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It's Boxing Day,

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and it's a very beautiful day today…

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in sunny California.

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-Hello, Nancy. Happy Boxing Day.
-Hi, sweetie.

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Oh, someone's at the door.

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Oh, it's Tom!

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-Hey, Merry Christmas!
-Oh God! Merry Chri…

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Oh, mistletoe.

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-Oh, where?
-Right here.

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How many Christmases would this be?
'72, '92. Twenty years.

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-Oh.
-Whoa!

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-Too bright?
-Not for your wrinkles.

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Then there's Dave Thomas
and Harrison Thomas.

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He's plugging his ears. Why?

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Could it be you?

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Oh, I loved you in Home Alone!

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You were wonderful!

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Steve, how do you do?

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I'm really having fun here, Marty.
I mean that.

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I'll tell you something about Marty.

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Let's say you're gonna host
a dinner party,

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and you invite Marty.

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And then it turns out Marty can't come.

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You cancel the party.

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Look at… Look at Marty!

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It's gonna be one of those
hatchet awful things that I won't promote.

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It is hilarious that we have to pretend
we don't know each other.

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Not at all.

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-This is based on us knowing each other.
-It is.

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You and I have talked--

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Larry and I,
we have had one million dinners.

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-One million lunches.
-That's right.

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One million passionate lunches.

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This is continuing the conversation.

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That's right.

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In my business,
there's a traditional career path.

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TV, movies,

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then Broadway, your own special,

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reality show host, Chabad telethon,
dinner theater, The Palm Springs Follies,

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and then this show.

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There was no expectation to be a star.

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There was no,

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"Mama, it's happened!"

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There was none of that.

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It's just, "There's a mortgage."

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"There are kids."

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"I'm in the greatest profession
in the world. I'm so damn lucky."

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"How do I keep it going?"

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Why am I holding this knife?

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I work in comedy.

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And I do a particular kind of comedy.

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-Here comes Uncle Jack. Shoot me!
-Agh!

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It's sketch-oriented, character-oriented.

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Not many jokes.

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If you were to read a script
that I've written,

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there's not many jokes in it.

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It's all… You just have to trust me.

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Master Bonks, I do this for a loving,
you know? Trust me.

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Where I like my career the least is
when I feel like I'm doing something

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that 200 other actors could do.

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That's where I feel I'm wasting my time.

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When I'm doing my… my unusual little art,

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and it may not be good art,
but it's art because it's specific,

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then I'm very happy.

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Let the party begin!

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The characters he has played,

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they're not just parodies of a type.

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It's actually quite hard to make
a completely bizarre character real.

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That's what he does.

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And this is a book about what?

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It's… it's… it's a love letter,
really, I suppose,

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with a… with a dash of hatred,
in an almost mocha kind of swirl,

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if you'll have it.

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It's like seeing
your best friend in the world,

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who happens to be
the weirdest person ever.

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-How's that character coming?
-Oh, the Mad Hatter is coming fine.

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I don't know.
I haven't figured him out yet.

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It might be low and English.

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Hello. Any more strawberries
down there, Dormy?

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Any spoilt sandwiches?
I do love spoilt sandwiches, don't you?

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-Might be that.
-I like the lisp.

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Yes, okay. I overslept! Slept!

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-You… you over what?
-Slept!

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I like that.

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Have you any more food down there, Dormy?

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Any spoilt sandwiches or strawberries?

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I love strawberries, don't you?

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You don't realize how much energy it takes

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to do what he does.

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Won't you stay a while?

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He hasn't exhausted himself
by second-guessing a decision,

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by being frightened
that he made the wrong decision.

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You know how many hours in the day
you'd have if you didn't have that?

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I'd have 23 more hours.

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Hallo! Who are you?

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Get away!

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I don't like what you say

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Now…

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Oh my God, that's horrible.
Not the eyebrow work. That's fantastic.

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Ron-Ron, run up to yourself.

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I don't think
you should start that story with…

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If it makes you feel better,
you can also be my, uh, Life Alert

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in case I fall,

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and we can have colonoscopies together.

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Hello. How are you?

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I didn't notice there was a camera on me.

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This is so weird.

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I'm not used to being photographed.
I'm kind of shy.

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-Good morning, sir.
-Good morning!

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I would say my career
has been 80% failure,

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and I think those are pretty good odds.

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Show business is talent,
luck, and endurance.

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But you can have talent,
you can have tenacity,

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you can take the hits,

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but if you don't have the confidence
to get up there and fail,

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then you can't do it.

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I'm gonna go down to the set.

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-Hey!
-Hey!

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-Can I come with you to the funeral?
-Yeah!

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Please, God, yes. We… we need you.

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You're the glue. You're the Mabel
in the Charles/Oliver sandwich.

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Without you, we're two pieces
of stale white bread.

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Exactly. Come on.

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We have that scene,
but we know that scene.

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Yeah.

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I'm starting to feel very comfortable now

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with the lines for the rest of the season.

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I'm gonna get dressed.

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-See ya.
-Bye.

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You let them in.

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Hey, there's Ron Howard.

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Oh boy.

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Now the fun begins.

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So… so let me…
let me ask some incisive questions.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Like, why? Why do you continue
to push yourself?

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Well, I don't know. I think
I just love the sound of applause.

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-I have a different question.
-Yeah.

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Why do you continue?

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I just think it's important,
um, if you're "gifted…"

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-…to share that gift…
-Of course.

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…with… with people,
I don't know, like you.

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And we're grateful.

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-I know you are.
-Forever grateful.

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Have you ever thought… What have you done?

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Yes, it's Whitton Road.

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I wonder who that lady is.

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That was my bedroom.

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It's false for me to say
that comedy came from some space of pain.

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It's the opposite.

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It came from my whole life.
People were funny in my family.

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You know, I was this youngest of five.

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There was five years
between the fourth and the fifth.

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And I think I got so much attention
and so much love,

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and everyone told me
I was so great, and so funny,

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and so fabulous my whole life

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that I just boomed
into my, uh, uh, teen years

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without any kind of concern
that I, you know…

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I could look like, uh, Bill Schlechman

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with pimples and hairdo
and, "Hi, lady," and go up,

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and somehow, if she didn't ask me,
if she didn't say she'd go out with me,

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I'd say, "What's her problem?"

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And believe it.

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I profited from trickle-down comedy.

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My brother Michael
is a multi-Emmy, Golden Globe winner

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from everything from SCTV
to MADtv to Schitt's Creek.

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The thing that was really encouraged
was to make everyone laugh.

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-That was always encouraged in our family.
-Right.

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If you could make someone laugh,
even if you hurt a couple of people--

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Along the way.

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My father was general sales
manager of the Steel Company of Canada,

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very high position.

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Really funny, very sarcastic,

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slight Irish accent, came over at 21.

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"Hello, Marty."

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He was a bit of a handful,
you would agree.

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Mm-hmm.

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He would have occasional gin.

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-Yeah.
-Occasional subbing for the word constant.

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He would be snarky,
but it was all meant in… to be funny.

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Marty, my son,

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who has no possible chance in hell
to ever develop into a singing voice.

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But… but… but the point is
that he is interested.

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And the person that has
a distinctive voice

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is the one that's remembered.

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Marty was, uh, uh, tremendously talented.

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He started doing comedy
when he was, like, five.

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He was doing jokes, and doing bits,
and singing all the time.

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You did shows in the attic, literally,
did you not?

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I used to do the Martin Short Show.

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We were on at, uh, Tuesday at 8:30
opposite Andy Williams.

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In my mind. I would, uh, type up things.

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"Marty will sing… Marty's guests will be…"

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I would perform,
and I'd be killing upstairs,

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someone would call "dinner,"
and we'd stop and tape later.

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Yeah! Thank you, darling.

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Broadway, Broadway, Broadway

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Kids are playing road hockey,
and I'm up in my attic.

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-Weather-wise, such a cuckoo day
-Yeah.

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People are protesting the Vietnam War,
and he's doing Sinatra.

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Tell you about Broadway

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What Marty does now,
he was doing back then.

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Please welcome
the 100-million-dollar man himself,

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my best friend, Eugene Levy.

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Eugene Leevy.

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-Levy.
-Whatever. Please sit.

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Look at them over there.

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You'd think
they'd known each other for years.

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Truthfully, he's my oldest
and dearest friend.

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We were roommates together for a while.

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We dated for a period of time,
but the point is--

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Yeah.

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You're Canadian. Has that been a burden?

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No. No, it has not been a burden.

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You understand everything I'm saying?
I don't need to speak slower?

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We have the same language.

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Where do Canadians go
when they need to get away?

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Do they just go to the border
and look and peer and wish?

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Marty is my best friend.

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-Is your best friend?
-Yes.

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I met Marty in 1970 at McMaster University

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when we were in school together.

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It looks like he's an actor

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trying desperately hard
to get dramatic work.

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Yeah, he does.

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Well, I started out in pre-med,
and I switched to social work

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because I felt that would be easier.

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In high school, I never did any theater.

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It wasn't till I switched to social work
that I had time and I got more involved.

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And I'm doing everything
that I can theatrically.

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It still did not seem realistic
to be an actor.

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Eugene Levy was the one who said,

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"You should try to do this professionally.
Come to Toronto."

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So I literally gave myself
a one-year contract.

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I thought, "I'll give it a year,

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and if nothing happens,

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then I can apply
and go back to university."

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Post-graduate work?

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No, high school.

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I'm having some degree of difficulty
getting through high school.

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-I see. Well, good to have you--
-But I'll do it.

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I'm sure you will.

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Because I have certain goals in life
I feel compelled to complete.

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Very good.

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One of which is becoming
a circuit court judge.

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00:13:05,534 --> 00:13:06,869
Good. Good to have ambition.

249
00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:10,122
I don't think you're ever aware
that you're in a particular group

250
00:13:10,206 --> 00:13:11,582
or a particular time.

251
00:13:11,665 --> 00:13:13,834
Toronto certainly had a creative boom.

252
00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:19,673
Is this coincidental, or is there
some Canadian comedic sensibility

253
00:13:19,757 --> 00:13:22,593
that particularly appeals?

254
00:13:22,676 --> 00:13:27,681
Well, I do think that Canada, uh,
Toronto particularly, it's, uh, at a hub.

255
00:13:27,765 --> 00:13:31,060
You know, we would get the Pythons
before the States got the Pythons.

256
00:13:31,894 --> 00:13:33,938
Eugene Levy and I shared a house,

257
00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:36,482
1063 Avenue Road in Toronto.

258
00:13:36,565 --> 00:13:38,692
And this house had more parties.

259
00:13:39,318 --> 00:13:41,737
Paul Shaffer would get up
and play the piano,

260
00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:43,239
and people would sing,

261
00:13:43,322 --> 00:13:46,951
and everyone kind of dated each other,
and partied with each other,

262
00:13:47,034 --> 00:13:48,452
and worked with each other.

263
00:13:48,536 --> 00:13:52,498
It was really kind of fantastic,
when you think of it.

264
00:13:52,581 --> 00:13:54,250
We all were performers,

265
00:13:54,333 --> 00:13:57,044
and we all loved to laugh.

266
00:13:58,045 --> 00:14:00,965
There was a lot of enthusiasm and fun,

267
00:14:01,048 --> 00:14:05,052
and a great love of performing.

268
00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,931
At the Catskills in these summer resorts,

269
00:14:09,014 --> 00:14:10,641
there was a guy called the tummler.

270
00:14:10,724 --> 00:14:13,227
In Yiddish, that means
a guy who causes a tumult,

271
00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:15,020
gets action going.

272
00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:18,440
I don't think Marty was in the Catskills,
but he sure is, you know…

273
00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:21,151
He is the tummler of… of our dreams.

274
00:14:22,486 --> 00:14:27,074
Everything was there with Marty.
His voice was there. His comedy was there.

275
00:14:27,658 --> 00:14:29,785
I said, "There's a show opening,
Godspell."

276
00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:33,205
"You should come in and audition for it
'cause it's a big musical."

277
00:14:34,248 --> 00:14:35,791
We went to the callback together,

278
00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:38,878
and that's where I introduced
Marty to Andrea.

279
00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:42,631
Godspell was looking for people
that weren't acting.

280
00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:46,594
That were just
genuinely, um, effervescent,

281
00:14:46,677 --> 00:14:49,263
uh, comedic, uh, warm.

282
00:14:50,097 --> 00:14:52,850
-Day by day
-Day by day

283
00:14:52,933 --> 00:14:53,934
Day by day

284
00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:56,228
Gilda Radner,
it was the first time she'd worked,

285
00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:59,231
and Andrea Martin and Eugene Levy
and Victor Garber

286
00:14:59,315 --> 00:15:01,191
and Jayne Eastwood and a lot of--

287
00:15:01,275 --> 00:15:04,028
-An amazing cast.
-Yeah. Paul Shaffer was the piano player.

288
00:15:04,111 --> 00:15:06,822
Right, right. You dated, uh, Gilda.

289
00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:10,117
Yes, I did. Everyone fell in love
with Gilda. She was adorable.

290
00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,787
She was so funny,
and she was just so self-deprecating.

291
00:15:13,871 --> 00:15:17,833
First day, she came up to me and went,
"Hi, my name's Gilda. Nice to see you."

292
00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,753
She had a pimple here,
and she kept holding it and talking to me.

293
00:15:21,378 --> 00:15:23,172
-Everyone fell in love with Gilda.
-Yeah.

294
00:15:23,255 --> 00:15:25,007
It's a safe thing to say.

295
00:15:25,966 --> 00:15:28,344
You later fell in love with her understudy
and married her.

296
00:15:28,427 --> 00:15:31,764
Yes, I… Uh, Nancy Dolman,
who was, uh, Gilda's understudy.

297
00:15:31,847 --> 00:15:33,349
That's true. In Godspell.

298
00:15:33,432 --> 00:15:35,976
Apparently, you had decided,
"Anyone who plays that part,

299
00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:38,228
I'm gonna get involved with." Uh, is that…

300
00:15:38,312 --> 00:15:40,648
That was… Yes, that was my decision.

301
00:15:44,401 --> 00:15:48,030
When I came into Godspell,
I was auditioning as understudy.

302
00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:53,369
I came in. It was very difficult for me
because the group was already set.

303
00:15:53,452 --> 00:15:54,912
They were all best friends.

304
00:15:54,995 --> 00:15:58,749
And there was Gilda,
and she was just so spectacular.

305
00:15:58,832 --> 00:16:00,876
And Andrea Martin, who I was in awe of.

306
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,419
All these… You know, Marty…

307
00:16:02,503 --> 00:16:05,714
Marty, I wasn't that keen on
at first, actually.

308
00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:09,343
You turn me on, I'm a radio…

309
00:16:09,426 --> 00:16:10,678
And Nancy was

310
00:16:11,762 --> 00:16:13,639
drop-dead beautiful. It was insane.

311
00:16:13,722 --> 00:16:18,435
I'm a wildwood flower, waving for you…

312
00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:20,521
And she owned an antique clothing store.

313
00:16:21,355 --> 00:16:24,858
She had smuggled clothes in from Detroit
through the border.

314
00:16:24,942 --> 00:16:27,820
And it was the era…
You know, that Joni Mitchell…

315
00:16:27,903 --> 00:16:31,156
And she had a Joni Mitchell look.
It was long, blonde hair.

316
00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,534
When you're loving and kind

317
00:16:33,617 --> 00:16:37,621
And she'd come in with a velvet cape
and sign in, "Hi."

318
00:16:38,122 --> 00:16:39,498
And the guys'd go,

319
00:16:40,290 --> 00:16:43,961
"Yeah, okay then." But it didn't bother me
'cause I was with Gilda.

320
00:16:45,754 --> 00:16:48,841
We'd broken up a few times,
and we'd now had a fight.

321
00:16:48,924 --> 00:16:50,259
We'd broken up again.

322
00:16:50,342 --> 00:16:53,012
And I go to The Pilot bar,

323
00:16:53,095 --> 00:16:54,680
and there's Nancy Dolman.

324
00:16:55,514 --> 00:16:58,559
She was funny and had edge.

325
00:16:58,642 --> 00:16:59,810
And we got talking.

326
00:16:59,893 --> 00:17:02,604
She'd just broken up with her boyfriend,
but that wasn't…

327
00:17:02,688 --> 00:17:05,107
I just, "Oh.
Yeah, I just broke up with Gilda."

328
00:17:06,817 --> 00:17:10,571
I was doing a play, and Nancy came.
It was the summer.

329
00:17:10,654 --> 00:17:13,449
And she was wearing short shorts
and a halter top.

330
00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:16,410
And I was wearing
short shorts and a T-shirt.

331
00:17:16,493 --> 00:17:18,662
And we went to the Four Seasons Hotel.

332
00:17:18,746 --> 00:17:22,541
And I said to the guy,
"My wife and I would like a room, please."

333
00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:27,087
And even he started laughing
because we looked about 12.

334
00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:31,050
And that was it. That was it.

335
00:17:32,676 --> 00:17:35,387
From this moment on

336
00:17:35,471 --> 00:17:37,222
-What?
-Hi, this is my wife, Nancy.

337
00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:50,444
Beauteous Duchess.

338
00:17:51,987 --> 00:17:55,324
Who is presently listening
to the cast album of The Goodbye Girl.

339
00:17:56,867 --> 00:17:59,411
Is that Nancy, or is that Bo Derek?

340
00:18:00,412 --> 00:18:02,289
I'm listening to your song.

341
00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:05,751
So perverse

342
00:18:06,543 --> 00:18:08,253
Better call a nurse

343
00:18:08,337 --> 00:18:09,713
Marty and Nancy.

344
00:18:09,797 --> 00:18:11,673
Yeah, what a team, eh?

345
00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:14,051
I keep saying they're an amazing team,
but they really were.

346
00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:18,097
He's very outer child.

347
00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:20,057
And… And she was very outer adult.

348
00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:21,100
Oh my…

349
00:18:24,394 --> 00:18:27,064
My husband and I went through
a rough patch in our marriage.

350
00:18:27,147 --> 00:18:29,983
We went to therapy,
and one of the questions she asked is,

351
00:18:30,067 --> 00:18:32,486
"Do you have friends,
do you know a couple,

352
00:18:32,569 --> 00:18:36,115
whose relationship you would love to have,
or you'd love to emulate?"

353
00:18:36,198 --> 00:18:38,909
We said, "Oh, we have these friends,
Marty and Nancy."

354
00:18:38,992 --> 00:18:40,119
And she said,

355
00:18:40,744 --> 00:18:43,288
"I can't tell you
how many people have named them…"

356
00:18:44,414 --> 00:18:45,958
"…when I've asked this question."

357
00:18:47,751 --> 00:18:49,002
Hi, sweetie.

358
00:18:50,879 --> 00:18:53,966
-My darling, how are you?
-I'm fine, darling. How are you?

359
00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:56,176
Are we having a romantic time together?

360
00:18:56,260 --> 00:18:57,886
Yes, we are.

361
00:18:58,387 --> 00:18:59,888
After all these years.

362
00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:01,557
We really are, you know.

363
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,350
This is slightly relevant.

364
00:19:03,433 --> 00:19:04,601
It's about time.

365
00:19:06,061 --> 00:19:09,106
Tell me what led to the break
that changed your life.

366
00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:11,733
The thing about
Canadian entertainment then,

367
00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:13,277
it was you got to do everything.

368
00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:17,656
It was like being at
a consistent university of show business.

369
00:19:17,739 --> 00:19:20,784
So in Canada, you could do
Shakespeare and radio,

370
00:19:20,868 --> 00:19:22,536
and you might do a voice commercial.

371
00:19:23,036 --> 00:19:25,122
On sale for just $39.95.

372
00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:27,749
And then you'd do your cabaret show.

373
00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:32,629
I'll never love again

374
00:19:32,713 --> 00:19:36,091
I'm so in love with you

375
00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:38,677
In the summer of 1973,

376
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,139
Second City, the legendary
improvisational group from Chicago,

377
00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:44,766
formed its first sister company
in Toronto.

378
00:19:46,935 --> 00:19:50,397
Gilda Radner worked there.
Dan Aykroyd worked there.

379
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,275
It was kind of the… the cool place
where you'd meet.

380
00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:56,195
Everyone auditioned for it,
and everyone got in.

381
00:19:56,278 --> 00:20:00,032
Andrea and Catherine and Joe
and Eugene and Dave and John Candy.

382
00:20:00,657 --> 00:20:01,909
I did not audition.

383
00:20:02,951 --> 00:20:06,205
I didn't like the idea
of being funny on demand

384
00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:08,081
'cause I was basically afraid of it.

385
00:20:08,165 --> 00:20:09,208
I wanted to be Sinatra.

386
00:20:09,291 --> 00:20:11,418
I wanted to be a singer.
I wanted to be an actor.

387
00:20:11,501 --> 00:20:13,462
I've got to be

388
00:20:13,545 --> 00:20:16,506
Where my spirit can run free…

389
00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:21,720
But I was now starting to feel
like I'm behind everyone.

390
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,681
I have limited myself,

391
00:20:24,765 --> 00:20:27,935
and I'm going in a kind of circle.

392
00:20:28,018 --> 00:20:30,020
I don't feel momentum.

393
00:20:31,355 --> 00:20:38,362
Of the sky

394
00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:42,199
I remember going down
to the subway in Toronto.

395
00:20:42,282 --> 00:20:44,993
Every time I went down there,
the subway was leaving.

396
00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:47,663
I would run toward the subway.

397
00:20:47,746 --> 00:20:50,582
I'd walk really slow. It was leaving.

398
00:20:50,666 --> 00:20:53,961
And I thought, when the subway's
pulling in, my luck will change.

399
00:20:54,044 --> 00:20:56,880
But right now, the subway is pulling away.

400
00:20:59,132 --> 00:21:02,719
Nancy had a record deal in LA,
so I was gonna join her.

401
00:21:02,803 --> 00:21:05,305
Now, Miss Nancy Dolman.

402
00:21:06,974 --> 00:21:08,475
This is it

403
00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:11,436
This time I know it's the real thing

404
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:16,441
And she really broke through
and was on national television prime time,

405
00:21:16,525 --> 00:21:17,609
even before Marty.

406
00:21:18,777 --> 00:21:20,696
She was the whole package.

407
00:21:21,613 --> 00:21:25,742
A beautiful voice,
perfect pitch with perfect diction,

408
00:21:25,826 --> 00:21:29,830
looks like a movie star,
and the nicest person.

409
00:21:35,961 --> 00:21:38,380
There's a moment I call Breakdown Corner.

410
00:21:38,463 --> 00:21:42,134
Paul Shaffer and Bill Murray
were staying in LA.

411
00:21:42,217 --> 00:21:45,429
Did he scare you
As much as he scared me?

412
00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:49,182
At that time,
Bill Murray had already been a big hit

413
00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,643
and just started on SNL that year.

414
00:21:51,727 --> 00:21:53,562
…my seventh winter up here!

415
00:21:53,645 --> 00:21:57,316
Star Wars

416
00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:02,321
And Paul said, "Bill and I are
going to dinner, so you and Nancy join us,

417
00:22:02,404 --> 00:22:04,865
and we'll swing at my place,
the Sunset Marquis."

418
00:22:04,948 --> 00:22:07,617
And Nancy and I are walking there.

419
00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:10,579
And I just was overwhelmed with,

420
00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:13,373
"I can't. I can't do it.
I can't do it. I can't."

421
00:22:13,457 --> 00:22:16,251
I'm out of work now.
Hadn't worked for a couple of months,

422
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:19,379
had no prospects, and didn't really know
where I was going.

423
00:22:19,463 --> 00:22:23,759
And I said, "I can't go
and pretend to be happy for Bill

424
00:22:25,385 --> 00:22:27,179
because I don't know what I'm doing."

425
00:22:27,971 --> 00:22:29,639
"I need to sit down."

426
00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:32,017
Son,

427
00:22:33,852 --> 00:22:36,480
why are you sitting here all alone?

428
00:22:36,563 --> 00:22:40,609
Why aren't you outside
having fun and joining in?

429
00:22:41,485 --> 00:22:43,695
-Well, I just don't feel like it, sir.
-Ah.

430
00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:47,032
I guess I'm kind of down in the dumps.

431
00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:49,451
We sat there for about ten minutes
and didn't speak.

432
00:22:49,534 --> 00:22:50,786
Finally, Nancy said,

433
00:22:51,286 --> 00:22:53,413
"How long are we going to stay here?"

434
00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:56,541
I said, "I don't know."

435
00:22:57,709 --> 00:22:59,503
So we went back to the apartment,

436
00:23:00,128 --> 00:23:01,755
and I woke up in a funk.

437
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,511
And then we saw War Babies,
who were an improvisational group.

438
00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:11,014
I was… It was so funny.
It was so fresh. It was inspiring.

439
00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:13,934
I felt inspired just witnessing it.

440
00:23:14,726 --> 00:23:17,771
It was like a…
The… the light bulbs went off.

441
00:23:17,854 --> 00:23:19,606
"Of course this is
what I should be doing."

442
00:23:19,689 --> 00:23:22,651
I phoned Andrew Alexander
the next morning and said,

443
00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:24,528
"I wanna go into Second City."

444
00:23:24,611 --> 00:23:27,114
He said, "All right."

445
00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:34,413
Marty Short was so strong, like,
immediately when he came in the cast.

446
00:23:34,496 --> 00:23:36,540
Most people… When he joined the cast.

447
00:23:36,623 --> 00:23:40,085
Most people would come in
and sort of try to find their place.

448
00:23:40,585 --> 00:23:44,172
When you come in in the middle of the
show, coming into someone else's roles,

449
00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:48,051
most people would basically try to imitate
the person whose roles they're doing.

450
00:23:48,135 --> 00:23:52,514
He just immediately put his own
ridiculously strong characters

451
00:23:52,597 --> 00:23:54,683
into these scenes and, like, just…

452
00:23:55,684 --> 00:23:58,562
Just such great self-confidence,
and so funny.

453
00:23:59,563 --> 00:24:04,151
I always figured if you walked
on stage and you look totally insane,

454
00:24:04,234 --> 00:24:05,360
you'd get a laugh.

455
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,195
And then you were halfway there.

456
00:24:07,988 --> 00:24:12,159
All these characters, I think,
come from people you know,

457
00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:13,952
or combinations of people you know.

458
00:24:14,035 --> 00:24:16,955
And it's kind of good that they do,
because that creates…

459
00:24:17,038 --> 00:24:19,124
even though there might be
absurdist characters,

460
00:24:19,207 --> 00:24:21,084
it creates a three dimension to them.

461
00:24:21,168 --> 00:24:22,961
Just the thought of it makes my heart beat

462
00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:26,089
like a distant little jungle drum,
I must say.

463
00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:30,051
I'll do Grimley,
but I'm not sure if they want me to.

464
00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:31,219
No, they would…

465
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:39,769
Oh my goodness.

466
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:42,647
Oh, give me a break!

467
00:24:42,731 --> 00:24:46,067
I couldn't be more excited being
on the David Letterman show, I must say.

468
00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:51,156
There was a scene about
a man and a woman applying for a job.

469
00:24:51,239 --> 00:24:54,242
And the woman
is beyond experienced and educated.

470
00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:57,496
And the… the guy
is the biggest dumbass in the world.

471
00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:00,332
-Now, Barbara, maybe you'd like to begin.
-All right.

472
00:25:00,415 --> 00:25:03,335
Why don't you tell me
about your educational background?

473
00:25:03,418 --> 00:25:07,589
Uh, well, I have my bachelor degree
in mathematics from Columbia University.

474
00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:12,385
And I have my master's
in business administration from Stanford.

475
00:25:12,469 --> 00:25:15,972
Oh. Um, now, Ed,
how about your work experience?

476
00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:18,808
F… for the past several years,

477
00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:21,478
I've been employed
by the Union Oil Company.

478
00:25:21,561 --> 00:25:23,980
Really? Uh, in what capacity, Ed?

479
00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:27,359
I work at Al 76 at the corner
of Cahuenga and Melrose, you know?

480
00:25:28,276 --> 00:25:29,819
He'd done it in the improvs,

481
00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:32,447
but it was the first time
he put Ed in a scene.

482
00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:34,866
And he just blew the scene apart.

483
00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:37,410
In a good way. In the best way.

484
00:25:37,911 --> 00:25:39,788
Made it just ridiculously funny.

485
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:41,706
It allowed me to play too.

486
00:25:41,790 --> 00:25:45,794
Like, this is insane
that I'm losing to this guy.

487
00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:50,757
Ed Grimley always wore the same shirt.

488
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,676
It was my shirt from 11th grade.

489
00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:57,430
I knew a guy in high school
who always talked…

490
00:25:57,514 --> 00:25:59,391
He wanted to be a photographer.

491
00:25:59,474 --> 00:26:01,101
He was going to, um…

492
00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:03,436
He was always taking slides.

493
00:26:03,937 --> 00:26:08,984
And, um, uh, often,
he wouldn't always develop them

494
00:26:09,067 --> 00:26:12,070
because he knew what they looked like
'cause he'd taken them.

495
00:26:13,113 --> 00:26:16,575
I got a brother-in-law, Ralph.
And Ralph talks like this.

496
00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:19,452
"Hey, babe, how are you doing?
Get you a drink?"

497
00:26:19,536 --> 00:26:22,622
So I kind of combined, uh, the voices.

498
00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:25,083
Next, I was talking like this, I must say.

499
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:28,128
Peter Aykroyd said, "Marty…"
I greased my hair a little bit.

500
00:26:28,795 --> 00:26:32,299
He said, "Boy, that hair
is standing taller every performance."

501
00:26:32,382 --> 00:26:35,594
So as a joke to make him laugh,
I put it in a point.

502
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:38,847
And one night, I just did this.

503
00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:41,016
And the audience laughs.

504
00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:43,852
What if someone asks you
to play your triangle at the reception?

505
00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:46,479
It could happen.
I'd best practice in preparation.

506
00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:55,739
Ed is always fascinated by life.

507
00:26:55,822 --> 00:26:58,742
That's very seductive
because it's a great quality.

508
00:27:02,370 --> 00:27:05,540
I remember him doing,
and still doing, that dance,

509
00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:07,917
the Ed Grimley dance,
from when I first met him.

510
00:27:08,668 --> 00:27:11,796
That show was a revelation,
doing Second City,

511
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,467
because I now, for the first time,
was creating characters.

512
00:27:17,218 --> 00:27:18,178
So…

513
00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:26,061
I thought, "If I look, I'm gonna laugh."
So I looked just slightly off of his face.

514
00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:29,064
Then he would do this,
trying to get into my eyeline.

515
00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:35,654
And am I madly in love with Catherine?
Yes, and always have been.

516
00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:37,113
But every guy was.

517
00:27:37,197 --> 00:27:38,657
-No. I love Marty.
-It's true.

518
00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:40,867
When someone makes you laugh,
that's the sexiest thing.

519
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:43,119
-Absolutely.
-You're all making each other laugh.

520
00:27:43,203 --> 00:27:46,748
You think, "We're laughing.
We are so connected. We gotta try dating."

521
00:27:46,831 --> 00:27:49,626
-Yeah, didn't everybody love each other?
-Yeah, absolutely.

522
00:27:50,126 --> 00:27:52,712
I used to be able to,
in the Godspell picture, go,

523
00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:54,547
Day by day

524
00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:57,092
Day by day

525
00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:58,468
-Oh dear Lord
-No!

526
00:27:58,551 --> 00:28:00,553
-Oh yeah.
-Wait, but you did all those women?

527
00:28:00,637 --> 00:28:01,471
No, I didn't do all those--

528
00:28:01,554 --> 00:28:03,139
I was just saying
everyone who had done each other.

529
00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:10,563
I just left Second City. I just left
two weeks ago after being there…

530
00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:12,565
…for two years.

531
00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:15,610
I mean, it really is true
that it's the best place

532
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:17,404
to learn a great deal of information.

533
00:28:17,487 --> 00:28:20,365
Then, once you learn it,
you have to do something with it.

534
00:28:20,448 --> 00:28:23,076
You just can't stay there.
So that's why I moved on.

535
00:28:23,159 --> 00:28:25,036
And since then, I… I've… I've

536
00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:27,664
done really nothing with it, but I… I'm…

537
00:28:27,747 --> 00:28:29,874
I would do guest spots on Taxi,

538
00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:31,793
but it was getting a little sparse.

539
00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:35,213
Hi, do you remember me?
I'm the guy in television.

540
00:28:35,296 --> 00:28:38,925
Then I got a call. Would I join SCTV?

541
00:28:40,427 --> 00:28:44,097
We interrupt this program
to bring a special SCTV News announcement.

542
00:28:44,180 --> 00:28:46,349
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm Guy Caballero.

543
00:28:46,433 --> 00:28:48,268
Owner and president of SCTV.

544
00:28:48,351 --> 00:28:50,478
And this is my station manager,
Edith Prickley.

545
00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:51,771
Hello, how's it hanging?

546
00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:55,859
And the consensus at the CBC
is it's going to be gangbusters.

547
00:28:55,942 --> 00:28:57,777
Well, how couldn't it be?
It'd have to be, wouldn't it?

548
00:28:57,861 --> 00:29:01,072
It was on fire with creativity.

549
00:29:01,156 --> 00:29:04,284
I don't know what the ratings were,
but from a critical standpoint,

550
00:29:04,367 --> 00:29:06,703
and if you were in comedy
and show business,

551
00:29:06,786 --> 00:29:08,997
the perception of it
couldn't have been higher.

552
00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:12,459
How do you parody Canadian television,

553
00:29:12,542 --> 00:29:16,087
make it at all interesting to Americans,

554
00:29:16,171 --> 00:29:18,298
who don't know what you're parodying?

555
00:29:22,177 --> 00:29:23,970
Tell me about when Marty entered.

556
00:29:24,053 --> 00:29:26,473
Do we have to?
We're… we're on such a roll.

557
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:32,771
Marty came in with, of course,
this energy that became infectious.

558
00:29:33,938 --> 00:29:36,274
But at a certain point,
we started to despise the energy.

559
00:29:36,357 --> 00:29:37,609
-We did.
-Enough's enough.

560
00:29:37,692 --> 00:29:40,570
The crowd
is literally buzzing with excitement

561
00:29:40,653 --> 00:29:42,947
as Mr. Rodgers enters the ring.

562
00:29:43,031 --> 00:29:44,449
Oh, look out there, Fred.

563
00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:48,661
Rodgers is chasing her around the ring.

564
00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:50,079
She's running in terror.

565
00:29:50,163 --> 00:29:54,709
Coq au vin or no coq au vin,
this woman is in trouble.

566
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,003
Ladies and gentlemen, the Queen Haters.

567
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:06,846
It was thrilling to be in it,
but it was also a little daunting

568
00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:08,598
because I knew everyone in the cast.

569
00:30:08,681 --> 00:30:10,850
Andrea Martin was my sister-in-law.

570
00:30:11,392 --> 00:30:13,603
Boy, are you stupid!

571
00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:16,272
I like that in a man.

572
00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,858
My brother Michael was one of the writers.

573
00:30:24,322 --> 00:30:25,740
I knew these people,

574
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:29,035
so their accomplishments so far
made it daunting.

575
00:30:31,371 --> 00:30:35,083
Your play is deemed by critics
unadulterated trash.

576
00:30:35,875 --> 00:30:38,169
But now, less than two years later,

577
00:30:38,253 --> 00:30:41,464
the lady has bounced back
with courage and chutzpah

578
00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:43,883
to direct herself in her own film.

579
00:30:43,967 --> 00:30:46,803
What intrigues me is one word.

580
00:30:47,303 --> 00:30:48,388
Motive.

581
00:30:49,138 --> 00:30:50,932
You really struck a nerve, Brock.

582
00:30:52,475 --> 00:30:55,019
What SCTV was doing
was creating characters.

583
00:30:55,603 --> 00:30:58,773
And everyone's instinct
from Second City training

584
00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:01,276
was to give it kind of a three dimension.

585
00:31:01,985 --> 00:31:05,446
Even if it was
an abstract, broad character,

586
00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:07,615
it still was grounded
in some kind of truth.

587
00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:09,117
What have you been up to?

588
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,538
You know, just playing around, babe.
Trying to get things happening.

589
00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:15,999
Everybody, smiles tonight now.

590
00:31:16,082 --> 00:31:18,084
Hollywood party!

591
00:31:18,167 --> 00:31:19,502
Everybody's…

592
00:31:19,586 --> 00:31:22,922
And suddenly,
your whole world was just these people.

593
00:31:23,006 --> 00:31:25,091
The demon dad of Fleet Street.

594
00:31:25,174 --> 00:31:26,843
Doo, du-doo-loo, du-doo-du-doo

595
00:31:26,926 --> 00:31:28,678
Don't come near me

596
00:31:28,761 --> 00:31:30,430
Doo-loo, du-doo-loo, du-doo

597
00:31:30,513 --> 00:31:32,223
I'll cut you up and eat you

598
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:34,475
-Are these talkies or…
-These are talkies.

599
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:37,729
-Are these still… JVC still photos?
-No, they aren't.

600
00:31:37,812 --> 00:31:39,230
-Impressive unit.
-Thank you.

601
00:31:39,314 --> 00:31:42,525
It's the McKenzies!
They're together. I just panned back.

602
00:31:42,609 --> 00:31:44,777
We can't be together
unless the price is right.

603
00:31:44,861 --> 00:31:45,820
Sorry. You gotta be…

604
00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:48,239
Now, SCTV was a massive hit.

605
00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:50,658
And we won an Emmy for writing.

606
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:52,243
It was fantastic.

607
00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:55,997
Quickly, our careers became our families.

608
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,293
And, uh… And that's actually
a literal, uh, truth.

609
00:32:02,962 --> 00:32:06,883
Nancy and I got married
on the 22nd of December in Toronto.

610
00:32:06,966 --> 00:32:07,967
And then five days later,

611
00:32:08,051 --> 00:32:11,304
Andrea got married
to Nancy's brother, Bob.

612
00:32:14,515 --> 00:32:18,561
The great strength of that group
was that they were friends and close,

613
00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,146
and some of them related.

614
00:32:21,814 --> 00:32:24,984
We spent every holiday together.

615
00:32:25,485 --> 00:32:28,363
There was just a hub of activity,
and nobody was thinking,

616
00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:31,240
"Am I gonna make it? Is he gonna make it?
Is that person going to get it?"

617
00:32:31,324 --> 00:32:33,534
I don't ever remember any of that.

618
00:32:36,162 --> 00:32:38,998
Am I getting paid for this?
I'm a pay-or-play.

619
00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:42,961
Would you stop, please?

620
00:32:43,044 --> 00:32:46,422
It's quite a group of people, isn't it?
From Godspell and Second City.

621
00:32:46,506 --> 00:32:47,840
Hi, Harold.

622
00:32:47,924 --> 00:32:49,884
They're just being themselves.

623
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,804
Goofing off and talking,
like you are with friends.

624
00:32:55,223 --> 00:32:58,559
Nancy and I lived
on the same street growing up in Toronto.

625
00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:03,231
And I first heard of Nancy
through my brother and his goofy friends.

626
00:33:03,314 --> 00:33:06,901
They were goo-goo and ga-ga over her
because she was so beautiful.

627
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:10,863
We were very good friends before.

628
00:33:10,947 --> 00:33:14,659
But then, when I started dating Eugene,
we became family.

629
00:33:20,456 --> 00:33:22,250
Hi, honey. How you doing?

630
00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:24,085
-Is it on?
-Yes, it is.

631
00:33:24,627 --> 00:33:26,838
Well, we've had a wonderful morning.

632
00:33:26,921 --> 00:33:28,381
Some relationships

633
00:33:28,464 --> 00:33:31,676
just keep getting stronger
and stronger and stronger.

634
00:33:33,594 --> 00:33:36,597
We were stunned.
Suddenly, we couldn't get pregnant.

635
00:33:37,098 --> 00:33:38,141
That was…

636
00:33:39,225 --> 00:33:41,644
Th… that… We hadn't even considered that.

637
00:33:43,563 --> 00:33:46,190
And then we found out
that Nancy had endometriosis.

638
00:33:46,274 --> 00:33:49,360
So she had to go on drugs.
And your moods are heightened.

639
00:33:49,444 --> 00:33:53,322
So one night, she was cleaning.
I'd made a peanut butter and jam sandwich.

640
00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:55,408
"Look, when you clean the sandwich,

641
00:33:55,491 --> 00:33:58,536
you've got to wipe the peanut butter
off this counter."

642
00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:01,205
I said, "Okay,
you have to stop those drugs."

643
00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:02,957
"And we're gonna adopt a baby."

644
00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:05,209
"Can we?" You know.

645
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:08,254
And out the drugs went.
And we adopted Katherine.

646
00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:11,174
And then Oliver. And then Henry.

647
00:34:12,425 --> 00:34:15,887
Oh, my baby.
I just have to kiss my baby. One second.

648
00:34:17,722 --> 00:34:18,556
Dada.

649
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,475
Dada-da-da-da

650
00:34:20,558 --> 00:34:26,064
To see him as a father is so, uh, genuine,

651
00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:28,816
authentic to who he is.

652
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,861
My next-best girlfriend to my wife.

653
00:34:32,361 --> 00:34:36,324
It's as fluid and as genuine
as… as his breath.

654
00:34:36,407 --> 00:34:38,493
That's how much he loves being a dad.

655
00:34:40,495 --> 00:34:42,455
I never would have left SCTV.

656
00:34:42,997 --> 00:34:44,207
But it was canceled.

657
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,296
Then I got a call saying, "We'd like you
to join Saturday Night Live."

658
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,092
It's Saturday Night Live

659
00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,427
with Julia Louis-Dreyfus,

660
00:34:57,303 --> 00:34:59,263
Harry Shearer,

661
00:35:00,389 --> 00:35:02,266
Martin Short.

662
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:06,395
The first two pieces I worked on
were with Harry Shearer.

663
00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:18,199
Oh, it's… it's not gonna be easy.

664
00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:19,826
I don't swim.

665
00:35:19,909 --> 00:35:20,993
He doesn't swim.

666
00:35:21,077 --> 00:35:22,495
So, I mean, no, of course not.

667
00:35:22,578 --> 00:35:25,248
Nobody is just gonna walk up
and hand us a gold medal,

668
00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:29,460
especially since men's synchro
isn't even in the '88 Olympics yet.

669
00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:32,171
That's okay 'cause we could use the time.

670
00:35:33,005 --> 00:35:36,676
'Cause I'm… I'm not that strong a swimmer.

671
00:35:38,511 --> 00:35:42,557
The next piece we shot was Lifestyles
of the Relatives of the Rich and Famous.

672
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,643
…Central Park,
New York's tree-lined melting pot,

673
00:35:45,726 --> 00:35:46,936
sits the hot dog stand

674
00:35:47,019 --> 00:35:50,690
managed by Katharine Hepburn's
maternal third cousin, Nelson.

675
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:53,025
We caught up with him recently.

676
00:35:53,526 --> 00:35:56,237
We don't communicate at all. Never did.

677
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,447
I tried through letter,

678
00:35:58,531 --> 00:36:01,659
through phone call,
anonymous sometimes, and she'd hang up.

679
00:36:01,742 --> 00:36:04,162
One time, she stopped by here,

680
00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:06,873
and I said, "Kate, don't you know me?"

681
00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:10,543
She just looked at me,
and she said, "More mustard, please."

682
00:36:10,626 --> 00:36:12,253
And after the first show,

683
00:36:12,336 --> 00:36:14,088
my manager came up and said,

684
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:17,341
"Well, your stock just went up 3,000%."

685
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:24,098
It was an amazing year.
But I remember it was grueling.

686
00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:28,561
Saturday Night Live, it's very intense.
A long schedule.

687
00:36:28,644 --> 00:36:32,273
Especially if you're, uh,
writing and performing.

688
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:37,737
I like to write with, you know,
Mike there, Dick Blasucci, Paul Flaherty,

689
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:39,447
and a tape recorder going.

690
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:41,240
And I would get up and improvise.

691
00:36:41,324 --> 00:36:44,702
And when I was doing SNL,
I was just by myself in the office.

692
00:36:44,785 --> 00:36:46,412
-You hated it.
-Oh, I hated it.

693
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:49,707
I went into Dick Ebersol's office

694
00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:52,043
and said, "I would like to quit."

695
00:36:52,543 --> 00:36:56,339
He said, "Look,
first of all, you have a contract,

696
00:36:56,422 --> 00:36:59,383
but this must be
a pretty goddamn tough place

697
00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:01,719
if a good guy like you wants to leave."

698
00:37:02,845 --> 00:37:04,013
"I'll tell you what,

699
00:37:05,598 --> 00:37:07,600
if you feel this way at Christmas,

700
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:09,852
I'll let you out of your contract."

701
00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:12,480
Because he knew, as he later said,

702
00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:16,567
that by Christmas, I'd see
the light at the end of the tunnel,

703
00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:20,488
and I also would have figured out
how to do this from week to week.

704
00:37:20,571 --> 00:37:21,948
You seem defensive.

705
00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:24,700
I'm not being defensive.
You're the one who's being defensive.

706
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:28,037
Why is it always
the other person who's being defensive?

707
00:37:30,122 --> 00:37:32,667
Have you ever asked yourself that?
Why don't you ask yourself that?

708
00:37:33,334 --> 00:37:36,587
If you make them three-dimensional
in some sort of human connection,

709
00:37:36,671 --> 00:37:38,047
then you can really go.

710
00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:41,676
Mr. Thurm, we appreciate your willingness
to talk with us tonight.

711
00:37:41,759 --> 00:37:43,052
What do you mean by that?

712
00:37:44,303 --> 00:37:48,683
Mr. Thurm, as you are well aware,
your critics, and there are many--

713
00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:49,600
No, there aren't.

714
00:37:50,893 --> 00:37:53,229
How do you come up
with a character like that?

715
00:37:53,312 --> 00:37:55,147
It was so incredibly original.

716
00:37:55,231 --> 00:37:59,819
There was a… a makeup artist
that year on SNL, Marion Siebert.

717
00:37:59,902 --> 00:38:03,322
She was the most defensive human being

718
00:38:03,406 --> 00:38:05,533
you had ever met in your life.

719
00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:07,118
You'd sit in her chair.

720
00:38:07,201 --> 00:38:09,495
And she'd dab. "Look at me."

721
00:38:10,746 --> 00:38:13,541
"Your features don't match.
This is tough for me."

722
00:38:14,041 --> 00:38:15,251
She's dabbing.

723
00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:18,462
I'd say, "Gee, I look pale.
Don't I, Marion?"

724
00:38:18,546 --> 00:38:20,673
She'd say, "I know that.
You don't think I know that?"

725
00:38:20,756 --> 00:38:22,758
"I'm a makeup artist. I would know that."

726
00:38:22,842 --> 00:38:25,011
Harry Shearer said,
"You should do that character."

727
00:38:25,094 --> 00:38:26,887
I said, "But she's gonna
actually be there."

728
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,765
"Oh, that'll be the fun of it,"
said Harry. And, uh…

729
00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:34,186
And every time we did the piece,
I was afraid I would get caught.

730
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:36,272
I know that. Why wouldn't I know that?

731
00:38:36,355 --> 00:38:38,441
It's my company. I'm quite aware of that.

732
00:38:40,484 --> 00:38:41,485
Is it me?

733
00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:43,321
It's him, right?

734
00:38:44,363 --> 00:38:46,574
And she never found out
until the very end.

735
00:38:46,657 --> 00:38:48,701
Her assistant was drunk at the wrap party.

736
00:38:48,784 --> 00:38:51,495
"Don't you know who Nathan Thurm is?"

737
00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:54,248
"How dumb are you?"

738
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:56,876
"You're Nathan Thurm!"

739
00:38:57,752 --> 00:39:00,629
She said, "I know that. You don't think
I know that? I know that. I would--"

740
00:39:03,466 --> 00:39:05,343
What about Saturday Night Live?
Are you going back?

741
00:39:05,426 --> 00:39:07,595
-No. No, I'm not.
-Why?

742
00:39:08,095 --> 00:39:12,516
Because it's a very tough show to do,
and it takes your total concentration.

743
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,771
So your family has to kind of wave goodbye
most of the year.

744
00:39:21,442 --> 00:39:22,401
Hi, Mommy.

745
00:39:23,319 --> 00:39:24,278
Hi, Dad.

746
00:39:25,279 --> 00:39:27,031
You've seen these thighs, haven't you?

747
00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:33,662
…my home
And I don't give a damn about tomorrow

748
00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:34,914
I love my little house

749
00:39:34,997 --> 00:39:36,582
It's Toronto

750
00:39:36,665 --> 00:39:37,625
Welcome

751
00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:40,044
to 590 Indian Road.

752
00:39:41,337 --> 00:39:43,631
And this is Martin Short's wife.

753
00:39:44,757 --> 00:39:47,093
The controversially misunderstood

754
00:39:48,177 --> 00:39:49,595
Nancy Dolman.

755
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:51,931
Or otherwise known as…

756
00:39:52,681 --> 00:39:54,016
The Duchess of Dolman.

757
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,018
Bum-bum-bum-ba

758
00:39:59,897 --> 00:40:01,482
Martin Short.

759
00:40:02,942 --> 00:40:04,402
He's the one in the middle.

760
00:40:06,529 --> 00:40:08,489
That is Martin at age

761
00:40:09,156 --> 00:40:10,199
nine.

762
00:40:12,284 --> 00:40:14,829
That's Martin, second from the left.

763
00:40:15,329 --> 00:40:18,791
Martin, would you like to pick up
a dish towel and give me a hand here?

764
00:40:18,874 --> 00:40:24,171
This is a heavier-set Martin Short
in the summer of 1963.

765
00:40:37,476 --> 00:40:41,105
There was a very, very great deal of love
in that house.

766
00:40:45,568 --> 00:40:48,320
I was the youngest of five,
and everyone was hysterical.

767
00:40:49,321 --> 00:40:52,825
Parents and all the kids,
so I just… That was all I knew.

768
00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:56,579
I mean, we would do recordings.

769
00:40:57,663 --> 00:41:00,958
Good afternoon, ladies
and gentlemen. Good evening too.

770
00:41:01,041 --> 00:41:04,044
People would sing at the piano,
make fun of each other.

771
00:41:04,128 --> 00:41:06,255
Nora, you start being funny.

772
00:41:08,257 --> 00:41:10,176
My name is, um…

773
00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:12,595
Get a lot of laughs with this name?

774
00:41:12,678 --> 00:41:15,639
Why are you trying to get over
you can't get a laugh with a name?

775
00:41:15,723 --> 00:41:16,974
You want my last name?

776
00:41:17,057 --> 00:41:18,267
Might be funny.

777
00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:20,519
Jenny Cardinal.

778
00:41:23,022 --> 00:41:24,190
Got a laugh!

779
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,942
There was verbal freedom in our house.

780
00:41:27,026 --> 00:41:29,445
So you could talk back to your father,

781
00:41:29,528 --> 00:41:32,698
and he would overpower you
with his Irish intellect.

782
00:41:32,781 --> 00:41:34,325
Take the microphone, Dad.

783
00:41:34,825 --> 00:41:36,160
Take the microphone.

784
00:41:36,243 --> 00:41:37,703
Just take it. Sing something.

785
00:41:37,786 --> 00:41:40,831
Dad, would you come and sing
before he goes crazy?

786
00:41:41,415 --> 00:41:44,335
There will come a day

787
00:41:44,418 --> 00:41:46,837
And youth will pass away

788
00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:52,551
Everyone will say, "I love you"

789
00:41:53,135 --> 00:41:54,929
Now, let's meet Olive Short,

790
00:41:55,012 --> 00:41:57,932
concert mistress
of the Hamilton Philharmonic Orchestra.

791
00:41:58,015 --> 00:41:59,725
She is also the wife of a Stelco-ite,

792
00:41:59,808 --> 00:42:03,729
CP Short, the general sales manager,
screw products division.

793
00:42:03,812 --> 00:42:06,815
She was the first female
concert mistress, they used to call it,

794
00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:11,654
in North America from 1952 to '62,
at Hamilton Philharmonic.

795
00:42:17,451 --> 00:42:22,122
My mother was a sweet angel of a person.

796
00:42:22,623 --> 00:42:25,376
My father had so much edge.

797
00:42:25,459 --> 00:42:27,419
I think that with any family,

798
00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:33,008
if you have one grounded,
sweet, angelic person,

799
00:42:33,092 --> 00:42:36,303
whether the mother or the father,
then that balances everything out.

800
00:42:43,352 --> 00:42:47,648
-You had three brothers, one sister?
-Three brothers, one sister.

801
00:42:47,731 --> 00:42:50,776
Your brother, David,
you were very fond of him, were you not?

802
00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:52,403
Yeah, he was my hero.

803
00:42:52,486 --> 00:42:54,029
He was your hero. Why?

804
00:42:54,113 --> 00:42:56,740
Because he was,
I guess, the eldest brother,

805
00:42:56,824 --> 00:42:58,909
and because he was phenomenal.

806
00:42:58,993 --> 00:43:02,288
I mean, he died when I was 12,
so sometimes out of that comes legend,

807
00:43:02,371 --> 00:43:05,457
but the legend in this case
was really very deserved, I think.

808
00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:09,878
David was handsome.

809
00:43:10,963 --> 00:43:12,423
He was funny.

810
00:43:12,923 --> 00:43:16,260
He was so sweet, ridiculously sweet,

811
00:43:16,343 --> 00:43:17,428
and adored.

812
00:43:17,928 --> 00:43:20,472
Trumpet player, cool guy.

813
00:43:22,182 --> 00:43:23,475
He was 14 years older.

814
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:26,687
When he came home,
probably at four in the morning,

815
00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:28,397
and now it's 7:30,

816
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,107
I would go up to his room.

817
00:43:30,190 --> 00:43:34,903
A lot of 19-year-olds would say,
"Get out. I'm sleeping."

818
00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:37,865
David would let me get in bed with him,

819
00:43:38,365 --> 00:43:39,867
but he would play giant,

820
00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:43,412
where I had to try to steal his pillow

821
00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:48,417
while the giant was sleeping,
so it allowed him to continue to sleep.

822
00:43:48,917 --> 00:43:52,254
But as I got the pillow just far out,
his arm would come around me,

823
00:43:52,338 --> 00:43:54,048
and the giant would capture me.

824
00:43:54,131 --> 00:43:55,215
That's who he was.

825
00:43:57,801 --> 00:44:00,012
One day, I was at Camp Juaniquita,

826
00:44:00,095 --> 00:44:04,433
and I remember waking up depressed.

827
00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:09,897
The counselor said,
"Your brother's been in an accident,

828
00:44:11,398 --> 00:44:12,775
and it killed him."

829
00:44:12,858 --> 00:44:14,068
That's how he put it.

830
00:44:14,151 --> 00:44:16,820
And I said, "Is he okay?"

831
00:44:18,572 --> 00:44:19,865
"No, it killed him."

832
00:44:24,745 --> 00:44:27,081
I mean, it was like nothing made sense.

833
00:44:27,790 --> 00:44:31,293
And then I had a dream.

834
00:44:32,294 --> 00:44:36,674
And I'm telling you, I can see it
right now, and it was in Technicolor.

835
00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:42,930
And I was sitting by a stream
in the woods,

836
00:44:43,013 --> 00:44:44,556
and David came up.

837
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,183
He looked handsome.

838
00:44:46,266 --> 00:44:48,644
He was wearing
this beautiful Ban-Lon shirt.

839
00:44:49,144 --> 00:44:50,729
And he said,

840
00:44:52,648 --> 00:44:56,026
"I'm fine. Everything is wonderful."

841
00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:57,778
"And I'll see you in a minute."

842
00:44:59,405 --> 00:45:00,948
And I woke up.

843
00:45:02,574 --> 00:45:04,451
And a cloud had lifted.

844
00:45:10,124 --> 00:45:13,544
At the funeral, Mom developed a cough.
She started coughing at the funeral.

845
00:45:14,753 --> 00:45:18,841
She had had breast cancer in 1957,
which I never knew about.

846
00:45:19,925 --> 00:45:24,638
And by the end of that year,
she is really going downhill.

847
00:45:25,305 --> 00:45:28,851
Nora tells a story
that she was nursing in California.

848
00:45:28,934 --> 00:45:30,686
She knew Mom was going down,

849
00:45:30,769 --> 00:45:33,439
so she flew back to be her nurse.

850
00:45:33,522 --> 00:45:36,692
And Nora was present
when the doctor came in and said,

851
00:45:36,775 --> 00:45:38,694
"Olive, you've got three months to live."

852
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,449
And Mom's response was, after he left,

853
00:45:43,532 --> 00:45:46,243
"This can't happen.
I have another child to raise."

854
00:45:46,326 --> 00:45:48,746
So she said to Nora, "Pass me the grapes."

855
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:51,790
And that became a… a symbol
of courage in our family,

856
00:45:51,874 --> 00:45:53,167
"Pass me the grapes."

857
00:45:56,503 --> 00:45:58,213
And then she came home

858
00:45:58,714 --> 00:46:04,386
and went into this remarkable,
you-can't-explain-it remission,

859
00:46:05,345 --> 00:46:07,681
and was in perfect health
for the next two years.

860
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,146
But by the time
I was in grade 13, she died.

861
00:46:18,942 --> 00:46:21,779
Mom died, and Dad's health went fast.

862
00:46:22,654 --> 00:46:25,616
It was just strokes that diminished him,

863
00:46:26,116 --> 00:46:29,119
from being the most powerful guy
that walked in the room

864
00:46:29,203 --> 00:46:31,455
to just quieter, quieter.

865
00:46:34,625 --> 00:46:37,961
He and I took a world cruise
for five weeks, the two of us.

866
00:46:39,505 --> 00:46:43,383
But even when we were in Ireland,
he didn't want to see his siblings

867
00:46:43,926 --> 00:46:46,261
because he was not in great shape.

868
00:46:47,596 --> 00:46:49,598
He had arteriosclerosis.

869
00:46:50,098 --> 00:46:51,725
He drank gin and ginger,

870
00:46:51,809 --> 00:46:55,270
but it was the two packs of smokes
that he had every day.

871
00:46:57,898 --> 00:46:59,900
You had to handle tragedy
when you were a lad.

872
00:46:59,983 --> 00:47:01,735
-Right.
-You lost a brother. He died.

873
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,154
I lost my brother David when I was 12.

874
00:47:04,238 --> 00:47:06,782
My mother when I was 18.
My father when I was 20.

875
00:47:07,741 --> 00:47:09,910
Tough, being the youngest
in the family as well.

876
00:47:09,993 --> 00:47:13,205
Right. At that age, or any age,
when you lose someone in your family,

877
00:47:13,288 --> 00:47:15,332
you have a choice.
You actually have a choice.

878
00:47:15,415 --> 00:47:16,917
"How do I handle this?"

879
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,044
-This is a life lesson.
-Right.

880
00:47:19,127 --> 00:47:22,923
And so, do I… do I collapse?
Do I become defeated forever?

881
00:47:23,006 --> 00:47:27,010
Or do I actually kind of learn
that life is short,

882
00:47:27,094 --> 00:47:30,097
and have a glass of wine
and laugh and fun,

883
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:32,683
and appreciate these people,
and never let them go?

884
00:47:32,766 --> 00:47:33,934
See, that's, I think, the great secret.

885
00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:37,521
If you never let them go from your life,
then they're always with your life.

886
00:47:37,604 --> 00:47:39,898
Because before you know it,
you know, you'll be with them.

887
00:47:44,444 --> 00:47:47,656
My family adores each other to this day.

888
00:47:50,492 --> 00:47:53,829
I think Uncle Mike is probably
the most similar to my dad.

889
00:47:54,621 --> 00:47:56,206
They worked a lot together.

890
00:47:56,290 --> 00:47:57,249
-Ugh!
-What?

891
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,002
Uncle Brian and Aunt Nora,
I think, are a little more alike

892
00:48:00,085 --> 00:48:03,088
and probably more like their mother,
a little more sweeter.

893
00:48:03,797 --> 00:48:07,551
There's certainly always
the laughter and the jokes.

894
00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:12,681
Who do you think
is the meanest one in the family?

895
00:48:12,764 --> 00:48:15,559
You. And everyone would agree with that.

896
00:48:15,642 --> 00:48:18,270
-You wouldn't even hesitate for a second?
-Not a second.

897
00:48:18,353 --> 00:48:20,898
And if you asked Nora,
she'd say, "Michael."

898
00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:22,482
Nora has no credibility.

899
00:48:22,566 --> 00:48:25,152
-Brian would say the same.
-Brian has no credibility.

900
00:48:25,235 --> 00:48:27,195
Okay, so no one has credibility.

901
00:48:27,279 --> 00:48:30,198
But the answer is,
you're the most like Dad,

902
00:48:30,824 --> 00:48:32,659
and everyone agrees.

903
00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:36,038
The four of us get together.

904
00:48:36,121 --> 00:48:39,708
We have hilarity, drink rum and Cokes,

905
00:48:39,791 --> 00:48:43,587
laugh, insult each other,
and like nothing's changed.

906
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:45,172
Very close family.

907
00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:51,303
We used to call it
"Maintaining the merry theme of life."

908
00:48:51,386 --> 00:48:52,930
And that was it.

909
00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:56,224
And sometimes,
it gets hard to do, you know?

910
00:48:56,308 --> 00:49:00,479
But, you know, you have to admire someone
that… that continues to do that.

911
00:49:00,979 --> 00:49:04,107
And I think this is why
people, uh, really like Marty so much,

912
00:49:04,191 --> 00:49:08,111
'cause he is always trying to maintain
the merry theme of life.

913
00:49:09,196 --> 00:49:11,323
-Did you get--
-Yes, it's the four Shorts.

914
00:49:11,406 --> 00:49:14,034
-Yes, it's…
-Group… Group hug, group hug.

915
00:49:14,117 --> 00:49:16,536
And here we are, Ken, after so many years.

916
00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:18,080
-What's she doing?
-I don't know.

917
00:49:18,163 --> 00:49:20,123
-Group hug!
-Group hug, group hug, group hug!

918
00:49:20,207 --> 00:49:23,126
We all came from the same womb.

919
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:26,171
-Group hug, group hug, group hug!
-Group hug!

920
00:49:27,255 --> 00:49:29,591
There once were five,
and now there's only four.

921
00:49:29,675 --> 00:49:30,717
Group hug, group hug!

922
00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:32,386
Misery, misery…

923
00:49:32,469 --> 00:49:34,221
We had a bad eight years.

924
00:49:34,304 --> 00:49:36,264
-That was not a good eight years.
-Yeah.

925
00:49:36,348 --> 00:49:38,183
We had speed dial to the funeral parlor.

926
00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:40,644
-Yes.
-But there were laughs during those years.

927
00:49:40,727 --> 00:49:42,980
-Yes.
-But that's the point.

928
00:49:49,194 --> 00:49:53,031
We're having trouble breaking through
that wall of conversation, Larry.

929
00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:56,618
-Steve might join us for dinner.
-All right.

930
00:49:58,203 --> 00:50:00,247
All right, I'll make you coffee.

931
00:50:03,875 --> 00:50:06,336
Eleven, twelve,

932
00:50:08,296 --> 00:50:09,297
thirteen.

933
00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:13,885
As I pour, I'll do
my Richard Burton impersonation. Ready?

934
00:50:14,636 --> 00:50:15,929
For God's sake,

935
00:50:16,596 --> 00:50:19,182
let us tell sad stories
of the death of kings.

936
00:50:19,683 --> 00:50:23,770
How some have been deposed,
some slain in war,

937
00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:28,775
some poisoned by their wives,
all murdered.

938
00:50:29,401 --> 00:50:31,111
All right. I'm ready, Lawrence.

939
00:50:35,115 --> 00:50:37,701
What do you want in your coffee? Mustard?

940
00:50:38,243 --> 00:50:41,788
A couple of years ago when you came here,
you were just off of SCTV,

941
00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:43,665
then part of Saturday Night Live.

942
00:50:43,749 --> 00:50:47,127
The last three or four times
you've been here, you're a leading man.

943
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:49,421
You're in major, big budget films.

944
00:50:49,921 --> 00:50:52,215
-Pretty good deal.
-Yeah, it's good. It's good.

945
00:50:52,299 --> 00:50:57,304
Although I do feel that it's possible
for it to just end.

946
00:51:06,271 --> 00:51:09,191
The first movie I made was Three Amigos.

947
00:51:12,402 --> 00:51:16,490
It was equal billing,
but they were two big, big stars.

948
00:51:18,241 --> 00:51:20,577
-I'm Lucky Day.
-I'm Ned Nederlander.

949
00:51:20,660 --> 00:51:22,704
I'm Dusty Bottoms. Together, we're…

950
00:51:22,788 --> 00:51:24,831
The Three Amigos!

951
00:51:27,793 --> 00:51:29,002
I was aware of Marty.

952
00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:31,463
He was… To me, he was known.

953
00:51:31,546 --> 00:51:33,882
He always calls himself "The Cheap Amigo."

954
00:51:33,965 --> 00:51:37,219
For people watching who might not know,
I think each of us should say our name.

955
00:51:37,302 --> 00:51:38,595
Martin Short.

956
00:51:41,848 --> 00:51:44,392
We did bond very quickly over laughter.

957
00:51:47,687 --> 00:51:50,357
Now, that was a terrific scene
you just did with me.

958
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,526
It was fabulous, and I'll tell you why.

959
00:51:52,609 --> 00:51:55,654
It's because you managed
to blend into the background

960
00:51:55,737 --> 00:51:57,781
and not stick out
and not try and be funny.

961
00:51:57,864 --> 00:52:00,742
That's important when you're in a scene
with me, is to do that.

962
00:52:00,826 --> 00:52:03,328
Because if you're out there
trying to be funny,

963
00:52:03,411 --> 00:52:05,288
the audience is going to hate you for it.

964
00:52:05,372 --> 00:52:09,292
Because I'll be on the screen,
and they'll know my aura will extend out.

965
00:52:09,376 --> 00:52:12,504
You don't want to ever interfere
with my aura of comedy.

966
00:52:12,587 --> 00:52:15,632
When you're doing the scene with Chevy,
that's when I would go big.

967
00:52:15,715 --> 00:52:16,758
Really mug…

968
00:52:16,842 --> 00:52:22,097
Mug, big, and try to take.
What is it when you're in a scene with me?

969
00:52:22,180 --> 00:52:23,890
Underplay, go into the background.

970
00:52:23,974 --> 00:52:24,975
With Chevy?

971
00:52:25,058 --> 00:52:27,686
-Mug, mug, mug.
-Great. Terrific. Great.

972
00:52:27,769 --> 00:52:29,646
-Thank you, Steve.
-It's okay. Aw.

973
00:52:29,729 --> 00:52:31,565
-It's nice. Thank you.
-It's okay.

974
00:52:35,610 --> 00:52:37,320
We'd play Scrabble a lot.

975
00:52:37,404 --> 00:52:39,781
I remember I passed Chevy
a note that said,

976
00:52:39,865 --> 00:52:43,368
"I'll let you ball my wife Nancy
for an E or a Q."

977
00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:47,706
And Chevy, that fit into his wheelhouse
of what he thought was funny.

978
00:52:47,789 --> 00:52:51,168
He said, "I'm gonna pick you up.
You and I will drive to work every day."

979
00:52:51,251 --> 00:52:54,129
And so very quickly, we all bonded.

980
00:52:56,631 --> 00:52:59,426
In life, sometimes you hit a green light.

981
00:53:00,969 --> 00:53:03,388
And sometimes, for no reason,
it's a red light.

982
00:53:03,889 --> 00:53:06,266
Is there something out there
that is really so bad?

983
00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:08,476
I can't really recommend Three Amigos.

984
00:53:13,481 --> 00:53:17,611
Three Amigos opened second
to Golden Child with Eddie Murphy.

985
00:53:18,737 --> 00:53:24,201
But it's become so revered
by, particularly, boys in their forties.

986
00:53:24,701 --> 00:53:28,997
It's interesting how he feels
about failures. You know? It, um…

987
00:53:29,497 --> 00:53:33,460
Uh, Lorne, Steve, and Marty,

988
00:53:33,543 --> 00:53:35,712
if you bring up Three Amigos,

989
00:53:35,795 --> 00:53:39,132
only recently will they embrace
that people like it.

990
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:42,010
When I first met Marty
and told him how much it meant to me,

991
00:53:42,093 --> 00:53:45,513
he went, "Yeah, but it didn't open.
It lost to Golden Child." Like that.

992
00:53:46,014 --> 00:53:50,185
I remember Justin Timberlake telling him
how much Three Amigos meant.

993
00:53:50,268 --> 00:53:52,187
Over time, it started to sink in.

994
00:53:52,270 --> 00:53:57,400
Like, "Hey, we… we don't remember
that it lost to Golden Child."

995
00:53:57,484 --> 00:54:00,612
"We just think it's a great movie
and you need to accept that."

996
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:05,742
But at that time, no one's saying
Marty Short's a movie star.

997
00:54:05,825 --> 00:54:07,244
Then we make Innerspace.

998
00:54:07,327 --> 00:54:09,496
Innerspace is a very, very good movie.

999
00:54:12,874 --> 00:54:14,584
It's testing through the roof.

1000
00:54:15,085 --> 00:54:17,337
And you don't know anything
about the experiment?

1001
00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:18,380
What experiment?

1002
00:54:18,463 --> 00:54:20,632
I've been miniaturized.

1003
00:54:20,715 --> 00:54:24,052
I was supposed to be injected
into the body of a laboratory rabbit,

1004
00:54:24,135 --> 00:54:26,888
and somehow, I got inside you instead.

1005
00:54:26,972 --> 00:54:29,516
And then no one goes to see Innerspace.

1006
00:54:33,561 --> 00:54:35,105
We make Cross My Heart.

1007
00:54:35,188 --> 00:54:39,943
If the next five guys
that you go out with are worse than me,

1008
00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:41,987
will you give me a call?

1009
00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:52,122
No, I don't think so.

1010
00:54:55,166 --> 00:54:58,211
I don't know if you've looked
at the receipts of that one.

1011
00:54:58,712 --> 00:55:02,132
You make movies with a bunch of people
for three months,

1012
00:55:02,215 --> 00:55:03,883
then you never see them again.

1013
00:55:04,884 --> 00:55:08,388
You and I made it a determination,
you were the executive producer,

1014
00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:10,974
that we would continue on
in a relationship.

1015
00:55:11,725 --> 00:55:13,184
That was 40 years ago.

1016
00:55:14,602 --> 00:55:18,815
People regret things their whole
life. But I don't ever get that from you.

1017
00:55:18,898 --> 00:55:23,695
No, I'm… I… I… I kind of adhere
to the, uh, Sinatra lyric…

1018
00:55:23,778 --> 00:55:27,741
Regrets I've had a few
But then again, too few to mention

1019
00:55:27,824 --> 00:55:30,118
That's kind of the philosophy
I like to go with.

1020
00:55:32,537 --> 00:55:34,622
I feed the chickens.

1021
00:55:35,248 --> 00:55:37,417
And I gather the eggs.

1022
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:38,710
Big boat.

1023
00:55:38,793 --> 00:55:39,711
The big boat?

1024
00:55:39,794 --> 00:55:40,754
Yeah.

1025
00:55:41,421 --> 00:55:42,297
Did you hear it?

1026
00:55:42,380 --> 00:55:43,923
-I hear it.
-Yeah.

1027
00:55:45,633 --> 00:55:50,388
I remember, in 1987,
Nancy and I bought our house.

1028
00:55:51,264 --> 00:55:54,476
And it was based on two movies
I was about to make.

1029
00:55:55,060 --> 00:55:57,896
The second I signed the mortgage,
one movie fell through.

1030
00:56:00,148 --> 00:56:03,151
I thought, "I don't deserve this."
You know, "I'm 37."

1031
00:56:03,234 --> 00:56:07,280
"I don't deserve to look at the ocean
from my living room."

1032
00:56:09,074 --> 00:56:12,619
I'd say to Nancy,
"What if we can't keep this?"

1033
00:56:12,702 --> 00:56:14,788
"What if we can't sustain it?"

1034
00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:18,375
She said, "Well, then we'll move."

1035
00:56:18,458 --> 00:56:21,461
It's like, "We're the… we're the gimmick."

1036
00:56:21,961 --> 00:56:22,837
Us.

1037
00:56:22,921 --> 00:56:26,299
And as you can see in his career,
something fails…

1038
00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:27,967
Sorry, it's the truth.

1039
00:56:28,051 --> 00:56:30,261
And he just, the next day,
steps right up to the plate

1040
00:56:30,345 --> 00:56:31,846
and invents something else.

1041
00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:37,143
In 1992, I did my first
Broadway musical, with Bernadette Peters.

1042
00:56:37,894 --> 00:56:40,522
-Paula
-That name has a ring to me

1043
00:56:40,605 --> 00:56:44,692
-I'm gaga over Paula
-I tingle when you sing to me

1044
00:56:44,776 --> 00:56:48,863
I get complete satisfaction of doing
a great take in front of a camera.

1045
00:56:48,947 --> 00:56:53,618
But to be in opening night
and finishing a big production number

1046
00:56:53,701 --> 00:56:56,663
and have the audience cheering,
that's out of the movies.

1047
00:56:56,746 --> 00:57:01,960
You have a chip on your shoulder
The size of the Empire State

1048
00:57:02,043 --> 00:57:04,796
How do you get
a Broadway show? How does that happen?

1049
00:57:04,879 --> 00:57:07,590
Well, the… the…
I was doing a film in San Juan.

1050
00:57:07,674 --> 00:57:10,176
How does that happen?

1051
00:57:11,094 --> 00:57:13,638
I sing, for example, but I'm in comedy.

1052
00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:16,558
If you sing in comedy,
you can't legitimately sing.

1053
00:57:16,641 --> 00:57:19,936
Because people are waiting
for the sandbag to drop on you.

1054
00:57:20,019 --> 00:57:22,272
I've seen him before,
but never knew he could sing.

1055
00:57:22,355 --> 00:57:24,524
-I never knew he could sing.
-I didn't know.

1056
00:57:24,607 --> 00:57:25,942
I knew it all along.

1057
00:57:26,443 --> 00:57:28,027
The world finds out tonight.

1058
00:57:28,111 --> 00:57:29,446
It's gonna change your life.

1059
00:57:29,529 --> 00:57:32,407
Well, it's certainly a dream
I always had wanted to do.

1060
00:57:32,490 --> 00:57:36,536
I think that, uh, every actor has to do
a stage experience in New York

1061
00:57:36,619 --> 00:57:39,497
or he's not truly, truly fulfilled
as an actor.

1062
00:57:42,333 --> 00:57:47,589
There are so, um, many, many people
that I… I really must thank

1063
00:57:47,672 --> 00:57:49,799
and should, but

1064
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:53,845
the reality is I did it all myself.

1065
00:57:56,556 --> 00:57:58,892
He has a new motion picture,
uh, opening up now

1066
00:57:58,975 --> 00:58:02,270
all over the country with Steve Martin,
entitled Father of the Bride.

1067
00:58:02,353 --> 00:58:03,354
Martin…

1068
00:58:04,647 --> 00:58:06,608
People tell me
you're a standout in this film.

1069
00:58:06,691 --> 00:58:08,318
That you steal the motion picture.

1070
00:58:08,401 --> 00:58:11,654
Well, no, I wouldn't say that's true,
but it's a very funny film.

1071
00:58:11,738 --> 00:58:14,073
Uh, how would you describe
Father of the Bride?

1072
00:58:14,157 --> 00:58:16,493
-Well, I think it's a touching film.
-Uh-huh.

1073
00:58:16,576 --> 00:58:20,622
I think it's a comic film. I think it has
very moving emotional moments.

1074
00:58:20,705 --> 00:58:24,042
And it has the high comedy,
and it has the low comedy.

1075
00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:26,127
Hello!

1076
00:58:26,211 --> 00:58:29,339
I apologize for keeping you waiting.
I'm Franck. A pleasure to meet you.

1077
00:58:30,465 --> 00:58:33,426
It's another example of being so extreme,

1078
00:58:34,177 --> 00:58:35,637
and pulling it off.

1079
00:58:36,262 --> 00:58:37,972
The idea was that Franck

1080
00:58:38,056 --> 00:58:42,185
symbolized for Steve Martin
his alienation from the process.

1081
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:46,105
We have problem.
Hanck does not now want to prep a chicken.

1082
00:58:46,189 --> 00:58:47,482
He doesn't what?

1083
00:58:47,565 --> 00:58:50,693
Kimberly Williams and Diane
could understand him,

1084
00:58:50,777 --> 00:58:51,903
and I couldn't.

1085
00:58:52,403 --> 00:58:55,740
But to what degree? What degree?

1086
00:58:56,449 --> 00:58:57,534
Start.

1087
00:58:57,617 --> 00:58:59,285
You have not made up your list yet,

1088
00:58:59,369 --> 00:59:02,664
but you know you want a wedding
at home on January 6th, right?

1089
00:59:02,747 --> 00:59:05,750
The executives, they were apprehensive
about this character.

1090
00:59:05,833 --> 00:59:09,337
You have not made up your list yet,
but you want a wedding at home on January…

1091
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:11,673
And we would keep dialing it down.

1092
00:59:12,257 --> 00:59:14,300
So... you have not made up your list yet,

1093
00:59:14,384 --> 00:59:17,512
but you know you want a wedding
at home on January 6th, right?

1094
00:59:17,595 --> 00:59:18,680
Finally, I remember Steve saying,

1095
00:59:18,763 --> 00:59:21,849
"Guys, there's no joke here.
I understand it perfectly."

1096
00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:24,811
Please, with all due respect,
welcome to the '90s.

1097
00:59:29,607 --> 00:59:33,194
You can't understand anything you say.
Are you saying anything when you speak?

1098
00:59:33,278 --> 00:59:36,239
I said to Charles,
it's fabulous to be here, you know.

1099
00:59:36,322 --> 00:59:37,865
You look very handsome in the tie.

1100
00:59:37,949 --> 00:59:40,451
I wouldn't go with that color tie,
but that shirt's nice.

1101
00:59:40,535 --> 00:59:41,369
Right.

1102
00:59:41,452 --> 00:59:43,997
Now, Steve plays the father of the bride,

1103
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,500
and, uh, do you like Steve
more than you like me?

1104
00:59:48,126 --> 00:59:49,711
I'll… I'll tell you this,

1105
00:59:49,794 --> 00:59:53,339
and, um, this is going to make me
sound shallow, and it shouldn't

1106
00:59:53,423 --> 00:59:55,592
because if it is,
then I'm being misinterpreted.

1107
00:59:55,675 --> 00:59:58,177
Steve can do more for me than you.

1108
00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:02,599
Can you just act like a human boy
for one minute here?

1109
01:00:03,182 --> 01:00:04,726
Look at me like a person.

1110
01:00:05,226 --> 01:00:08,646
You can't do it for more than a few
seconds. Look at me like a human boy!

1111
01:00:09,147 --> 01:00:10,440
Don't mess around with me.

1112
01:00:11,024 --> 01:00:12,817
You're gonna be back on that plane.

1113
01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:14,694
You understand me?

1114
01:00:15,194 --> 01:00:17,238
I understand that I love you.

1115
01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:20,366
I was 40 when I played
a ten-year-old named Clifford.

1116
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:23,745
Marty Short is a great actor,

1117
01:00:23,828 --> 01:00:25,705
and because he does comedic characters,

1118
01:00:25,788 --> 01:00:27,832
possibly people don't recognize
that as much,

1119
01:00:27,915 --> 01:00:30,418
but, you know,
comedic characters aren't easier.

1120
01:00:30,501 --> 01:00:31,544
They're harder.

1121
01:00:33,421 --> 01:00:35,923
Are you…
are you a comedian who acts, Martin,

1122
01:00:36,007 --> 01:00:38,343
or are you an actor who likes comedy?

1123
01:00:38,426 --> 01:00:41,554
I guess I'm an actor who does comedy,

1124
01:00:42,472 --> 01:00:44,557
or anything you have.

1125
01:00:45,683 --> 01:00:48,227
Kind of impatient
for a big-time headshrinker, aren't you?

1126
01:00:49,228 --> 01:00:51,272
How about you let me explain it
my way, okay?

1127
01:00:51,356 --> 01:00:52,857
Thanks, that'd be great.

1128
01:00:53,358 --> 01:00:55,860
What makes a movie attractive to you?

1129
01:00:55,943 --> 01:00:57,528
It's not the money…

1130
01:00:57,612 --> 01:00:59,781
Mm-hmm. It's money.

1131
01:01:01,699 --> 01:01:03,326
May I have the camera, please?

1132
01:01:04,786 --> 01:01:05,953
Yeah, sure, boss.

1133
01:01:07,246 --> 01:01:12,335
Well over 90% of my career
was a total and utter commercial failure.

1134
01:01:13,002 --> 01:01:17,507
But I was in enough successful things
to keep the wheels spinning.

1135
01:01:17,590 --> 01:01:20,593
You mean they can read our thoughts?

1136
01:01:20,677 --> 01:01:22,303
I don't know you.

1137
01:01:22,387 --> 01:01:23,513
I don't know your work.

1138
01:01:24,097 --> 01:01:27,475
But I think that you are
a very, very talented young man,

1139
01:01:27,558 --> 01:01:29,560
and I'm never wrong about these things.

1140
01:01:30,603 --> 01:01:32,397
I… I've never had a big game plan.

1141
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,567
I… I've never been
necessarily commercially, uh, savvy.

1142
01:01:37,318 --> 01:01:38,152
Asshole.

1143
01:01:38,236 --> 01:01:39,570
Yes?

1144
01:01:39,654 --> 01:01:40,947
I've had lots of things fail.

1145
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:42,365
I've never then looked in the mirror
and said,

1146
01:01:42,448 --> 01:01:45,284
"I am not worthy.
I've been… I've been put in my place."

1147
01:01:45,368 --> 01:01:47,870
You are actually a predator.

1148
01:01:48,871 --> 01:01:50,832
People are gonna want you to own that.

1149
01:01:55,253 --> 01:01:56,963
As opposed to…

1150
01:01:59,257 --> 01:02:01,426
What are you exactly, Mitch?

1151
01:02:02,009 --> 01:02:07,056
I think it's insane if someone says, "Oh,
I had a horrible time making that movie."

1152
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:10,560
"I hated making that movie,
but please let it be successful."

1153
01:02:10,643 --> 01:02:13,521
If it's only gonna be successful
at the box office,

1154
01:02:13,604 --> 01:02:15,773
that's very unlikely.

1155
01:02:16,357 --> 01:02:20,194
The experience you can have in your soul
is the experience of doing it.

1156
01:02:20,278 --> 01:02:23,823
Was it creative? Was it fun?
Did you have fun dinners?

1157
01:02:23,906 --> 01:02:25,950
Was the hang good?

1158
01:02:27,326 --> 01:02:28,286
What's that?

1159
01:02:28,369 --> 01:02:29,662
Aha!

1160
01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:33,458
Entertainment tonight!

1161
01:02:33,541 --> 01:02:37,545
Entertainment tonight!

1162
01:02:53,561 --> 01:02:56,606
We're staging a breakfast.
I've already eaten.

1163
01:02:57,899 --> 01:03:00,026
Oh my God, am I hungry.

1164
01:03:01,319 --> 01:03:03,279
Famished.

1165
01:03:03,988 --> 01:03:05,364
Oh boy.

1166
01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:09,702
Mm, it's so good.

1167
01:03:15,958 --> 01:03:17,293
It's Snug Harbour,

1168
01:03:17,376 --> 01:03:20,838
and I'm having my first
vodka tonic of the season.

1169
01:03:21,339 --> 01:03:23,883
For, you see,
it's the first day of summer.

1170
01:03:23,966 --> 01:03:25,635
I s… I s…

1171
01:03:26,135 --> 01:03:27,094
I say…

1172
01:03:27,637 --> 01:03:30,139
I… I say
it's the first day of summer, Henry.

1173
01:03:30,223 --> 01:03:32,350
-Are you happy to be here, Daddy?
-Yes.

1174
01:03:33,476 --> 01:03:36,938
Our fabulous cottage
that we own in Canada…

1175
01:03:37,021 --> 01:03:38,564
Mom, watch how high I go.

1176
01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:40,608
…was bought by Nancy,

1177
01:03:41,108 --> 01:03:43,194
sight unseen by me.

1178
01:03:43,277 --> 01:03:44,904
And those are the children.

1179
01:03:45,738 --> 01:03:47,740
I remember standing at the counter

1180
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:50,076
while she told Marty
that she had bought the cottage.

1181
01:03:51,035 --> 01:03:52,912
I said, "Nancy, has he seen the cottage?"

1182
01:03:52,995 --> 01:03:54,539
"No, he hasn't seen it."

1183
01:03:54,622 --> 01:03:58,835
And I'm thinking, "God, I…
Could I do that? Maybe I should do that."

1184
01:04:00,378 --> 01:04:01,921
I always did whatever Nancy told me.

1185
01:04:02,004 --> 01:04:03,464
That's part of Nancy's character.

1186
01:04:03,548 --> 01:04:06,926
"Larry, why don't you go get those,
and pick them up and bring them here?"

1187
01:04:07,009 --> 01:04:10,388
"Yes, Nancy." Wouldn't you just do
whatever she told you to do?

1188
01:04:10,888 --> 01:04:14,141
She had such… loving authority.

1189
01:04:15,142 --> 01:04:16,936
Hey, say something funny.

1190
01:04:17,019 --> 01:04:19,063
Oh… Oh, uh…

1191
01:04:19,564 --> 01:04:21,315
Here… Here with the guys…

1192
01:04:25,570 --> 01:04:28,364
It is one of those places
that when you come here,

1193
01:04:28,447 --> 01:04:32,493
even if you haven't been here for a year,
you feel like you haven't left.

1194
01:04:34,203 --> 01:04:37,415
I always thought it was like
if heaven existed,

1195
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,962
then maybe heaven is
your favorite place in eternity.

1196
01:04:44,505 --> 01:04:46,632
And that would be this place.

1197
01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:52,722
There's Meg Kasdan.

1198
01:04:53,222 --> 01:04:54,348
Let go, Ollie.

1199
01:04:54,432 --> 01:04:55,725
Hi, Marty.

1200
01:04:55,808 --> 01:04:59,645
-Hello. Welcome to Snug Harbour.
-Thank you. It's quite fabulous.

1201
01:04:59,729 --> 01:05:01,731
And there, of course,

1202
01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:04,025
Larry Kasdan.

1203
01:05:04,108 --> 01:05:05,234
Hello, Martin.

1204
01:05:05,318 --> 01:05:06,444
Hi, Lar.

1205
01:05:06,527 --> 01:05:10,448
It's so great here. Congratulations
to you on this fabulous place.

1206
01:05:10,531 --> 01:05:14,160
Thank you. Well, I couldn't
have done it without Cross My Heart.

1207
01:05:15,286 --> 01:05:17,705
Well, I feel re…

1208
01:05:17,788 --> 01:05:19,415
Responsible for some of it.

1209
01:05:23,085 --> 01:05:27,214
From the moment that you get there,
it's full-on Marty's world.

1210
01:05:35,973 --> 01:05:38,809
Excuse me, Andrea.
What are you playing, kids?

1211
01:05:38,893 --> 01:05:39,852
Monopoly.

1212
01:05:40,853 --> 01:05:42,188
Burgers on the barbecue.

1213
01:05:42,271 --> 01:05:45,107
We got some Canadian produce
being cut up in the kitchen

1214
01:05:45,191 --> 01:05:49,695
that Catherine O'Hara
is graciously preparing.

1215
01:05:49,779 --> 01:05:50,696
Wow.

1216
01:05:50,780 --> 01:05:51,656
Welcome...

1217
01:05:51,739 --> 01:05:54,575
Oh, thank you so much
for letting us enjoy…

1218
01:05:54,659 --> 01:05:56,994
-to Dolshor Manor.
-…the beauty of Snug Harbour.

1219
01:05:57,495 --> 01:06:00,873
It is good.
Does your agent know you're here?

1220
01:06:02,875 --> 01:06:06,754
Oh, my agent's not interested
in where I am at any time.

1221
01:06:08,923 --> 01:06:10,925
Have you had any pie
since you've been here?

1222
01:06:11,008 --> 01:06:12,051
Lots of pie, yeah.

1223
01:06:12,134 --> 01:06:14,971
-I… I don't…
-Well, I'm... I look like Gleason.

1224
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,266
And he gives you this drink
that he found in Jamaica.

1225
01:06:20,059 --> 01:06:24,188
Ting. Now I'm gonna make you a drink.

1226
01:06:24,689 --> 01:06:25,606
Ow.

1227
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,527
Oh, yeah. That's right.
You have an alcohol problem.

1228
01:06:30,027 --> 01:06:30,945
There we go.

1229
01:06:31,028 --> 01:06:32,738
We use the ice.

1230
01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:35,616
And by the way,
I feel that bathing is for suckers,

1231
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:37,618
so I haven't washed these for a while.

1232
01:06:37,702 --> 01:06:39,328
Then you open the Ting.

1233
01:06:42,123 --> 01:06:44,208
Ooh. Ooh.

1234
01:06:45,209 --> 01:06:47,503
Ooh. There you go.

1235
01:06:56,679 --> 01:06:59,432
This is my little girl. My little…

1236
01:06:59,932 --> 01:07:01,434
Come on, Tom. Yes.

1237
01:07:01,517 --> 01:07:02,435
-Sixty…
-73!

1238
01:07:02,518 --> 01:07:05,604
Sixty-nine! O sixty-nine!

1239
01:07:06,772 --> 01:07:09,775
Oh, Marty. Me with my extra weight.

1240
01:07:10,609 --> 01:07:12,028
Try not to hit it too hard.

1241
01:07:12,111 --> 01:07:13,904
Hello? Hi.

1242
01:07:13,988 --> 01:07:16,157
Yes, it's Snug '96.

1243
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,242
-What happened, honey?
-I don't know. It's my groin.

1244
01:07:18,325 --> 01:07:19,952
Must be something I did last night.

1245
01:07:22,455 --> 01:07:24,331
-Oh boy.
-There she goes.

1246
01:07:25,791 --> 01:07:29,128
He's the most connected man
here in Hollywood.

1247
01:07:29,628 --> 01:07:34,800
He knows everybody from the top
to the very bottom of the top.

1248
01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:40,139
We're as happy as we've ever been.

1249
01:07:41,766 --> 01:07:43,726
This is our eldest son, Tom.

1250
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,104
Tom, are you ever gonna get a job?

1251
01:07:47,188 --> 01:07:50,232
Uh-uh, Daddy.
I just love the Canadian woods.

1252
01:07:51,275 --> 01:07:52,902
We love him, though.

1253
01:07:53,569 --> 01:07:57,948
When we first met Marty,
he got up and did a Tony Bennett imitation

1254
01:07:58,032 --> 01:08:00,743
of singing
"I Left My Heart in San Francisco."

1255
01:08:00,826 --> 01:08:03,829
I had that moment of realizing

1256
01:08:03,913 --> 01:08:09,460
I'm gonna hang around with this guy
at every opportunity I… I can muster.

1257
01:08:09,543 --> 01:08:10,669
Tommy!

1258
01:08:11,754 --> 01:08:13,172
I love when you mug.

1259
01:08:13,255 --> 01:08:15,216
Our kids were the same age,

1260
01:08:15,299 --> 01:08:20,971
so we would do
these big family barbecues and dinners.

1261
01:08:21,055 --> 01:08:23,140
And we would just hang out together

1262
01:08:23,224 --> 01:08:27,103
because, I mean, who doesn't want
to be around Marty anyway?

1263
01:08:30,898 --> 01:08:34,151
-Anyone gonna like some red wine?
-I'd love some.

1264
01:08:34,235 --> 01:08:36,320
We were in similar points in our lives.

1265
01:08:36,403 --> 01:08:37,988
-Mm-hmm. Yeah, we were.
-Yeah.

1266
01:08:38,072 --> 01:08:39,740
We have Miss Nancy Short.

1267
01:08:39,824 --> 01:08:41,408
Happy Mom's Day, Kate.

1268
01:08:41,492 --> 01:08:45,329
A mom that I truly admire.
And we have Oliver.

1269
01:08:45,412 --> 01:08:46,747
Mr. Henry Short.

1270
01:08:47,248 --> 01:08:50,709
Tom and I go way back with Rita and Kate.

1271
01:08:51,794 --> 01:08:55,631
We all had kids of the same age.
That was a big deal.

1272
01:08:55,714 --> 01:08:58,050
So a lot of times,
you just work it some way,

1273
01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:01,762
"Let's throw these rugrats all together
so maybe we can have a conversation."

1274
01:09:03,472 --> 01:09:05,766
I think all of us together probably had,

1275
01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:08,644
I don't know, 17, 15…
It was a lot of kids.

1276
01:09:09,228 --> 01:09:10,521
Pass that to me.

1277
01:09:10,604 --> 01:09:15,317
I think the real tell about Marty's heart
is how much my kids love Marty.

1278
01:09:15,818 --> 01:09:17,236
And from very, very young ages,

1279
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:19,697
how my kids just wanted to be with Marty,

1280
01:09:19,780 --> 01:09:22,408
wanted to walk over during a dinner
and sit with Marty

1281
01:09:22,491 --> 01:09:24,785
and talk to Marty and show off for Marty.

1282
01:09:24,869 --> 01:09:26,537
Take that off you, Sawyer!

1283
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:29,415
-That's mine!
-Now wait a second. Lucy, Ethel?

1284
01:09:29,498 --> 01:09:31,417
Lucy! Ethel!

1285
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:33,210
I will still be… Oh!

1286
01:09:33,294 --> 01:09:35,963
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
If you're ever…

1287
01:09:36,046 --> 01:09:37,673
That's exactly what Ricky did.

1288
01:09:38,507 --> 01:09:40,217
Who must they love, darling?

1289
01:09:40,301 --> 01:09:42,720
It is my birthday, don't you see?

1290
01:09:42,803 --> 01:09:45,931
Well, my request is "Love only me."

1291
01:09:47,016 --> 01:09:49,518
Not your stupid parents.

1292
01:09:49,602 --> 01:09:51,353
Tom and Rita.

1293
01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:53,314
Boring!

1294
01:09:55,566 --> 01:09:58,194
And Steven and Kate.
Been there, done that.

1295
01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:03,574
He holds friendship right after family
as the most important thing.

1296
01:10:04,366 --> 01:10:08,579
We're talking about a dynamic
that is not easy to pull off,

1297
01:10:08,662 --> 01:10:14,001
where I'm best friends with the men,
and Steven's best friends with the women.

1298
01:10:14,084 --> 01:10:16,253
-So it made it really…
-Mm-hmm.

1299
01:10:16,337 --> 01:10:19,423
Didn't you make a movie about that, Larry?

1300
01:10:19,924 --> 01:10:22,384
Marty! Marty! Come on,
you gotta do this dance.

1301
01:10:28,682 --> 01:10:29,808
Now just like…

1302
01:10:29,892 --> 01:10:33,270
I could never keep up with the repartee

1303
01:10:33,354 --> 01:10:37,650
between Tom and Marty and Walter.

1304
01:10:37,733 --> 01:10:41,528
So what I resorted to was my video camera.

1305
01:10:41,612 --> 01:10:44,865
These are the bloody footprints
from the last dive.

1306
01:10:44,949 --> 01:10:46,408
Look at the evidence.

1307
01:10:46,492 --> 01:10:48,702
Marty and Tom got this idea.

1308
01:10:48,786 --> 01:10:53,082
"Hey, let's do that scene
from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid."

1309
01:10:56,877 --> 01:10:59,880
This is very sad, I must say,
'cause we're gonna be killed, you know.

1310
01:10:59,964 --> 01:11:02,216
Just get ready to shoot the bad guys.

1311
01:11:02,299 --> 01:11:05,177
There's only one way out.
So we should jump, I must say.

1312
01:11:05,261 --> 01:11:06,887
I know, we'll get shot.

1313
01:11:06,971 --> 01:11:07,930
So let's go.

1314
01:11:09,807 --> 01:11:11,517
-I'll jump first.
-Nope.

1315
01:11:12,059 --> 01:11:13,477
-Then you jump first.
-No, I said!

1316
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,146
-What's the matter with you?
-I can't swim!

1317
01:11:24,029 --> 01:11:27,074
What, are you crazy?
The fall will probably kill ya.

1318
01:11:27,157 --> 01:11:31,996
Mama always said jumping off cliffs
is like a box of chocolates.

1319
01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:35,040
-You never know what you might get.
-...might get. Yeah, you're right.

1320
01:11:35,124 --> 01:11:37,668
-Come on, Forrest.
-I can't swim.

1321
01:11:40,045 --> 01:11:41,588
Oh, that's very funny.

1322
01:11:41,672 --> 01:11:45,050
For heaven's sakes,
the fall will kill us, I must say.

1323
01:11:47,011 --> 01:11:48,971
Oh shit!

1324
01:11:49,054 --> 01:11:51,765
-Oh shit!
-Oh shit!

1325
01:12:00,524 --> 01:12:03,902
Now we go out and about with Jiminy Glick.

1326
01:12:04,570 --> 01:12:08,907
We have a wonderful full-fledged icon
to interview.

1327
01:12:08,991 --> 01:12:11,493
Steven Spielberg's with us. Hi, Steven.

1328
01:12:11,577 --> 01:12:14,413
-Hello, Jiminy, nice to see you.
-Have you won an Oscar?

1329
01:12:14,913 --> 01:12:16,498
-Yes, sir.
-How come?

1330
01:12:17,082 --> 01:12:21,003
And then… And you've made so many films.
When are you gonna do the big one?

1331
01:12:22,004 --> 01:12:24,965
Wow. How… What do you mean, big one?

1332
01:12:25,049 --> 01:12:27,134
Something that clicks with the public.

1333
01:12:27,217 --> 01:12:29,595
Yeah. I'd love to see it
'cause I think you're good.

1334
01:12:31,013 --> 01:12:33,974
Jiminy Glick, a legend in his own mind.

1335
01:12:34,058 --> 01:12:36,894
An interviewer far beyond interviewers.

1336
01:12:36,977 --> 01:12:40,272
He asks questions nobody wants to answer.

1337
01:12:40,773 --> 01:12:42,608
-Would you like a donut?
-I would love a donut.

1338
01:12:44,276 --> 01:12:45,778
Oh!

1339
01:12:45,861 --> 01:12:47,488
Stupid COVID!

1340
01:12:47,571 --> 01:12:48,655
Here you go.

1341
01:12:48,739 --> 01:12:53,786
You know, the premise is bad interviewer
who doesn't know much about the person.

1342
01:12:53,869 --> 01:12:55,913
You're confusing me
with the actor Michael Keaton,

1343
01:12:55,996 --> 01:12:58,123
who is an acquaintance of mine,
who is also a very good actor.

1344
01:12:58,207 --> 01:13:01,919
In fact, your styles are totally different
because Keaton is very realistic.

1345
01:13:02,503 --> 01:13:05,589
And you tend to do
that kind of, "Oh, say what?"

1346
01:13:05,672 --> 01:13:08,425
Which is wonderful.
Hold on, please. Someone's…

1347
01:13:08,926 --> 01:13:09,802
Hello?

1348
01:13:10,594 --> 01:13:11,637
Oh, hi, Dixie.

1349
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,182
He can be that fearless
in saying negative things

1350
01:13:15,265 --> 01:13:17,101
that are close to home,

1351
01:13:17,184 --> 01:13:20,104
and the people he's interviewing
can be laughing.

1352
01:13:20,187 --> 01:13:21,730
Just 'cause the eyes are so dull

1353
01:13:21,814 --> 01:13:25,943
doesn't mean that there's not
a machinery of wheels clicking away.

1354
01:13:26,026 --> 01:13:27,903
I was hoping for an A-lister,

1355
01:13:27,986 --> 01:13:31,240
but I'm thrilled to have you, Bill… Hader.

1356
01:13:31,323 --> 01:13:34,618
-It's not really a star's name, is it?
-No.

1357
01:13:34,701 --> 01:13:37,704
-No, like Leo DiCaprio captures you.
-Yes. That's true.

1358
01:13:37,788 --> 01:13:40,624
But Bill Hader sounds like a guy
who would do inside windows.

1359
01:13:42,084 --> 01:13:45,921
You really see what Marty thinks
of a career in show business.

1360
01:13:46,004 --> 01:13:48,382
-When does the film come out?
-July 11th.

1361
01:13:48,465 --> 01:13:49,842
Oh, I'm gonna be away.

1362
01:13:49,925 --> 01:13:52,136
You get a lot of bad reviews.

1363
01:13:52,219 --> 01:13:55,889
How does that make you feel
and how do you handle it, Steve Martin?

1364
01:13:55,973 --> 01:13:58,308
Well, first of all, you know,
a lot of people get bad reviews.

1365
01:13:58,392 --> 01:14:00,227
Charlie Chaplin got bad reviews.

1366
01:14:00,310 --> 01:14:01,437
Mm-mm.

1367
01:14:02,020 --> 01:14:03,522
Buster Keaton got bad reviews.

1368
01:14:03,605 --> 01:14:07,401
No, not really.
Not… not… not on the level you get them.

1369
01:14:07,901 --> 01:14:11,113
I was always fascinated
by morons with power.

1370
01:14:11,196 --> 01:14:14,741
You flip around daytime television,
and there's a person with a show.

1371
01:14:14,825 --> 01:14:17,202
They've got assistants,
and that assistant's sweating

1372
01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:19,580
because their tuna fish sandwich was late.

1373
01:14:19,663 --> 01:14:22,040
And, "What kind of tuna fish is this?"

1374
01:14:22,124 --> 01:14:23,417
Wonderful. Call you back.

1375
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,587
-Hi. Leah, and how are you doing?
-How are you today, Mr. Glick?

1376
01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:29,923
Yellow highlighters I don't like
because they're not fun.

1377
01:14:30,007 --> 01:14:32,593
I wanted to create a character
who would go to junkets.

1378
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:35,137
I'd made a film called Pure Luck

1379
01:14:35,220 --> 01:14:38,891
where I was stung by a bee
and I had a reaction.

1380
01:14:39,516 --> 01:14:43,020
And I remember Nancy was on the set,
saying, "I cannot see you in there."

1381
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,980
And I loved that.

1382
01:14:45,063 --> 01:14:46,773
And the Emmys were coming up.

1383
01:14:47,274 --> 01:14:48,650
Hi, this is Jiminy Glick

1384
01:14:48,734 --> 01:14:50,736
of Jiminy Glick's Lalawood.

1385
01:14:50,819 --> 01:14:53,572
And I am so excited
to be at the Emmy Awards.

1386
01:14:53,655 --> 01:14:57,576
I wanted to go out and honestly…
And not be seen as myself.

1387
01:14:57,659 --> 01:15:00,245
I'm talking with John Legworth… Lig… Lock…

1388
01:15:00,329 --> 01:15:02,039
-John. Just John.
-Lockwo…

1389
01:15:02,122 --> 01:15:03,540
You used to do circus work.

1390
01:15:03,624 --> 01:15:05,125
I was a freak for a while.

1391
01:15:05,209 --> 01:15:07,669
And often people wear stilts doing that,
but you didn't need them.

1392
01:15:07,753 --> 01:15:10,589
I didn't need them.
I'm a big, gangly freak. And what…

1393
01:15:11,173 --> 01:15:13,592
That tastes actually nice. What's on that?

1394
01:15:13,675 --> 01:15:16,512
It's great to see you again.
You look like you've lost a lot of weight.

1395
01:15:16,595 --> 01:15:19,348
Well, I've had liposuction
from every possible opening.

1396
01:15:19,431 --> 01:15:23,852
I feel like he could improvise
Jiminy Glick to eternity.

1397
01:15:23,936 --> 01:15:24,895
Couldn't he?

1398
01:15:24,978 --> 01:15:26,438
-You…
-Yes?

1399
01:15:26,522 --> 01:15:27,648
…are a special spirit.

1400
01:15:27,731 --> 01:15:29,816
Thank you very much.

1401
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:31,985
Oh, I hadn't heard the laugh yet.

1402
01:15:32,486 --> 01:15:35,572
He's got his highs,
and then he's got his lows.

1403
01:15:36,073 --> 01:15:41,078
And he never fails
to come up with the right word

1404
01:15:41,161 --> 01:15:44,164
when he hits his lows.

1405
01:15:44,248 --> 01:15:46,583
You know? Kinko-Belobo.

1406
01:15:46,667 --> 01:15:48,418
Oh my God, I don't think that's true.

1407
01:15:48,502 --> 01:15:50,546
It's real Dada entertainment.

1408
01:15:50,629 --> 01:15:54,383
It's real, like, this is all bullshit,

1409
01:15:54,466 --> 01:15:58,554
and our career is
sitting across from a buffoon like this.

1410
01:15:58,637 --> 01:16:00,472
-Thanks.
-Interview over, man. Done deal.

1411
01:16:00,556 --> 01:16:02,182
Oh my God.

1412
01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:03,892
Someone phone a replacement.

1413
01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:06,562
It's a really punk rock character.

1414
01:16:07,145 --> 01:16:09,565
What's your big beef with the Nazis?

1415
01:16:10,566 --> 01:16:12,109
What's my big beef?

1416
01:16:12,192 --> 01:16:15,112
-It seems you're always knocking--
-What's my big beef?

1417
01:16:15,195 --> 01:16:17,030
You're always knocking the Nazis.
"Oh, let's…"

1418
01:16:17,114 --> 01:16:21,159
It's… it's time for Mel Brooks
to knock the Nazis, it seems.

1419
01:16:21,660 --> 01:16:23,495
You don't want the headlines, do you?

1420
01:16:23,579 --> 01:16:26,498
I don't want it, and yet,
when I'm home and I see…

1421
01:16:26,582 --> 01:16:27,416
When I'm--

1422
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:30,961
But there's such subtlety

1423
01:16:32,004 --> 01:16:33,338
with… with Jiminy too.

1424
01:16:33,422 --> 01:16:36,341
That soft side, that empathetic side,

1425
01:16:36,425 --> 01:16:38,802
and… and just the… the levels.

1426
01:16:38,885 --> 01:16:41,888
Every level of comedy
is there with Jiminy.

1427
01:16:41,972 --> 01:16:44,975
You have to keep constantly
making it interesting for yourself.

1428
01:16:45,058 --> 01:16:47,603
What you have to do is just say,
"This will be fun to me."

1429
01:16:47,686 --> 01:16:50,480
"I look forward to doing this.
This will make me want to work."

1430
01:16:50,564 --> 01:16:53,442
"I wanna show my friends this show."
That's what you want to do.

1431
01:16:53,942 --> 01:16:56,445
This has been absolutely so much fun.

1432
01:16:56,528 --> 01:17:01,325
This is the craziest fucking interview
I've ever done in my life.

1433
01:17:08,999 --> 01:17:12,461
It's Christmas 2003.

1434
01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:17,090
Fourteen-year-old Henry Short
has done the tree basically this year.

1435
01:17:17,841 --> 01:17:18,842
Yeah, looks good.

1436
01:17:19,343 --> 01:17:20,969
-Like that?
-Uh-huh.

1437
01:17:22,387 --> 01:17:23,722
We always have a Christmas party
at our house,

1438
01:17:23,805 --> 01:17:25,265
and people get up and perform.

1439
01:17:25,349 --> 01:17:30,896
It's the most wonderful time
Of the year

1440
01:17:32,272 --> 01:17:35,776
It's the hap… happiest season of all

1441
01:17:35,859 --> 01:17:37,152
Is anybody else here?

1442
01:17:37,653 --> 01:17:40,656
Marty, who's doing his thing
to open the show,

1443
01:17:40,739 --> 01:17:45,202
and then commenting on what you did
when you left,

1444
01:17:45,285 --> 01:17:47,037
as if you didn't feel bad enough.

1445
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,789
Who remembers Home Alone?

1446
01:17:50,832 --> 01:17:52,793
And I'm sure there's been others.

1447
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,097
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Danny Aykroyd.

1448
01:18:05,597 --> 01:18:07,474
And I'm Glenn Frey, the happy Eagle.

1449
01:18:08,975 --> 01:18:11,353
The bells will be ringin'…

1450
01:18:12,729 --> 01:18:15,774
The sad, sad news

1451
01:18:16,775 --> 01:18:18,151
Sally Field, ladies and gentlemen.

1452
01:18:18,819 --> 01:18:20,237
-Oh!
-There we go.

1453
01:18:22,155 --> 01:18:23,240
There we go.

1454
01:18:23,323 --> 01:18:24,950
Sally Field, ladies and gentlemen.

1455
01:18:25,033 --> 01:18:28,829
Well, we have the ultimate jerk here.
Steve Martin is with us.

1456
01:18:29,329 --> 01:18:31,248
It was a little bit of work.

1457
01:18:31,331 --> 01:18:35,460
One time, I spent six months learning
how to play "Auld Lang Syne" on the banjo.

1458
01:18:35,544 --> 01:18:38,171
Well, now, I gotta think
of a fucking song to sing.

1459
01:18:38,255 --> 01:18:41,049
I just can't go
and have some macaroni and cheese

1460
01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:42,926
like normal people.

1461
01:18:43,009 --> 01:18:45,011
I gotta hire a vocal coach.

1462
01:18:47,764 --> 01:18:49,474
May your days…

1463
01:18:49,558 --> 01:18:53,562
The Christmas party had become so
popular, it got too big for their house.

1464
01:18:53,645 --> 01:18:57,065
I said, "Nancy,
how are you gonna cull the list?"

1465
01:18:57,149 --> 01:19:01,069
She goes, "Honey, if they don't know
my kids' names, they ain't coming."

1466
01:19:01,153 --> 01:19:05,991
Christmases be white

1467
01:19:07,492 --> 01:19:08,952
The storm is coming.

1468
01:19:20,672 --> 01:19:22,340
It's… it's coming.

1469
01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:28,096
Did you hear that?

1470
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,184
Should I pick the kids up?

1471
01:19:32,976 --> 01:19:35,270
Yeah, I don't want Ollie driving now.

1472
01:19:35,771 --> 01:19:36,813
Yeah, okay.

1473
01:19:37,981 --> 01:19:39,483
So you better phone.

1474
01:19:40,275 --> 01:19:42,569
Well, maybe we should just have dinner
at the club then.

1475
01:19:42,652 --> 01:19:45,530
-Let's do that.
-All right. Can you phone and see?

1476
01:19:45,614 --> 01:19:46,823
Oh my God!

1477
01:19:47,324 --> 01:19:50,952
Oh my dear Lord in heaven. I…

1478
01:19:51,036 --> 01:19:52,954
This isn't really what I look like.

1479
01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:54,790
Nancy.

1480
01:19:54,873 --> 01:19:56,750
Get the phone!

1481
01:19:57,667 --> 01:20:00,879
I… I heard a shrink talk once
that said certain couples

1482
01:20:01,546 --> 01:20:03,757
relate directly to each other.

1483
01:20:04,257 --> 01:20:07,093
And certain couples relate through things.

1484
01:20:08,303 --> 01:20:10,639
And they just relate in a different way.

1485
01:20:11,348 --> 01:20:13,141
And they related like this.

1486
01:20:14,851 --> 01:20:18,188
She thought everything
he said was hilarious.

1487
01:20:18,730 --> 01:20:21,817
And it was a sincere laughter.

1488
01:20:23,902 --> 01:20:25,737
It wasn't like a wife doing it.

1489
01:20:25,821 --> 01:20:28,240
It was like a person laughing.

1490
01:20:28,323 --> 01:20:30,116
You know, "Tell that story again."

1491
01:20:32,035 --> 01:20:34,204
She was his biggest fan.

1492
01:20:34,287 --> 01:20:38,625
Nothing is more touching when you
look back at the videos that he has.

1493
01:20:39,292 --> 01:20:43,088
And the camera looks at her watching him,

1494
01:20:43,588 --> 01:20:46,341
and her laughing uncontrollably.

1495
01:20:47,092 --> 01:20:48,385
Not to fill his ego.

1496
01:20:48,468 --> 01:20:51,388
Just because she felt he was genuinely

1497
01:20:51,888 --> 01:20:53,640
the best in her book.

1498
01:20:56,393 --> 01:20:58,520
It's mother doing the daddy dance.

1499
01:21:01,773 --> 01:21:03,608
I can't do it like you.
What's the other one?

1500
01:21:03,692 --> 01:21:04,693
What's the other one? Oh.

1501
01:21:06,236 --> 01:21:09,489
In 2007, she thought she had a hernia.

1502
01:21:09,573 --> 01:21:10,907
She went to a doctor, and he said,

1503
01:21:10,991 --> 01:21:14,286
"I think it's a hernia,
but we should have it s… scanned."

1504
01:21:14,369 --> 01:21:17,998
And it was scanned,
and it turned out to be an ovarian cyst.

1505
01:21:18,081 --> 01:21:21,585
Of course, then someone picked up a phone
and phoned the National Enquirer.

1506
01:21:21,668 --> 01:21:23,503
So it was all in the National Enquirer.

1507
01:21:23,587 --> 01:21:26,256
Bernie Brillstein phoned me up,
my manager, and said,

1508
01:21:26,339 --> 01:21:28,592
"Hey, kid, two things. Um…"

1509
01:21:29,092 --> 01:21:31,511
"Bad news is
it's on page three of the Enquirer."

1510
01:21:31,595 --> 01:21:33,138
"Good news. It's a very nice picture."

1511
01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:37,976
A couple of days later, we had a scan.
It was proved to be cancer.

1512
01:21:43,231 --> 01:21:45,191
He was doing some work during that time.

1513
01:21:45,275 --> 01:21:48,153
And the family and Nancy
and everybody says,

1514
01:21:48,236 --> 01:21:51,364
"You're not gonna stop doing your work
because this thing is going to…

1515
01:21:51,448 --> 01:21:54,993
this malady is going to, uh,
you know, do its damage."

1516
01:21:55,744 --> 01:21:58,663
At one point, I did have to go
and shoot Damages.

1517
01:21:58,747 --> 01:22:01,041
My clients aren't guilty of anything.

1518
01:22:01,124 --> 01:22:04,794
No one knew what was going on.
And Glenn would say, "Marty's here!"

1519
01:22:04,878 --> 01:22:08,381
I'd go, "Yeah, just give me a second
in the dressing room."

1520
01:22:12,844 --> 01:22:14,554
They came over for dinner at our cottage.

1521
01:22:15,138 --> 01:22:17,599
And Nancy said, "Come into the bedroom.
I wanna talk to you."

1522
01:22:17,682 --> 01:22:20,727
So of course, I went…
…into my bedroom with Nancy

1523
01:22:20,810 --> 01:22:21,978
'cause she told me to.

1524
01:22:22,062 --> 01:22:26,191
And she said, "Well, I have cancer."
And told me what was going on.

1525
01:22:26,733 --> 01:22:29,819
"Okay." "And it's gonna be fine."
And just told me the facts.

1526
01:22:29,903 --> 01:22:32,447
"Okay, I just wanted you to know." "Okay."

1527
01:22:32,530 --> 01:22:34,074
Then we go back to dinner.

1528
01:22:35,283 --> 01:22:38,536
You're kind of hoping
everything works out.

1529
01:22:38,620 --> 01:22:42,582
At the time,
we didn't know in the very beginning.

1530
01:22:43,083 --> 01:22:44,542
At a certain point,

1531
01:22:44,626 --> 01:22:47,170
we kind of knew
that it wasn't gonna work out.

1532
01:22:50,632 --> 01:22:52,550
To Nancy's credit,

1533
01:22:52,634 --> 01:22:56,429
just because she was the way she was,

1534
01:22:56,513 --> 01:22:58,807
fearless, deter…

1535
01:22:58,890 --> 01:23:01,059
You know her. Determined.

1536
01:23:02,644 --> 01:23:03,520
Um…

1537
01:23:04,062 --> 01:23:05,271
A fighter.

1538
01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:08,650
The chick could do anything, okay?
She could do anything.

1539
01:23:08,733 --> 01:23:10,193
Her attitude was,

1540
01:23:10,276 --> 01:23:14,364
"Cancer, whatever.
This is how I'm gonna live my life."

1541
01:23:15,740 --> 01:23:18,451
Through a lot of pain,
she was playing tennis.

1542
01:23:18,535 --> 01:23:20,787
I was up at Snug Harbour when it was…

1543
01:23:21,705 --> 01:23:25,166
It was the summer where she died
in September.

1544
01:23:25,667 --> 01:23:27,460
-Hi, darling.
-Hey, baby.

1545
01:23:27,544 --> 01:23:29,337
-We're having fun.
-Beautiful.

1546
01:23:29,421 --> 01:23:31,631
We just tried to work off her vibe.

1547
01:23:31,715 --> 01:23:34,134
She set the tone, and we followed.

1548
01:23:34,926 --> 01:23:37,220
She tended to be positive in general.

1549
01:23:37,721 --> 01:23:40,974
So when she got sick,
her approach was, "I can fight it."

1550
01:23:41,057 --> 01:23:44,769
And if they'd give her…
She'd be on a new cocktail of chemo.

1551
01:23:44,853 --> 01:23:46,896
She'd say to everyone, "I'm cured."

1552
01:23:46,980 --> 01:23:49,566
She went to the Internet once,
read about it, and said,

1553
01:23:49,649 --> 01:23:51,151
"I'm not gonna do that anymore."

1554
01:23:51,234 --> 01:23:52,652
She didn't wanna know.

1555
01:23:52,736 --> 01:23:56,948
She just wanted to just keep going
until she couldn't.

1556
01:23:57,532 --> 01:24:00,910
And he was a perfect partner
because he let her.

1557
01:24:00,994 --> 01:24:03,288
It was extraordinary to watch.

1558
01:24:07,876 --> 01:24:09,044
Sing it, Nan.

1559
01:24:09,127 --> 01:24:11,880
Ooh, unforgettable…

1560
01:24:11,963 --> 01:24:14,299
Unforgettable

1561
01:24:14,382 --> 01:24:17,135
In every way…

1562
01:24:17,218 --> 01:24:20,680
In every way

1563
01:24:21,181 --> 01:24:23,391
And forever more…

1564
01:24:23,475 --> 01:24:26,144
And forever more

1565
01:24:26,227 --> 01:24:28,104
That's how you'll stay…

1566
01:24:28,188 --> 01:24:32,233
That's how you'll stay

1567
01:24:32,317 --> 01:24:38,907
That's why, darling It's incredible

1568
01:24:39,407 --> 01:24:44,037
That someone so unforgettable

1569
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:50,460
Thinks that I am unforgettable

1570
01:24:50,543 --> 01:24:55,548
Too

1571
01:25:05,225 --> 01:25:10,021
Steve Martin wrote a melody
for Nancy Short, who died a year ago.

1572
01:25:10,105 --> 01:25:13,650
I, uh, dedicated it
to my friend Marty Short's…

1573
01:25:16,277 --> 01:25:17,737
I'm sorry. It's okay.

1574
01:25:17,821 --> 01:25:18,655
Sorry.

1575
01:25:19,155 --> 01:25:20,448
Come on, I'll play it for you.

1576
01:25:31,292 --> 01:25:37,298
Like any family, it's just a simple fact
that loss is something to negotiate.

1577
01:25:38,216 --> 01:25:40,969
It's going to happen to all of us,
and we must celebrate

1578
01:25:41,052 --> 01:25:43,888
and continue that voice
and never let it go.

1579
01:25:45,849 --> 01:25:49,978
I couldn't imagine Marty without Nancy.

1580
01:25:50,061 --> 01:25:51,229
Yeah.

1581
01:25:51,312 --> 01:25:53,690
How's he gonna be able
to go on without her?

1582
01:25:53,773 --> 01:25:55,775
How's he gonna be able
to be funny without her?

1583
01:25:58,736 --> 01:26:01,990
He first threw himself into
his children's lives. Into his family.

1584
01:26:02,073 --> 01:26:03,992
Then he threw himself into his work.

1585
01:26:06,828 --> 01:26:08,663
I looked at Marty, and I thought,

1586
01:26:08,746 --> 01:26:11,666
"He's going through it again.
Jesus Christ."

1587
01:26:12,417 --> 01:26:13,585
"Give me a break."

1588
01:26:14,836 --> 01:26:17,297
We'll have full-on conversations
about Nancy now.

1589
01:26:17,380 --> 01:26:19,799
I mean, we… we don't skirt around her.

1590
01:26:19,883 --> 01:26:22,927
Sometimes when he's on the phone
and he'll be talking about it,

1591
01:26:23,011 --> 01:26:26,890
and I won't agree with him, and I'll say,
"Put Nancy on the phone," you know.

1592
01:26:27,390 --> 01:26:30,059
"'Cause you know what?
She'd have a different opinion here."

1593
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,355
He handled it with
a sense of humor, looked for the laughs.

1594
01:26:34,981 --> 01:26:37,692
I hope you're telling everyone
how important laughter is.

1595
01:26:39,611 --> 01:26:43,406
I was trying to help him.
You try to make sure they're okay.

1596
01:26:44,032 --> 01:26:45,158
Hi, video.

1597
01:26:45,241 --> 01:26:47,577
Until they can stand
on their own two feet.

1598
01:26:48,536 --> 01:26:49,829
I remember he was working a lot.

1599
01:26:49,913 --> 01:26:51,956
Holiday time

1600
01:26:52,457 --> 01:26:54,042
What are you doing?

1601
01:26:54,542 --> 01:26:57,212
He did share that when he was on the road,

1602
01:26:57,295 --> 01:27:00,006
that's when he was without Nancy normally.

1603
01:27:00,506 --> 01:27:03,509
So the loss actually was
a little less tangible

1604
01:27:03,593 --> 01:27:04,886
when he was out there working,

1605
01:27:04,969 --> 01:27:07,222
as opposed to being home
and being home alone.

1606
01:27:07,305 --> 01:27:09,974
I don't know what he would do
if he wasn't on the move.

1607
01:27:10,058 --> 01:27:15,313
I think he would think it'd be
a disservice to Nancy if he went down.

1608
01:27:15,396 --> 01:27:17,398
I was gonna have this meeting with him.

1609
01:27:17,482 --> 01:27:20,276
And I wasn't really aware
that he had lost his wife

1610
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,779
within the past few years at that time.

1611
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,283
You're… you're looking
at someone's true half gone.

1612
01:27:27,367 --> 01:27:31,371
That's how Lorne Michaels explained to me
what kind of a loss that was.

1613
01:27:31,454 --> 01:27:34,999
I was trying to do
one of those stupid live audience sitcoms,

1614
01:27:35,083 --> 01:27:36,834
but in a weird way.

1615
01:27:36,918 --> 01:27:39,462
And border on corny,

1616
01:27:39,545 --> 01:27:40,797
but not be.

1617
01:27:41,881 --> 01:27:45,802
My decorator was going for feng shui,
but I just wanted to Wang Chung.

1618
01:27:50,139 --> 01:27:53,017
She lives! She's alive!

1619
01:27:53,101 --> 01:27:54,602
Sometimes I'd write for him.

1620
01:27:54,686 --> 01:27:56,771
He'd say to me, "Well, this is stupid."

1621
01:27:56,854 --> 01:28:00,483
I'd be like, "Isn't the smartest thing
to do something really stupid?"

1622
01:28:00,566 --> 01:28:04,737
He'd go, "Well, why don't I just put on
a big red wig and run in circles?"

1623
01:28:04,821 --> 01:28:07,615
And some part of me was like,
"Oh, would you do that?"

1624
01:28:08,283 --> 01:28:10,994
Something about
what I was trying to do didn't translate.

1625
01:28:11,077 --> 01:28:16,165
I think I ran into him in the hall
when reviews and numbers were not good.

1626
01:28:16,249 --> 01:28:20,712
And he just grabbed me and said,
"John, this is what it is."

1627
01:28:20,795 --> 01:28:23,673
He goes, "98% of it is failure."

1628
01:28:24,257 --> 01:28:27,885
And he meant it sincerely.
Like, he goes, "This is what the job is."

1629
01:28:28,761 --> 01:28:31,306
Nothing works, then something works.

1630
01:28:31,889 --> 01:28:37,895
Marty is busier and in more demand now
than he ever has been.

1631
01:28:39,856 --> 01:28:44,527
He's responsible for this thing that
has made streaming television history.

1632
01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:48,406
He goes off and has these shows
that he puts on with Steve.

1633
01:28:49,532 --> 01:28:53,411
That is not coming out of a desire
to stay on top,

1634
01:28:53,911 --> 01:28:57,290
or to fill his coffers,
or to stay relevant.

1635
01:28:57,373 --> 01:28:58,833
It's got none of that.

1636
01:28:58,916 --> 01:29:00,084
Marty is doing it

1637
01:29:00,168 --> 01:29:03,212
because the opportunity is there
to have a blast.

1638
01:29:08,009 --> 01:29:09,886
Stop loving me!

1639
01:29:10,803 --> 01:29:13,931
Thank you. I'm your guest host
for the week, Martin Short.

1640
01:29:15,016 --> 01:29:16,893
Oh, hi there.

1641
01:29:17,894 --> 01:29:20,313
I'm actor, comedian, philanthropist,

1642
01:29:20,396 --> 01:29:23,566
and award-winning
adult film star Martin Short.

1643
01:29:24,067 --> 01:29:27,820
People always ask me, "Marty,
how do you have so much energy?"

1644
01:29:27,904 --> 01:29:31,532
Usually I tell those people,
"Get the f*** away from me! Thanks."

1645
01:29:36,412 --> 01:29:38,081
I'm putting you on speaker.

1646
01:29:38,831 --> 01:29:41,501
-Yeah?
-Hey, it's Steve Martin, everyone.

1647
01:29:41,584 --> 01:29:42,752
Hi, Marty.

1648
01:29:42,835 --> 01:29:43,795
Hi, Steve.

1649
01:29:43,878 --> 01:29:47,173
I'm calling to say I don't like you

1650
01:29:47,256 --> 01:29:49,717
or the people you hang around with.

1651
01:29:53,429 --> 01:29:56,057
And you felt you had to phone
and tell me that?

1652
01:29:56,140 --> 01:29:58,726
No, and I'm telling you,
I hope you're not recording this.

1653
01:29:58,810 --> 01:30:00,686
No, no, we're not. Absolutely not.

1654
01:30:00,770 --> 01:30:02,522
Okay, enough. We're bombing, by the way.

1655
01:30:03,022 --> 01:30:04,524
-Yeah, we're bombing.
-I know.

1656
01:30:05,733 --> 01:30:08,111
We all know,
whether you're in show business or not,

1657
01:30:08,194 --> 01:30:10,363
that you can have a friend
you don't see for a year,

1658
01:30:10,446 --> 01:30:13,157
and you get back together
and it's just like butter.

1659
01:30:13,241 --> 01:30:14,325
Congratulations.

1660
01:30:14,909 --> 01:30:16,536
Remember what we did in that movie?

1661
01:30:17,912 --> 01:30:19,372
Gee, do you think it could work?

1662
01:30:19,455 --> 01:30:20,790
It's got to work.

1663
01:30:20,873 --> 01:30:23,751
We did this comedy festival
where we interview each other.

1664
01:30:23,835 --> 01:30:24,669
I have a question.

1665
01:30:24,752 --> 01:30:27,213
You do something I don't.
You do impressions and…

1666
01:30:32,969 --> 01:30:36,764
We thought, "Why don't we do it again?"
And I knew Marty had a solo show.

1667
01:30:37,765 --> 01:30:42,311
And I had a… a show with a band.
A comedy music show.

1668
01:30:42,395 --> 01:30:45,106
And I thought, "Maybe we'll try it.
We'll blend it."

1669
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:48,651
Steve and I called this show,
If We'd Saved, We Wouldn't Be Here.

1670
01:30:49,652 --> 01:30:52,697
You know what I love
about touring around with Marty Short?

1671
01:30:52,780 --> 01:30:54,115
No paparazzi.

1672
01:30:56,576 --> 01:31:00,997
Is there any trepidation at all
when you come out and start the show?

1673
01:31:01,581 --> 01:31:02,665
-None.
-None.

1674
01:31:03,749 --> 01:31:05,376
Isn't that a boring answer?

1675
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:09,297
I'm a little more, uh, nervous
than Marty is. Marty is extremely relaxed.

1676
01:31:09,380 --> 01:31:12,925
-And the reason he is more nervous--
-I care.

1677
01:31:13,009 --> 01:31:14,760
-I'm relaxed… Same joke.
-Yeah.

1678
01:31:14,844 --> 01:31:18,306
Which has kept me out of the big money
because Steve actually cares.

1679
01:31:18,389 --> 01:31:20,892
When I think of Steve, and it's not often,

1680
01:31:20,975 --> 01:31:22,602
but when I do,

1681
01:31:22,685 --> 01:31:25,730
the one thing that strikes me more
than anything else about you

1682
01:31:25,813 --> 01:31:29,484
is how unbelievably pale
you are in person.

1683
01:31:30,860 --> 01:31:32,570
Like I'm being haunted, you know?

1684
01:31:32,653 --> 01:31:36,032
You look like Anderson Cooper
froze to death on New Year's Eve.

1685
01:31:38,034 --> 01:31:41,162
You know that sort of
insult premise that we have?

1686
01:31:41,245 --> 01:31:43,789
He was the first one to do that.

1687
01:31:44,415 --> 01:31:48,503
And I thought, "Oh, that's kind of fun."

1688
01:31:49,587 --> 01:31:52,965
And so I'd start to learn to do it back,
and he'd do it.

1689
01:31:53,049 --> 01:31:57,678
And… and that became a way to converse.

1690
01:31:57,762 --> 01:32:00,556
And then I noticed, when we started doing
Only Murders in the Building,

1691
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,809
and we're working with Selena,
who's a person we didn't know…

1692
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:07,271
Marty and I have
this little rapport thing going on

1693
01:32:07,355 --> 01:32:10,858
to sort of kill time between setups.

1694
01:32:11,359 --> 01:32:15,238
And a couple of years go by, and then I
notice Selena starts doing it.

1695
01:32:17,156 --> 01:32:19,825
-Oh, how did you get here?
-It was open.

1696
01:32:19,909 --> 01:32:21,494
I don't lock my door. Never have.

1697
01:32:21,577 --> 01:32:23,120
-That's insane.
-It's neighborly.

1698
01:32:23,204 --> 01:32:25,289
A murderer probably lives in the building.

1699
01:32:25,373 --> 01:32:29,252
But I guess old white guys are only afraid
of colon cancer and societal change.

1700
01:32:29,835 --> 01:32:30,670
Sad.

1701
01:32:31,170 --> 01:32:34,090
Marty says, "I can't believe
that we get to do this."

1702
01:32:34,173 --> 01:32:36,551
"I get to go hang out with funny people

1703
01:32:36,634 --> 01:32:39,595
and laugh all through all rehearsals."

1704
01:32:40,096 --> 01:32:45,101
Steve feels that this is a moment.

1705
01:32:45,184 --> 01:32:46,602
So much for the moment.

1706
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:49,981
Come around to yourself now, Marty.

1707
01:32:51,232 --> 01:32:53,359
-I was covering the camera.
-Camera was covered.

1708
01:32:53,442 --> 01:32:56,320
Marty and I like honing in on a… a joke

1709
01:32:56,404 --> 01:32:58,155
to get it more and more precise.

1710
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:01,284
So it's almost exact.

1711
01:33:01,367 --> 01:33:04,453
And then within that exactness,
there are variations.

1712
01:33:04,537 --> 01:33:05,371
Huh?

1713
01:33:05,871 --> 01:33:07,707
Oh my God, Mayberry.

1714
01:33:09,333 --> 01:33:11,294
-Well, that's not bad.
-Yeah, yeah.

1715
01:33:11,794 --> 01:33:15,339
-You know, to say something--
-R.F.D.

1716
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,345
Well, what about, "Oh My God, Opie?" Or…

1717
01:33:22,305 --> 01:33:23,598
Richie Cunningham?

1718
01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:25,975
That was his character in Happy Days.

1719
01:33:26,058 --> 01:33:29,020
But I think it… it steps
on your Ollie and Ron-Ron.

1720
01:33:29,103 --> 01:33:31,272
I'll just go, "Huh?"

1721
01:33:32,189 --> 01:33:33,858
The A-lister. You did it.

1722
01:33:33,941 --> 01:33:35,192
-Yeah.
-Okay.

1723
01:33:35,693 --> 01:33:37,903
-From the top.
-Really?

1724
01:33:38,487 --> 01:33:40,239
I'm just thinking of this poor man.

1725
01:33:40,323 --> 01:33:41,198
I know.

1726
01:33:44,410 --> 01:33:47,038
You know,
we're gonna be friends to the end.

1727
01:33:47,538 --> 01:33:50,166
Oh, God. I'm fine. You don't need to say
anything nice about me.

1728
01:33:50,249 --> 01:33:52,668
Especially not while making eye contact.

1729
01:33:52,752 --> 01:33:55,004
What if we went behind our menus?

1730
01:33:55,504 --> 01:33:58,174
That… that c… That could work, yeah.

1731
01:33:58,841 --> 01:34:00,509
If it would make you feel better,

1732
01:34:00,593 --> 01:34:04,013
you can be my Life Alert contact
in case I fall.

1733
01:34:04,096 --> 01:34:06,265
And we can get colonoscopies together.

1734
01:34:07,725 --> 01:34:09,477
I can't ever imagine stopping.

1735
01:34:10,394 --> 01:34:13,439
And I'd like to think
I was the best version of myself

1736
01:34:13,522 --> 01:34:15,399
on the last day of my life.

1737
01:34:15,483 --> 01:34:16,692
Marty really showed me

1738
01:34:16,776 --> 01:34:19,612
that, um, it's very important
how you carry yourself

1739
01:34:19,695 --> 01:34:21,822
through all of these experiences.

1740
01:34:21,906 --> 01:34:23,741
Marty is good at life.

1741
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,298
In this business, in the world of comedy,
there's nobody faster.

1742
01:34:39,799 --> 01:34:42,051
There's nobody smarter.
There's nobody funnier.

1743
01:34:42,551 --> 01:34:47,556
He's just been born
with an ability to connect.

1744
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:52,395
You just write the word J-O-Y, joy,
and it's a steady state.

1745
01:34:52,478 --> 01:34:56,691
You know, it's like… it's like a constant.
It's the… It's the speed of light.

1746
01:34:56,774 --> 01:34:59,944
Marty operates at the speed of joy.

1747
01:35:09,036 --> 01:35:10,413
Hi, baby.

1748
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:12,707
What a glorious day!

1749
01:35:13,999 --> 01:35:16,877
Michael and Brian Short.

1750
01:35:19,046 --> 01:35:20,756
Watch out for the puddles.

1751
01:35:22,883 --> 01:35:25,136
Yes, the Levys are at Snug Harbour.

1752
01:35:26,178 --> 01:35:27,763
Wow. You know what?

1753
01:35:28,389 --> 01:35:29,849
I'm damn impressed.

1754
01:35:31,475 --> 01:35:33,728
Someone's knocking at the door

1755
01:35:34,228 --> 01:35:36,397
Somebody's ringing the bell…

1756
01:35:37,273 --> 01:35:38,858
-Hi, Marty.
-Hi, Andrea.

1757
01:35:38,941 --> 01:35:43,362
Open the door and let 'em in

1758
01:35:43,946 --> 01:35:45,239
Ooh, yeah…

1759
01:35:46,198 --> 01:35:48,117
-Hi, honey.
-Hi, honey.

1760
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,995
-You're taping me, but I'm taping you!
-Oh!

1761
01:35:53,330 --> 01:35:55,750
So this is a press conference, kids.

1762
01:35:55,833 --> 01:35:57,752
And they all love me.

1763
01:35:59,170 --> 01:36:00,379
Do me a favor

1764
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,048
Open the door and…

1765
01:36:03,132 --> 01:36:05,384
What are you doing?
Are you doing that face?

1766
01:36:05,468 --> 01:36:08,721
Yeah, let 'em in…

1767
01:36:08,804 --> 01:36:11,348
-Hello, Danny.
-Hello.

1768
01:36:11,432 --> 01:36:13,267
Well, hi, captain.

1769
01:36:13,934 --> 01:36:17,897
There's the fabulous
Catherine O'Hara. Go, baby.

1770
01:36:20,566 --> 01:36:21,859
Wow!

1771
01:36:24,570 --> 01:36:25,404
Hey, ese.

1772
01:36:25,488 --> 01:36:27,114
Oh, Dave. Grow up.

1773
01:36:27,907 --> 01:36:30,785
-Andrea, look at the ass on mother.
-So fat.

1774
01:36:30,868 --> 01:36:32,578
How's your vacation, Stevie?

1775
01:36:32,661 --> 01:36:34,121
Innkeeper, more wine.

1776
01:36:34,205 --> 01:36:35,873
Brother John

1777
01:36:36,916 --> 01:36:38,626
Martin Luther

1778
01:36:39,293 --> 01:36:41,212
Phil and Don

1779
01:36:42,338 --> 01:36:43,923
Brother Michael

1780
01:36:44,924 --> 01:36:46,759
Auntie Gin…

1781
01:36:48,135 --> 01:36:51,388
I don't think dogs like me, Marty. I don't
know why. I just don't think they like me.

1782
01:36:51,472 --> 01:36:53,390
-Really?
-Yeah, I don't really think so.

1783
01:36:53,474 --> 01:36:55,309
Well, maybe you… Let me see.

1784
01:36:57,895 --> 01:36:59,188
Go, baby, go!

1785
01:36:59,897 --> 01:37:01,857
Somebody's ringing the bell…

1786
01:37:08,113 --> 01:37:09,573
Do me a favor…

1787
01:37:10,074 --> 01:37:11,784
Happy Thanksgiving.

1788
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:16,413
Ooh, yeah, yeah…

1789
01:37:16,997 --> 01:37:17,832
Stop it.

1790
01:37:19,041 --> 01:37:21,460
Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo

1791
01:37:24,213 --> 01:37:25,214
Camera on.

1792
01:37:26,632 --> 01:37:30,386
That's all the news.
It is the news. Talk to you later.

1793
01:37:31,136 --> 01:37:33,639
And, uh… Uh…

1794
01:37:33,722 --> 01:37:35,641
So until then.

1795
01:37:36,642 --> 01:37:39,144
-Are you happy now, Dad?
-Yes.

1796
01:37:43,482 --> 01:37:47,695
Jiminy, you've interviewed
so many people. Like, everybody.

1797
01:37:47,778 --> 01:37:50,197
But you've never interviewed Martin Short.

1798
01:37:50,698 --> 01:37:52,825
No. I don't find him interesting.

1799
01:37:52,908 --> 01:37:56,453
I find people who push too hard

1800
01:37:56,537 --> 01:37:58,664
and are desperate for the approval

1801
01:37:58,747 --> 01:38:02,084
without really presenting
any reason for the approval,

1802
01:38:02,167 --> 01:38:03,836
I find it offensive.

1803
01:38:03,919 --> 01:38:06,422
Did you hear they were making
a documentary about him?

1804
01:38:06,922 --> 01:38:09,425
Yeah, well, they're making
a documentary on everyone.

1805
01:38:09,508 --> 01:38:11,760
You know, they're making a… a documentary.

1806
01:38:11,844 --> 01:38:16,181
Literally every human being that existed.

1807
01:38:16,265 --> 01:38:19,643
This is what I think.
I think that Martin Short, he…

1808
01:38:19,727 --> 01:38:24,523
There's, like, basically, three voices,
two hairstyles, and four dance moves.

1809
01:38:24,607 --> 01:38:28,277
And you can't build an empire on that.
Although somehow, he has.

1810
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,946
But I don't buy it. I don't like it.