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[Marty] It's Boxing Day,

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and it's a very beautiful day today…

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in sunny California.

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[tranquil music plays]

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-Hello, Nancy. Happy Boxing Day.
-Hi, sweetie.

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-[knocking]
-[Marty] Oh, someone's at the door.

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Oh, it's Tom!

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-Hey, Merry Christmas!
-[Marty] Oh God! Merry Chri…

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Oh, mistletoe.

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-Oh, where?
-[Marty] Right here.

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How many Christmases would this be?
'72, '92. Twenty years.

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-[Marty] Oh.
-Whoa!

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-[Marty] Too bright?
-Not for your wrinkles.

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[Marty] Then there's Dave Thomas
and Harrison Thomas.

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He's plugging his ears. Why?

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Could it be you?

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[Marty] Oh, I loved you in Home Alone!

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You were wonderful!

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Steve, how do you do?

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I'm really having fun here, Marty.
I mean that.

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[Steve] I'll tell you
something about Marty.

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Let's say you're gonna host
a dinner party,

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and you invite Marty.

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[laughter]

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And then it turns out Marty can't come.

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You cancel the party.

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[chuckles]

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[man] Look at… Look at Marty!

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[indistinct chatter]

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[laughter]

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[Marty] It's gonna be one of those
hatchet awful things that I won't promote.

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[music fades]

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It is hilarious that we have to pretend
we don't know each other.

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[man chuckles] Not at all.

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-This is based on us knowing each other.
-It is.

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[man] You and I have talked--

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Larry and I,
we have had one million dinners.

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-One million lunches.
-[Larry] That's right.

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One million passionate lunches.

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[Larry] This is
continuing the conversation.

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That's right.

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[audience laughter]

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In my business,
there's a traditional career path.

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TV, movies,

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then Broadway, your own special,

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reality show host, Chabad telethon,
dinner theater, The Palm Springs Follies,

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and then this show.

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[laughter]

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[Marty] There was no expectation
to be a star.

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There was no,

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"Mama, it's happened!"

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There was none of that.

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It's just, "There's a mortgage."

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"There are kids."

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"I'm in the greatest profession
in the world. I'm so damn lucky."

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"How do I keep it going?"

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[knocking on door]

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Why am I holding this knife?

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[laughter]

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[Marty] I work in comedy.

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And I do a particular kind of comedy.

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-Here comes Uncle Jack. Shoot me!
-Agh!

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[Marty] It's sketch-oriented,
character-oriented.

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Not many jokes.

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If you were to read a script
that I've written,

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there's not many jokes in it.

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It's all… You just have to trust me.

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Master Bonks, I do this for a loving,
you know? Trust me.

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Where I like my career the least is
when I feel like I'm doing something

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that 200 other actors could do.

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That's where I feel I'm wasting my time.

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When I'm doing my… my unusual little art,

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and it may not be good art,
but it's art because it's specific,

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then I'm very happy.

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Let the party begin!

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The characters he has played,

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they're not just parodies of a type.

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It's actually quite hard to make
a completely bizarre character real.

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That's what he does.

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And this is a book about what?

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It's… it's… it's a love letter,
really, I suppose,

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with a… with a dash of hatred,
in an almost mocha kind of swirl,

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if you'll have it.

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It's like seeing
your best friend in the world,

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who happens to be
the weirdest person ever.

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-[Nancy] How's that character coming?
-Oh, the Mad Hatter is coming fine.

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I don't know.
I haven't figured him out yet.

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It might be low and English.

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Hello. Any more strawberries
down there, Dormy?

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Any spoilt sandwiches?
I do love spoilt sandwiches, don't you?

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-Might be that.
-[Nancy] I like the lisp.

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Yes, okay. I overslept! Slept!

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-[Nancy] You… you over what?
-Slept!

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-[Nancy] I like that.
-[chuckles]

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Have you any more food down there, Dormy?

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Any spoilt sandwiches or strawberries?

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I love strawberries, don't you? [laughs]

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You don't realize how much energy it takes

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to do what he does.

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[upbeat music plays]

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[shrieks]

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♪ Won't you stay a while? ♪

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He hasn't exhausted himself
by second-guessing a decision,

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by being frightened
that he made the wrong decision.

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You know how many hours in the day
you'd have if you didn't have that?

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I'd have 23 more hours.

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♪ Hallo! Who are you? ♪

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♪ Get away! ♪

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♪ I don't like what you say ♪

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Now…

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[Marty] Oh my God, that's horrible.
Not the eyebrow work. That's fantastic.

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Ron-Ron, run up to yourself.

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I don't think
you should start that story with…

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If it makes you feel better,
you can also be my, uh, Life Alert

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in case I fall,

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and we can have colonoscopies together.

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Hello. How are you?

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I didn't notice there was a camera on me.

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This is so weird.

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I'm not used to being photographed.
I'm kind of shy.

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-Good morning, sir.
-[Marty] Good morning!

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I would say my career
has been 80% failure,

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and I think those are pretty good odds.

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Show business is talent,
luck, and endurance.

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But you can have talent,
you can have tenacity,

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you can take the hits,

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but if you don't have the confidence
to get up there and fail,

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then you can't do it.

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I'm gonna go down to the set. [laughs]

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-[Marty exhales] Hey!
-[Steve] Hey!

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-Can I come with you to the funeral?
-Yeah!

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Please, God, yes. We… we need you.

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You're the glue. You're the Mabel
in the Charles/Oliver sandwich.

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Without you, we're two pieces
of stale white bread.

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Exactly. Come on.

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We have that scene,
but we know that scene.

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[Steve] Yeah.

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I'm starting to feel very comfortable now

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with the lines for the rest of the season.

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[Marty] I'm gonna get dressed.

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-[Steve] See ya.
-[Marty] Bye.

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[chuckles] You let them in.

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Hey, there's Ron Howard.

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-[laughter]
-[Steve] Oh boy.

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-[chuckles]
-Now the fun begins.

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So… so let me…
let me ask some incisive questions.

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-Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
-[laughs]

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Like, why? Why do you continue
to push yourself?

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Well, I don't know. I think
I just love the sound of applause.

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-I have a different question.
-Yeah.

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Why do you continue?

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[laughs]

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I just think it's important,
um, if you're "gifted…"

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[Ron laughs]

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-…to share that gift…
-Of course.

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…with… with people,
I don't know, like you.

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[laughs] And we're grateful.

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-I know you are.
-Forever grateful.

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Have you ever thought… What have you done?

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[laughs]

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[Marty] Yes, it's Whitton Road.

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I wonder who that lady is.

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That was my bedroom.

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It's false for me to say
that comedy came from some space of pain.

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It's the opposite.

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It came from my whole life.
People were funny in my family.

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You know, I was this youngest of five.

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There was five years
between the fourth and the fifth.

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And I think I got so much attention
and so much love,

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and everyone told me
I was so great, and so funny,

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and so fabulous my whole life

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that I just boomed
into my, uh, uh, teen years

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without any kind of concern
that I, you know…

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I could look like, uh, Bill Schlechman

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with pimples and hairdo
and, "Hi, lady," and go up,

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and somehow, if she didn't ask me,
if she didn't say she'd go out with me,

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I'd say, "What's her problem?"

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And believe it.

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I profited from trickle-down comedy.

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My brother Michael
is a multi-Emmy, Golden Globe winner

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from everything from SCTV
to MADtv to Schitt's Creek.

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The thing that was really encouraged
was to make everyone laugh.

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-That was always encouraged in our family.
-Right.

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If you could make someone laugh,
even if you hurt a couple of people--

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Along the way.

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[both laugh]

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[Marty] My father was general sales
manager of the Steel Company of Canada,

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very high position.

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Really funny, very sarcastic,

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slight Irish accent, came over at 21.

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"Hello, Marty."

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He was a bit of a handful,
you would agree.

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Mm-hmm.

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[Michael] He would have occasional gin.

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-[Marty] Yeah.
-Occasional subbing for the word constant.

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[Marty laughs]

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[Michael] He would be snarky,
but it was all meant in… to be funny.

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[Charles] Marty, my son,

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who has no possible chance in hell
to ever develop into a singing voice.

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But… but… but the point is
that he is interested.

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And the person that has
a distinctive voice

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is the one that's remembered.

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Marty was, uh, uh, tremendously talented.

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He started doing comedy
when he was, like, five.

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He was doing jokes, and doing bits,
and singing all the time.

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You did shows in the attic, literally,
did you not?

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I used to do the Martin Short Show.

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We were on at, uh, Tuesday at 8:30
opposite Andy Williams.

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In my mind. I would, uh, type up things.

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"Marty will sing… Marty's guests will be…"

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I would perform,
and I'd be killing upstairs,

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someone would call "dinner,"
and we'd stop and tape later.

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Yeah! Thank you, darling.

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♪ Broadway, Broadway, Broadway ♪

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Kids are playing road hockey,
and I'm up in my attic.

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-♪ Weather-wise, such a cuckoo day ♪
-Yeah.

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People are protesting the Vietnam War,
and he's doing Sinatra.

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[Marty] ♪ Tell you about Broadway ♪

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[Marty exhales]

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What Marty does now,
he was doing back then.

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Please welcome
the 100-million-dollar man himself,

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my best friend, Eugene Levy.

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Eugene Leevy.

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-Levy.
-Whatever. Please sit.

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Look at them over there.

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You'd think
they'd known each other for years.

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[gentle music plays]

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[Marty] Truthfully, he's my oldest
and dearest friend.

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We were roommates together for a while.

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We dated for a period of time,
but the point is--

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Yeah.

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You're Canadian. Has that been a burden?

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[laughter]

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No. No, it has not been a burden.

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You understand everything I'm saying?
I don't need to speak slower?

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[laughter]

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We have the same language.

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Where do Canadians go
when they need to get away?

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Do they just go to the border
and look and peer and wish?

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[laughter]

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Marty is my best friend.

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-[Jimmy] Is your best friend?
-Yes.

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I met Marty in 1970 at McMaster University

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when we were in school together.

247
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It looks like he's an actor

248
00:12:05,975 --> 00:12:08,853
trying desperately hard
to get dramatic work.

249
00:12:08,936 --> 00:12:10,688
-Yeah, he does.
-[laughter]

250
00:12:10,771 --> 00:12:14,275
Well, I started out in pre-med,
and I switched to social work

251
00:12:14,775 --> 00:12:16,652
because I felt that would be easier.

252
00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:19,613
In high school, I never did any theater.

253
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It wasn't till I switched to social work
that I had time and I got more involved.

254
00:12:23,951 --> 00:12:26,829
And I'm doing everything
that I can theatrically.

255
00:12:28,122 --> 00:12:30,958
It still did not seem realistic
to be an actor.

256
00:12:31,459 --> 00:12:33,627
Eugene Levy was the one who said,

257
00:12:33,711 --> 00:12:37,047
"You should try to do this professionally.
Come to Toronto."

258
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So I literally gave myself
a one-year contract.

259
00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:42,219
I thought, "I'll give it a year,

260
00:12:42,303 --> 00:12:43,721
and if nothing happens,

261
00:12:43,804 --> 00:12:47,641
then I can apply
and go back to university."

262
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[Eugene] Post-graduate work?

263
00:12:49,310 --> 00:12:50,603
No, high school.

264
00:12:50,686 --> 00:12:54,190
I'm having some degree of difficulty
getting through high school.

265
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-I see. Well, good to have you--
-[Marty] But I'll do it.

266
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I'm sure you will.

267
00:12:57,943 --> 00:13:01,405
Because I have certain goals in life
I feel compelled to complete.

268
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[Eugene] Very good.

269
00:13:02,656 --> 00:13:05,451
One of which is becoming
a circuit court judge.

270
00:13:05,534 --> 00:13:06,869
Good. Good to have ambition.

271
00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:10,122
[Marty] I don't think you're ever aware
that you're in a particular group

272
00:13:10,206 --> 00:13:11,582
or a particular time.

273
00:13:11,665 --> 00:13:13,834
Toronto certainly had a creative boom.

274
00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:19,673
Is this coincidental, or is there
some Canadian comedic sensibility

275
00:13:19,757 --> 00:13:22,593
that particularly appeals?

276
00:13:22,676 --> 00:13:27,681
Well, I do think that Canada, uh,
Toronto particularly, it's, uh, at a hub.

277
00:13:27,765 --> 00:13:31,060
You know, we would get the Pythons
before the States got the Pythons.

278
00:13:31,894 --> 00:13:33,938
Eugene Levy and I shared a house,

279
00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:36,482
1063 Avenue Road in Toronto.

280
00:13:36,565 --> 00:13:38,692
And this house had more parties.

281
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Paul Shaffer would get up
and play the piano,

282
00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:43,239
and people would sing,

283
00:13:43,322 --> 00:13:46,951
and everyone kind of dated each other,
and partied with each other,

284
00:13:47,034 --> 00:13:48,452
and worked with each other.

285
00:13:48,536 --> 00:13:52,498
It was really kind of fantastic,
when you think of it.

286
00:13:52,581 --> 00:13:54,250
We all were performers,

287
00:13:54,333 --> 00:13:57,044
and we all loved to laugh.

288
00:13:58,045 --> 00:14:00,965
There was a lot of enthusiasm and fun,

289
00:14:01,048 --> 00:14:05,052
and a great love of performing.

290
00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,931
[Paul] At the Catskills
in these summer resorts,

291
00:14:09,014 --> 00:14:10,641
there was a guy called the tummler.

292
00:14:10,724 --> 00:14:13,227
In Yiddish, that means
a guy who causes a tumult,

293
00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:15,020
gets action going.

294
00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:18,440
I don't think Marty was in the Catskills,
but he sure is, you know…

295
00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:21,151
He is the tummler of… of our dreams.

296
00:14:22,486 --> 00:14:27,074
[Eugene] Everything was there with Marty.
His voice was there. His comedy was there.

297
00:14:27,658 --> 00:14:29,785
I said, "There's a show opening,
Godspell."

298
00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:33,205
"You should come in and audition for it
'cause it's a big musical."

299
00:14:34,248 --> 00:14:35,791
We went to the callback together,

300
00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:38,878
and that's where I introduced
Marty to Andrea.

301
00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:42,631
Godspell was looking for people
that weren't acting.

302
00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:46,594
That were just
genuinely, um, effervescent,

303
00:14:46,677 --> 00:14:49,263
uh, comedic, uh, warm.

304
00:14:50,097 --> 00:14:52,850
-♪ Day by day ♪
-♪ Day by day ♪

305
00:14:52,933 --> 00:14:53,934
♪ Day by day ♪

306
00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:56,228
[Marty] Gilda Radner,
it was the first time she'd worked,

307
00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:59,231
and Andrea Martin and Eugene Levy
and Victor Garber

308
00:14:59,315 --> 00:15:01,191
and Jayne Eastwood and a lot of--

309
00:15:01,275 --> 00:15:04,028
-[man] An amazing cast.
-Yeah. Paul Shaffer was the piano player.

310
00:15:04,111 --> 00:15:06,822
[man] Right, right. You dated, uh, Gilda.

311
00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:10,117
[Marty] Yes, I did. Everyone fell in love
with Gilda. She was adorable.

312
00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,787
She was so funny,
and she was just so self-deprecating.

313
00:15:13,871 --> 00:15:17,833
First day, she came up to me and went,
"Hi, my name's Gilda. Nice to see you."

314
00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,753
She had a pimple here,
and she kept holding it and talking to me.

315
00:15:21,378 --> 00:15:23,172
-Everyone fell in love with Gilda.
-[man] Yeah.

316
00:15:23,255 --> 00:15:25,007
[Marty] It's a safe thing to say.

317
00:15:25,966 --> 00:15:28,344
You later fell in love with her understudy
and married her.

318
00:15:28,427 --> 00:15:31,764
Yes, I… Uh, Nancy Dolman,
who was, uh, Gilda's understudy.

319
00:15:31,847 --> 00:15:33,349
That's true. In Godspell.

320
00:15:33,432 --> 00:15:35,976
[Larry] Apparently, you had decided,
"Anyone who plays that part,

321
00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:38,228
I'm gonna get involved with." Uh, is that…

322
00:15:38,312 --> 00:15:40,648
[chuckles] That was…
Yes, that was my decision.

323
00:15:40,731 --> 00:15:43,484
["You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio"
by Joni Mitchell plays]

324
00:15:44,401 --> 00:15:48,030
[Nancy] When I came into Godspell,
I was auditioning as understudy.

325
00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:53,369
I came in. It was very difficult for me
because the group was already set.

326
00:15:53,452 --> 00:15:54,912
They were all best friends.

327
00:15:54,995 --> 00:15:58,749
And there was Gilda,
and she was just so spectacular.

328
00:15:58,832 --> 00:16:00,876
And Andrea Martin, who I was in awe of.

329
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,419
All these… You know, Marty…

330
00:16:02,503 --> 00:16:05,714
Marty, I wasn't that keen on
at first, actually.

331
00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:09,343
♪ You turn me on, I'm a radio… ♪

332
00:16:09,426 --> 00:16:10,678
[Marty] And Nancy was

333
00:16:11,762 --> 00:16:13,639
drop-dead beautiful. It was insane.

334
00:16:13,722 --> 00:16:18,435
♪ I'm a wildwood flower, waving for you… ♪

335
00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:20,521
And she owned an antique clothing store.

336
00:16:21,355 --> 00:16:24,858
She had smuggled clothes in from Detroit
through the border.

337
00:16:24,942 --> 00:16:27,820
And it was the era…
You know, that Joni Mitchell…

338
00:16:27,903 --> 00:16:31,156
And she had a Joni Mitchell look.
It was long, blonde hair.

339
00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,534
♪ When you're loving and kind ♪

340
00:16:33,617 --> 00:16:37,621
And she'd come in with a velvet cape
and sign in, "Hi."

341
00:16:38,122 --> 00:16:39,498
And the guys'd go,

342
00:16:40,290 --> 00:16:43,961
"Yeah, okay then." But it didn't bother me
'cause I was with Gilda.

343
00:16:44,044 --> 00:16:45,671
[music fades]

344
00:16:45,754 --> 00:16:48,841
We'd broken up a few times,
and we'd now had a fight.

345
00:16:48,924 --> 00:16:50,259
We'd broken up again.

346
00:16:50,342 --> 00:16:53,012
And I go to The Pilot bar,

347
00:16:53,095 --> 00:16:54,680
and there's Nancy Dolman.

348
00:16:55,514 --> 00:16:58,559
She was funny and had edge.

349
00:16:58,642 --> 00:16:59,810
And we got talking.

350
00:16:59,893 --> 00:17:02,604
She'd just broken up with her boyfriend,
but that wasn't…

351
00:17:02,688 --> 00:17:05,107
I just, "Oh.
Yeah, I just broke up with Gilda."

352
00:17:06,817 --> 00:17:10,571
I was doing a play, and Nancy came.
It was the summer.

353
00:17:10,654 --> 00:17:13,449
And she was wearing short shorts
and a halter top.

354
00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:16,410
And I was wearing
short shorts and a T-shirt.

355
00:17:16,493 --> 00:17:18,662
And we went to the Four Seasons Hotel.

356
00:17:18,746 --> 00:17:22,541
And I said to the guy,
"My wife and I would like a room, please."

357
00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:27,087
And even he started laughing
because we looked about 12.

358
00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:31,050
And that was it. That was it.

359
00:17:32,676 --> 00:17:35,387
♪ From this moment on ♪

360
00:17:35,471 --> 00:17:37,222
-What?
-Hi, this is my wife, Nancy.

361
00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:40,184
[indistinct singing]

362
00:17:40,267 --> 00:17:42,269
[gentle music plays]

363
00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:50,444
Beauteous Duchess.

364
00:17:51,987 --> 00:17:55,324
Who is presently listening
to the cast album of The Goodbye Girl.

365
00:17:56,867 --> 00:17:59,411
Is that Nancy, or is that Bo Derek?

366
00:18:00,412 --> 00:18:02,289
I'm listening to your song.

367
00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:05,751
♪ So perverse ♪

368
00:18:06,543 --> 00:18:08,253
♪ Better call a nurse ♪

369
00:18:08,337 --> 00:18:09,713
[woman] Marty and Nancy.

370
00:18:09,797 --> 00:18:11,673
Yeah, what a team, eh?

371
00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:14,051
I keep saying they're an amazing team,
but they really were.

372
00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:18,097
He's very outer child.

373
00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:20,057
And… [laughs] And she was
very outer adult.

374
00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:21,100
Oh my…

375
00:18:21,183 --> 00:18:23,268
[Marty laughs]

376
00:18:24,394 --> 00:18:27,064
My husband and I went through
a rough patch in our marriage.

377
00:18:27,147 --> 00:18:29,983
We went to therapy,
and one of the questions she asked is,

378
00:18:30,067 --> 00:18:32,486
"Do you have friends,
do you know a couple,

379
00:18:32,569 --> 00:18:36,115
whose relationship you would love to have,
or you'd love to emulate?"

380
00:18:36,198 --> 00:18:38,909
We said, "Oh, we have these friends,
Marty and Nancy."

381
00:18:38,992 --> 00:18:40,119
And she said,

382
00:18:40,744 --> 00:18:43,288
"I can't tell you
how many people have named them…"

383
00:18:43,372 --> 00:18:44,331
[laughs]

384
00:18:44,414 --> 00:18:45,958
"…when I've asked this question."

385
00:18:47,751 --> 00:18:49,002
Hi, sweetie.

386
00:18:50,879 --> 00:18:53,966
-My darling, how are you?
-[Marty] I'm fine, darling. How are you?

387
00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:56,176
Are we having a romantic time together?

388
00:18:56,260 --> 00:18:57,886
[Marty] Yes, we are.

389
00:18:58,387 --> 00:18:59,888
After all these years.

390
00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:01,557
We really are, you know.

391
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,350
[Larry] This is slightly relevant.

392
00:19:03,433 --> 00:19:04,601
It's about time.

393
00:19:05,102 --> 00:19:05,978
[Larry chuckles]

394
00:19:06,061 --> 00:19:09,106
[Larry] Tell me what led to the break
that changed your life.

395
00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:11,733
The thing about
Canadian entertainment then,

396
00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:13,277
it was you got to do everything.

397
00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:17,656
It was like being at
a consistent university of show business.

398
00:19:17,739 --> 00:19:20,784
So in Canada, you could do
Shakespeare and radio,

399
00:19:20,868 --> 00:19:22,536
and you might do a voice commercial.

400
00:19:23,036 --> 00:19:25,122
On sale for just $39.95.

401
00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:27,749
And then you'd do your cabaret show.

402
00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:32,629
♪ I'll never love again ♪

403
00:19:32,713 --> 00:19:36,091
♪ I'm so in love with you ♪

404
00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:38,677
In the summer of 1973,

405
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,139
Second City, the legendary
improvisational group from Chicago,

406
00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:44,766
formed its first sister company
in Toronto.

407
00:19:46,935 --> 00:19:50,397
[Andrea] Gilda Radner worked there.
Dan Aykroyd worked there.

408
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,275
It was kind of the… the cool place
where you'd meet.

409
00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:56,195
[Marty] Everyone auditioned for it,
and everyone got in.

410
00:19:56,278 --> 00:20:00,032
Andrea and Catherine and Joe
and Eugene and Dave and John Candy.

411
00:20:00,657 --> 00:20:01,909
I did not audition.

412
00:20:02,951 --> 00:20:06,205
I didn't like the idea
of being funny on demand

413
00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:08,081
'cause I was basically afraid of it.

414
00:20:08,165 --> 00:20:09,208
I wanted to be Sinatra.

415
00:20:09,291 --> 00:20:11,418
I wanted to be a singer.
I wanted to be an actor.

416
00:20:11,501 --> 00:20:13,462
♪ I've got to be ♪

417
00:20:13,545 --> 00:20:16,506
♪ Where my spirit can run free… ♪

418
00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:21,720
But I was now starting to feel
like I'm behind everyone.

419
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,681
I have limited myself,

420
00:20:24,765 --> 00:20:27,935
and I'm going in a kind of circle.

421
00:20:28,018 --> 00:20:30,020
I don't feel momentum.

422
00:20:31,355 --> 00:20:38,362
♪ Of the sky ♪

423
00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:42,199
I remember going down
to the subway in Toronto.

424
00:20:42,282 --> 00:20:44,993
Every time I went down there,
the subway was leaving.

425
00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:47,663
I would run toward the subway.

426
00:20:47,746 --> 00:20:50,582
I'd walk really slow. It was leaving.

427
00:20:50,666 --> 00:20:53,961
And I thought, when the subway's
pulling in, my luck will change.

428
00:20:54,044 --> 00:20:56,880
But right now, the subway is pulling away.

429
00:20:59,132 --> 00:21:02,719
Nancy had a record deal in LA,
so I was gonna join her.

430
00:21:02,803 --> 00:21:05,305
[announcer] Now, Miss Nancy Dolman.

431
00:21:05,389 --> 00:21:06,890
[upbeat music plays]

432
00:21:06,974 --> 00:21:08,475
♪ This is it ♪

433
00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:11,436
♪ This time I know it's the real thing ♪

434
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:16,441
[Eugene] And she really broke through
and was on national television prime time,

435
00:21:16,525 --> 00:21:17,609
even before Marty.

436
00:21:18,777 --> 00:21:20,696
She was the whole package.

437
00:21:21,613 --> 00:21:25,742
A beautiful voice,
perfect pitch with perfect diction,

438
00:21:25,826 --> 00:21:29,830
looks like a movie star,
and the nicest person.

439
00:21:29,913 --> 00:21:34,626
[sings]

440
00:21:35,961 --> 00:21:38,380
[Marty] There's a moment
I call Breakdown Corner.

441
00:21:38,463 --> 00:21:42,134
Paul Shaffer and Bill Murray
were staying in LA.

442
00:21:42,217 --> 00:21:45,429
♪ Did he scare you
As much as he scared me? ♪

443
00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:46,346
[shrieks]

444
00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:49,182
[Marty] At that time,
Bill Murray had already been a big hit

445
00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,643
and just started on SNL that year.

446
00:21:51,727 --> 00:21:53,562
…my seventh winter up here!

447
00:21:53,645 --> 00:21:57,316
♪ Star Wars ♪

448
00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:02,321
[Marty] And Paul said, "Bill and I are
going to dinner, so you and Nancy join us,

449
00:22:02,404 --> 00:22:04,865
and we'll swing at my place,
the Sunset Marquis."

450
00:22:04,948 --> 00:22:07,617
And Nancy and I are walking there.

451
00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:10,579
And I just was overwhelmed with,

452
00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:13,373
"I can't. I can't do it.
I can't do it. I can't."

453
00:22:13,457 --> 00:22:16,251
I'm out of work now.
Hadn't worked for a couple of months,

454
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:19,379
had no prospects, and didn't really know
where I was going.

455
00:22:19,463 --> 00:22:23,759
And I said, "I can't go
and pretend to be happy for Bill

456
00:22:25,385 --> 00:22:27,179
because I don't know what I'm doing."

457
00:22:27,971 --> 00:22:29,639
"I need to sit down."

458
00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:32,017
[man] Son,

459
00:22:33,852 --> 00:22:36,480
why are you sitting here all alone?

460
00:22:36,563 --> 00:22:40,609
Why aren't you outside
having fun and joining in?

461
00:22:41,485 --> 00:22:43,695
-Well, I just don't feel like it, sir.
-Ah.

462
00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:47,032
I guess I'm kind of down in the dumps.

463
00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:49,451
We sat there for about ten minutes
and didn't speak.

464
00:22:49,534 --> 00:22:50,786
Finally, Nancy said,

465
00:22:51,286 --> 00:22:53,413
"How long are we going to stay here?"

466
00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:56,541
I said, "I don't know."

467
00:22:57,709 --> 00:22:59,503
So we went back to the apartment,

468
00:23:00,128 --> 00:23:01,755
and I woke up in a funk.

469
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,511
And then we saw War Babies,
who were an improvisational group.

470
00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:11,014
I was… It was so funny.
It was so fresh. It was inspiring.

471
00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:13,934
I felt inspired just witnessing it.

472
00:23:14,726 --> 00:23:17,771
It was like a…
The… the light bulbs went off.

473
00:23:17,854 --> 00:23:19,606
"Of course this is
what I should be doing."

474
00:23:19,689 --> 00:23:22,651
I phoned Andrew Alexander
the next morning and said,

475
00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:24,528
"I wanna go into Second City."

476
00:23:24,611 --> 00:23:27,114
He said, "All right."

477
00:23:27,197 --> 00:23:29,199
[gentle music plays]

478
00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:34,413
Marty Short was so strong, like,
immediately when he came in the cast.

479
00:23:34,496 --> 00:23:36,540
Most people… When he joined the cast.

480
00:23:36,623 --> 00:23:40,085
Most people would come in
and sort of try to find their place.

481
00:23:40,585 --> 00:23:44,172
When you come in in the middle of the
show, coming into someone else's roles,

482
00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:48,051
most people would basically try to imitate
the person whose roles they're doing.

483
00:23:48,135 --> 00:23:52,514
He just immediately put his own
ridiculously strong characters

484
00:23:52,597 --> 00:23:54,683
into these scenes and, like, just…

485
00:23:55,684 --> 00:23:58,562
Just such great self-confidence,
and so funny.

486
00:23:59,563 --> 00:24:04,151
[Marty] I always figured if you walked
on stage and you look totally insane,

487
00:24:04,234 --> 00:24:05,360
you'd get a laugh.

488
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,195
And then you were halfway there.

489
00:24:07,988 --> 00:24:12,159
All these characters, I think,
come from people you know,

490
00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:13,952
or combinations of people you know.

491
00:24:14,035 --> 00:24:16,955
And it's kind of good that they do,
because that creates…

492
00:24:17,038 --> 00:24:19,124
even though there might be
absurdist characters,

493
00:24:19,207 --> 00:24:21,084
it creates a three dimension to them.

494
00:24:21,168 --> 00:24:22,961
Just the thought of it makes my heart beat

495
00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:26,089
like a distant little jungle drum,
I must say.

496
00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:30,051
I'll do Grimley,
but I'm not sure if they want me to.

497
00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:31,219
No, they would…

498
00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:33,263
[audience cheers]

499
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:39,769
Oh my goodness.

500
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:42,647
Oh, give me a break!

501
00:24:42,731 --> 00:24:46,067
I couldn't be more excited being
on the David Letterman show, I must say.

502
00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:51,156
[Catherine] There was a scene about
a man and a woman applying for a job.

503
00:24:51,239 --> 00:24:54,242
And the woman
is beyond experienced and educated.

504
00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:57,496
And the… the guy
is the biggest dumbass in the world.

505
00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:00,332
-Now, Barbara, maybe you'd like to begin.
-[Catherine] All right.

506
00:25:00,415 --> 00:25:03,335
[man] Why don't you tell me
about your educational background?

507
00:25:03,418 --> 00:25:07,589
Uh, well, I have my bachelor degree
in mathematics from Columbia University.

508
00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:12,385
And I have my master's
in business administration from Stanford.

509
00:25:12,469 --> 00:25:15,972
Oh. Um, now, Ed,
how about your work experience?

510
00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:18,808
F… for the past several years,

511
00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:21,478
I've been employed
by the Union Oil Company.

512
00:25:21,561 --> 00:25:23,980
Really? Uh, in what capacity, Ed?

513
00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:27,359
I work at Al 76 at the corner
of Cahuenga and Melrose, you know?

514
00:25:28,276 --> 00:25:29,819
[Catherine] He'd done it in the improvs,

515
00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:32,447
but it was the first time
he put Ed in a scene.

516
00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:34,866
And he just blew the scene apart.

517
00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:37,410
In a good way. In the best way.

518
00:25:37,911 --> 00:25:39,788
Made it just ridiculously funny.

519
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:41,706
It allowed me to play too.

520
00:25:41,790 --> 00:25:45,794
Like, this is insane
that I'm losing to this guy.

521
00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:50,757
[man] Ed Grimley always wore
the same shirt.

522
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,676
It was my shirt from 11th grade.

523
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:54,553
[laughter]

524
00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:57,430
I knew a guy in high school
who always talked…

525
00:25:57,514 --> 00:25:59,391
He wanted to be a photographer.

526
00:25:59,474 --> 00:26:01,101
He was going to, um…

527
00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:03,436
He was always taking slides.

528
00:26:03,937 --> 00:26:08,984
And, um, uh, often,
he wouldn't always develop them

529
00:26:09,067 --> 00:26:12,070
because he knew what they looked like
'cause he'd taken them.

530
00:26:13,113 --> 00:26:16,575
[low drawl] I got a brother-in-law, Ralph.
And Ralph talks like this.

531
00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:19,452
"Hey, babe, how are you doing?
Get you a drink?"

532
00:26:19,536 --> 00:26:22,622
So I kind of combined, uh, the voices.

533
00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:25,083
Next, I was talking like this, I must say.

534
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:28,128
Peter Aykroyd said, "Marty…"
I greased my hair a little bit.

535
00:26:28,795 --> 00:26:32,299
He said, "Boy, that hair
is standing taller every performance."

536
00:26:32,382 --> 00:26:35,594
So as a joke to make him laugh,
I put it in a point.

537
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:38,847
And one night, I just did this.

538
00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:41,016
And the audience laughs.

539
00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:43,852
What if someone asks you
to play your triangle at the reception?

540
00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:46,479
It could happen.
I'd best practice in preparation.

541
00:26:46,563 --> 00:26:47,564
[laughter]

542
00:26:47,647 --> 00:26:49,649
[classical music plays]

543
00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:55,739
Ed is always fascinated by life.

544
00:26:55,822 --> 00:26:58,742
That's very seductive
because it's a great quality.

545
00:27:02,370 --> 00:27:05,540
I remember him doing,
and still doing, that dance,

546
00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:07,917
the Ed Grimley dance,
from when I first met him.

547
00:27:08,668 --> 00:27:11,796
[Marty] That show was a revelation,
doing Second City,

548
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,467
because I now, for the first time,
was creating characters.

549
00:27:15,550 --> 00:27:17,135
[laughter]

550
00:27:17,218 --> 00:27:18,178
[man] So…

551
00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:26,061
I thought, "If I look, I'm gonna laugh."
So I looked just slightly off of his face.

552
00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:29,064
Then he would do this,
trying to get into my eyeline.

553
00:27:29,147 --> 00:27:31,149
[laughter]

554
00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:35,654
And am I madly in love with Catherine?
Yes, and always have been.

555
00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:37,113
But every guy was.

556
00:27:37,197 --> 00:27:38,657
-No. I love Marty.
-It's true.

557
00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:40,867
When someone makes you laugh,
that's the sexiest thing.

558
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:43,119
-[Marty] Absolutely.
-You're all making each other laugh.

559
00:27:43,203 --> 00:27:46,748
You think, "We're laughing.
We are so connected. We gotta try dating."

560
00:27:46,831 --> 00:27:49,626
-Yeah, didn't everybody love each other?
-Yeah, absolutely.

561
00:27:50,126 --> 00:27:52,712
I used to be able to,
in the Godspell picture, go,

562
00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:54,547
♪ Day by day ♪

563
00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:57,092
♪ Day by day ♪

564
00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:58,468
-♪ Oh dear Lord ♪
-[Catherine] No!

565
00:27:58,551 --> 00:28:00,553
-Oh yeah.
-Wait, but you did all those women?

566
00:28:00,637 --> 00:28:01,471
No, I didn't do all those--

567
00:28:01,554 --> 00:28:03,139
I was just saying
everyone who had done each other.

568
00:28:03,223 --> 00:28:05,225
[gentle music plays]

569
00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:10,563
I just left Second City. I just left
two weeks ago after being there…

570
00:28:10,647 --> 00:28:11,564
[audience groans]

571
00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:12,565
…for two years.

572
00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:15,610
I mean, it really is true
that it's the best place

573
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:17,404
to learn a great deal of information.

574
00:28:17,487 --> 00:28:20,365
Then, once you learn it,
you have to do something with it.

575
00:28:20,448 --> 00:28:23,076
You just can't stay there.
So that's why I moved on.

576
00:28:23,159 --> 00:28:25,036
And since then, I… I've… I've

577
00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:27,664
done really nothing with it, but I… I'm…

578
00:28:27,747 --> 00:28:29,874
I would do guest spots on Taxi,

579
00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:31,793
but it was getting a little sparse.

580
00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:35,213
Hi, do you remember me?
I'm the guy in television.

581
00:28:35,296 --> 00:28:38,925
Then I got a call. Would I join SCTV?

582
00:28:40,427 --> 00:28:44,097
[announcer] We interrupt this program
to bring a special SCTV News announcement.

583
00:28:44,180 --> 00:28:46,349
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm Guy Caballero.

584
00:28:46,433 --> 00:28:48,268
Owner and president of SCTV.

585
00:28:48,351 --> 00:28:50,478
And this is my station manager,
Edith Prickley.

586
00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:51,771
Hello, how's it hanging?

587
00:28:51,855 --> 00:28:52,772
[chuckles]

588
00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:55,859
And the consensus at the CBC
is it's going to be gangbusters.

589
00:28:55,942 --> 00:28:57,777
Well, how couldn't it be?
It'd have to be, wouldn't it?

590
00:28:57,861 --> 00:29:01,072
It was on fire with creativity.

591
00:29:01,156 --> 00:29:04,284
I don't know what the ratings were,
but from a critical standpoint,

592
00:29:04,367 --> 00:29:06,703
and if you were in comedy
and show business,

593
00:29:06,786 --> 00:29:08,997
the perception of it
couldn't have been higher.

594
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,248
[funky music plays]

595
00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:12,459
How do you parody Canadian television,

596
00:29:12,542 --> 00:29:16,087
make it at all interesting to Americans,

597
00:29:16,171 --> 00:29:18,298
who don't know what you're parodying?

598
00:29:22,177 --> 00:29:23,970
[Larry] Tell me about when Marty entered.

599
00:29:24,053 --> 00:29:26,473
Do we have to?
We're… we're on such a roll.

600
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:32,771
Marty came in with, of course,
this energy that became infectious.

601
00:29:33,938 --> 00:29:36,274
But at a certain point,
we started to despise the energy.

602
00:29:36,357 --> 00:29:37,609
-We did.
-Enough's enough.

603
00:29:37,692 --> 00:29:40,570
[announcer] The crowd
is literally buzzing with excitement

604
00:29:40,653 --> 00:29:42,947
as Mr. Rodgers enters the ring.

605
00:29:43,031 --> 00:29:44,449
Oh, look out there, Fred.

606
00:29:44,532 --> 00:29:45,950
[announcer chuckles]

607
00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:48,661
Rodgers is chasing her around the ring.

608
00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:50,079
She's running in terror.

609
00:29:50,163 --> 00:29:54,709
Coq au vin or no coq au vin,
this woman is in trouble.

610
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,003
Ladies and gentlemen, the Queen Haters.

611
00:29:57,086 --> 00:29:58,087
[punk music plays]

612
00:29:58,671 --> 00:30:00,423
[sings in style of punk rocker]

613
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:06,846
[Marty] It was thrilling to be in it,
but it was also a little daunting

614
00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:08,598
because I knew everyone in the cast.

615
00:30:08,681 --> 00:30:10,850
Andrea Martin was my sister-in-law.

616
00:30:11,392 --> 00:30:13,603
Boy, are you stupid!

617
00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:16,272
I like that in a man.

618
00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,858
My brother Michael was one of the writers.

619
00:30:18,942 --> 00:30:20,944
[easy listening music plays]

620
00:30:24,322 --> 00:30:25,740
I knew these people,

621
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:29,035
so their accomplishments so far
made it daunting.

622
00:30:30,203 --> 00:30:31,287
[music fades]

623
00:30:31,371 --> 00:30:35,083
Your play is deemed by critics
unadulterated trash.

624
00:30:35,875 --> 00:30:38,169
But now, less than two years later,

625
00:30:38,253 --> 00:30:41,464
the lady has bounced back
with courage and chutzpah

626
00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:43,883
to direct herself in her own film.

627
00:30:43,967 --> 00:30:46,803
What intrigues me is one word.

628
00:30:47,303 --> 00:30:48,388
Motive.

629
00:30:49,138 --> 00:30:50,932
You really struck a nerve, Brock.

630
00:30:52,475 --> 00:30:55,019
[Marty] What SCTV was doing
was creating characters.

631
00:30:55,603 --> 00:30:58,773
And everyone's instinct
from Second City training

632
00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:01,276
was to give it kind of a three dimension.

633
00:31:01,985 --> 00:31:05,446
Even if it was
an abstract, broad character,

634
00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:07,615
it still was grounded
in some kind of truth.

635
00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:09,117
What have you been up to?

636
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,538
You know, just playing around, babe.
Trying to get things happening.

637
00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:15,999
Everybody, smiles tonight now.

638
00:31:16,082 --> 00:31:18,084
Hollywood party!

639
00:31:18,167 --> 00:31:19,502
Everybody's…

640
00:31:19,586 --> 00:31:22,922
And suddenly,
your whole world was just these people.

641
00:31:23,006 --> 00:31:25,091
The demon dad of Fleet Street.

642
00:31:25,174 --> 00:31:26,843
♪ Doo, du-doo-loo, du-doo-du-doo ♪

643
00:31:26,926 --> 00:31:28,678
♪ Don't come near me ♪

644
00:31:28,761 --> 00:31:30,430
[Marty] ♪ Doo-loo, du-doo-loo, du-doo ♪

645
00:31:30,513 --> 00:31:32,223
♪ I'll cut you up and eat you ♪

646
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:34,475
-Are these talkies or…
-[Marty] These are talkies.

647
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:37,729
-Are these still… JVC still photos?
-[Marty] No, they aren't.

648
00:31:37,812 --> 00:31:39,230
-Impressive unit.
-[Marty] Thank you.

649
00:31:39,314 --> 00:31:42,525
It's the McKenzies!
They're together. I just panned back.

650
00:31:42,609 --> 00:31:44,777
We can't be together
unless the price is right.

651
00:31:44,861 --> 00:31:45,820
Sorry. You gotta be…

652
00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:48,239
[Marty] Now, SCTV was a massive hit.

653
00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:50,658
And we won an Emmy for writing.

654
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:52,243
It was fantastic.

655
00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:55,997
Quickly, our careers became our families.

656
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,293
And, uh… And that's actually
a literal, uh, truth.

657
00:32:00,376 --> 00:32:02,378
[upbeat music plays]

658
00:32:02,962 --> 00:32:06,883
[Marty] Nancy and I got married
on the 22nd of December in Toronto.

659
00:32:06,966 --> 00:32:07,967
And then five days later,

660
00:32:08,051 --> 00:32:11,304
Andrea got married
to Nancy's brother, Bob.

661
00:32:11,387 --> 00:32:13,431
[sings]

662
00:32:14,515 --> 00:32:18,561
[Marty] The great strength of that group
was that they were friends and close,

663
00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,146
and some of them related.

664
00:32:21,814 --> 00:32:24,984
[Andrea] We spent every holiday together.

665
00:32:25,485 --> 00:32:28,363
There was just a hub of activity,
and nobody was thinking,

666
00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:31,240
"Am I gonna make it? Is he gonna make it?
Is that person going to get it?"

667
00:32:31,324 --> 00:32:33,534
I don't ever remember any of that.

668
00:32:36,162 --> 00:32:38,998
Am I getting paid for this?
I'm a pay-or-play.

669
00:32:39,082 --> 00:32:41,167
[gentle music plays]

670
00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:42,961
Would you stop, please?

671
00:32:43,044 --> 00:32:46,422
It's quite a group of people, isn't it?
From Godspell and Second City.

672
00:32:46,506 --> 00:32:47,840
[Marty] Hi, Harold.

673
00:32:47,924 --> 00:32:49,884
[Andrea] They're just being themselves.

674
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,804
Goofing off and talking,
like you are with friends.

675
00:32:55,223 --> 00:32:58,559
[woman] Nancy and I lived
on the same street growing up in Toronto.

676
00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:03,231
And I first heard of Nancy
through my brother and his goofy friends.

677
00:33:03,314 --> 00:33:06,901
They were goo-goo and ga-ga over her
because she was so beautiful.

678
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:10,863
We were very good friends before.

679
00:33:10,947 --> 00:33:14,659
But then, when I started dating Eugene,
we became family.

680
00:33:20,456 --> 00:33:22,250
Hi, honey. How you doing?

681
00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:24,085
-Is it on?
-[Marty] Yes, it is.

682
00:33:24,627 --> 00:33:26,838
Well, we've had a wonderful morning.

683
00:33:26,921 --> 00:33:28,381
[Marty] Some relationships

684
00:33:28,464 --> 00:33:31,676
just keep getting stronger
and stronger and stronger.

685
00:33:33,594 --> 00:33:36,597
We were stunned.
Suddenly, we couldn't get pregnant.

686
00:33:37,098 --> 00:33:38,141
That was…

687
00:33:39,225 --> 00:33:41,644
Th… that… We hadn't even considered that.

688
00:33:43,563 --> 00:33:46,190
And then we found out
that Nancy had endometriosis.

689
00:33:46,274 --> 00:33:49,360
So she had to go on drugs.
And your moods are heightened.

690
00:33:49,444 --> 00:33:53,322
So one night, she was cleaning.
I'd made a peanut butter and jam sandwich.

691
00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:55,408
"Look, when you clean the sandwich,

692
00:33:55,491 --> 00:33:58,536
you've got to wipe the peanut butter
off this counter."

693
00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:01,205
I said, "Okay,
you have to stop those drugs."

694
00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:02,957
"And we're gonna adopt a baby."

695
00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:05,209
"Can we?" You know.

696
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:08,254
And out the drugs went.
And we adopted Katherine.

697
00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:11,174
And then Oliver. And then Henry.

698
00:34:12,425 --> 00:34:15,887
Oh, my baby.
I just have to kiss my baby. One second.

699
00:34:17,722 --> 00:34:18,556
Dada.

700
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,475
♪ Dada-da-da-da ♪

701
00:34:20,558 --> 00:34:26,064
[Andrea] To see him as a father
is so, uh, genuine,

702
00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:28,816
authentic to who he is.

703
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,861
My next-best girlfriend to my wife.

704
00:34:32,361 --> 00:34:36,324
It's as fluid and as genuine
as… as his breath.

705
00:34:36,407 --> 00:34:38,493
That's how much he loves being a dad.

706
00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:39,619
[music stops]

707
00:34:40,495 --> 00:34:42,455
[Marty] I never would have left SCTV.

708
00:34:42,997 --> 00:34:44,207
But it was canceled.

709
00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:45,917
[howls]

710
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,296
Then I got a call saying, "We'd like you
to join Saturday Night Live."

711
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,092
[announcer] It's Saturday Night Live

712
00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,427
with Julia Louis-Dreyfus,

713
00:34:57,303 --> 00:34:59,263
Harry Shearer,

714
00:35:00,389 --> 00:35:02,266
Martin Short.

715
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:06,395
The first two pieces I worked on
were with Harry Shearer.

716
00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:08,106
[dramatic music plays]

717
00:35:08,189 --> 00:35:09,232
[laughter]

718
00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:18,199
[man] Oh, it's… it's not gonna be easy.

719
00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:19,826
I don't swim.

720
00:35:19,909 --> 00:35:20,993
He doesn't swim.

721
00:35:21,077 --> 00:35:22,495
So, I mean, no, of course not.

722
00:35:22,578 --> 00:35:25,248
Nobody is just gonna walk up
and hand us a gold medal,

723
00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:29,460
especially since men's synchro
isn't even in the '88 Olympics yet.

724
00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:32,171
That's okay 'cause we could use the time.

725
00:35:33,005 --> 00:35:36,676
'Cause I'm… I'm not that strong a swimmer.

726
00:35:36,759 --> 00:35:38,427
[laughter]

727
00:35:38,511 --> 00:35:42,557
The next piece we shot was Lifestyles
of the Relatives of the Rich and Famous.

728
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,643
[announcer] …Central Park,
New York's tree-lined melting pot,

729
00:35:45,726 --> 00:35:46,936
sits the hot dog stand

730
00:35:47,019 --> 00:35:50,690
managed by Katharine Hepburn's
maternal third cousin, Nelson.

731
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:53,025
We caught up with him recently.

732
00:35:53,526 --> 00:35:56,237
We don't communicate at all. Never did.

733
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,447
I tried through letter,

734
00:35:58,531 --> 00:36:01,659
through phone call,
anonymous sometimes, and she'd hang up.

735
00:36:01,742 --> 00:36:04,162
One time, she stopped by here,

736
00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:06,873
and I said, "Kate, don't you know me?"

737
00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:10,543
She just looked at me,
and she said, "More mustard, please."

738
00:36:10,626 --> 00:36:12,253
And after the first show,

739
00:36:12,336 --> 00:36:14,088
my manager came up and said,

740
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:17,341
"Well, your stock just went up 3,000%."

741
00:36:17,425 --> 00:36:19,427
[applause]

742
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:24,098
It was an amazing year.
But I remember it was grueling.

743
00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:28,561
Saturday Night Live, it's very intense.
A long schedule.

744
00:36:28,644 --> 00:36:32,273
Especially if you're, uh,
writing and performing.

745
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:37,737
I like to write with, you know,
Mike there, Dick Blasucci, Paul Flaherty,

746
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:39,447
and a tape recorder going.

747
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:41,240
And I would get up and improvise.

748
00:36:41,324 --> 00:36:44,702
And when I was doing SNL,
I was just by myself in the office.

749
00:36:44,785 --> 00:36:46,412
-[Michael] You hated it.
-Oh, I hated it.

750
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:49,707
I went into Dick Ebersol's office

751
00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:52,043
and said, "I would like to quit."

752
00:36:52,543 --> 00:36:56,339
He said, "Look,
first of all, you have a contract,

753
00:36:56,422 --> 00:36:59,383
but this must be
a pretty goddamn tough place

754
00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:01,719
if a good guy like you wants to leave."

755
00:37:02,845 --> 00:37:04,013
"I'll tell you what,

756
00:37:05,598 --> 00:37:07,600
if you feel this way at Christmas,

757
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:09,852
I'll let you out of your contract."

758
00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:12,480
Because he knew, as he later said,

759
00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:16,567
that by Christmas, I'd see
the light at the end of the tunnel,

760
00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:20,488
and I also would have figured out
how to do this from week to week.

761
00:37:20,571 --> 00:37:21,948
[man] You seem defensive.

762
00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:24,700
I'm not being defensive.
You're the one who's being defensive.

763
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:28,037
Why is it always
the other person who's being defensive?

764
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,039
[laughter]

765
00:37:30,122 --> 00:37:32,667
Have you ever asked yourself that?
Why don't you ask yourself that?

766
00:37:33,334 --> 00:37:36,587
If you make them three-dimensional
in some sort of human connection,

767
00:37:36,671 --> 00:37:38,047
then you can really go.

768
00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:41,676
Mr. Thurm, we appreciate your willingness
to talk with us tonight.

769
00:37:41,759 --> 00:37:43,052
What do you mean by that?

770
00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:44,220
[laughter]

771
00:37:44,303 --> 00:37:48,683
Mr. Thurm, as you are well aware,
your critics, and there are many--

772
00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:49,600
No, there aren't.

773
00:37:50,893 --> 00:37:53,229
How do you come up
with a character like that?

774
00:37:53,312 --> 00:37:55,147
It was so incredibly original.

775
00:37:55,231 --> 00:37:59,819
There was a… a makeup artist
that year on SNL, Marion Siebert.

776
00:37:59,902 --> 00:38:03,322
She was the most defensive human being

777
00:38:03,406 --> 00:38:05,533
you had ever met in your life.

778
00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:07,118
You'd sit in her chair.

779
00:38:07,201 --> 00:38:09,495
And she'd dab. "Look at me."

780
00:38:10,746 --> 00:38:13,541
"Your features don't match.
This is tough for me." [mutters]

781
00:38:14,041 --> 00:38:15,251
She's dabbing.

782
00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:18,462
I'd say, "Gee, I look pale.
Don't I, Marion?"

783
00:38:18,546 --> 00:38:20,673
She'd say, "I know that.
You don't think I know that?"

784
00:38:20,756 --> 00:38:22,758
"I'm a makeup artist. I would know that."

785
00:38:22,842 --> 00:38:25,011
Harry Shearer said,
"You should do that character."

786
00:38:25,094 --> 00:38:26,887
I said, "But she's gonna
actually be there."

787
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,765
"Oh, that'll be the fun of it,"
said Harry. And, uh…

788
00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:34,186
And every time we did the piece,
I was afraid I would get caught.

789
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:36,272
I know that. Why wouldn't I know that?

790
00:38:36,355 --> 00:38:38,441
It's my company. I'm quite aware of that.

791
00:38:38,941 --> 00:38:39,775
[scoffs]

792
00:38:40,484 --> 00:38:41,485
Is it me?

793
00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:43,321
It's him, right?

794
00:38:43,404 --> 00:38:44,280
[laughter]

795
00:38:44,363 --> 00:38:46,574
And she never found out
until the very end.

796
00:38:46,657 --> 00:38:48,701
Her assistant was drunk at the wrap party.

797
00:38:48,784 --> 00:38:51,495
"Don't you know who Nathan Thurm is?"

798
00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:54,248
"How dumb are you?"

799
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:56,876
"You're Nathan Thurm!"

800
00:38:57,752 --> 00:39:00,629
She said, "I know that. You don't think
I know that? I know that. I would--"

801
00:39:00,713 --> 00:39:02,340
[laughter and applause]

802
00:39:03,466 --> 00:39:05,343
What about Saturday Night Live?
Are you going back?

803
00:39:05,426 --> 00:39:07,595
-No. No, I'm not.
-[woman] Why?

804
00:39:08,095 --> 00:39:12,516
Because it's a very tough show to do,
and it takes your total concentration.

805
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,771
So your family has to kind of wave goodbye
most of the year.

806
00:39:16,854 --> 00:39:18,773
[Marty coos]

807
00:39:21,442 --> 00:39:22,401
Hi, Mommy.

808
00:39:23,319 --> 00:39:24,278
Hi, Dad.

809
00:39:25,279 --> 00:39:27,031
You've seen these thighs, haven't you?

810
00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:33,662
♪ …my home
And I don't give a damn about tomorrow ♪

811
00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:34,914
♪ I love my little house ♪

812
00:39:34,997 --> 00:39:36,582
♪ It's Toronto ♪

813
00:39:36,665 --> 00:39:37,625
Welcome

814
00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:40,044
to 590 Indian Road.

815
00:39:41,337 --> 00:39:43,631
And this is Martin Short's wife.

816
00:39:44,757 --> 00:39:47,093
The controversially misunderstood

817
00:39:48,177 --> 00:39:49,595
Nancy Dolman.

818
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:51,931
Or otherwise known as…

819
00:39:52,681 --> 00:39:54,016
[Marty] The Duchess of Dolman.

820
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,018
♪ Bum-bum-bum-ba ♪

821
00:39:59,897 --> 00:40:01,482
[Marty] Martin Short.

822
00:40:02,942 --> 00:40:04,402
He's the one in the middle.

823
00:40:06,529 --> 00:40:08,489
That is Martin at age

824
00:40:09,156 --> 00:40:10,199
nine.

825
00:40:12,284 --> 00:40:14,829
That's Martin, second from the left.

826
00:40:15,329 --> 00:40:18,791
[Nancy] Martin, would you like to pick up
a dish towel and give me a hand here?

827
00:40:18,874 --> 00:40:24,171
This is a heavier-set Martin Short
in the summer of 1963.

828
00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:26,257
[gentle music plays]

829
00:40:37,476 --> 00:40:41,105
There was a very, very great deal of love
in that house.

830
00:40:45,568 --> 00:40:48,320
I was the youngest of five,
and everyone was hysterical.

831
00:40:49,321 --> 00:40:52,825
Parents and all the kids,
so I just… That was all I knew.

832
00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:56,579
I mean, we would do recordings.

833
00:40:56,662 --> 00:40:57,580
[piano plays]

834
00:40:57,663 --> 00:41:00,958
[woman] Good afternoon, ladies
and gentlemen. Good evening too.

835
00:41:01,041 --> 00:41:04,044
[Marty] People would sing at the piano,
make fun of each other.

836
00:41:04,128 --> 00:41:06,255
Nora, you start being funny.

837
00:41:08,257 --> 00:41:10,176
[Nora] My name is, um…

838
00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:12,595
[Marty] Get a lot of laughs
with this name?

839
00:41:12,678 --> 00:41:15,639
[Michael] Why are you trying to get over
you can't get a laugh with a name?

840
00:41:15,723 --> 00:41:16,974
[Nora] You want my last name?

841
00:41:17,057 --> 00:41:18,267
[Marty] Might be funny.

842
00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:19,185
[Nora laughs]

843
00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:20,519
[Nora] Jenny Cardinal.

844
00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:22,396
[all laugh]

845
00:41:23,022 --> 00:41:24,190
[Nora] Got a laugh!

846
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,942
[Marty] There was verbal freedom
in our house.

847
00:41:27,026 --> 00:41:29,445
So you could talk back to your father,

848
00:41:29,528 --> 00:41:32,698
and he would overpower you
with his Irish intellect.

849
00:41:32,781 --> 00:41:34,325
Take the microphone, Dad.

850
00:41:34,825 --> 00:41:36,160
Take the microphone.

851
00:41:36,243 --> 00:41:37,703
Just take it. Sing something.

852
00:41:37,786 --> 00:41:40,831
[Olive] Dad, would you come and sing
before he goes crazy?

853
00:41:41,415 --> 00:41:44,335
[Charles] ♪ There will come a day ♪

854
00:41:44,418 --> 00:41:46,837
♪ And youth will pass away ♪

855
00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:52,551
♪ Everyone will say, "I love you" ♪

856
00:41:53,135 --> 00:41:54,929
[man] Now, let's meet Olive Short,

857
00:41:55,012 --> 00:41:57,932
concert mistress
of the Hamilton Philharmonic Orchestra.

858
00:41:58,015 --> 00:41:59,725
She is also the wife of a Stelco-ite,

859
00:41:59,808 --> 00:42:03,729
CP Short, the general sales manager,
screw products division.

860
00:42:03,812 --> 00:42:06,815
[Marty] She was the first female
concert mistress, they used to call it,

861
00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:11,654
in North America from 1952 to '62,
at Hamilton Philharmonic.

862
00:42:11,737 --> 00:42:13,739
[classical music plays]

863
00:42:17,451 --> 00:42:22,122
My mother was a sweet angel of a person.

864
00:42:22,623 --> 00:42:25,376
My father had so much edge.

865
00:42:25,459 --> 00:42:27,419
I think that with any family,

866
00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:33,008
if you have one grounded,
sweet, angelic person,

867
00:42:33,092 --> 00:42:36,303
whether the mother or the father,
then that balances everything out.

868
00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:42,768
[music fades]

869
00:42:43,352 --> 00:42:47,648
-[man] You had three brothers, one sister?
-[Marty] Three brothers, one sister.

870
00:42:47,731 --> 00:42:50,776
[man] Your brother, David,
you were very fond of him, were you not?

871
00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:52,403
[Marty] Yeah, he was my hero.

872
00:42:52,486 --> 00:42:54,029
[man] He was your hero. Why?

873
00:42:54,113 --> 00:42:56,740
[Marty] Because he was,
I guess, the eldest brother,

874
00:42:56,824 --> 00:42:58,909
and because he was phenomenal.

875
00:42:58,993 --> 00:43:02,288
I mean, he died when I was 12,
so sometimes out of that comes legend,

876
00:43:02,371 --> 00:43:05,457
but the legend in this case
was really very deserved, I think.

877
00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:09,878
David was handsome.

878
00:43:10,963 --> 00:43:12,423
He was funny.

879
00:43:12,923 --> 00:43:16,260
He was so sweet, ridiculously sweet,

880
00:43:16,343 --> 00:43:17,428
and adored.

881
00:43:17,928 --> 00:43:20,472
Trumpet player, cool guy.

882
00:43:22,182 --> 00:43:23,475
He was 14 years older.

883
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:26,687
When he came home,
probably at four in the morning,

884
00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:28,397
and now it's 7:30,

885
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,107
I would go up to his room.

886
00:43:30,190 --> 00:43:34,903
A lot of 19-year-olds would say,
"Get out. I'm sleeping."

887
00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:37,865
David would let me get in bed with him,

888
00:43:38,365 --> 00:43:39,867
but he would play giant,

889
00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:43,412
where I had to try to steal his pillow

890
00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:48,417
while the giant was sleeping,
so it allowed him to continue to sleep.

891
00:43:48,917 --> 00:43:52,254
But as I got the pillow just far out,
his arm would come around me,

892
00:43:52,338 --> 00:43:54,048
and the giant would capture me.

893
00:43:54,131 --> 00:43:55,215
That's who he was.

894
00:43:57,801 --> 00:44:00,012
One day, I was at Camp Juaniquita,

895
00:44:00,095 --> 00:44:04,433
and I remember waking up depressed.

896
00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:09,897
The counselor said,
"Your brother's been in an accident,

897
00:44:11,398 --> 00:44:12,775
and it killed him."

898
00:44:12,858 --> 00:44:14,068
That's how he put it.

899
00:44:14,151 --> 00:44:16,820
And I said, "Is he okay?"

900
00:44:18,572 --> 00:44:19,865
"No, it killed him."

901
00:44:19,948 --> 00:44:21,950
[poignant music plays]

902
00:44:24,745 --> 00:44:27,081
I mean, it was like nothing made sense.

903
00:44:27,790 --> 00:44:31,293
And then I had a dream.

904
00:44:32,294 --> 00:44:36,674
And I'm telling you, I can see it
right now, and it was in Technicolor.

905
00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:42,930
And I was sitting by a stream
in the woods,

906
00:44:43,013 --> 00:44:44,556
and David came up.

907
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,183
He looked handsome.

908
00:44:46,266 --> 00:44:48,644
He was wearing
this beautiful Ban-Lon shirt.

909
00:44:49,144 --> 00:44:50,729
And he said,

910
00:44:52,648 --> 00:44:56,026
"I'm fine. Everything is wonderful."

911
00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:57,778
"And I'll see you in a minute."

912
00:44:59,405 --> 00:45:00,948
And I woke up.

913
00:45:02,574 --> 00:45:04,451
And a cloud had lifted.

914
00:45:10,124 --> 00:45:13,544
At the funeral, Mom developed a cough.
She started coughing at the funeral.

915
00:45:14,753 --> 00:45:18,841
She had had breast cancer in 1957,
which I never knew about.

916
00:45:19,925 --> 00:45:24,638
And by the end of that year,
she is really going downhill.

917
00:45:25,305 --> 00:45:28,851
Nora tells a story
that she was nursing in California.

918
00:45:28,934 --> 00:45:30,686
She knew Mom was going down,

919
00:45:30,769 --> 00:45:33,439
so she flew back to be her nurse.

920
00:45:33,522 --> 00:45:36,692
And Nora was present
when the doctor came in and said,

921
00:45:36,775 --> 00:45:38,694
"Olive, you've got three months to live."

922
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,449
And Mom's response was, after he left,

923
00:45:43,532 --> 00:45:46,243
"This can't happen.
I have another child to raise."

924
00:45:46,326 --> 00:45:48,746
So she said to Nora, "Pass me the grapes."

925
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:51,790
And that became a… a symbol
of courage in our family,

926
00:45:51,874 --> 00:45:53,167
"Pass me the grapes."

927
00:45:56,503 --> 00:45:58,213
And then she came home

928
00:45:58,714 --> 00:46:04,386
and went into this remarkable,
you-can't-explain-it remission,

929
00:46:05,345 --> 00:46:07,681
and was in perfect health
for the next two years.

930
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,146
But by the time
I was in grade 13, she died.

931
00:46:18,942 --> 00:46:21,779
Mom died, and Dad's health went fast.

932
00:46:22,654 --> 00:46:25,616
It was just strokes that diminished him,

933
00:46:26,116 --> 00:46:29,119
from being the most powerful guy
that walked in the room

934
00:46:29,203 --> 00:46:31,455
to just quieter, quieter.

935
00:46:34,625 --> 00:46:37,961
He and I took a world cruise
for five weeks, the two of us.

936
00:46:39,505 --> 00:46:43,383
But even when we were in Ireland,
he didn't want to see his siblings

937
00:46:43,926 --> 00:46:46,261
because he was not in great shape.

938
00:46:47,596 --> 00:46:49,598
He had arteriosclerosis.

939
00:46:50,098 --> 00:46:51,725
He drank gin and ginger,

940
00:46:51,809 --> 00:46:55,270
but it was the two packs of smokes
that he had every day.

941
00:46:57,898 --> 00:46:59,900
You had to handle tragedy
when you were a lad.

942
00:46:59,983 --> 00:47:01,735
-[Marty] Right.
-You lost a brother. He died.

943
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,154
I lost my brother David when I was 12.

944
00:47:04,238 --> 00:47:06,782
My mother when I was 18.
My father when I was 20.

945
00:47:07,741 --> 00:47:09,910
Tough, being the youngest
in the family as well.

946
00:47:09,993 --> 00:47:13,205
Right. At that age, or any age,
when you lose someone in your family,

947
00:47:13,288 --> 00:47:15,332
you have a choice.
You actually have a choice.

948
00:47:15,415 --> 00:47:16,917
"How do I handle this?"

949
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,044
-This is a life lesson.
-[man] Right.

950
00:47:19,127 --> 00:47:22,923
And so, do I… do I collapse?
Do I become defeated forever?

951
00:47:23,006 --> 00:47:27,010
Or do I actually kind of learn
that life is short,

952
00:47:27,094 --> 00:47:30,097
and have a glass of wine
and laugh and fun,

953
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:32,683
and appreciate these people,
and never let them go?

954
00:47:32,766 --> 00:47:33,934
See, that's, I think, the great secret.

955
00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:37,521
If you never let them go from your life,
then they're always with your life.

956
00:47:37,604 --> 00:47:39,898
Because before you know it,
you know, you'll be with them.

957
00:47:40,774 --> 00:47:42,776
[gentle music plays]

958
00:47:44,444 --> 00:47:47,656
My family adores each other to this day.

959
00:47:50,492 --> 00:47:53,829
I think Uncle Mike is probably
the most similar to my dad.

960
00:47:54,621 --> 00:47:56,206
They worked a lot together.

961
00:47:56,290 --> 00:47:57,249
-Ugh!
-[Marty] What?

962
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,002
[Oliver] Uncle Brian and Aunt Nora,
I think, are a little more alike

963
00:48:00,085 --> 00:48:03,088
and probably more like their mother,
a little more sweeter.

964
00:48:03,797 --> 00:48:07,551
There's certainly always
the laughter and the jokes.

965
00:48:07,634 --> 00:48:10,137
[laughs]

966
00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:12,681
Who do you think
is the meanest one in the family?

967
00:48:12,764 --> 00:48:15,559
You. And everyone would agree with that.

968
00:48:15,642 --> 00:48:18,270
-You wouldn't even hesitate for a second?
-[Marty] Not a second.

969
00:48:18,353 --> 00:48:20,898
And if you asked Nora,
she'd say, "Michael."

970
00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:22,482
Nora has no credibility.

971
00:48:22,566 --> 00:48:25,152
-Brian would say the same.
-Brian has no credibility.

972
00:48:25,235 --> 00:48:27,195
Okay, so no one has credibility.

973
00:48:27,279 --> 00:48:30,198
But the answer is,
you're the most like Dad,

974
00:48:30,824 --> 00:48:32,659
and everyone agrees.

975
00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:36,038
The four of us get together.

976
00:48:36,121 --> 00:48:39,708
We have hilarity, drink rum and Cokes,

977
00:48:39,791 --> 00:48:43,587
laugh, insult each other,
and like nothing's changed.

978
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:45,172
Very close family.

979
00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:51,303
[Michael] We used to call it
"Maintaining the merry theme of life."

980
00:48:51,386 --> 00:48:52,930
And that was it.

981
00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:56,224
And sometimes,
it gets hard to do, you know?

982
00:48:56,308 --> 00:49:00,479
But, you know, you have to admire someone
that… that continues to do that.

983
00:49:00,979 --> 00:49:04,107
And I think this is why
people, uh, really like Marty so much,

984
00:49:04,191 --> 00:49:08,111
'cause he is always trying to maintain
the merry theme of life.

985
00:49:08,195 --> 00:49:09,112
[laughter]

986
00:49:09,196 --> 00:49:11,323
-Did you get--
-Yes, it's the four Shorts.

987
00:49:11,406 --> 00:49:14,034
-Yes, it's…
-Group… Group hug, group hug.

988
00:49:14,117 --> 00:49:16,536
And here we are, Ken, after so many years.

989
00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:18,080
-What's she doing?
-I don't know.

990
00:49:18,163 --> 00:49:20,123
-Group hug!
-Group hug, group hug, group hug!

991
00:49:20,207 --> 00:49:23,126
We all came from the same womb.

992
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:26,171
-Group hug, group hug, group hug!
-Group hug!

993
00:49:27,255 --> 00:49:29,591
There once were five,
and now there's only four.

994
00:49:29,675 --> 00:49:30,717
Group hug, group hug!

995
00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:32,386
Misery, misery…

996
00:49:32,469 --> 00:49:34,221
We had a bad eight years.

997
00:49:34,304 --> 00:49:36,264
-That was not a good eight years.
-[Michael] Yeah.

998
00:49:36,348 --> 00:49:38,183
[Marty] We had speed dial
to the funeral parlor.

999
00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:40,644
-Yes.
-But there were laughs during those years.

1000
00:49:40,727 --> 00:49:42,980
-[Michael] Yes.
-But that's the point.

1001
00:49:49,194 --> 00:49:53,031
We're having trouble breaking through
that wall of conversation, Larry.

1002
00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:56,618
-Steve might join us for dinner.
-[Larry] All right.

1003
00:49:58,203 --> 00:50:00,247
[Marty] All right, I'll make you coffee.

1004
00:50:03,875 --> 00:50:06,336
Eleven, twelve,

1005
00:50:08,296 --> 00:50:09,297
thirteen.

1006
00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:13,885
As I pour, I'll do
my Richard Burton impersonation. Ready?

1007
00:50:14,636 --> 00:50:15,929
For God's sake,

1008
00:50:16,596 --> 00:50:19,182
let us tell sad stories
of the death of kings.

1009
00:50:19,683 --> 00:50:23,770
How some have been deposed,
some slain in war,

1010
00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:28,775
some poisoned by their wives,
all murdered.

1011
00:50:29,401 --> 00:50:31,111
All right. I'm ready, Lawrence.

1012
00:50:35,115 --> 00:50:37,701
What do you want in your coffee? Mustard?

1013
00:50:38,243 --> 00:50:41,788
A couple of years ago when you came here,
you were just off of SCTV,

1014
00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:43,665
then part of Saturday Night Live.

1015
00:50:43,749 --> 00:50:47,127
The last three or four times
you've been here, you're a leading man.

1016
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:49,421
You're in major, big budget films.

1017
00:50:49,921 --> 00:50:52,215
-Pretty good deal.
-Yeah, it's good. It's good.

1018
00:50:52,299 --> 00:50:57,304
Although I do feel that it's possible
for it to just end.

1019
00:50:57,387 --> 00:50:59,306
[dramatic music plays]

1020
00:51:06,271 --> 00:51:09,191
The first movie I made was Three Amigos.

1021
00:51:11,276 --> 00:51:12,319
[music fades]

1022
00:51:12,402 --> 00:51:16,490
It was equal billing,
but they were two big, big stars.

1023
00:51:16,573 --> 00:51:18,158
[laughs]

1024
00:51:18,241 --> 00:51:20,577
-I'm Lucky Day.
-I'm Ned Nederlander. [laughs]

1025
00:51:20,660 --> 00:51:22,704
I'm Dusty Bottoms. Together, we're…

1026
00:51:22,788 --> 00:51:24,831
[all] The Three Amigos!

1027
00:51:25,957 --> 00:51:27,709
-[all grunt]
-[donkey brays]

1028
00:51:27,793 --> 00:51:29,002
I was aware of Marty.

1029
00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:31,463
He was… To me, he was known.

1030
00:51:31,546 --> 00:51:33,882
He always calls himself "The Cheap Amigo."

1031
00:51:33,965 --> 00:51:37,219
For people watching who might not know,
I think each of us should say our name.

1032
00:51:37,302 --> 00:51:38,595
Martin Short.

1033
00:51:41,848 --> 00:51:44,392
We did bond very quickly over laughter.

1034
00:51:44,476 --> 00:51:46,311
[cheering]

1035
00:51:47,687 --> 00:51:50,357
Now, that was a terrific scene
you just did with me.

1036
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,526
It was fabulous, and I'll tell you why.

1037
00:51:52,609 --> 00:51:55,654
It's because you managed
to blend into the background

1038
00:51:55,737 --> 00:51:57,781
and not stick out
and not try and be funny.

1039
00:51:57,864 --> 00:52:00,742
That's important when you're in a scene
with me, is to do that.

1040
00:52:00,826 --> 00:52:03,328
Because if you're out there
trying to be funny,

1041
00:52:03,411 --> 00:52:05,288
the audience is going to hate you for it.

1042
00:52:05,372 --> 00:52:09,292
Because I'll be on the screen,
and they'll know my aura will extend out.

1043
00:52:09,376 --> 00:52:12,504
You don't want to ever interfere
with my aura of comedy.

1044
00:52:12,587 --> 00:52:15,632
When you're doing the scene with Chevy,
that's when I would go big.

1045
00:52:15,715 --> 00:52:16,758
[Marty] Really mug…

1046
00:52:16,842 --> 00:52:22,097
Mug, big, and try to take.
What is it when you're in a scene with me?

1047
00:52:22,180 --> 00:52:23,890
Underplay, go into the background.

1048
00:52:23,974 --> 00:52:24,975
With Chevy?

1049
00:52:25,058 --> 00:52:27,686
-Mug, mug, mug.
-Great. Terrific. Great.

1050
00:52:27,769 --> 00:52:29,646
-Thank you, Steve.
-It's okay. Aw.

1051
00:52:29,729 --> 00:52:31,565
-It's nice. Thank you.
-[Steve] It's okay.

1052
00:52:35,610 --> 00:52:37,320
[Marty] We'd play Scrabble a lot.

1053
00:52:37,404 --> 00:52:39,781
I remember I passed Chevy
a note that said,

1054
00:52:39,865 --> 00:52:43,368
"I'll let you ball my wife Nancy
for an E or a Q."

1055
00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:47,706
And Chevy, that fit into his wheelhouse
of what he thought was funny.

1056
00:52:47,789 --> 00:52:51,168
He said, "I'm gonna pick you up.
You and I will drive to work every day."

1057
00:52:51,251 --> 00:52:54,129
And so very quickly, we all bonded.

1058
00:52:54,713 --> 00:52:56,548
[applause]

1059
00:52:56,631 --> 00:52:59,426
In life, sometimes you hit a green light.

1060
00:53:00,969 --> 00:53:03,388
And sometimes, for no reason,
it's a red light.

1061
00:53:03,889 --> 00:53:06,266
Is there something out there
that is really so bad?

1062
00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:08,476
I can't really recommend Three Amigos.

1063
00:53:08,977 --> 00:53:12,772
[audience jeers]

1064
00:53:13,481 --> 00:53:17,611
[Marty] Three Amigos opened second
to Golden Child with Eddie Murphy.

1065
00:53:18,737 --> 00:53:24,201
But it's become so revered
by, particularly, boys in their forties.

1066
00:53:24,701 --> 00:53:28,997
It's interesting how he feels
about failures. You know? It, um…

1067
00:53:29,497 --> 00:53:33,460
Uh, Lorne, Steve, and Marty,

1068
00:53:33,543 --> 00:53:35,712
if you bring up Three Amigos,

1069
00:53:35,795 --> 00:53:39,132
only recently will they embrace
that people like it.

1070
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:42,010
When I first met Marty
and told him how much it meant to me,

1071
00:53:42,093 --> 00:53:45,513
he went, "Yeah, but it didn't open.
It lost to Golden Child." Like that.

1072
00:53:46,014 --> 00:53:50,185
I remember Justin Timberlake telling him
how much Three Amigos meant.

1073
00:53:50,268 --> 00:53:52,187
Over time, it started to sink in.

1074
00:53:52,270 --> 00:53:57,400
Like, "Hey, we… we don't remember
that it lost to Golden Child."

1075
00:53:57,484 --> 00:54:00,612
"We just think it's a great movie
and you need to accept that."

1076
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:05,742
[Marty] But at that time, no one's saying
Marty Short's a movie star.

1077
00:54:05,825 --> 00:54:07,244
Then we make Innerspace.

1078
00:54:07,327 --> 00:54:09,496
Innerspace is a very, very good movie.

1079
00:54:09,579 --> 00:54:10,872
[suspenseful music plays]

1080
00:54:12,874 --> 00:54:14,584
It's testing through the roof.

1081
00:54:15,085 --> 00:54:17,337
And you don't know anything
about the experiment?

1082
00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:18,380
[Marty] What experiment?

1083
00:54:18,463 --> 00:54:20,632
[man] I've been miniaturized.

1084
00:54:20,715 --> 00:54:24,052
I was supposed to be injected
into the body of a laboratory rabbit,

1085
00:54:24,135 --> 00:54:26,888
and somehow, I got inside you instead.

1086
00:54:26,972 --> 00:54:29,516
And then no one goes to see Innerspace.

1087
00:54:30,183 --> 00:54:31,601
[groans]

1088
00:54:33,561 --> 00:54:35,105
We make Cross My Heart.

1089
00:54:35,188 --> 00:54:39,943
If the next five guys
that you go out with are worse than me,

1090
00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:41,987
will you give me a call?

1091
00:54:43,321 --> 00:54:44,364
[sighs]

1092
00:54:47,158 --> 00:54:48,076
[sighs]

1093
00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:52,122
No, I don't think so.

1094
00:54:55,166 --> 00:54:58,211
[Marty] I don't know if you've looked
at the receipts of that one.

1095
00:54:58,712 --> 00:55:02,132
You make movies with a bunch of people
for three months,

1096
00:55:02,215 --> 00:55:03,883
then you never see them again.

1097
00:55:04,884 --> 00:55:08,388
You and I made it a determination,
you were the executive producer,

1098
00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:10,974
that we would continue on
in a relationship.

1099
00:55:11,725 --> 00:55:13,184
That was 40 years ago.

1100
00:55:14,602 --> 00:55:18,815
[Larry] People regret things their whole
life. But I don't ever get that from you.

1101
00:55:18,898 --> 00:55:23,695
No, I'm… I… I… I kind of adhere
to the, uh, Sinatra lyric…

1102
00:55:23,778 --> 00:55:27,741
♪ Regrets I've had a few
But then again, too few to mention ♪

1103
00:55:27,824 --> 00:55:30,118
That's kind of the philosophy
I like to go with.

1104
00:55:32,537 --> 00:55:34,622
I feed the chickens.

1105
00:55:35,248 --> 00:55:37,417
And I gather the eggs.

1106
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:38,710
Big boat.

1107
00:55:38,793 --> 00:55:39,711
The big boat?

1108
00:55:39,794 --> 00:55:40,754
Yeah.

1109
00:55:41,421 --> 00:55:42,297
Did you hear it?

1110
00:55:42,380 --> 00:55:43,923
-I hear it.
-Yeah.

1111
00:55:45,633 --> 00:55:50,388
I remember, in 1987,
Nancy and I bought our house.

1112
00:55:51,264 --> 00:55:54,476
And it was based on two movies
I was about to make.

1113
00:55:55,060 --> 00:55:57,896
The second I signed the mortgage,
one movie fell through.

1114
00:56:00,148 --> 00:56:03,151
I thought, "I don't deserve this."
You know, "I'm 37."

1115
00:56:03,234 --> 00:56:07,280
"I don't deserve to look at the ocean
from my living room."

1116
00:56:09,074 --> 00:56:12,619
I'd say to Nancy,
"What if we can't keep this?"

1117
00:56:12,702 --> 00:56:14,788
"What if we can't sustain it?"

1118
00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:18,375
She said,
"Well, then we'll move." [chuckles]

1119
00:56:18,458 --> 00:56:21,461
It's like, "We're the… we're the gimmick."

1120
00:56:21,961 --> 00:56:22,837
Us.

1121
00:56:22,921 --> 00:56:26,299
And as you can see in his career,
something fails…

1122
00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:27,967
Sorry, it's the truth.

1123
00:56:28,051 --> 00:56:30,261
And he just, the next day,
steps right up to the plate

1124
00:56:30,345 --> 00:56:31,846
and invents something else.

1125
00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:37,143
[Marty] In 1992, I did my first
Broadway musical, with Bernadette Peters.

1126
00:56:37,894 --> 00:56:40,522
-♪ Paula ♪
-♪ That name has a ring to me ♪

1127
00:56:40,605 --> 00:56:44,692
-♪ I'm gaga over Paula ♪
-♪ I tingle when you sing to me ♪

1128
00:56:44,776 --> 00:56:48,863
I get complete satisfaction of doing
a great take in front of a camera.

1129
00:56:48,947 --> 00:56:53,618
But to be in opening night
and finishing a big production number

1130
00:56:53,701 --> 00:56:56,663
and have the audience cheering,
that's out of the movies.

1131
00:56:56,746 --> 00:57:01,960
♪ You have a chip on your shoulder
The size of the Empire State ♪

1132
00:57:02,043 --> 00:57:04,796
[David Letterman] How do you get
a Broadway show? How does that happen?

1133
00:57:04,879 --> 00:57:07,590
Well, the… the…
I was doing a film in San Juan.

1134
00:57:07,674 --> 00:57:10,176
-[Letterman] How does that happen?
-[laughter]

1135
00:57:11,094 --> 00:57:13,638
[Marty] I sing, for example,
but I'm in comedy.

1136
00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:16,558
If you sing in comedy,
you can't legitimately sing.

1137
00:57:16,641 --> 00:57:19,936
Because people are waiting
for the sandbag to drop on you.

1138
00:57:20,019 --> 00:57:22,272
I've seen him before,
but never knew he could sing.

1139
00:57:22,355 --> 00:57:24,524
-I never knew he could sing.
-I didn't know.

1140
00:57:24,607 --> 00:57:25,942
I knew it all along.

1141
00:57:26,443 --> 00:57:28,027
The world finds out tonight.

1142
00:57:28,111 --> 00:57:29,446
It's gonna change your life.

1143
00:57:29,529 --> 00:57:32,407
Well, it's certainly a dream
I always had wanted to do.

1144
00:57:32,490 --> 00:57:36,536
I think that, uh, every actor has to do
a stage experience in New York

1145
00:57:36,619 --> 00:57:39,497
or he's not truly, truly fulfilled
as an actor.

1146
00:57:42,333 --> 00:57:47,589
There are so, um, many, many people
that I… I really must thank

1147
00:57:47,672 --> 00:57:49,799
and should, but

1148
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:53,845
the reality is I did it all myself.

1149
00:57:54,471 --> 00:57:56,473
[laughter and applause]

1150
00:57:56,556 --> 00:57:58,892
He has a new motion picture,
uh, opening up now

1151
00:57:58,975 --> 00:58:02,270
all over the country with Steve Martin,
entitled Father of the Bride.

1152
00:58:02,353 --> 00:58:03,354
Martin…

1153
00:58:03,438 --> 00:58:04,564
[audience cheering]

1154
00:58:04,647 --> 00:58:06,608
People tell me
you're a standout in this film.

1155
00:58:06,691 --> 00:58:08,318
That you steal the motion picture.

1156
00:58:08,401 --> 00:58:11,654
Well, no, I wouldn't say that's true,
but it's a very funny film.

1157
00:58:11,738 --> 00:58:14,073
Uh, how would you describe
Father of the Bride?

1158
00:58:14,157 --> 00:58:16,493
-Well, I think it's a touching film.
-Uh-huh.

1159
00:58:16,576 --> 00:58:20,622
I think it's a comic film. I think it has
very moving emotional moments.

1160
00:58:20,705 --> 00:58:24,042
And it has the high comedy,
and it has the low comedy.

1161
00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:26,127
-[women chuckle]
-Hello!

1162
00:58:26,211 --> 00:58:29,339
I apologize for keeping you waiting.
I'm Franck. A pleasure to meet you.

1163
00:58:30,465 --> 00:58:33,426
[Steve] It's another example
of being so extreme,

1164
00:58:34,177 --> 00:58:35,637
and pulling it off.

1165
00:58:36,262 --> 00:58:37,972
[Marty] The idea was that Franck

1166
00:58:38,056 --> 00:58:42,185
symbolized for Steve Martin
his alienation from the process.

1167
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:46,105
We have problem.
Hanck does not now want to prep a chicken.

1168
00:58:46,189 --> 00:58:47,482
He doesn't what?

1169
00:58:47,565 --> 00:58:50,693
Kimberly Williams and Diane
could understand him,

1170
00:58:50,777 --> 00:58:51,903
and I couldn't.

1171
00:58:52,403 --> 00:58:55,740
But to what degree? What degree?

1172
00:58:56,449 --> 00:58:57,534
Start.

1173
00:58:57,617 --> 00:58:59,285
You have not made up your list yet,

1174
00:58:59,369 --> 00:59:02,664
but you know you want a wedding
at home on January 6th, right?

1175
00:59:02,747 --> 00:59:05,750
The executives, they were apprehensive
about this character.

1176
00:59:05,833 --> 00:59:09,337
You have not made up your list yet,
but you want a wedding at home on January…

1177
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:11,673
And we would keep dialing it down.

1178
00:59:12,257 --> 00:59:14,300
So... you have not made up your list yet,

1179
00:59:14,384 --> 00:59:17,512
but you know you want a wedding
at home on January 6th, right?

1180
00:59:17,595 --> 00:59:18,680
Finally, I remember Steve saying,

1181
00:59:18,763 --> 00:59:21,849
"Guys, there's no joke here.
I understand it perfectly."

1182
00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:24,811
Please, with all due respect,
welcome to the '90s.

1183
00:59:24,894 --> 00:59:29,524
[laughs]

1184
00:59:29,607 --> 00:59:33,194
You can't understand anything you say.
Are you saying anything when you speak?

1185
00:59:33,278 --> 00:59:36,239
I said to Charles,
it's fabulous to be here, you know.

1186
00:59:36,322 --> 00:59:37,865
You look very handsome in the tie.

1187
00:59:37,949 --> 00:59:40,451
I wouldn't go with that color tie,
but that shirt's nice.

1188
00:59:40,535 --> 00:59:41,369
Right.

1189
00:59:41,452 --> 00:59:43,997
Now, Steve plays the father of the bride,

1190
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,500
and, uh, do you like Steve
more than you like me?

1191
00:59:48,126 --> 00:59:49,711
I'll… I'll tell you this,

1192
00:59:49,794 --> 00:59:53,339
and, um, this is going to make me
sound shallow, and it shouldn't

1193
00:59:53,423 --> 00:59:55,592
because if it is,
then I'm being misinterpreted.

1194
00:59:55,675 --> 00:59:58,177
Steve can do more for me than you.

1195
00:59:58,261 --> 00:59:59,345
[chuckles]

1196
00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:02,599
Can you just act like a human boy
for one minute here?

1197
01:00:03,182 --> 01:00:04,726
Look at me like a person.

1198
01:00:05,226 --> 01:00:08,646
You can't do it for more than a few
seconds. Look at me like a human boy!

1199
01:00:09,147 --> 01:00:10,440
Don't mess around with me.

1200
01:00:11,024 --> 01:00:12,817
You're gonna be back on that plane.

1201
01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:14,694
You understand me?

1202
01:00:15,194 --> 01:00:17,238
I understand that I love you.

1203
01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:20,366
I was 40 when I played
a ten-year-old named Clifford.

1204
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:23,745
Marty Short is a great actor,

1205
01:00:23,828 --> 01:00:25,705
and because he does comedic characters,

1206
01:00:25,788 --> 01:00:27,832
possibly people don't recognize
that as much,

1207
01:00:27,915 --> 01:00:30,418
but, you know,
comedic characters aren't easier.

1208
01:00:30,501 --> 01:00:31,544
They're harder.

1209
01:00:33,421 --> 01:00:35,923
[Larry King] Are you…
are you a comedian who acts, Martin,

1210
01:00:36,007 --> 01:00:38,343
or are you an actor who likes comedy?

1211
01:00:38,426 --> 01:00:41,554
I guess I'm an actor who does comedy,

1212
01:00:42,472 --> 01:00:44,557
or anything you have.

1213
01:00:44,641 --> 01:00:45,600
[man chuckles]

1214
01:00:45,683 --> 01:00:48,227
Kind of impatient
for a big-time headshrinker, aren't you?

1215
01:00:49,228 --> 01:00:51,272
How about you let me explain it
my way, okay?

1216
01:00:51,356 --> 01:00:52,857
Thanks, that'd be great.

1217
01:00:53,358 --> 01:00:55,860
[Larry] What makes a movie
attractive to you?

1218
01:00:55,943 --> 01:00:57,528
It's not the money…

1219
01:00:57,612 --> 01:00:59,781
Mm-hmm. It's money.

1220
01:00:59,864 --> 01:01:01,616
[upbeat music plays]

1221
01:01:01,699 --> 01:01:03,326
May I have the camera, please?

1222
01:01:04,786 --> 01:01:05,953
Yeah, sure, boss.

1223
01:01:07,246 --> 01:01:12,335
[Marty] Well over 90% of my career
was a total and utter commercial failure.

1224
01:01:13,002 --> 01:01:17,507
But I was in enough successful things
to keep the wheels spinning.

1225
01:01:17,590 --> 01:01:20,593
You mean they can read our thoughts?

1226
01:01:20,677 --> 01:01:22,303
I don't know you.

1227
01:01:22,387 --> 01:01:23,513
I don't know your work.

1228
01:01:24,097 --> 01:01:27,475
But I think that you are
a very, very talented young man,

1229
01:01:27,558 --> 01:01:29,560
and I'm never wrong about these things.

1230
01:01:30,603 --> 01:01:32,397
I… I've never had a big game plan.

1231
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,567
I… I've never been
necessarily commercially, uh, savvy.

1232
01:01:37,318 --> 01:01:38,152
Asshole.

1233
01:01:38,236 --> 01:01:39,570
Yes?

1234
01:01:39,654 --> 01:01:40,947
I've had lots of things fail.

1235
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:42,365
I've never then looked in the mirror
and said,

1236
01:01:42,448 --> 01:01:45,284
"I am not worthy.
I've been… I've been put in my place."

1237
01:01:45,368 --> 01:01:47,870
You are actually a predator.

1238
01:01:48,871 --> 01:01:50,832
People are gonna want you to own that.

1239
01:01:55,253 --> 01:01:56,963
As opposed to…

1240
01:01:59,257 --> 01:02:01,426
What are you exactly, Mitch?

1241
01:02:02,009 --> 01:02:07,056
I think it's insane if someone says, "Oh,
I had a horrible time making that movie."

1242
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:10,560
"I hated making that movie,
but please let it be successful."

1243
01:02:10,643 --> 01:02:13,521
If it's only gonna be successful
at the box office,

1244
01:02:13,604 --> 01:02:15,773
that's very unlikely.

1245
01:02:16,357 --> 01:02:20,194
The experience you can have in your soul
is the experience of doing it.

1246
01:02:20,278 --> 01:02:23,823
Was it creative? Was it fun?
Did you have fun dinners?

1247
01:02:23,906 --> 01:02:25,950
Was the hang good?

1248
01:02:27,326 --> 01:02:28,286
What's that?

1249
01:02:28,369 --> 01:02:29,662
Aha!

1250
01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:33,458
♪ Entertainment tonight! ♪

1251
01:02:33,541 --> 01:02:37,545
♪ Entertainment tonight! ♪

1252
01:02:38,045 --> 01:02:40,047
[birds chirp]

1253
01:02:53,561 --> 01:02:56,606
We're staging a breakfast.
I've already eaten.

1254
01:02:57,899 --> 01:03:00,026
Oh my God, am I hungry.

1255
01:03:01,319 --> 01:03:03,279
[exhales] Famished.

1256
01:03:03,988 --> 01:03:05,364
Oh boy.

1257
01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:09,702
Mm, it's so good.

1258
01:03:15,958 --> 01:03:17,293
It's Snug Harbour,

1259
01:03:17,376 --> 01:03:20,838
and I'm having my first
vodka tonic of the season.

1260
01:03:21,339 --> 01:03:23,883
For, you see,
it's the first day of summer.

1261
01:03:23,966 --> 01:03:25,635
I s… I s…

1262
01:03:26,135 --> 01:03:27,094
I say…

1263
01:03:27,637 --> 01:03:30,139
I… I say
it's the first day of summer, Henry.

1264
01:03:30,223 --> 01:03:32,350
-[Nancy] Are you happy to be here, Daddy?
-Yes.

1265
01:03:33,476 --> 01:03:36,938
[Marty] Our fabulous cottage
that we own in Canada…

1266
01:03:37,021 --> 01:03:38,564
[Katherine] Mom, watch how high I go.

1267
01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:40,608
[Marty] …was bought by Nancy,

1268
01:03:41,108 --> 01:03:43,194
sight unseen by me.

1269
01:03:43,277 --> 01:03:44,904
And those are the children.

1270
01:03:45,738 --> 01:03:47,740
I remember standing at the counter

1271
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:50,076
while she told Marty
that she had bought the cottage.

1272
01:03:51,035 --> 01:03:52,912
I said, "Nancy, has he seen the cottage?"

1273
01:03:52,995 --> 01:03:54,539
"No, he hasn't seen it."

1274
01:03:54,622 --> 01:03:58,835
And I'm thinking, "God, I…
Could I do that? Maybe I should do that."

1275
01:04:00,378 --> 01:04:01,921
[Catherine] I always did whatever
Nancy told me.

1276
01:04:02,004 --> 01:04:03,464
That's part of Nancy's character.

1277
01:04:03,548 --> 01:04:06,926
"Larry, why don't you go get those,
and pick them up and bring them here?"

1278
01:04:07,009 --> 01:04:10,388
"Yes, Nancy." Wouldn't you just do
whatever she told you to do?

1279
01:04:10,888 --> 01:04:14,141
She had such… loving authority.

1280
01:04:14,225 --> 01:04:15,059
[laughs]

1281
01:04:15,142 --> 01:04:16,936
[Nancy] Hey, say something funny.

1282
01:04:17,019 --> 01:04:19,063
Oh… Oh, uh…

1283
01:04:19,564 --> 01:04:21,315
Here… Here with the guys…

1284
01:04:21,399 --> 01:04:22,316
[imitates choking]

1285
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,402
[gentle music plays]

1286
01:04:25,570 --> 01:04:28,364
It is one of those places
that when you come here,

1287
01:04:28,447 --> 01:04:32,493
even if you haven't been here for a year,
you feel like you haven't left.

1288
01:04:34,203 --> 01:04:37,415
I always thought it was like
if heaven existed,

1289
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,962
then maybe heaven is
your favorite place in eternity.

1290
01:04:44,505 --> 01:04:46,632
And that would be this place.

1291
01:04:46,716 --> 01:04:47,967
[music fades]

1292
01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:52,722
There's Meg Kasdan.

1293
01:04:53,222 --> 01:04:54,348
[Nancy] Let go, Ollie.

1294
01:04:54,432 --> 01:04:55,725
Hi, Marty.

1295
01:04:55,808 --> 01:04:59,645
-[Marty] Hello. Welcome to Snug Harbour.
-Thank you. It's quite fabulous.

1296
01:04:59,729 --> 01:05:01,731
[Marty] And there, of course,

1297
01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:04,025
Larry Kasdan.

1298
01:05:04,108 --> 01:05:05,234
Hello, Martin.

1299
01:05:05,318 --> 01:05:06,444
[Marty] Hi, Lar.

1300
01:05:06,527 --> 01:05:10,448
It's so great here. Congratulations
to you on this fabulous place.

1301
01:05:10,531 --> 01:05:14,160
[Marty] Thank you. Well, I couldn't
have done it without Cross My Heart.

1302
01:05:14,243 --> 01:05:15,202
[Meg laughs]

1303
01:05:15,286 --> 01:05:17,705
-Well, I feel re…
-[Marty laughs]

1304
01:05:17,788 --> 01:05:19,415
Responsible for some of it.

1305
01:05:21,375 --> 01:05:23,002
[laughs]

1306
01:05:23,085 --> 01:05:27,214
[Paul] From the moment that you get there,
it's full-on Marty's world.

1307
01:05:27,298 --> 01:05:30,301
[cheering]

1308
01:05:30,384 --> 01:05:31,594
[gentle music plays]

1309
01:05:31,677 --> 01:05:34,180
[indistinct chatter]

1310
01:05:35,973 --> 01:05:38,809
[Marty] Excuse me, Andrea.
What are you playing, kids?

1311
01:05:38,893 --> 01:05:39,852
Monopoly.

1312
01:05:40,853 --> 01:05:42,188
Burgers on the barbecue.

1313
01:05:42,271 --> 01:05:45,107
We got some Canadian produce
being cut up in the kitchen

1314
01:05:45,191 --> 01:05:49,695
that Catherine O'Hara
is graciously preparing.

1315
01:05:49,779 --> 01:05:50,696
[Marty] Wow.

1316
01:05:50,780 --> 01:05:51,656
Welcome...

1317
01:05:51,739 --> 01:05:54,575
Oh, thank you so much
for letting us enjoy…

1318
01:05:54,659 --> 01:05:56,994
-[Marty] to Dolshor Manor.
-…the beauty of Snug Harbour.

1319
01:05:57,495 --> 01:06:00,873
[Marty] It is good.
Does your agent know you're here?

1320
01:06:02,875 --> 01:06:06,754
Oh, my agent's not interested
in where I am at any time.

1321
01:06:08,923 --> 01:06:10,925
[Nancy] Have you had any pie
since you've been here?

1322
01:06:11,008 --> 01:06:12,051
Lots of pie, yeah.

1323
01:06:12,134 --> 01:06:14,971
-I… I don't…
-Well, I'm... I look like Gleason.

1324
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,266
And he gives you this drink
that he found in Jamaica.

1325
01:06:20,059 --> 01:06:24,188
Ting. Now I'm gonna make you a drink.

1326
01:06:24,689 --> 01:06:25,606
Ow.

1327
01:06:25,690 --> 01:06:27,316
[jaunty music plays]

1328
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,527
Oh, yeah. That's right.
You have an alcohol problem.

1329
01:06:30,027 --> 01:06:30,945
There we go.

1330
01:06:31,028 --> 01:06:32,738
We use the ice.

1331
01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:35,616
And by the way,
I feel that bathing is for suckers,

1332
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:37,618
so I haven't washed these for a while.

1333
01:06:37,702 --> 01:06:39,328
Then you open the Ting.

1334
01:06:42,123 --> 01:06:44,208
Ooh. Ooh.

1335
01:06:44,291 --> 01:06:45,126
[Larry laughs]

1336
01:06:45,209 --> 01:06:47,503
Ooh. There you go.

1337
01:06:47,586 --> 01:06:49,588
[indistinct chatter]

1338
01:06:53,551 --> 01:06:55,511
[shrieking]

1339
01:06:55,594 --> 01:06:56,595
[laughter]

1340
01:06:56,679 --> 01:06:59,432
This is my little girl. My little…

1341
01:06:59,932 --> 01:07:01,434
[Marty] Come on, Tom. Yes.

1342
01:07:01,517 --> 01:07:02,435
-Sixty…
-[woman] 73!

1343
01:07:02,518 --> 01:07:05,604
Sixty-nine! O sixty-nine!

1344
01:07:06,772 --> 01:07:09,775
Oh, Marty. Me with my extra weight.

1345
01:07:10,609 --> 01:07:12,028
[boy] Try not to hit it too hard.

1346
01:07:12,111 --> 01:07:13,904
Hello? Hi.

1347
01:07:13,988 --> 01:07:16,157
[Marty] Yes, it's Snug '96.

1348
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,242
-What happened, honey?
-I don't know. It's my groin.

1349
01:07:18,325 --> 01:07:19,952
Must be something I did last night.

1350
01:07:20,036 --> 01:07:22,371
[Marty cackles]

1351
01:07:22,455 --> 01:07:24,331
-[Marty] Oh boy.
-There she goes.

1352
01:07:25,791 --> 01:07:29,128
[Eugene] He's the most connected man
here in Hollywood.

1353
01:07:29,628 --> 01:07:34,800
He knows everybody from the top
to the very bottom of the top.

1354
01:07:34,884 --> 01:07:36,886
[plays lively tune]

1355
01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:40,139
[Marty] We're as happy as we've ever been.

1356
01:07:41,766 --> 01:07:43,726
This is our eldest son, Tom.

1357
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,104
Tom, are you ever gonna get a job?

1358
01:07:47,188 --> 01:07:50,232
Uh-uh, Daddy.
I just love the Canadian woods.

1359
01:07:51,275 --> 01:07:52,902
[Marty] We love him, though.

1360
01:07:53,569 --> 01:07:57,948
[Tom] When we first met Marty,
he got up and did a Tony Bennett imitation

1361
01:07:58,032 --> 01:08:00,743
of singing
"I Left My Heart in San Francisco."

1362
01:08:00,826 --> 01:08:03,829
I had that moment of realizing

1363
01:08:03,913 --> 01:08:09,460
I'm gonna hang around with this guy
at every opportunity I… I can muster.

1364
01:08:09,543 --> 01:08:10,669
[Marty] Tommy!

1365
01:08:11,754 --> 01:08:13,172
I love when you mug.

1366
01:08:13,255 --> 01:08:15,216
[Rita] Our kids were the same age,

1367
01:08:15,299 --> 01:08:20,971
so we would do
these big family barbecues and dinners.

1368
01:08:21,055 --> 01:08:23,140
And we would just hang out together

1369
01:08:23,224 --> 01:08:27,103
because, I mean, who doesn't want
to be around Marty anyway?

1370
01:08:27,186 --> 01:08:29,188
[indistinct chatter]

1371
01:08:30,898 --> 01:08:34,151
-[Walter] Anyone gonna like some red wine?
-[man 2] I'd love some.

1372
01:08:34,235 --> 01:08:36,320
We were in similar points in our lives.

1373
01:08:36,403 --> 01:08:37,988
-Mm-hmm. Yeah, we were.
-Yeah.

1374
01:08:38,072 --> 01:08:39,740
[Kate] We have Miss Nancy Short.

1375
01:08:39,824 --> 01:08:41,408
Happy Mom's Day, Kate.

1376
01:08:41,492 --> 01:08:45,329
[Kate] A mom that I truly admire.
And we have Oliver.

1377
01:08:45,412 --> 01:08:46,747
Mr. Henry Short.

1378
01:08:47,248 --> 01:08:50,709
Tom and I go way back with Rita and Kate.

1379
01:08:51,794 --> 01:08:55,631
[Tom] We all had kids of the same age.
That was a big deal.

1380
01:08:55,714 --> 01:08:58,050
So a lot of times,
you just work it some way,

1381
01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:01,762
"Let's throw these rugrats all together
so maybe we can have a conversation."

1382
01:09:03,472 --> 01:09:05,766
I think all of us together probably had,

1383
01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:08,644
I don't know, 17, 15…
It was a lot of kids.

1384
01:09:09,228 --> 01:09:10,521
[girl] Pass that to me.

1385
01:09:10,604 --> 01:09:15,317
I think the real tell about Marty's heart
is how much my kids love Marty.

1386
01:09:15,818 --> 01:09:17,236
And from very, very young ages,

1387
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:19,697
how my kids just wanted to be with Marty,

1388
01:09:19,780 --> 01:09:22,408
wanted to walk over during a dinner
and sit with Marty

1389
01:09:22,491 --> 01:09:24,785
and talk to Marty and show off for Marty.

1390
01:09:24,869 --> 01:09:26,537
Take that off you, Sawyer!

1391
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:29,415
-That's mine!
-Now wait a second. Lucy, Ethel?

1392
01:09:29,498 --> 01:09:31,417
Lucy! Ethel!

1393
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:33,210
♪ I will still be… ♪ Oh!

1394
01:09:33,294 --> 01:09:35,963
♪ Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
If you're ever… ♪

1395
01:09:36,046 --> 01:09:37,673
That's exactly what Ricky did.

1396
01:09:38,507 --> 01:09:40,217
[Nancy] Who must they love, darling?

1397
01:09:40,301 --> 01:09:42,720
It is my birthday, don't you see?

1398
01:09:42,803 --> 01:09:45,931
Well, my request is "Love only me."

1399
01:09:47,016 --> 01:09:49,518
Not your stupid parents.

1400
01:09:49,602 --> 01:09:51,353
Tom and Rita.

1401
01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:53,314
Boring!

1402
01:09:53,397 --> 01:09:55,482
[kids laugh]

1403
01:09:55,566 --> 01:09:58,194
And Steven and Kate.
Been there, done that.

1404
01:09:58,277 --> 01:09:59,486
[kids laugh]

1405
01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:03,574
He holds friendship right after family
as the most important thing.

1406
01:10:04,366 --> 01:10:08,579
We're talking about a dynamic
that is not easy to pull off,

1407
01:10:08,662 --> 01:10:14,001
where I'm best friends with the men,
and Steven's best friends with the women.

1408
01:10:14,084 --> 01:10:16,253
-So it made it really…
-Mm-hmm.

1409
01:10:16,337 --> 01:10:19,423
Didn't you make a movie about that, Larry?

1410
01:10:19,924 --> 01:10:22,384
Marty! Marty! Come on,
you gotta do this dance.

1411
01:10:22,468 --> 01:10:24,470
[upbeat music plays]

1412
01:10:28,682 --> 01:10:29,808
Now just like…

1413
01:10:29,892 --> 01:10:33,270
[Steven] I could never keep up
with the repartee

1414
01:10:33,354 --> 01:10:37,650
between Tom and Marty and Walter.

1415
01:10:37,733 --> 01:10:41,528
So what I resorted to was my video camera.

1416
01:10:41,612 --> 01:10:44,865
These are the bloody footprints
from the last dive.

1417
01:10:44,949 --> 01:10:46,408
Look at the evidence.

1418
01:10:46,492 --> 01:10:48,702
Marty and Tom got this idea.

1419
01:10:48,786 --> 01:10:53,082
"Hey, let's do that scene
from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid."

1420
01:10:56,877 --> 01:10:59,880
This is very sad, I must say,
'cause we're gonna be killed, you know.

1421
01:10:59,964 --> 01:11:02,216
Just get ready to shoot the bad guys.

1422
01:11:02,299 --> 01:11:05,177
There's only one way out.
So we should jump, I must say.

1423
01:11:05,261 --> 01:11:06,887
I know, we'll get shot.

1424
01:11:06,971 --> 01:11:07,930
So let's go.

1425
01:11:09,807 --> 01:11:11,517
-I'll jump first.
-Nope.

1426
01:11:12,059 --> 01:11:13,477
-Then you jump first.
-No, I said!

1427
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,146
-What's the matter with you?
-I can't swim!

1428
01:11:18,148 --> 01:11:23,112
[laughs]

1429
01:11:24,029 --> 01:11:27,074
What, are you crazy?
The fall will probably kill ya.

1430
01:11:27,157 --> 01:11:31,996
Mama always said jumping off cliffs
is like a box of chocolates.

1431
01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:35,040
-You never know what you might get.
-...might get. Yeah, you're right.

1432
01:11:35,124 --> 01:11:37,668
-Come on, Forrest.
-I can't swim.

1433
01:11:38,168 --> 01:11:39,962
[Marty laughs]

1434
01:11:40,045 --> 01:11:41,588
Oh, that's very funny.

1435
01:11:41,672 --> 01:11:45,050
For heaven's sakes,
the fall will kill us, I must say.

1436
01:11:45,134 --> 01:11:46,927
[Butch and Sundance yell]

1437
01:11:47,011 --> 01:11:48,971
Oh shit!

1438
01:11:49,054 --> 01:11:51,765
-Oh shit!
-Oh shit!

1439
01:11:51,849 --> 01:11:53,726
[Steven giggles]

1440
01:11:54,518 --> 01:11:57,354
[laughter]

1441
01:12:00,524 --> 01:12:03,902
[announcer] Now we go out and about
with Jiminy Glick.

1442
01:12:04,570 --> 01:12:08,907
We have a wonderful full-fledged icon
to interview.

1443
01:12:08,991 --> 01:12:11,493
Steven Spielberg's with us. Hi, Steven.

1444
01:12:11,577 --> 01:12:14,413
-Hello, Jiminy, nice to see you.
-Have you won an Oscar?

1445
01:12:14,913 --> 01:12:16,498
-Yes, sir.
-How come?

1446
01:12:17,082 --> 01:12:21,003
And then… And you've made so many films.
When are you gonna do the big one?

1447
01:12:22,004 --> 01:12:24,965
Wow. How… What do you mean, big one?

1448
01:12:25,049 --> 01:12:27,134
Something that clicks with the public.

1449
01:12:27,217 --> 01:12:29,595
Yeah. I'd love to see it
'cause I think you're good.

1450
01:12:29,678 --> 01:12:30,929
[applause]

1451
01:12:31,013 --> 01:12:33,974
[Larry King] Jiminy Glick,
a legend in his own mind.

1452
01:12:34,058 --> 01:12:36,894
An interviewer far beyond interviewers.

1453
01:12:36,977 --> 01:12:40,272
He asks questions nobody wants to answer.

1454
01:12:40,773 --> 01:12:42,608
-Would you like a donut?
-I would love a donut.

1455
01:12:42,691 --> 01:12:43,525
[sneezes]

1456
01:12:44,276 --> 01:12:45,778
[sniffs] Oh!

1457
01:12:45,861 --> 01:12:47,488
Stupid COVID!

1458
01:12:47,571 --> 01:12:48,655
Here you go.

1459
01:12:48,739 --> 01:12:53,786
You know, the premise is bad interviewer
who doesn't know much about the person.

1460
01:12:53,869 --> 01:12:55,913
You're confusing me
with the actor Michael Keaton,

1461
01:12:55,996 --> 01:12:58,123
who is an acquaintance of mine,
who is also a very good actor.

1462
01:12:58,207 --> 01:13:01,919
In fact, your styles are totally different
because Keaton is very realistic.

1463
01:13:02,503 --> 01:13:05,589
And you tend to do
that kind of, "Oh, say what?"

1464
01:13:05,672 --> 01:13:08,425
Which is wonderful.
Hold on, please. Someone's…

1465
01:13:08,926 --> 01:13:09,802
Hello?

1466
01:13:10,594 --> 01:13:11,637
Oh, hi, Dixie.

1467
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,182
He can be that fearless
in saying negative things

1468
01:13:15,265 --> 01:13:17,101
that are close to home,

1469
01:13:17,184 --> 01:13:20,104
and the people he's interviewing
can be laughing.

1470
01:13:20,187 --> 01:13:21,730
Just 'cause the eyes are so dull

1471
01:13:21,814 --> 01:13:25,943
doesn't mean that there's not
a machinery of wheels clicking away.

1472
01:13:26,026 --> 01:13:27,903
I was hoping for an A-lister,

1473
01:13:27,986 --> 01:13:31,240
but I'm thrilled to have you, Bill… Hader.

1474
01:13:31,323 --> 01:13:34,618
-It's not really a star's name, is it?
-No.

1475
01:13:34,701 --> 01:13:37,704
-No, like Leo DiCaprio captures you.
-Yes. That's true.

1476
01:13:37,788 --> 01:13:40,624
But Bill Hader sounds like a guy
who would do inside windows.

1477
01:13:40,707 --> 01:13:42,000
[laughs]

1478
01:13:42,084 --> 01:13:45,921
You really see what Marty thinks
of a career in show business.

1479
01:13:46,004 --> 01:13:48,382
-[Marty] When does the film come out?
-July 11th.

1480
01:13:48,465 --> 01:13:49,842
Oh, I'm gonna be away.

1481
01:13:49,925 --> 01:13:52,136
You get a lot of bad reviews.

1482
01:13:52,219 --> 01:13:55,889
How does that make you feel
and how do you handle it, Steve Martin?

1483
01:13:55,973 --> 01:13:58,308
Well, first of all, you know,
a lot of people get bad reviews.

1484
01:13:58,392 --> 01:14:00,227
Charlie Chaplin got bad reviews.

1485
01:14:00,310 --> 01:14:01,437
Mm-mm.

1486
01:14:02,020 --> 01:14:03,522
Buster Keaton got bad reviews.

1487
01:14:03,605 --> 01:14:07,401
No, not really.
Not… not… not on the level you get them.

1488
01:14:07,901 --> 01:14:11,113
I was always fascinated
by morons with power.

1489
01:14:11,196 --> 01:14:14,741
You flip around daytime television,
and there's a person with a show.

1490
01:14:14,825 --> 01:14:17,202
They've got assistants,
and that assistant's sweating

1491
01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:19,580
because their tuna fish sandwich was late.

1492
01:14:19,663 --> 01:14:22,040
And, "What kind of tuna fish is this?"

1493
01:14:22,124 --> 01:14:23,417
Wonderful. Call you back.

1494
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,587
-Hi. Leah, and how are you doing?
-[Leah] How are you today, Mr. Glick?

1495
01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:29,923
Yellow highlighters I don't like
because they're not fun.

1496
01:14:30,007 --> 01:14:32,593
I wanted to create a character
who would go to junkets.

1497
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:35,137
I'd made a film called Pure Luck

1498
01:14:35,220 --> 01:14:38,891
where I was stung by a bee
and I had a reaction.

1499
01:14:39,516 --> 01:14:43,020
And I remember Nancy was on the set,
saying, "I cannot see you in there."

1500
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,980
And I loved that.

1501
01:14:45,063 --> 01:14:46,773
And the Emmys were coming up.

1502
01:14:47,274 --> 01:14:48,650
Hi, this is Jiminy Glick

1503
01:14:48,734 --> 01:14:50,736
of Jiminy Glick's Lalawood.

1504
01:14:50,819 --> 01:14:53,572
And I am so excited
to be at the Emmy Awards.

1505
01:14:53,655 --> 01:14:57,576
I wanted to go out and honestly…
And not be seen as myself.

1506
01:14:57,659 --> 01:15:00,245
I'm talking with John Legworth… Lig… Lock…

1507
01:15:00,329 --> 01:15:02,039
-John. Just John.
-Lockwo…

1508
01:15:02,122 --> 01:15:03,540
You used to do circus work.

1509
01:15:03,624 --> 01:15:05,125
I was a freak for a while.

1510
01:15:05,209 --> 01:15:07,669
And often people wear stilts doing that,
but you didn't need them.

1511
01:15:07,753 --> 01:15:10,589
I didn't need them.
I'm a big, gangly freak. And what…

1512
01:15:11,173 --> 01:15:13,592
That tastes actually nice. What's on that?

1513
01:15:13,675 --> 01:15:16,512
It's great to see you again.
You look like you've lost a lot of weight.

1514
01:15:16,595 --> 01:15:19,348
Well, I've had liposuction
from every possible opening.

1515
01:15:19,431 --> 01:15:23,852
I feel like he could improvise
Jiminy Glick to eternity.

1516
01:15:23,936 --> 01:15:24,895
Couldn't he?

1517
01:15:24,978 --> 01:15:26,438
-You…
-[Julia Louis-Dreyfus] Yes?

1518
01:15:26,522 --> 01:15:27,648
…are a special spirit.

1519
01:15:27,731 --> 01:15:29,816
-Thank you very much.
-[laughs]

1520
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:31,985
Oh, I hadn't heard the laugh yet.

1521
01:15:32,486 --> 01:15:35,572
He's got his highs,
and then he's got his lows.

1522
01:15:36,073 --> 01:15:41,078
And he never fails
to come up with the right word

1523
01:15:41,161 --> 01:15:44,164
when he hits his lows.

1524
01:15:44,248 --> 01:15:46,583
You know? Kinko-Belobo.

1525
01:15:46,667 --> 01:15:48,418
Oh my God, I don't think that's true.

1526
01:15:48,502 --> 01:15:50,546
[John Mulaney] It's real
Dada entertainment.

1527
01:15:50,629 --> 01:15:54,383
It's real, like, this is all bullshit,

1528
01:15:54,466 --> 01:15:58,554
and our career is
sitting across from a buffoon like this.

1529
01:15:58,637 --> 01:16:00,472
-Thanks.
-Interview over, man. Done deal.

1530
01:16:00,556 --> 01:16:02,182
Oh my God.

1531
01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:03,892
Someone phone a replacement.

1532
01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:06,562
It's a really punk rock character.

1533
01:16:07,145 --> 01:16:09,565
What's your big beef with the Nazis?

1534
01:16:10,566 --> 01:16:12,109
What's my big beef?

1535
01:16:12,192 --> 01:16:15,112
-[Marty] It seems you're always knocking--
-What's my big beef?

1536
01:16:15,195 --> 01:16:17,030
You're always knocking the Nazis.
"Oh, let's…"

1537
01:16:17,114 --> 01:16:21,159
It's… it's time for Mel Brooks
to knock the Nazis, it seems.

1538
01:16:21,660 --> 01:16:23,495
You don't want the headlines, do you?

1539
01:16:23,579 --> 01:16:26,498
I don't want it, and yet,
when I'm home and I see…

1540
01:16:26,582 --> 01:16:27,416
When I'm--

1541
01:16:27,499 --> 01:16:28,625
[laughter]

1542
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:30,961
But there's such subtlety

1543
01:16:32,004 --> 01:16:33,338
with… with Jiminy too.

1544
01:16:33,422 --> 01:16:36,341
That soft side, that empathetic side,

1545
01:16:36,425 --> 01:16:38,802
and… and just the… the levels.

1546
01:16:38,885 --> 01:16:41,888
Every level of comedy
is there with Jiminy.

1547
01:16:41,972 --> 01:16:44,975
[Marty] You have to keep constantly
making it interesting for yourself.

1548
01:16:45,058 --> 01:16:47,603
What you have to do is just say,
"This will be fun to me."

1549
01:16:47,686 --> 01:16:50,480
"I look forward to doing this.
This will make me want to work."

1550
01:16:50,564 --> 01:16:53,442
"I wanna show my friends this show."
That's what you want to do.

1551
01:16:53,942 --> 01:16:56,445
This has been absolutely so much fun.

1552
01:16:56,528 --> 01:17:01,325
This is the craziest fucking interview
I've ever done in my life.

1553
01:17:01,408 --> 01:17:02,284
[laughs]

1554
01:17:08,999 --> 01:17:12,461
[Marty] It's Christmas 2003.

1555
01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:17,090
Fourteen-year-old Henry Short
has done the tree basically this year.

1556
01:17:17,841 --> 01:17:18,842
[Henry] Yeah, looks good.

1557
01:17:19,343 --> 01:17:20,969
-Like that?
-[Henry] Uh-huh.

1558
01:17:22,387 --> 01:17:23,722
[Marty] We always have a Christmas party
at our house,

1559
01:17:23,805 --> 01:17:25,265
and people get up and perform.

1560
01:17:25,349 --> 01:17:30,896
♪ It's the most wonderful time
Of the year ♪

1561
01:17:32,272 --> 01:17:35,776
♪ It's the hap… happiest season of all ♪

1562
01:17:35,859 --> 01:17:37,152
Is anybody else here?

1563
01:17:37,653 --> 01:17:40,656
Marty, who's doing his thing
to open the show,

1564
01:17:40,739 --> 01:17:45,202
and then commenting on what you did
when you left,

1565
01:17:45,285 --> 01:17:47,037
as if you didn't feel bad enough.

1566
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,789
[Marty] Who remembers Home Alone?

1567
01:17:48,872 --> 01:17:50,749
[cheering]

1568
01:17:50,832 --> 01:17:52,793
And I'm sure there's been others.

1569
01:17:52,876 --> 01:17:54,252
[laughter]

1570
01:17:54,336 --> 01:17:56,338
["Sleigh Ride" plays]

1571
01:17:58,006 --> 01:17:58,882
[music stops]

1572
01:17:58,965 --> 01:17:59,841
[rhythmic slapping]

1573
01:17:59,925 --> 01:18:01,176
[jaunty music resumes]

1574
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,097
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Danny Aykroyd.

1575
01:18:05,597 --> 01:18:07,474
And I'm Glenn Frey, the happy Eagle.

1576
01:18:07,557 --> 01:18:08,892
[laughter]

1577
01:18:08,975 --> 01:18:11,353
♪ The bells will be ringin'… ♪

1578
01:18:11,436 --> 01:18:12,646
[cheering]

1579
01:18:12,729 --> 01:18:15,774
♪ The sad, sad news ♪

1580
01:18:16,775 --> 01:18:18,151
Sally Field, ladies and gentlemen.

1581
01:18:18,819 --> 01:18:20,237
-[Tom] Oh!
-[Marty] There we go.

1582
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,072
[laughter]

1583
01:18:22,155 --> 01:18:23,240
There we go.

1584
01:18:23,323 --> 01:18:24,950
Sally Field, ladies and gentlemen.

1585
01:18:25,033 --> 01:18:28,829
Well, we have the ultimate jerk here.
Steve Martin is with us.

1586
01:18:29,329 --> 01:18:31,248
[Steve] It was a little bit of work.

1587
01:18:31,331 --> 01:18:35,460
One time, I spent six months learning
how to play "Auld Lang Syne" on the banjo.

1588
01:18:35,544 --> 01:18:38,171
Well, now, I gotta think
of a fucking song to sing.

1589
01:18:38,255 --> 01:18:41,049
I just can't go
and have some macaroni and cheese

1590
01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:42,926
like normal people.

1591
01:18:43,009 --> 01:18:45,011
I gotta hire a vocal coach.

1592
01:18:45,095 --> 01:18:47,681
[women sing]

1593
01:18:47,764 --> 01:18:49,474
♪ May your days… ♪

1594
01:18:49,558 --> 01:18:53,562
[Rita] The Christmas party had become so
popular, it got too big for their house.

1595
01:18:53,645 --> 01:18:57,065
I said, "Nancy,
how are you gonna cull the list?"

1596
01:18:57,149 --> 01:19:01,069
She goes, "Honey, if they don't know
my kids' names, they ain't coming."

1597
01:19:01,153 --> 01:19:05,991
♪ Christmases be white ♪

1598
01:19:07,492 --> 01:19:08,952
[Marty] The storm is coming.

1599
01:19:13,749 --> 01:19:14,750
[door bangs]

1600
01:19:17,544 --> 01:19:19,963
[thunder crashes]

1601
01:19:20,672 --> 01:19:22,340
It's… it's coming.

1602
01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:28,096
Did you hear that?

1603
01:19:28,847 --> 01:19:29,806
[door closes]

1604
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,184
Should I pick the kids up?

1605
01:19:32,976 --> 01:19:35,270
[Nancy] Yeah, I don't want
Ollie driving now.

1606
01:19:35,771 --> 01:19:36,813
[Marty] Yeah, okay.

1607
01:19:37,981 --> 01:19:39,483
[Nancy] So you better phone.

1608
01:19:40,275 --> 01:19:42,569
Well, maybe we should just have dinner
at the club then.

1609
01:19:42,652 --> 01:19:45,530
-[Marty] Let's do that.
-All right. Can you phone and see?

1610
01:19:45,614 --> 01:19:46,823
[Marty] Oh my God!

1611
01:19:47,324 --> 01:19:50,952
Oh my dear Lord in heaven. I…

1612
01:19:51,036 --> 01:19:52,954
This isn't really what I look like.

1613
01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:54,790
-[phone ringing]
-[Marty] Nancy.

1614
01:19:54,873 --> 01:19:56,750
[Nancy] Get the phone! [squeals]

1615
01:19:57,667 --> 01:20:00,879
I… I heard a shrink talk once
that said certain couples

1616
01:20:01,546 --> 01:20:03,757
relate directly to each other.

1617
01:20:04,257 --> 01:20:07,093
And certain couples relate through things.

1618
01:20:08,303 --> 01:20:10,639
And they just relate in a different way.

1619
01:20:11,348 --> 01:20:13,141
And they related like this.

1620
01:20:14,851 --> 01:20:18,188
She thought everything
he said was hilarious.

1621
01:20:18,730 --> 01:20:21,817
And it was a sincere laughter.

1622
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:23,401
[laughter]

1623
01:20:23,902 --> 01:20:25,737
It wasn't like a wife doing it.

1624
01:20:25,821 --> 01:20:28,240
It was like a person laughing.

1625
01:20:28,323 --> 01:20:30,116
You know, "Tell that story again."

1626
01:20:32,035 --> 01:20:34,204
[Andrea] She was his biggest fan.

1627
01:20:34,287 --> 01:20:38,625
Nothing is more touching when you
look back at the videos that he has.

1628
01:20:39,292 --> 01:20:43,088
And the camera looks at her watching him,

1629
01:20:43,588 --> 01:20:46,341
and her laughing uncontrollably.

1630
01:20:47,092 --> 01:20:48,385
Not to fill his ego.

1631
01:20:48,468 --> 01:20:51,388
Just because she felt he was genuinely

1632
01:20:51,888 --> 01:20:53,640
the best in her book.

1633
01:20:54,683 --> 01:20:56,309
[gentle jazz music plays]

1634
01:20:56,393 --> 01:20:58,520
[Marty] It's mother doing the daddy dance.

1635
01:20:59,104 --> 01:20:59,980
[chuckles]

1636
01:21:01,773 --> 01:21:03,608
I can't do it like you.
What's the other one?

1637
01:21:03,692 --> 01:21:04,693
What's the other one? Oh.

1638
01:21:05,318 --> 01:21:06,152
[laughs]

1639
01:21:06,236 --> 01:21:09,489
[Marty] In 2007,
she thought she had a hernia.

1640
01:21:09,573 --> 01:21:10,907
She went to a doctor, and he said,

1641
01:21:10,991 --> 01:21:14,286
"I think it's a hernia,
but we should have it s… scanned."

1642
01:21:14,369 --> 01:21:17,998
And it was scanned,
and it turned out to be an ovarian cyst.

1643
01:21:18,081 --> 01:21:21,585
Of course, then someone picked up a phone
and phoned the National Enquirer.

1644
01:21:21,668 --> 01:21:23,503
So it was all in the National Enquirer.

1645
01:21:23,587 --> 01:21:26,256
Bernie Brillstein phoned me up,
my manager, and said,

1646
01:21:26,339 --> 01:21:28,592
"Hey, kid, two things. Um…"

1647
01:21:29,092 --> 01:21:31,511
"Bad news is
it's on page three of the Enquirer."

1648
01:21:31,595 --> 01:21:33,138
"Good news. It's a very nice picture."

1649
01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:37,976
A couple of days later, we had a scan.
It was proved to be cancer.

1650
01:21:41,771 --> 01:21:43,148
[poignant music plays]

1651
01:21:43,231 --> 01:21:45,191
He was doing some work during that time.

1652
01:21:45,275 --> 01:21:48,153
And the family and Nancy
and everybody says,

1653
01:21:48,236 --> 01:21:51,364
"You're not gonna stop doing your work
because this thing is going to…

1654
01:21:51,448 --> 01:21:54,993
this malady is going to, uh,
you know, do its damage."

1655
01:21:55,744 --> 01:21:58,663
[Marty] At one point, I did have to go
and shoot Damages.

1656
01:21:58,747 --> 01:22:01,041
My clients aren't guilty of anything.

1657
01:22:01,124 --> 01:22:04,794
No one knew what was going on.
And Glenn would say, "Marty's here!"

1658
01:22:04,878 --> 01:22:08,381
I'd go, "Yeah, just give me a second
in the dressing room."

1659
01:22:08,465 --> 01:22:10,008
[breathes deeply]

1660
01:22:12,844 --> 01:22:14,554
[Catherine] They came over for dinner
at our cottage.

1661
01:22:15,138 --> 01:22:17,599
And Nancy said, "Come into the bedroom.
I wanna talk to you."

1662
01:22:17,682 --> 01:22:20,727
So of course, I went… [laughs]
…into my bedroom with Nancy

1663
01:22:20,810 --> 01:22:21,978
'cause she told me to.

1664
01:22:22,062 --> 01:22:26,191
And she said, "Well, I have cancer."
And told me what was going on.

1665
01:22:26,733 --> 01:22:29,819
"Okay." "And it's gonna be fine."
And just told me the facts.

1666
01:22:29,903 --> 01:22:32,447
"Okay, I just wanted you to know." "Okay."

1667
01:22:32,530 --> 01:22:34,074
Then we go back to dinner.

1668
01:22:35,283 --> 01:22:38,536
You're kind of hoping
everything works out.

1669
01:22:38,620 --> 01:22:42,582
At the time,
we didn't know in the very beginning.

1670
01:22:43,083 --> 01:22:44,542
At a certain point,

1671
01:22:44,626 --> 01:22:47,170
we kind of knew
that it wasn't gonna work out.

1672
01:22:50,632 --> 01:22:52,550
[Andrea] To Nancy's credit,

1673
01:22:52,634 --> 01:22:56,429
just because she was the way she was,

1674
01:22:56,513 --> 01:22:58,807
fearless, deter…

1675
01:22:58,890 --> 01:23:01,059
You know her. Determined.

1676
01:23:02,644 --> 01:23:03,520
Um…

1677
01:23:04,062 --> 01:23:05,271
A fighter.

1678
01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:08,650
The chick could do anything, okay?
She could do anything.

1679
01:23:08,733 --> 01:23:10,193
Her attitude was,

1680
01:23:10,276 --> 01:23:14,364
"Cancer, whatever.
This is how I'm gonna live my life."

1681
01:23:15,740 --> 01:23:18,451
[Andrea] Through a lot of pain,
she was playing tennis.

1682
01:23:18,535 --> 01:23:20,787
I was up at Snug Harbour when it was…

1683
01:23:21,705 --> 01:23:25,166
It was the summer where she died
in September. [clears throat]

1684
01:23:25,667 --> 01:23:27,460
-Hi, darling.
-[Marty] Hey, baby.

1685
01:23:27,544 --> 01:23:29,337
-We're having fun.
-[Marty] Beautiful.

1686
01:23:29,421 --> 01:23:31,631
[Deb] We just tried to work off her vibe.

1687
01:23:31,715 --> 01:23:34,134
She set the tone, and we followed.

1688
01:23:34,926 --> 01:23:37,220
[Marty] She tended
to be positive in general.

1689
01:23:37,721 --> 01:23:40,974
So when she got sick,
her approach was, "I can fight it."

1690
01:23:41,057 --> 01:23:44,769
And if they'd give her…
She'd be on a new cocktail of chemo.

1691
01:23:44,853 --> 01:23:46,896
She'd say to everyone, "I'm cured."

1692
01:23:46,980 --> 01:23:49,566
She went to the Internet once,
read about it, and said,

1693
01:23:49,649 --> 01:23:51,151
"I'm not gonna do that anymore."

1694
01:23:51,234 --> 01:23:52,652
[Andrea] She didn't wanna know.

1695
01:23:52,736 --> 01:23:56,948
She just wanted to just keep going
until she couldn't.

1696
01:23:57,532 --> 01:24:00,910
And he was a perfect partner
because he let her.

1697
01:24:00,994 --> 01:24:03,288
It was extraordinary to watch.

1698
01:24:03,788 --> 01:24:06,624
["Unforgettable" by Nat King Cole
and Natalie Cole plays]

1699
01:24:07,876 --> 01:24:09,044
[Marty] Sing it, Nan.

1700
01:24:09,127 --> 01:24:11,880
♪ Ooh, unforgettable… ♪

1701
01:24:11,963 --> 01:24:14,299
♪ Unforgettable ♪

1702
01:24:14,382 --> 01:24:17,135
[recording] ♪ In every way… ♪

1703
01:24:17,218 --> 01:24:20,680
♪ In every way ♪

1704
01:24:21,181 --> 01:24:23,391
[recording] ♪ And forever more… ♪

1705
01:24:23,475 --> 01:24:26,144
♪ And forever more ♪

1706
01:24:26,227 --> 01:24:28,104
[recording] ♪ That's how you'll stay… ♪

1707
01:24:28,188 --> 01:24:32,233
♪ That's how you'll stay ♪

1708
01:24:32,317 --> 01:24:38,907
[recording] ♪ That's why, darling
It's incredible ♪

1709
01:24:39,407 --> 01:24:44,037
♪ That someone so unforgettable ♪

1710
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:50,460
♪ Thinks that I am unforgettable ♪

1711
01:24:50,543 --> 01:24:55,548
♪ Too ♪

1712
01:25:01,012 --> 01:25:02,430
[music fades]

1713
01:25:05,225 --> 01:25:10,021
[woman] Steve Martin wrote a melody
for Nancy Short, who died a year ago.

1714
01:25:10,105 --> 01:25:13,650
I, uh, dedicated it
to my friend Marty Short's…

1715
01:25:16,277 --> 01:25:17,737
[woman] I'm sorry. It's okay.

1716
01:25:17,821 --> 01:25:18,655
Sorry.

1717
01:25:19,155 --> 01:25:20,448
Come on, I'll play it for you.

1718
01:25:21,074 --> 01:25:23,159
[plays "The Great Remember"]

1719
01:25:31,292 --> 01:25:37,298
Like any family, it's just a simple fact
that loss is something to negotiate.

1720
01:25:38,216 --> 01:25:40,969
It's going to happen to all of us,
and we must celebrate

1721
01:25:41,052 --> 01:25:43,888
and continue that voice
and never let it go.

1722
01:25:45,849 --> 01:25:49,978
I couldn't imagine Marty without Nancy.

1723
01:25:50,061 --> 01:25:51,229
Yeah.

1724
01:25:51,312 --> 01:25:53,690
How's he gonna be able
to go on without her?

1725
01:25:53,773 --> 01:25:55,775
How's he gonna be able
to be funny without her?

1726
01:25:58,736 --> 01:26:01,990
He first threw himself into
his children's lives. Into his family.

1727
01:26:02,073 --> 01:26:03,992
Then he threw himself into his work.

1728
01:26:06,828 --> 01:26:08,663
[Michael] I looked at Marty,
and I thought,

1729
01:26:08,746 --> 01:26:11,666
"He's going through it again.
Jesus Christ."

1730
01:26:12,417 --> 01:26:13,585
"Give me a break."

1731
01:26:14,836 --> 01:26:17,297
[Deb] We'll have full-on conversations
about Nancy now.

1732
01:26:17,380 --> 01:26:19,799
I mean, we… we don't skirt around her.

1733
01:26:19,883 --> 01:26:22,927
Sometimes when he's on the phone
and he'll be talking about it,

1734
01:26:23,011 --> 01:26:26,890
and I won't agree with him, and I'll say,
"Put Nancy on the phone," you know.

1735
01:26:27,390 --> 01:26:30,059
"'Cause you know what?
She'd have a different opinion here."

1736
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,355
[Catherine] He handled it with
a sense of humor, looked for the laughs.

1737
01:26:34,981 --> 01:26:37,692
I hope you're telling everyone
how important laughter is.

1738
01:26:37,775 --> 01:26:39,527
[poignant music plays]

1739
01:26:39,611 --> 01:26:43,406
I was trying to help him.
You try to make sure they're okay.

1740
01:26:44,032 --> 01:26:45,158
Hi, video.

1741
01:26:45,241 --> 01:26:47,577
Until they can stand
on their own two feet.

1742
01:26:48,536 --> 01:26:49,829
[Walter] I remember he was working a lot.

1743
01:26:49,913 --> 01:26:51,956
♪ Holiday time ♪

1744
01:26:52,457 --> 01:26:54,042
What are you doing?

1745
01:26:54,542 --> 01:26:57,212
[Walter] He did share
that when he was on the road,

1746
01:26:57,295 --> 01:27:00,006
that's when he was without Nancy normally.

1747
01:27:00,506 --> 01:27:03,509
So the loss actually was
a little less tangible

1748
01:27:03,593 --> 01:27:04,886
when he was out there working,

1749
01:27:04,969 --> 01:27:07,222
as opposed to being home
and being home alone.

1750
01:27:07,305 --> 01:27:09,974
I don't know what he would do
if he wasn't on the move.

1751
01:27:10,058 --> 01:27:15,313
I think he would think it'd be
a disservice to Nancy if he went down.

1752
01:27:15,396 --> 01:27:17,398
I was gonna have this meeting with him.

1753
01:27:17,482 --> 01:27:20,276
And I wasn't really aware
that he had lost his wife

1754
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,779
within the past few years at that time.

1755
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,283
You're… you're looking
at someone's true half gone.

1756
01:27:27,367 --> 01:27:31,371
That's how Lorne Michaels explained to me
what kind of a loss that was.

1757
01:27:31,454 --> 01:27:34,999
I was trying to do
one of those stupid live audience sitcoms,

1758
01:27:35,083 --> 01:27:36,834
but in a weird way.

1759
01:27:36,918 --> 01:27:39,462
And border on corny,

1760
01:27:39,545 --> 01:27:40,797
but not be.

1761
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:41,798
[laughter]

1762
01:27:41,881 --> 01:27:45,802
My decorator was going for feng shui,
but I just wanted to Wang Chung.

1763
01:27:45,885 --> 01:27:47,387
[audience laughs]

1764
01:27:47,470 --> 01:27:49,472
[laughs awkwardly]

1765
01:27:50,139 --> 01:27:53,017
She lives! She's alive!

1766
01:27:53,101 --> 01:27:54,602
Sometimes I'd write for him.

1767
01:27:54,686 --> 01:27:56,771
He'd say to me, "Well, this is stupid."

1768
01:27:56,854 --> 01:28:00,483
I'd be like, "Isn't the smartest thing
to do something really stupid?"

1769
01:28:00,566 --> 01:28:04,737
He'd go, "Well, why don't I just put on
a big red wig and run in circles?"

1770
01:28:04,821 --> 01:28:07,615
And some part of me was like,
"Oh, would you do that?"

1771
01:28:08,283 --> 01:28:10,994
Something about
what I was trying to do didn't translate.

1772
01:28:11,077 --> 01:28:16,165
I think I ran into him in the hall
when reviews and numbers were not good.

1773
01:28:16,249 --> 01:28:20,712
And he just grabbed me and said,
"John, this is what it is."

1774
01:28:20,795 --> 01:28:23,673
He goes, "98% of it is failure."

1775
01:28:24,257 --> 01:28:27,885
And he meant it sincerely.
Like, he goes, "This is what the job is."

1776
01:28:28,761 --> 01:28:31,306
Nothing works, then something works.

1777
01:28:31,889 --> 01:28:37,895
Marty is busier and in more demand now
than he ever has been.

1778
01:28:37,979 --> 01:28:39,272
[applause]

1779
01:28:39,856 --> 01:28:44,527
He's responsible for this thing that
has made streaming television history.

1780
01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:48,406
He goes off and has these shows
that he puts on with Steve.

1781
01:28:48,489 --> 01:28:49,449
[laughter]

1782
01:28:49,532 --> 01:28:53,411
That is not coming out of a desire
to stay on top,

1783
01:28:53,911 --> 01:28:57,290
or to fill his coffers,
or to stay relevant.

1784
01:28:57,373 --> 01:28:58,833
It's got none of that.

1785
01:28:58,916 --> 01:29:00,084
Marty is doing it

1786
01:29:00,168 --> 01:29:03,212
because the opportunity is there
to have a blast.

1787
01:29:03,296 --> 01:29:05,298
[cheering and applause]

1788
01:29:08,009 --> 01:29:09,886
Stop loving me!

1789
01:29:10,803 --> 01:29:13,931
Thank you. I'm your guest host
for the week, Martin Short.

1790
01:29:14,015 --> 01:29:14,932
[cheering]

1791
01:29:15,016 --> 01:29:16,893
Oh, hi there.

1792
01:29:17,894 --> 01:29:20,313
I'm actor, comedian, philanthropist,

1793
01:29:20,396 --> 01:29:23,566
and award-winning
adult film star Martin Short.

1794
01:29:24,067 --> 01:29:27,820
People always ask me, "Marty,
how do you have so much energy?"

1795
01:29:27,904 --> 01:29:31,532
Usually I tell those people,
"Get the f*** away from me! Thanks."

1796
01:29:34,118 --> 01:29:35,912
[phone rings]

1797
01:29:36,412 --> 01:29:38,081
I'm putting you on speaker.

1798
01:29:38,831 --> 01:29:41,501
-[Steve] Yeah?
-Hey, it's Steve Martin, everyone.

1799
01:29:41,584 --> 01:29:42,752
[Steve] Hi, Marty.

1800
01:29:42,835 --> 01:29:43,795
Hi, Steve.

1801
01:29:43,878 --> 01:29:47,173
[Steve] I'm calling to say
I don't like you

1802
01:29:47,256 --> 01:29:49,717
or the people you hang around with.

1803
01:29:49,801 --> 01:29:51,719
[Marty laughs]

1804
01:29:53,429 --> 01:29:56,057
And you felt you had to phone
and tell me that?

1805
01:29:56,140 --> 01:29:58,726
[Steve] No, and I'm telling you,
I hope you're not recording this.

1806
01:29:58,810 --> 01:30:00,686
No, no, we're not. Absolutely not.

1807
01:30:00,770 --> 01:30:02,522
Okay, enough. We're bombing, by the way.

1808
01:30:03,022 --> 01:30:04,524
-[Steve] Yeah, we're bombing.
-I know.

1809
01:30:05,733 --> 01:30:08,111
[Steve] We all know,
whether you're in show business or not,

1810
01:30:08,194 --> 01:30:10,363
that you can have a friend
you don't see for a year,

1811
01:30:10,446 --> 01:30:13,157
and you get back together
and it's just like butter.

1812
01:30:13,241 --> 01:30:14,325
[Marty] Congratulations.

1813
01:30:14,909 --> 01:30:16,536
Remember what we did in that movie?

1814
01:30:17,912 --> 01:30:19,372
Gee, do you think it could work?

1815
01:30:19,455 --> 01:30:20,790
It's got to work.

1816
01:30:20,873 --> 01:30:23,751
[Steve] We did this comedy festival
where we interview each other.

1817
01:30:23,835 --> 01:30:24,669
I have a question.

1818
01:30:24,752 --> 01:30:27,213
You do something I don't.
You do impressions and…

1819
01:30:27,713 --> 01:30:29,674
[laughter]

1820
01:30:32,969 --> 01:30:36,764
We thought, "Why don't we do it again?"
And I knew Marty had a solo show.

1821
01:30:37,765 --> 01:30:42,311
And I had a… a show with a band.
A comedy music show.

1822
01:30:42,395 --> 01:30:45,106
And I thought, "Maybe we'll try it.
We'll blend it."

1823
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:48,651
Steve and I called this show,
If We'd Saved, We Wouldn't Be Here.

1824
01:30:48,734 --> 01:30:49,569
[laughter]

1825
01:30:49,652 --> 01:30:52,697
You know what I love
about touring around with Marty Short?

1826
01:30:52,780 --> 01:30:54,115
No paparazzi.

1827
01:30:54,198 --> 01:30:56,492
[laughter]

1828
01:30:56,576 --> 01:31:00,997
Is there any trepidation at all
when you come out and start the show?

1829
01:31:01,581 --> 01:31:02,665
-None.
-None.

1830
01:31:02,748 --> 01:31:03,666
[all laugh]

1831
01:31:03,749 --> 01:31:05,376
Isn't that a boring answer?

1832
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:09,297
I'm a little more, uh, nervous
than Marty is. Marty is extremely relaxed.

1833
01:31:09,380 --> 01:31:12,925
-And the reason he is more nervous--
-I care.

1834
01:31:13,009 --> 01:31:14,760
-I'm relaxed… Same joke.
-Yeah.

1835
01:31:14,844 --> 01:31:18,306
Which has kept me out of the big money
because Steve actually cares.

1836
01:31:18,389 --> 01:31:20,892
When I think of Steve, and it's not often,

1837
01:31:20,975 --> 01:31:22,602
but when I do,

1838
01:31:22,685 --> 01:31:25,730
the one thing that strikes me more
than anything else about you

1839
01:31:25,813 --> 01:31:29,484
is how unbelievably pale
you are in person.

1840
01:31:29,567 --> 01:31:30,776
[laughter]

1841
01:31:30,860 --> 01:31:32,570
Like I'm being haunted, you know?

1842
01:31:32,653 --> 01:31:36,032
You look like Anderson Cooper
froze to death on New Year's Eve.

1843
01:31:36,532 --> 01:31:37,950
[applause]

1844
01:31:38,034 --> 01:31:41,162
[Steve] You know that sort of
insult premise that we have?

1845
01:31:41,245 --> 01:31:43,789
He was the first one to do that.

1846
01:31:44,415 --> 01:31:48,503
And I thought, "Oh, that's kind of fun."

1847
01:31:49,587 --> 01:31:52,965
And so I'd start to learn to do it back,
and he'd do it.

1848
01:31:53,049 --> 01:31:57,678
And… and that became a way to converse.

1849
01:31:57,762 --> 01:32:00,556
And then I noticed, when we started doing
Only Murders in the Building,

1850
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,809
and we're working with Selena,
who's a person we didn't know…

1851
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:07,271
Marty and I have
this little rapport thing going on

1852
01:32:07,355 --> 01:32:10,858
to sort of kill time between setups.

1853
01:32:11,359 --> 01:32:15,238
And a couple of years go by, and then I
notice Selena starts doing it. [chuckles]

1854
01:32:17,156 --> 01:32:19,825
-Oh, how did you get here?
-It was open.

1855
01:32:19,909 --> 01:32:21,494
I don't lock my door. Never have.

1856
01:32:21,577 --> 01:32:23,120
-That's insane.
-It's neighborly.

1857
01:32:23,204 --> 01:32:25,289
A murderer probably lives in the building.

1858
01:32:25,373 --> 01:32:29,252
But I guess old white guys are only afraid
of colon cancer and societal change.

1859
01:32:29,835 --> 01:32:30,670
Sad.

1860
01:32:31,170 --> 01:32:34,090
Marty says, "I can't believe
that we get to do this."

1861
01:32:34,173 --> 01:32:36,551
"I get to go hang out with funny people

1862
01:32:36,634 --> 01:32:39,595
and laugh all through all rehearsals."

1863
01:32:40,096 --> 01:32:45,101
[Marty] Steve feels that this is a moment.

1864
01:32:45,184 --> 01:32:46,602
So much for the moment.

1865
01:32:46,686 --> 01:32:48,145
[chuckling]

1866
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:49,981
[man] Come around to yourself now, Marty.

1867
01:32:51,232 --> 01:32:53,359
-I was covering the camera.
-[Steve] Camera was covered.

1868
01:32:53,442 --> 01:32:56,320
Marty and I like honing in on a… a joke

1869
01:32:56,404 --> 01:32:58,155
to get it more and more precise.

1870
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:01,284
So it's almost exact.

1871
01:33:01,367 --> 01:33:04,453
And then within that exactness,
there are variations.

1872
01:33:04,537 --> 01:33:05,371
Huh?

1873
01:33:05,871 --> 01:33:07,707
Oh my God, Mayberry.

1874
01:33:09,333 --> 01:33:11,294
-Well, that's not bad.
-[Steve] Yeah, yeah.

1875
01:33:11,794 --> 01:33:15,339
-You know, to say something--
-[Steve] R.F.D.

1876
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,258
[chuckles]

1877
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,345
Well, what about, "Oh My God, Opie?" Or…

1878
01:33:22,305 --> 01:33:23,598
Richie Cunningham?

1879
01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:25,975
That was his character in Happy Days.

1880
01:33:26,058 --> 01:33:29,020
But I think it… it steps
on your Ollie and Ron-Ron.

1881
01:33:29,103 --> 01:33:31,272
I'll just go, "Huh?"

1882
01:33:32,189 --> 01:33:33,858
[Marty] The A-lister. You did it.

1883
01:33:33,941 --> 01:33:35,192
-Yeah.
-[Marty] Okay.

1884
01:33:35,693 --> 01:33:37,903
-From the top.
-[Marty] Really?

1885
01:33:38,487 --> 01:33:40,239
I'm just thinking of this poor man.

1886
01:33:40,323 --> 01:33:41,198
I know.

1887
01:33:41,282 --> 01:33:43,284
[gentle music plays]

1888
01:33:44,410 --> 01:33:47,038
You know,
we're gonna be friends to the end.

1889
01:33:47,538 --> 01:33:50,166
Oh, God. I'm fine. You don't need to say
anything nice about me.

1890
01:33:50,249 --> 01:33:52,668
Especially not while making eye contact.

1891
01:33:52,752 --> 01:33:55,004
What if we went behind our menus?

1892
01:33:55,504 --> 01:33:58,174
That… that c… That could work, yeah.

1893
01:33:58,841 --> 01:34:00,509
[Marty] If it would make you feel better,

1894
01:34:00,593 --> 01:34:04,013
you can be my Life Alert contact
in case I fall.

1895
01:34:04,096 --> 01:34:06,265
And we can get colonoscopies together.

1896
01:34:07,725 --> 01:34:09,477
I can't ever imagine stopping.

1897
01:34:10,394 --> 01:34:13,439
And I'd like to think
I was the best version of myself

1898
01:34:13,522 --> 01:34:15,399
on the last day of my life.

1899
01:34:15,483 --> 01:34:16,692
Marty really showed me

1900
01:34:16,776 --> 01:34:19,612
that, um, it's very important
how you carry yourself

1901
01:34:19,695 --> 01:34:21,822
through all of these experiences.

1902
01:34:21,906 --> 01:34:23,741
Marty is good at life.

1903
01:34:23,824 --> 01:34:25,868
[exhilarating classical music plays]

1904
01:34:31,457 --> 01:34:32,291
[child squeals]

1905
01:34:32,375 --> 01:34:35,378
[child laughs]

1906
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,298
In this business, in the world of comedy,
there's nobody faster.

1907
01:34:39,799 --> 01:34:42,051
There's nobody smarter.
There's nobody funnier.

1908
01:34:42,551 --> 01:34:47,556
He's just been born
with an ability to connect.

1909
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:52,395
You just write the word J-O-Y, joy,
and it's a steady state.

1910
01:34:52,478 --> 01:34:56,691
You know, it's like… it's like a constant.
It's the… It's the speed of light.

1911
01:34:56,774 --> 01:34:59,944
Marty operates at the speed of joy.

1912
01:35:00,945 --> 01:35:02,279
[chuckles]

1913
01:35:03,781 --> 01:35:05,741
["Let 'Em In"
by Paul McCartney and Wings plays]

1914
01:35:05,825 --> 01:35:07,743
[kids speak indistinctly]

1915
01:35:07,827 --> 01:35:08,953
[laughter]

1916
01:35:09,036 --> 01:35:10,413
[Marty] Hi, baby.

1917
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:12,707
What a glorious day!

1918
01:35:13,999 --> 01:35:16,877
[Marty] Michael and Brian Short.

1919
01:35:19,046 --> 01:35:20,756
[Nancy] Watch out for the puddles.

1920
01:35:22,883 --> 01:35:25,136
[Marty] Yes, the Levys
are at Snug Harbour.

1921
01:35:26,178 --> 01:35:27,763
Wow. You know what?

1922
01:35:28,389 --> 01:35:29,849
I'm damn impressed.

1923
01:35:31,475 --> 01:35:33,728
♪ Someone's knocking at the door ♪

1924
01:35:34,228 --> 01:35:36,397
♪ Somebody's ringing the bell… ♪

1925
01:35:37,273 --> 01:35:38,858
-Hi, Marty.
-[Marty] Hi, Andrea.

1926
01:35:38,941 --> 01:35:43,362
♪ Open the door and let 'em in ♪

1927
01:35:43,946 --> 01:35:45,239
♪ Ooh, yeah… ♪

1928
01:35:46,198 --> 01:35:48,117
-Hi, honey.
-[Marty] Hi, honey.

1929
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,995
-You're taping me, but I'm taping you!
-[Marty] Oh!

1930
01:35:53,330 --> 01:35:55,750
So this is a press conference, kids.

1931
01:35:55,833 --> 01:35:57,752
And they all love me.

1932
01:35:57,835 --> 01:35:59,086
[laughter]

1933
01:35:59,170 --> 01:36:00,379
♪ Do me a favor ♪

1934
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,048
♪ Open the door and… ♪

1935
01:36:03,132 --> 01:36:05,384
What are you doing?
Are you doing that face?

1936
01:36:05,468 --> 01:36:08,721
♪ Yeah, let 'em in… ♪

1937
01:36:08,804 --> 01:36:11,348
-[Marty] Hello, Danny.
-Hello.

1938
01:36:11,432 --> 01:36:13,267
-[Marty] Well, hi, captain.
-[laughs]

1939
01:36:13,934 --> 01:36:17,897
[Marty] There's the fabulous
Catherine O'Hara. Go, baby.

1940
01:36:20,566 --> 01:36:21,859
Wow!

1941
01:36:24,570 --> 01:36:25,404
Hey, ese.

1942
01:36:25,488 --> 01:36:27,114
[Marty] Oh, Dave. Grow up.

1943
01:36:27,907 --> 01:36:30,785
-Andrea, look at the ass on mother.
-So fat.

1944
01:36:30,868 --> 01:36:32,578
How's your vacation, Stevie?

1945
01:36:32,661 --> 01:36:34,121
Innkeeper, more wine.

1946
01:36:34,205 --> 01:36:35,873
♪ Brother John ♪

1947
01:36:36,916 --> 01:36:38,626
♪ Martin Luther ♪

1948
01:36:39,293 --> 01:36:41,212
♪ Phil and Don ♪

1949
01:36:42,338 --> 01:36:43,923
♪ Brother Michael ♪

1950
01:36:44,924 --> 01:36:46,759
♪ Auntie Gin… ♪

1951
01:36:48,135 --> 01:36:51,388
I don't think dogs like me, Marty. I don't
know why. I just don't think they like me.

1952
01:36:51,472 --> 01:36:53,390
-[Marty] Really?
-Yeah, I don't really think so.

1953
01:36:53,474 --> 01:36:55,309
[Marty] Well, maybe you… Let me see.

1954
01:36:57,895 --> 01:36:59,188
Go, baby, go!

1955
01:36:59,897 --> 01:37:01,857
♪ Somebody's ringing the bell… ♪

1956
01:37:02,566 --> 01:37:06,987
[Marty sings nonsense words]

1957
01:37:08,113 --> 01:37:09,573
♪ Do me a favor… ♪

1958
01:37:10,074 --> 01:37:11,784
Happy Thanksgiving.

1959
01:37:11,867 --> 01:37:12,785
[laughs]

1960
01:37:12,868 --> 01:37:13,702
[laughs]

1961
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:16,413
♪ Ooh, yeah, yeah… ♪

1962
01:37:16,997 --> 01:37:17,832
[Marty] Stop it.

1963
01:37:19,041 --> 01:37:21,460
♪ Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo ♪

1964
01:37:21,544 --> 01:37:24,129
[indistinct singing]

1965
01:37:24,213 --> 01:37:25,214
Camera on.

1966
01:37:26,632 --> 01:37:30,386
That's all the news.
It is the news. Talk to you later.

1967
01:37:31,136 --> 01:37:33,639
-And, uh… Uh…
-[laughter]

1968
01:37:33,722 --> 01:37:35,641
So until then.

1969
01:37:36,642 --> 01:37:39,144
-[Nancy] Are you happy now, Dad?
-Yes.

1970
01:37:39,228 --> 01:37:40,354
[music fades]

1971
01:37:43,482 --> 01:37:47,695
[Larry] Jiminy, you've interviewed
so many people. Like, everybody.

1972
01:37:47,778 --> 01:37:50,197
But you've never interviewed Martin Short.

1973
01:37:50,698 --> 01:37:52,825
No. I don't find him interesting.

1974
01:37:52,908 --> 01:37:56,453
I find people who push too hard

1975
01:37:56,537 --> 01:37:58,664
and are desperate for the approval

1976
01:37:58,747 --> 01:38:02,084
without really presenting
any reason for the approval,

1977
01:38:02,167 --> 01:38:03,836
I find it offensive.

1978
01:38:03,919 --> 01:38:06,422
[Larry] Did you hear they were making
a documentary about him?

1979
01:38:06,922 --> 01:38:09,425
Yeah, well, they're making
a documentary on everyone.

1980
01:38:09,508 --> 01:38:11,760
You know, they're making a… a documentary.

1981
01:38:11,844 --> 01:38:16,181
Literally every human being that existed.

1982
01:38:16,265 --> 01:38:19,643
This is what I think.
I think that Martin Short, he…

1983
01:38:19,727 --> 01:38:24,523
There's, like, basically, three voices,
two hairstyles, and four dance moves.

1984
01:38:24,607 --> 01:38:28,277
And you can't build an empire on that.
Although somehow, he has.

1985
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,946
But I don't buy it. I don't like it.

1986
01:38:52,551 --> 01:38:54,553
[gentle music plays]

1987
01:39:38,472 --> 01:39:39,431
[music fades]



