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      I have therefore chosen       
        this time and place         

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    to discuss a topic on which     
    ignorance too often abounds     

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           and the truth            
       too rarely perceived,        

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   and that is the most important   
       topic on earth, peace.       

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   What kind of a peace do I mean   

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          and what kind of          
        a peace do we seek?         

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          Not a Pax Americana        
         enforced on the world       

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      by American weapons of war.    

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       Not the peace of the grave    

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     or the security of the slave.   

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           I am talking about        
             genuine peace,          

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    the kind of peace that makes    
    life on earth worth living.     

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       The kind that enables men     
          and nations to grow        

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              and to hope            

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        and build a better life      
          for their children,        

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   not merely peace for Americans   
 but peace for all men and women. 

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   Not merely peace in our time,    
       but peace in all time.       

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      [tranquil music playing]      

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    [woman]   That straight, sleek    
       look that it should have,     

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       and very often you'll find    

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          a zipper hidden           
       in the, uh, arm and--        

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          Good afternoon,           
       ladies and gentlemen.        

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       You'll excuse the fact       
      that I'm out of breath,       

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 but about 10 or 15 minutes ago,   

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        a tragic thing, from        
   all indications at this point,   

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            has happened            
       in the city of Dallas.       

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      This is Walter Cronkite       
          in our newsroom.          

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    Here's a, uh, piece of copy     
     that was rushed to-- to me     

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          and was torn off          
       from the United Press.       

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         President Kennedy          
      has been shot in Dallas.      

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             Along with             
    Governor Connally of Texas.     

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         They've been taken         
    to Parkland Hospital there,     

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     where their condition is,      
          as yet, unknown.          

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            [reporter 1]            
      And just now we've received    
        reports here at Parkland     

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       that Governor Connally was    
     shot in the upper left chest,   

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             and the first           
          unconfirmed reports        

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           say the President         
          was hit in the head.       

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      That's an unconfirmed report   

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           that the President        
          was hit in the head.       

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            [reporter 2]            
          Police began chasing       

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           an unknown gunman         
      across the railroad tracks.    

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     Would you see if they need     
     some coffee or something?      

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            These people            
       are awfully shaken up.       

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   They were in the line of fire.   

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     [man]   The President's car      
            was some 50 feet         

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     when we heard the first shot.   

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        And then as the car         
    got directly in front of us,    

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             a gunshot from          
          the top of the hill        

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     hit the President's side--     
        side of the temple.         

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       [reporter over phone]        
     Where did the shots come from? 

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         [woman over phone]         
     The shots came from the hill.   

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       [reporter 3]   Excuse me       
          just a moment, John.       

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        Uh, there was just word      
           from the hospital         

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       that they have dispatched     
       a call for a neurosurgeon.    

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         All we can do now          
          is pray for him,          

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 and that's about all we can do.   

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   [reporter 4]   President's wife,   
     Jackie Kennedy, was not hurt.   

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     She walked into the hospital.   
       A priest has been ordered.    

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      Emergency supplies of blood    

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           also being rushed         
            to the hospital.         

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    [reporter 5]   Just a moment.     
     We have a bulletin coming in.   

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       We'll now put you directly    
       through Parkland Hospital     

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        and KBLX news director,      
              Bill Hamdon.           

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            [reporter 6]            
       Two priests, who were with    

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           President Kennedy,        
            say he is dead.          

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           [woman gasps]            

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 -Just two priests announced it?   
            -[man] Yes.             

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   But it's not the truth, is it?   

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         [Walter Cronkite]          
 The flash, apparently official,   

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         President Kennedy died      

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              at 1:00 p.m.           
         Central Standard Time,      

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        some 38 minutes ago.        

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       [boy]   I just can't see       
         why anybody would want      

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      to shoot Mr. Kennedy for all   
      the things he's done for us.   

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      He tried to keep us from      
 getting into war and everything. 

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 It's a simple matter of a bullet 
      right through the head.       

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   [officer]   All the information    
         that we have received       

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     now indicates that it did come 

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     from about the fifth or fourth 
        floor of that building.      

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       We're checking it out now.    

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           10-4 now, and 112.        

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      We found empty rifle hulls,    

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       and it looked like the man    
     had been there for some time.   

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            [reporter 7]            
        Police made a systematic     
        search     of the building.     

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         They found no weapon.       

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            [reporter 8]            
         We just got the word.       

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           Lyndon B. Johnson         
           has been sworn in         

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            as the President         
          of the United States       

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        just prior to a takeoff      
        to return to Washington.     

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   [reporter 9]   Behind the casket   
      is Mrs. Jacqueline Kennedy.    

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       They are helping her down.    

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          Now, new President,        
         Lyndon Baines Johnson.      

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      We have suffered a loss       
      that cannot be weighed.       

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           [reporter 10]            
      At Bethesda Naval Hospital,    

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            the autopsy team         
          has completed work.        

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       Now the body of the slain     
        President and his widow      

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        are at last brought home     
          to the White House.        

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   [reporter 11]   Who do you think   
     would do something like this?   

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    Probably some segregationist    
       crackpot or something.       

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              Just...               
    They had it all planned out.    

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 I really believe that his blood   
        will be on their hands.      

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           [reporter 12]            
          Here is the suspect.       
         Can we roll it please?      

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        [Lee Harvey Oswald]         
   People have given me a hearing   

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    without legal representation    
            or anything.            

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   -Did you shoot the President?    
      -I didn't shoot anybody.      

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           I emphatically           
        deny these charges.         

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       [reporter 13]   This is        
       24-year-old Lee H. Oswald.    

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       He answers the description    
             of a young man          

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             sighted at the          
       Book Depository Building.     

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    [reporter 14]   Police chased     
      Oswald into a movie theater.   

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     Police said he fired at them,   
     killing Patrolman J.D. Tippit. 

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 A rifle was found in a building   
            where he worked.         

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    [reporter 15]   Police refused    
        to say whether they have     

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            any fingerprints         
        from that weapon as yet.     

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        The man obviously was an     
     excellent shot or very lucky,   

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         in that witnesses          
    said three shots were fired,    

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        at least two of them        
         found their marks.         

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           [reporter 16]            
        At the Capitol Rotunda,      

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             there will be           
          three short speeches       

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      before the public is allowed   
       to start viewing the body.    

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   Chief, do you have any concern   
 for the safety of your prisoner? 

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             [officer]              
       No, but because necessary     

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              precautions            
       will be taken, of course.     

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       [reporter 17]   Is there       
     any doubt in your mind, Chief, 

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         that Oswald is the man      
       who killed the President?     

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   [officer]   I think this is the    
     man who killed the President.   

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         I'm just a patsy.          

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     [reporter 18]   So great is      
     the crush outside the Capitol, 

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        that people who have not     
      been in line can't possibly.   

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   We are now switching to Dallas   

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      where they are about to move   
        Lee Oswald and whether--     

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             [gunshot]              

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   [reporter 19]   He's been shot.    

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            [indistinct]            

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           [reporter 20]            
       There's a man with a gun.     

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             [Cronkite]             
           Lee Harvey Oswald,        

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     the man who Dallas police say   
       killed President Kennedy,     

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            himself is dead.         

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         The man Dallas police       
          seized at the scene,       

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       and are holding, has been     
        identified     as Jack Ruby.    

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   He is being held by the Dallas   
 police. Now, back to Washington. 

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           [reporter 21]            
         Fifty-three countries       

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     are represented in all today.   

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       There are a dozen members     
       of ruling royal families,     

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         30 foreign ministers.       

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           [reporter 22]            
       Things should be all right    
        in the few months ahead.     

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       [Dwight D. Eisenhower]       
           I'm sure the, uh,         

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     entire citizenry of the nation 

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       will stand faithfully        
       behind the government.       

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 This bizarre sequence of double   
 killings raise great questions.   

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      Who actually fired the shots   
          that killed Kennedy?       

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        Was there a conspiracy?      

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    The first wound described is    
 a wound in the back of the head   

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     and would seem to indicate     
        a shot from behind.         

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          But the doctors           
        also said there was         

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       a wound in the throat        
           at the front,            

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 which seemed to indicate a shot   
     from the other direction.      

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   [Cronkite]   The new President,    
            Lyndon Johnson,          

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         appointed a commission      
      of seven prominent Americans   

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             to investigate          
           the whole affair.         

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       Earl Warren, Chief Justice    
         of the United States.       

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          Richard B. Russell,        
         senator from Georgia.       

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          John Sherman Cooper,       
         senator from Kentucky.      

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              Hale Boggs,            
   representative     from Louisiana. 

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            Gerald R. Ford,          
     representative from Michigan.   

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            John J. McCloy,          
         presidential adviser.       

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            Allen W. Dulles,         
          ex-head of the CIA.        

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         Are you convinced          
       that he was shot from        
    the School Book Depository?     

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   Well, I think we better leave    
        all that, you know.         

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        The evidence report         
   will cover all-- all of that.    

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           [reporter 23]            
         The Warren Commission       
      makes these major findings.    

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           Lee Harvey Oswald         
 assassinated President Kennedy.   

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            He did it alone.         

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           He was not a part         
           of any conspiracy,        

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      either domestic or foreign.    

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           [reporter 24]            
           Some other details        

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          will be of interest        
          mainly to historians       

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         and others having          
       some special interest.       

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 [reporter 25]   But there was one   
       further piece of evidence     

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      that the public cannot see.    

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        Abraham Zapruder's film      
      of the actual assassination.   

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          This murder now           
       is the most thoroughly       

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          documented crime          
        in American history.        

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           And for those            
       who care to pursue it        

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      down to the last detail,      
          it's all there.           

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           [Oliver Stone]           
         This is Dealey Plaza.       

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              To this day,           
       it remains a crime scene.     

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              In the years           
        since the Warren Report,     

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            many significant         
      re-investigations were made    

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            into the murder          
         of President Kennedy.       

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           Each one revealed         
         new facts and evidence      

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      that shed more light on what   
     really happened here that day. 

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           Starting in 1975,         
      after the Watergate scandal,   

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          Senator Frank Church       
       conducted     an investigation   

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            into the abuses          
     and crimes of the FBI and CIA. 

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      During that time, the public   
        learned of the CIA plots     

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     to assassinate foreign leaders 

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          like Patrice Lumumba       
        of the Republic of Congo     

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       and Fidel Castro of Cuba.     

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           Plots orchestrated        
      under     Director Allen Dulles. 

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        But the Church committee     
           didn't stop there.        

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       Senators Richard Schweiker    
             and Gary Hart           

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        were tasked to reexamine     
      the roles of the CIA and FBI   

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       as the chief investigators    
       for the Warren Commission,    

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           and look for signs        
       of conflicts or cover-ups.    

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      J. Edgar Hoover writes,       

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           "Yes, we did have         
      a relationship with Mr. Ruby   

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 and he acted as our informant."   

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   Now, who said that at the time   
 of the Warren Commission report? 

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       Did anybody ever imply       
       that-- that Jack Ruby        

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      was a confidential informant   
              for the FBI?           

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       Nobody breathed that.        
        That was classified.        

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       [Stone]   Faith in what        
      the American public was told   

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        by the Warren Commission     
        was starting to unravel.     

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     The intelligence agencies      
      did all the wrong things      

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           if they really           
    were looking for conspiracy     

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           or to find out           
      who killed John Kennedy.      

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    [Stone]   The search for real     
        answers gained momentum.     

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             Then, 12 years          
        after the assassination,     

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         the most iconic piece       
         of evidence was leaked      

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              and finally            
          shown to the public.       

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 It's the film shot by the Dallas 

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        dress manufacturer,         
         Abraham Zapruder.          

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       And it's the execution       
       of President Kennedy,        

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       and, uh, Bob and Dick,       

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      would you please narrate      

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         what we're seeing          
       as we show this film?        

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    [Robert Groden]   Now, before     
        he goes behind the sign,     

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             the President           
        is waving to the crowd.      

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         When he comes out from      
      behind the sign, he is shot.   

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 Then Governor Connally is shot.   

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          [Geraldo Rivera]          
         He's already been hit.      

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              [Groden]              
         He's already been hit.      

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         [Rivera]   And now?          

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     [Groden]   At the bottom of      
       the screen, the head shot.    

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      [Rivera]   That's the shot      
        that blew off his head.      

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 That's the most upsetting thing   
          I've ever seen.           

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 We'll talk about it in a minute. 

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              [Stone]               
     Seeing the shock and brutality 

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      of the actual assassination    

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        caused a public outcry.      

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         The government formed       

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       the House Select Committee    
      on Assassinations, the HSCA.   

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           The committee            
        will come to order.         

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          [Stone]   The HSCA          
        re-interviewed witnesses     

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        and took new testimonies     

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              that exposed           
        massive inconsistencies      

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           with the original         
             Warren Report.          

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 Has any other scientist to date   

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   linked the so-called pristine    
      bullet to the injuries?       

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     Not that I'm aware of. No.     

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     The Pentagon has destroyed     
 its Kennedy assassination file,   

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         and we don't know          
         why that was done.         

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           [Stone]   But at           
     the end of that investigation, 

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             what the HSCA           
         learned was considered      

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 too damaging to be made public.   

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              And close to           
         a half-million records      

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             were to remain          
           sealed until 2029,        

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       a fact that we made clear     

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           at the conclusion         
         to our 1991 film,   JFK.      

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         The media controversy       
            that accompanied         

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        the film forced Congress     
         to do something about       

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              the secrecy            
         that still surrounded       
        these classified files.      

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           Hearings were held        
            on Capitol Hill.         

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       Most Americans did not       

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   believe or support the verdict   

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      of the Warren Commission      
             initially.             

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 And now more than three in four, 

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      according to all recent       
    samplings of public opinion,    

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       think some conspiracy        
           was involved.            

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              And in 1992,           
          the John F. Kennedy        

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         Records Collection Act      
              was passed.            

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    Clerk will report the title.    

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   Senate 3006, an act to provide   

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        for the expeditious         
       disclosure of records        

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   relevant to the assassination    
   of President John F. Kennedy.    

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              [Stone]               
       This act provided funding     

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      and formed the Assassination   
         Records Review Board,       

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               the ARRB.             

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        The public wasn't going      
      to have to wait until 2029.    

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            Declassification         
           was to begin now.         

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      The board was given a budget   

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              and timeline           
      of four years to declassify    

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            and make public          
           as many documents         

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        and records as possible.     

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        They managed to collect      
         over two million pages      

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        of declassified records      
             and artifacts.          

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       They are all housed at the    
     National Archives in Maryland, 

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            and since then,          
        the public has been free     

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            to view, study,          
            and investigate.         

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       There is now so much more     
             that we know,           

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     and with those facts in hand,   

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            we will go back          
           and piece together        

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     what really happened that day, 

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     and discover the reasons why.   

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              Let's begin.           

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             [reporter]             
         Something has happened      
           in the motorcade.         

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            Standby, please.         

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         [Whoopi Goldberg]          
              The JFK case           

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     was such a mass of confusion.   

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              For example,           
         the Warren Commission       

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              was limited            
          to only three shots,       

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          because three shells       
     were found on the sixth floor   

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     of the School Book Depository. 

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         [J. Edgar Hoover]          
             On that floor,          

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        we found the three     empty    
      shells that had been fired,    

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              but they had           
        characteristics on them      

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     so that our ballistics expert   

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         was able to prove that      
      they were fired by this gun.   

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          [Lyndon Johnson]          
        Any of them fired at me?     

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              [Hoover]              
       No, there was never any...    

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             [Johnson]              
      All three at the President?    

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              [Hoover]              
      All three at the President,    
           and we have them.         

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             [Goldberg]             
         The FBI concluded that      

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           all three bullets         
         struck inside the car.      

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        [Hoover]   He was hit         
      by the first and the third.    

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            The second shot          
           hit the governor.         

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             The third shot          
           tore a large part         

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      of the President's head off.   

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       The Warren Commission        
   put itself in a straitjacket.    

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   They could not possibly allow    
       more than three shots,       

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     because four shots or more     

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         would have clearly         
       indicated conspiracy.        

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   And they were not going there.   

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       [James Tague speaking]       

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         scratched my face          

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00:15:54,745 --> 00:15:56,914
             [Goldberg]             
      Records show the first shot    

330
00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:59,249
               had missed            
         its target completely,      

331
00:15:59,291 --> 00:16:02,461
           and the final shot        
        hit Kennedy in the head.     

332
00:16:02,503 --> 00:16:06,298
      So, how does one account for   
 one bullet hitting two victims,   

333
00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:08,717
       and doing all this damage?    

334
00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:11,595
           Arlen Specter was         
       a Yale Law School graduate    

335
00:16:11,637 --> 00:16:14,682
      working in the Philadelphia    
      district attorney's office,    

336
00:16:14,723 --> 00:16:18,018
       when he was asked to serve    
       on the Warren Commission.     

337
00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:22,189
      Aha! What if one bullet       
       made all seven wounds?       

338
00:16:22,231 --> 00:16:23,857
      Arlen Specter, he is the one   

339
00:16:23,899 --> 00:16:26,276
           that gave birth to        
       the single-bullet theory.     

340
00:16:26,318 --> 00:16:28,696
      What if one bullet went into   
             Kennedy's back          

341
00:16:28,737 --> 00:16:31,365
         and came out his neck,      

342
00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:34,535
     and then went into Connally's   
        back, piercing the lung,     

343
00:16:34,576 --> 00:16:37,121
         destroying four inches      
        of the right fifth rib,      

344
00:16:37,162 --> 00:16:39,164
              exiting from           
        the front of his chest,      

345
00:16:39,206 --> 00:16:40,749
               going into            
         the back of the wrist,      

346
00:16:40,791 --> 00:16:42,793
       shattering the distal end     
             of the radius.          

347
00:16:42,835 --> 00:16:44,378
 In a 6-foot-4 guy like Connally, 

348
00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:46,964
      that's a big heavy bone       
        comminuted fracture.        

349
00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:48,716
               Exits from            
        the front of the wrist,      

350
00:16:48,757 --> 00:16:50,926
       goes into his left thigh.     

351
00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:53,262
         Whatever you want,         
         whatever you need,         

352
00:16:53,303 --> 00:16:56,265
        this bullet happily         
      and readily obliges you.      

353
00:16:56,306 --> 00:16:58,392
    It is indeed a magic bullet.    

354
00:16:59,727 --> 00:17:02,646
    CE-399 was the magic bullet,    

355
00:17:02,688 --> 00:17:05,691
           and all government        
         investigations so far       

356
00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:08,277
        have treated that bullet     

357
00:17:08,318 --> 00:17:11,280
             as absolutely           
       foundational to this case.    

358
00:17:11,321 --> 00:17:12,990
           How important            
        is chain of custody         

359
00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:15,075
       in a legal proceeding?       

360
00:17:15,117 --> 00:17:16,994
          Chain of custody          
        basically refers to         

361
00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:18,537
     the integrity of evidence.     

362
00:17:18,579 --> 00:17:20,581
         If I, uh, pick up          
        a piece of evidence         

363
00:17:20,622 --> 00:17:22,916
         and I transfer it          
          to somebody else          

364
00:17:22,958 --> 00:17:24,710
     for holding or processing,     

365
00:17:24,752 --> 00:17:27,212
       my name is the first name     
             on this list.           

366
00:17:27,254 --> 00:17:28,756
           The second person         
            who touches this         

367
00:17:28,797 --> 00:17:30,674
          and takes possession       
             of it is next.          

368
00:17:30,716 --> 00:17:33,427
     And if you don't do that,      
      there's no way to prove       

369
00:17:33,469 --> 00:17:35,387
         that the evidence          
      you collected on day one      

370
00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:38,265
     is the same one you get on     
    day 25 when you go to court.    

371
00:17:38,307 --> 00:17:40,017
      Can you walk us through       

372
00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:42,519
         the magic bullet's         
          chain of custody          

373
00:17:42,561 --> 00:17:47,733
   from the Parkland employees to   
   the Secret Service to the FBI?   

374
00:17:47,775 --> 00:17:50,986
     Well, the magic bullet was     
 supposedly found on a stretcher   

375
00:17:51,028 --> 00:17:52,446
         at Parkland Hospital,       

376
00:17:52,488 --> 00:17:54,490
     and went through several hands 

377
00:17:54,531 --> 00:17:57,743
           before it got            
       to the Secret Service.       

378
00:17:57,785 --> 00:18:00,579
   Richard Johnsen was the first    
        Secret Service agent        

379
00:18:00,621 --> 00:18:04,416
 to handle it, and he carried it   
      back to Washington, D.C.      

380
00:18:04,458 --> 00:18:06,877
            When he got back         
          to Washington, D.C.,       

381
00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:09,171
     he gave it to the chief of     
        the Secret Service,         

382
00:18:09,213 --> 00:18:11,173
       who was James Rowley.        

383
00:18:12,716 --> 00:18:15,260
      And at the White House,       
            James Rowley            

384
00:18:15,302 --> 00:18:18,430
     gave it to Elmer Lee Todd,     

385
00:18:18,472 --> 00:18:20,390
       and Todd then took it        
           to the FBI lab           

386
00:18:20,432 --> 00:18:23,477
   and gave it to Robert Frazier.   

387
00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:27,481
 We have interesting information   
         produced by John Hunt,      

388
00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:29,900
         a private citizen          
      who went to the archives      

389
00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:31,777
     on four or five occasions      

390
00:18:31,819 --> 00:18:35,489
      to track down the story       
      about the magic bullet,       

391
00:18:35,531 --> 00:18:37,950
         and what he found          
       was truly astounding.        

392
00:18:37,991 --> 00:18:40,327
     He practically moved into      

393
00:18:40,369 --> 00:18:42,913
       the National Archives        
        in Washington, D.C.         

394
00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:45,040
            They allowed him         
            to set up a desk         

395
00:18:45,082 --> 00:18:48,252
            with a computer          
          and his own scanner.       

396
00:18:48,293 --> 00:18:51,630
          And he also, uh,          
      did something different.      

397
00:18:51,672 --> 00:18:55,050
     He didn't interview policemen   
            and FBI people,          

398
00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:58,053
           and he wasn't            
      swayed by their excuses.      

399
00:18:58,095 --> 00:18:59,847
        He went straight to,        

400
00:18:59,888 --> 00:19:03,642
       "This is what you told       
     and you signed your name."     

401
00:19:03,684 --> 00:19:05,477
             [Goldberg]             
          Working with the FBI       

402
00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:07,271
         and Warren     Commission      
               documents,            

403
00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:10,399
            John Hunt asked          
        the most basic question.     

404
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,819
        "Was CE-399 in evidence      

405
00:19:13,861 --> 00:19:17,072
     the same bullet that was found 
           on the stretcher?"        

406
00:19:18,115 --> 00:19:20,200
         At 7:30 at night,          

407
00:19:20,242 --> 00:19:22,035
          this is the day           
       of the assassination,        

408
00:19:22,077 --> 00:19:24,496
        November 22nd, 1963,        

409
00:19:24,538 --> 00:19:27,457
 a bullet appears in the record,   

410
00:19:27,499 --> 00:19:31,461
        and it's signed for         
         by Robert Frazier,         

411
00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:34,423
    who is the main investigator    
          at the FBI lab.           

412
00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,551
 And it's not just one document.   

413
00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:39,970
    There are multiple documents    
           that indicate            

414
00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:45,684
      that Frazier signed for       
    a bullet at 7:30 that night.    

415
00:19:45,726 --> 00:19:48,020
         Now, here's where          
      things get interesting.       

416
00:19:48,061 --> 00:19:51,940
        Elmer Lee Todd received      
     the bullet at the White House   

417
00:19:51,982 --> 00:19:56,820
      from chief of the Secret      
       Service, James Rowley.       

418
00:19:56,862 --> 00:20:01,116
        And Todd documents,         
      very clearly in writing,      

419
00:20:01,158 --> 00:20:05,787
        that he got this bullet      
              at 8:50 p.m.           

420
00:20:05,829 --> 00:20:06,997
       How is that possible?        

421
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:09,458
       How can Robert Frazier       
         receive the bullet         

422
00:20:09,499 --> 00:20:13,462
           in the lab at 7:30        
          from Elmer Lee Todd,       

423
00:20:13,503 --> 00:20:16,715
        when Todd didn't get        
       the bullet until 8:50?       

424
00:20:16,757 --> 00:20:20,552
 You would think that they would   
   have handled it, uh, you know,   

425
00:20:20,594 --> 00:20:22,930
    like it would have been gold    
         going to the bank.         

426
00:20:22,971 --> 00:20:24,640
       There it is in the record,    

427
00:20:24,681 --> 00:20:28,143
         someone is lying about      
       when they got the bullet.     

428
00:20:28,185 --> 00:20:29,186
           [David Mantik]           
         It gets worse, though.      

429
00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:30,938
      Todd initialed that bullet,    

430
00:20:30,979 --> 00:20:35,234
    the one that he got at 8:50,    

431
00:20:35,275 --> 00:20:37,486
         and everyone else          
       who touched the bullet       

432
00:20:37,527 --> 00:20:39,529
    after that initialed it too,    

433
00:20:39,571 --> 00:20:40,948
       including Robert Frazier.     

434
00:20:40,989 --> 00:20:43,575
         I went to the archives      
        to look at this bullet.      

435
00:20:43,617 --> 00:20:45,911
         And specifically,          
      what we want to know is,      

436
00:20:45,953 --> 00:20:49,081
     do we see Todd's initials      
          on this bullet?           

437
00:20:49,122 --> 00:20:51,416
 He said he initialed the bullet. 

438
00:20:51,458 --> 00:20:53,627
            It is not there.         

439
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:56,797
        Todd's initials are not      
          on the magic bullet.       

440
00:20:58,632 --> 00:21:01,301
 I was very interested in finding 
     out what the Review Board      

441
00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:02,886
     would show us about this.      

442
00:21:02,928 --> 00:21:05,973
       So, we began scouring        
          their evidence,           

443
00:21:06,014 --> 00:21:08,141
          and we found out          
    something very interesting.     

444
00:21:08,183 --> 00:21:10,060
            We found out            
       that the Warren Report       

445
00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:11,812
       had from an FBI report       

446
00:21:11,853 --> 00:21:13,689
        saying that the guys        
       that found the bullet        

447
00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:16,024
       later identified that        
     as the bullet they'd seen.     

448
00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:17,776
          The internal record        
        didn't show that at all.     

449
00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:19,653
          The internal records       
            said this bullet         

450
00:21:19,695 --> 00:21:21,488
            didn't look like         
          that bullet at all.        

451
00:21:21,530 --> 00:21:23,949
 But the FBI had reported to the   
     Warren Commission that it did. 

452
00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:24,866
              They'd lied.           

453
00:21:24,908 --> 00:21:26,660
     We then talk to the FBI agent   

454
00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:28,787
     that was supposed to have      
    carried that bullet around.     

455
00:21:28,829 --> 00:21:30,497
      His name was Bardwell Odum.    

456
00:21:30,539 --> 00:21:32,499
          I got Bardwell Odum        
             on the phone.           

457
00:21:32,541 --> 00:21:35,544
     I sent him the documents that   
      said that he had done this.    

458
00:21:35,585 --> 00:21:37,337
                He said,             
       "I never had that bullet.     

459
00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:39,006
       I never showed any bullet     
               to anyone.            

460
00:21:39,047 --> 00:21:40,966
      "If I'd had the bullet,       
         there'd be a 302.          

461
00:21:41,008 --> 00:21:42,884
   "I would have filed a report,    
     particularly in that area.     

462
00:21:42,926 --> 00:21:45,470
     Everybody was very uptight     
 about getting everything right." 

463
00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:47,597
 So, we scoured for 302 reports.   

464
00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:49,516
      His name appears nowhere      
           in the record.           

465
00:21:49,558 --> 00:21:51,476
       This is just something       
       that the FBI invented.       

466
00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:54,354
          It's conceivable          
    that some mysterious bullet     

467
00:21:54,396 --> 00:21:55,897
 showed up from who knows where.   

468
00:21:57,024 --> 00:21:58,650
      Todd did not initial it,      

469
00:21:58,692 --> 00:22:02,779
         and it ended up in         
 the FBI lab as the magic bullet. 

470
00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:05,949
        One can only surmise        
    that, somewhere in the FBI,     

471
00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:08,702
 they realized they had to close   
    the loop on Oswald's guilt.     

472
00:22:08,744 --> 00:22:10,495
          And so they just          
          switched it out.          

473
00:22:10,537 --> 00:22:13,540
              Because none           
          of the four people,        

474
00:22:13,582 --> 00:22:15,375
      either the guys at Parkland,   

475
00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:16,543
               or the two            
         Secret Service agents,      

476
00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:18,170
       could identify the bullet.    

477
00:22:18,211 --> 00:22:20,047
 The guy who is supposed to have   
        gotten confirmation that     

478
00:22:20,088 --> 00:22:23,342
      they did identify the bullet   
         said he never did it.       

479
00:22:23,383 --> 00:22:24,843
   And the record supports that.    

480
00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:27,054
           So, there's--            
     there's good reason to be      

481
00:22:27,095 --> 00:22:29,765
          very suspicious           
      about the magic bullet.       

482
00:22:29,806 --> 00:22:35,187
    The chain of custody doesn't    
     start from the laboratory.     

483
00:22:35,228 --> 00:22:37,856
 It starts from the crime scene.   

484
00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:40,525
       Each piece of evidence       
      should be photographed,       

485
00:22:40,567 --> 00:22:44,738
            documented,             
      and preserved properly.       

486
00:22:45,739 --> 00:22:47,657
          From the scene,           

487
00:22:47,699 --> 00:22:51,328
       evidence is collected,       
      sent to the laboratory.       

488
00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:54,164
          We have to keep           
        the chain of custody        

489
00:22:54,206 --> 00:22:55,499
      when they enter the lab.      

490
00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:56,958
           Who examined?            

491
00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:00,712
   Who did the further analysis?    

492
00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:04,508
   And each step have to maintain   

493
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:07,052
   until you submit to the court.   

494
00:23:07,094 --> 00:23:08,678
        If this chain broke,        

495
00:23:09,971 --> 00:23:12,974
          then my evidence          
       becomes inadmissible.        

496
00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:16,395
             [Goldberg]             
           The other problem         

497
00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:18,271
         is the lack of damage       
             to the bullet           

498
00:23:18,313 --> 00:23:22,067
      after going through two men,   
          smashing two bones,        

499
00:23:22,109 --> 00:23:24,069
        and making seven wounds.     

500
00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:25,946
            Dr. Joseph Dolce         

501
00:23:25,987 --> 00:23:30,158
     was a much-honored battlefield 
      surgeon during World War II.   

502
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,452
               He worked             
       for the Warren Commission.    

503
00:23:32,494 --> 00:23:36,706
 And so they gave us the original 
   rifle, the Mannlicher-Carcano,   

504
00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:40,585
         plus 100 bullets,          
          6.5 millimeters.          

505
00:23:40,627 --> 00:23:44,005
            And we went             
 and we shot the cadaver wrists,   

506
00:23:44,047 --> 00:23:46,842
         and in every instance,      

507
00:23:46,883 --> 00:23:50,679
          the front or the tip       
       of the bullet was smashed.    

508
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,722
      Under no circumstances,       

509
00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:55,267
     do I feel that this bullet     
        could hit the wrist,        

510
00:23:55,308 --> 00:23:56,810
       and still not be deformed.    

511
00:23:56,852 --> 00:23:58,603
             [Goldberg]             
         Dolce came to believe       

512
00:23:58,645 --> 00:24:01,314
            that two bullets         
          had struck Connally.       

513
00:24:01,356 --> 00:24:03,650
          Since Arlen Specter        
              pre-screened           

514
00:24:03,692 --> 00:24:05,777
         the medical witnesses       
          for the commission,        

515
00:24:05,819 --> 00:24:08,613
         Dolce's name is not in      
           the Warren Report,        

516
00:24:08,655 --> 00:24:11,825
           and his testimony         
         is not in the volumes.      

517
00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,327
           And even Connally         
           refused to accept         

518
00:24:14,369 --> 00:24:15,996
       the single-bullet theory.     

519
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,293
     [reporter]   Former Senator      
          John Sherman Cooper        

520
00:24:21,334 --> 00:24:23,462
          is the first member        
        of the Warren Commission     

521
00:24:23,503 --> 00:24:25,338
     to agree to talk on television 

522
00:24:25,380 --> 00:24:28,800
           about what went on        
       inside the deliberations.     

523
00:24:28,842 --> 00:24:30,677
   Yes, there were disagreements.   

524
00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:33,388
    I think the most serious one    

525
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:36,892
          that comes to me          
         the most vividly,          

526
00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:40,687
     of course, is the question     
 of whether or not the first shot 

527
00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,606
     went through President Kennedy 

528
00:24:42,647 --> 00:24:45,025
            and then through         
           Governor Connally.        

529
00:24:45,066 --> 00:24:46,693
             [Goldberg]             
      Although it never specified    

530
00:24:46,735 --> 00:24:48,862
        the order of the shots,      

531
00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:51,698
           the Warren Report         
             had one bullet          

532
00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:54,451
         going through Kennedy       
         and Governor Connally,      

533
00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:56,161
        another missing the car,     

534
00:24:56,203 --> 00:24:59,831
         hitting a bystander on      
     Commerce Street, James Tague,   

535
00:24:59,873 --> 00:25:02,667
           and the final shot        
      hitting Kennedy in the head.   

536
00:25:03,585 --> 00:25:05,921
    I could not convince myself     

537
00:25:05,962 --> 00:25:09,216
        that the same bullet        
 struck both of them, although... 

538
00:25:09,257 --> 00:25:12,385
        [reporter] You mean         
     that you yourself didn't--     

539
00:25:12,427 --> 00:25:14,304
    Weren't convinced about the     
   single-bullet theory, which...   

540
00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:16,973
   No, I wasn't convinced by it.    
    Neither was Senator Russell.    

541
00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:19,059
         [Goldberg]   Senator         
       Richard Russell of Georgia    

542
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,895
              did not want           
      to serve on the commission.    

543
00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:24,022
           After he attended         
           the first meeting,        

544
00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:27,192
     he quickly became disenchanted 
         with the proceedings.       

545
00:25:27,234 --> 00:25:30,237
         Particularly the roles      
           of J. Edgar Hoover        

546
00:25:30,278 --> 00:25:34,157
      and acting attorney general    
          Nicholas Katzenbach.       

547
00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:37,285
       His personal papers at the    
     University of Georgia Library   

548
00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:38,912
             contain a memo          

549
00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:42,749
       written after the initial     
          December 5th, 1963,        

550
00:25:42,791 --> 00:25:44,834
           executive session.        

551
00:25:44,876 --> 00:25:47,254
           "Something strange        
             is happening.           

552
00:25:47,295 --> 00:25:50,382
      "Warren and Katzenbach know    
           all about the FBI         

553
00:25:50,423 --> 00:25:53,343
          "and are apparently        
        planning to show Oswald      

554
00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,512
      "as the only one considered.   

555
00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:59,474
             This to me is           
        an untenable position."      

556
00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:02,602
      His papers revealed that he    
       wrote a dissenting opinion    

557
00:26:02,644 --> 00:26:04,854
          for the presentation       
              at the final           

558
00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:07,691
           commission meeting        
           of September 18th.        

559
00:26:07,732 --> 00:26:10,360
              On that day,           
         he shared his concerns      

560
00:26:10,402 --> 00:26:11,945
        with President Johnson.      

561
00:26:50,692 --> 00:26:54,446
     [Goldberg]   He also thought     
   that Oswald     did not act alone. 

562
00:26:54,487 --> 00:26:57,407
 Russell was strongly influenced   
          by the Zapruder film       

563
00:26:57,449 --> 00:27:00,410
          and by the testimony       
         of Governor Connally.       

564
00:27:00,452 --> 00:27:02,203
   I understand there's some, uh,   

565
00:27:02,245 --> 00:27:04,623
           some question            
    in the minds of the experts     

566
00:27:04,664 --> 00:27:06,791
     about, uh, whether or not      

567
00:27:06,833 --> 00:27:09,294
    we could both have been hit     
        by the same bullet,         

568
00:27:09,336 --> 00:27:10,837
   and that was the first bullet.   

569
00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:13,548
      Uh, I just don't happen       
          to believe that.          

570
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:15,508
          I don't believe           
      that I will believe it.       

571
00:27:15,550 --> 00:27:17,385
       [Goldberg]   This forced       
        the other commissioners      

572
00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:20,180
     to include Connally's dissent   
             in the report.          

573
00:27:20,221 --> 00:27:23,600
            And as a result,         
     they could not absolutely deny 

574
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:27,145
            the possibility          
            of a conspiracy.         

575
00:27:27,187 --> 00:27:29,147
             Russell became          
         the first commissioner      

576
00:27:29,189 --> 00:27:32,150
              to criticize           
      the Warren Report in public.   

577
00:27:32,192 --> 00:27:34,027
            He was followed          
         by commission members       

578
00:27:34,069 --> 00:27:38,198
          John Sherman Cooper        
            and Hale Boggs.          

579
00:27:38,239 --> 00:27:41,618
        But then Walter Cronkite     
        interviewed John McCloy      

580
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:45,705
      during a four-night special,   
        co-hosted by Dan Rather.     

581
00:27:45,747 --> 00:27:48,500
         Are you satisfied          
        that as much effort         

582
00:27:48,541 --> 00:27:53,046
   was put into challenging that    
   case as into establishing it?    

583
00:27:53,088 --> 00:27:54,297
            I'll answer             
       that in just a moment.       

584
00:27:54,339 --> 00:27:56,257
    If I may just say one thing,    
             I would--              

585
00:27:56,299 --> 00:27:57,467
          I'd like to say           
        in the first place,         

586
00:27:57,509 --> 00:27:59,052
        I had some questions        

587
00:27:59,094 --> 00:28:01,262
        as to the propriety         
        of my appearing here        

588
00:28:01,304 --> 00:28:03,431
         as a former member         
         of the commission          

589
00:28:03,473 --> 00:28:05,684
           to comment on            
 the evidence of the commission.   

590
00:28:05,725 --> 00:28:09,187
      [Goldberg]   McCloy never       
     answered Cronkite's question.   

591
00:28:09,229 --> 00:28:12,691
            But even worse,          
      CBS employee Roger Feinman     

592
00:28:12,732 --> 00:28:15,068
           later discovered          
          internal documents         

593
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:17,195
             showing McCoy           
         consulted extensively       

594
00:28:17,237 --> 00:28:19,739
             on the series           
      through his daughter, Ellen,   

595
00:28:19,781 --> 00:28:24,577
     an administrative assistant to 
     CBS President Richard Salant.   

596
00:28:24,619 --> 00:28:28,081
                In 1992,             
        reporter Jerry Policoff      

597
00:28:28,123 --> 00:28:31,167
           confronted Salant         
            and Ellen McCoy          

598
00:28:31,209 --> 00:28:34,546
      with the documents revealing   
       John McCloy's instructions    

599
00:28:34,587 --> 00:28:36,631
      for the content of the show.   

600
00:28:36,673 --> 00:28:40,677
          Only then did Salant       
      admit to their concealment.    

601
00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:43,430
               CBS, NBC,             
         and    The New York Times     

602
00:28:43,471 --> 00:28:46,349
          continued to support       
        the commission's finding     

603
00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:48,143
      and never publicly reviewed    

604
00:28:48,184 --> 00:28:52,605
             the 26 volumes          
       of supplemental evidence.     

605
00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:55,400
    Mr. Dulles, let me put some     
     of the criticisms to you.      

606
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:56,776
              Surely.               

607
00:28:56,818 --> 00:28:58,653
         Some of the papers         
     and some of the documents      

608
00:28:58,695 --> 00:29:01,197
      that are in the archives      
          are-- are there           

609
00:29:01,239 --> 00:29:04,701
    but are withheld from public    
     view by the FBI, the CIA,      

610
00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:07,412
     an organization with which     
     you have some experience.      

611
00:29:07,454 --> 00:29:10,248
     Is there anything in those     
        which years from now        

612
00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:12,500
     when they may be released      
       will upset applecarts?       

613
00:29:12,542 --> 00:29:14,002
     Oh, no, I don't think so.      

614
00:29:14,043 --> 00:29:17,046
       No, I think everything       
     that really is-- is vital      

615
00:29:17,088 --> 00:29:19,090
         insofar as forming         
       a judgment as to what        

616
00:29:19,132 --> 00:29:21,926
          really happened           
      has been made available.      

617
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,682
             [Goldberg]             
         The Warren Commission       
      was aware     of something else   

618
00:29:27,724 --> 00:29:29,350
             that was wrong          
          with their evidence.       

619
00:29:29,392 --> 00:29:32,479
    All kinds of ballistic tests    
 show that the bullets, in fact,   

620
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,981
       came from that rifle.        
        That was his rifle.         

621
00:29:35,023 --> 00:29:36,983
              You took              
     a picture of him with it.      

622
00:29:37,025 --> 00:29:38,777
              -No, no.              
          -His home prints          
          and fingerprints          

623
00:29:38,818 --> 00:29:40,987
            are all over            
    the School Book Depository.     

624
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:42,739
          [Marina Porter]           
       You have been misinformed.    

625
00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:47,243
          The ballistics tests       
     did not prove anything at all. 

626
00:29:47,285 --> 00:29:49,370
         [reporter]   This is         
       the weapon that was used.     

627
00:29:49,412 --> 00:29:53,124
           A rather well-worn        
            military rifle.          

628
00:29:53,166 --> 00:29:57,754
        We know that Oswald         
    had possession of that rifle    

629
00:29:57,796 --> 00:29:59,464
        because we have him         
       photographed with it.        

630
00:29:59,506 --> 00:30:03,426
        And we have his wife        
     saying that it was, quote,     

631
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,845
 "Faithful rifle of Lee Oswald."   

632
00:30:07,222 --> 00:30:09,390
              [Stone]               
     Is the rifle in evidence today 

633
00:30:09,432 --> 00:30:11,059
           the same rifle           
        the commission said         

634
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,019
           Oswald ordered           
         through the mail?          

635
00:30:13,061 --> 00:30:15,188
     The rifle that Lee Oswald      

636
00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:18,858
      allegedly ordered under       
      an alias of Alex Hidell,      

637
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,444
    was obtained through Klein's    
 Sporting Goods store in Chicago. 

638
00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:25,198
 it was a mail-order, got it out   
     of American Rifleman magazine. 

639
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,492
         He wrote on the coupon      
               he wanted             

640
00:30:27,534 --> 00:30:29,869
            a 36-inch model,         
          Mannlicher-Carcano,        

641
00:30:29,911 --> 00:30:34,165
      6.5 millimeter, for $19.95.    

642
00:30:34,207 --> 00:30:36,417
           Robert Frazier           
      was one of the examiners      

643
00:30:36,459 --> 00:30:38,545
               and he was            
     a firearms expert for the FBI. 

644
00:30:38,586 --> 00:30:40,964
            And he testified         
        that he did measure it,      

645
00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:41,965
          and the measurement        

646
00:30:42,006 --> 00:30:44,050
       was 40.2 inches in length,    

647
00:30:44,092 --> 00:30:45,718
         from barrel to stock.       

648
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,221
     There's a 4.2-inch difference   
         in the one he ordered,      

649
00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:51,391
         versus what they found      
        in the Book Depository.      

650
00:30:51,432 --> 00:30:54,060
         [Goldberg]   Klein's         
       may have indeed delivered     

651
00:30:54,102 --> 00:30:57,397
     a different Mannlicher-Carcano 
            model to Oswald,         

652
00:30:57,438 --> 00:31:00,650
          but there are other        
        anomalies to the story.      

653
00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:02,861
     The model that Oswald ordered   

654
00:31:02,902 --> 00:31:05,238
              showed these           
        strap attachment points      

655
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,740
             on the bottom           
        of the barrel and stock.     

656
00:31:07,782 --> 00:31:10,076
          [Brian Edwards]           
           In the photograph         
        is Lieutenant Carl Day,      

657
00:31:10,118 --> 00:31:11,411
         with the Dallas Police      
               Department            

658
00:31:11,452 --> 00:31:13,913
          bringing a rifle out       
        of the Book Depository.      

659
00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:17,375
     One of the straps at the back   
     of the gun is on the left side 

660
00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,420
              of the stock           
         embedded in the stock.      

661
00:31:20,461 --> 00:31:22,463
      That's clearly not the rifle   
           that was ordered,         

662
00:31:22,505 --> 00:31:25,633
       or at least appears in the    
     Klein's     Sporting Goods store. 

663
00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:28,720
   [Goldberg]   The straps shown in   
     the so-called backyard photos   

664
00:31:28,761 --> 00:31:32,765
         are on the bottom and       
     not on the side of the stock.   

665
00:31:32,807 --> 00:31:37,020
    Marina Oswald took backyard     
     photographs of Lee Oswald      

666
00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:40,273
          holding a rifle           
      and a pistol on his hip.      

667
00:31:40,315 --> 00:31:43,860
   And in that first photograph,    
      that she took three of,       

668
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:49,532
           Commission Exhibit        
             133A and 133B           

669
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:54,704
     show a ring on the ring finger 
           of the right hand.        

670
00:31:54,746 --> 00:31:59,125
         133C, the ring appears      
           on the left hand.         

671
00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:01,628
       In fact, the Dallas Police    
           showed Lee Oswald         

672
00:32:01,669 --> 00:32:04,130
          one of the pictures        
     while he was still in custody. 

673
00:32:04,172 --> 00:32:05,965
       He said, "That's my face,     
          but I don't remember       

674
00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:08,801
            ever having that         
         picture taken of me."       

675
00:32:08,843 --> 00:32:11,220
        [Goldberg]   But after        
     all these questions are asked, 

676
00:32:11,262 --> 00:32:13,932
 the underlying mystery remains.   

677
00:32:13,973 --> 00:32:17,977
      Why would anyone use a rifle   
          in an assassination,       

678
00:32:18,019 --> 00:32:20,104
 knowing there was a paper trail   

679
00:32:20,146 --> 00:32:23,483
            that would lead          
          right back to them?        

680
00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:26,527
       Was there a palm print       
        found on the rifle?         

681
00:32:26,569 --> 00:32:31,157
 The foremost fingerprint expert   
   the FBI had, Sebastian Latona,   

682
00:32:31,199 --> 00:32:34,661
   took that rifle and attempted    
 to lift prints off of the rifle, 

683
00:32:34,702 --> 00:32:36,496
      the stock and/or the barrel.   

684
00:32:36,537 --> 00:32:38,373
            Uh, he testified         
        to the Warren Commission     

685
00:32:38,414 --> 00:32:41,125
   that he found no usable prints   

686
00:32:41,167 --> 00:32:45,004
      anywhere on that rifle,       
     on the metal or the stock.     

687
00:32:45,046 --> 00:32:47,840
                But yet,             
        Lieutenant Day in Dallas     

688
00:32:47,882 --> 00:32:51,052
         before the rifle went       
      to Washington, said he found   

689
00:32:51,094 --> 00:32:53,680
      a partial palm print on the    
     trigger guard on the left side 

690
00:32:53,721 --> 00:32:57,809
     and a partial print underneath 
        the stock on the barrel.     

691
00:32:57,850 --> 00:33:00,019
        But Sebastian Latona        
     said there was no evidence     

692
00:33:00,061 --> 00:33:01,437
          that a lift had           
        even been attempted.        

693
00:33:01,479 --> 00:33:03,147
              [Stone]               
        No partials at all?         

694
00:33:03,189 --> 00:33:04,774
       Nothing that he could        
           use in court.            

695
00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:07,276
    There has to be eight points    
         of identification.         

696
00:33:07,318 --> 00:33:10,321
          He found nothing          
       that would match that.       

697
00:33:10,363 --> 00:33:13,992
        [woman on recorder]         
       J. Edgar Hoover, on 2192.     

698
00:33:14,033 --> 00:33:14,742
             [Johnson]              
                Yes?                

699
00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:18,538
              [Hoover]              
         I've seen the reports       
        on this investigation.       

700
00:33:18,579 --> 00:33:21,958
           This man, Oswald,         
       he had fired three shots.     

701
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,002
      He then threw the gun aside,   

702
00:33:24,043 --> 00:33:30,508
 and, uh, he apparently had come   
 down the five flights of steps.   

703
00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:33,177
               A stairway            
         from the fifth floor.       

704
00:33:33,219 --> 00:33:34,846
             [Johnson]              
          You can prove that?        

705
00:33:34,887 --> 00:33:37,181
         [Hoover]   Oh, yes.          
      Oh, yes, we can prove that.    

706
00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:40,184
    [Johnson]   Did anybody hear,     
            anybody see him?         

707
00:33:40,226 --> 00:33:43,062
   [Hoover]   Most of the employees   
 were down on a lower floor, but   

708
00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:46,858
      he was stopped at the second   
       floor by a police officer.    

709
00:33:46,899 --> 00:33:49,736
           And some workers,         
      some manager in the building   

710
00:33:49,777 --> 00:33:51,863
 told the police officer, "Well,   
     he's all right, he works here. 

711
00:33:51,904 --> 00:33:53,406
         You needn't hold him."      

712
00:33:53,448 --> 00:33:55,825
          So they let him go.        
         That's how he got out.      

713
00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:58,119
    [Marrion Baker]   At the time     
       that I heard those shots,     

714
00:33:58,161 --> 00:34:02,040
    I ran into that building and    
 made it up to the second floor.   

715
00:34:02,081 --> 00:34:05,418
   It was approximately a minute    
     and a half to two minutes.     

716
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:07,920
       [Cronkite]   In possibly       
         less than two minutes,      

717
00:34:07,962 --> 00:34:10,506
           investigators came        
      to the School Book Building    

718
00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:12,884
            with stopwatches         
           and critical eyes.        

719
00:34:12,925 --> 00:34:15,845
     Not only police and government 
       agents traced that route,     

720
00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:18,347
     Chief Justice Warren and some   
        other commission members     

721
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:19,766
         did it for themselves.      

722
00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:23,436
      I was interested in finding    

723
00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:26,272
         a specific witness         
       to the assassination,        

724
00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:28,274
     which was Victoria Adams.      

725
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,611
     She worked on the fourth floor 

726
00:34:31,652 --> 00:34:33,946
          of the Texas School        
            Book Depository,         

727
00:34:33,988 --> 00:34:36,324
          and she knew Oswald.       

728
00:34:36,365 --> 00:34:38,576
 I went to the National Archives   

729
00:34:38,618 --> 00:34:42,830
           searching for            
      her original testimony.       

730
00:34:42,872 --> 00:34:44,624
        I was told that the tape     

731
00:34:44,665 --> 00:34:47,460
             containing her          
         testimony was missing.      

732
00:34:47,502 --> 00:34:49,962
          And later I learned        
             that that tape          

733
00:34:50,004 --> 00:34:53,257
           had been destroyed        
       by the Warren Commission.     

734
00:34:53,299 --> 00:34:55,510
          And so I finally          
        ended up finding her        

735
00:34:55,551 --> 00:34:58,638
            and getting             
       her side of the story.       

736
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:02,225
         Vicki Adams was 22 at       
     the time of the assassination, 

737
00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:04,185
         and she testified          
          that immediately          

738
00:35:04,227 --> 00:35:07,021
      after the assassination,      

739
00:35:07,063 --> 00:35:09,273
      she ran down the back stairs   

740
00:35:09,315 --> 00:35:11,317
             to get     outside         
       to see what was going on.     

741
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:13,653
         If that were true,         

742
00:35:13,694 --> 00:35:17,907
       she would have seen Oswald    
          on the back stairs.        

743
00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:20,660
   But she testified that she saw   
         and heard no one.          

744
00:35:21,994 --> 00:35:24,330
            She had realized         
       that something was wrong,     

745
00:35:24,372 --> 00:35:26,415
           because no one           
         was believing her.         

746
00:35:26,457 --> 00:35:29,919
       So she asked David Belin,     
        who was questioning her,     

747
00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:31,838
     "Interview Sandra Styles,      

748
00:35:31,879 --> 00:35:35,341
          a coworker who went        
       down the stairs with me."     

749
00:35:35,383 --> 00:35:37,760
              This became            
        a rather serious problem     

750
00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:39,554
       for the Warren Commission,    

751
00:35:39,595 --> 00:35:45,184
     because discrediting one woman 
            was easy to do.          

752
00:35:45,226 --> 00:35:48,271
            But discrediting         
        a corroborating witness,     

753
00:35:48,312 --> 00:35:50,690
           that may have been        
         a little bit tougher.       

754
00:35:50,731 --> 00:35:54,485
           So Belin said,           
   "We don't need Sandra Styles,    

755
00:35:54,527 --> 00:35:55,403
           we have you."            

756
00:35:56,571 --> 00:35:57,822
               [man]                
        We've had Mr. Belin here     

757
00:35:57,864 --> 00:35:59,365
              with us too,           
         one of our counselors       

758
00:35:59,407 --> 00:36:01,284
            who's been here          
         several times, and...       

759
00:36:01,325 --> 00:36:05,204
       He knows this city now       
       as very few people do.       

760
00:36:05,246 --> 00:36:08,958
           [Barry Ernest]           
          According to Vicki's       
        original     FBI testimony,     

761
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,544
          she left the window        
          on the fourth floor        

762
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:15,047
        within 15 to 30 seconds      
         of the assassination.       

763
00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:18,384
     The Warren Commission elevated 
        that time to one minute.     

764
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:21,220
        She said she arrived        
         on the first floor         

765
00:36:21,262 --> 00:36:24,056
         within 60 seconds          
       of the assassination.        

766
00:36:24,098 --> 00:36:28,186
   The Warren Commission elevated   
   that time to several minutes.    

767
00:36:28,227 --> 00:36:30,646
                So what              
       the Warren Commission did     

768
00:36:30,688 --> 00:36:32,982
            was successfully         
           deceive the public        

769
00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:36,903
    into thinking that Vicki was    
   just another confused witness.   

770
00:36:36,944 --> 00:36:37,945
            Case closed.            

771
00:36:37,987 --> 00:36:39,405
        Reenactments prove,         

772
00:36:39,447 --> 00:36:42,033
          the report says,          
     that Oswald did have time,     

773
00:36:42,074 --> 00:36:45,244
      just enough time to fire      
    the shots, secret the rifle,    

774
00:36:45,286 --> 00:36:47,663
 and get down to the second floor 
             cafeteria.             

775
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:55,338
 But in 1999, I found a document   
      in the National Archives      

776
00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:59,258
      that had been suppressed      
           for 35 years.            

777
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,636
      It was a letter written       

778
00:37:01,677 --> 00:37:05,514
        by Assistant US Attorney     
           Martha Jo Stroud.         

779
00:37:05,556 --> 00:37:08,684
      It was a transmittal letter    
               forwarding            

780
00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:11,979
        Vicki's signed testimony     
           to J. Lee Rankin,         

781
00:37:12,021 --> 00:37:14,398
            the head honcho          
       of the Warren Commission's    

782
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,859
      investigation at that point.   

783
00:37:16,901 --> 00:37:19,195
       In the last paragraph        
          of that letter,           

784
00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:21,239
     almost as an afterthought,     

785
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,701
      we're introduced to a woman    
     by the name of Dorothy Garner. 

786
00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:29,747
           Garner was Vicki's        
          immediate supervisor       

787
00:37:29,789 --> 00:37:32,792
             who had stood           
       at the window with Vicki.     

788
00:37:32,833 --> 00:37:36,087
      The letter quotes Garner      
       as saying that she saw       

789
00:37:36,128 --> 00:37:38,047
        Vicki go down the stairs     

790
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:43,970
      before she saw Officer Baker   
         and Roy Truly come up.      

791
00:37:44,011 --> 00:37:47,348
    When I found and interviewed    
          Dorothy Garner,           

792
00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:49,225
     she confirmed everything.      

793
00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:52,019
       She said that she had been    
       at the window with Vicki,     

794
00:37:52,061 --> 00:37:55,731
          that Vicki had left        
        the window immediately,      

795
00:37:55,773 --> 00:37:59,902
       that she actually followed    
        Vicki outside the office     

796
00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:03,864
     and to a point where she could 
     see her going down the stairs. 

797
00:38:03,906 --> 00:38:07,243
    And during that whole time,     
       she never saw Oswald.        

798
00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:10,997
      So the Stroud letter became    
       a very dangerous document     

799
00:38:11,038 --> 00:38:13,958
       for the Warren Commission.    

800
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,295
             [Goldberg]             
       Without the Review Board's    
       declassification process,     

801
00:38:17,336 --> 00:38:21,048
      we would never have learned    
     of the corroborating testimony 

802
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:24,885
           of three witnesses        
     that provide powerful evidence 

803
00:38:24,927 --> 00:38:27,388
          that Oswald was not        
           on the sixth floor        

804
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:29,807
      at the time of the shooting.   

805
00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:45,656
   Legally speaking, the autopsy    
 should have been done in Dallas, 

806
00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:48,701
      and there was a forensic      
      pathologist, Earl Rose.       

807
00:38:48,743 --> 00:38:51,078
              He was there           
         to assume jurisdiction      

808
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,289
         and to do the autopsy.      

809
00:38:53,331 --> 00:38:55,458
           He was pushed            
        up against the wall         

810
00:38:55,499 --> 00:38:57,668
            and threatened,          
             hands on guns,          

811
00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:59,587
     a lot of expletives and so on. 

812
00:38:59,628 --> 00:39:01,422
          He followed them          
        out of the driveway,        

813
00:39:01,464 --> 00:39:04,717
       and they took the body       
      illegally out of Dallas       

814
00:39:04,759 --> 00:39:07,553
        in violation of the laws     
         in the state of Texas.      

815
00:39:08,846 --> 00:39:10,473
             [Goldberg]             
          After    Air Force One       

816
00:39:10,514 --> 00:39:12,183
      left Dallas for Washington,    

817
00:39:12,224 --> 00:39:15,478
     two of the key doctors who had 
      tried to save Kennedy's life   

818
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,647
         at Parkland Hospital,       
        held a press conference.     

819
00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:22,568
      They were Dr. Malcolm Perry    
          and Dr. Kemp Clark.        

820
00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:25,029
         When were the two          
      major points of evidence      

821
00:39:25,071 --> 00:39:26,489
       revealed by Kemp Clark       
         and Malcolm Perry          

822
00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:28,324
      at the press conference?      

823
00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:30,409
        Dr. Perry performed         
          the tracheotomy           

824
00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:32,828
      to help Kennedy breathe,      

825
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:34,997
       and at a press conference     
              right after            

826
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,958
        the failed resuscitation     
           efforts in Dallas,        

827
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,585
             he was asked,           
     "Well, where was the bullet?"   

828
00:39:39,627 --> 00:39:41,379
 He said, "The bullet looked like 
       it was coming at him.        

829
00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:43,255
      He had an entrance wound      
          in the throat."           

830
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:45,674
          [Douglas Horne]           
              Kemp Clarke            

831
00:39:45,716 --> 00:39:47,051
              was the head           
      of neurosurgery at Parkland.   

832
00:39:47,093 --> 00:39:50,304
       He said that the President    
           had a gaping wound        

833
00:39:50,346 --> 00:39:51,931
 in the occipital-parietal area.   

834
00:39:51,972 --> 00:39:54,308
           That's, you know,         
      the right rear of the head.    

835
00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:56,394
       And so the description       
          he gave of that           

836
00:39:56,435 --> 00:39:59,480
      was entirely consistent       
        with an exit wound.         

837
00:39:59,522 --> 00:40:00,815
       We have a transcript today    

838
00:40:00,856 --> 00:40:02,400
           of what they said         
        at the press conference.     

839
00:40:02,441 --> 00:40:05,653
     So it's White House transcript 
                 1327C.              

840
00:40:05,694 --> 00:40:07,238
        That's a very important      
          historical document,       

841
00:40:07,279 --> 00:40:10,408
       because the Secret Service    
       confiscated the videotapes    

842
00:40:10,449 --> 00:40:12,243
      from the local TV stations.    

843
00:40:12,284 --> 00:40:16,163
   [Goldberg]   There is, however,    
     a surviving clip of Dr. Perry   

844
00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:19,083
           recorded not long         
      after the press conference.    

845
00:40:32,471 --> 00:40:35,224
 [Goldberg]   What Clark and Perry   
         both revealed     that day     

846
00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:39,061
             would indicate          
      an assassin from the front.    

847
00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:41,313
             And Assistant           
      White House Press Secretary    

848
00:40:41,355 --> 00:40:43,649
      Malcolm Kilduff's statement    

849
00:40:43,691 --> 00:40:47,153
            seems to support         
            this conclusion.         

850
00:40:47,194 --> 00:40:53,576
 It's a simple matter of a bullet 
      right through the head.       

851
00:40:55,703 --> 00:40:57,079
             [Goldberg]             
      The day after the shooting,    

852
00:40:57,121 --> 00:40:59,999
           Dr. Perry was seen        
         by Nurse Audrey Bell,       

853
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,334
         who had been with him       
         in the operating room.      

854
00:41:02,376 --> 00:41:05,087
 [Audrey Bell]   Saturday morning,   
         when I got over there,      

855
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:07,339
               Dr. Perry             
         came up to the office.      

856
00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:08,841
        I said, "You look awful.     

857
00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:11,177
              Did you get            
         any sleep last night?"      

858
00:41:11,218 --> 00:41:13,429
     He said, "Well, not too much,   

859
00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:17,349
 between the calls from Bethesda   
 that came in during the night."   

860
00:41:17,391 --> 00:41:18,851
         I said, "What about?"       

861
00:41:18,893 --> 00:41:21,896
         He said, "Oh, whether       
       that was an entrance wound    

862
00:41:21,937 --> 00:41:23,856
            or an exit wound         
            in the throat."          

863
00:41:23,898 --> 00:41:25,774
     He said, "They were wanting me 
          to change my mind."        

864
00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:28,861
      In his Warren Commission      
             testimony,             

865
00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:31,530
       he basically retracted       
          what he had said          

866
00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:33,824
          and they forced him        
              to back down           

867
00:41:33,866 --> 00:41:36,243
          and     intimidated him       
         on the witness stand.       

868
00:41:36,285 --> 00:41:38,996
          It was really quite        
          embarrassing for me        
             as a physician          

869
00:41:39,038 --> 00:41:41,624
      to see how someone else       
     who was telling the truth      

870
00:41:41,665 --> 00:41:44,210
        was basically forced        
     to recant his own opinion.     

871
00:41:44,251 --> 00:41:46,921
 Did it occur to you at the time   
         or did you think,          

872
00:41:46,962 --> 00:41:51,175
      "Was this an entry wound      
    or was this an exit wound?"     

873
00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:53,719
     Actually, I didn't really      
        give it much thought        

874
00:41:53,761 --> 00:41:55,513
    and I realized that perhaps     

875
00:41:55,554 --> 00:41:57,515
         it would have been         
       better had I done so.        

876
00:41:57,556 --> 00:42:00,518
           But I actually           
        applied my energies,        

877
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:02,520
   and those of us there all did,   

878
00:42:02,561 --> 00:42:04,313
      to the problem at hand.       

879
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:06,315
        And I didn't really         
      concern myself too much       

880
00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:08,692
    with how it happened or why.    

881
00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:13,239
    In 1975, Dr. Shires hired me    

882
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,492
           on the faculty           
 at the University of Washington   

883
00:42:16,534 --> 00:42:18,494
             in the cardiac          
           surgery division.         

884
00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:22,581
        So I got to know Malcolm     
       when I joined the faculty.    

885
00:42:22,623 --> 00:42:24,875
            We developed            
    a professional relationship,    

886
00:42:24,917 --> 00:42:28,546
   and we would operate together    
         on complex cases.          

887
00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:34,552
   I was particularly interested    
    in, uh, Dr. Perry's position    

888
00:42:34,593 --> 00:42:36,303
     with the JFK assassination     

889
00:42:36,345 --> 00:42:40,391
   because he did the tracheotomy   
     on him after he was shot.      

890
00:42:40,432 --> 00:42:44,478
    The problem is that Malcolm     
       categorically refused        

891
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,148
          to ever discuss           
         the assassination,         

892
00:42:48,190 --> 00:42:51,110
        uh, and he wouldn't         
        answer my questions         
       about that neck wound.       

893
00:42:51,151 --> 00:42:53,862
         And then one night         
   after we had operated together   

894
00:42:53,904 --> 00:42:57,032
           for many hours           
         on a complex case,         

895
00:42:57,074 --> 00:42:59,118
         we were sitting in         
    the surgeons' lounge alone,     

896
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:01,120
          drinking coffee,          

897
00:43:01,161 --> 00:43:04,873
     and I once again asked him     
       about that neck wound.       

898
00:43:04,915 --> 00:43:10,754
       And this time, he said       
     it was an entrance wound,      

899
00:43:10,796 --> 00:43:14,758
           unquestionably           
         an entrance wound.         

900
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,054
   One of the-- the main reasons    
 Dr. Perry changed his testimony   

901
00:43:19,096 --> 00:43:21,974
        and publicly agreed         
        it was an exit wound        

902
00:43:22,016 --> 00:43:25,978
   is a Secret Service agent, uh,   
      put the pressure on him,      

903
00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:28,814
 and that person was Elmer Moore. 

904
00:43:29,982 --> 00:43:32,443
                In 1970,             
        Elmer Moore was the head     

905
00:43:32,484 --> 00:43:35,321
      of the Secret Service office   
               in Seattle            

906
00:43:35,362 --> 00:43:38,699
       and a graduate student       
        named Jim Gochenaur         

907
00:43:38,741 --> 00:43:40,659
        became friends with him,     

908
00:43:40,701 --> 00:43:43,412
          and he admitted           
   to Gochenaur that he regretted   

909
00:43:43,454 --> 00:43:46,790
     putting pressure on Dr. Perry. 

910
00:43:46,832 --> 00:43:48,917
      So I asked him directly.      

911
00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:54,548
        I said, "Mr. Moore,         
    did you pressure Dr. Perry?"    

912
00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:55,924
      He stopped for a minute.      

913
00:43:55,966 --> 00:43:58,344
       He says, "Well, I was        
        ordered to do that."        

914
00:43:58,385 --> 00:43:59,803
           He expanded on it.        

915
00:43:59,845 --> 00:44:01,263
              And he said            
         that Inspector Kelley       

916
00:44:01,305 --> 00:44:04,808
            had ordered him          
           to talk with Perry        

917
00:44:04,850 --> 00:44:06,769
       and, uh, convince him        
          that it could be          

918
00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:09,521
           either an exit           
         or an entry wound,         

919
00:44:09,563 --> 00:44:12,024
        not an entry wound.         

920
00:44:12,066 --> 00:44:15,527
           And I thought            
     it was pretty interesting      

921
00:44:15,569 --> 00:44:20,199
 that he would admit to something 
 that's pretty close to a felony. 

922
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,993
          [Donald Miller]           
   Elmer Moore     was also in charge 

923
00:44:23,035 --> 00:44:24,703
               of getting            
        the doctors at Parkland      

924
00:44:24,745 --> 00:44:26,997
       to change their testimony,    

925
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:28,832
             and agree              
     that there was no big hole     

926
00:44:28,874 --> 00:44:32,044
     in the back of Kennedy's head. 

927
00:44:32,086 --> 00:44:34,963
    [Goldberg]   Charles Crenshaw,    
         a third year resident,      

928
00:44:35,005 --> 00:44:38,258
       was in the emergency room     
         at Parkland that day.       

929
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:41,804
      He later said in public that   
     he felt the wounds in Kennedy   

930
00:44:41,845 --> 00:44:44,306
       originated from the front.    

931
00:44:44,348 --> 00:44:46,809
        From here, through.         

932
00:44:46,850 --> 00:44:49,019
           [Gary Aguilar]           
     Charles Crenshaw wrote a book, 

933
00:44:49,061 --> 00:44:51,522
       Conspiracy of Silence,       
      in the wake of the film    JFK, 

934
00:44:51,563 --> 00:44:53,732
             saying, "Look,          
      I was at Parkland Hospital.    

935
00:44:53,774 --> 00:44:56,694
          "I saw Kennedy,           
 I was involved in the treatment, 

936
00:44:56,735 --> 00:44:58,404
       "and Kennedy's wounds        
        were not consistent         

937
00:44:58,445 --> 00:45:00,489
      "with a shot from above       
         and behind because         

938
00:45:00,531 --> 00:45:03,242
     he had a defect involving      
    the right rear of his head."    

939
00:45:05,452 --> 00:45:06,995
        [man over recorder]         
         Using the most precise      

940
00:45:07,037 --> 00:45:08,497
          medical terminology        
           that you can use.         

941
00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:09,915
    [Audrey Bell over recorder]     
            Okay, let's see,         

942
00:45:09,957 --> 00:45:13,252
        it was on the right rear     

943
00:45:13,293 --> 00:45:17,256
        and he shifted the head,     
       a little bit, to the left,    

944
00:45:17,297 --> 00:45:21,593
      lifted up the, well, kind of   
       the matted area, the flap.    

945
00:45:21,635 --> 00:45:25,556
           And you could see         
             the, uh, hole,          

946
00:45:25,597 --> 00:45:27,933
           and there was, uh,        

947
00:45:27,975 --> 00:45:32,271
         brain and spinal fluid      
        dripping down out of it.     

948
00:45:32,312 --> 00:45:35,107
 Then I noticed it was dripping,   
     you know, down into a bucket.   

949
00:45:37,568 --> 00:45:39,319
              [Stone]               
           As early as 1981,         

950
00:45:39,361 --> 00:45:41,905
      copies of the autopsy photos   
              were leaked            

951
00:45:41,947 --> 00:45:45,075
            and distributed          
         among JFK researchers.      

952
00:45:45,117 --> 00:45:46,744
               The image             
        of Kennedy's head wound      

953
00:45:46,785 --> 00:45:51,415
 contradicted what was witnessed   
        by the Parkland doctors.     

954
00:45:51,457 --> 00:45:56,253
     I recall the injury being      
     right along in this area.      

955
00:45:59,423 --> 00:46:02,843
 [Mantik]   It's as if the autopsy   
        materials were designed      

956
00:46:02,885 --> 00:46:05,304
            to hide what            
       was really happening,        

957
00:46:05,345 --> 00:46:07,723
         as opposed to what         
      they should usually do.       

958
00:46:07,765 --> 00:46:12,352
     They're supposed to reveal     
     the full extent of things.     

959
00:46:12,394 --> 00:46:14,438
       [Goldberg]   The evening       
         of the assassination,       

960
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,233
     the body of President Kennedy   
      was returned to Washington.    

961
00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:21,653
       The autopsy was performed     
      at Bethesda Medical Center,    

962
00:46:21,695 --> 00:46:23,739
          a naval institution.       

963
00:46:23,781 --> 00:46:25,616
           All of the top           
       forensic pathologists        

964
00:46:25,657 --> 00:46:27,159
        in the United States        

965
00:46:27,201 --> 00:46:30,788
     were within one-hour drive     
      or flying time from D.C.      

966
00:46:30,829 --> 00:46:32,831
 Not one of them was called upon. 

967
00:46:32,873 --> 00:46:34,833
           There were two           
         Navy pathologists,         

968
00:46:34,875 --> 00:46:36,418
       Commander James Humes        

969
00:46:36,460 --> 00:46:38,504
           and his associate,        
          J. Thornton Boswell.       

970
00:46:38,545 --> 00:46:42,257
 These two military pathologists   
         who had never done         

971
00:46:42,299 --> 00:46:45,803
   a single gunshot-wound autopsy   
      in their entire careers.      

972
00:46:45,844 --> 00:46:47,387
   This is something that really    

973
00:46:47,429 --> 00:46:49,389
        has to be emphasized        
         to every American.         

974
00:46:49,431 --> 00:46:51,558
           I don't care,            
       Democrat, Republican,        
       liberal, conservative.       

975
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,018
      This is your president,       

976
00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:55,270
           and you've got           
      multiple gunshot wounds       

977
00:46:55,312 --> 00:46:58,524
 to determine angles, trajectory, 
          range, sequence.          

978
00:46:58,565 --> 00:46:59,942
 And then you've got to correlate 

979
00:46:59,983 --> 00:47:01,568
         with the multiple          
    gunshot wounds in Connally.     

980
00:47:01,610 --> 00:47:04,154
     This is a formidable task      
      that would have required      

981
00:47:04,196 --> 00:47:08,283
    two or three major forensic     
 pathologists to-- to undertake.   

982
00:47:08,325 --> 00:47:10,494
           So they called           
         Humes and Boswell.         

983
00:47:10,536 --> 00:47:11,870
           They realized            
     they were over their head.     

984
00:47:11,912 --> 00:47:13,247
      They called in an expert      

985
00:47:13,288 --> 00:47:15,040
       from the Armed Forces        
      Institute of Pathology,       

986
00:47:15,082 --> 00:47:16,625
       a guy named Pierre Finck.     

987
00:47:16,667 --> 00:47:19,169
         Dr. Humes and Boswell       
          started the autopsy        

988
00:47:19,211 --> 00:47:21,547
         before their forensics      
       consultant even got there,    

989
00:47:21,588 --> 00:47:23,549
         but they realized          
   they were in over their head.    

990
00:47:23,590 --> 00:47:26,718
       So they asked to have        
         a medical examiner         
         because Dr. Finck,         

991
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,888
     who is a forensic pathologist, 
        wasn't doing autopsies.      

992
00:47:29,930 --> 00:47:31,557
           He hadn't done one        
        in more than two years.      

993
00:47:31,598 --> 00:47:33,559
    So they asked for permission    
        to bring in somebody        

994
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,479
   who knew what they were doing.   
       Permission was denied.       

995
00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:40,023
             [Aguilar]              
       There were a lot of people    
        at the Bethesda morgue.      

996
00:47:40,065 --> 00:47:41,316
            The latest count         
         by all the researchers      

997
00:47:41,358 --> 00:47:43,902
           that I know of is         
            about 33 people.         

998
00:47:43,944 --> 00:47:46,196
 There was a gallery, bleachers.   

999
00:47:46,238 --> 00:47:49,241
       Apparently, all three rows    
        were filled with people.     

1000
00:47:49,283 --> 00:47:52,327
          These three autopsy        
 pathologists were given a body,   

1001
00:47:52,369 --> 00:47:53,537
      told, "Here's the body,       

1002
00:47:53,579 --> 00:47:55,289
      he was shot from behind,      
         he fell forward,"          

1003
00:47:55,330 --> 00:47:57,291
          which they wrote          
      in their autopsy report,      

1004
00:47:57,332 --> 00:47:58,458
   figure out how the wounds fit    

1005
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:00,460
      the known circumstances       
          of the shooting.          

1006
00:48:00,502 --> 00:48:04,006
   But what this really speaks to   
    is the fact that the autopsy    

1007
00:48:04,047 --> 00:48:05,465
       was not in the control       
          of the surgeons           

1008
00:48:05,507 --> 00:48:07,551
           that were charged         
             with doing it.          

1009
00:48:07,593 --> 00:48:09,678
 It was in the control of people   
            who were there,          

1010
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:12,890
         who were telling them       
           what they could do        
       and what they couldn't do.    

1011
00:48:12,931 --> 00:48:15,601
    [reporter] Let's talk about     
     those two wounds, Captain.     

1012
00:48:15,642 --> 00:48:18,103
         You examined this          
      whole area of the back.       

1013
00:48:18,145 --> 00:48:19,354
     [James J. Humes] Yes, sir.     

1014
00:48:19,396 --> 00:48:21,064
              [Wecht]               
 So on the night of the autopsy,   

1015
00:48:21,106 --> 00:48:23,108
        Humes and Boswell said,      

1016
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:25,193
     "Hey, we got a bullet hole     
     in the President's back,"      

1017
00:48:25,235 --> 00:48:28,113
             which they             
     examined with the finger,      

1018
00:48:28,155 --> 00:48:29,573
      then with an instrument,      
         then took x-rays,          

1019
00:48:29,615 --> 00:48:31,366
      then took out the lungs.      

1020
00:48:31,408 --> 00:48:32,618
          And no bullets.           

1021
00:48:32,659 --> 00:48:34,119
           In a murder case,         

1022
00:48:34,161 --> 00:48:36,788
         that is a very serious      
           problem for them.         

1023
00:48:36,830 --> 00:48:38,332
      So where did that bullet go?   

1024
00:48:38,373 --> 00:48:41,084
     It was just, like you say,     
         a work of fiction.         

1025
00:48:41,126 --> 00:48:43,420
           A call came in           
      from the FBI in Dallas.       

1026
00:48:43,462 --> 00:48:45,005
        A bullet was found.         

1027
00:48:45,047 --> 00:48:46,590
           Darrell Tomlinson,        
           a maintenance man         

1028
00:48:46,632 --> 00:48:48,300
         at Parkland Hospital,       

1029
00:48:48,342 --> 00:48:51,136
 trying to get to the men's room, 
         passing by the ER,         

1030
00:48:51,178 --> 00:48:52,888
          found the stretchers       
           blocking the way,         

1031
00:48:52,930 --> 00:48:55,015
               bent down,            
          moved the stretcher,       

1032
00:48:55,057 --> 00:48:56,767
        and there was a bullet.      

1033
00:48:56,808 --> 00:48:58,143
     How did that bullet get there? 

1034
00:48:58,185 --> 00:48:59,853
       Humes and Boswell came up     

1035
00:48:59,895 --> 00:49:02,147
           with this totally         
           absurd conclusion         

1036
00:49:02,189 --> 00:49:04,191
    that when the President lay     

1037
00:49:04,232 --> 00:49:07,277
         on the stretcher,          
          supine position,          

1038
00:49:07,319 --> 00:49:09,237
            and pressure            
      was applied to his chest      

1039
00:49:09,279 --> 00:49:11,657
        for cardiopulmonary         
           resuscitation,           

1040
00:49:11,698 --> 00:49:15,243
         that pressure, applied      
     anteriorly, forced the bullet, 

1041
00:49:15,285 --> 00:49:17,371
             which had gone          
        deeply into the tissues,     

1042
00:49:17,412 --> 00:49:19,039
 back out through like a tunnel.   

1043
00:49:19,081 --> 00:49:21,333
     In and out, a car in reverse.   

1044
00:49:21,375 --> 00:49:24,211
             And what's             
     very important to note is      

1045
00:49:24,252 --> 00:49:26,838
          bullets don't go          
       in and out like that.        

1046
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,509
    The bullet becomes encased.     
   But that was their conclusion.   

1047
00:49:30,550 --> 00:49:34,012
 Keep in mind, they did not know   
      that there was a bullet hole   

1048
00:49:34,054 --> 00:49:35,847
          in the front of           
       the President's neck.        

1049
00:49:35,889 --> 00:49:38,225
             Commander.             
        Now, Captain Humes,         

1050
00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:40,352
         how many autopsies         
        have you performed?         

1051
00:49:40,394 --> 00:49:42,354
    [Humes]   Approximately 1,000.    

1052
00:49:42,396 --> 00:49:47,025
 It wasn't until the next morning 
        when Humes decided,         

1053
00:49:47,067 --> 00:49:48,443
   "Hey, maybe we outta talk with   

1054
00:49:48,485 --> 00:49:50,904
              the surgeons           
         at Parkland Hospital."      

1055
00:49:50,946 --> 00:49:53,740
         Earlier that day, the       
      doctors at Parkland Hospital   

1056
00:49:53,782 --> 00:49:55,575
     had determined that the bullet 

1057
00:49:55,617 --> 00:49:57,494
            had fortuitously         
      ripped through the trachea.    

1058
00:49:57,536 --> 00:50:00,539
            So they enlarged         
           that bullet hole.         

1059
00:50:00,580 --> 00:50:02,791
         And now they learned,       
          for the first time,        

1060
00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:04,835
   that there was a tracheostomy    

1061
00:50:04,876 --> 00:50:07,087
            superimposed            
        upon a bullet wound.        

1062
00:50:07,129 --> 00:50:09,881
     "Aha!" said Humes and Boswell. 

1063
00:50:09,923 --> 00:50:11,383
           "Now we know!"           

1064
00:50:11,425 --> 00:50:14,136
     The shot fired from the rear,   
           entered the back,         

1065
00:50:14,177 --> 00:50:16,596
           moving around            
       2,000 feet per second,       

1066
00:50:16,638 --> 00:50:19,474
         comes out, then stops,      
 sees the starched white collar,   

1067
00:50:19,516 --> 00:50:22,060
 gets frightened to death, plops   
 into the front of his clothing.   

1068
00:50:22,102 --> 00:50:23,729
            And that's where         
         the bullet came from,       

1069
00:50:23,770 --> 00:50:25,731
           found by Tomlinson        
           on the stretcher.         

1070
00:50:25,772 --> 00:50:27,274
     Four or five months later,     

1071
00:50:27,315 --> 00:50:29,860
         under Arlen Specter's       
         single-bullet theory,       

1072
00:50:29,901 --> 00:50:32,571
              that bullet            
         has been rejuvenated,       
         it's been revitalized.      

1073
00:50:32,612 --> 00:50:33,947
            That bullet has          
            now gone through         

1074
00:50:33,989 --> 00:50:35,741
       Kennedy, through Connally,    

1075
00:50:35,782 --> 00:50:39,953
   and now, as of April of 1964,    
       the Stretcher Bullet,        

1076
00:50:39,995 --> 00:50:41,830
        Commission Exhibit #399,     

1077
00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:43,582
            the hero of the          
       Warren Commission report,     

1078
00:50:43,623 --> 00:50:46,668
              is now from            
         Connally's left thigh.      

1079
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:48,879
       How is that possible?        

1080
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,881
           It's unbelievable!        

1081
00:50:50,922 --> 00:50:53,759
 ...which is scientific evidence   

1082
00:50:53,800 --> 00:51:00,265
      that the wound was made       
 from behind and passed forward.   

1083
00:51:00,307 --> 00:51:03,852
   [Aguilar]   Dr. Humes destroyed    
      his original autopsy notes.    

1084
00:51:03,894 --> 00:51:05,729
          Now, Dr. Humes,           
   the chief autopsy pathologist,   

1085
00:51:05,771 --> 00:51:07,689
          and what we all know       
              as doctors,            

1086
00:51:07,731 --> 00:51:09,608
           notes taken while         
         you're doing something      

1087
00:51:09,649 --> 00:51:11,109
        are much more important,     

1088
00:51:11,151 --> 00:51:12,944
           and are likely           
     to be closer to the truth      

1089
00:51:12,986 --> 00:51:15,530
   than anything you write later.   

1090
00:51:15,572 --> 00:51:18,075
          And he admitted that       
     he'd destroyed autopsy notes.   

1091
00:51:18,116 --> 00:51:20,118
           You destroyed            
        your original notes         

1092
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,787
    in a medical legal autopsy?     

1093
00:51:21,828 --> 00:51:25,290
      And remember, that night      
       Oswald is still alive.       

1094
00:51:25,332 --> 00:51:26,792
              You're going           
          to be asked, doctor,       

1095
00:51:26,833 --> 00:51:31,505
 at some point in time under oath 
      to give sworn testimony.      

1096
00:51:31,546 --> 00:51:33,757
            Why did you             
    destroy those notes, doctor?    

1097
00:51:33,799 --> 00:51:36,760
       Doesn't a pathologist        
          keep his notes?           

1098
00:51:36,802 --> 00:51:39,471
        And he said, "Well,         
 I destroyed my own autopsy notes 

1099
00:51:39,513 --> 00:51:41,890
   "because they were splattered    
     with the President's blood     

1100
00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:44,768
 and I didn't want them to become 
   objects of morbid curiosity."    

1101
00:51:44,810 --> 00:51:46,311
      The third doctor, Dr. Finck,   

1102
00:51:46,353 --> 00:51:48,271
             who was there,          
         also wrote some notes       

1103
00:51:48,313 --> 00:51:49,856
             and complained          
        bitterly about the fact      

1104
00:51:49,898 --> 00:51:51,441
 that his notes disappeared too.   

1105
00:51:51,483 --> 00:51:53,568
          He was so upset           
     because he had to go home      

1106
00:51:53,610 --> 00:51:56,029
          and reconstruct           
   all of his notes from memory.    

1107
00:51:58,031 --> 00:51:59,950
           The two FBI agents        
            at the autopsy,          

1108
00:51:59,991 --> 00:52:02,619
 Frank O'Neill and James Sibert,   

1109
00:52:02,661 --> 00:52:05,580
     they reported what they heard   
          during the autopsy,        

1110
00:52:05,622 --> 00:52:08,333
          what they heard           
       the pathologists say,        

1111
00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:10,418
      specifically Dr. Humes.       

1112
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:15,006
         They were interviewed       
 by Arlen Specter in early 1964.   

1113
00:52:15,048 --> 00:52:19,177
       He proceeded to write        
     very unfavorable comments      

1114
00:52:19,219 --> 00:52:21,930
    about them in a summary memo    
          for the record.           

1115
00:52:21,972 --> 00:52:23,348
      We know with confidence       

1116
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:25,225
         why he didn't like         
       what they had to say,        

1117
00:52:25,267 --> 00:52:27,352
         because they were          
         providing evidence         

1118
00:52:27,394 --> 00:52:29,521
   that the single-bullet theory    
         could not be true.         

1119
00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:31,857
             [Goldberg]             
       Neither Sibert nor O'Neill    

1120
00:52:31,898 --> 00:52:34,568
         were asked to testify       
       for the Warren Commission,    

1121
00:52:34,609 --> 00:52:37,154
        and their written notes      
           became classified.        

1122
00:52:37,195 --> 00:52:39,698
                In 1997,             
      their depositions were taken   

1123
00:52:39,739 --> 00:52:42,826
          by the Assassination       
         Records Review Board.       

1124
00:52:42,868 --> 00:52:45,078
          [Douglas Horne]           
        Both Sibert and O'Neill      

1125
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,290
       were shown the photographs    
       of the back of JFK's head,    

1126
00:52:48,331 --> 00:52:51,501
      the autopsy photographs that   
      are the most controversial.    

1127
00:52:51,543 --> 00:52:53,128
         And they both said         
          that they didn't          

1128
00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:55,172
       see anything like that       
          at the autopsy.           

1129
00:52:55,213 --> 00:52:57,465
      O'Neill had said, "It looks    
        like it's been doctored.     

1130
00:52:57,507 --> 00:52:59,009
        "I don't mean the photo      
           has been doctored.        

1131
00:52:59,050 --> 00:53:01,052
         It looks like the head      
      has been put back together,"   

1132
00:53:01,094 --> 00:53:02,637
         you know, by embalmers      
        and then photographed."      

1133
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:04,222
             That was what           
          he said under oath.        

1134
00:53:04,264 --> 00:53:06,558
        Sibert did not remember      

1135
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,352
   drawing a diagram of the wound   
      for the House committee.      

1136
00:53:09,394 --> 00:53:11,479
        So he drew a new one        
       for the Review Board.        

1137
00:53:11,521 --> 00:53:13,523
          And it's one of our        
     most important wound diagrams. 

1138
00:53:13,565 --> 00:53:15,984
           And it shows what         
      could only be an exit defect   

1139
00:53:16,026 --> 00:53:17,402
 in the right rear of the skull.   

1140
00:53:24,409 --> 00:53:26,745
   [Goldberg]   This new evidence,    
             combined with           

1141
00:53:26,786 --> 00:53:29,915
           the Review Board's        
            declassification         
            of 40 witnesses          

1142
00:53:29,956 --> 00:53:32,751
       who saw a hole in the back    
           of Kennedy's head,        

1143
00:53:32,792 --> 00:53:37,214
     constitutes powerful evidence   
       of a shot from the front.     

1144
00:53:38,131 --> 00:53:39,591
             (gunshot)              

1145
00:53:42,427 --> 00:53:44,137
              Who was               
     the autopsy photographer?      

1146
00:53:44,179 --> 00:53:46,514
           John Stringer.           

1147
00:53:46,556 --> 00:53:49,100
        He was a Navy civilian.      
        He was widely respected.     

1148
00:53:49,142 --> 00:53:50,310
       He had written a textbook     

1149
00:53:50,352 --> 00:53:52,229
         on medical photography      
             for the Navy.           

1150
00:53:52,270 --> 00:53:53,688
               So he was             
      the photographer of record.    

1151
00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:55,941
            He photographed          
           the autopsy itself        

1152
00:53:55,982 --> 00:53:59,486
       and also photographed        
       the President's brain.       

1153
00:53:59,527 --> 00:54:01,696
     [Stone]   The autopsy photos     
        of the President's brain     

1154
00:54:01,738 --> 00:54:03,949
               are housed            
       at the National Archives.     

1155
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:07,035
     These photos cannot be scanned 
             or reproduced,          

1156
00:54:07,077 --> 00:54:09,955
         but are only available      
          to be viewed on site       

1157
00:54:09,996 --> 00:54:13,792
       by researchers authorized     
         by the Kennedy family.      

1158
00:54:13,833 --> 00:54:15,794
          [Horne]   Half of           
       the brain photos are taken    

1159
00:54:15,835 --> 00:54:18,421
         of a brain from above,      
            superior views,          

1160
00:54:18,463 --> 00:54:21,758
      which is what Stringer said    
     he shot of the complete organ. 

1161
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,386
 But the other half of the brain   
       photos in the archives       

1162
00:54:24,427 --> 00:54:27,806
      are taken of the bottom,      
       called basilar views.        

1163
00:54:27,847 --> 00:54:30,767
       Now, we were very careful     
        to question Mr. Stringer     

1164
00:54:30,809 --> 00:54:32,811
       about all the photographs     
                he took,             

1165
00:54:32,852 --> 00:54:35,939
   and ask him what kind of film    
    he used for black and white,    

1166
00:54:35,981 --> 00:54:37,607
         what kind of film          
         he used for color.         

1167
00:54:37,649 --> 00:54:39,526
      Jeremy Gunn showed Stringer    

1168
00:54:39,567 --> 00:54:43,530
           the color positive        
      transparencies of the brain,   

1169
00:54:43,571 --> 00:54:45,115
 and Stringer immediately noted,   

1170
00:54:45,156 --> 00:54:47,701
       "Well, these aren't Kodak.    
         These might be Ansco."      

1171
00:54:47,742 --> 00:54:50,245
   He said, "I don't see the name   
    of the manufacturer on here,    

1172
00:54:50,287 --> 00:54:53,164
        but these don't have the     
     right notches in the corner."   

1173
00:54:53,206 --> 00:54:54,916
          So Jeremy Gunn said,       

1174
00:54:54,958 --> 00:54:57,043
         "Did you use this film      
       with these notches in it?"    

1175
00:54:57,085 --> 00:54:58,753
          Stringer said, "No."       

1176
00:54:58,795 --> 00:55:00,880
      "Did you take basilar views    
       when you shot the brain?"     

1177
00:55:00,922 --> 00:55:03,591
            And he says,            
      "Not as far as I know."       

1178
00:55:03,633 --> 00:55:06,136
         [Goldberg]   Doesn't         
     this all lead to the question   

1179
00:55:06,177 --> 00:55:09,806
     if Stringer did not take these 
       photographs,     then who did?   

1180
00:55:11,683 --> 00:55:14,853
             Robert Knudsen          
        was a Navy photographer      

1181
00:55:14,894 --> 00:55:17,981
            who was detailed         
      to the White House in 1958.    

1182
00:55:18,023 --> 00:55:21,192
     If you read his obituaries in   
         The New York Times         

1183
00:55:21,234 --> 00:55:22,485
        and    The Washington Post,    

1184
00:55:22,527 --> 00:55:24,779
              you will see           
          that he is credited        

1185
00:55:24,821 --> 00:55:27,365
           with photographing        
           Kennedy's autopsy,        

1186
00:55:27,407 --> 00:55:30,785
     except officially he was not.   

1187
00:55:30,827 --> 00:55:34,956
       [Horne]   Robert Knudsen       
         was not interviewed by      
         the Warren Commission.      

1188
00:55:34,998 --> 00:55:39,002
       So they finally found        
      Robert Knudsen in 1978.       

1189
00:55:39,044 --> 00:55:41,171
         And to its credit,         
     the House Select Committee     

1190
00:55:41,212 --> 00:55:42,756
        did a deposition of him.     

1191
00:55:42,797 --> 00:55:45,383
          To their discredit,        
        they never published it.     

1192
00:55:45,425 --> 00:55:49,763
    They buried it for 50 years     
    and it got released in 1993.    

1193
00:55:49,804 --> 00:55:51,639
   And I know why they buried it,   

1194
00:55:51,681 --> 00:55:54,559
 because everything he told them   
     about autopsy photography      

1195
00:55:54,601 --> 00:55:56,144
           contradicted what         
         they thought they knew      

1196
00:55:56,186 --> 00:55:57,520
        in the official record.      

1197
00:55:57,562 --> 00:56:00,273
           [Mantik]   After           
           his death in 1989,        

1198
00:56:00,315 --> 00:56:01,983
      his wife was interviewed by    

1199
00:56:02,025 --> 00:56:04,402
           the Assassination         
         Records Review Board.       

1200
00:56:16,456 --> 00:56:19,709
 He told her that one photograph   
           in particular,           

1201
00:56:19,751 --> 00:56:21,252
               presumably            
         the back of the head,       

1202
00:56:21,294 --> 00:56:23,755
       had been severely altered.    

1203
00:56:23,797 --> 00:56:25,757
           [Jeremy Gunn]            
      Where was the wound covered?   

1204
00:56:31,304 --> 00:56:34,015
    [Jeremy Gunn]   In one sense,     
       uh, probably worth saying     

1205
00:56:34,057 --> 00:56:35,600
        that what you're saying      
           is very different         

1206
00:56:35,642 --> 00:56:37,727
               from what             
      the United States government   

1207
00:56:37,769 --> 00:56:39,979
       has said for a long time.     

1208
00:56:40,021 --> 00:56:43,566
         And why didn't he say       
         something to somebody?      

1209
00:57:04,587 --> 00:57:06,423
              [Horne]               
         John Stringer is still      

1210
00:57:06,464 --> 00:57:08,049
              the autopsy            
        photographer of record,      

1211
00:57:08,091 --> 00:57:09,843
 I think they both took pictures   
         and I personally think      

1212
00:57:09,884 --> 00:57:12,679
              that many of           
        John Stringer's pictures     

1213
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,514
             never made it           
     into the official collection.   

1214
00:57:14,556 --> 00:57:15,807
       And a lot of the ones        
          we're looking at          

1215
00:57:15,849 --> 00:57:17,642
     are Robert Knudsen's pictures. 

1216
00:57:21,187 --> 00:57:24,482
 [Mantik]   Saundra Spencer worked   
       at the Anacostia Facility,    

1217
00:57:24,524 --> 00:57:26,568
      a Naval Photographic Center,   

1218
00:57:26,609 --> 00:57:28,987
      which was quite separate      
       from the Bethesda lab.       

1219
00:57:29,028 --> 00:57:32,323
             That weekend,           
           she received film.        

1220
00:57:32,365 --> 00:57:34,993
      [Horne]   The photographs       
 that Saundra Spencer developed,   

1221
00:57:35,034 --> 00:57:37,162
          which never made it        
       into the official record.     

1222
00:57:37,203 --> 00:57:39,831
       The only evidence we have     
       of them is her testimony.     

1223
00:57:41,666 --> 00:57:43,835
            Saundra Spencer          
           was visibly upset         

1224
00:57:43,877 --> 00:57:46,337
         when she looked at the      
      official     autopsy photographs 

1225
00:57:46,379 --> 00:57:49,924
         because she said,          
       "I developed pictures        
       of him and his family        

1226
00:57:49,966 --> 00:57:52,677
       for almost three years       
 and he never looked like this."   

1227
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:54,929
    She said, "He looks terrible    
       in these photographs."       

1228
00:57:59,434 --> 00:58:01,978
          -She started to cry.       
        -[Stone]   In front of        
           the Review Board?         

1229
00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:04,355
 [Horne]   Yes, she started to cry   
        in front of Jeremy and I     

1230
00:58:04,397 --> 00:58:06,232
           and the person           
         from the archives,         

1231
00:58:06,274 --> 00:58:08,776
             and she said,           
       "He did not look this bad     

1232
00:58:08,818 --> 00:58:10,862
           in the photographs        
        I developed on Sunday."      

1233
00:58:10,904 --> 00:58:13,948
        He was very cleaned up.      
        It was very respectful.      

1234
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:16,034
     And in one of the photographs   
             she developed,          

1235
00:58:16,075 --> 00:58:17,827
         there was a brain,         
          an intact brain,          

1236
00:58:17,869 --> 00:58:19,621
     sitting next to the body,      

1237
00:58:19,662 --> 00:58:21,080
 the nude body of the President.   

1238
00:58:21,122 --> 00:58:22,874
       Strange, first of all,       
          that it's intact          

1239
00:58:22,916 --> 00:58:26,252
 because FBI agent Frank O'Neill   
       told the Review Board        

1240
00:58:26,294 --> 00:58:29,088
     that over half of the mass     
     of the brain was missing.      

1241
00:58:31,925 --> 00:58:34,469
   [Mantik]   So the brain autopsy    
             or autopsies,           

1242
00:58:34,511 --> 00:58:37,055
        there were probably         
          two such events,          

1243
00:58:37,096 --> 00:58:41,851
      uh, occurred later and        
 were not done on November 22nd.   

1244
00:58:41,893 --> 00:58:43,603
         [Aguilar]   Anybody          
     that's seen the Zapruder film   

1245
00:58:43,645 --> 00:58:44,979
           can see Kennedy's         
             head explodes           

1246
00:58:45,021 --> 00:58:46,523
          and debris flies          
        all over the place.         

1247
00:58:46,564 --> 00:58:47,857
       Jackie Kennedy climbed out    

1248
00:58:47,899 --> 00:58:49,609
             onto the trunk          
           of the limousine,         

1249
00:58:49,651 --> 00:58:52,779
             picked up              
     a chunk of the President's     
      brain, had it with her,       

1250
00:58:52,820 --> 00:58:54,531
   took it in and gave it to, uh,   

1251
00:58:54,572 --> 00:58:56,574
         one of the doctors         
       at Parkland Hospital.        

1252
00:58:56,616 --> 00:58:58,868
      When you look at the autopsy   
       photographs of the brain,     

1253
00:58:58,910 --> 00:59:00,245
            which I've seen          
           the originals of,         

1254
00:59:00,286 --> 00:59:02,205
            you can just see         
      that the brain is disrupted,   

1255
00:59:02,247 --> 00:59:04,207
            but very little          
       of the tissue is missing.     

1256
00:59:04,249 --> 00:59:07,043
    Then we look at the autopsy     
        report of the brain,        

1257
00:59:07,085 --> 00:59:09,170
         what they call the         
 supplemental brain examination.   

1258
00:59:09,212 --> 00:59:10,755
         The brain in evidence       
          that's weighed there       

1259
00:59:10,797 --> 00:59:12,840
          weighs 1,500 grams.        

1260
00:59:12,882 --> 00:59:16,261
          1500 grams is--           
      is above average weight       

1261
00:59:16,302 --> 00:59:17,845
      of an adult male brain.       

1262
00:59:17,887 --> 00:59:20,932
        There was one report        
         of 8,000 autopsies         

1263
00:59:20,974 --> 00:59:23,643
     and the average weight of      
        an adult male brain         

1264
00:59:23,685 --> 00:59:25,770
          was 1,336 grams.          

1265
00:59:25,812 --> 00:59:29,524
         So they're saying          
   that President Kennedy's brain   

1266
00:59:29,566 --> 00:59:31,150
           was well above           
        the average weight.         

1267
00:59:31,192 --> 00:59:33,194
 Where did all that brain tissue   
           disappear to?            

1268
00:59:33,236 --> 00:59:36,990
   That flies around Dealey Plaza   
    that Jackie has in her hand,    

1269
00:59:37,031 --> 00:59:38,700
   that everybody is picking off    
         of their clothes?          

1270
00:59:41,536 --> 00:59:44,289
             [Chesser]              
       There are two photographs     
     of the brain     at the archives. 

1271
00:59:44,330 --> 00:59:46,749
        I viewed those in 2015.      

1272
00:59:46,791 --> 00:59:49,127
         The brain looked to me      
            to be distorted.         

1273
00:59:49,168 --> 00:59:50,962
        My first thought was        
 that the brain had been sitting   

1274
00:59:51,004 --> 00:59:53,006
      in a jar of formaldehyde      
          for a long time.          

1275
00:59:53,047 --> 00:59:56,134
          The Review Board          
         had a consultant.          

1276
00:59:56,175 --> 00:59:59,012
               A renowned            
         forensic pathologist.       

1277
00:59:59,053 --> 01:00:01,723
       He looked at the brain       
      photographs and he said,      

1278
01:00:01,764 --> 01:00:04,475
          "This is a very           
         well-fixed brain.          

1279
01:00:04,517 --> 01:00:07,270
           It's all gray.           
       It's not pink at all.        

1280
01:00:07,312 --> 01:00:10,481
      "It's been fixed for two      
 or three weeks in formaldehyde.   

1281
01:00:10,523 --> 01:00:11,858
          It's been fixed           
        at least two weeks,         

1282
01:00:11,899 --> 01:00:13,359
   maybe as long as three weeks."   

1283
01:00:13,401 --> 01:00:15,778
        I looked at Jeremy Gunn      
          and he looked at me        

1284
01:00:15,820 --> 01:00:17,071
         and the hair stood up       
        on the back of my neck,      

1285
01:00:17,113 --> 01:00:21,618
 because I knew that JFK's brain   
          was examined...           

1286
01:00:21,659 --> 01:00:23,995
        less than three days        
        after he was killed.        

1287
01:00:24,037 --> 01:00:25,747
        One can only imagine        
          that they wanted          

1288
01:00:25,788 --> 01:00:27,624
   the-- the damage to the brain    

1289
01:00:27,665 --> 01:00:29,751
          to be consistent          
        with the hypothesis         

1290
01:00:29,792 --> 01:00:32,128
            that Oswald             
       had done the shooting.       

1291
01:00:32,170 --> 01:00:34,631
       So if you had a defect       
         going all the way          
      to the back of the head,      

1292
01:00:34,672 --> 01:00:36,924
       like so many witnesses       
          testified to it,          

1293
01:00:36,966 --> 01:00:41,346
      it might raise questions      
   about whether that huge defect   

1294
01:00:41,387 --> 01:00:44,057
     could've cau-- been caused     
    by a single shot to the head    

1295
01:00:44,098 --> 01:00:46,601
       as Oswald is supposed        
           to have done.            

1296
01:00:46,643 --> 01:00:47,852
             [Chesser]              
        At a teaching hospital,      

1297
01:00:47,894 --> 01:00:50,772
               there was             
         no shortage of brains.      

1298
01:00:50,813 --> 01:00:52,106
   Autopsies were very frequent.    

1299
01:00:52,148 --> 01:00:53,691
 Frequently, the brain was saved   

1300
01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:56,194
   for teaching medical students,   

1301
01:00:56,235 --> 01:00:57,862
            so it would not          
          have been difficult        

1302
01:00:57,904 --> 01:01:00,365
            to find a brain          
            for replacement.         

1303
01:01:00,406 --> 01:01:01,783
    This is just one more reason    

1304
01:01:01,824 --> 01:01:04,452
         why this cannot be         
     President Kennedy's brain      

1305
01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:08,373
      in the photographs that       
 we have stored at the archives.   

1306
01:01:08,414 --> 01:01:14,045
 What we have here... is evidence 
   that impugns the authenticity    

1307
01:01:14,087 --> 01:01:16,714
      of the brain photographs      
     in the National Archives.      

1308
01:01:16,756 --> 01:01:18,508
    If there was a trial today,     

1309
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:21,719
   these brain photographs would    
   not be admissible as evidence.   

1310
01:01:23,721 --> 01:01:25,723
           I'd hate to be           
        in your shoes today.        

1311
01:01:26,724 --> 01:01:27,767
   You have a lot to think about.   

1312
01:01:27,809 --> 01:01:29,060
            You've seen             
        much hidden evidence        

1313
01:01:29,102 --> 01:01:30,937
        the American public         
          has never seen.           

1314
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,900
        You know, going back        
     to when we were children,      

1315
01:01:35,942 --> 01:01:37,944
      I think that most of us       
     in this courtroom thought      

1316
01:01:37,985 --> 01:01:40,697
         that justice came          
     into being automatically.      

1317
01:01:41,698 --> 01:01:43,199
 That virtue was its own reward,   

1318
01:01:43,241 --> 01:01:45,284
          that-- that good          
      would triumph over evil.      

1319
01:01:46,994 --> 01:01:50,790
        But as we get older,        
   we know this just isn't true.    

1320
01:01:50,832 --> 01:01:53,501
      Individual human beings       
       have to create justice       

1321
01:01:53,543 --> 01:01:54,752
       and this is not easy,        

1322
01:01:56,295 --> 01:01:59,757
         because the truth          
   often poses a threat to power,   

1323
01:01:59,799 --> 01:02:03,886
 and one often has to fight power 
    at great risk to themselves.    

1324
01:02:03,928 --> 01:02:05,430
             [Goldberg]             
       The one physician present     

1325
01:02:05,471 --> 01:02:08,599
       at both Parkland Hospital     
        and the Bethesda morgue      

1326
01:02:08,641 --> 01:02:09,934
          was George Burkley,        

1327
01:02:09,976 --> 01:02:12,603
       Kennedy's personal doctor.    

1328
01:02:12,645 --> 01:02:15,940
      Arlen Specter did not depose   
            George Burkley,          

1329
01:02:15,982 --> 01:02:20,027
      but Burkley did an interview   
     with the JFK Library in 1967,   

1330
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:22,447
      and was asked this question.   

1331
01:02:22,488 --> 01:02:23,781
       [interviewer speaking]       

1332
01:02:31,456 --> 01:02:32,790
        [interviewer] I see.        

1333
01:02:32,832 --> 01:02:35,168
        [Miller]   The reason         
      he didn't say anything was,    

1334
01:02:35,209 --> 01:02:38,671
     he was intimately involved     
          in the coverup.           

1335
01:02:38,713 --> 01:02:41,340
     [Goldberg]   Burkley signed      
     the autopsy descriptive sheet   

1336
01:02:41,382 --> 01:02:45,386
       with a bullet in the back     
          at the level of T3.        

1337
01:02:45,428 --> 01:02:47,972
           And he also signed        
      Kennedy's death certificate,   

1338
01:02:48,014 --> 01:02:50,683
           which also placed         
        that wound in the back.      

1339
01:02:50,725 --> 01:02:52,685
         That death certificate      
               is not in             

1340
01:02:52,727 --> 01:02:55,146
     the Warren Commission volumes, 

1341
01:02:55,188 --> 01:02:58,357
       and the descriptive sheet     
       in the Commission volumes     

1342
01:02:58,399 --> 01:03:00,651
             does not have           
          Burkley's signature.       

1343
01:03:02,111 --> 01:03:04,155
      In 1977, through his lawyer,   

1344
01:03:04,197 --> 01:03:06,491
           he wrote a letter         
          to Richard Sprague,        

1345
01:03:06,532 --> 01:03:08,159
       Chief Counsel of the House    

1346
01:03:08,201 --> 01:03:10,787
            Select Committee         
           on Assassinations.        

1347
01:03:10,828 --> 01:03:13,164
             He said he had          
         information indicating      

1348
01:03:13,206 --> 01:03:15,416
       that others besides Oswald    

1349
01:03:15,458 --> 01:03:18,461
          must've     participated      
         in the assassination.       

1350
01:03:18,503 --> 01:03:22,006
             He was willing          
     to talk about it at this time. 

1351
01:03:22,048 --> 01:03:24,342
                Sprague,             
      who made clear his intention   

1352
01:03:24,383 --> 01:03:27,011
          to fully investigate       
         the CIA's involvement,      

1353
01:03:27,053 --> 01:03:29,096
 was forced out two weeks later.   

1354
01:03:29,138 --> 01:03:30,973
              Dr. Burkley            
     submitted a written statement   

1355
01:03:31,015 --> 01:03:33,184
     to the House Select Committee, 

1356
01:03:33,226 --> 01:03:35,061
 but there is no official record   

1357
01:03:35,102 --> 01:03:38,356
              of him     being          
         deposed as a witness.       

1358
01:03:38,397 --> 01:03:42,276
          In 1982, he told          
     JFK researcher Henry Hurt,     

1359
01:03:42,318 --> 01:03:43,736
           "I know there was         
         more than one gunman,"      

1360
01:03:43,778 --> 01:03:45,154
        and when Henry Hurt         

1361
01:03:45,196 --> 01:03:47,198
         tried to recontact         
     Burkley for more details,      

1362
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,616
              Burkley               
     cut him off at the knees.      

1363
01:03:48,658 --> 01:03:50,159
         "I don't want to talk       
           about it anymore."        

1364
01:03:50,201 --> 01:03:51,536
        The very next year,         
           Burkley talked           

1365
01:03:51,577 --> 01:03:54,247
         to Michael Kurtz,          
      another JFK researcher,       

1366
01:03:54,288 --> 01:03:55,832
 told him that he knew there was   

1367
01:03:55,873 --> 01:03:57,333
            a conspiracy            
       to kill the President        

1368
01:03:57,375 --> 01:03:58,876
          and that he recalled       
             an exit wound           

1369
01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:01,045
             in the back of          
       President Kennedy's head.     

1370
01:04:01,087 --> 01:04:02,922
            Now, that's             
   a very significant statement.    

1371
01:04:02,964 --> 01:04:05,007
 That the only doctor we know of   

1372
01:04:05,049 --> 01:04:07,885
           who was present at        
      both Parkland for treatment,   

1373
01:04:07,927 --> 01:04:09,554
            and at Bethesda          
          during the autopsy,        

1374
01:04:09,595 --> 01:04:11,848
     told Michael Kurtz in 1983     

1375
01:04:11,889 --> 01:04:14,225
     that Kennedy had an exit wound 
        in the back of his head.     

1376
01:04:14,267 --> 01:04:15,560
            When Kurtz tried         
         to recontact Burkley,       

1377
01:04:15,601 --> 01:04:18,062
          Burkley cut him off        
             at the knees.           

1378
01:04:18,104 --> 01:04:19,814
         "I don't want to talk       
          about this anymore."       

1379
01:04:19,856 --> 01:04:21,190
        Dr. Burkley was deceased     
              by the time            

1380
01:04:21,232 --> 01:04:23,067
 the Review Board was impaneled.   

1381
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:25,403
   So then Jeremy decided, well,    

1382
01:04:25,444 --> 01:04:28,656
             we can ask             
    the executor of his estate,     

1383
01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:30,533
     his daughter, to sign a waiver 

1384
01:04:30,575 --> 01:04:33,035
            so that we could         
           go to the law firm        

1385
01:04:33,077 --> 01:04:34,704
             that Mr. Illig          
           used to work for,         

1386
01:04:34,745 --> 01:04:35,913
     because he was deceased also,   

1387
01:04:35,955 --> 01:04:37,248
         and see if there were       

1388
01:04:37,290 --> 01:04:39,000
              any records            
        in the file of Mr. Illig     

1389
01:04:39,041 --> 01:04:41,085
            that would have          
          revealed what it was       

1390
01:04:41,127 --> 01:04:43,129
           he wanted to tell         
          the HSCA in detail,        

1391
01:04:43,170 --> 01:04:45,089
 and she said she would do that.   

1392
01:04:45,131 --> 01:04:46,507
            And then Jeremy          
        called her on the phone,     

1393
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:48,843
           she had completely        
            changed her mind         

1394
01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:50,177
             and adamantly           
           refused to sign it        

1395
01:04:50,219 --> 01:04:52,388
     and terminated the phone call. 

1396
01:04:57,852 --> 01:04:59,854
 The face sheet for the autopsy,   

1397
01:04:59,896 --> 01:05:02,773
      where it shows the front      
 and back silhouette of the body, 

1398
01:05:02,815 --> 01:05:05,818
          where you mark scars       
     and bullet wounds and things,   

1399
01:05:05,860 --> 01:05:08,279
           the face sheet           
      showed the bullet wound       

1400
01:05:08,321 --> 01:05:13,284
        in the back at the level     
        of thoracic vertebra T3,     

1401
01:05:13,326 --> 01:05:16,287
        which is five and a half     
          to six inches below.       

1402
01:05:16,329 --> 01:05:18,247
             [Goldberg]             
      That location coincided with   

1403
01:05:18,289 --> 01:05:21,792
        what Sibert and O'Neill      
         wrote in their report.      

1404
01:05:21,834 --> 01:05:25,421
     And in order to make the facts 
     fit the single-bullet theory,   

1405
01:05:25,463 --> 01:05:27,548
               one bullet            
         doing all this damage,      

1406
01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:31,302
       the doctors needed an exit    
       point for the back wound.     

1407
01:05:31,344 --> 01:05:34,764
      The Warren Commission raised   
         the wound in the back       

1408
01:05:34,805 --> 01:05:37,934
         so that it would align      
      with the alleged exit wound    

1409
01:05:37,975 --> 01:05:39,936
 in the front of Kennedy's neck.   

1410
01:05:39,977 --> 01:05:41,604
        Commissioner Gerald Ford     

1411
01:05:41,646 --> 01:05:44,106
            did this simply          
        via the stroke of a pen,     

1412
01:05:44,148 --> 01:05:46,692
        changing the description     
            in their report          

1413
01:05:46,734 --> 01:05:49,612
 from back, to back of the neck.   

1414
01:05:49,654 --> 01:05:51,781
            As I recall,            
    they said about Gerald Ford     

1415
01:05:51,822 --> 01:05:54,408
     that he could not chew gum     
     and walk at the same time.     

1416
01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:57,244
      Now, all of a sudden, he      
 becomes a forensic pathologist,   

1417
01:05:57,286 --> 01:05:59,956
      and a photographer, and       
   a criminalist, and an expert,    

1418
01:05:59,997 --> 01:06:02,708
            and he knows            
     where the bullet hole was      
        and he moved it up.         

1419
01:06:02,750 --> 01:06:04,877
             [Goldberg]             
           But then in 1979,         

1420
01:06:04,919 --> 01:06:08,297
       the House Select Committee    
       moved it lower in the back    

1421
01:06:08,339 --> 01:06:10,967
       because they had pictures     
           from the autopsy.         

1422
01:06:11,008 --> 01:06:12,760
        It is conceivable that,      
              at the time,           

1423
01:06:12,802 --> 01:06:14,720
     the Warren Commission thought   

1424
01:06:14,762 --> 01:06:18,140
           no one would ever         
        see the autopsy photos.      

1425
01:06:18,182 --> 01:06:20,351
         When the Review Board       
              declassified           

1426
01:06:20,393 --> 01:06:22,478
          the notation showing       
          what Ford had done,        

1427
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,356
 the former commissioner replied   
       that it had nothing to do     

1428
01:06:25,398 --> 01:06:27,650
       with a conspiracy theory.     

1429
01:06:27,692 --> 01:06:30,695
           He was only trying        
          to be more precise.        

1430
01:06:30,736 --> 01:06:34,323
     This is directly contradicted   
       by a conversation Ford had    

1431
01:06:34,365 --> 01:06:38,494
         with French President       
       Valéry Giscard d'Estaing.     

1432
01:06:38,536 --> 01:06:40,121
             Ford told him           
           the assassination         

1433
01:06:40,162 --> 01:06:42,873
            was     not the work        
             of one person.          

1434
01:06:42,915 --> 01:06:45,042
        It was something set up.     

1435
01:06:45,084 --> 01:06:47,294
      "We were sure it was set up,   

1436
01:06:47,336 --> 01:06:50,297
          but we were not able       
         to discover by whom."       

1437
01:06:52,758 --> 01:06:54,135
              [Stone]               
         With all the documents      

1438
01:06:54,176 --> 01:06:56,262
              declassified           
          by the Review Board,       

1439
01:06:56,303 --> 01:06:59,265
               we can see            
       this scene in a new light.    

1440
01:06:59,306 --> 01:07:02,393
               In regards            
       to the JFK assassination,     

1441
01:07:02,435 --> 01:07:06,230
          conspiracy theories        
       are now conspiracy facts.     

1442
01:07:07,314 --> 01:07:09,108
      The forensics show evidence    

1443
01:07:09,150 --> 01:07:10,693
          of multiple shooters       
              with Oswald,           

1444
01:07:10,735 --> 01:07:12,361
              not even at            
         the sixth floor window      

1445
01:07:12,403 --> 01:07:15,031
              at the time            
         of the assassination.       

1446
01:07:15,072 --> 01:07:20,494
     And his fingerprints not found 
     on the supposed murder weapon. 

1447
01:07:20,536 --> 01:07:24,248
       Still, there was no trial     
         for Lee Harvey Oswald.      

1448
01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:25,541
            These people            
      have given me a hearing       

1449
01:07:25,583 --> 01:07:27,752
    without legal representation    
            or anything.            

1450
01:07:27,793 --> 01:07:29,045
             [reporter]             
    Did you shoot the President?    

1451
01:07:29,086 --> 01:07:31,422
 I didn't shoot anybody, no, sir. 

1452
01:07:31,464 --> 01:07:35,384
     [Stone]   Attorney Mark Lane     
       tried to represent Oswald     
          in the proceedings,        

1453
01:07:35,426 --> 01:07:37,344
             but was denied          
       by the Warren Commission.     

1454
01:08:05,498 --> 01:08:08,334
        Did the accused man         
         get a fair trial?          

1455
01:08:08,375 --> 01:08:09,752
           I can tell you           
        from my experiences         

1456
01:08:09,794 --> 01:08:12,588
        having tried several        
     hundred cases to verdict,      

1457
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:14,799
       and being responsible        
       for thousands of cases       

1458
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,050
     as head of the criminal courts 

1459
01:08:16,092 --> 01:08:17,593
              and running            
          the homicide bureau,       

1460
01:08:17,635 --> 01:08:20,221
      that I don't believe there's   
        any courtroom in America     

1461
01:08:20,262 --> 01:08:22,056
              where Oswald           
        would've been convicted      

1462
01:08:22,098 --> 01:08:23,474
            on the evidence          
           that was presented        

1463
01:08:23,516 --> 01:08:25,726
     before the Warren Commission.   

1464
01:08:25,768 --> 01:08:29,438
     [Stone]   Instead of a jury      
        of 12 American citizens,     

1465
01:08:29,480 --> 01:08:32,191
          judgment was passed        
          by a panel of seven        

1466
01:08:32,233 --> 01:08:35,611
           appointed wise men        
         and career statesmen.       

1467
01:08:35,653 --> 01:08:40,032
         A judgment perpetuated      
       by the media at that time.    

1468
01:08:40,074 --> 01:08:42,576
             Looking at the          
        declassified documents,      

1469
01:08:42,618 --> 01:08:44,120
             we see there's          
           even more mystery         

1470
01:08:44,161 --> 01:08:47,206
       behind Oswald to uncover.     

1471
01:08:47,248 --> 01:08:51,043
             A man who was,          
       in his own words, a patsy.    

1472
01:08:51,085 --> 01:08:54,255
      Murdered on live television.   

1473
01:08:54,296 --> 01:08:57,633
            [reporter 1]            
      This was the dreary funeral    
         of Lee Harvey Oswald,       

1474
01:08:57,675 --> 01:09:01,387
            alleged murderer         
         of President Kennedy.       

1475
01:09:01,428 --> 01:09:03,848
             Burial was in           
        an otherwise empty plot      

1476
01:09:03,889 --> 01:09:07,017
         in Rose Hill Cemetery       
          outside Fort Worth.        

1477
01:09:07,059 --> 01:09:09,103
        A plot that we were told     
               was bought            

1478
01:09:09,145 --> 01:09:11,355
      long ago by Oswald's mother.   

1479
01:09:11,397 --> 01:09:14,275
           No one was on hand        
      for the funeral as mourners,   

1480
01:09:14,316 --> 01:09:17,778
           except the family         
            of the dead man.         

1481
01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:21,073
            [reporter 2]            
      Oswald spent his early years   
            in an orphanage.         

1482
01:09:21,115 --> 01:09:25,035
           At the age of 17,         
     he joined the US Marine Corps. 

1483
01:09:25,077 --> 01:09:26,787
       A year later, he was sent     

1484
01:09:26,829 --> 01:09:29,790
           to one of the most        
     secret US bases in the world,   

1485
01:09:29,832 --> 01:09:31,625
            Atsugi in Japan.         

1486
01:09:31,667 --> 01:09:34,086
               From here,            
      the CIA operated spy flights   

1487
01:09:34,128 --> 01:09:35,796
          over communist China       

1488
01:09:35,838 --> 01:09:38,257
               using U-2             
         reconnaissance planes.      

1489
01:09:40,092 --> 01:09:43,846
     [Goldberg]   During the 1975     
     Church Committee investigation 

1490
01:09:43,888 --> 01:09:46,348
     of US intelligence activities, 

1491
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:48,225
            Committee member         
           Richard Schweiker         

1492
01:09:48,267 --> 01:09:50,644
         remarked about Oswald,      

1493
01:09:50,686 --> 01:09:53,314
            that everywhere          
          you looked with him,       

1494
01:09:53,355 --> 01:09:56,901
         there are fingerprints      
            of intelligence.         

1495
01:09:56,942 --> 01:10:00,279
         [man]   Many people          
       said he was a forthright,     
          upstanding American        

1496
01:10:00,321 --> 01:10:01,864
           as a young person,        

1497
01:10:01,906 --> 01:10:05,409
 and yet they later depicted him   
        as a Castro-loving,         

1498
01:10:05,451 --> 01:10:08,621
             Cuban-loving,           
         Russian-loving person.      

1499
01:10:08,662 --> 01:10:10,289
         [Jefferson Morley]         
         In the spring of 1963,      

1500
01:10:10,331 --> 01:10:12,583
           Oswald started           
       handing out pamphlets        

1501
01:10:12,625 --> 01:10:14,752
         for the Fair Play          
        for Cuba Committee,         

1502
01:10:14,793 --> 01:10:17,588
        a pro-Castro, pro-Cuban      
            Revolution group         

1503
01:10:17,630 --> 01:10:20,382
            that was popular         
          on college campuses.       

1504
01:10:20,424 --> 01:10:23,802
         And some of them,          
   he stamped "544 Camp Street,"    

1505
01:10:23,844 --> 01:10:27,556
          which was an office        
      in downtown, uh, New Orleans   

1506
01:10:27,598 --> 01:10:30,017
               near where            
        the CIA's offices were,      

1507
01:10:30,059 --> 01:10:31,936
        right across the street,     
                in fact.             

1508
01:10:31,977 --> 01:10:35,022
     There was also the home of     
 the Cuban Revolutionary Council, 

1509
01:10:35,064 --> 01:10:37,775
               which was             
     the leading anti-Castro group. 

1510
01:10:37,816 --> 01:10:42,029
 Why would a pro-Castro activist   
          put his headquarters       

1511
01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:43,906
        in the same headquarters     

1512
01:10:43,948 --> 01:10:46,492
     as the leading anti-Castro     
       group in the country?        

1513
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,120
    'Cause he was a provocateur.    

1514
01:10:50,162 --> 01:10:52,706
      This gets back to being       
    an agent or a double agent,     

1515
01:10:52,748 --> 01:10:54,750
   because he played both roles.    

1516
01:10:54,792 --> 01:10:58,796
            Here was Oswald          
       who had two associations.     

1517
01:10:58,837 --> 01:11:00,965
          One, he has a group        
         of anti-Castro Cubans.      

1518
01:11:01,006 --> 01:11:03,300
         At the same time,          
    he was handing out leaflets     

1519
01:11:03,342 --> 01:11:04,468
           for the Fair Play         
          for Cuba committee,        

1520
01:11:04,510 --> 01:11:06,470
        uh, with the other side      
             of the fence.           

1521
01:11:06,512 --> 01:11:09,473
     So the two groups that had     
        the most motivation         

1522
01:11:09,515 --> 01:11:12,643
   to assassinate the President,    
        he was dealing with.        

1523
01:11:13,852 --> 01:11:15,896
             [Goldberg]             
         And not surprisingly,       

1524
01:11:15,938 --> 01:11:19,316
       many of these groups were     
        known and, in some cases     

1525
01:11:19,358 --> 01:11:21,652
               supported,            
         by the US government.       

1526
01:11:22,528 --> 01:11:24,947
         In the spring of 1963,      

1527
01:11:24,989 --> 01:11:29,326
     Oswald began associating with   
     men who, it would be revealed, 

1528
01:11:29,368 --> 01:11:33,289
         had clear connections       
     with these government efforts. 

1529
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:35,332
 One of these men, David Ferrie,   

1530
01:11:35,374 --> 01:11:40,546
      had been with Oswald in the    
     Civil Air Patrol back in 1955, 

1531
01:11:40,587 --> 01:11:43,841
             and was known           
     as     an extreme anti-Communist. 

1532
01:11:43,882 --> 01:11:47,636
         He was also a trainer       
        and a pilot for the CIA      

1533
01:11:47,678 --> 01:11:50,597
 in its secret war against Cuba.   

1534
01:11:50,639 --> 01:11:52,141
     Oswald was involved with these 

1535
01:11:52,182 --> 01:11:55,561
          Cuban exile training       
        activities with Ferrie.      

1536
01:11:56,729 --> 01:11:58,856
             I do know              
      that I saw him one time       

1537
01:11:58,897 --> 01:12:02,484
             with a man             
    by the name of Guy Banister.    

1538
01:12:02,526 --> 01:12:05,487
    And, uh, what Guy's role was    

1539
01:12:05,529 --> 01:12:09,283
          in all of this,           
      I-- I really don't know.      

1540
01:12:09,325 --> 01:12:12,119
        [Goldberg]   Banister         
      was an extreme right-winger    

1541
01:12:12,161 --> 01:12:14,288
       who was close to the FBI,     

1542
01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:17,791
                the CIA,             
      and the American Nazi Party.   

1543
01:12:17,833 --> 01:12:23,839
      Banister gave Oswald his own   
       office at 544 Camp Street.    

1544
01:12:23,881 --> 01:12:26,717
            Oswald now began         
           to use his office         

1545
01:12:26,759 --> 01:12:31,055
         to print up and stamp       
         pro-Castro literature.      

1546
01:12:31,096 --> 01:12:35,184
     After the assassination, when   
      the FBI questioned Banister,   

1547
01:12:35,225 --> 01:12:37,895
      a former FBI agent himself,    

1548
01:12:37,936 --> 01:12:41,982
          they did not ask him       
             about Oswald.           

1549
01:12:42,024 --> 01:12:45,861
 At some point, the FBI, I think   
 probably after the assassination 

1550
01:12:45,903 --> 01:12:48,405
       decided they didn't--        
     they wanted to disconnect      

1551
01:12:48,447 --> 01:12:50,491
        Oswald from the FBI,        

1552
01:12:50,532 --> 01:12:53,660
   and-- and of course, Banister,   
   who's associated with the FBI,   

1553
01:12:53,702 --> 01:12:56,121
          would have to be          
       disconnected as well.        

1554
01:12:56,163 --> 01:12:57,247
       The problem with that,       

1555
01:12:57,289 --> 01:12:59,291
      many of those handbills had    

1556
01:12:59,333 --> 01:13:02,211
          the 544 Camp Street        
            address on them.         

1557
01:13:02,252 --> 01:13:05,839
        There was a message         
   from New Orleans to the Bureau   

1558
01:13:05,881 --> 01:13:08,717
 written by Special Agent Maynor, 

1559
01:13:08,759 --> 01:13:11,553
            uh, who actually         
          mentioned pamphlets        

1560
01:13:11,595 --> 01:13:14,390
            that had the 544         
       Camp Street address on it.    

1561
01:13:14,431 --> 01:13:17,518
             And before             
       that message was sent,       
       it was scratched out.        

1562
01:13:19,144 --> 01:13:21,522
       [Goldberg]   The Warren        
       Commission pushed the idea    

1563
01:13:21,563 --> 01:13:23,899
              that Oswald            
        was a staunch communist,     

1564
01:13:23,941 --> 01:13:26,110
            citing evidence          
            of his defection         

1565
01:13:26,151 --> 01:13:29,613
      to the Soviet Union in 1959.   

1566
01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:32,533
     His trip to Russia raised      
       a number of questions        

1567
01:13:32,574 --> 01:13:34,201
    that we wanted to get into.     

1568
01:13:34,243 --> 01:13:40,958
         For example, when          
    any American went to Russia     

1569
01:13:40,999 --> 01:13:43,585
             and renounced           
       his American citizenship,     

1570
01:13:43,627 --> 01:13:45,963
            and subsequently         
            changed his mind         

1571
01:13:46,004 --> 01:13:49,425
        and wanted to come back      
            to this country.         

1572
01:13:49,466 --> 01:13:51,510
 Upon returning to this country,   

1573
01:13:51,552 --> 01:13:53,929
 there was a thorough debriefing   

1574
01:13:54,555 --> 01:13:57,433
              by the CIA,            

1575
01:13:57,474 --> 01:14:01,478
     with one exception, as far     
    as we can ascertain, Oswald.    

1576
01:14:03,063 --> 01:14:06,024
          Now, that smacks          
 of an intelligence relationship. 

1577
01:14:06,066 --> 01:14:07,359
             [reporter]             
    Did you kill the President?     

1578
01:14:07,401 --> 01:14:08,902
      No, they're taking me in      

1579
01:14:08,944 --> 01:14:11,405
      because of the fact that      
    I lived in the Soviet Union.    

1580
01:14:13,323 --> 01:14:17,244
             [Goldberg]             
     State Department Intelligence   
          Officer Otto Otepka        

1581
01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:20,664
     had noted the marked increase   
       in the number of Americans    

1582
01:14:20,706 --> 01:14:23,125
          defecting to Russia        
              at the time.           

1583
01:14:23,167 --> 01:14:27,004
 He also noted that some of them   
        came from the military.      

1584
01:14:27,045 --> 01:14:30,174
        He, therefore, suspected     
         that some of these men      

1585
01:14:30,215 --> 01:14:32,134
          were fake defectors.       

1586
01:14:32,176 --> 01:14:34,178
         They had been assigned      
               by the CIA            

1587
01:14:34,219 --> 01:14:38,182
         to garner intelligence      
        behind the Iron Curtain.     

1588
01:14:38,223 --> 01:14:42,644
      He sent a letter to the CIA    
      asking which ones were real    

1589
01:14:42,686 --> 01:14:45,397
      and which were their agents.   

1590
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,776
      Oswald was one of the names    
           on Otepka's list.         

1591
01:14:49,818 --> 01:14:53,238
     Otepka's request was forwarded 
           to James Angleton,        

1592
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,240
     Chief of Counterintelligence.   

1593
01:14:55,282 --> 01:14:58,994
      He instructed that there be    
      no research done on Oswald,    

1594
01:14:59,036 --> 01:15:03,248
      but Otepka continued to work   
          on the Oswald case.        

1595
01:15:03,290 --> 01:15:05,125
       The thing of significance     

1596
01:15:05,167 --> 01:15:07,586
       was that he was really       
 interested in Lee Harvey Oswald   

1597
01:15:07,628 --> 01:15:10,088
     before the assassination,      

1598
01:15:10,130 --> 01:15:14,801
    and he actually had a study     
 of these defectors in his safe.   

1599
01:15:14,843 --> 01:15:18,055
      Well, things got worse.       
 His office was not only bugged,   

1600
01:15:18,096 --> 01:15:20,682
       they planted people in       
     his office to spy on him.      

1601
01:15:20,724 --> 01:15:24,561
        They started putting        
       confidential documents       
          in his burn bag,          

1602
01:15:24,603 --> 01:15:26,146
           and then tried           
       to blame him in saying       

1603
01:15:26,188 --> 01:15:27,898
            he's burning            
      confidential documents.       

1604
01:15:27,940 --> 01:15:30,234
         The guy has gone,          
          you know, wacko.          

1605
01:15:30,275 --> 01:15:32,027
      [Goldberg]   As a result,       

1606
01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:34,738
        he was formally removed      
       from the State Department     

1607
01:15:34,780 --> 01:15:37,908
         on November 5th, 1963,      

1608
01:15:37,950 --> 01:15:41,119
              just 17 days           
       before the assassination.     

1609
01:15:41,161 --> 01:15:44,831
      So you will not see Otepka's   
       name in the Warren Report.    

1610
01:15:44,873 --> 01:15:48,460
        And he was not called as     
      a witness before that body.    

1611
01:15:48,502 --> 01:15:50,796
       In fact, Angleton, the man    

1612
01:15:50,837 --> 01:15:55,050
         who had access to all       
      the Oswald files at the CIA,   

1613
01:15:55,092 --> 01:15:57,177
              coordinated            
         the agency's response       

1614
01:15:57,219 --> 01:16:00,764
       to the Warren Commission's    
               requests.             

1615
01:16:00,806 --> 01:16:04,560
             [reporter]             
        The CIA Deputy Director      
        of Plans,     Richard Helms,    

1616
01:16:04,601 --> 01:16:06,270
     swore to the Warren Commission 

1617
01:16:06,311 --> 01:16:08,105
       that the agency never had     

1618
01:16:08,146 --> 01:16:11,400
            or contemplated          
        any contact with Oswald.     

1619
01:16:11,441 --> 01:16:14,403
     The line that the CIA fed      
       the Warren Commission,       

1620
01:16:14,444 --> 01:16:16,989
    that they really didn't know    
      anything about this guy.      

1621
01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:20,117
          We now know that          
    that was complete nonsense.     

1622
01:16:20,158 --> 01:16:23,745
               Oswald was            
      a figure of intense interest   

1623
01:16:23,787 --> 01:16:26,456
             for four years          
       before the assassination.     

1624
01:16:26,498 --> 01:16:30,294
 And a dozen senior CIA officers   

1625
01:16:30,335 --> 01:16:32,129
               were very             
       well acquainted with him.     

1626
01:16:32,170 --> 01:16:34,798
         Everything he did,         
           where he went,           

1627
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,301
      what his politics were,       
          his family life.          

1628
01:16:37,342 --> 01:16:41,013
    I mean, remember, they were     
     reading his mother's mail.     

1629
01:16:41,054 --> 01:16:43,098
         That's how closely         
       they were watching him       

1630
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:45,892
           right up until           
        Kennedy was killed.         

1631
01:16:45,934 --> 01:16:48,687
    And then Kennedy was killed,    
         Oswald's arrested,         

1632
01:16:48,729 --> 01:16:52,232
         and they say, "Oh,         
 we know nothing about this man." 

1633
01:16:52,274 --> 01:16:56,111
             [Goldberg]             
       In fact, ARRB records show    

1634
01:16:56,153 --> 01:17:00,324
     that Angleton and the CIA were 
      receiving reports on Oswald    

1635
01:17:00,365 --> 01:17:04,202
           up until one week         
       before the assassination.     

1636
01:17:04,244 --> 01:17:05,996
           So, you know,            
      the whole investigation       

1637
01:17:06,038 --> 01:17:09,041
          would have been           
         totally different          

1638
01:17:09,082 --> 01:17:12,294
       if-- if the public and       
    the investigators had known     

1639
01:17:12,336 --> 01:17:16,048
     just how much the CIA knew     
    about the alleged lone nut.     

1640
01:17:18,634 --> 01:17:22,054
    [Goldberg]   One of the places    
      Oswald leafleted     in front of 

1641
01:17:22,095 --> 01:17:25,432
            was Clay Shaw's          
       International Trade Mart.     

1642
01:17:25,474 --> 01:17:29,978
       Shaw, who was arrested by     
      New Orleans DA Jim Garrison    

1643
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:32,522
           on charges that he        
       was part of the conspiracy    

1644
01:17:32,564 --> 01:17:34,358
       to kill President Kennedy,    

1645
01:17:34,399 --> 01:17:38,528
          always denied he was       
        associated with the CIA.     

1646
01:17:38,570 --> 01:17:40,489
           [interviewer]            
    You have never yourself had     
        any CIA connection?         

1647
01:17:40,530 --> 01:17:41,782
          None whatsoever.          

1648
01:17:41,823 --> 01:17:43,075
          Any association           
       with the organization?       

1649
01:17:43,116 --> 01:17:44,242
             Not a one.             

1650
01:17:44,284 --> 01:17:45,952
             [Goldberg]             
       The Review Board has shown    

1651
01:17:45,994 --> 01:17:48,413
       these denials to be false.    

1652
01:17:48,455 --> 01:17:51,958
             Shaw was both           
   a highly valued     contract agent 

1653
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,586
                and had              
      a covert security clearance    

1654
01:17:54,628 --> 01:17:58,548
           for a project code        
            named QKENCHANT.         

1655
01:18:00,634 --> 01:18:02,719
          New Orleans attorney       
              Dean Andrews           

1656
01:18:02,761 --> 01:18:05,347
         had worked with Oswald      
             in May of '63           

1657
01:18:05,389 --> 01:18:08,767
        in an attempt to upgrade     
         his military discharge      

1658
01:18:08,809 --> 01:18:11,395
     from its "undesirable" status. 

1659
01:18:11,436 --> 01:18:16,066
     After the assassination, a man 
     calling himself Clay Bertrand   

1660
01:18:16,108 --> 01:18:19,695
      phoned Andrews and asked him   
      to consider going to Dallas    

1661
01:18:19,736 --> 01:18:22,197
           to defend Oswald.         

1662
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:26,159
      Under oath, Clay Shaw denied   
       that he was Clay Bertrand,    

1663
01:18:26,201 --> 01:18:28,078
          and Andrews claimed        
              that because           

1664
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,706
      of the medication he was on,   

1665
01:18:30,747 --> 01:18:33,166
          he had only imagined       
            the phone call.          

1666
01:18:33,208 --> 01:18:35,585
     But today, because of the work 

1667
01:18:35,627 --> 01:18:38,088
          of the Assassination       
         Records Review Board,       

1668
01:18:38,130 --> 01:18:41,299
          we now have evidence       
      and 12 people who confirmed    

1669
01:18:41,341 --> 01:18:44,177
               that Shaw             
      used this name as an alias.    

1670
01:18:44,219 --> 01:18:47,472
         Andrews later admitted      
         that Shaw was Bertrand      

1671
01:18:47,514 --> 01:18:49,433
       to author Harold Weisberg,    

1672
01:18:49,474 --> 01:18:51,893
          but made him promise       
           not to reveal this        

1673
01:18:51,935 --> 01:18:54,187
      until after Andrews' death.    

1674
01:18:57,524 --> 01:18:59,276
     [John Newman]   In the FBI,      

1675
01:18:59,317 --> 01:19:03,989
     uh, a stop or flash was placed 
           on Oswald's files,        

1676
01:19:04,030 --> 01:19:07,367
        which meant that no one      

1677
01:19:07,409 --> 01:19:10,454
           could ask for            
     a document in those files,     

1678
01:19:10,495 --> 01:19:14,040
      or no one could even add      
     a document to those files      

1679
01:19:14,082 --> 01:19:18,044
       without going through        
   the FBI's espionage division.    

1680
01:19:18,086 --> 01:19:21,006
 And that lasted for four years.   

1681
01:19:21,047 --> 01:19:24,009
         It was essentially         
        a blinking red light        

1682
01:19:24,050 --> 01:19:26,303
     on Oswald's files at FBI.      

1683
01:19:27,846 --> 01:19:31,391
        On 8 October, 1963,         

1684
01:19:31,433 --> 01:19:34,853
        an FBI agent whose name      
          was Marvin Gheesling       

1685
01:19:34,895 --> 01:19:37,773
            took that status         
         off of Oswald's files.      

1686
01:19:39,775 --> 01:19:42,152
        What that action did        
            was to lower            

1687
01:19:42,194 --> 01:19:46,406
      Oswald's threat profile       
             at the FBI             

1688
01:19:46,448 --> 01:19:50,118
         just weeks before          
     the Kennedy assassination.     

1689
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,996
      And what that would mean      
       is there was no reason       

1690
01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:56,249
        to put Oswald's name        
       on the security index.       

1691
01:19:56,291 --> 01:19:58,460
               One thing             
        about the security index     

1692
01:19:58,502 --> 01:20:00,921
            is when you have         
        a Presidential motorcade     

1693
01:20:00,962 --> 01:20:03,465
             going through           
          a particular route,        

1694
01:20:03,507 --> 01:20:04,925
      anybody who's on that index    

1695
01:20:04,966 --> 01:20:06,760
           has to be removed         
          from where they are.       

1696
01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:08,678
             They cannot be          
          on the parade route.       

1697
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,555
      And, of course, that exposes   

1698
01:20:10,597 --> 01:20:13,016
             the     President          
        to a dangerous situation     

1699
01:20:13,058 --> 01:20:14,601
 that he shouldn't have been in.   

1700
01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:18,146
       That action at the FBI       
    didn't happen in isolation.     

1701
01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:23,151
   The same thing happened at CIA   
     at exactly the same time.      

1702
01:20:23,193 --> 01:20:26,196
              [Stone]               
       Who was the CIA's liaison     
           they chose to work        

1703
01:20:26,238 --> 01:20:29,574
         with the House Select       
           Committee in 1978?        

1704
01:20:29,616 --> 01:20:30,659
         George Joannides.          

1705
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:32,536
        He was the case officer      

1706
01:20:32,577 --> 01:20:34,454
         for the Cuban students      

1707
01:20:34,496 --> 01:20:37,040
     who had a series of encounters 
              with Oswald            

1708
01:20:37,082 --> 01:20:38,750
       before the assassination.     

1709
01:20:38,792 --> 01:20:41,169
     And then, 13 years later,      

1710
01:20:41,211 --> 01:20:44,005
           when Congress            
     reopens the investigation,     

1711
01:20:44,047 --> 01:20:46,800
        the CIA calls Joannides      
           out of retirement,        

1712
01:20:46,842 --> 01:20:49,010
     and make him the point person   

1713
01:20:49,052 --> 01:20:51,221
              to deal with           
 the Congressional investigators   

1714
01:20:51,263 --> 01:20:53,014
     who are looking into the CIA's 

1715
01:20:53,056 --> 01:20:55,851
             possible role           
         in the assassination.       

1716
01:20:55,892 --> 01:20:58,061
                The HSCA             
        knew nothing about this,     

1717
01:20:58,103 --> 01:20:59,896
       and I went to Bob Blakey,     

1718
01:20:59,938 --> 01:21:02,524
              the head of            
        the HSCA investigation,      

1719
01:21:02,566 --> 01:21:04,860
   and I said, "Bob, did you ever   
     know this guy, Joannides?"     

1720
01:21:04,901 --> 01:21:06,862
   And he said, "Yeah, you know,    
      we dealt with him a lot.      

1721
01:21:06,903 --> 01:21:08,530
        He was the liaison."        

1722
01:21:08,572 --> 01:21:11,241
     And I said, "Did you know      
    what he was doing in 1963?"     

1723
01:21:11,283 --> 01:21:13,493
        And he said, "He wasn't      
        doing anything in 1963.      

1724
01:21:13,535 --> 01:21:15,036
                "We had              
       an agreement with the CIA     

1725
01:21:15,078 --> 01:21:16,371
              "that nobody           
          who was operational        

1726
01:21:16,413 --> 01:21:18,206
              "at the time           
          of the assassination       

1727
01:21:18,248 --> 01:21:20,375
         would be involved          
       in the investigation."       

1728
01:21:20,417 --> 01:21:24,045
    And I said, "Bob, Joannides     
      was running those Cubans      

1729
01:21:24,087 --> 01:21:26,548
 "who were in touch with Oswald.   
       He was running the Cubans     

1730
01:21:26,590 --> 01:21:28,758
        "who were blaming Castro     
         for the assassination.      

1731
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,470
          "He was Dick Helms'        
       hand-picked man in Miami,     

1732
01:21:32,512 --> 01:21:35,557
    "controlling the group that     
   had the most to do with Oswald   

1733
01:21:35,599 --> 01:21:37,475
         "before and after          
         the assassination.         

1734
01:21:37,517 --> 01:21:39,853
         And then he came along      
        and he stonewalled you."     

1735
01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:42,355
      The reason why they brought    
         Joannides in to do it       

1736
01:21:42,397 --> 01:21:45,525
              was to hide            
       the connection to Oswald.     

1737
01:21:45,567 --> 01:21:47,944
       He was definitely shocked     
                because              

1738
01:21:47,986 --> 01:21:50,488
         he saw just how clever      
             they had been.          

1739
01:21:50,530 --> 01:21:53,450
       They had gone right to       
 the heart of his investigation,   

1740
01:21:53,491 --> 01:21:55,285
          and figured out           
        how to paralyze it.         

1741
01:21:55,327 --> 01:21:57,203
        I remember that he said,     
               you know,             

1742
01:21:57,245 --> 01:22:00,457
      "I'll never believe anything   
        the CIA tells me again."     

1743
01:22:02,667 --> 01:22:05,086
             [Goldberg]             
     Even the Assassination Records 
              Review Board           

1744
01:22:05,128 --> 01:22:09,090
     had trouble getting documents   
       from government agencies.     

1745
01:22:09,132 --> 01:22:12,469
           What were some           
        of your difficulties        
       working with the CIA?        

1746
01:22:12,510 --> 01:22:16,556
   One of the censors at the CIA    
     was at a meeting with us,      

1747
01:22:16,598 --> 01:22:20,143
      and there was a document      
    that we put up on the screen    

1748
01:22:20,185 --> 01:22:21,978
             and said,              
 "We are prepared to release it." 

1749
01:22:22,854 --> 01:22:24,272
     And I asked him, you know,     

1750
01:22:24,314 --> 01:22:26,608
     "Tell us why we shouldn't      
       release this record?"        

1751
01:22:26,650 --> 01:22:29,277
         And it was silence         
       for about two minutes.       

1752
01:22:29,319 --> 01:22:32,322
        And he finally said,        
     "I know there is a reason,     

1753
01:22:32,364 --> 01:22:34,908
         I just can't think         
          of what it is."           

1754
01:22:36,159 --> 01:22:37,827
             [Goldberg]             
             In late 1992,           

1755
01:22:37,869 --> 01:22:41,081
             a month after           
      the Records Act was passed,    

1756
01:22:41,122 --> 01:22:44,584
        the Secret Service began     
          its compliance plan.       

1757
01:22:44,626 --> 01:22:47,629
        But by January of 1995,      

1758
01:22:47,671 --> 01:22:51,758
        it had begun destroying      
          important documents.       

1759
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,594
     The destruction of records     
       is actually referenced       

1760
01:22:54,636 --> 01:22:59,391
    in the Assassination Records    
 Review Board final, uh, report.   

1761
01:22:59,432 --> 01:23:02,519
     Very, um, very disappointing.   

1762
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,688
         Uh, they were records       
         that related to trips       

1763
01:23:04,729 --> 01:23:09,442
     that President Kennedy had     
   taken, uh, in the fall of 1963   

1764
01:23:09,484 --> 01:23:12,112
     prior to him going to Dallas.   

1765
01:23:12,153 --> 01:23:14,698
         [John R. Tunheim]          
      There were many threats made   
      to President Kennedy's life    

1766
01:23:14,739 --> 01:23:16,866
         during the year 1963.       

1767
01:23:16,908 --> 01:23:18,493
   They're called threat sheets.    

1768
01:23:18,535 --> 01:23:20,286
         And the Secret Service      
               fought us             

1769
01:23:20,328 --> 01:23:22,539
      on release of those records.   

1770
01:23:22,580 --> 01:23:23,999
           They even enlisted        

1771
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,543
       Vice President Gore's        
         wife to help them,         

1772
01:23:26,584 --> 01:23:29,170
          because she had           
     a very legitimate concern      

1773
01:23:29,212 --> 01:23:31,047
     for mental health records.     

1774
01:23:31,089 --> 01:23:34,300
 And the idea was that this might 
    disclose the names of people    

1775
01:23:34,342 --> 01:23:36,261
 who had mental health problems.   

1776
01:23:36,302 --> 01:23:39,389
    In the end, when we required    
       agencies to disclose,        

1777
01:23:39,431 --> 01:23:41,349
        to swear under oath         
           that they had            

1778
01:23:41,391 --> 01:23:43,560
            located all             
       assassination records,       

1779
01:23:43,601 --> 01:23:45,687
             had turned             
       everything over to us,       

1780
01:23:45,729 --> 01:23:49,941
     the Secret Service refused     
 to sign the document under oath. 

1781
01:23:49,983 --> 01:23:51,234
     I think that was telling.      

1782
01:23:53,111 --> 01:23:55,822
     [Goldberg]   Few people knew     
      that there had been at least   

1783
01:23:55,864 --> 01:24:00,410
        two prior plots to kill      
       President Kennedy in 1963.    

1784
01:24:00,452 --> 01:24:03,246
           One was in Chicago        
            on November 2nd.         

1785
01:24:03,288 --> 01:24:07,042
        The second was in Tampa      
           on November 18th.         

1786
01:24:07,083 --> 01:24:09,753
          Kennedy ended up          
       not going to Chicago.        

1787
01:24:09,794 --> 01:24:11,421
      Tell us about that plot.      

1788
01:24:11,463 --> 01:24:14,924
   An informant, on October 31st,   

1789
01:24:14,966 --> 01:24:19,220
       an informant named Lee       
     gave a warning to the FBI      

1790
01:24:19,262 --> 01:24:22,265
        stating that four Cubans     

1791
01:24:22,307 --> 01:24:24,768
         were headed to Chicago      
           to shoot Kennedy.         

1792
01:24:24,809 --> 01:24:28,521
   The following day, a landlady    
   reported to the Chicago police   

1793
01:24:28,563 --> 01:24:31,232
          that she had rented        
         a room to four people       

1794
01:24:31,274 --> 01:24:33,276
          that had rifles           
       with telescopic sights       

1795
01:24:33,318 --> 01:24:35,403
   and a sketch of the motorcade.   

1796
01:24:35,445 --> 01:24:38,573
          The FBI passed that        
       on     to the Secret Service,    

1797
01:24:38,615 --> 01:24:41,868
       and the Secret Service       
      botched the surveillance      

1798
01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:43,286
     of these four individuals.     

1799
01:24:43,328 --> 01:24:44,871
        Two of them escaped,        

1800
01:24:44,913 --> 01:24:47,165
    but they actually picked up     
        two of the snipers,         

1801
01:24:47,207 --> 01:24:48,500
      and they detained them.       

1802
01:24:48,541 --> 01:24:50,627
       They were stonewalled        
          by the snipers.           

1803
01:24:50,668 --> 01:24:52,462
          They didn't get           
    any information out of them.    

1804
01:24:52,504 --> 01:24:56,091
   While this was going on, there   
    was another threat coming in    

1805
01:24:56,132 --> 01:25:01,054
    from another alternate patsy    
    named Thomas Arthur Vallee,     

1806
01:25:01,096 --> 01:25:02,597
             who was making          
         open and loud threats       

1807
01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:04,933
             that he would           
          assassinate Kennedy.       

1808
01:25:04,974 --> 01:25:08,770
        They only picked him up      
 when Kennedy canceled his trip,   

1809
01:25:08,812 --> 01:25:12,398
            on November 2nd          
        at 10:00 in the morning.     

1810
01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:16,653
      What you found in Vallee      
     and the whole Chicago plot     

1811
01:25:16,694 --> 01:25:20,740
 is so many similarities to what   
   eventually happened in Dallas    

1812
01:25:20,782 --> 01:25:23,493
          that it can't be          
      considered coincidental.      

1813
01:25:23,535 --> 01:25:28,081
       Vallee, if we compare him     
      to Oswald, is an ex-Marine.    

1814
01:25:28,123 --> 01:25:30,917
          He had been posted,        
      like Oswald, in the Far East   

1815
01:25:30,959 --> 01:25:34,129
              on a station           
       that was linked to the CIA    

1816
01:25:34,170 --> 01:25:37,173
           because there were        
     U-2 surveillance planes on it. 

1817
01:25:37,215 --> 01:25:41,177
     It was easy to portray him     
   as disgruntled, anti-Kennedy,    

1818
01:25:41,219 --> 01:25:42,971
          a loner, armed.           

1819
01:25:43,012 --> 01:25:45,723
             Uh, he had             
     another intelligence link      

1820
01:25:45,765 --> 01:25:48,351
    that he shared with Oswald.     

1821
01:25:48,393 --> 01:25:51,062
        He trained Cuban exiles      
              for combat,            

1822
01:25:51,104 --> 01:25:53,857
 which was a CIA responsibility.   

1823
01:25:53,898 --> 01:25:56,901
          And Oswald, we know,       
      at least offered to do that.   

1824
01:25:56,943 --> 01:26:01,072
   He most likely did train Cuban   
 exiles, but we know he tried to. 

1825
01:26:01,114 --> 01:26:03,575
          Oswald, as we know,        
               was moved             

1826
01:26:03,616 --> 01:26:07,162
            from New Orleans         
          to Dallas in October       

1827
01:26:07,203 --> 01:26:08,830
            to be there just         
          at the right time...       

1828
01:26:09,706 --> 01:26:11,249
         for the motorcade.         

1829
01:26:11,291 --> 01:26:14,335
          And he's placed           
        in a tall building,         
        where he gets a job.        

1830
01:26:14,377 --> 01:26:17,589
           He's adjacent            
     to the perfect kill zone.      

1831
01:26:17,630 --> 01:26:20,508
      Now, if we look at what       
      happened to, uh, Vallee,      

1832
01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:23,469
        he's moved like a pawn,      
               in August,            

1833
01:26:23,511 --> 01:26:26,389
    from Long Island to Chicago     

1834
01:26:26,431 --> 01:26:28,224
        to be there in time         
         for the motorcade.         

1835
01:26:28,266 --> 01:26:29,851
    And where does he get a job?    

1836
01:26:29,893 --> 01:26:33,188
         In a tall building         
     adjacent to the motorcade      

1837
01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:35,857
          with a perfect view        
            of a kill zone.          

1838
01:26:35,899 --> 01:26:38,484
           It would have            
     forced Kennedy's motorcade     

1839
01:26:38,526 --> 01:26:40,737
   to do a sharp turn, slow down,   

1840
01:26:40,778 --> 01:26:42,197
         and be in a point          

1841
01:26:42,238 --> 01:26:45,033
       where you could've had       
   perfect triangulation of fire.   

1842
01:26:45,074 --> 01:26:46,659
           And what about           
        the trip to Florida?        

1843
01:26:46,701 --> 01:26:48,244
         On November 18th,          

1844
01:26:48,286 --> 01:26:50,371
       Kennedy was scheduled        

1845
01:26:50,413 --> 01:26:52,957
        to do a 27-mile-long        
        motorcade in Tampa.         

1846
01:26:52,999 --> 01:26:57,462
 Secret Service was very nervous   
       about the Floridian Hotel     

1847
01:26:57,503 --> 01:26:59,214
          where the motorcade        
           would've gone by.         

1848
01:26:59,255 --> 01:27:00,757
             It would have           
          forced a sharp turn.       

1849
01:27:00,798 --> 01:27:03,593
     Nobody fired away at him.      
         But in this case,          

1850
01:27:03,635 --> 01:27:08,181
        the patsy would've been      
       a Gilbert Policarpo Lopez.    

1851
01:27:08,223 --> 01:27:09,891
         He was a Cuban exile.       

1852
01:27:09,933 --> 01:27:13,895
         He attended Fair Play       
      for Cuba Committee meetings.   

1853
01:27:13,937 --> 01:27:16,773
       And what do you think        
      was the relevance of it?      

1854
01:27:16,814 --> 01:27:19,734
            [Paul Bleau]            
          Well, if he had been       
         assassinated in Tampa,      

1855
01:27:19,776 --> 01:27:22,904
        Lopez, he would've been      
       the, uh, potential patsy,     

1856
01:27:22,946 --> 01:27:26,115
        if they had to admit        
         to a front shot...         

1857
01:27:26,157 --> 01:27:28,409
     because Oswald was behind.     

1858
01:27:28,451 --> 01:27:32,247
         There were rumors          
    that he had assisted Oswald     

1859
01:27:32,288 --> 01:27:34,082
 in the assassination in Dallas.   

1860
01:27:34,123 --> 01:27:37,210
            Had anyone--            
       anyone tried to speak        
      to the Warren Commission      

1861
01:27:37,252 --> 01:27:38,878
       about these incidents?       

1862
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,713
              [Bleau]               
             Abraham Bolden          

1863
01:27:40,755 --> 01:27:43,341
          was     the first  Black      
          Secret Service agent       

1864
01:27:43,383 --> 01:27:45,385
              assigned to            
        the White House detail,      

1865
01:27:45,426 --> 01:27:47,428
               and he was            
        hand-picked by Kennedy.      

1866
01:27:47,470 --> 01:27:50,139
           He was in Chicago,        
     uh, when this plot went down.   

1867
01:27:50,181 --> 01:27:53,810
        So he was there when        
   the Secret Service was briefed   

1868
01:27:53,851 --> 01:27:55,561
      about the four snipers.       

1869
01:27:55,603 --> 01:27:57,772
       And he witnessed how much     

1870
01:27:57,814 --> 01:28:00,942
              the security           
          was lax for Chicago.       

1871
01:28:00,984 --> 01:28:04,279
       And he also witnessed,       
      after the assassination,      

1872
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,531
             the steps              
      that were taken to keep       

1873
01:28:06,572 --> 01:28:09,242
          the Chicago plot          
         completely secret.         

1874
01:28:09,284 --> 01:28:11,494
            No paper trail,          
           compartmentalized,        

1875
01:28:11,536 --> 01:28:14,247
             agents ordered          
        to keep silent about it.     

1876
01:28:14,289 --> 01:28:17,208
          This information          
        did not make its way        

1877
01:28:17,250 --> 01:28:19,419
      to Secret Service agents      

1878
01:28:19,460 --> 01:28:21,504
    that were protecting Kennedy    

1879
01:28:21,546 --> 01:28:23,965
       for future motorcades,       
         including Dallas.          

1880
01:28:24,007 --> 01:28:26,050
     [Goldberg]   Secret Service      
           Agent Elmer Moore         

1881
01:28:26,092 --> 01:28:30,722
       was aware of Agent Bolden     
         and the Chicago plot.       

1882
01:28:30,763 --> 01:28:33,766
          I met with Elmer          
     three times face-to-face,      

1883
01:28:33,808 --> 01:28:37,020
        several phone calls,        
   very short, one very long one.   

1884
01:28:37,061 --> 01:28:40,898
         I first asked him,         
      "Did you ever interview       

1885
01:28:40,940 --> 01:28:42,608
         Thomas Arthur Vallee?"      

1886
01:28:42,650 --> 01:28:44,569
      And he says, "Oh, Washington   

1887
01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:46,696
            wouldn't let me          
        see the files on that."      

1888
01:28:46,738 --> 01:28:49,282
         I said, "Oh, well,         
         what about a man,          

1889
01:28:49,324 --> 01:28:51,951
     a Secret Service agent by      
    the name of Abraham Bolden?"    

1890
01:28:53,411 --> 01:28:55,830
 His demeanor completely changed. 

1891
01:28:55,872 --> 01:28:59,667
    He stood up from his chair,     
    he pulled out his revolver,     

1892
01:28:59,709 --> 01:29:02,837
     and he put it on the table     
       right in front of me.        

1893
01:29:02,879 --> 01:29:05,506
           He leaned over           
       the table and he says,       

1894
01:29:05,548 --> 01:29:08,718
      "Jim, tell me right now,      
     who are you working for?"      

1895
01:29:11,387 --> 01:29:14,349
              I said,               
 "I'm an independent researcher." 

1896
01:29:14,974 --> 01:29:16,017
           He told me...            

1897
01:29:18,519 --> 01:29:19,937
      in a very loud voice...       

1898
01:29:21,731 --> 01:29:24,484
     and with a very stern look     
            on his face,            

1899
01:29:24,525 --> 01:29:27,362
         "We finally got him."       

1900
01:29:27,403 --> 01:29:29,197
              [Bleau]               
     Abraham Bolden was one person   

1901
01:29:29,238 --> 01:29:31,074
 who did try to say what he knew   

1902
01:29:31,115 --> 01:29:34,160
     to the Warren Commission,      
       but they blocked him.        

1903
01:29:34,202 --> 01:29:35,703
    He was blocked from talking     

1904
01:29:35,745 --> 01:29:39,415
       and eventually railroaded     
         into some phony crime       

1905
01:29:39,457 --> 01:29:41,459
           and put into jail         
         for a number of years.      

1906
01:29:45,922 --> 01:29:48,758
              [Stone]               
     The National Archives is home   
          to forensic evidence       

1907
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,010
      of Kennedy's assassination,    

1908
01:29:51,052 --> 01:29:54,389
          and government files       
      regarding Lee Harvey Oswald.   

1909
01:29:54,430 --> 01:29:56,849
          But the Review Board       
           also declassified         

1910
01:29:56,891 --> 01:29:59,185
             many documents          
       regarding Kennedy's plans     

1911
01:29:59,227 --> 01:30:01,062
      for withdrawal from Vietnam,   

1912
01:30:01,104 --> 01:30:03,481
           and how he planned        
       to shape his progressive,     

1913
01:30:03,523 --> 01:30:06,484
      new American foreign policy.   

1914
01:30:06,526 --> 01:30:08,903
             A policy that,          
           if put in motion,         

1915
01:30:08,945 --> 01:30:12,407
     would completely derail plans   
        secretly already set up      

1916
01:30:12,448 --> 01:30:14,450
      by the Pentagon and the CIA.   

1917
01:30:19,622 --> 01:30:22,917
          I never realized          
      Kennedy was so dangerous      
       to the establishment.        

1918
01:30:24,335 --> 01:30:26,421
            Is that why?            

1919
01:30:26,462 --> 01:30:27,922
     That's the real question,      
             isn't it?              

1920
01:30:27,964 --> 01:30:29,382
               "Why?"               

1921
01:30:29,424 --> 01:30:33,678
      The "how" and the "who"       
 is just scenery for the public.   

1922
01:30:33,719 --> 01:30:37,056
   Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, the Mafia,   

1923
01:30:37,098 --> 01:30:39,142
         keeps 'em guessing         
   like some kind of parlor game.   

1924
01:30:39,183 --> 01:30:42,562
    Prevents 'em from asking the    
 most important question: "Why?"   

1925
01:30:42,603 --> 01:30:45,815
      Why was Kennedy killed?       
           Who benefited?           

1926
01:30:45,857 --> 01:30:47,483
         Who has the power          
          to cover it up?           

1927
01:30:48,192 --> 01:30:49,110
                Who?                

1928
01:30:51,696 --> 01:30:53,322
        [Donald Sutherland]         
       His first year in office,     

1929
01:30:53,364 --> 01:30:56,951
           Kennedy must shape        
      his own policy as President,   

1930
01:30:56,993 --> 01:31:00,455
 sometimes in conflict with what   
      his predecessors have done,    

1931
01:31:00,496 --> 01:31:03,499
     especially in foreign policy.   

1932
01:31:03,541 --> 01:31:08,963
        And by the fall of 1963,     
     Kennedy had made many enemies. 

1933
01:31:09,005 --> 01:31:12,842
     He was working on an American   
        withdrawal from Vietnam.     

1934
01:31:12,884 --> 01:31:16,179
        An upcoming State visit      
          to Indonesia in '64.       

1935
01:31:16,220 --> 01:31:20,433
            An independent,          
 unified democracy in the Congo.   

1936
01:31:20,475 --> 01:31:24,061
       Through Nasser, a balanced    
       policy in the Middle East.    

1937
01:31:24,103 --> 01:31:27,315
       Normalization of relations    
               with Cuba.            

1938
01:31:27,356 --> 01:31:30,318
       And a    détente   with Russia.   

1939
01:31:30,359 --> 01:31:33,529
           Even going so far         
            as to offer them         
      a joint mission to the moon.   

1940
01:31:34,697 --> 01:31:37,825
       But back in April of 1961,    

1941
01:31:37,867 --> 01:31:41,162
         the first stain on his      
 administration asserted itself.   

1942
01:31:43,206 --> 01:31:46,209
      Kennedy, who had campaigned    
      as a strong anti-Communist,    

1943
01:31:46,250 --> 01:31:49,128
             signed off on           
     the Bay of Pigs invasion plan. 

1944
01:31:49,170 --> 01:31:50,713
        His approval of the plan     

1945
01:31:50,755 --> 01:31:53,090
             contained two           
         distinct limitations.       

1946
01:31:53,132 --> 01:31:55,885
          America would supply       
          arms and equipment,        

1947
01:31:55,927 --> 01:31:59,055
 but there would be no Americans   
         in the landing force.       

1948
01:31:59,096 --> 01:32:01,557
                Second,              
     after preliminary air strikes   

1949
01:32:01,599 --> 01:32:03,643
         by Cuban exile pilots,      

1950
01:32:03,684 --> 01:32:05,728
              there would            
        only be further strikes      

1951
01:32:05,770 --> 01:32:08,064
           after the invasion        
          secured an airfield.       

1952
01:32:09,732 --> 01:32:11,567
            Dulles believed          
          that Kennedy would,        

1953
01:32:11,609 --> 01:32:13,736
            like Eisenhower,         
         support the operation       

1954
01:32:13,778 --> 01:32:17,406
        with direct US military      
        intervention if needed,      

1955
01:32:17,448 --> 01:32:20,826
       all the while assuring him    
       it would not be necessary.    

1956
01:32:21,953 --> 01:32:23,913
 Well, first, I want to say that   

1957
01:32:23,955 --> 01:32:26,582
         there will not be,         
       under any conditions,        

1958
01:32:26,624 --> 01:32:29,585
     be an intervention in Cuba     
   by United States armed forces.   

1959
01:32:46,852 --> 01:32:49,188
            [Sutherland]            
      The invasion was a disaster.   

1960
01:32:49,230 --> 01:32:52,441
      Victory has 100 fathers       
      and defeat is an orphan.      

1961
01:32:52,483 --> 01:32:54,402
     Further statements, uh...      

1962
01:32:54,443 --> 01:32:56,612
     detailed, uh, discussions,     

1963
01:32:58,072 --> 01:33:01,450
          are not to, uh,           
       conceal responsibility       

1964
01:33:01,492 --> 01:33:04,287
    because I'm the responsible     
     officer of the Government.     

1965
01:33:04,328 --> 01:33:07,623
      [Sutherland]   In public,       
      Kennedy accepted the blame.    

1966
01:33:07,665 --> 01:33:09,584
              In private,            
      he and his brother suspected   

1967
01:33:09,625 --> 01:33:12,378
             they had been           
          lied to by the CIA.        

1968
01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:16,799
    Allen Dulles confessed that     
   the mission was bound to fail    

1969
01:33:16,841 --> 01:33:18,759
   as it was planned by the CIA,    

1970
01:33:18,801 --> 01:33:21,137
    without US military support.    

1971
01:33:21,178 --> 01:33:23,472
         He confessed this          
        while, uh, preparing        

1972
01:33:23,514 --> 01:33:25,641
             an article             
       for   Harper's Magazine        

1973
01:33:25,683 --> 01:33:27,727
       with the young editor,       
           Willie Morris,           

1974
01:33:27,768 --> 01:33:31,606
 that he couldn't have done this   
 with his small group of exiles,   

1975
01:33:31,647 --> 01:33:33,065
           his Cuban brigade.        

1976
01:33:33,107 --> 01:33:36,110
       He needed the Marines        
    and the Air Force to go in,     

1977
01:33:36,152 --> 01:33:38,988
     and he thought Kennedy was     
   going to be young and pliable,   

1978
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:41,574
     and that in the 11th hour,     
      Kennedy would be forced       

1979
01:33:41,616 --> 01:33:45,161
        to send in, uh, the full     
       might     of the US military.    

1980
01:33:45,202 --> 01:33:48,581
    [Sutherland]   While drafting     
          the article in 1965,       

1981
01:33:48,623 --> 01:33:50,416
        Dulles told his editor,      

1982
01:33:50,458 --> 01:33:54,170
            "That Kennedy--          
       He thought he was a God."     

1983
01:33:54,211 --> 01:33:56,422
           [David Talbot]           
      Jack Kennedy did stand firm.   

1984
01:33:56,464 --> 01:33:58,215
 He did not send in the military. 

1985
01:33:58,257 --> 01:34:01,218
         He did not make it         
    an even bigger global crisis    

1986
01:34:01,260 --> 01:34:02,511
        than it already was.        

1987
01:34:02,553 --> 01:34:04,889
        Kennedy is just furious.     

1988
01:34:04,930 --> 01:34:06,474
    He knows he's been lied to,     

1989
01:34:06,515 --> 01:34:10,728
 deceived by his senior military   
     and intelligence advisers.     

1990
01:34:10,770 --> 01:34:15,149
     He announces that the agency,   
     uh, is going to be downsized.   

1991
01:34:15,191 --> 01:34:18,319
       And he vows famously,        
          he tells friends          

1992
01:34:18,361 --> 01:34:21,364
     he's going to shatter the CIA   
         into a thousand pieces      

1993
01:34:21,405 --> 01:34:23,866
    and scatter it to the winds.    

1994
01:34:23,908 --> 01:34:27,620
     It wasn't just the Bay of Pigs 
     that angered President Kennedy 

1995
01:34:27,662 --> 01:34:29,288
        when it came to the CIA.     

1996
01:34:29,330 --> 01:34:33,042
        In that same month,         
         in April of 1961,          

1997
01:34:33,084 --> 01:34:37,046
     he was also being lied to      
      about a coup in France,       

1998
01:34:37,088 --> 01:34:38,714
          a military coup           
         that was aimed at          

1999
01:34:38,756 --> 01:34:41,384
              overthrowing           
      President Charles de Gaulle,   

2000
01:34:41,425 --> 01:34:43,886
      one of our strongest allies.   

2001
01:34:43,928 --> 01:34:45,805
     [Sutherland]   Allen Dulles,     
         who had a long history      

2002
01:34:45,846 --> 01:34:48,349
     of antagonism with de Gaulle,   

2003
01:34:48,391 --> 01:34:49,809
      falsely reported to Kennedy    

2004
01:34:49,850 --> 01:34:52,395
         that the vast majority      
         of the French military      

2005
01:34:52,436 --> 01:34:55,064
         was staunchly opposed       
         to de Gaulle's support      

2006
01:34:55,106 --> 01:34:58,484
 of Algerian self-determination.   

2007
01:34:58,526 --> 01:35:02,988
        What he didn't tell him      
     was that as far back as 1959,   

2008
01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:06,200
              the CIA had            
        discussed his overthrow.     

2009
01:35:06,242 --> 01:35:09,995
 This coup attempt, orchestrated   
        by four French generals,     

2010
01:35:10,037 --> 01:35:11,664
         was quickly put down.       

2011
01:35:11,706 --> 01:35:15,668
        And several news reports     
     pointed to Allen Dulles' hand   

2012
01:35:15,710 --> 01:35:18,087
       in supporting the episode.    

2013
01:35:18,129 --> 01:35:20,423
            JFK assures             
       the French ambassador,       

2014
01:35:20,464 --> 01:35:22,258
 "I have nothing to do with this. 

2015
01:35:22,299 --> 01:35:25,428
        I stand in full support      
        of President de Gaulle."     

2016
01:35:25,469 --> 01:35:27,930
       But he says something        
        very, very alarming.        

2017
01:35:27,972 --> 01:35:31,392
 He tells the French ambassador,   
         President Kennedy,         

2018
01:35:31,434 --> 01:35:35,062
   that "I'm not in full control,   
 though, of my entire government. 

2019
01:35:35,104 --> 01:35:37,273
   "I'm not in control of the CIA   

2020
01:35:37,314 --> 01:35:39,734
       and I can't speak for        
      what's happening there."      

2021
01:35:39,775 --> 01:35:43,362
      That's a stunning admission    
      for a US President to make.    

2022
01:35:44,989 --> 01:35:46,824
       [Sutherland]   In 1960,        

2023
01:35:46,866 --> 01:35:49,744
           the Congo had been        
        granted     its independence    

2024
01:35:49,785 --> 01:35:51,454
       from Belgian colonial rule    

2025
01:35:51,495 --> 01:35:54,749
            and carried out          
         a democratic election.      

2026
01:35:54,790 --> 01:35:57,126
            In the disorder          
           of the transition,        

2027
01:35:57,168 --> 01:36:00,045
             the Belgians,           
     backed by England and France,   

2028
01:36:00,087 --> 01:36:02,840
          sought to eliminate        
 its charismatic Prime Minister,   

2029
01:36:02,882 --> 01:36:05,050
            Patrice Lumumba.         

2030
01:36:05,092 --> 01:36:08,345
               Eisenhower            
     and CIA Director Allen Dulles   

2031
01:36:08,387 --> 01:36:12,850
      favored the European nation    
       in this colonial conflict.    

2032
01:36:12,892 --> 01:36:17,313
    Eisenhower gave the go-ahead    
   to have Lumumba assassinated.    

2033
01:36:18,397 --> 01:36:19,648
      Kennedy never knew this.      

2034
01:36:19,690 --> 01:36:24,445
          He gets elected           
 the following November of 1960,   

2035
01:36:24,487 --> 01:36:27,823
            and he heads            
     in the opposite direction.     

2036
01:36:27,865 --> 01:36:29,742
        To those new states         
          whom we welcome           

2037
01:36:29,784 --> 01:36:32,578
     to the ranks of the free,      

2038
01:36:32,620 --> 01:36:38,584
      we pledge our word that       
    one form of colonial control    

2039
01:36:38,626 --> 01:36:41,420
     shall not have passed away     

2040
01:36:41,462 --> 01:36:46,300
       merely to be replaced        
    by a far more iron tyranny.     

2041
01:36:46,342 --> 01:36:48,636
      [Sutherland]   But events       
         are already in motion.      

2042
01:36:48,677 --> 01:36:52,139
      With the backing of British    
     and US intelligence and arms,   

2043
01:36:52,181 --> 01:36:56,060
      Col. Joseph Mobutu's forces    
       captured President Lumumba    

2044
01:36:56,101 --> 01:36:59,355
            at the beginning         
           of December 1960.         

2045
01:36:59,396 --> 01:37:01,023
         [Richard Mahoney]          
           Dag Hammarskjold,         

2046
01:37:01,065 --> 01:37:04,151
       the UN Secretary General,     
               calls JFK,            

2047
01:37:04,193 --> 01:37:06,445
   uh, who's the President-elect    
           at this point,           

2048
01:37:06,487 --> 01:37:08,239
     and asked him to intercede     

2049
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,116
           to get Lumumba           
       released from prison.        

2050
01:37:11,158 --> 01:37:15,204
            When Kennedy            
    intervenes to save Lumumba,     

2051
01:37:15,246 --> 01:37:18,499
          that's a signal           
        directly to the CIA         

2052
01:37:18,541 --> 01:37:21,710
           that they have to         
     dispatch this guy immediately. 

2053
01:37:21,752 --> 01:37:26,173
     And so 48 hours before Kennedy 
       takes the oath of office,     

2054
01:37:26,215 --> 01:37:29,385
          Lumumba is delivered       
     into the hands of his enemies. 

2055
01:37:29,426 --> 01:37:31,637
             He's taken out          
         and shot in the head.       

2056
01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:34,640
       Kennedy doesn't know this     
          until months later.        

2057
01:37:34,682 --> 01:37:36,016
       Who finally tells him?       

2058
01:37:36,058 --> 01:37:38,686
              The CIA?              
 No, they still keep it a secret. 

2059
01:37:38,727 --> 01:37:42,439
        He's informed by his        
 UN ambassador, Adlai Stevenson.   

2060
01:37:42,481 --> 01:37:45,067
           His face crumples,        
         he's holding his hand,      

2061
01:37:45,109 --> 01:37:47,111
       he's grimacing in anguish,    

2062
01:37:47,152 --> 01:37:51,156
 hearing about the assassination   
          of Patrice Lumumba.        

2063
01:37:51,198 --> 01:37:52,408
            [Sutherland]            
          Within a very short        

2064
01:37:52,449 --> 01:37:54,743
             period of time          
        after the assassination,     

2065
01:37:54,785 --> 01:37:58,956
           Hammarskjold died         
      in a mysterious plane crash.   

2066
01:37:58,998 --> 01:38:00,791
     The photographs show his body   

2067
01:38:00,833 --> 01:38:03,627
            as the only one          
         not burned or charred,      

2068
01:38:03,669 --> 01:38:07,882
       and he had a playing card,    
     reportedly the ace of spades,   

2069
01:38:07,923 --> 01:38:11,886
     stuffed into his shirt collar   
       above the knot of the tie.    

2070
01:38:11,927 --> 01:38:13,929
               There are             
        controversial documents      

2071
01:38:13,971 --> 01:38:15,973
       that indicate Allen Dulles    

2072
01:38:16,015 --> 01:38:18,100
              was involved           
     in the sabotage of the plane.   

2073
01:38:20,603 --> 01:38:22,521
 [Lisa Pease]   John Foster Dulles   
           and Allen Dulles,         

2074
01:38:22,563 --> 01:38:25,024
          they felt, you know,       
          what they had to say       

2075
01:38:25,065 --> 01:38:27,276
            was good enough          
       for the rest of the world,    

2076
01:38:27,318 --> 01:38:29,069
           that they knew           
      more than the President.      

2077
01:38:29,111 --> 01:38:31,155
         There were things          
    they didn't tell Eisenhower     

2078
01:38:31,196 --> 01:38:34,033
        that they were doing        
     under his administration.      

2079
01:38:34,074 --> 01:38:36,160
              [Talbot]              
       And actually, Jack Kennedy    

2080
01:38:36,201 --> 01:38:39,538
        does move     to decapitate     
          the top of the CIA.        

2081
01:38:39,580 --> 01:38:41,790
        He lets it be known         
         that Allen Dulles,         

2082
01:38:41,832 --> 01:38:43,959
 as well as his two top advisers, 

2083
01:38:44,001 --> 01:38:45,461
            Richard Bissell,         

2084
01:38:45,502 --> 01:38:47,922
       who is also very involved     
         with the Bay of Pigs,       

2085
01:38:47,963 --> 01:38:49,673
          and General Cabell,        

2086
01:38:49,715 --> 01:38:52,384
 who was, uh, the right-hand man   
            to Allen Dulles.         

2087
01:38:52,426 --> 01:38:54,553
      So the top three people       
            in the CIA,             

2088
01:38:54,595 --> 01:38:58,432
        Kennedy forces them out      
      before the end of the year.    

2089
01:38:58,474 --> 01:39:01,310
    Have you ever committed any     
   act of violence in your life?    

2090
01:39:04,396 --> 01:39:05,397
                No.                 

2091
01:39:07,441 --> 01:39:09,109
            [Sutherland]            
       The existence of communism    

2092
01:39:09,151 --> 01:39:10,903
      so close to American shores    

2093
01:39:10,945 --> 01:39:13,906
     kept Cuba on Kennedy's plate.   

2094
01:39:13,948 --> 01:39:16,992
     And the Joint Chiefs of Staff   
      presented a plan to Kennedy    

2095
01:39:17,034 --> 01:39:19,161
      called Operation Northwoods,   

2096
01:39:19,203 --> 01:39:21,622
            whereby the CIA          
         would secretly perform      

2097
01:39:21,664 --> 01:39:24,124
             terrorist acts          
          in the United States       

2098
01:39:24,166 --> 01:39:26,126
        and blame them on Castro     

2099
01:39:26,168 --> 01:39:29,338
          to justify bombings        
        and an invasion of Cuba.     

2100
01:39:29,380 --> 01:39:31,340
    And you see all these plans     

2101
01:39:31,382 --> 01:39:33,926
               being sent            
      to McNamara and to Kennedy.    

2102
01:39:33,968 --> 01:39:35,302
              [Horne]               
       "Fake an attack by Cubans     

2103
01:39:35,344 --> 01:39:37,096
              against the            
        Guantanamo Bay sentries.     

2104
01:39:37,137 --> 01:39:39,598
             Sink a US ship          
           in Guantanamo Bay         

2105
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,016
         and blame it on Cuba."      

2106
01:39:41,058 --> 01:39:45,521
 The one that scares me the most   
      was very sophisticated.       

2107
01:39:45,562 --> 01:39:49,566
 Uh, take an airliner and fly it   
        as a drone over Cuba        

2108
01:39:49,608 --> 01:39:50,985
       without any people in it,     

2109
01:39:51,026 --> 01:39:52,319
         with a tape-recording       
            that would play,         

2110
01:39:52,361 --> 01:39:54,029
        "We're under attack         
         by Cuban aircraft!         

2111
01:39:54,071 --> 01:39:55,948
            'Oh, my God,            
     they're going to kill us!"     

2112
01:39:55,990 --> 01:39:57,199
       Blow up the airplane!        

2113
01:39:57,241 --> 01:39:58,951
      Blow up this huge drone       

2114
01:39:58,993 --> 01:40:02,538
    and use that to start a war.    

2115
01:40:02,579 --> 01:40:05,040
     [Sutherland]   The President     
      declined the recommendation.   

2116
01:40:06,333 --> 01:40:08,168
          The Northwoods plan        
            was our big find         

2117
01:40:08,210 --> 01:40:09,878
 in the way of military records.   

2118
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,130
          They are universally       
            recognized today         

2119
01:40:11,171 --> 01:40:12,673
         for their importance.       

2120
01:40:12,715 --> 01:40:14,967
     It's one of those releases     
   that the Review Board members,   

2121
01:40:15,009 --> 01:40:18,137
    the board members themselves    
     were justifiably proud of      

2122
01:40:18,178 --> 01:40:20,139
            that came out of         
          the JFK Records Act.       

2123
01:40:22,266 --> 01:40:24,685
       [Stone]   In addition to       
       the problems with the CIA,    

2124
01:40:24,727 --> 01:40:27,938
 Kennedy's own military advisers   
         started pressuring him      

2125
01:40:27,980 --> 01:40:29,606
       to send troops to Vietnam.    

2126
01:40:29,648 --> 01:40:31,483
             A country that          
          Kennedy had visited        

2127
01:40:31,525 --> 01:40:33,652
            10 years earlier         
           as a Congressman,         

2128
01:40:33,694 --> 01:40:36,238
        and witnessed firsthand      
             how the French          

2129
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:37,865
         were losing their war       

2130
01:40:37,906 --> 01:40:41,243
         against the Viet Minh       
     in the fight for independence. 

2131
01:40:41,285 --> 01:40:42,578
       Once he became President,     

2132
01:40:42,619 --> 01:40:46,123
             Kennedy wanted          
        to avoid the same trap.      

2133
01:40:46,165 --> 01:40:49,501
        The Vietnam decision        
       is finally arrived at,       

2134
01:40:49,543 --> 01:40:51,170
           which is NSAM 111,        

2135
01:40:51,211 --> 01:40:54,006
             where Kennedy           
         says no combat troops       

2136
01:40:54,048 --> 01:40:55,924
 but will increase the advisers.   

2137
01:40:55,966 --> 01:40:58,927
       And that was his decision,    
       in the Kennedy presidency.    

2138
01:40:58,969 --> 01:41:01,513
       never to cross that line.     

2139
01:41:03,474 --> 01:41:05,934
     [Sutherland]   Near the end      
      of his first year in office,   

2140
01:41:05,976 --> 01:41:07,561
       Kennedy received a report     

2141
01:41:07,603 --> 01:41:10,272
            from Walt Rostow         
      and General Maxwell Taylor,    

2142
01:41:10,314 --> 01:41:12,399
           his foreign policy        
         and military advisers,      

2143
01:41:12,441 --> 01:41:13,942
              that called            
         for increased training      

2144
01:41:13,984 --> 01:41:16,070
      of South Vietnamese troops,    

2145
01:41:16,111 --> 01:41:17,946
           increased bombings        
             of the North,           

2146
01:41:17,988 --> 01:41:21,116
              and the use            
          of US combat troops.       

2147
01:41:21,158 --> 01:41:22,785
             The influence           
        on Kennedy's reluctance      

2148
01:41:22,826 --> 01:41:24,787
      to committing ground troops    

2149
01:41:24,828 --> 01:41:28,791
      was his ambassador to India,   
        John Kenneth Galbraith.      

2150
01:41:28,832 --> 01:41:31,835
   [James K. Galbraith]   My father   
     went to see, uh, Walt Rostow.   

2151
01:41:31,877 --> 01:41:33,462
       He went in to talk to him.    

2152
01:41:33,504 --> 01:41:37,299
    Rostow gestured on his desk     
    to the, uh, pile of papers.     

2153
01:41:37,341 --> 01:41:40,594
      The Rostow Taylor report      
        was plainly visible.        

2154
01:41:40,636 --> 01:41:42,596
   Uh, my father asked to see it.   

2155
01:41:42,638 --> 01:41:44,473
           Walt said that           
    his security classification     

2156
01:41:44,515 --> 01:41:46,517
       wasn't sufficiently high.     

2157
01:41:46,558 --> 01:41:48,227
      My father did not think that   

2158
01:41:48,268 --> 01:41:51,688
           Walt Rostow's            
      security classification       
        was higher than his.        

2159
01:41:51,730 --> 01:41:54,566
    Uh, and at the given moment,    
        uh, the phone rang.         

2160
01:41:54,608 --> 01:41:56,610
          Walt turned to--          
        to answer the phone         

2161
01:41:56,652 --> 01:41:58,779
           and-- and Dad            
        picked up the report        

2162
01:41:58,821 --> 01:42:01,824
             and walked out          
       of the office and read it.    

2163
01:42:01,865 --> 01:42:03,992
        [Sutherland]   Kennedy        
        sent Galbraith to Saigon     

2164
01:42:04,034 --> 01:42:07,079
      to write a report that would   
     differ in its recommendations   

2165
01:42:07,121 --> 01:42:11,125
      from what Taylor and Rostow    
           had given to him.         

2166
01:42:11,166 --> 01:42:12,751
      Kennedy knew what he wanted    

2167
01:42:12,793 --> 01:42:14,419
     and he knew what my father     
    would deliver, which he did,    

2168
01:42:14,461 --> 01:42:17,089
        which is a very detailed     
          and skeptical report       

2169
01:42:17,131 --> 01:42:19,842
      about the efficiency of the    
      South Vietnamese government,   

2170
01:42:19,883 --> 01:42:23,178
           about the capacity        
         of any military force       

2171
01:42:23,220 --> 01:42:25,681
             to prevail in           
         the security situation      

2172
01:42:25,722 --> 01:42:28,517
         that was in existence       
     in South Vietnam at that time. 

2173
01:42:28,559 --> 01:42:30,185
            [Sutherland]            
         Kennedy told Galbraith      

2174
01:42:30,227 --> 01:42:33,689
        to deliver his report to     
      Defense Secretary McNamara,    

2175
01:42:33,730 --> 01:42:35,858
                and he,              
       in turn, gave instructions    

2176
01:42:35,899 --> 01:42:39,027
        to begin the withdrawal      
          to General Harkins,        

2177
01:42:39,069 --> 01:42:42,614
         the commanding General      
       of all forces in Vietnam.     

2178
01:42:42,656 --> 01:42:45,784
     The Pentagon dragged its feet   
         on formulating plans,       

2179
01:42:45,826 --> 01:42:50,706
        and McNamara called for      
       a meeting in May of 1963.     

2180
01:42:50,747 --> 01:42:53,792
 One of the most important finds   
          of the Review Board        

2181
01:42:53,834 --> 01:42:56,295
             are the notes           
           from this meeting.        

2182
01:42:56,336 --> 01:42:58,297
       [Horne]   McNamara said,       
         "It's not fast enough.      

2183
01:42:58,338 --> 01:42:59,715
     I want you to accelerate it."   

2184
01:42:59,756 --> 01:43:02,092
              He says,              
   "I want to pull out 1,000 men,   

2185
01:43:02,134 --> 01:43:04,303
          uh, in December           
      by the end of the year.       

2186
01:43:04,344 --> 01:43:06,388
      "And I want you to pull out    

2187
01:43:06,430 --> 01:43:08,473
            complete units,          
         not just individuals."      

2188
01:43:08,515 --> 01:43:10,893
      He wanted units to come out.   

2189
01:43:10,934 --> 01:43:13,562
            [Sutherland]            
       After the withdrawal plan     
             was approved,           

2190
01:43:13,604 --> 01:43:16,023
              Kennedy sent           
     Secretary of Defense McNamara   

2191
01:43:16,064 --> 01:43:20,569
           and General Taylor        
     to Saigon in September of '63. 

2192
01:43:20,611 --> 01:43:23,405
          He planned on using        
       their report as the basis     

2193
01:43:23,447 --> 01:43:26,533
           to formally order         
        the withdrawal to begin.     

2194
01:43:26,575 --> 01:43:28,410
     Kennedy controlled the report, 

2195
01:43:28,452 --> 01:43:30,037
              since it was           
         actually being written      

2196
01:43:30,078 --> 01:43:33,248
         under the supervision       
           of Bobby Kennedy.         

2197
01:43:33,290 --> 01:43:34,917
              [Newman]              
           Three days later,         

2198
01:43:34,958 --> 01:43:36,501
             that leaks out          
          into the newspapers.       

2199
01:43:36,543 --> 01:43:39,087
      Then his opponents find out.   

2200
01:43:39,129 --> 01:43:40,881
           And McGeorge Bundy        
      says to Kennedy, "Hey, look,   

2201
01:43:40,923 --> 01:43:42,424
      "if they're talking about it   
           in the newspapers,        

2202
01:43:42,466 --> 01:43:43,800
            we might as well         
           put it on paper."         

2203
01:43:43,842 --> 01:43:46,053
            And they put it,         
          and it was NSAM 263.       

2204
01:43:46,094 --> 01:43:49,306
         And that's how it was       
       actually written and why.     

2205
01:43:49,348 --> 01:43:51,266
     Well, here's one of the things 

2206
01:43:51,308 --> 01:43:52,893
           McNamara said            
       in the secret debrief.       

2207
01:43:52,935 --> 01:43:56,438
      He said, "We had agreed,      
        the President and I,        

2208
01:43:56,480 --> 01:43:58,315
       "that we had trained them,    

2209
01:43:58,357 --> 01:44:00,150
           "we had given them        
          everything we could.       

2210
01:44:00,192 --> 01:44:02,778
       "And if they couldn't win,    
                too bad.             

2211
01:44:02,819 --> 01:44:06,823
     We had to get out even if      
 they were going to be defeated." 

2212
01:44:06,865 --> 01:44:10,369
      So McNamara and Kennedy had    
     decided that they were willing 

2213
01:44:10,410 --> 01:44:13,455
       to pull out of Vietnam       
       in a losing scenario.        

2214
01:44:13,497 --> 01:44:14,623
       That's very important.       

2215
01:44:15,958 --> 01:44:18,627
        But later in that month,     
            McGeorge Bundy,          

2216
01:44:18,669 --> 01:44:21,255
           who's the National        
           Security Adviser,         

2217
01:44:21,296 --> 01:44:23,257
          puts together a memo       

2218
01:44:23,298 --> 01:44:25,384
          based upon the--          
      the truth about the war,      

2219
01:44:25,425 --> 01:44:27,552
   which is just going terribly.    

2220
01:44:27,594 --> 01:44:30,764
        And he does it in a way      
          to try and make sure       

2221
01:44:30,806 --> 01:44:32,891
     that Kennedy would be able     
       to go along with this.       

2222
01:44:32,933 --> 01:44:34,476
            [Sutherland]            
          This is reflected in       

2223
01:44:34,518 --> 01:44:36,728
         the National Security       
           Action Memorandum:        

2224
01:44:36,770 --> 01:44:39,606
               NSAM 273.             

2225
01:44:39,648 --> 01:44:42,859
   [Newman]   The way Bundy writes    
         the first draft of 273      

2226
01:44:42,901 --> 01:44:44,486
               is to say,            
      "Look, we need to intensify    

2227
01:44:44,528 --> 01:44:47,364
            "the war effort          
        against the communists.      

2228
01:44:47,406 --> 01:44:49,283
            "But the way            
        we're going to do it        

2229
01:44:49,324 --> 01:44:51,952
           is to increase           
     South Vietnamese forces."      

2230
01:44:51,994 --> 01:44:54,454
         There's not a word         
       about American forces        

2231
01:44:54,496 --> 01:44:56,164
     or Americanizing the war.      

2232
01:44:58,834 --> 01:45:01,044
          While Kennedy's body       
         is still in the casket      

2233
01:45:01,086 --> 01:45:03,588
             in the rotunda          
     over in the Capitol building,   

2234
01:45:03,630 --> 01:45:07,968
 is when Johnson changes NSAM 273 
         to a new version.          

2235
01:45:08,010 --> 01:45:10,512
         And when it comes          
       to the key paragraph,        

2236
01:45:10,554 --> 01:45:12,347
            paragraph seven,         
         which just talks about      

2237
01:45:12,389 --> 01:45:14,975
            how we're going          
         to intensify the war,       

2238
01:45:15,017 --> 01:45:16,518
 instead of changing a few words, 

2239
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,813
     there's two big hash marks     
      through that paragraph,       

2240
01:45:19,855 --> 01:45:21,440
     and it's completely rewritten. 

2241
01:45:21,481 --> 01:45:22,858
              And I said--           
     I asked Bundy in an interview, 

2242
01:45:22,899 --> 01:45:24,651
                I said,              
       "Who told you to do that?"    

2243
01:45:24,693 --> 01:45:26,361
        He said, "Johnson did."      

2244
01:45:26,403 --> 01:45:27,946
            [Sutherland]            
      These changes allowed the US   

2245
01:45:27,988 --> 01:45:31,033
         to unilaterally engage      
          in combat in Vietnam       

2246
01:45:31,074 --> 01:45:33,327
           rather than simply        
        supporting and advising      

2247
01:45:33,368 --> 01:45:34,870
        South Vietnamese troops.     

2248
01:45:35,829 --> 01:45:37,622
          And within days,          

2249
01:45:37,664 --> 01:45:40,792
        we're talking about         
 sending out the DESOTO missions. 

2250
01:45:40,834 --> 01:45:43,462
     These-- These naval excursions 

2251
01:45:43,503 --> 01:45:46,465
          along the coastline        
            of North Vietnam         

2252
01:45:46,506 --> 01:45:49,176
      that ends up with    The Maddox 

2253
01:45:49,217 --> 01:45:51,678
       and the, and the so-called    
          Tonkin Gulf attacks.       

2254
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,722
              And then              
     the resolution in Congress     

2255
01:45:53,764 --> 01:45:56,808
          opening the door          
    to intervention in Vietnam.     

2256
01:45:56,850 --> 01:45:59,478
     [Sutherland]   In the Review     
       Board's declassifications,    

2257
01:45:59,519 --> 01:46:01,772
            there's evidence         
      that Johnson was fully aware   

2258
01:46:01,813 --> 01:46:04,149
              of Kennedy's           
       Vietnam withdrawal plans,     

2259
01:46:04,191 --> 01:46:05,817
          disagreed with them,       

2260
01:46:05,859 --> 01:46:08,737
     and worked on Robert McNamara   
       to make him renounce them.    

2261
01:46:09,696 --> 01:46:11,531
    [Lyndon B. Johnson speaking]    

2262
01:46:20,707 --> 01:46:23,126
           In retaliation           
        for this unprovoked         

2263
01:46:23,168 --> 01:46:25,629
      attack on the high seas,      

2264
01:46:25,670 --> 01:46:27,839
               our forces            
         have struck the bases       

2265
01:46:27,881 --> 01:46:31,885
      used     by the North Vietnamese 
             patrol craft.           

2266
01:46:31,927 --> 01:46:34,179
            [Sutherland]            
          And as declassified        
          memos     have revealed,      

2267
01:46:34,221 --> 01:46:35,889
           by autumn of 1964,        

2268
01:46:35,931 --> 01:46:38,600
          during his campaign        
        against Barry Goldwater,     

2269
01:46:38,642 --> 01:46:40,727
      Johnson had already decided    

2270
01:46:40,769 --> 01:46:43,772
           that he was going         
      to escalate the Vietnam War.   

2271
01:46:43,814 --> 01:46:45,399
         In fact, the directive      
           that would become         

2272
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:47,192
       the Tonkin Gulf Resolution    

2273
01:46:47,234 --> 01:46:51,488
      had been written before the    
      Tonkin Gulf Incident itself.   

2274
01:46:51,530 --> 01:46:53,281
              Three months           
          before the election,       

2275
01:46:53,323 --> 01:46:56,910
      Johnson had already planned    
       for an extensive air war.     

2276
01:46:56,952 --> 01:46:59,746
            It was to begin          
        after his inauguration.      

2277
01:47:01,373 --> 01:47:05,585
        [Johnson]   We intend         
       to convince the communists    

2278
01:47:05,627 --> 01:47:10,549
       that we cannot be defeated    
            by force of arms         

2279
01:47:10,590 --> 01:47:12,634
         or by superior power.       

2280
01:47:17,514 --> 01:47:19,558
         [Pease]   When news          
        came of Kennedy's death,     

2281
01:47:19,599 --> 01:47:21,977
          all over the planet,       
          people were mourning       

2282
01:47:22,018 --> 01:47:24,813
               and crying            
        and going to embassies.      

2283
01:47:24,855 --> 01:47:27,149
           In Latin America,         
      the people just lit candles    

2284
01:47:27,190 --> 01:47:29,568
      because they didn't even      
       have electrical power,       

2285
01:47:29,609 --> 01:47:31,111
          but they wanted           
       to honor his killing.        

2286
01:47:31,153 --> 01:47:32,904
     In the Yucatan Peninsula,      

2287
01:47:32,946 --> 01:47:36,783
      peasants cleared an area      
    and planted a peace garden.     

2288
01:47:36,825 --> 01:47:38,452
    [Philip Muehlenbeck]   Nasser     
       learned of Kennedy's death    

2289
01:47:38,493 --> 01:47:40,912
      in the middle of the night.    
          He got up, dressed,        

2290
01:47:40,954 --> 01:47:43,540
      went down to his office,      
         and then realized,         

2291
01:47:43,582 --> 01:47:45,625
       "Well, there's nothing       
       I can do about this."        

2292
01:47:45,667 --> 01:47:48,170
         According to his son,       
           Nasser went to a--        

2293
01:47:48,211 --> 01:47:51,298
      a great state of depression    
         after Kennedy's death.      

2294
01:47:51,339 --> 01:47:54,759
        Uh, relations with Egypt     
        gradually deteriorated,      

2295
01:47:54,801 --> 01:47:57,679
     and they increasingly shifted   
            their allegiance         

2296
01:47:57,721 --> 01:47:59,473
        towards the Soviet Union     
                as well.             

2297
01:47:59,514 --> 01:48:03,226
   A mass was held in the leading   
     Catholic Church in Cairo,      

2298
01:48:03,268 --> 01:48:05,395
    which has a capacity of 600.    

2299
01:48:05,437 --> 01:48:09,065
     They somehow fit 4,000 people   
           into that church.         

2300
01:48:09,107 --> 01:48:11,735
           Algeria, which had        
      special feeling for Kennedy,   

2301
01:48:11,776 --> 01:48:13,945
            declared a state         
        of mourning for a week.      

2302
01:48:13,987 --> 01:48:17,365
         Flags were flown,          
         uh, at half mast.          

2303
01:48:17,407 --> 01:48:20,035
 The US ambassador to Egypt said   

2304
01:48:20,076 --> 01:48:22,913
     that he thought the Egyptians   
          had seen in Kennedy        

2305
01:48:22,954 --> 01:48:24,831
            the best of what         
         they saw in Americans.      

2306
01:48:24,873 --> 01:48:28,084
    That Kennedy had represented    
     a kind of ideal of America     

2307
01:48:28,126 --> 01:48:30,212
       to ordinary Egyptians.       

2308
01:48:30,253 --> 01:48:32,172
      [Sutherland]   Castro got       
      the news of Kennedy's death    

2309
01:48:32,214 --> 01:48:33,965
        while discussing   détente     

2310
01:48:34,007 --> 01:48:36,593
       with     the French journalist   
              Jean Daniel.           

2311
01:48:36,635 --> 01:48:39,971
           He then exclaimed,        
           "This is bad news.        

2312
01:48:40,013 --> 01:48:41,973
           Everything is now         
           going to change."         

2313
01:48:44,392 --> 01:48:47,145
        When Khrushchev paid his     
     respects to President Kennedy   

2314
01:48:47,187 --> 01:48:49,731
        at the American embassy,     

2315
01:48:49,773 --> 01:48:52,484
           he was reportedly         
          holding back tears.        

2316
01:48:54,069 --> 01:48:56,988
          Robert Kennedy knew        
 that after his brother's death,   

2317
01:48:57,030 --> 01:49:01,451
 relations with the Soviet Union   
          hung in the balance.       

2318
01:49:01,493 --> 01:49:07,415
   My father, he wanted to convey   
 a message to Premier Khrushchev   

2319
01:49:07,457 --> 01:49:09,167
      saying that our family knew    

2320
01:49:09,209 --> 01:49:12,963
       that the Soviets were not     
     involved in the assassination. 

2321
01:49:13,004 --> 01:49:17,384
   That it was a right-wing plot    
       from our own country.        

2322
01:49:17,425 --> 01:49:19,553
      In other words, the CIA,      

2323
01:49:19,594 --> 01:49:21,888
 or forces aligned with the CIA.   

2324
01:49:21,930 --> 01:49:24,766
      [Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]       
     The day that his brother died, 

2325
01:49:24,808 --> 01:49:27,852
      my father's first phone call   

2326
01:49:27,894 --> 01:49:32,983
           was to the CIA           
      desk officer at Langley       

2327
01:49:33,024 --> 01:49:38,947
    and he asked them, "Did your    
    people conduct this horror?"    

2328
01:49:41,074 --> 01:49:43,702
              [Talbot]              
 We know from how Bobby operated   

2329
01:49:43,743 --> 01:49:47,539
           that terrible day,        
          November 22nd, 1963,       

2330
01:49:47,581 --> 01:49:50,333
            at his home in,          
         uh, McLean, Virginia,       

2331
01:49:50,375 --> 01:49:55,255
   that he immediately suspected    
    there was not a lone gunman.    

2332
01:49:55,297 --> 01:49:56,881
          Why do we know this?       

2333
01:49:56,923 --> 01:49:59,926
     Because he was being told      
       by his closest aides,        

2334
01:49:59,968 --> 01:50:02,470
      people like Kenny O'Donnell    
            and Dave Powers,         

2335
01:50:02,512 --> 01:50:03,972
       who were in the limousine     

2336
01:50:04,014 --> 01:50:06,683
           immediately behind        
     President Kennedy's limousine. 

2337
01:50:06,725 --> 01:50:08,560
           They were both           
       World War II veterans.       

2338
01:50:08,602 --> 01:50:11,146
               They knew             
       what gunfire sounded like.    

2339
01:50:11,187 --> 01:50:13,189
      They reported it to him       
            that gunfire            

2340
01:50:13,231 --> 01:50:15,483
         had not just come          
        from the-- the rear.        

2341
01:50:15,525 --> 01:50:17,360
              It had come            
         from different sides.       

2342
01:50:17,402 --> 01:50:19,779
           There was gunfire         
        from the front as well.      

2343
01:50:19,821 --> 01:50:22,240
          It was a crossfire.        

2344
01:50:22,282 --> 01:50:25,118
           [Kennedy Jr.]            
        I was in the East Room,      

2345
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:29,456
    with my dad and with Jackie     
    and a couple of my siblings,    

2346
01:50:29,497 --> 01:50:31,791
      and Lyndon Johnson came in,    

2347
01:50:31,833 --> 01:50:34,753
 and told the adults in the room   

2348
01:50:34,794 --> 01:50:37,631
       that Lee Harvey Oswald       
          had been killed,          

2349
01:50:37,672 --> 01:50:41,092
      and that a man had shot him.   

2350
01:50:41,134 --> 01:50:44,638
      And I said to my dad and mom   
             at that time,           

2351
01:50:44,679 --> 01:50:46,097
       "Why did he shoot him?       

2352
01:50:46,139 --> 01:50:48,642
              Did he--              
      Did he love our family?"      

2353
01:50:48,683 --> 01:50:50,268
      And the way that they acted    

2354
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:52,979
           was that this only        
        compounded the tragedy.      

2355
01:50:54,564 --> 01:50:55,940
            [Sutherland]            
          Many people at home        

2356
01:50:55,982 --> 01:50:57,692
            felt that after          
            Kennedy's death,         

2357
01:50:57,734 --> 01:51:01,863
       a period of depression and    
     cynicism overtook the country, 

2358
01:51:01,905 --> 01:51:05,533
            and that America         
      was somehow changed forever.   

2359
01:51:05,575 --> 01:51:07,202
       Our overwhelming disbelief    

2360
01:51:07,243 --> 01:51:08,953
             in the Warren           
         Commission's findings       

2361
01:51:08,995 --> 01:51:11,539
             contributed to          
          increased skepticism       

2362
01:51:11,581 --> 01:51:14,209
 of all our foundational beliefs   
           about government.         

2363
01:51:17,003 --> 01:51:20,131
     But I think Allen Dulles'      
           appointment to           
       the Warren Commission        

2364
01:51:20,173 --> 01:51:23,301
       is one of the great frauds    
          of American history.       

2365
01:51:23,343 --> 01:51:26,221
     I don't think that even if     
    you had 10 more commissions,    

2366
01:51:26,262 --> 01:51:27,764
            you'd never             
       get away from the idea       

2367
01:51:27,806 --> 01:51:29,349
    that maybe there was a plot.    

2368
01:51:29,391 --> 01:51:31,726
           We just didn't           
       find any traces of it.       

2369
01:51:31,768 --> 01:51:34,229
        What really happened        
       with Allen Dulles was        

2370
01:51:34,270 --> 01:51:37,357
      the CIA lobbied to have       
     him put on the Commission,     

2371
01:51:37,399 --> 01:51:40,068
     'cause they needed to have one 
     of their own on the Commission 

2372
01:51:40,110 --> 01:51:44,197
           to make sure that         
     certain doors remained closed. 

2373
01:51:44,239 --> 01:51:49,953
 I think there's a direct thread   
     between the events of 1963     

2374
01:51:49,994 --> 01:51:52,205
    and the kind of horror show     

2375
01:51:52,247 --> 01:51:56,292
       that America is having       
        to endure right now.        

2376
01:51:56,334 --> 01:51:59,170
            And I think once         
          you kill     a President      

2377
01:51:59,212 --> 01:52:01,047
        in broad daylight on the     
      streets of an American city,   

2378
01:52:01,089 --> 01:52:03,717
           and everyone knows        
      that powerful forces did it,   

2379
01:52:03,758 --> 01:52:07,595
        that sends a signal not      
      only to the American people,   

2380
01:52:07,637 --> 01:52:11,349
       but to the American media,    
 to the American future leaders.   

2381
01:52:11,391 --> 01:52:14,352
    And if America really wants     
       a democratic society,        

2382
01:52:14,394 --> 01:52:17,856
 then we should get to the bottom 
      of this traumatic crime       

2383
01:52:17,897 --> 01:52:21,276
   that continues to reverberate    
    throughout American history.    

2384
01:52:21,317 --> 01:52:24,696
       They poll historians,        
   they poll the American people,   

2385
01:52:24,738 --> 01:52:27,574
      and they say, "Who were       
   the most popular Presidents?"    

2386
01:52:27,615 --> 01:52:29,451
          Well, one metric          
          that you can use          

2387
01:52:29,492 --> 01:52:33,872
     to objectively-- at least      
     judge the foreign policy,      

2388
01:52:33,913 --> 01:52:36,291
 is how many boulevards are named 

2389
01:52:36,332 --> 01:52:38,793
        after that President        
       in foreign countries?        

2390
01:52:38,835 --> 01:52:42,547
      How many hospitals, how many   
      colleges,     how many schools?   

2391
01:52:42,589 --> 01:52:47,051
         How many statues are--      
   are standing     of that President 

2392
01:52:47,093 --> 01:52:48,970
 in capitals all over the world?   

2393
01:52:49,012 --> 01:52:51,055
         And in that sense,         
         President Kennedy          

2394
01:52:51,097 --> 01:52:53,767
    beats every other President,    
            hands down.             

2395
01:52:56,811 --> 01:52:58,438
              [Stone]               
       Although many of Kennedy's    

2396
01:52:58,480 --> 01:53:00,648
              progressive            
        and unprecedented goals      

2397
01:53:00,690 --> 01:53:05,862
       and changes in policy were    
 undone after his assassination,   

2398
01:53:05,904 --> 01:53:09,491
      a few powerful ones remain.    

2399
01:53:09,532 --> 01:53:11,284
    I think Mr. Kennedy has done    

2400
01:53:11,326 --> 01:53:13,953
      some significant things       
          in civil rights,          

2401
01:53:13,995 --> 01:53:16,498
          and I would include        
         the Attorney General.       

2402
01:53:16,539 --> 01:53:21,461
       I think both of these men     
      are men of genuine goodwill.   

2403
01:53:21,503 --> 01:53:24,339
          And, uh, I think          
      there is a necessity now      

2404
01:53:24,380 --> 01:53:26,925
         to see the urgency         
           of the moment.           

2405
01:53:29,511 --> 01:53:32,430
        I'm asking from you         
      an unequivocal assurance      

2406
01:53:32,472 --> 01:53:35,433
      that you will not bar entry    
           to these students,        

2407
01:53:35,475 --> 01:53:37,602
           and that you will         
         step aside peacefully,      

2408
01:53:37,644 --> 01:53:40,188
      do your constitutional duty.   

2409
01:53:40,230 --> 01:53:42,857
        [Stone]   In showdowns        
         using federal troops,       

2410
01:53:42,899 --> 01:53:46,152
     the Kennedy administration won 
      admission of Black students    

2411
01:53:46,194 --> 01:53:49,531
      to the last public colleges    
             in the south.           

2412
01:53:49,572 --> 01:53:52,575
      George Wallace made it clear   
     that this fight was not over.   

2413
01:53:52,617 --> 01:53:56,329
        And the-- the South         
       this year-- next year        

2414
01:53:56,371 --> 01:53:58,748
          will decide who           
       the next President is,       

2415
01:53:58,790 --> 01:54:01,167
    whoever the South votes for     
       will be the President.       

2416
01:54:01,209 --> 01:54:03,127
        And you're gonna see        
           that the South           

2417
01:54:03,169 --> 01:54:06,047
           is going to be           
        against some folks.         

2418
01:54:06,089 --> 01:54:08,299
        [Stone]   That night,         
      Kennedy addressed the nation   

2419
01:54:08,341 --> 01:54:10,385
              in what many           
          consider the finest        

2420
01:54:10,426 --> 01:54:12,720
          Presidential speech        
            on civil rights          

2421
01:54:12,762 --> 01:54:14,472
         since Abraham Lincoln.      

2422
01:54:14,514 --> 01:54:17,475
     ...and that the rights of      
      every man are diminished      

2423
01:54:17,517 --> 01:54:20,562
          when the rights           
     of one man are threatened.     

2424
01:54:20,603 --> 01:54:24,232
          If an American,           
    because his skin is dark...     

2425
01:54:24,274 --> 01:54:29,404
     cannot enjoy the full and free 
       life which all of us want,    

2426
01:54:29,445 --> 01:54:31,656
           then who among us         
            would be content         

2427
01:54:31,698 --> 01:54:34,993
           to have the color         
          of his skin changed?       

2428
01:54:35,034 --> 01:54:37,871
     One hundred years of delay     
            have passed             

2429
01:54:37,912 --> 01:54:41,165
      since President Lincoln       
         freed the slaves,          

2430
01:54:41,207 --> 01:54:45,461
       yet their heirs, their       
   grandsons, are not fully free.   

2431
01:54:45,503 --> 01:54:50,550
        And this nation, for all     
     its hopes     and all its boasts, 

2432
01:54:50,592 --> 01:54:54,721
      will not be fully free until   
       all its citizens are free.    

2433
01:54:54,762 --> 01:54:56,180
          We face, therefore,        

2434
01:54:56,222 --> 01:54:58,474
             a moral crisis          
       as a country and a people,    

2435
01:54:58,516 --> 01:55:00,476
        and this is a matter        
           which concerns           

2436
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            this country            
      and what it stands for.       

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    And in meeting it, I ask the    
 support of all of our citizens.   

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        Thank you very much.        

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       [somber music playing]       

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