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[dramatic music playing]

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[audience cheering]

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[audience chanting]
Britney! Britney! Britney!

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Britney! Britney! Britney!

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[crowd screaming]

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Britney! Britney! Britney!

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Britney! Britney! Britney!

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Britney! Britney! Britney!

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Britney! Britney! Britney!

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[pensive music playing]

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[Britney] When I was 8,
my mom realized I could sing.

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I've always wanted to sing.

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It's just something
I've always wanted to do.

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Five, six, seven, eight, nine…

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[woman 1] It's not just luck.
Everybody needs a little bit of luck.

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But it's literally an Olympian level

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of talent and hard work
that goes into that.

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[woman 2] Everything about her
was strong and fearless.

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I mean, there was no stopping her.

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[woman 3] It all exploded
after Britney became famous.

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[woman 4] Suddenly,
she was spiraling out of control,

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and it was clear she was having a crisis.

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[reporter] Are you concerned
for your daughter, Mr. Spears?

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[woman 4] What began
as temporary control over her life

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and her money and her business
became permanent.

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[woman 3] They felt they had to do it
to protect Britney.

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[man 1]
Britney is no longer a free person.

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[woman 2]
She doesn't have basic human rights.

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She can't write a check
or have a credit card.

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[man 2] If she doesn't behave,
she loses custody of her kids.

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[man 3] There's other people that've tried
to help. They've paid a heavy price.

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[woman 2] She is limited
on how she can voice her wishes.

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[Britney] I just want my life back.
And it's been 13 years and it's enough.

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[video call ringing]

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All right, so let's do
our least favorite thing in the world,

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which just means
calling random strangers and saying,

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"Hey, can you talk to me
about Britney Spears?"

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[line ringing]

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[voicemail beeps]

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Hi, Kim, my name is Erin Lee Carr,
and I'm a documentary filmmaker.

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I'm directing a project about Britney.

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Two years ago, I began making
a movie about Britney Spears

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with journalist Jenny Eliscu.

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-[voicemail beeps]
-Hey, this is Jenny Eliscu.

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I'm not sure if you remember me
from, uh, years ago.

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We met when I was working
on a Rolling Stone article about Britney.

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[Carr] The movie was going to be about
her artistry and the media portrayal.

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And can someone say wow
to those dance moves?

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[emotional music playing]

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But the story was also about power
and control.

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Full of conspiracy and rumors.

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And no one would talk.

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Until they did.

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I was 10 when Britney came on the scene.

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I remember grabbing the CD with a flower
on it that's Baby One More Time

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and putting it into my boombox.

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["Sometimes" playing]

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You know, my dad would knock on the door.

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And he said, "Why are you listening
to this over and over again?"

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-["…Baby One More Time" playing]
-I was obsessed.

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♪ Hit me, baby, one more time ♪

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[audience cheering]

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[all] Britney! Britney!

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I love her.

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[Carr] At 16 years old, Britney was
a sensation and she was no one-hit wonder.

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From 1998 to 2003, her worldwide
record sales totaled over $73 million.

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Britney had a work ethic like none other,

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but she's never been motivated by money.

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She just was doing something she loved.

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[woman 5] She was in control
and involved in every process.

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I'm open to ideas. If they come up with
something better, then heck, I'll do it.

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[woman 5] She was like, "I'm the boss.
I'm gonna do what I want."

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You can see,
like, that girl is just on fire.

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♪ I'm a slave for you ♪

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[Britney] The best thing about
being famous is knowing that, financially,

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I'll be able to support my family,
no matter what.

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[woman] Britney Spears!

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[Carr] By 2004, she was one of the biggest
selling female artists of her generation.

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Hit after hit.

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The world couldn't get enough of Britney.

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[camera shutters clicking]

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Then, suddenly,
Britney stopped making music.

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She fell in love with a backup dancer,
Kevin Federline.

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On a transatlantic flight,
Britney proposed to Kevin.

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They got married
and quickly had two children.

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But two years later, the marriage was over
and Britney had filed for divorce.

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It's the biggest news in the country,
ladies and gentlemen.

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Britney Spears is leaving K-Fed!

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[all cheering]

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Confetti!

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[Carr] Britney was out on the town,
looking as confident as ever.

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Now hopefully,
with her divorce almost finalized,

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she would get back to performing for us.

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But what seemed like the beginning
of her regaining control…

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was really the end.

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[pensive music playing]

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The very first time
I was assigned Britney,

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she was in the middle
of this divorce with Kevin.

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I was working for an agency, okay?

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They gave me the address.
They said, "Sit outside the house."

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"When she comes out, follow her."

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My job was to take pictures of her, right?

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That period, I was a photographer,
and, you know, I was good at it.

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I excelled
and I learned the job real quick.

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[paparazzi yelling]

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This is a job for adrenaline junkies
and those with a gambling addiction.

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There's nothing sexier
than waking up and they say,

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"This is your assignment."

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You open it up and don't know who it is.

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Male, female,
actor, singer, sports celebrity.

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So, as a photographer,

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you can get a few hundred thousand dollars
for a picture of Britney.

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[Eliscu] At the time of the divorce,

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Britney was relentlessly chased
by the paparazzi.

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At the same time,
she had friendships with some of them.

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[Ghalib] Beautiful.

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One night, the agency calls me

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and tells me
the gas station that Britney's at.

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I drive down there.

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At the gas station,
everyone's taking pictures.

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Twenty dollars' worth of gas.

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[Ghalib] She was having problems
with the gas.

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You want me to fill it?

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I asked Britney, "Can I help you?"

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So I start doing it.

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And then, one day a photographer calls me
and says, "Britney's asking for you."

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"What do you mean, she's asking for me?"

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Then another photographer calls me
who doesn't know the first photographer.

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And he's like,
"Hey, bro. Britney's asking for you."

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-Where's--? You, come here.
-[man] Back it up.

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[Ghalib] She felt better if I was present.
She felt safer.

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Those are her words, not mine.

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[whispering] Where's Adnan?

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[man] He's off.

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He's out today.

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I'll let him know.

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[Ghalib] It was a very simple,
very easy relationship, you know?

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But between her fans and everybody else,
it was like I was the bad guy.

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Oh, my Lord.

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[Ghalib] Like that Disney story,
you always want the Prince Charming to be

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as equally as attractive and equally
as beautiful and equally as charming.

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We didn't have that balance.

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There was this multimillionaire and me.

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[indistinct chatter]

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And then there was this famous girl,
and then there was me.

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There was this white girl,
and there was me.

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There were nights where she was up

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and I had to stay up with her,
and it's hard.

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To stay up for three days, it's hard,

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but you have that fear,
it's a very real fear,

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that if anything happens to her,

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they're just gonna blame you.
It's just so much easier to blame you.

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She was taking Adderall.

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I'm sure x-amount of millions of people
are taking Adderall.

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But these are the things
that become volatile and deadly weapons

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when you're going through
a child custody case.

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[woman] Hi, Adnan, how are you?

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Are you okay? Are you guys in love?

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[dramatic music playing]

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[Ghalib] What was apparent to me
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was, you know, she never had one person
she could trust, not one.

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Not Mom, not Dad,
not friends, not her sister.

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Anybody.

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And that's a very scary, dark place to be.

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[dramatic music playing]

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The hearing this afternoon had to do
with a continued interim,

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or temporary order,

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that was based on Mr. Federline's
original request to modify custody.

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[man] Hold on. Hey, hey.
Get back. Get back, sir.

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-[man 1] You guys have got to get back.
-[man 2] Britney!

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[man 3] We love you, Britney!

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[Carr] By 2007, Britney's divorce
from Kevin was heating up.

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What many thought would be a simple case,
guided by a strong prenuptial agreement,

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now seemed to be in question.

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Ironclad prenup's a little bit like
the Titanic could never sink.

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For every ironclad prenup,
there's a group of attorneys out there

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that will try to tear it apart.

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[Eliscu] Mark Vincent Kaplan,
he's the K-Fed lawyer.

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He's like this kind of old guard,
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you might call
in a contentious divorce custody case.

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He seemed to love being the spokesperson

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for this high-profile divorce
and custody case.

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And he definitely has a flair
for making a public statement.

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The ultimate attack is,
how are the children doing?

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How safe are the children?

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The kids become just pawns.

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Kevin is concerned that the more time
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he feels the more insulated
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risks that would otherwise be
constantly visited upon them.

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People that care about the children
will provide information

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that is relevant to their best interest.

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There's nothing new, no new facts,
there's not an emergency?

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All of those things are true.

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I'd represented high-profile people
and celebrities before,

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but this was an order of magnitude far
different than anything I'd experienced.

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And I had to hit the deck running
and learn how to work with the media

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so that they weren't working
against my client.

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Kevin had been treated pretty unfairly.

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They were saying,
"He's an unconcerned parent."

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Other people were saying,
"Oh, he's just merely a gold digger."

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He was in a position
of not being able to win.

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Damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

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[Carr] People wanted to sort of speak ill
of him or use him as a joke.

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Why'd you think that was?

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Well, keep in mind when Kevin
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she was America's sweetheart.
And in many respects, she still is.

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And they saw Kevin as someone
who in their view, whoever "their" is,

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wasn't worthy of having that unique
relationship with America's sweetheart.

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They attempted to penalize him for that
as much as they could and they--

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The press was brutal.

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But as the case progressed,

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um, I think she did certain things

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that the press found worthy
of a media frenzy.

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[eerie music playing]

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[Carr] As the custody case was battled out
in court, the media frenzy only grew.

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Everyone seemed to have opinion
about Britney Spears.

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The media focused less on her music

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and more on the way
that she was living her life.

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Britney cycled through legal teams,
and became more and more isolated.

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There was a period of estrangement
between Britney and both of her parents

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by fall of 2007.

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I don't know how long
the estrangements were, where--

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Whether there was maybe
sporadic communication,

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but some sources I spoke to
talked about Britney

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having a fear
that her family would barge in,

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I think is how it was put,
and take everything.

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I mean, and that's, you know,
that's how-slash-when Sam Lutfi got in.

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[Carr] Who is Sam Lutfi?

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[Eliscu] Sam Lutfi is the person
frequently blamed by both of her parents

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for her public downfall.

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[Carr] There was a lot of controversy
around Sam Lutfi

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and what role he played
in this brief period of Britney's life.

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First question.
Can you please introduce yourself to us?

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-Uh, I'm Sam Lutfi.
-And who are you?

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I'm Britney Spears's former manager.

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[Carr] But in court documents
newly discovered from Britney's divorce,

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she testified that he was
just her "friend sometimes."

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Somebody who helped "get groceries."

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In that time period,
he went from being the sometimes friend

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to somebody calling the shots.

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[Lutfi]
We met at a bar. We started talking.

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She was very funny.

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Uh, we had a great conversation.

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Um, she had asked me
if I'd seen things that were in the press.

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I said, "Of course. Like, who hasn't?"
You know, making light of the situation.

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She asked for my phone number.

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And then left and I never thought
I was gonna hear from her again.

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Then I get a call from her one night
and she tells me,

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"I need your help."

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[woman] Hey, guys. Just be careful.

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[man] Just clear this side for a second.

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[Lutfi] You could see
that the divorce was impacting her a lot.

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And my question to her the whole time was,

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"I think the best thing would be
to have your family around."

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"There's nothing
like having your mom around."

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That's how it is in my life,
but I was just projecting that onto that.

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Um, and she would just say,

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"My relationship is not like
your relationship with your family."

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I thought, "What's the issue?"
And so she would--

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We would talk about Lynne,

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uh, in depth.

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So there was numerous issues
that were going on.

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[Carr] And how was
her father Jamie involved?

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Not at all.

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Was it a short amount of time,
a long amount of time?

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Uh, from what I believe, it's been years.

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[paparazzi clamoring]

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[Carr] In the eye of the storm
that was 2007,

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Britney was still able to record
and produce an entire studio record.

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♪ It's Britney, bitch ♪

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["Gimme More" playing]

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[Carr] The album was Blackout
and it sold in the millions.

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It is widely considered her best work.

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["Break the Ice" playing]

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The music and the videos
from Blackout portrayed a pop-y version

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of what had become
the story of Britney's real life.

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A woman hunted and often on the run.

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-[camera shutter clicks]
-[ominous music playing]

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This would foreshadow
a much darker turn for Britney.

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There are paparazzi images
of Britney in 2007

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that have been seen millions of times.

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These images are often coupled
with headlines like,

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"Meltdown" or "Rock Bottom."

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Looking back,
you can see she was just a person,

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a person who needed help.

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[haunting music playing]

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Throughout that year, paparazzi continued
to follow Britney aggressively

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around Los Angeles.

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[woman] She's crazy.

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Oh, my God.

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[Carr] She drove at high speeds
to avoid them,

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sometimes running red lights.

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There were concerns
that if these car chases continued,

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something terrible could happen.

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A lot of people argue

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that she was crazy, right?

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You know, and I fucking hate that word.

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Would you say she was upset,
would you say she was angry,

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or would you say she was hurt?

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I'd choose all of them
before I'd choose crazy.

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[helicopter whirring]

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[sirens wailing]

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[dramatic music playing]

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[Carr] In January 2008,
police were called to Britney's residence.

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She had locked herself in a room,

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refusing to turn over the children
to Federline's bodyguard

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at the court appointed time.

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[siren wailing]

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[man] Listen up!

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Cedar Sinai, this is their property,

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including the sidewalk
that you are standing on.

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I need to you to move.

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[Carr] At the hospital there was Kevin,
Mark Vincent Kaplan, his lawyer,

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and Britney's father.

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Britney's parents had been divorced
since 2002.

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[Culotta] Britney was so close
with her mother.

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When we were on tour,

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I mean, she and Lynne talked at least--

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Oh, gosh. At the very least,
two or three times a day.

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[Carr] And what about her dad, Jamie?

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Okay, I don't wanna talk about her daddy.
I don't wanna talk about Jamie.

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Um…

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The reason I don't--
I will tell you this just so we'll know.

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Jamie wasn't with us very often,
hardly ever.

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Um, so it really was me and Lynne.

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[Carr] A few days after Britney
was released from the hospital,

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a new figure emerged.

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Her name was Louise Taylor.

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And she went on The Today Show
as a spokesperson for the Spears family.

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[Taylor] What I would like to say is that

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I really feel like people
just do not know the Spears family.

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What they don't know about Jamie
and Lynne Spears is that every day,

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Jamie goes to work as a professional chef,

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asking the Lord to give him the strength
to honor the people he works for

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in the midst of circumstances,
that Lynne Spears is a mother

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that is brokenhearted just because
she's apart from her daughter.

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She loves her daughter so much.

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And again, asking every day
for God to give her strength

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and for her to continue to have hope.

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I mean, I'm so disturbed, Meredith,
where we've gotten to be as a people,

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the morbidity of us watching
the depravity of people suffering,

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than to rally around and be hopeful.

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So, really, for, I guess, for me
to be self-indulgent for a moment,

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that I would really hope that all those
who seek God for strength in their life

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would be interceding for this family
because Jamie Spears,

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Lynne Spears, Bryan, and Jamie Lynn Spears

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are all amazing people.

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[Carr] From what I'd seen, no one had ever
spoken on behalf of the Spears.

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[Carr] Who is Lou Taylor?

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I will not touch that one.

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Sorry.

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She will chew me up
and spit me out. [chuckles]

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[paparazzi chattering]

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[Carr] The custody suit grew
more contentious

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when the judge gave Kevin Federline
full custody of the two boys.

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Soon thereafter,
Britney would return to the hospital

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under another
involuntary psychiatric hold.

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[man] Mr. Spears, what's going on?
How's Britney doing?

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Can you give us any word,
any news on Britney?

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[Carr] Jamie Spears petitioned
the State of California probate court

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for a new legal arrangement.

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It was called a conservatorship.

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[dramatic music playing]

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[Eliscu] I started working
at Rolling Stone in '99.

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Britney was my second-ever cover story.

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I didn't give a shit about Britney Spears
or pop music personally.

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It's not something
I paid attention to at all.

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Then I met her,
and she was just so likable and sweet.

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So, in late 2008, when I was assigned
to do another cover story

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on Britney for Rolling Stone,

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I was excited 'cause I love her
and hadn't seen her in a few years.

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And in spite of all of the drama,

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I was just picturing it the same way
it always would be,

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and, you know, went to L.A.

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ready to spend some time
and started to get told by the label

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that I'd have to submit
my questions ahead of time.

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I said to the publicist,
"But it's me, me and Britney."

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And she would say, "Oh, you know,
we know Britney loves you,

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but we just--
The conservatorship, we've got to."

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I was like,
"What the fuck is a conservatorship?"

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A conservatorship is a legal process
for taking somebody's ability

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to make their own decisions away from them

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and giving them to some third party,
aka their conservator,

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or in other states, it's the guardian.

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Obviously, any process
to deprive someone of those liberties

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and those freedoms would be something

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we'd want to impose very rarely,
only as a last resort,

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having tried
and exhausted all other alternatives.

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Some people have called conservatorship
tantamount to a civil death.

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There's conservatorship of the person,

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which is allowing someone else
to make your decisions

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related to your personal affairs.

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They lose the ability to decide
anything related to their healthcare,

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so their ability to provide
or withhold informed consent

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for treatments, including drugs,
is taken away from them.

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And, in many cases, they lose their right

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to decide who to visit with
or receive visits from.

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They lose their right to communicate
with people of their choosing

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over the telephone, over the computer.

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For a conservatorship of the estate,

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which often goes
with the conservatorship of the person,

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they're no longer in charge
of their money,

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theoretically, even the $10
they might have in their pocket.

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[camera shutter clicks]

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[Eliscu] Jamie was made
the sole conservator of the person.

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He had to share
the conservatorship of the estate

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with a court-appointed attorney
named Andrew Wallet.

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You had Jamie who had bankruptcy issues

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and financial mismanagement
of his own life,

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and they said, "We have Andrew Wallet
here as the co-conservator,

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and has a fiduciary interest,"

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but in court documents,

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he talked about the conservatorship
as being a "hybrid business model."

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[ominous music playing]

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[Eliscu] According to the papers filed
with the court on February 6, 2008,

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the conservators have access
to all documents and records

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related to Britney's estate.

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They can enter and take possession
of her house, kick people out,

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they can issue restraining orders,
and employ security guards,

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they can use Britney's money
to pay attorneys for matters

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involving the estate,
open and operate businesses,

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hire people for any position necessary,

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and pay them using funds from the estate.

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Why was Jamie made the conservator
and not Lynne?

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Jamie is intimidating,
and people who have known him

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and met him and worked with him,

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and even had positive experiences
with him,

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will still tell you
that he is very intimidating

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00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:03,830
and when he's angry,
you don't want to mess with him.

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They were really in a moment

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where they felt they needed
to keep away certain people,

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and he was like the bouncer.
He could keep people out.

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[Carr] Here we've got…

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[Eliscu] Larry Rudolph,
Britney's longtime manager.

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He started in 1996 as her attorney
and then grew into her manager.

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But, uh, in April of 2007,
Britney fired him.

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00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:32,734
Larry was the main person
that Jamie Spears brought back

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to get things running,
and he's been her manager ever since.

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And he often will say
that he's not involved

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with the conservatorship
or that he doesn't know what goes on,

443
00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:44,663
that he only knows
what goes on with Britney's work.

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00:27:47,457 --> 00:27:50,669
Louise Taylor, aka Lou,
led business decisions at times

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over the course of the conservatorship.

446
00:27:53,296 --> 00:27:55,507
Louise Taylor's husband, Rob Taylor,

447
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is the pastor
of a church called Calvary Chapel.

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[man] Lou Taylor started appearing
around 2008,

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before the conservatorship.

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And we know this because
there is paparazzi footage of her

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with Britney's father, Jamie.

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And then she somehow managed
to become Britney's business manager.

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She is a Christian, so they trusted her
a lot more because of that.

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[Carr] Lou Taylor,
through her attorney Charles Harder,

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sent me a pre-emptive legal letter

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regarding any mention of Lou Taylor
or her company, Tri Star, in this film.

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00:28:36,423 --> 00:28:38,758
The letter was extensive.

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When I got this notice, I was alarmed.

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00:29:11,791 --> 00:29:15,378
But receiving a letter
from Lou Taylor or her attorney

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00:29:15,462 --> 00:29:18,673
was not unusual
for people involved in the story.

461
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:23,344
While Lou's involvement
with Britney wasn't clear,

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00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:27,348
what was apparent was
that Jamie and Lou were very close.

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00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:30,935
Some sleuthing of Instagram
showed Lou and her husband

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with Jamie on the day
of his baptism at the Jordan River.

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This is paperwork
relating to Britney's condition

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at the start of the conservatorship.

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00:29:41,362 --> 00:29:43,198
It's… It's kind of a standard form

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where you indicate
what the person's impairment is

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that requires a conservatorship.

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Specifically, this is interesting to us

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because it's orders
related to dementia placement.

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[eerie music playing]

473
00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:04,427
You don't usually see dementia mentioned
with, you know, with a young person.

474
00:30:10,016 --> 00:30:14,938
This is one of the most important filings
in the entire conservatorship

475
00:30:15,021 --> 00:30:18,733
because when someone is being made
a conservatee,

476
00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:21,402
they're entitled to five days' heads-up,

477
00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:25,198
so that if they want to contest it,
or find a lawyer, et cetera,

478
00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:26,825
they have time to do that.

479
00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:30,620
The only reason given
for depriving Britney of five days' notice

480
00:30:30,703 --> 00:30:35,291
is that Sam Lutfi is dangerous
and needs to be kept away.

481
00:30:36,334 --> 00:30:38,753
Don't push! Don't push.

482
00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:41,506
Get off! Off! Off!

483
00:30:41,589 --> 00:30:42,757
[camera shutter clicks]

484
00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:46,553
[Craker]
It was total crisis mode with Sam,

485
00:30:46,636 --> 00:30:50,515
and that is something that I don't believe
has really been portrayed correctly,

486
00:30:50,598 --> 00:30:53,768
is the level of crisis

487
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:57,689
at the moment
that the conservatorship began.

488
00:30:57,772 --> 00:30:59,941
Are you going to [bleep] get out?

489
00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:02,443
Oh, my God,
please get the [bleep] out of the way!

490
00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:05,196
Now I'm scared you're gonna drive off
without me.

491
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,740
Now get out of the passenger seat,
get out of the [bleep] car.

492
00:31:07,824 --> 00:31:10,118
Get out, get out, get out. Thank you.

493
00:31:11,369 --> 00:31:15,540
They felt they had to do it
to protect Britney from Sam.

494
00:31:15,623 --> 00:31:18,209
We're sort of alluding to what happened,

495
00:31:18,293 --> 00:31:21,004
that something dangerous
was happening with Sam.

496
00:31:21,087 --> 00:31:23,381
What do you think was going to happen?

497
00:31:23,464 --> 00:31:26,634
He was crushing drugs
and putting them in her food

498
00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:30,138
-and bragging about it to…[Carr] And you 100% believe that?

499
00:31:31,931 --> 00:31:32,765
Yeah.

500
00:31:35,852 --> 00:31:38,521
[Britney] Drive my [bleep] car,
that's what I got to do.

501
00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:44,569
You have a hundred blood tests
and drug tests.

502
00:31:44,652 --> 00:31:47,488
The entire time I was with her,
she passed every single one of them,

503
00:31:47,572 --> 00:31:50,658
which is why the police never came
to my door.

504
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:52,243
No one called the police.

505
00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:56,748
To be char--
Accused of allegations that serious,

506
00:31:56,831 --> 00:32:02,295
that you're drugging the world's
biggest star, you call the police.

507
00:32:02,378 --> 00:32:04,589
You call the FBI. You don't call TMZ.

508
00:32:05,548 --> 00:32:07,884
-I was the perfect scapegoat.
-[Carr] Why?

509
00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:11,304
I was new. They didn't know who I was.

510
00:32:11,387 --> 00:32:13,431
I was just an expendable guy.

511
00:32:13,514 --> 00:32:16,434
Like, all right,
if that's what you need to get this done

512
00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:18,811
and waive a five-day notice,
and explain a five-day notice,

513
00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:24,317
it means that she would have been notified
that this was gonna happen,

514
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,527
and she would've had
the right to contest to it.

515
00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:30,156
She would have obviously contested it.
They knew that, everyone knew that.

516
00:32:30,239 --> 00:32:33,952
And so they had to do everything
to prevent that from happening.

517
00:32:35,078 --> 00:32:36,079
[horn honks]

518
00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:40,708
[Carr] Sam would later sue Lynne Spears,
Britney's mom,

519
00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:44,337
for defamation based on her account
of his involvement.

520
00:33:20,289 --> 00:33:22,291
[dramatic music playing]

521
00:33:25,294 --> 00:33:30,299
Britney went with one
of her dad's appointed security guards…

522
00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:33,136
out to get a hamburger.

523
00:33:33,219 --> 00:33:36,139
As I am told,
they both entered the restaurant,

524
00:33:36,222 --> 00:33:38,266
and Britney sort of did an about-face,

525
00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:42,687
jumped into the car
that he had brought her in and took off.

526
00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:48,359
Uh, she called me
and said that she needed help.

527
00:33:49,694 --> 00:33:53,948
I met her and a friend of hers
at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

528
00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:56,117
-[Carr] Adnan Ghalib?
-[Grossman] Correct.

529
00:33:57,952 --> 00:33:59,495
We called Adam.

530
00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:03,875
He was a part of a firm
that I had a relationship with.

531
00:34:03,958 --> 00:34:05,793
[helicopter whirring]

532
00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:12,050
We were chased probably by,
I don't know, 50, 75 vehicles.

533
00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:15,553
[paparazzi clamoring]

534
00:34:15,636 --> 00:34:17,138
It is so mean.

535
00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:24,687
[Streisand] We met in my office,
which was crazy,

536
00:34:24,771 --> 00:34:28,524
'cause we had helicopters
swirling over the building.

537
00:34:28,608 --> 00:34:30,902
There must have been a hundred paparazzi.

538
00:34:31,694 --> 00:34:33,613
I sent down my secretary,

539
00:34:33,696 --> 00:34:35,823
who brought a guy from the mailroom

540
00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:38,409
who's like 6'6" and 250 pounds,

541
00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:41,662
to help Britney get up
from the garage to my office.

542
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:42,747
[Ghalib] Yes.

543
00:34:42,830 --> 00:34:46,334
-[woman] I'm Adam's secretary.
-We gotta go.

544
00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,002
[woman] Just follow me.

545
00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:50,088
My secretary, Dolores Gameros,

546
00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:53,674
who's like 5'4",
was elbowing everybody out of the way

547
00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:55,676
and getting her through the crowd

548
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,555
and got her up to the office,
which was just an unbelievable sight.

549
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:05,269
But you can imagine what it is like
for anyone to have to go through that.

550
00:35:05,353 --> 00:35:07,355
[crowd clamoring]

551
00:35:13,194 --> 00:35:14,445
[man] Don't kick me!

552
00:35:16,322 --> 00:35:20,368
I can't tell you about what we talked
about, right? Because that's privileged.

553
00:35:20,451 --> 00:35:23,579
But I can tell you what I told the court.

554
00:35:26,666 --> 00:35:29,293
So we walk into court and I said,

555
00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:32,213
"Your Honor, she doesn't want
her father to be the conservator."

556
00:35:32,296 --> 00:35:35,049
"She wants an independent
to be the conservator."

557
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:38,678
She clearly understood
the concept of a conservatorship.

558
00:35:38,761 --> 00:35:40,721
She understood what was going to happen.

559
00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:44,016
She could make some decisions about it,
and let me say,

560
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:48,437
I'm not gonna say that in every case,
every conservatorship case,

561
00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:52,233
it's inappropriate to have
a family member as the conservator.

562
00:35:52,316 --> 00:35:53,985
That would be going too far.

563
00:35:54,068 --> 00:36:00,449
But I will say that I generally prefer
to see an independent professional

564
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:01,784
as the conservator.

565
00:36:01,868 --> 00:36:06,622
And the reason is that family
relationships are always complex.

566
00:36:07,248 --> 00:36:09,917
When I told the judge what Britney wanted,

567
00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:11,961
the judge looked at me and said,

568
00:36:12,044 --> 00:36:18,259
"Mr. Streisand, I have a report
that says she does not have the capacity

569
00:36:18,342 --> 00:36:22,513
to retain counsel
and have an attorney-client relationship."

570
00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:25,266
"So I'm sorry, Mr. Streisand,

571
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:27,643
but you're not gonna be able
to represent her

572
00:36:27,727 --> 00:36:30,730
and I need to ask you
to the leave the courtroom." And I did.

573
00:36:33,149 --> 00:36:35,651
[man 1] Can you give us a heads-up
on what happened here today?

574
00:36:35,735 --> 00:36:36,736
No, I'm sorry.

575
00:36:36,819 --> 00:36:39,614
-I've talked to the press.
-[man 2] How's Britney?

576
00:36:40,615 --> 00:36:42,575
There's no law that says that conservatees

577
00:36:42,658 --> 00:36:44,952
have the right
to the attorney of their choice.

578
00:36:45,036 --> 00:36:47,413
It's a hole in the system, for sure,

579
00:36:47,496 --> 00:36:50,750
that allows the courts
to impose their own ideas

580
00:36:50,833 --> 00:36:54,754
of what is the best representation
for the conservatee.

581
00:36:54,837 --> 00:36:58,341
They have what's called
this volunteer panel of lawyers,

582
00:36:58,424 --> 00:37:00,635
which basically means
that the lawyers volunteer.

583
00:37:00,718 --> 00:37:03,930
Doesn't mean they're working for free.
Far from it.

584
00:37:04,013 --> 00:37:07,058
But they volunteer
to get appointed by the court

585
00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:08,684
to represent people like Britney,

586
00:37:08,768 --> 00:37:12,772
people who are conservatees
or proposed conservatees.

587
00:37:12,855 --> 00:37:17,568
I can't tell you what happened
in court after I left.

588
00:37:17,652 --> 00:37:21,113
I don't know whether Sam Ingham,

589
00:37:21,197 --> 00:37:25,910
who was appointed as her lawyer,
argued the way that I argued,

590
00:37:25,993 --> 00:37:28,746
that the conservator
shouldn't be Britney's father.

591
00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:30,248
I've got my suspicions.

592
00:37:31,207 --> 00:37:36,045
I sure hope Sam Ingham
fought hard against, uh, against it,

593
00:37:36,128 --> 00:37:37,755
but I never heard that he did.

594
00:37:39,966 --> 00:37:44,011
[Chicotel] We have very particular
standards for conservatorship.

595
00:37:44,095 --> 00:37:46,722
You have to be unable to meet your needs

596
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:49,225
for food, clothing, health, and shelter.

597
00:37:49,308 --> 00:37:50,309
So let me put it this way,

598
00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:53,271
I've represented
dozens of conservatees in court,

599
00:37:53,354 --> 00:37:55,439
not one of them has ever had a job.

600
00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:59,527
[ominous music playing]

601
00:37:59,610 --> 00:38:01,529
Somebody called me from People
and they said,

602
00:38:01,612 --> 00:38:06,158
"We're gonna write a story
in regards to her father

603
00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:08,744
wanting conservatorship of Britney."

604
00:38:09,745 --> 00:38:14,292
They basically, you know,
explained it in one sentence.

605
00:38:14,375 --> 00:38:18,004
"He will be Britney Spears."
That's all they said.

606
00:38:18,087 --> 00:38:21,173
I said, "What do you mean?
Britney Spears is still here."

607
00:38:21,257 --> 00:38:27,763
"Nope. She no longer has rights
or say over anything."

608
00:38:27,847 --> 00:38:29,348
"He does."

609
00:38:29,432 --> 00:38:32,601
I'm like,
"Well, why would that be the case?"

610
00:38:32,685 --> 00:38:33,936
"She's functioning."

611
00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:38,399
I watched her write the Blackout album
on a Starbucks napkin

612
00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:41,610
on Ventura Boulevard in Studio City.

613
00:38:42,403 --> 00:38:46,741
I watched her sit there
and put the moves together.

614
00:38:46,824 --> 00:38:49,368
And we're talking about, you know,

615
00:38:49,452 --> 00:38:52,455
what colors to use
and, you know, the scenery,

616
00:38:52,538 --> 00:38:55,875
and the change of scenery,
and the backdrop and costumes.

617
00:38:56,459 --> 00:38:58,878
She did all that, and you're telling me

618
00:38:58,961 --> 00:39:03,257
that her father's gonna get
a conservatorship?

619
00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:04,967
It didn't make sense to me.

620
00:39:05,051 --> 00:39:07,178
[journalist] I'm from In Touch magazine.

621
00:39:07,261 --> 00:39:10,139
Let me give you a fucking clue,
I don't talk to no-fucking-body.

622
00:39:10,222 --> 00:39:12,183
[journalist] Why don't you talk to us?

623
00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:14,769
'Cause I never have to talk
to anybody, you dumb fuck.

624
00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:35,289
[suspenseful music playing]

625
00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:12,660
[Carr] The source said,

626
00:40:12,743 --> 00:40:16,455
"This is a confidential report
only a select few have access."

627
00:40:16,539 --> 00:40:18,416
"Most doctors and other professionals

628
00:40:18,499 --> 00:40:20,668
have not been publicly connected
to the case

629
00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:22,378
and would like to remain that way."

630
00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:26,924
"The report was produced by a doctor
that resigned from the case in 2013."

631
00:40:30,136 --> 00:40:32,555
Look at this sentence right here.
Read it out loud.

632
00:40:32,638 --> 00:40:37,017
[Eliscu] "Britney Spears lacks capacity
to retain and direct counsel."

633
00:40:39,061 --> 00:40:42,398
"Britney Spears lacks the capacity
to understand or manage

634
00:40:42,481 --> 00:40:46,861
her own financial affairs
without being subject to undue influence."

635
00:40:46,944 --> 00:40:50,448
What's wild is, at the same time
this report was written,

636
00:40:50,531 --> 00:40:52,199
Britney was back to work.

637
00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:54,660
She was on the set
of How I Met Your Mother.

638
00:40:54,743 --> 00:40:57,329
Sir, please don't yell at me,
because when people yell at me,

639
00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,415
I have a tendency to start crying.

640
00:40:59,498 --> 00:41:03,461
[Eliscu] The episode was out within two
months of the conservatorship starting.

641
00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:05,713
When they're rude to you,
hang up the phone.

642
00:41:06,714 --> 00:41:09,633
Yet we have paperwork
that says she had dementia.

643
00:41:10,676 --> 00:41:15,014
How is someone who is that ill
well enough to go to work?

644
00:41:22,062 --> 00:41:24,231
"Caution should also be exercised

645
00:41:24,315 --> 00:41:27,067
so as not to accelerate her return to work

646
00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:29,987
faster than her emotional recovery allows,

647
00:41:30,070 --> 00:41:34,492
lest she have a relapse that would undo
the progress she has made thus far."

648
00:41:35,201 --> 00:41:38,871
[Carr] The medical team said
that Britney lacked capacity,

649
00:41:38,954 --> 00:41:42,708
but who was the original doctor
that made that decision?

650
00:41:42,791 --> 00:41:45,878
In looking at the publicly available
court documents,

651
00:41:45,961 --> 00:41:49,298
there was only one name
listed in the initial evaluation,

652
00:41:49,381 --> 00:41:51,509
a Dr. J. Edward Spar.

653
00:41:52,259 --> 00:41:54,762
I needed to confirm that he was the doctor

654
00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:59,433
that conducted the medical evaluation
that kept the conservatorship in place.

655
00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:00,518
We're ready for slate.

656
00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:02,436
And what the justification was.

657
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,355
[woman] Dr. James, uh…

658
00:42:04,438 --> 00:42:05,856
-Spar.
-[woman] Spar.

659
00:42:06,482 --> 00:42:07,650
Take one, mark.

660
00:42:07,733 --> 00:42:08,734
[man] Thank you.

661
00:42:09,735 --> 00:42:12,279
[Carr] Dr. Spar, tell me about your work.

662
00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:15,533
I am a retired, uh, geriatric psychiatrist

663
00:42:15,616 --> 00:42:19,286
and still do the occasional consultation
for attorneys,

664
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:23,165
including, you know,
contested conservatorships sometimes.

665
00:42:23,249 --> 00:42:25,918
[Carr] Had you heard of
Britney Spears' music before you met her?

666
00:42:26,001 --> 00:42:30,130
You know, uh, I'm not a fan.
I don't listen to music of that ilk.

667
00:42:30,214 --> 00:42:32,174
But, yeah, I know who she is.

668
00:42:33,509 --> 00:42:35,469
-Wait, before I met her?
-Yeah.

669
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:39,181
Oh, wait, I'm not going to acknowledge
that I've ever met her.

670
00:42:39,723 --> 00:42:42,101
[Carr] Do you specialize in dementia?

671
00:42:42,184 --> 00:42:44,270
Well, I'm a geriatric psychiatrist,

672
00:42:44,353 --> 00:42:47,690
so that's one of the things
that geriatric psychiatrists

673
00:42:47,773 --> 00:42:50,067
spend a lot of time and energy on, yeah.

674
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:53,571
Is that why you were brought in
to evaluate Britney Spears?

675
00:42:55,114 --> 00:43:00,411
I'm not going to verify that I was ever
brought in to evaluate Britney Spears.

676
00:43:00,494 --> 00:43:02,454
So here is a court document

677
00:43:02,538 --> 00:43:05,249
that said, uh,
"According to Dr. Spar's declaration."

678
00:43:06,834 --> 00:43:10,713
Okay. Again, show me
my signed declaration.

679
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,635
If you show me a public document
with my signature on it,

680
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,013
I will verify my signature.

681
00:43:19,096 --> 00:43:22,850
Other than that, I'm not gonna talk about

682
00:43:22,933 --> 00:43:27,187
whether anybody ever retained me
to see anybody, not just Britney Spears.

683
00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:29,440
These are confidential evaluations.

684
00:43:29,523 --> 00:43:31,525
[Carr] But you think, for the most part,

685
00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:35,988
that conservatorships are, um,
mostly to help people?

686
00:43:37,031 --> 00:43:39,617
The ones where I have been involved,

687
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:42,411
the person who's filing
for the conservatorship

688
00:43:42,494 --> 00:43:44,663
believes that they are acting
in the interests

689
00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:46,665
of their proposed conservatee.

690
00:43:46,749 --> 00:43:49,460
They're trying to protect them
from something.

691
00:43:49,543 --> 00:43:52,129
Usually,
most of the cases I've been involved in,

692
00:43:52,212 --> 00:43:54,173
what they're trying to protect them from

693
00:43:54,256 --> 00:43:57,885
is a predatory individual
after that person's money.

694
00:43:57,968 --> 00:43:59,970
[somber music playing]

695
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,521
[Ghalib]
I get a phone call from her father.

696
00:44:10,439 --> 00:44:12,775
And he's like,
"I need you to come home right now."

697
00:44:12,858 --> 00:44:15,486
I said, "We'll come home
when we come home."

698
00:44:16,070 --> 00:44:18,280
And he said,
"No, you need to bring her home now."

699
00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:21,450
"I'm the conservator of her estate."

700
00:44:23,202 --> 00:44:25,913
You know, he was always so extreme.
You know?

701
00:44:30,376 --> 00:44:34,713
Let me explain to you
how fucking devastating it was

702
00:44:34,797 --> 00:44:38,175
for me to pull up at the gates

703
00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:40,552
and there's her father standing there,

704
00:44:40,636 --> 00:44:43,722
four of the security, and two officers.

705
00:44:44,306 --> 00:44:47,768
And they're standing there,
and she freaks out.

706
00:44:47,851 --> 00:44:49,853
"What are they doing here?
Why are they here?"

707
00:44:49,937 --> 00:44:52,690
"Why is my father at my house? Who are
these people? Why are the cops here?"

708
00:44:52,773 --> 00:44:54,149
And she looks at me.

709
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:58,112
I'm supposed to be the one
that protects her.

710
00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:01,699
And I'm trying to calm her down. I cannot.

711
00:45:01,782 --> 00:45:05,828
I'm trying to explain to her,
"He is your conservator."

712
00:45:05,911 --> 00:45:11,166
"Without his permission,
because he is you, I've kidnapped you."

713
00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:13,502
"And it's that real."

714
00:45:13,585 --> 00:45:16,922
She just looks. She doesn't talk anymore.
She's completely silent.

715
00:45:20,759 --> 00:45:23,178
You know, they escort her into the house.

716
00:45:25,347 --> 00:45:27,266
That's when the realization was,

717
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:30,227
"Okay, I don't think
things are gonna be the same."

718
00:45:44,658 --> 00:45:46,660
[camera shutter clicking]

719
00:45:47,911 --> 00:45:51,457
[Carr] As 2008 continued,
Britney had reportedly negotiated

720
00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:54,168
50-50 custody of her kids.

721
00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:56,587
The amount of time she spent with them

722
00:45:56,670 --> 00:46:00,299
was subject to the approval
of her dad and conservator, Jamie.

723
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:03,302
[indistinct chatter]

724
00:46:06,054 --> 00:46:08,182
Britney seemed to be recovering
from the events

725
00:46:08,265 --> 00:46:10,476
that led to her hospitalization.

726
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:13,562
It was deemed by Britney, Inc.
that it was time to work,

727
00:46:13,645 --> 00:46:14,855
and work she did.

728
00:46:15,731 --> 00:46:17,733
[indistinct chatter]

729
00:46:20,736 --> 00:46:23,071
It started with recording a new album,

730
00:46:23,155 --> 00:46:26,700
and then the idea
of a tell-all documentary was proposed.

731
00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:29,536
This MTV Film would be called
For the Record.

732
00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:32,956
This was a new time
in Britney's professional life,

733
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,126
and it meant those that worked with her
would be carefully selected

734
00:46:36,210 --> 00:46:37,753
by the conservatorship.

735
00:46:38,670 --> 00:46:42,674
It was interesting going through
a lot of this with other creatives

736
00:46:42,758 --> 00:46:45,135
and people who were sort of
from the outside.

737
00:46:45,219 --> 00:46:47,262
I remember at one point talking amongst us

738
00:46:47,346 --> 00:46:50,599
and realizing that, like,
there wasn't a single person

739
00:46:50,682 --> 00:46:52,893
that was involved with that project

740
00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:57,481
that didn't come out
feeling affected emotionally.

741
00:46:58,023 --> 00:46:59,566
Like, not a single person.

742
00:47:00,108 --> 00:47:02,694
[Britney] If I wasn't under the restraints
that I'm under right now,

743
00:47:02,778 --> 00:47:08,075
with all the lawyers and doctors
and people analyzing me every day

744
00:47:08,158 --> 00:47:09,576
and all that kind of stuff,

745
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:15,833
like, if that wasn't there, I'd feel
so liberated and feel like myself.

746
00:47:15,916 --> 00:47:19,127
It's like… It's bad.

747
00:47:19,211 --> 00:47:21,213
[somber music playing]

748
00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:29,346
I'm sad.

749
00:47:31,932 --> 00:47:34,309
[Jamie] The best thing for her is
what she's doing right now.

750
00:47:34,393 --> 00:47:37,646
Let's give her…
She's in her element. She's in her world.

751
00:47:37,729 --> 00:47:42,651
And, uh, keeping her busy.
You know, like me, I like to go fishing.

752
00:47:42,734 --> 00:47:45,487
She likes to sing and dance.
She likes to work.

753
00:47:45,571 --> 00:47:47,573
Are they gonna bring
something here or something?

754
00:47:47,656 --> 00:47:51,118
-I have no idea what's going on.
-Yes, you do, brat.

755
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:54,872
-Does everybody know what we're doing?
-[man] Yep.

756
00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:56,456
-Except me.
-[man] Except you.

757
00:47:56,540 --> 00:47:57,666
Is that my car?

758
00:47:59,126 --> 00:48:01,920
[Gallery] I was there that day,
and I remember,

759
00:48:02,004 --> 00:48:06,967
like with almost everything, there were
these two polar opposite feelings.

760
00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:10,262
Like, it was so nice for her
to get to drive her car

761
00:48:10,345 --> 00:48:13,682
with the top down
and just feel free for a minute.

762
00:48:13,765 --> 00:48:17,853
But on the other hand, I'm thinking,
like, what is going on with this girl

763
00:48:17,936 --> 00:48:20,397
that we have to arrange…

764
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,066
Thirty people have
to arrange this whole thing

765
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:27,738
to let her drive her car
to feel free for 30 minutes?

766
00:48:28,447 --> 00:48:30,657
Like, in what context?

767
00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:36,496
Like… Like, how is that
how she gets to feel free?

768
00:48:37,748 --> 00:48:40,250
The whole thing is fucked up. I'm sorry.

769
00:48:42,377 --> 00:48:44,713
[crowd cheering]

770
00:48:46,465 --> 00:48:48,342
Britney and I had become close.

771
00:48:48,967 --> 00:48:53,138
I could shoot her in a way that not
all the other camera people could.

772
00:48:53,221 --> 00:48:57,184
Um, and so then we just developed
this sort of close-knit friendship.

773
00:48:59,186 --> 00:49:01,939
There were times she'd ask me for help,

774
00:49:02,022 --> 00:49:04,983
whether it was questions
about legal issues

775
00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:09,237
or, you know,
stuff about conservatorships.

776
00:49:09,321 --> 00:49:12,658
Um, and I would usually try
and deflect these things

777
00:49:12,741 --> 00:49:14,826
because if I didn't have an answer,

778
00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:17,496
I didn't want to give her
any wrong information.

779
00:49:17,579 --> 00:49:21,708
Um, but I know that there were times
that she did want to speak out

780
00:49:21,792 --> 00:49:24,586
and address things
and wasn't really able to.

781
00:49:28,548 --> 00:49:30,342
This People article came out.

782
00:49:30,425 --> 00:49:34,221
I think they had interviewed Kevin
and obviously talked about Britney.

783
00:49:34,304 --> 00:49:37,516
And there was stuff
she didn't really agree with.

784
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:40,477
And it's like she wanted to respond to it.

785
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,564
And so, yeah, she wrote this letter
and she gave it to me

786
00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:48,110
and she was like,
"Can you read this on TV?"

787
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:53,824
"What happened to Britney was a year ago
and people need to get with the times."

788
00:49:53,907 --> 00:49:56,618
"And as for Kevin
saying Britney divorced him,

789
00:49:56,702 --> 00:50:00,080
she was forced to by her lawyers
because she went to visit him in New York,

790
00:50:00,163 --> 00:50:01,957
and he wouldn't see her and the children."

791
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,919
"And her lawyer said if she doesn't
divorce him, he's gonna do it himself."

792
00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:09,715
"So, Kevin trying to play
the innocent victim is hardly irrelevant."

793
00:50:09,798 --> 00:50:11,717
"He left her and the babies."

794
00:50:12,259 --> 00:50:14,219
"Her going on the mend,
partying two years ago,

795
00:50:14,302 --> 00:50:16,847
has nothing to do with the situation now."

796
00:50:16,930 --> 00:50:21,059
"She's a different person, and most
of their fighting was done back then

797
00:50:21,143 --> 00:50:25,772
because of his problem waking and baking
to marijuana at 5:00 in the morning."

798
00:50:26,815 --> 00:50:29,943
"No one talks about these things
because no one knows the truth."

799
00:50:30,652 --> 00:50:32,279
"She was lied to and set up."

800
00:50:32,946 --> 00:50:35,699
"Her children were taken away
and she did spin out of control,

801
00:50:35,782 --> 00:50:38,452
which any mother would
in those circumstances."

802
00:50:39,286 --> 00:50:44,124
"This year, Britney's been silenced to
speak out about anything that's going on."

803
00:50:44,207 --> 00:50:48,295
"The people controlling her life
have made $3 million this year."

804
00:50:48,837 --> 00:50:51,214
"She would love for new eyes
to see her situation,

805
00:50:51,298 --> 00:50:53,633
but if she brings it up,
she's constantly threatened

806
00:50:53,717 --> 00:50:56,470
that the conservators
will take her kids away."

807
00:50:56,553 --> 00:50:58,555
"So how long does this go on for?"

808
00:50:59,389 --> 00:51:02,225
"As long as the people are getting paid
and she has no rights,

809
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:06,021
it could go on for a while,
but it doesn't make it right at all."

810
00:51:08,148 --> 00:51:11,276
"Britney's given her brother
a $2 million apartment,

811
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:13,236
her mother an estate in Louisiana,

812
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,031
and her father
the best job in show business."

813
00:51:16,531 --> 00:51:20,911
"She's a very giving person and would love
to get the respect she deserves."

814
00:51:24,331 --> 00:51:26,875
It was an emotional response
to the article coming out,

815
00:51:26,958 --> 00:51:29,711
and it is like her first response.

816
00:51:29,795 --> 00:51:32,380
For me not to read it all on TV
right away was also saying,

817
00:51:32,464 --> 00:51:36,093
why don't you just take a couple days
and cool down from this?

818
00:51:36,176 --> 00:51:39,554
And then a couple days later,
maybe we can revisit it.

819
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:43,391
Things like this would happen often,
not necessarily like this letter,

820
00:51:43,475 --> 00:51:46,937
but like trying to use my phone
to call people.

821
00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:50,649
Those are the things you had
to look out for and steer her away from.

822
00:51:51,399 --> 00:51:54,945
And then, a couple days later,
I got a phone call from the lawyers.

823
00:51:55,028 --> 00:51:59,491
The letter had some, you know,
some information that would be really bad

824
00:51:59,574 --> 00:52:01,993
if it came out or something like that.

825
00:52:02,077 --> 00:52:06,081
And so, all of a sudden, the letter turned
into a much bigger thing.

826
00:52:06,665 --> 00:52:11,128
And then, you know, I just brought it in
and showed it to them, and that was that.

827
00:52:11,211 --> 00:52:14,297
[Carr] But you had enough foresight
to copy the letter?

828
00:52:15,048 --> 00:52:16,424
I wouldn't call it foresight.

829
00:52:16,508 --> 00:52:20,345
I think that when she gave it to me,
we took a picture of it

830
00:52:20,428 --> 00:52:23,890
because I didn't want
to actually carry the letter.

831
00:52:23,974 --> 00:52:26,268
And what was that experience like for you?

832
00:52:28,186 --> 00:52:31,022
I mean, again, like,
I always just felt bad for her.

833
00:52:33,358 --> 00:52:37,154
I felt bad that, like,
this was her reality and her world,

834
00:52:37,863 --> 00:52:41,032
where she gave me a letter,
and then, all of a sudden,

835
00:52:41,116 --> 00:52:43,702
this huge fire alarm goes off.

836
00:52:45,996 --> 00:52:50,917
It's crazy. All she wanted to do
was respond to an article.

837
00:52:51,001 --> 00:52:54,087
[Carr] How much longer did you work
with Britney after that?

838
00:52:54,921 --> 00:52:59,968
It was pretty shortly after that
that I stopped working with her.

839
00:53:00,051 --> 00:53:05,849
I think at that point it was obvious that
we were close and pretty good friends.

840
00:53:05,932 --> 00:53:07,017
Um…

841
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:11,605
I mean, this was coming after I was
her date for her brother's wedding.

842
00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:16,735
And, you know, we had developed,
you know, I think just like a good trust.

843
00:53:16,818 --> 00:53:20,530
And maybe we were too close at that point.

844
00:53:21,448 --> 00:53:24,242
And so, yeah,
shortly after that, I got removed.

845
00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:31,666
I actually… I don't think
I've spoken to her since.

846
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:39,591
And Britney had met a bunch of my friends.

847
00:53:39,674 --> 00:53:44,721
You know? She had, you know,
like sort of come into my life.

848
00:53:44,804 --> 00:53:50,435
And, you know, it was just sad to think
that she was gonna be alone again.

849
00:53:56,107 --> 00:53:58,109
[pensive music playing]

850
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,565
[Eliscu] In January of 2009,
I went to L.A. for the winter,

851
00:54:38,066 --> 00:54:40,318
and I had made contact with Sam Lutfi.

852
00:54:41,152 --> 00:54:44,990
He'd been a good background source
for the Rolling Stone cover story,

853
00:54:45,073 --> 00:54:47,867
and we had kept in touch
even after it came out.

854
00:54:48,451 --> 00:54:51,705
Then he told me about the fact
that he and Adnan had been trying

855
00:54:51,788 --> 00:54:55,959
to come up with a plan
to help her find a different lawyer.

856
00:54:57,585 --> 00:55:01,631
She still, in January of 2009,

857
00:55:01,715 --> 00:55:06,052
still wanted a different lawyer
if she could get one.

858
00:55:06,136 --> 00:55:09,556
This was a full year
of the conservatorship

859
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:11,766
supposedly having saved her life.

860
00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:15,061
They had been talking to different lawyers

861
00:55:15,145 --> 00:55:19,107
who thought that if they could get her
to sign this document

862
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:23,570
saying why she wanted a new lawyer
and why she wanted the specific lawyer

863
00:55:23,653 --> 00:55:26,740
that that would be something
that would just have to happen then

864
00:55:26,823 --> 00:55:29,868
and there would be no way to refute it.

865
00:55:31,244 --> 00:55:34,456
At that time, Sam and Adnan
were persona non grata.

866
00:55:34,539 --> 00:55:38,335
They had been completely forbidden
from having access to Britney.

867
00:55:39,294 --> 00:55:41,463
And within days of me arriving in L.A.,

868
00:55:41,546 --> 00:55:44,883
Sam started talking about trying
to get her to sign this thing

869
00:55:44,966 --> 00:55:47,344
and trying to find someone
who might get her to sign.

870
00:55:48,386 --> 00:55:54,059
I can't say there was a specific moment
that convinced me to do it.

871
00:55:54,601 --> 00:55:58,521
Of course, I was concerned about being
a participant in the story

872
00:55:58,605 --> 00:56:01,316
I was trying to cover objectively.

873
00:56:01,399 --> 00:56:06,279
But, at that point, I had known
Britney Spears for a decade almost,

874
00:56:06,363 --> 00:56:12,660
so I cared about her in a human way that
there was no denying it at that point,

875
00:56:12,744 --> 00:56:17,082
that I could be more useful
as a Good Samaritan almost

876
00:56:17,165 --> 00:56:21,211
than another journalist trying
to cover the story.

877
00:56:21,294 --> 00:56:23,963
[man] Anything to say
about the conservatorship today?

878
00:56:24,464 --> 00:56:28,968
[Eliscu] Sam explained to me
that I would need to go to the Montage

879
00:56:29,052 --> 00:56:31,930
and she would be waiting for me.

880
00:56:32,013 --> 00:56:35,225
And she would know
to come meet me in the bathroom.

881
00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:39,771
I just walked in thinking,
"Pretend I'm a guest."

882
00:56:39,854 --> 00:56:45,110
I took the elevator up and I walked out
and I saw Edon, her security guard,

883
00:56:45,193 --> 00:56:48,613
up there and maybe one other,
like, security-looking dude.

884
00:56:49,364 --> 00:56:53,952
She was just in the pool by herself.
Just leaning on the edge of the pool.

885
00:56:54,035 --> 00:56:58,123
Um, and I kind of gave her
a little side-eye and saw her see me,

886
00:56:58,206 --> 00:57:01,084
and then went into this small bathroom.

887
00:57:01,167 --> 00:57:05,630
I went into the stall, closed the door,
and got the papers and the pen ready,

888
00:57:05,713 --> 00:57:09,217
and saw her tattoo
on her foot or ankle or whatever it is,

889
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:15,140
and opened the door and I showed her
the spots where she needed to sign.

890
00:57:15,223 --> 00:57:18,393
And she signed and looked at me
and said, "Thank you."

891
00:57:18,476 --> 00:57:19,686
And I said…

892
00:57:30,196 --> 00:57:33,533
I said, "I'll see you again. Go."

893
00:57:36,161 --> 00:57:41,040
Yeah, she definitely seemed scared.
It was hard to tell 'cause I was scared.

894
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,963
But she was appreciative, which was,
like, such classic kind of her vibe to be,

895
00:57:47,046 --> 00:57:50,133
in that moment to be scared
but to also be grateful, you know?

896
00:57:50,216 --> 00:57:52,218
[eerie music playing]

897
00:58:32,884 --> 00:58:35,512
I thought the documents were
gonna be delivered right away.

898
00:58:35,595 --> 00:58:39,432
I was told there would be
an ex parte hearing to address this,

899
00:58:39,516 --> 00:58:40,808
but then days passed

900
00:58:40,892 --> 00:58:45,438
and Britney was supposed
to go on a trip somewhere with her dad.

901
00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:48,775
And we thought that when he sees
that she signed it,

902
00:58:48,858 --> 00:58:51,236
he'll know that things are gonna change.

903
00:58:52,278 --> 00:58:55,615
I couldn't believe it when I found out,
about a week later,

904
00:58:55,698 --> 00:59:01,579
that it was all over and that, similar to
what had happened with Adam Streisand,

905
00:59:01,663 --> 00:59:03,331
that it had been ruled

906
00:59:03,414 --> 00:59:07,252
that she lacked
the capacity to choose a lawyer

907
00:59:07,335 --> 00:59:11,881
and that they had cast enough doubt
on to whether that was her signature.

908
00:59:14,259 --> 00:59:16,052
I never heard anything of it again.

909
00:59:16,636 --> 00:59:18,930
No one ever talked about it again,

910
00:59:20,014 --> 00:59:23,351
and still no one really talks
about the fact

911
00:59:23,434 --> 00:59:27,564
that there was another attempt
to get a lawyer

912
00:59:27,647 --> 00:59:29,399
that somehow didn't work out.

913
00:59:31,442 --> 00:59:35,113
[Carr] But someone else knew
about the incident at the Montage.

914
00:59:35,196 --> 00:59:39,993
Seven days after Britney signed the papers
saying she wanted new representation,

915
00:59:40,076 --> 00:59:43,413
the court-appointed lawyer
for the conservatorship, Sam Ingham,

916
00:59:43,496 --> 00:59:46,791
stated that Britney told him
she'd met with a reporter

917
00:59:46,874 --> 00:59:51,296
from Rolling Stone to sign documents
about acquiring new counsel.

918
00:59:54,132 --> 00:59:56,926
He went on to say,
"Britney does not wish to do that,"

919
00:59:57,010 --> 01:00:01,055
and asked him to do whatever is necessary
to "squash the document."

920
01:00:01,139 --> 01:00:03,099
She further stated that she was,

921
01:00:03,182 --> 01:00:06,728
"Fully satisfied
with my representation of her."

922
01:00:08,187 --> 01:00:13,067
That same day, the attorney she had tried
to hire, John Anderson, withdrew, stating,

923
01:00:13,151 --> 01:00:17,780
"I can say no more; will do no more."
And, "That is the end for me."

924
01:00:19,449 --> 01:00:23,745
It was another time that Britney had tried
to seek her own representation

925
01:00:23,828 --> 01:00:25,496
and it failed.

926
01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:32,211
[Chicotel] It's the conservatee's attorney
is the one person in this system

927
01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:36,549
who is tasked with making
the conservatee's best case

928
01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:38,718
for whatever the conservatee wants.

929
01:00:38,801 --> 01:00:41,804
I've seen so many instances
where those attorneys

930
01:00:41,888 --> 01:00:44,057
are not representing
what their clients want.

931
01:00:45,266 --> 01:00:50,563
[Streisand] Keep in mind that the only way
that Sam Ingham gets paid

932
01:00:50,647 --> 01:00:54,359
is he has to file a petition
with the court,

933
01:00:54,442 --> 01:00:57,278
and then the conservator have
the right to object

934
01:00:57,362 --> 01:01:00,323
to him getting paid
or the fees he's asking for.

935
01:01:00,406 --> 01:01:04,118
Obviously, there is
a natural tendency to say,

936
01:01:04,202 --> 01:01:08,081
"Well, I certainly don't want
to be pissing off the people

937
01:01:08,164 --> 01:01:11,793
who are gonna have the ability
to object to me getting paid."

938
01:01:13,127 --> 01:01:16,172
[Carr] What is your reaction to knowing
that a court-appointed attorney

939
01:01:16,255 --> 01:01:20,843
is making over 3 million dollars,
like as-- In this position?

940
01:01:21,803 --> 01:01:25,973
My reaction is that he's on a gravy train
and he'll ride it all the way to the end.

941
01:01:29,310 --> 01:01:31,896
[man] Are you concerned
for Britney's mental health?

942
01:01:31,979 --> 01:01:33,147
[Carr] By early 2009,

943
01:01:33,231 --> 01:01:37,026
Jamie Spears asked that the temporary
conservatorship of his daughter

944
01:01:37,110 --> 01:01:38,403
be made permanent.

945
01:01:39,028 --> 01:01:42,573
And there was a range
of new specific powers and privileges

946
01:01:42,657 --> 01:01:44,826
that would be given
to the conservatorship,

947
01:01:46,536 --> 01:01:50,665
spanning from using funds from the estate
to pay for a car for Jamie…

948
01:01:51,666 --> 01:01:56,421
to giving him more complete control
over Britney's personal finances.

949
01:01:58,965 --> 01:02:02,552
Perhaps most importantly, though,
the permanent conservatorship

950
01:02:02,635 --> 01:02:07,765
would allow Jamie to pursue professional
opportunities available to Britney

951
01:02:07,849 --> 01:02:10,518
once they're approved by her medical team.

952
01:02:14,439 --> 01:02:17,442
-["Circus" playing over speakers]
-[scatting]

953
01:02:25,825 --> 01:02:28,411
Britney was preparing for a huge tour,

954
01:02:28,494 --> 01:02:31,998
whatever concerns
the conservatorship's medical team had

955
01:02:32,081 --> 01:02:35,710
about her health and overworking
seemed to be forgotten.

956
01:02:39,672 --> 01:02:42,759
[Eliscu] First off, ticket sales
are going phenomenally well.

957
01:02:42,842 --> 01:02:47,013
Sales have generated about 40 million.

958
01:02:48,389 --> 01:02:51,684
Second, there seems
to be an opportunity to add two shows

959
01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:55,772
at the end of the U.S. leg
on very attractive financial terms.

960
01:02:55,855 --> 01:02:58,691
So this is before the Circus tour.

961
01:02:59,734 --> 01:03:03,780
They don't even know yet
if she's gonna be, like, okay to tour,

962
01:03:03,863 --> 01:03:05,615
-but they're adding more dates.
-Right.

963
01:03:05,698 --> 01:03:09,577
They went from temporary conservatorship
to permanent conservatorship,

964
01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:11,996
and Circus was that year.

965
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:17,043
So us noting that there was
financial incentives for Larry, for Jamie,

966
01:03:17,126 --> 01:03:22,048
for the lawyers to get her working,
A, but get her working more.

967
01:03:22,715 --> 01:03:24,383
[audience cheering]

968
01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:29,138
[Carr] The Circus tour was performed
over the course of nine months

969
01:03:29,222 --> 01:03:32,141
and totaled 70 shows spanning the world.

970
01:03:33,017 --> 01:03:36,521
[Eliscu] I've had people tell me
that there were conversations explicitly 

971
01:03:36,604 --> 01:03:39,315
about how quickly she could come back.

972
01:03:39,398 --> 01:03:41,943
They probably felt like it was important

973
01:03:42,026 --> 01:03:45,947
to show her looking healthy and okay
as quickly as possible

974
01:03:46,030 --> 01:03:49,909
to prove that what they decided to do
was the right decision.

975
01:03:49,992 --> 01:03:51,160
[man] Britney!

976
01:03:51,244 --> 01:03:52,370
Britney!

977
01:03:52,995 --> 01:03:56,082
[Gallery] There's nothing relaxing
about being on a tour.

978
01:03:58,209 --> 01:03:59,836
Flying all over the world,

979
01:03:59,919 --> 01:04:02,672
being in different countries
every few days.

980
01:04:02,755 --> 01:04:04,924
[reporter] Are you sick
of your dad being conservator?

981
01:04:05,007 --> 01:04:09,303
[Gallery] I can only imagine how stressful
and challenging that might be for her.

982
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,144
Was she in the right mental state
to put all that time and energy

983
01:04:17,228 --> 01:04:22,316
into doing a whole--? Revamping her
entire career and doing this comeback?

984
01:04:25,361 --> 01:04:26,737
It's like, that's hard.

985
01:04:28,364 --> 01:04:32,994
We've had, on background, conversations
with people who were on the tour.

986
01:04:33,077 --> 01:04:37,582
They said it was a mess.
They said it was bad for Britney's health.

987
01:04:37,665 --> 01:04:38,833
[audience cheering]

988
01:04:38,916 --> 01:04:41,794
[Carr] The conservatorship stated
that they had successfully added

989
01:04:41,878 --> 01:04:44,922
financial growth
and stability to Britney's life.

990
01:04:48,259 --> 01:04:50,803
"Her main focus,
almost to the point of obsession,

991
01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:52,930
was getting more time with her children."

992
01:04:53,472 --> 01:04:57,518
"Her second preoccupation was
whether the conservatorship would end

993
01:04:57,602 --> 01:05:01,230
and whether her father Jamie Spears would
be more lenient with her privileges."

994
01:05:01,314 --> 01:05:06,861
Oh, man. She gets an allowance,
she's got "privileges,"

995
01:05:06,944 --> 01:05:09,655
and her daddy is in charge.

996
01:05:10,448 --> 01:05:11,991
That's the patriarchy.

997
01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:14,327
[groans]

998
01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:16,621
[somber music playing]

999
01:05:18,122 --> 01:05:19,790
[Britney squealing]

1000
01:05:24,128 --> 01:05:26,839
[Carr] In 2009,
Britney had a new boyfriend.

1001
01:05:27,506 --> 01:05:29,926
It was her agent, Jason Trawick.

1002
01:05:32,637 --> 01:05:34,347
[Jamie] You need to go over there.

1003
01:05:34,430 --> 01:05:37,892
If you don't go over, we're gonna leave.
Y'all ain't gonna get no pictures.

1004
01:05:44,357 --> 01:05:45,858
[Carr] By the fall of 2011,

1005
01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:48,778
he was featured
in Britney's music video "Criminal."

1006
01:05:48,861 --> 01:05:52,365
[man groans, grunts]

1007
01:05:52,448 --> 01:05:56,410
[Carr] Jason, newly buff,
played her outlaw boyfriend.

1008
01:05:56,494 --> 01:05:57,620
-You okay?
-Yeah.

1009
01:05:58,996 --> 01:05:59,997
Wait.

1010
01:06:03,125 --> 01:06:05,211
-Now I'm okay.
-[engine revving]

1011
01:06:05,294 --> 01:06:09,632
Jason was, like, a very smart,
very sweet, very caring…

1012
01:06:09,715 --> 01:06:13,010
Like, he was one of the guys
that I would confide in,

1013
01:06:13,094 --> 01:06:16,097
and we would talk
about all that was happening.

1014
01:06:16,180 --> 01:06:18,057
We both had an objective point of view

1015
01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:22,061
because, at the time, neither of us
were dating her or engaged to her

1016
01:06:22,144 --> 01:06:23,688
or anything like that.

1017
01:06:23,771 --> 01:06:27,316
♪ 'Cause mama I'm in love
With a criminal ♪

1018
01:06:28,067 --> 01:06:30,736
♪ And this type of love isn't rational ♪

1019
01:06:30,820 --> 01:06:34,991
To see the role that he transitioned into,

1020
01:06:35,074 --> 01:06:37,368
I mean, again, it's like,
I never would've seen that coming.

1021
01:06:37,451 --> 01:06:39,578
[woman over speakers]
Bet you know what that means.

1022
01:06:40,121 --> 01:06:41,789
[crowd] Britney!

1023
01:06:46,585 --> 01:06:50,506
[Eliscu] So this is from a doctor
with the conservatorship to Sam Ingham.

1024
01:06:50,589 --> 01:06:54,218
"I had an interview
and assessment session with Jason."

1025
01:06:54,301 --> 01:06:58,347
"I found him to be forthcoming and open,
though fearful that whatever he said

1026
01:06:58,431 --> 01:07:01,183
might be held against him
or place him at odds with others

1027
01:07:01,267 --> 01:07:03,561
with whom he might need
to get along in the future."

1028
01:07:04,061 --> 01:07:06,355
"He appears to be genuinely
in love with Britney."

1029
01:07:06,439 --> 01:07:10,818
"His philosophy is Britney will have
to learn to live without a conservator."

1030
01:07:10,901 --> 01:07:13,612
"He feels that the present arrangement
is too constrictive."

1031
01:07:13,696 --> 01:07:16,824
"Jason states inconveniences
Britney has to go through

1032
01:07:16,907 --> 01:07:18,200
under the conservatorship."

1033
01:07:18,284 --> 01:07:21,829
"For example, they wanted to drive
within a gated community on a golf cart,

1034
01:07:21,912 --> 01:07:24,373
but have to ask permission each time."

1035
01:07:24,457 --> 01:07:27,084
"If they want to go out
to a hamburger joint,

1036
01:07:27,168 --> 01:07:30,796
they have to call for permission and wait
20 minutes or more for an answer."

1037
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,592
"If Britney needs a few hundred dollars
to buy books for her kids,

1038
01:07:34,675 --> 01:07:38,429
she has to ask
and wait a few days for an answer."

1039
01:07:38,512 --> 01:07:42,183
This was right after Britney finished
the huge, giant tour.

1040
01:07:42,266 --> 01:07:44,143
That was Femme Fatale.

1041
01:07:45,019 --> 01:07:46,520
What the fuck?

1042
01:07:47,146 --> 01:07:48,481
Look at the next page.

1043
01:07:49,690 --> 01:07:51,150
"Toward the end of the tour,

1044
01:07:51,233 --> 01:07:54,111
significant tensions arose between
Jamie Spears,

1045
01:07:54,195 --> 01:07:56,697
Britney's father and conservator,
and Britney."

1046
01:07:56,781 --> 01:07:58,491
[Carr] Right, and then look at this.

1047
01:07:58,574 --> 01:08:00,910
"Britney began to complain
about Jamie's drinking."

1048
01:08:00,993 --> 01:08:03,829
"She is especially adamant
that Jamie be punished."

1049
01:08:03,913 --> 01:08:06,499
"This seems to be a lightning rod
for all of her complaints

1050
01:08:06,582 --> 01:08:08,459
about the conservatorship itself."

1051
01:08:08,542 --> 01:08:13,339
"In a simple way, she feels that
if she is drug tested, so should he be."

1052
01:08:13,422 --> 01:08:16,926
"If she were to suffer a great penalty,
like losing her kids,

1053
01:08:17,009 --> 01:08:18,844
if she tested positive,

1054
01:08:18,928 --> 01:08:22,056
he should suffer an equally
great penalty for his drinking."

1055
01:08:22,139 --> 01:08:26,977
And this is again, the most sort of,
some of the most damning stuff.

1056
01:08:27,061 --> 01:08:29,522
"Britney wants to come off
the conservatorship."

1057
01:08:29,605 --> 01:08:32,233
[dramatic music playing]

1058
01:08:32,316 --> 01:08:35,903
"At times, she seems to understand
the benefits of the conservatorship."

1059
01:08:35,986 --> 01:08:40,407
"She indicates she would go along
with the conservatorship of the estate,

1060
01:08:40,491 --> 01:08:44,161
but mostly she wants to end
the conservatorship of the person."

1061
01:08:46,330 --> 01:08:49,708
The conservatorship has maintained
Britney has never once asked for it

1062
01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:52,962
to be terminated
and that if it was that bad,

1063
01:08:53,045 --> 01:08:54,630
she would tell people about it.

1064
01:08:54,713 --> 01:09:00,052
But we have here in evidence that
she wanted out of the conservatorship,

1065
01:09:00,136 --> 01:09:03,097
that she was vocalizing that need,
and that it was ignored.

1066
01:09:04,265 --> 01:09:05,099
[man exclaims]

1067
01:09:05,182 --> 01:09:09,645
[all] ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

1068
01:09:09,728 --> 01:09:10,563
Really?

1069
01:09:11,730 --> 01:09:15,317
[Carr] In December 2011,
Britney and Jason became engaged.

1070
01:09:16,527 --> 01:09:20,531
Four months later, she requested
Jason be added as her conservator.

1071
01:09:22,032 --> 01:09:24,451
But instead of Jason replacing Jamie,

1072
01:09:24,535 --> 01:09:27,705
the court ruled
in what could be considered a compromise.

1073
01:09:28,414 --> 01:09:32,418
Jason Trawick and Jamie
are made co-conservators

1074
01:09:32,501 --> 01:09:34,128
versus Jamie being removed.

1075
01:09:34,211 --> 01:09:36,422
[Eliscu] Which just feels so weird.

1076
01:09:36,505 --> 01:09:39,175
At the time,
I thought that it was interesting

1077
01:09:39,258 --> 01:09:42,928
that Jamie would give over
even that small amount of control

1078
01:09:43,012 --> 01:09:47,057
to someone theoretically new
or a non-family member.

1079
01:09:49,143 --> 01:09:53,230
[Carr] With her father and fiancé
as co-conservators of her person,

1080
01:09:53,314 --> 01:09:58,027
Britney inked a reported $15 million deal
to judge X Factor.

1081
01:09:58,652 --> 01:10:01,614
Behind the scenes,
confidential reports given to us

1082
01:10:01,697 --> 01:10:04,533
showed that the conservatorship
was in chaos.

1083
01:10:04,617 --> 01:10:09,246
The medical team thought that X Factor
put undue pressure on Britney,

1084
01:10:09,747 --> 01:10:13,542
whereas her management said
that withdrawing would be just as bad

1085
01:10:13,626 --> 01:10:15,836
as a publicly observed meltdown.

1086
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,839
Under intense pressure
from Britney's management,

1087
01:10:18,923 --> 01:10:22,843
the medical team cautiously
approved Britney's participation,

1088
01:10:22,927 --> 01:10:28,057
but said there would be strict guidelines
for their approval to stay in place,

1089
01:10:29,266 --> 01:10:33,395
which included that Jason Trawick's
presence was, quote, "mandatory."

1090
01:10:34,855 --> 01:10:39,276
And then the big bombshell is
that we have direct evidence

1091
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:44,031
that her medication,
the medication that she liked to take,

1092
01:10:44,114 --> 01:10:46,450
was increased if she worked.

1093
01:10:46,533 --> 01:10:49,161
There's different dosages on,

1094
01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:52,831
quote-unquote,
"non-work days and work days."

1095
01:10:52,915 --> 01:10:54,124
[Carr] Look at the next page.

1096
01:10:54,833 --> 01:10:57,002
[Eliscu] "On the one hand,
Jamie and the team

1097
01:10:57,086 --> 01:11:00,631
valued the benefits of stimulants
for Britney's performance."

1098
01:11:00,714 --> 01:11:05,552
"This had been the case for her tours
and for her participation on X Factor."

1099
01:11:05,636 --> 01:11:09,765
"By the same token, Jamie wanted
Britney not to take stimulants."

1100
01:11:11,225 --> 01:11:13,727
"This contradiction
has not been resolved."

1101
01:11:14,687 --> 01:11:16,021
[audience cheering]

1102
01:11:21,193 --> 01:11:22,945
[Carr] From the public's perspective,

1103
01:11:23,028 --> 01:11:26,156
Britney's performance
on The X Factor was a success.

1104
01:11:27,616 --> 01:11:31,578
Less than a year later, though,
Britney and Jason would break up,

1105
01:11:31,662 --> 01:11:36,000
making Jamie the sole conservator
of the person once again.

1106
01:11:36,083 --> 01:11:38,585
[Eliscu] "On the subject
of X Factor itself,

1107
01:11:38,669 --> 01:11:41,880
there is estimated to be a 50-50 chance
they will invite her to return,

1108
01:11:41,964 --> 01:11:44,258
but at this time
it appears that she would decline."

1109
01:11:44,341 --> 01:11:48,304
"Instead, her current plan is
to create a Las Vegas-style revue

1110
01:11:48,387 --> 01:11:52,099
to perform at a Las Vegas hotel
over three- or four-day weekend dates

1111
01:11:52,182 --> 01:11:53,559
once or twice a month."

1112
01:11:53,642 --> 01:11:55,019
What does it say right after that?

1113
01:11:55,102 --> 01:11:57,271
"I believe this is
an appropriate career move

1114
01:11:57,354 --> 01:11:59,773
from the perspective
of her psychiatric condition."

1115
01:11:59,857 --> 01:12:01,567
-[audience cheering]
-It's so hot.

1116
01:12:02,318 --> 01:12:04,445
Okay, so…

1117
01:12:05,321 --> 01:12:08,657
being single for a year…

1118
01:12:09,783 --> 01:12:10,617
Yeah!

1119
01:12:11,368 --> 01:12:14,830
…has been very, very, very profound.

1120
01:12:15,497 --> 01:12:20,044
And I feel like
all men should suck my toe.

1121
01:12:20,586 --> 01:12:24,006
[Carr] Britney's Vegas residency
started in 2013,

1122
01:12:24,089 --> 01:12:26,008
and it was called Piece of Me.

1123
01:12:26,091 --> 01:12:30,304
The show would span five years
and culminate in a world tour.

1124
01:12:30,387 --> 01:12:33,932
Very little is known about
Britney's life during this time period.

1125
01:12:34,016 --> 01:12:37,311
The conservatorship kept
her inner circle very small.

1126
01:12:37,936 --> 01:12:40,022
Candid Britney interviews were rare.

1127
01:12:40,105 --> 01:12:43,442
Unguarded public moments
only seemed to happen

1128
01:12:43,525 --> 01:12:45,861
when she was talking to her audience.

1129
01:12:45,944 --> 01:12:50,240
Honestly, without the music,
just the mic, it kind of feels illegal.

1130
01:12:50,324 --> 01:12:53,077
Like it's quiet right now, and it--

1131
01:12:53,911 --> 01:12:57,831
It feels kind of illegal doing this
with this mic in my hand now.

1132
01:12:57,915 --> 01:12:59,291
It feels so weird.

1133
01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:03,796
Okay, so the press and the media,
my whole life, it's really crazy,

1134
01:13:03,879 --> 01:13:08,008
'cause one minute they tear you down
and they're really horrible,

1135
01:13:08,092 --> 01:13:10,969
and the next minute,
you're on top of the world you know?

1136
01:13:11,595 --> 01:13:13,639
But I just want to make sure

1137
01:13:13,722 --> 01:13:17,393
I keep handing you motherfuckers
something to talk about, okay?

1138
01:13:17,476 --> 01:13:19,478
[audience cheering]

1139
01:13:19,561 --> 01:13:21,980
[upbeat music starts playing]

1140
01:13:22,064 --> 01:13:24,191
[Carr] What was it like going
to the Vegas show?

1141
01:13:24,274 --> 01:13:27,694
[Baron] When she found out I was there,
she wanted to see me backstage.

1142
01:13:27,778 --> 01:13:33,867
And it was like we both just immediately
just embraced and just cried,

1143
01:13:33,951 --> 01:13:36,578
just sat there and cried and locked arms.

1144
01:13:36,662 --> 01:13:39,331
We hadn't seen each other in years,
hadn't spoken.

1145
01:13:39,415 --> 01:13:43,460
And when I saw her,
it's like something in her eyes,

1146
01:13:43,544 --> 01:13:46,380
it was like the old Britney,
I guess you can say.

1147
01:13:46,463 --> 01:13:50,801
It was as if we were right back
to where we were many, many years before.

1148
01:13:50,884 --> 01:13:53,720
I think that's why
we both broke down and cried.

1149
01:13:53,804 --> 01:13:56,515
And her bodyguard
walked me back to my seat,

1150
01:13:56,598 --> 01:13:59,685
and he said to me,
I remember this, he said, um…

1151
01:14:00,519 --> 01:14:03,313
He goes, "I don't know
what you just did to her

1152
01:14:03,397 --> 01:14:07,151
and what your relationship was like,
but can you come back more?"

1153
01:14:07,234 --> 01:14:11,071
"In the nine years I've worked for her,
I've never seen her smile like that."

1154
01:14:12,865 --> 01:14:16,368
There aren't a lot of people in her life
that are from those days.

1155
01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:19,246
It's myself, Felicia
and a couple other people.

1156
01:14:22,583 --> 01:14:26,545
I got called back to do Circus Tour,
Femme Fatale,

1157
01:14:26,628 --> 01:14:28,672
and then the four years in Vegas.

1158
01:14:28,755 --> 01:14:31,341
I had much less contact with her.

1159
01:14:31,425 --> 01:14:34,720
But I made sure, every show,
she knew I was there.

1160
01:14:34,803 --> 01:14:37,431
[Carr] And then did she continue
to love performing?

1161
01:14:37,514 --> 01:14:39,475
I mean, it's such an intense schedule.

1162
01:14:39,558 --> 01:14:42,269
What was her relationship like
with performing?

1163
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:46,857
Britney loved performing.

1164
01:14:47,357 --> 01:14:50,652
Hands down,
still to this second, loves performing.

1165
01:14:51,820 --> 01:14:52,821
Um…

1166
01:14:53,489 --> 01:14:56,492
I think that's probably as much
as I can say about that.

1167
01:14:57,159 --> 01:14:57,993
[softly] Sorry.

1168
01:14:58,535 --> 01:15:01,914
I don't want to fight with them.
It's not worth it to me.

1169
01:15:02,581 --> 01:15:03,582
I'm sorry.

1170
01:15:05,083 --> 01:15:07,419
[ominous music playing]

1171
01:15:07,503 --> 01:15:11,882
[Carr] The one thing we know for sure
is that Britney worked almost nonstop

1172
01:15:11,965 --> 01:15:14,676
and made other people a lot of money.

1173
01:15:59,263 --> 01:16:04,101
[announcer] All right, everyone. We are
here to welcome the new queen of Vegas!

1174
01:16:04,184 --> 01:16:08,981
[Carr] In January 2019, Britney announced
a new Vegas residency.

1175
01:16:09,064 --> 01:16:11,275
It would be called Domination.

1176
01:16:11,358 --> 01:16:13,151
[audience cheering]

1177
01:16:14,736 --> 01:16:18,073
[announcer]
Ladies and gentlemen, Britney Spears!

1178
01:16:18,156 --> 01:16:20,576
[Carr]
When she walked down the red carpet,

1179
01:16:20,659 --> 01:16:23,620
it felt like she was almost
about to say something.

1180
01:16:23,704 --> 01:16:24,997
But then she didn't.

1181
01:16:27,791 --> 01:16:29,960
Three months later, via Instagram,

1182
01:16:30,544 --> 01:16:34,172
Britney would cancel the show,
citing family health concerns.

1183
01:16:35,299 --> 01:16:37,134
And the world was watching.

1184
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,932
That was a huge moment when
the fan community began to suspect

1185
01:16:44,016 --> 01:16:47,978
that something weird was going on in 2019.

1186
01:16:48,061 --> 01:16:52,899
There was even, like, missing posters
being shared around social media.

1187
01:16:52,983 --> 01:16:56,028
Kind of as a joke, but also like
we literally haven't seen her

1188
01:16:56,111 --> 01:16:58,071
in, like, weeks, if not months.

1189
01:16:58,155 --> 01:17:00,949
And cut to April 2019,

1190
01:17:01,033 --> 01:17:06,330
we find out that Britney was placed into
a mental health facility against her will.

1191
01:17:06,413 --> 01:17:11,043
That's what is believed, and she was being
given medication she did not wanna take.

1192
01:17:12,169 --> 01:17:16,506
I know that there are a lot of voices

1193
01:17:16,590 --> 01:17:19,343
I've heard from many different quarters

1194
01:17:19,426 --> 01:17:24,598
that Britney is being held as a prisoner,
in effect, against her will.

1195
01:17:25,182 --> 01:17:29,311
And when I've been asked
do I think that's accurate,

1196
01:17:29,978 --> 01:17:33,774
I think you have to say to yourself

1197
01:17:33,857 --> 01:17:39,988
it's not as if Los Angeles is
some type of fascist gulag,

1198
01:17:40,072 --> 01:17:43,283
where, in order to get a message
to the outside world,

1199
01:17:43,367 --> 01:17:47,537
you have to write it down
on a piece of birch bark and in code,

1200
01:17:47,621 --> 01:17:51,958
then throw it over an electrified fence
to an unsuspecting gardener.

1201
01:17:52,042 --> 01:17:55,879
If she wanted to get a message out
as far as being held against her will,

1202
01:17:55,962 --> 01:17:59,675
I can't even imagine
the numbers of ways she can do that.

1203
01:18:00,467 --> 01:18:04,971
[Carr] Eventually, Britney resurfaced
via an Instagram video.

1204
01:18:05,555 --> 01:18:09,893
Hi, guys. Just checking in with all of you
who are concerned. All is well.

1205
01:18:09,976 --> 01:18:13,021
My family has been going through
a lot of stress and anxiety lately,

1206
01:18:13,105 --> 01:18:17,192
so I just needed time to deal.
Don't worry, I'll be back very soon.

1207
01:18:17,693 --> 01:18:20,862
[Carr] The video only increased
public speculation.

1208
01:18:21,363 --> 01:18:24,199
What was going on
inside the conservatorship,

1209
01:18:24,282 --> 01:18:27,494
and why was she in one
if she was, quote, "okay"?

1210
01:18:37,212 --> 01:18:39,881
[Eliscu] We know that in summer of 2019,

1211
01:18:39,965 --> 01:18:44,511
after there was already beginning to be
some chaos in the conservatorship

1212
01:18:44,594 --> 01:18:48,390
for the first time in more than a decade,
that there was an incident

1213
01:18:48,473 --> 01:18:52,728
where a confrontation occurred
between Jamie and one of Britney's sons.

1214
01:18:52,811 --> 01:18:56,440
And Kevin Federline, you know,
his father and Britney's ex,

1215
01:18:56,523 --> 01:18:58,483
had a restraining order filed
against Jamie,

1216
01:18:58,567 --> 01:19:02,738
such that he's not allowed
to be in the presence of the children

1217
01:19:02,821 --> 01:19:05,699
for a specified period of years.

1218
01:19:05,782 --> 01:19:08,827
[Carr] What's been in public record
is there was an altercation,

1219
01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:12,539
a door was broken down,
one of her sons was shaken.

1220
01:19:13,415 --> 01:19:19,296
Um, the restraining order was based
on an unauthorized--

1221
01:19:20,005 --> 01:19:23,550
Uh, let's just say
it had to do with conduct

1222
01:19:23,633 --> 01:19:26,720
that put the children
in fear of their safety.

1223
01:19:26,845 --> 01:19:28,638
How did a door get broken?

1224
01:19:29,306 --> 01:19:30,140
Um…

1225
01:19:31,349 --> 01:19:34,311
I think a door was slammed in some regard,

1226
01:19:34,394 --> 01:19:38,774
and, uh, it caused the door to come off
the hinge or something in that regard.

1227
01:19:39,441 --> 01:19:41,443
[ominous music playing]

1228
01:19:47,783 --> 01:19:49,743
[Carr] At the end of 2019,

1229
01:19:49,826 --> 01:19:53,038
Lou Taylor resurfaced in court documents.

1230
01:19:53,121 --> 01:19:56,583
She had e-mailed Jamie,
saying her company, Tri Star,

1231
01:19:56,666 --> 01:20:01,129
had lost $400,000 in billing in 2019

1232
01:20:01,213 --> 01:20:03,799
for work as Britney's business manager.

1233
01:20:03,882 --> 01:20:07,761
She requested a minimum of $500,000.

1234
01:20:09,846 --> 01:20:12,724
Yet it was a time
when Britney wasn't working.

1235
01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:17,312
When Jamie was sent a bill
the month later,

1236
01:20:17,395 --> 01:20:19,231
he paid the funds the next day.

1237
01:20:22,776 --> 01:20:27,656
This is what Jamie Spears, in July 2020,

1238
01:20:27,739 --> 01:20:30,408
said of Britney Spears,

1239
01:20:30,492 --> 01:20:32,994
of the conservatorship
and the need for it.

1240
01:20:34,246 --> 01:20:35,497
Why don't we do here?

1241
01:20:36,540 --> 01:20:40,293
"James P. Spears respectfully submits
this status update

1242
01:20:40,377 --> 01:20:44,381
to provide information in advance of
and regarding some of the topics

1243
01:20:44,464 --> 01:20:46,508
that were addressed at the last hearing."

1244
01:20:46,591 --> 01:20:51,972
"The conservatee, Britney, has refused
to engage in any business activities,

1245
01:20:52,055 --> 01:20:56,017
including making a non-performing
appearance at a local pop-up store

1246
01:20:56,101 --> 01:20:59,312
dedicated to the conservatee,
where minimal effort was required,

1247
01:20:59,396 --> 01:21:03,191
resulting in the estate being required
to refund the advance it had received

1248
01:21:03,275 --> 01:21:05,569
in the amount of $1 million."

1249
01:21:05,652 --> 01:21:07,612
[Carr] "The conservatee's lack
of cooperation

1250
01:21:07,696 --> 01:21:09,155
in her own financial well-being

1251
01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:12,701
and preservation of her continued stature
as an iconic artist

1252
01:21:12,784 --> 01:21:15,036
has deteriorated rather than improved."

1253
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,080
"As a result
of the conservatee's trajectory,

1254
01:21:17,163 --> 01:21:19,666
Mr. Spears has been working
to establish a model

1255
01:21:19,749 --> 01:21:22,878
where Ms. Spear's
current lifestyle can be preserved

1256
01:21:22,961 --> 01:21:26,548
and her needs met
based solely on passive income."

1257
01:21:26,631 --> 01:21:28,592
"Given the state of the economy

1258
01:21:28,675 --> 01:21:31,094
and this enormous cost
of maintaining her lifestyle,

1259
01:21:31,177 --> 01:21:32,929
this is a tall order."

1260
01:21:33,013 --> 01:21:36,016
Her lifestyle,
which includes all these legal bills.

1261
01:21:42,105 --> 01:21:45,483
All of these interviews
and all of these hours talking to her

1262
01:21:45,567 --> 01:21:49,696
and describing her
and criticizing her and limiting her,

1263
01:21:49,779 --> 01:21:53,950
and none of this led to anything.

1264
01:21:54,034 --> 01:21:55,535
It just all stayed the same.

1265
01:21:55,619 --> 01:21:59,998
They could go into court a million times,
keep doing hearing after hearing,

1266
01:22:00,081 --> 01:22:02,918
filing after filing,
and analysis after analysis,

1267
01:22:03,001 --> 01:22:06,922
and never change anything,
and she's still in this situation.

1268
01:22:07,881 --> 01:22:09,591
-How do you get out?
-I just--

1269
01:22:10,258 --> 01:22:12,928
You don't get out until you scream.

1270
01:22:13,011 --> 01:22:15,013
[emotional music playing]

1271
01:22:31,655 --> 01:22:34,866
[Carr] If you were able to speak to her,
what would you tell her?

1272
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:36,076
What would you say?

1273
01:22:36,660 --> 01:22:38,370
[Gallery] I feel like,
maybe I'd apologize.

1274
01:22:38,453 --> 01:22:40,956
I feel like I didn't, you know, do enough,

1275
01:22:41,039 --> 01:22:44,042
and maybe I would just… let her know

1276
01:22:44,125 --> 01:22:47,545
that I felt bad about
not being able to help more.

1277
01:22:48,838 --> 01:22:52,217
I don't understand how the legal system
has let this go on for so long.

1278
01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:56,972
Maybe it's like the first one of its kind
and they don't know how to handle it,

1279
01:22:57,055 --> 01:22:59,683
but it seems like it's an epic fail
of the legal system

1280
01:22:59,766 --> 01:23:02,018
that this has gone on for so long

1281
01:23:02,102 --> 01:23:04,813
and that there's been no resolution even.

1282
01:23:04,896 --> 01:23:06,731
It just seems like it keeps getting worse.

1283
01:23:11,361 --> 01:23:16,366
It feels like something's gonna happen.
Definitely, something's gonna happen.

1284
01:23:17,701 --> 01:23:19,703
-[man] What do we want?
-[crowd] Free Britney!

1285
01:23:19,786 --> 01:23:21,287
-[man] When do we want it?
-[crowd] Now!

1286
01:23:21,371 --> 01:23:23,206
-[man] What do we want?
-[crowd] Free Britney!

1287
01:23:23,289 --> 01:23:25,458
-[man] When do we want it?
-[crowd] Now!

1288
01:23:26,001 --> 01:23:27,002
So you're in?

1289
01:23:27,877 --> 01:23:29,087
It's not playing anything.

1290
01:23:30,130 --> 01:23:31,715
It's 4:30. [laughs]

1291
01:23:31,798 --> 01:23:33,425
[groans]

1292
01:23:35,301 --> 01:23:37,470
[Carr] This is us trying
to get into the court hearing.

1293
01:23:37,554 --> 01:23:39,180
[Eliscu laughs]

1294
01:23:39,264 --> 01:23:40,348
[crowd] Free Britney now!

1295
01:23:40,432 --> 01:23:43,184
Today will be the first time
she will speak.

1296
01:23:43,268 --> 01:23:46,938
At stake is control
of the 39-year-old singer's career

1297
01:23:47,022 --> 01:23:49,232
and $60 million fortune.

1298
01:23:51,234 --> 01:23:53,236
[suspenseful music playing]

1299
01:23:59,659 --> 01:24:01,995
[inaudible dialogue]

1300
01:24:08,918 --> 01:24:13,715
Going through introductions-
slash-formalities, Britney says, quote,

1301
01:24:18,053 --> 01:24:20,555
[Britney] I have a lot to say,
so bear with me.

1302
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:26,895
I don't think I was heard on any level
when I came to court the last time.

1303
01:24:28,188 --> 01:24:31,107
I brought four sheets of paper in my hand
and wrote in length

1304
01:24:31,191 --> 01:24:34,152
what I had been through
the last four months before I came there.

1305
01:24:34,652 --> 01:24:38,323
The people who did that to me
should not be able to walk away so easily.

1306
01:24:38,406 --> 01:24:39,449
I'll recap.

1307
01:24:39,991 --> 01:24:43,119
I was on tour.
My management said if I don't do this,

1308
01:24:43,203 --> 01:24:45,413
I will have to find an attorney,
and by contract,

1309
01:24:45,497 --> 01:24:49,542
my own management could sue me
if I didn't follow through with the tour.

1310
01:24:49,626 --> 01:24:51,169
It was very threatening and scary,

1311
01:24:51,252 --> 01:24:54,214
and with the conservatorship,
I couldn't even get my own attorney.

1312
01:24:54,297 --> 01:24:57,133
So, out of fear,
I went ahead and I did the tour.

1313
01:24:57,634 --> 01:25:01,679
When I came off that tour, a new show
in Las Vegas was supposed to take place.

1314
01:25:01,763 --> 01:25:04,140
I started rehearsing early,
but it was hard

1315
01:25:04,224 --> 01:25:08,186
'cause I'd been doing Vegas for four years
and I needed a break in between.

1316
01:25:08,269 --> 01:25:11,940
But, no, I was told, "This is the timeline
and this is how it's gonna go."

1317
01:25:12,565 --> 01:25:15,401
I was basically directing
most of the show.

1318
01:25:15,485 --> 01:25:18,947
I taught my dancers
my new choreography myself.

1319
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:21,866
I wasn't good. I was great.

1320
01:25:22,742 --> 01:25:24,744
[dramatic music playing]

1321
01:25:28,248 --> 01:25:32,168
They said, if I don't want to do
the new Vegas show, I don't have to.

1322
01:25:32,252 --> 01:25:35,296
It was like lifting,
literally, 200 pounds off of me.

1323
01:25:36,631 --> 01:25:40,301
He immediately, the next day,
put me on lithium out of nowhere.

1324
01:25:40,385 --> 01:25:42,971
He took me off my normal meds
I'd been on for five years.

1325
01:25:43,054 --> 01:25:46,432
And lithium is a very, very strong
and completely different medication

1326
01:25:46,516 --> 01:25:47,976
compared to what I was used to.

1327
01:25:48,643 --> 01:25:51,062
Not only did my family not do
a goddamn thing,

1328
01:25:51,146 --> 01:25:52,605
my dad was all for it.

1329
01:25:53,398 --> 01:25:55,608
He loved every minute of it.

1330
01:25:55,692 --> 01:25:58,945
The control he had over someone
as powerful as me…

1331
01:26:00,321 --> 01:26:03,783
100,000% he loved it.

1332
01:26:05,994 --> 01:26:09,038
That's why I'm telling you this again,
two years later,

1333
01:26:09,122 --> 01:26:12,500
after I've lied and told the whole world
I'm okay and happy,

1334
01:26:12,584 --> 01:26:13,585
it's a lie.

1335
01:26:13,668 --> 01:26:17,172
I thought maybe I said that enough,
maybe I might become happy

1336
01:26:17,255 --> 01:26:19,966
because I've been in denial,
I've been in shock.

1337
01:26:20,049 --> 01:26:21,676
I am traumatized.

1338
01:26:22,343 --> 01:26:24,179
But now I'm telling you the truth.

1339
01:26:24,262 --> 01:26:25,972
I'm not happy. I can't sleep.

1340
01:26:26,055 --> 01:26:29,976
I'm so angry, it's insane.
And I'm depressed. I cry every day.

1341
01:26:30,059 --> 01:26:32,228
The reason I'm telling you this is
because I don't think

1342
01:26:32,312 --> 01:26:35,565
how the state of California can have
all this written in the court documents

1343
01:26:35,648 --> 01:26:37,984
from the time I showed up
and do absolutely nothing.

1344
01:26:38,067 --> 01:26:42,113
Ma'am, my dad and anyone involved
in this conservatorship should be in jail.

1345
01:26:42,780 --> 01:26:46,034
The last time I spoke to you,
it made me feel like I was dead,

1346
01:26:46,117 --> 01:26:47,452
like I didn't matter.

1347
01:26:47,535 --> 01:26:50,788
I'm telling you this again,
so maybe you can understand the depth

1348
01:26:50,872 --> 01:26:54,584
and the degree and the damage
that they did to me back then.

1349
01:26:54,667 --> 01:26:58,087
It's embarrassing and demoralizing
what I've been through,

1350
01:26:58,171 --> 01:27:00,882
and that's the main reason
I've never said it openly.

1351
01:27:00,965 --> 01:27:02,550
And I didn't want to say it openly

1352
01:27:02,634 --> 01:27:05,428
'cause I honestly didn't think
anyone would believe me.

1353
01:27:06,638 --> 01:27:09,933
I just want my life back.
It's been 13 years and it's enough.

1354
01:27:10,016 --> 01:27:13,061
It makes no sense whatsoever
for the state of California to sit back

1355
01:27:13,144 --> 01:27:16,564
and literally watch me make a living
for so many people

1356
01:27:16,648 --> 01:27:19,108
and be told I'm not good enough.

1357
01:27:19,943 --> 01:27:21,819
But I'm great at what I do.

1358
01:27:33,623 --> 01:27:37,126
[audience chanting]
Britney, Britney, Britney!

1359
01:27:38,086 --> 01:27:40,672
[Britney]
I feel ganged up on, and I feel bullied,

1360
01:27:40,755 --> 01:27:43,424
and I feel left out and alone.

1361
01:27:43,508 --> 01:27:45,760
And I'm tired of feeling alone.

1362
01:27:45,843 --> 01:27:48,680
I deserve to have the same rights
as anybody does

1363
01:27:48,763 --> 01:27:52,475
by having a child,
a family, any of those things.

1364
01:27:53,559 --> 01:27:55,186
That's all I wanted to say to you,

1365
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:58,147
and thank you so much
for letting me speak to you today.

1366
01:28:07,198 --> 01:28:09,200
[pensive music playing]

1367
01:29:45,630 --> 01:29:47,632
[pensive music continues]