1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:24,920 Can I ask you to move a little bit 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,000 this way, please. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Yes, that's perfect. 6 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,920 - Hi, I'm Freddie. 7 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,080 I am the Head Gardener, 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,480 and Secret Garden Party is all my fault. 9 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,040 Crazy, crazy ass motherfuckers. 10 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,080 Hot-housing of creative minds 11 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,360 and wreckheads together. 12 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,120 One of those places that everybody 13 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,520 looked forward to the whole year. 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,080 Secret Garden was always never really 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,416 about the bands or the headliners, 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,920 it was always about the fact that it's a party. 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,040 Being able to bear your chest and run wild. 18 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,000 Celebrating your uniqueness and your insanity. 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,280 - It kind of goes from really sort of slick, 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,160 and everyone looks great on Friday, 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,080 but by Sunday people are literally gaffer taping 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,840 a wig back onto their head. 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,000 - I was struck by the vibrancy 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,920 and kind of new frontier of the whole place. 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,160 You know, it was like a free party, 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,880 but it was a festival. 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,440 There were rules, but there weren't rules. 28 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,560 All good things must come to an end. 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,080 - It went from a baby to a city. 30 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,000 - Such a beautiful piece of land. 31 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,840 You don't want to cast scorn on the local landscape, 32 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,120 but it comes with a sort of surprise, 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,680 cause you're so aware of farming 34 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,400 as an industry around here. 35 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,480 And then in the middle of it, 36 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,640 there's this magic little paradise that people can turn up 37 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,120 and ruin over a weekend. 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:32,800 Thing with festivals is, like, 39 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:34,160 you work on them all year, 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,840 and then they only exist for three days. 41 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,840 We've got a medium sized town here. 42 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,600 A festival builds a city, a Brigadoon, 43 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,080 that pops up and disappears after four days. 44 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:51,360 It's the land more than anything. 45 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,440 You come here and you just get that magic feeling, you know. 46 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,536 And there were 300 people in the first year. 47 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,840 You couldn't have imagined that it would grow to this. 48 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,560 You go in and you can be a plumber, 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,160 an accountant, whatever. 50 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,880 And you come out as, you know, Queen of Swords or, 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,920 you know, whoever you fucking wanna be. 52 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,200 And that ability to inspire people to go 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,520 and make their own fun, that has become what people expect. 54 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,920 I suppose everyone who's into this scene 55 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,800 in one form or another can pinpoint that first moment 56 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,080 they came across that part of the counterculture 57 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,520 that really opened their eyes, blew their hair back. 58 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,840 For me, it was the late end of the raves. 59 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,880 - Often overlooked is the role that anarchic traveling, 60 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,080 free festivals played in the development of that culture, 61 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,240 you know. 62 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,760 50 People have been arrested, 63 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,680 and the police helicopter fired out with flares. 64 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,000 The travelers say they won't be moving on for a few days. 65 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,520 And tonight, the festival still appears to be in full swing. 66 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,160 We were in all the papers, you know. 67 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,760 We were called like the public enemy number one, you know. 68 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,280 We had like police and helicopters following us everywhere. 69 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,680 Secret Garden was really different in the sense that 70 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,880 it kind of somehow managed to put a lot of that kind of 71 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,200 crazy, diverse stuff into a slightly more commercial, 72 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,880 in serious inverted commas, setting, you know. 73 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,200 And for kind of another generation, actually. 74 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,240 How did it start? 75 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:55,160 - Kind of by accident, I suppose. 76 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,720 - I don't know your excuse, 77 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:15,600 but I literally had no other option for a decent job 78 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,200 or all, you know, street credit. 79 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,680 - We wanted to do a party. 80 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,000 We thought we would probably be quite good at it. 81 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,080 - We'd had the idea of what we thought made a good party, 82 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,800 which was all the idea of the toys and the involvement. 83 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,920 - The influence is an emphasis on participation 84 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,560 that didn't really exist in the UK much 85 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,480 in festival culture until Secret Garden Party 86 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,856 really took it to the next level, 87 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,136 where they basically said to everyone like, 88 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,280 "Don't come if you're not gonna get involved." 89 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,360 - It's about time and place. 90 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,880 The opportunity to be something different, 91 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 that exists only here and now. 92 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,120 And that's it. 93 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,576 - If you have a really great time and you are colorful 94 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,816 and you feel that you are part of the reason 95 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:02,320 it was a great party, 96 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,760 then those are the ones that you'll remember all your life. 97 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,080 - There's a moment when, however delinquent you are, 98 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,800 you finally realize that your parents are actually farmers. 99 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,800 We have here John and Alison. 100 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,360 - "Hi, do we have anywhere around us 101 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,320 that we could do this kind of batshit crazy scene?" 102 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,280 That's wax earplugs. 103 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,640 I hope. Or suppositories. 104 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,400 I was like, "Well there's the field 105 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,840 around the end of the lake." 106 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Shut the fucking front door. 107 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,256 - Fred took me down to the field and then he said, 108 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:57,400 "This is a beautiful field." 109 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,480 And I said, as a farmer, 110 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,640 it's not a very good field, actually. 111 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,416 And he said, "No, no, no. You're looking at it all wrong. 112 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,880 It's beautiful. 113 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,280 Look at the lake, the trees, all the rest of it. 114 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,800 It's a great place for a musical event." 115 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,280 Now I knew we were not talking about choirs and orchestras. 116 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,440 - He did tell me that he was somewhat trepidatious 117 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,560 to be doing that. 118 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,800 - No shit. 119 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,080 And it was such a good opportunity. 120 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,416 So we decided to do our own party. 121 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,536 It's pain in the ass trying to think 122 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,040 of the name for an event. 123 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,776 Anyone who's ever tried to start a rock band or do the, 124 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,256 you know, will tell you the same thing. 125 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,360 Listening to Radio 4, children's, you know, 126 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,000 story time came on and Secret Garden Party. 127 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,856 - Do I talk to the camera or to you? 128 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,040 Just to me, just to me. 129 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,320 - Okay. My name's Eddy Temple-Morris. 130 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,680 I'm a DJ producer, and my proudest title is Patron Saint 131 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,440 of the Secret Garden Party. 132 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,880 Freddie approached me through the XFM website 133 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,520 and said that they loved my show, 134 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,000 that I'd be perfect for this party that they were throwing. 135 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,360 I thought it looked and sounded fantastic. 136 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,760 So I said, "Yeah, where do I sign? I'm in?" 137 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,240 - So we duly did that and about 700 people turned up. 138 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,400 And a lot of our friends who went there, 139 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,616 loved the vibe of the party, 140 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,520 loved the freedom of what you could do 141 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,120 and, you know, the general style and the culture around it. 142 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,976 - Try and sit up a bit, might be good if... 143 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,160 I think we got a bit of a tendency to hunch. 144 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,760 - I'm Ned. 145 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,280 - I'm Maff from The Egg. 146 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,520 - I'm from The Egg as well. 147 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,960 We're a live electronic dance music stuff. 148 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,600 And we've been playing Secret Garden 149 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,880 since the beginning. 150 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,400 - Yeah. We have a friend Grantley. 151 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,456 He said, "There are these people who wanna do the best party 152 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,240 in the world ever and they want you to play." 153 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,800 And I was like, "Okay, great." 154 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,440 And it's all really funny and ridiculous 155 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:04,000 and eccentric and goodly silly. 156 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,600 - Secret Garden Party! 157 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,400 - It was the start of something really, really special. 158 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,400 - You're always talking to us. 159 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,440 - Not the giant cock behind you. 160 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:34,440 We moved here nearly 20 years ago. 161 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:36,440 Everyone knows everyone. 162 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,400 My husband's on the parish council, 163 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,400 and suddenly a party arrives. 164 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,560 And "Oh, we don't want them. Think of the traffic. 165 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:46,520 Think of the noise and they're not even local. 166 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,000 And what do we get out of it? 167 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,840 And I don't want my children going because that'd be awful." 168 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,560 And then you see these children who snuck in 169 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:54,480 at the beginning. 170 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:55,600 - Back in those days... 171 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:56,440 - I had no money. 172 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:57,640 - I didn't have a ticket. 173 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,680 So, I looked for ways to get in. 174 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,576 We'd already invented the game of trying to find 175 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,520 someone that had actually bought a ticket. 176 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,680 - You know, I've been there when the kids are kind of 177 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:17,120 drunken and disheveled behind the toilets going, 178 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,200 "Oh, gosh." 179 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,600 - I'm Pete Loveday. 180 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,200 And what is Pete Loveday? 181 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,520 Probably someone who's been with this festival 182 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,560 for 13 years doing artwork for them. 183 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,680 How did you get involved? 184 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,680 Just a phone call out of nowhere. 185 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,440 And it was Freddie. 186 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:54,520 Cause he'd read the Russell Comics 187 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,080 and come down to check it out 188 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,000 and see whether I fancy doing artwork for him. 189 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,520 He'd found a few images there that probably made him think 190 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,080 that I, I might know what a festival was about. 191 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,560 And what did you think? 192 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,160 - Well, I thought it was very small and it was very sweet. 193 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,280 It had one stage. 194 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,640 - By the lake, which is now 195 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,920 the Where The Wild Things Are stage. 196 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,160 - And the pagoda sorted being used for DJ's. 197 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,280 - The dance area was a tree house. 198 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,600 - The magic boots? Do you remember the magic boots? 199 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,840 - Or the Fuck Yeah bar with the cars outside 200 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,600 that people pushed into the lake. 201 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,560 It was the definition of just fucking reckless abandon. 202 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,600 - Yeah, it was great. 203 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,440 We rocked up and the moment we started, 204 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:52,440 it was just one enormous fiesta. 205 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:56,600 - First time I went to SGP, I was... 206 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,600 I must have been dressed as a cow. 207 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,776 - Then shit got really outta hand for five years. 208 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,680 - Well, I can't remember the 14th, the second one, 209 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,000 but I certainly can remember the 13th one. 210 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Why was that particularly memorable? 211 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,000 - I went down the rabbit hole. 212 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,440 And then I came out and I was in a couple of mud 213 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:20,760 with lots of pretty girls. 214 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,640 And with this really wicked little sound system 215 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,760 that somebody had made out of bits. 216 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,440 And we were in a tent that was literally 217 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:28,760 just kind of half fallen down, 218 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,040 but we were dry and we were warm and we were 219 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,920 in this little space and this is the Secret Garden. 220 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,720 It was incredibly difficult not to let your hair down. 221 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,000 We've gone from literally three muddy stages to this. 222 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,120 - My sister, Fred's mom, was slightly tearing her hair out 223 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,120 because each year the festival had got bigger and better 224 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,320 and the loss had got bigger and better every year. 225 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,960 They were very casual about, you know, receipts. 226 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,480 I think we started getting it quite well 227 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,680 developed in 2005, which is, I think also when we 228 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,120 started noticing the sort of quite parabolic increase 229 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,560 in our attendees. 230 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:34,680 And then 2006 got very popular. 231 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,680 We got very lucky with a couple of bookings. 232 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,520 - 2006 was like, we'd booked by accident... 233 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:41,440 Well, not by accident. 234 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:42,920 She was brilliant, Lily Allen. 235 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:43,920 - Go well today? 236 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,160 - Went really, really well. 237 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,840 I didn't think it was gonna go very well 238 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,200 cause it was raining and there were no people 239 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,960 out to the front stage. 240 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,320 And then suddenly there were. 241 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,480 - We had people turning up with picnic chairs 242 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,680 and like they'd printed out the program. 243 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,776 - They wanted to know where the information booth was 244 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:00,800 and we're just like... 245 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,480 - And the best complaint letter we had in the early years 246 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,080 was someone who thought they'd found the information desk. 247 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,840 They got handcuffed to each other and then pointed 248 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,560 to 500 keys hanging from fishing wire 249 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:20,040 and told one of these keys is gonna set you free. 250 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,936 - Everyone harps back to the good old days. 251 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,080 "The good old days. 252 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,456 My days, my days when I was coming up." 253 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:26,680 "Oh, it was magic, wasn't it?" 254 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,200 You know, magical time, magical time. 255 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,056 - I told my friends I was going to Secret Garden 256 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,520 and they all kind of laughed at me. 257 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,496 They were like, "Are you going to that posh kids' party?" 258 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,976 Back in the day, it was seen as a posh party 259 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,760 because people wore 60 pound animal hats and drank Pims. 260 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,240 - I actually ended up doing my 40th birthday party there. 261 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,600 So I had like 150 people all turned up. 262 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,240 Everybody like in pure white. 263 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,800 - And yeah, it was, it was quite polite, wasn't it? 264 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,640 - And it was sometimes like, "Are we running a festival?" 265 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:00,920 - Fred called me. 266 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,640 And he said, "I would like talk to you about some festival." 267 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,760 I said to Fred, I said, 268 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,720 "Listen, I'm going to come with Desmond 269 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,520 and let's see what happens." 270 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,000 - Are ready to sing? 271 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,800 - And when we walk out on stage, it was in the thousands. 272 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,640 I went, "Oh my God. Secret Garden Party is born." 273 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,440 - And suddenly like the time I was going, 274 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,040 they're the best festival ever. 275 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,600 - Honestly, on the Saturday night, 276 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,840 it really was as if everyone was, you know, 277 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,520 high up on one thing or another with a glow stick 278 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,840 sticking out of their nostril, 279 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,840 running around like blue ass flies. 280 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,880 Been to Glastonbury fairly regularly. 281 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,160 We didn't go to Burning Man until summer of 2006. 282 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,600 - If we're being honest, 283 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,200 Secret Garden Party borrowed a lot from Burning Man. 284 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,976 Which is like an art festival that everyone's 285 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,840 doing something, burning something, dressing up 286 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,800 and making, just anything to get people to interact. 287 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,240 It's still one of the best parties 288 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,640 I've ever been to because the people you'll meet, 289 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,880 things to do and interact with, the creativity 290 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,840 and the capability that's brought to it, 291 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,720 is just jaw dropping. 292 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,040 - You realize that actually it is okay to be this 293 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,560 fucking indulgently bonkers in the whimsical. 294 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,976 - But Burning Man is a little bit po-faced 295 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,280 and they take it really seriously 296 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,080 whereas here it was just all about fun. 297 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,200 Action. 298 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,720 - Can we do it again? That was fucking shit. 299 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,840 The level of dedication to nonsense 300 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,800 was unparalleled in any of the other festivals, 301 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,600 even Glastonbury to a certain extent. 302 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,520 They took the most bizarre and weird parts of Glastonbury 303 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,000 and just went pew. 304 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,200 This is the raw bones of the nonsense, 305 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,080 and we're gonna give it to you here in one place. 306 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,776 - We made an agreement with Secret Garden 307 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,680 that I would come here and make something amazing. 308 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,280 I believe it was like, I promised a spontaneous miracle. 309 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,736 Nice to have your own phone line here 310 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,880 and the landline, too. Mom? 311 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,240 Your have reached a number 312 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:18,760 that has been disconnected. 313 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,120 - I was taken to a barn where almost all of that stuff 314 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,840 was found. I mean, this is quality goods. 315 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,560 It's all those cans, I brought with me 316 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,320 from the last festival in Ireland. 317 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,840 I had a huge bag. I was like loitering in, you know, 318 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,200 kind of customs. 319 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,160 Like somebody please ask me what's in this huge bag. 320 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,480 I was like, "Na, na, na." 321 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,240 You know, looking suspicious. Nothing. 322 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:42,656 They didn't want any, they didn't care. 323 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,960 I wanted to like open it up and go, "Ha-ha! 324 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,040 You ever seen that before?" 325 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,936 Nothing. And some of the people were looking at me, 326 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,960 kinda like "You're such a dick." 327 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:57,160 - In this screwed up, over health and safety-ised, 328 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,680 very controlled English, stiff upper lip culture, 329 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,256 Secret Garden proves that, you know, 330 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,520 we can have the same vibes as a Favela in Brazil, 331 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,000 at least for a few days anyway. 332 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:10,160 You know what I mean? 333 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:30,440 - When I first joined Secret Garden Party, it was- 334 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,720 - Shambles. 335 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,376 - It was the biggest circus I've ever seen. 336 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,800 I thought everyone was going to die 337 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,656 and people were just coming into the office going, 338 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,120 "I'm just going to suicide Olympics. 339 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,000 Where's the suicide Olympics." 340 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,360 Are they literally suicide Olympics? 341 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,640 - Pretty much. It was a wheelchair on the top of a hill 342 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,456 and they used to just push people down there. 343 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,000 - So, I mean, I remember the first year 344 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,840 of watching someone in the wheelchair go down the hill. 345 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,360 - It was the tractor tire. 346 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,056 That one went all the way down the hill with the, 347 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,400 with the guy in it, into the lake. 348 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,256 And that was, and then he didn't come out for ages. 349 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,760 We were like "Where's the, where's the guy gone?" 350 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,040 - Well, I think as long as they don't drain the lake. 351 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,920 We were willing to give anyone a chance 352 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,480 who had a crazy enough idea that sounded like 353 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,040 we could execute it and then develop them 354 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,480 and help them along the way on that. 355 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,920 - So I used to do this thing where I would 356 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,960 forge a load of doctors' prescriptions, 357 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,080 dress up as a doctor and break into festivals. 358 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,400 And on Sunday I'd walk around writing people off sick 359 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,240 so they could stay out and party more. 360 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:39,736 And I was sitting with these people drinking 361 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,880 their champagne. 362 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,080 There was someone there who was chatting 363 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,040 and he, you know, I thought he was being a little bit cocky. 364 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,600 So I quietly wrote him out of prescription, 365 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,120 describing him with cock throat 366 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,000 and explaining to him or his jewels 367 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:58,200 would start to sink down into his throat scrotum 368 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,696 and the cock would come out of hid mouth. 369 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,080 And he looked at it for a little bit 370 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,640 and he just went, "Are they paying you to be here?" 371 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,720 I was like, "No, I jumped over the fence like always." 372 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,640 And he went, "This is our festival." 373 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,400 And he said, "Okay, come next time 374 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,160 and bring some people and do something." 375 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,536 You've talked about Vito, haven't you? 376 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,360 Yeah, if you say, 377 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,760 have you got a few words to say? 378 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,720 - What? You asking me who I am? 379 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,720 Mm? 380 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,640 - Vito was ridiculous. 381 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Beautifully, happily, joyfully visible at all times. 382 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,920 He'd say goodbye to you and he'd say, 383 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,600 "I'll see you in my dreams." 384 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:44,096 Or something stupid and then he'd suddenly disappear. 385 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:48,200 And literally 10, 15 minutes later, he'd come back 386 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,160 and he was in a completely different costume 387 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,320 Different makeup even. 388 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,120 And he'd gone back to his little hole 389 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,440 where he did these magical things and he'd just get... 390 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,240 And the whole reason for it was just to make you gasp. 391 00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:05,200 - Think he was particularly proud of being able 392 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,040 to of coined 'This is a serious party'. 393 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,040 - And walked around with his sign on him 394 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,496 He got on stage a few times, danced with us. 395 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,440 - I mean, I don't remember the first time. 396 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,160 It was sort of, one of those things where 397 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,400 he just always seemed to be around at the garden party. 398 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,960 By the time that he'd got his iconic sign, we'd met. 399 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,880 - I invited him to compere for Artful Badger. 400 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,200 He's an incredible compere and incredible energy. 401 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,440 - I got him to do the, "Oh, How Lucky You Are" 402 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,080 business from Dr. Seuss, to open the rabbit hole. 403 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,160 - Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to introduce you to, 404 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,520 The Cat in the Hat. 405 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,000 - And he did the entire thing. 406 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:40,160 - 'No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.' 407 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,280 - Verbatim. 408 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,680 - 'Congratulations, today is your day. 409 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,560 You're off to great places. You're off and away.' 410 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,440 - Got it completely right, I think. 411 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,120 - 'You have brains in your head. 412 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,760 You have feet in your shoes. 413 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,200 You can steer yourself any which direction you choose'. 414 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,320 - We were all going a bit like, "Can we get on with it? 415 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,120 Can we get on with this? We wanna hear the band now." 416 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,200 - 'Oh, the places you'll go, you'll be on your way up. 417 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,560 You'll be seeing great sights. 418 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,000 You'll join the high flyers who soar to high heights." 419 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,120 - In 2007, me and a guy called Dickie Cohen 420 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,840 did mud wrestling at Glastonbury. 421 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,280 It went down really well. 422 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,560 We got some Barbie dolls. 423 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,056 - Not Barbie dolls, but they were like- 424 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,280 - Yeah, okay. Cabbage Patch. 425 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,280 - No, they were like sort of ugly little like- 426 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,720 - Trolls? 427 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,296 - Something between My Little Pony and a Barbie doll. 428 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,800 I can't remember where, I dunno where we got them from. 429 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,160 - We put them in the bowl full of mud 430 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,480 and had them wrestling. 431 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,896 We had like weird legs and arms sticking out. 432 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,720 And then one arm was holding a proposal. 433 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,320 - And we put it in a box. 434 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,600 - And then we just sent that to Secret Garden Party HQ. 435 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,856 We didn't want any money at all. 436 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,880 We just wanted five tickets 437 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,400 and we'd do everything ourselves. 438 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,400 So in 2007, me and Dickie hand dug a mud pit. 439 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,200 It took us three days to dig. 440 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,136 And then we just stood around it with megaphones, 441 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,400 getting people to wrestle. 442 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,056 - The mud pit was just like a continued success. 443 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,320 And everyone knew it. Loads of people liked it. 444 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,240 But of course, we didn't have a lid. 445 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:07,400 So loads of people slept in it. 446 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,280 Like cuddled in it, pissed in it. 447 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,480 I mean all sorts like, you know, 448 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,320 people passed out in it while someone else 449 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,440 was pissing in it. 450 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,176 At like two o'clock in the morning, I was just like, 451 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,240 "I am not getting involved in this." 452 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,160 - I can't see. I can't see. 453 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,600 - I remember one year, I got about 25 people in 454 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,680 and I thought this had the potential to get quite sexy. 455 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,480 But then there was just a few guys, just writhing around 456 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,520 and just started almost fucking each other in the mud. 457 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,520 And it escalated really quickly. 458 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,320 And that was the start of the Collosillium. 459 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,800 10 years later, it's this massive 2000 capacity venue. 460 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,480 And we have a strong belief that we are not the headliners, 461 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,840 It's the crowd. 462 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,320 So then we played ridiculous games. 463 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,120 'Wax on, wax off', where you are on the aerial truss 464 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,880 and you're ripping off hair with wax strips. 465 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,240 - We had a new game called, 'Whose Anus Is This Anyway?' 466 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:18,240 Four bums, four girls guessing the boyfriend's bums. 467 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,200 She's very sure it's his bottom 468 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,680 but she's not sure about the balls. 469 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,960 - This girl, beautiful, she decided 470 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,240 that she definitely knew it was her boyfriend's bum. 471 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:29,200 And instead of like just kissing it, 472 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,360 she licked the bum right in the middle. 473 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,600 - Full crack. - Full crack. 474 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,640 Well that was daring, well done. 475 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,560 - But at least it's your boyfriend. 476 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,400 - At least it's your boyfriend. 477 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,520 She picked it wrong. 478 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,216 How do you circumvent health and safety? 479 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,520 - Yeah. You don't circumvent health and safety. 480 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,440 - When you're creating things like this in the sort of space 481 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,880 that we are talking about, 482 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,600 we kind of hope people subscribe to the danger aspect. 483 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,160 What was the guy's name 484 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,400 in health and safety? 485 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,176 - He's actually, he's asked not to be named 486 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,880 and remain anonymous. 487 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,280 - Truth be told a lot of the crazies I saw running around, 488 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,800 they were pretty aware of how insane this place was. 489 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:17,520 It's this safety third thing. 490 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,360 First, have fun. Second, have more fun. 491 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,600 And then think, is this dangerous? 492 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,960 - Even if someone did come out with no leg, 493 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,440 it was just like, 494 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,360 "Hey, I've scarred my leg for life, but it's fine." 495 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,360 Not that I think that's a good thing. 496 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,160 And now we're much more professional, of course. 497 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,040 We're much more professional. 498 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,840 - It always helps if it looks like 499 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,720 you've completely thrown the rule book away 500 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,360 because the public love that. 501 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,496 But you know, at the end of the day, they're our guests. 502 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,440 We need to look after them and send them home in one piece. 503 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,280 - The model that all those guys came up with 504 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,000 was that they got all these micro venues together. 505 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,600 Each one of those micro venues was run 506 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,160 by a really cool posse. 507 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,520 They all came together and each one of those little crews 508 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,480 pulled like a mule. 509 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,480 - There's things, there's the action counselors. 510 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,576 There's the physics council, 511 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,656 there's the political things. 512 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,016 There's lots of discussions about stuff. 513 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,960 - Me and Jim were like obsessed with 9/11 514 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,480 conspiracy theories. 515 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,536 So we were like, "Hey, let's do a conspiracy camp." 516 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,560 So then I, we invited all these David Icke's 517 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,440 and journalists and ex MI5 agents 518 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,600 and all these weirdo's and conspiracy theorists 519 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,880 into this tent which was decked out like the war room 520 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,720 in Stanley Kubrick's, 'Dr. Strangelove'. 521 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,840 - Once the foundation perception of reality is flawed, 522 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,800 everything that comes from that must by definition, 523 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,320 be flawed. 524 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,120 - The idea of bringing serious academics and professors 525 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,480 and serious people into this environment 526 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,240 where everyone's like naked and on drugs. 527 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:48,320 And it's all crazy and hectic and hedonistic, 528 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,440 that really appealed to me. 529 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,240 - Is that a cucumber? That's a cucumber. 530 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:54,160 That's a cucumber. 531 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,680 - Cucumber, cucumber, cucumber. 532 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,200 - E.T. phone homo. 533 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,520 - When it comes to like representing LGBT+ communities 534 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,480 at festivals, like it's actually really poor. 535 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,640 Glastonbury's championed that with like Block9 festival, 536 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,016 have done some good stuff as well, 537 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,400 but like Secret Garden Party was always 538 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,240 a very open, friendly festival. 539 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,360 So I think lots of gay people used to gravitate there. 540 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,600 We originally asked to do a tent, 541 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,880 the kind of ceremony celebration of coming out. 542 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,680 Someone sent us a thousand bottles of poppers. 543 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,480 So poppers actually sponsored the first gay bar. 544 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,440 It meant that our tent was really busy. 545 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,560 It's sweaty, it's amazing, it smells of mud 546 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,760 and all the sweat and human bodies. 547 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,560 And then all of the kind of chemicals which are coming out 548 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,960 of everyone's pores. 549 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,600 It's a little like a chemical toilet, 550 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,960 but like kind of sexier. 551 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,520 And it just turns into this dirty, amazing little ray 552 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,120 that just never seems to sort of stop. 553 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,120 One guy who sort of grabbed the microphone, 554 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,840 he was like super nervous. 555 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,280 We stopped the music and he came out and he started crying. 556 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,360 His friends started crying, I started crying. 557 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,640 And then the whole tent was just like weeping for this guy. 558 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,856 And his friends were celebrating him and they were like, 559 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,640 "Oh my God, we never knew." 560 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,160 And I was like, yeah. 561 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,536 And you look at him and he's covered in glitter 562 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,520 and I was like, "How did you not know?" 563 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,960 Having that place where people can be celebrated, 564 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,480 people can be who they want to be and be empowered for that 565 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,520 is always what we've stood for. 566 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,400 Come inside my bar, 567 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,400 it will change your life and the size of your anus. 568 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,480 - Things like introducing drug testing, 569 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,080 first festival to do that. 570 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,520 - So I'm Henry Fisher. I'm one of the testers for The Loop. 571 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,840 We provide advice on drug use and sexual health 572 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,560 for people at festivals and other events. 573 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,480 Last year was the first year when we were able to actually 574 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,880 provide multi-agency safety testing. 575 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,200 So that's where people can come and bring a little scoop 576 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,400 of powder or a bit of a pill, or ideally a whole pill. 577 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,200 We then find out what's in the sample 578 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,320 and we can tell 'em how strong it is. 579 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,536 So you are not telling people 580 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,760 not to take drugs? 581 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,920 We neither condone or condemn drug use. 582 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,560 We know it's gonna happen. 583 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,256 So what we're trying to do is just make sure that they don't 584 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,440 end up in the welfare tent or worse, in hospital. 585 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,880 That was a great, great thing to be a part of. 586 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,640 And certainly something that, you know, 587 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,000 it helps if you're independent, 588 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,280 to be able to make that move. 589 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,040 - Are people who come to you suspicious? 590 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,560 They were suspicious at first 591 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,936 because it was such a new thing. 592 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,360 Now there's a bit more publicity. 593 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,761 People have heard us a bit more. It's been really popular. 594 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,016 We wouldn't have been able to do it 595 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,576 without the support of our local police force 596 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,160 who were awesome in their response. 597 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,080 It's something we'd been talking to them about 598 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,320 for a couple of years. 599 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,680 And I know when it first got mentioned, it was a, 600 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,680 a very uncomfortable concept. 601 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,816 The reasoning they went through was very interesting. 602 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,560 Their primary directive is the prevention of harm. 603 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,720 Their secondary directive is the persecution of criminality. 604 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,800 Once you've entered into the event 605 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,936 and you've gone through the searches and all that security, 606 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,160 the option for that second directive has gone. 607 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,640 If you are going to be able to effectively discharge your 608 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,120 primary directive of reducing harm. 609 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,320 And this is not an opportunity to persecute petty, 610 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,400 civil disobedience. 611 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,920 So far, how's the quality of the drugs been? 612 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,640 - It's been really variable and it always is. 613 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,840 We've had a few very strong pills so far, 614 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,600 which is as much of a worry as well. 615 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,800 We're telling people to take a quarter. 616 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,736 But then we've had some, some really awful things. 617 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,560 I think we had some plaster of paris, 618 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,760 happened to us yesterday, 619 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,840 that someone was sold on site as MDMA. 620 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,880 - Prohibition has been doing more harm than drugs 621 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,800 since whatever it is, 1963. 622 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,360 If drugs are, you know, 623 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,376 have a dangerous side, they should be controlled. 624 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,681 And to be able to at least used, if they're gonna be used, 625 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,960 in a safe way. 626 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,240 A word of balloons? 627 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,600 - That omnipotent sound. 628 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,800 - So laughing gas, yeah. 629 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,480 Nitrous oxide occurred through this period 630 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,160 and suddenly everybody was doing it. 631 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,640 I remember getting there for the Monday... 632 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,800 No, I was there from Sunday. I can't remember. 633 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,440 I think I arrived with Ans. 634 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,440 And there's a big, huge tube of it. 635 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,040 And I had some, and I blacked out and fell over. 636 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,760 Hit my head on this picnic table. 637 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,560 And I went to hospital and I think we played a festival 638 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,136 on the main stage a couple of weeks later. 639 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,040 And I went on stage and said, 640 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,360 "Laughing gas, right, it's not that funny." 641 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,800 - It's no laughing matter. - No. 642 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,840 - When it first appeared on the scene, 643 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,600 one of our crew started off with a gas bar. 644 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,936 Yeah, I think you got mentioned 645 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,296 in the same sentence as laughing gas. 646 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,440 - Never. - There you go. 647 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,760 - Yes. - But I did hear it from you. 648 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,640 - I think the people running it made a very, 649 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,120 very nice little fortune. 650 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,280 I had a girlfriend who did a nitrous oxide stall 651 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,360 at the Garden Party. 652 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,320 And so we organized a, a big tank. 653 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,800 It was, it was just totally fucking ridiculous. 654 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,920 I mean, there's people sort of burning their mouths on it. 655 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,280 There's people literally just falling over. 656 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,120 We had to like confiscate it 657 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,440 cause people are still squabbling over it. 658 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,800 Hippie fucking crack. 659 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760 - Now the new psychoactive substance laws come in, 660 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,800 we have gone to it now being the preferred drug for sale 661 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,200 by organized criminal gangs at festivals. 662 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,160 Now, if you think about the upstring on that 663 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,936 and the consequences for getting caught with it, 664 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,760 it is not really a big win in that area for that law. 665 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,000 Especially not for us at the bloody edge of it. 666 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,776 - Are we not here to talk about music? 667 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,120 - I'm Lissie. 668 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,000 This is like the coolest place we've ever been I think. 669 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,880 - Yeah. 670 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,360 The new music has come through the festival, 671 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,800 where you think that Where The Wild Things Are, 672 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,560 which is a very small stage kind of built into a tree. 673 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,896 And the artists we've had come through that, 674 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,840 from Florence and The Machine and The XX 675 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,040 and Lily Allen and Daughter and all these kind of acts, 676 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,360 as time gone on, they then kind of 677 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,040 upgraded to the main stage. 678 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,240 Crystal Fighters were one of our headliners this year, 679 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,480 on the final year. 680 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,880 They came to the festival as punters 681 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,360 and it inspired them to start the band in the first place. 682 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,720 That I think is, is part of what's important 683 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,440 with Secret Garden Party, 684 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,960 it's inspired, not just us and punters, 685 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,200 but inspired the artists as well. 686 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:46,000 - All of the acts that were booked into the Garden Party 687 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,920 understood the ethos of the show. 688 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040 You can play and we can't pay loads of money 689 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,360 cause we haven't got it, 690 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,080 cause we spent it all on fluff and bunting. 691 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,320 And when you finish playing 692 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,360 get in the party with everyone else. 693 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,120 DJs who are used to getting paid six figures for a set 694 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:03,680 would come and play for free. 695 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,240 That's how we managed to bank all the early headliners. 696 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,976 DJs love playing at the Collisillium. 697 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,920 We've had Disclosure, Sub Focus, Chase & Status, 698 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,600 Roni Size, all the Hospital Records guys 699 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:21,400 and a whole range of like massive DJs. 700 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,160 These guys who came over from America 701 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,400 and came back backstage with me, 702 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,880 Dickie and Frodo and Timmy were like, 703 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,176 "Say man, what you doing now?" 704 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,920 He's, "Oh man, you know, I'm just gonna go back 705 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,200 to the hotel, you know." 706 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,840 And we were like, "No, you're not. 707 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,000 You're gonna come back to the sweaty lingerie party. 708 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,496 And you're just gonna take off your trousers 709 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,720 and like wander around in your pants." 710 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,000 And he is like, "Okay, I'm gonna do that." 711 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,680 - There wasn't any pandering. 712 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,440 Grace Jones, you know, exception 713 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,960 cause she was a bloody nightmare. 714 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,920 - She wanted to have a scissor lift 715 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,320 that kind of brought her up. 716 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,440 But the people in charge of doing that before, 717 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,320 perhaps they didn't have the ability 718 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,880 to organize something like that. 719 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,040 So it pretty much was one of our stage crew 720 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,000 with Grace Jones on their shoulders. 721 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,680 And he just kind of went like this. 722 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,280 - You'd never go to garden party to, 723 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,560 because of the band lineup, 724 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,120 sorry James Brennan but you wouldn't. 725 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:29,000 But like it's, you'd go to garden party for so much more. 726 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,040 Tell us about that complaint email 727 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,360 that you got from somebody. 728 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,096 - I love it. - You make it sound like 729 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,320 there's just been one in 15 years. 730 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,176 We get, you know, depending on the year we, you know, 731 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,200 you get one or two. 732 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,760 If it's been a very good year, 733 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,280 you, you know, you normally get one. 734 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,800 A very wet year, you can get a lot more. 735 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,400 Last year's which has, we had a love, 736 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,640 brilliant year, last year. 737 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,240 And it was the only real letter of complaint. 738 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,240 Her major beef was, she was promised Secret Places 739 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,760 and she couldn't find them. 740 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,840 - Well, sorry for that. 741 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,600 But you missed this secret and this secret and this secret, 742 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:47,400 this secret and that you didn't find them 743 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,040 is not really our fault, 744 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,040 Well, that's the thing about 745 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,200 the Secret Garden Party. 746 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,800 It's about the little secret things 747 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,040 that actually, for me, make the festival so wonderful. 748 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,040 - S&Empathy, that was good. 749 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,640 - We did the Dog House. 750 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,880 It's just a little place where we just play filthy, 751 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,120 dirty, funky dance music. 752 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,320 I seem to remember that time when we lost the power. 753 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,656 Yeah, yeah. So after the power went down, 754 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,200 we were following the blue power cable, 755 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,080 pulling it out the mud tryna figure out where it had gone. 756 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,600 I went inside a tent, I kind of unzipped it and went in. 757 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:27,880 And as I walked in, 758 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,600 there's 200 naked people having a massive rave. 759 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:33,856 I didn't even know we were next to a sort of 760 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,680 secret naked rave tent. 761 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,120 - One of my favorite things doing was with sunflower field. 762 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:40,456 Fred built a field of sunflowers 763 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,160 and put a row of toilets against one side 764 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,960 with the back cut out of the toilet. 765 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,200 You walk through and then 766 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,200 into this sunflower field. 767 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,896 - We didn't tell her that the sunflowers 768 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,560 were in the secret places cause that'd been a bit mean. 769 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,240 Could you state your real name? 770 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,480 - My name's Ian Duff. 771 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,400 What do you do here? 772 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,160 I run the Secret Bar. 773 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,440 - I first met Ian in 2006 and Ian was sort of, 774 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,120 kind of ricocheting behind the bar and he asked me, 775 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:33,160 "What day is it?", I went, "it's Friday morning." 776 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,640 And Duff went, "Fuck, I've been awake for four days. 777 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,840 I'm going to bed." 778 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,600 And literally just disappeared off to bed. 779 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:41,200 Right. 780 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,736 And how many years have you been doing Secret Bar? 781 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,856 I can't actually remember how many years. 782 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,480 It's all kind of merged into one. 783 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,336 Set up the bar, we gave all the booze away for free 784 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,600 if people could find it. 785 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:51,680 - Yeah. How did he ever run that bar? 786 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,120 Who was paying for all the booze? 787 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:56,800 - We hid the bar in various places throughout the site. 788 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,160 And then if they found the bar, 789 00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:59,520 they could have a free drink. 790 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,720 Open to anyone as long as you can find it. 791 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,000 - I mean, the first few years 792 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,480 we were right next to Duff's Bar. 793 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,160 Everybody just sort of went from Duff's to get refreshed 794 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,400 and relax for a little bit and then come to ours for a quick 795 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,576 hour on the dance floor and then back to Duff's again. 796 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,880 - As people got to know about it, 797 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,400 they tended to take the piss. 798 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,880 So we changed it a little bit to make it a little bit more, 799 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,280 well a little bit more participatory. 800 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,200 Where the drinks are free 801 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,800 if you're willing to perform 802 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,736 one of several silly, bad ideas that we came up with. 803 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,840 This year, we've got the bartender haircut, 804 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,240 topless electric fence limbo. 805 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,360 We tend to make the people who don't join in, pay. 806 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,960 Right, yeah. 807 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,280 So that, that's how we kind of make ends meet. 808 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,400 Yeah, fair enough. 809 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,960 - But we never really make ends meet. 810 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,400 - I remember actually going to... 811 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,096 I remember, was it last year the year before? 812 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,440 I'd gone to see Air on the main stage 813 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,680 and all these girls were dancing around me, kind of going 814 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,200 "Oh my God, it's like I'm orgasming. It's amazing." 815 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,040 And uh... - Who said that? You did? 816 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,320 - No, no, not me. 817 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,120 Some of the girls I know were like dancing, 818 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,520 the music's like, "Oh man, I'm just having this orgasm." 819 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,960 So, and then afterwards- 820 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,080 - They said that? - Yeah, they said that. 821 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,440 - Okay. - Yeah. 822 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,480 And then we went backstage and I met the drummer 823 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,080 and I said, "So what's it like playing drums in there?" 824 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,040 And he said, "Well, they told me to play 825 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,120 like I'm making love to a beautiful woman, 826 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,120 but you're never actually coming." 827 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:18,576 And isn't that funny that the girls 828 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,240 all actually felt the same vibe from them. Easy. 829 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,680 Anyway, we took him to Duff's Bar 830 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,240 and got them completely twatted. 831 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,360 - Sorry about that. - Just fucking breaking strings. 832 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,200 I like breaking strings, it's fun. 833 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,720 Does anyone know where the Artful Badger tent is? 834 00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:59,480 When Garden Party started 835 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,160 it was pretty camp to watch it. 836 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,736 Garden Party was reacting to something 837 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,880 that wasn't there and wasn't being fed. 838 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,760 Suddenly, festival has become 839 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,360 incredibly mainstream. 840 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,640 - There need to be festivals that have their independence. 841 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,216 And when you have your independence, 842 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:19,400 there's a bit of a trade off. 843 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,000 You have to do a dance with law enforcement 844 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,480 and local authority. 845 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,920 At the same time, it also means 846 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,040 that you're not swallowing corporate cock. 847 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,480 People are not trying to shaft something really horrible 848 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,920 and big and unappetizing down your gullet. 849 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,880 And that is important 850 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,320 because you will have 851 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,480 all the strings associated with sponsorship. 852 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,440 They're nasty. 853 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,400 - We went to New York and it was 854 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,480 the Woodstock Reunion Festival. 855 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,480 Big corporate love and peace pizzas 856 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,480 and Pepsi logos and everything everywhere. 857 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,560 But these kinda topless guys on stage with oil saying, 858 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,200 let's go and see how much love there is at Woodstock. 859 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,400 And Woodstock money, which people ran out of. 860 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,560 And people pulling fences down. 861 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:13,480 Commercialism, 862 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,400 that's what some people say led 863 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,560 to the fall of Woodstock 99. 864 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,200 Garden Party's always been 865 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,480 that kind of fuck you to that corporate scene. 866 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,760 We're doing it for us. 867 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,880 We're not doing it to earn money because like, 868 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,600 who the fuck earned money out of Secret Garden Party. 869 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:33,160 Like definitely not any of us. 870 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,880 SGP started organically. 871 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,960 So it requires a lot of interaction and, you know, 872 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,520 buy in from people. 873 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,080 If you go out to try and invent and create a massive 874 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,960 counter-cultural significant thing, 875 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,480 you're gonna end up with probably something very different. 876 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,440 Hit the mic. 877 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,000 Let's see whose headset's still on. 878 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,560 - Oh no, it's stopped. - Testing. 879 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,400 I'll get the sound man to see if- 880 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,520 - Yeah, it's stopped. 881 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,520 - Ah, what's that? 882 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,800 - This is the H6. 883 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,760 It's much more superior than the original zoom. 884 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,760 - There we go. 885 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,160 Secret Garden Party's contribution to festival culture. 886 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,560 - So there was a review in like Mixmag or DJ, 887 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,120 one of those things. 888 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:17,656 There was actually a review of V Festival. 889 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,200 It was this whole column being able to site 890 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,280 and this band, and this band, and this band, 891 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,760 and this band, and this band. 892 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,200 And you know, all the stuff and then the last sentence was, 893 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,600 "But of course, all the cool kids 894 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,600 were at Secret Garden Party." 895 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,800 We needed to really identify ourselves 896 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440 as a bit different and we did that wholeheartedly 897 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,256 with this sort of idea that you either think 898 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,256 we're a bunch of wankers or you think that looks cool. 899 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,880 We didn't really want a reaction anywhere in between. 900 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,920 - My greatest moment was the year 901 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,760 that I realized it wasn't a secret anymore. 902 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,040 I was on the top of the Ferris wheel, 903 00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:00,160 looking out across this incredible canopy of stars below me. 904 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,120 And I cried, you know, at that moment. 905 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,080 It was just so, so emotional. 906 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,776 - The first time I went, I thought, 907 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,000 "Hello. It's not a secret. It's massive." 908 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,920 And I know exactly where it is. 909 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,440 So it's not a Secret Garden Party at all. 910 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,160 It's a massive sore thumb in the middle of Cambridgeshire. 911 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,640 With planes flying overhead and like really loud music 912 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,160 and queues for miles and all the Tesco's 913 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,720 completely empty of beer. 914 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,760 You know, it's not secret. 915 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,360 - I got a text message saying, 916 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,840 "Is it okay, Prince William's coming to the Garden Party. 917 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,960 He's gonna camp in the Garden." 918 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,880 Prince Harry. 919 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,600 - Prince Harry. Thank you. 920 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,640 "No, it's not okay to put the Prince of the realm 921 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,640 in our Garden when we are like, have no VIP area." 922 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,680 This is supposed to be, you know, one tier and shit. 923 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,416 And Daisy, you actually phoned me up and went, 924 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,920 "That's really not cool. 925 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,640 Like, he doesn't, you know, what else does he get to do" 926 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,600 - "Okay, you can come, but you're not having a free ticket." 927 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:16,800 - Well, if he plays the same game as everyone else, 928 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,560 if we book four or five lookalikes of Prince Harry, 929 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,720 then not only does he get a chance of a bit of anonymity, 930 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,360 we have plausible deniability the whole fucking way. 931 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,880 And telling their private security 932 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,880 that there's loads of lookalike on site, 933 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,640 was probably one of the funnest moments of my life. 934 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,400 - When I was introducing Jarvis Cocker, 935 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,760 we had this pact that Jarvis Cocker 936 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,120 would come to the microphone. 937 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:46,920 As he got the microphone, Captain America and I, 938 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,640 would go boooom, 939 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,720 stage dive off the stage, onto the crowd. 940 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,840 What could possibly go wrong? 941 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,120 So I go and tell Jarvis Cocker the plan. 942 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,240 He goes, "Brilliant. Do you want a chocolate?" 943 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,640 So we all had a chocolate. 944 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,640 And then Jarvis Cocker comes to the microphone. 945 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,720 And I'm looking at my receivers, 946 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,640 thinking like, eyeballing them to go, 947 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,280 "I'm coming. I'm coming." 948 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,120 I had a few seconds in which to just sort of 949 00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,720 translate to them, the fact that I was about to 950 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,560 throw myself onto them. 951 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,640 And I sort of got a few positives and a few confused looks 952 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,120 but I just went for it anyway, 953 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,840 cause the moment was, it was there. 954 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,600 So I just launched myself up and they literally, 955 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,760 it was like the red, the Red Sea, 956 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,240 parted and just went peow, like a cartoon. 957 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,280 And I went boom and I collapsed, 958 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,600 almost breaking my back on one woman 959 00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:54,840 in about her sixties at tie-dye. 960 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,800 She just turns to me and she goes, 961 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,480 "Oh my God, you're lucky you didn't kill yourself. 962 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,800 I can't believe the youngsters these days. 963 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,200 They've got no festival etiquette at all, have they?" 964 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,680 So she saved me. 965 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,840 Morning guys. 966 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,120 So it's now day two of Secret Garden party. 967 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:18,760 Today, I've got these amazing trousers on from Penny Drop. 968 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:21,120 I've got a mesh body suit 969 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:22,880 and some cool stickers in little mushroom. 970 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,720 - The kids came up and they bought their outfit at Topshop. 971 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,320 Sure. 972 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,120 We got it from charity shops and stapled it together 973 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,680 and painted it blue. 974 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,880 And then just tipped buckets of glitter on our faces 975 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,800 and rolled around, getting herpes. 976 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,240 But at least there was some, you know, there was, 977 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,360 there was a level of inventiveness. 978 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,160 - We've worked very hard to get something 979 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,760 that we really understood what we wanted 980 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,720 as a bunch of people. 981 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,720 Unfortunately, there's a lot of voyeurs here, 982 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,080 not partaking... 983 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,880 Who are kind of just here to watch us, right? 984 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,440 It's like, no, fuck off. 985 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,136 I don't want you to watch me. I want you to be with me. 986 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,720 - And I think it's gone through lots of, 987 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,160 lots of kind of waves really. 988 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,400 I think the rain and the mud helped with the phases 989 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,840 because the weather would be shit all weekend 990 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,000 and all the kind of part-time party goers would be like, 991 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,360 "Oh no, I've got mud in my furry boots." 992 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,160 Last night, it rained a lot. 993 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,440 And I mean, a lot. 994 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,856 Music was like pumping all night, as well. 995 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,320 It was ridiculous. 996 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,520 Gangs of pissed up blokes wandering around, 997 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,896 getting a bit rowdy and a bit, you know, 998 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,440 not really in the spirit of things. 999 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,056 Then word would get out that that year had been brilliant 1000 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,760 and the next year a load of assholes would turn up again. 1001 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,080 - When all the Joshua's and Tiffany's, you know, 1002 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,840 discount themselves on the, on the greenery. 1003 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,240 Sipping away on their Buck's Fizz 1004 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,280 as the sky turned from blue to pink. 1005 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,680 And then next thing you know, 1006 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,800 it's dubstep and a man with neck tattoos, 1007 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,920 has a football shirt that he's holding 1008 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,480 above his head like that and walking with his shoulders, 1009 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,440 kinda moving back and forth like this, 1010 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,840 as his mate throws a cider bottle in a lake. 1011 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,360 I'm like, yeah... 1012 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,080 What do I think about this? 1013 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,960 You know, yeah, the Joshua's and Tiffany's 1014 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,280 sipping Sancerre on the green, 1015 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,400 they were twats but at least they were polite. 1016 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,976 - The only one thing that never changes, 1017 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,080 is that everything changes. 1018 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,960 And the reality is if you, 1019 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,880 if you don't accept that, things can go wrong. 1020 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,200 Any horror stories though? 1021 00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,080 - Absolutely not. 1022 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,760 - I remember we had one girl who was working on our crew. 1023 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,760 She was tripping on acid and she had found 1024 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,880 a security guards radio, and she was shoving 1025 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,480 it up her vagina, shouting, "Fuck me now. Fuck me now." 1026 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,920 And all of our crew was like, "Whoa! Oh. 1027 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,040 What do we do with you?" 1028 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,880 And like the security guard is like, 1029 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,240 "Can I have my radio? I should maybe keep the radio." 1030 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:00,920 - One of the wet years. 1031 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,520 Does everyone have stories about the wet years? 1032 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,200 Oh, God. I better be good then. 1033 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,600 The mud was pretty crazy a few years ago. 1034 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,120 Really nuts. And it was worst I've ever seen. 1035 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,240 Didn't the Pagoda Stage sink? 1036 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,440 - Did it? - Yeah. 1037 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,800 The Pagoda Stage sank? 1038 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,920 - Yeah. 1039 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:44,040 - Kids in bin bags, stamping around through just trenches. 1040 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,920 And when you, when rains in your face the whole time, 1041 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,600 you have to frown, you spend the whole day frowning. 1042 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:50,976 Spend the whole day frowning, you know? 1043 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,000 Not good. 1044 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,000 - I was doing a stall here and the field was draining off, 1045 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,120 down through the stalls. 1046 00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:05,480 So we dug with adjoining people, a trench. 1047 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,440 And I was sitting there thinking, 1048 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,720 this is a very, very middle class festival 1049 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,960 and I'm not quite sure how I feel about this. 1050 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,640 And just then, an extremely pretty young girl came up, 1051 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,920 vomited in our trench and walked away. 1052 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,800 And I thought, well, maybe it is a festival. 1053 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,096 - I was always surprised that it never would dissuade people 1054 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,400 from getting in the mud pit, 1055 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,920 the fact that there was already mud everywhere. 1056 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,616 - We love it when it rains at Garden Party 1057 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,160 because we're indoors and it means that we're packed. 1058 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,160 - They're the real fight. - They're the bloody fight. 1059 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,160 The battle of the Somme. 1060 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,640 2007, Glade Festival, was one of the most nuts 1061 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:07,960 experiences of my entire life. 1062 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,320 I mean, we had rivers. 1063 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,640 We went to the police and said, 1064 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,840 "We can't keep everyone safe. Sorry" 1065 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,776 And the police said, "Well, you can't evacuate 1066 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,920 cause the roads are closed. 1067 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,840 So you've got to keep everyone safe." 1068 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,440 And that kind of triggered this Dunkirk spirit. 1069 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,840 Yeah. I mean, they amount to some very, 1070 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,160 very tough days in the office, 1071 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,816 but you do always end up quite proud of the, 1072 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,360 the people you're standing shoulder to shoulder with. 1073 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,160 - It's just that general carnage 1074 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,376 but you're all in it together. 1075 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,320 And you kind of just keep going 1076 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,000 cause what else you gonna do? 1077 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,000 - Garden Party had a lot of rain as well, but whatever. 1078 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,800 It's nothing compared to what we had. 1079 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,840 - In Duff's Bar, in Duff's bar... 1080 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,120 In Duff's Bar at seven o'clock in the morning, 1081 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,080 there is a Heras fence 1082 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,680 with blue plastic draped over it. 1083 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,360 In front of the Heras fence, in the muddy grass, 1084 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,040 is a paddling pool full of dirty brown water. 1085 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,160 In that paddling pool is an inflatable champagne bottle, 1086 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,320 which is just meandering around slowly in the dirty water, 1087 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,120 under the gray skies up against the plastic 1088 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:37,640 on the Heras fence. 1089 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,800 And five men stand around with their hands in their pockets 1090 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,960 staring at the little inflatable champagne bottle. 1091 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,200 And I sat there and watched this 1092 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,120 and thought, "Yeah, this is ace" 1093 00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:56,520 There was something almost Beckett like about this bleak, 1094 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,560 bleak remnants of something that may have 1095 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,480 one time been spectacular. 1096 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,480 Long washed out, dead. 1097 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,240 Yeah, I fucking loved that. 1098 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,520 Oh, the glare of fresh air. 1099 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,000 - I remember sitting up on this tree watching a stage 1100 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,416 and I didn't know the guy next to me, 1101 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,160 but I just sat there and I said, "Nice." 1102 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,720 And the guy next to me said, "Nice." 1103 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,360 And I said, "Nice." 1104 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,320 And he said, "Nice." 1105 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,040 And we had, like went through 30 different 'nices'. 1106 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,480 It's really funny. 1107 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,216 And then he walks off and I never talked to him again. 1108 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,720 And then six months later I met him 1109 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,040 and I realized that was Vito. 1110 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,000 First time I met him, yeah. 1111 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,480 - Oh really? 1112 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,360 - He just loved that lifestyle of being out with people, 1113 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,320 being fun and energetic. 1114 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,240 - 20 minutes ago, you were looking like Father Christmas. 1115 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,040 Now you're, you know, Dr. Seuss or whatever. 1116 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,880 The tragedy was this, you know, 1117 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,160 the ying and the yang. 1118 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,960 He did suffer from depression. 1119 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,640 - We definitely saw eye to eye on the world. 1120 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,680 - The festival draw was the party draw, 1121 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,040 the creativity that, you know, that suspended reality, 1122 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,200 that escapism, drew him in too much. 1123 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,560 - I knew he was struggling a little bit 1124 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:49,480 with the festival scene and I didn't know how much. 1125 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,840 - But you never know, do you? 1126 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,240 Yeah. 1127 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,240 - I was meant to call him. 1128 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,760 And then the week later I heard the news. 1129 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,840 - Like everyone, we probably all thought, 1130 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,376 "Oh God, we should have said something, 1131 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,200 done something or gone down or helped." 1132 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,280 It's all very well if you pronounce 1133 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,200 all these great intentions under the black light, 1134 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,240 but when the house lights come on and you need to actually 1135 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,520 follow through and make all of that real, 1136 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,320 otherwise it's all bullshit. 1137 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:29,760 - CALM came through Freddie. 1138 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,320 I think until Vito died, 1139 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,720 I had absolutely no comprehension of the suicide rates 1140 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,880 in men being quite so high and quite such an issue. 1141 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,440 The Campaign Against Living Miserably 1142 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,280 is for us an obvious ally. 1143 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,040 Well, it started with Eddie Temple-Morris, 1144 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,720 who first mentioned it and introduced it to me. 1145 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,600 It fitted our ethos of responsibility. 1146 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,720 At CALM, we believe you can't have 1147 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,520 a great festival without tea. 1148 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,960 So come say hi at this year's Secret Garden Party. 1149 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,160 We started giving them space 1150 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,400 for interactive art pieces that gave people an opportunity 1151 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,240 to open up, engage, acknowledge maybe some of the things 1152 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,960 that they carried themselves. 1153 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,480 - 'Well, I'm sorry to say so, 1154 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,480 but sadly it's true that Bang-ups and Hang-ups, 1155 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,320 well, they can happen to you.' 1156 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,736 - Bizarrely at the time that he died, 1157 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,440 he was at his strongest. 1158 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,080 Now I know, quite often the case when someone has made 1159 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,400 that conscious decision, they're like at their happiest, 1160 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,560 clearest, most cognant stage. 1161 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,360 You need to take care of each other. 1162 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,280 - Waiting around for the phone to ring, 1163 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,200 ding-a-ling, ring-ding-a-ling. 1164 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,600 - One thing I've learnt is to just try to listen 1165 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,440 a little bit more to that niggling little voice. 1166 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:47,760 When someone pops in your head 1167 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,040 a couple of times, just call them. 1168 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:52,880 Yeah. 1169 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,400 - Well, you've probably been told about his firework finale. 1170 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,360 His sister got in touch. 1171 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,480 He'd asked whether his ashes could be scattered 1172 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,160 at the Garden Party or some such. 1173 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,360 He suggested a rather Hunter S. Thompson 1174 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,320 style firework display. 1175 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,160 - Nothing would give him greater pleasure 1176 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,920 than to know that we'd done the nearest equivalent 1177 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,160 we possibly could. 1178 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,800 - Seeing Vito's firework go up, that was great. 1179 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,080 He would've just loved that. 1180 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,600 He would've just loved the sheer silliness of it, 1181 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,441 of sending someone's ashes up in a firework and going pew. 1182 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,280 Perfect. Absolutely bang on. 1183 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,560 - I just miss him madly. 1184 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,400 The friendships that you made here 1185 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,560 would gravitate out into your real life. 1186 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,480 You wouldn't get that love like and support 1187 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,280 and people being that open anywhere else. 1188 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,560 You know, I met the mother of my child here. 1189 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,440 I think we probably made that child here, I think. 1190 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,560 When you've got that many people projecting 1191 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,240 that amount of love, it's very overwhelming. 1192 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:36,560 - Will you marry me? 1193 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,320 - Fucking yes! 1194 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,416 The amount of relationships and friendships 1195 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,360 and businesses and skills and careers 1196 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,520 that were kind of born here, 1197 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,440 make it like just one of those really, really special places 1198 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,600 for a really big crew of friends. 1199 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,320 - There maybe that weird kind of, you know, 1200 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,840 naked ping-pong tent that they made 1201 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,840 becomes like, you know, takes over the world 1202 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,600 as crazy international business. 1203 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,800 - Secret Garden ending is a sad chapter. 1204 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,880 - The last dance and the last party, 1205 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,280 everyone was just crying. 1206 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,600 There will be people who will remember 1207 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,600 Secret Garden as a place where they first fell in love. 1208 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,440 There will be people there who remember it 1209 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,600 for the wild shag that they had. 1210 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,320 - I've got laid quite a lot at Secret Garden Party. 1211 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,400 So I've got to thank it just for that. 1212 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,280 Why are you stopping it? 1213 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,480 Why not keep doing it? 1214 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,200 One of the reasons we didn't fight on 1215 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,720 is we never wanted to be that festival 1216 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,800 that wasn't as good as it used to be. 1217 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,880 We'd always said we'd pull it if we got to that point. 1218 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,640 - Secret Garden created a model, 1219 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,600 which I truly believe, if you look around the world, 1220 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,280 lots of people are doing now. 1221 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,720 Festivals had a certain format 1222 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,640 and then Secret Garden came along 1223 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,240 and that format changed. 1224 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,256 - More and more festivals are now selling tickets 1225 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,280 because of the production and the non-music entertainment, 1226 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,920 rather than those big headliners. 1227 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,920 That worked until I think what we were doing 1228 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,320 then became part of the norm. 1229 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,920 But I think times have changed. 1230 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,960 There certainly wasn't Facebook. 1231 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,000 There wasn't YouTube and then all the rest. 1232 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,800 The currency of how you presented your life online 1233 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:22,856 and that being mainly photos took a massive role 1234 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:23,880 in people's lives. 1235 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,840 I think an event like ours with such a rich backdrop, 1236 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,760 that was certainly a plus for us, 1237 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,680 but I don't think we credited that we were losing control 1238 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,720 of how we were presenting ourselves. 1239 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,400 We were getting accusations of having sold out. 1240 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,880 It was, you know, diametrically opposite online. 1241 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,680 People going, "That's brilliant. We love you guys." 1242 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,280 Or, "That's awful. You're a bunch of tossers." 1243 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,520 You become a bucket list event. 1244 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,160 A sort of festival republic machine, 1245 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,000 where you are just trying to churn out what's popular 1246 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,800 rather than help create what's popular. 1247 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,680 - This was exactly the right move. 1248 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,040 Rather than slip into some kind of obscurity. 1249 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,040 - Yeah, the horse wasn't lame 1250 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,520 but shoot it anyway. 1251 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,320 The Garden man, long live the Garden. 1252 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,640 Going out with a bang 1253 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,760 was always gonna be preferable.