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That we went
from two years of corona standstill
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suddenly to this.
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-Yeah.
-Which made it almost too much at times.
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But now when I think back in retrospect,
it really was crazy.
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Beautiful, isn't it?
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UNITED STATES, SEPTEMBER 2022
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To us it feels short. But secretly
we've been playing for a long time.
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The first ten years,
we weren't really Suzan & Freek, but…
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-It was there though.
-Yeah.
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Suus studied in Delft.
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I went to Delft a few times a week.
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I had my guitar and a camera. That's where
we started recording The Minutes.
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When we'd play till five in the morning,
we had to pack up ourselves.
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I think the best way to keep going
is to stay true to yourself
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because it's easy
to get dragged into all the fuss.
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If a lot of people say you're fantastic,
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you also believe you're fantastic.
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Luckily, we have each other
to share it a bit.
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I want to keep my boundaries
and be okay with myself.
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I still want to identify
with my friends and those around me.
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So that I don't…
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I want to stay the same.
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-And I'm grateful for you.
-Yeah?
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-We did well together, didn't we?
-Yes, we did.
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You often say, "I really like
being Suzan from Suzan & Freek."
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I say it a lot.
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And I really like
being Freek from Suzan & Freek.
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That's what I'm most grateful for.
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-That we could do it together.
-Yes, me too.
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I think it's great too.
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
Suzan & Freek!
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I think Suzan & Freek are the biggest act
in the Netherlands right now.
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It seemed like all the special things
you can experience as an artist
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were all planned in one month.
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I just want
what's private to remain private.
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That's the last piece of us
that still belongs to us.
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We've become entertainers.
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It's remarkable that they're
two down-to-earth people from Achterhoek
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who have gained national fame.
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Proud.
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Yes, I think we did dream of this.
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SUZAN & FREEK
BETWEEN YOU AND ME
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We're in Berlin.
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And on this square,
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I asked a very special question.
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And what did she say?
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Yes!
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-We're getting married.
-Yes.
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-Apart from our family, no one knows.
-No.
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We'll tell everyone soon.
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THE ACHTERHOEK
ZWARTE CROSS PRE-PARTY WITH SUZAN & FREEK
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JULY 2022
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-Hey, brother. All good?
-Yo.
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-Sure.
-Yeah, good race?
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I think the party is great,
but I hope everyone likes it.
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-Hey, Mother.
-Did you finish?
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-Yes, of course. Tomorrow--
-A hair.
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-Rik and Rob weren't allowed to drive.
-Blood alcohol too high.
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-We're watching it.
-Isn't it crazy here?
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Yes, it's crazy here,
because I still feel like the old Suzan.
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It's a bit stressful with all the people.
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Then I have to get on that stage.
I think it's more stressful here.
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-Things converge here.
-Yes.
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-Nice, right? In Berlin.
-When did it happen?
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Nice, right? I was totally surprised.
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We were in Berlin on Monday morning.
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He said, "What a coincidence,
Coldplay is playing."
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"The first concert we went to together."
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-That's our style of music.
-I'm getting goosebumps.
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He said, "Oh, what a shame.
Or maybe it's not a coincidence."
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"I've got great VIP tickets.
The best seats."
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"To celebrate love with you,
we're going tonight." Sweet, right?
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-Shall we start?
-All good.
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-Do it?
-Yes, it's good.
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-Do you dare? I don't.
-Yeah.
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-Will you do the directing?
-No.
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You have to say it.
You have to talk loudly.
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You can do it.
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-Speech.
-No.
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Little speech.
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Hello, everyone.
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This is uncomfortable,
but we're going to do it anyway.
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At least say "hi" to everyone.
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Great that you're all here
at our Zwarte Cross pre-party.
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Since we probably won't see you
at the festival later,
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we thought we'd have a little party here.
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And also a little pre-party
for something else
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because I got down on one knee
in Berlin for Suus.
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How great.
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Congratulations.
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"Don't you get fed up with each other?"
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"Which one wears the pants?"
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"Do you ever argue? Oh, what about?"
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They always ask which characteristics
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of Suus or mine the other doesn't like.
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To which I still
need to find the perfect answer,
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but it always comes down to,
"No, we really like it…"
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It's always the same question.
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SIX MONTHS EARLIER
START OF THE CLUB TOUR
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Now it's silent
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AT HOME
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Your hand in mine
Or is this too little to carry on?
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I just don't know how
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With everything I do
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I can't bear it when the evening comes
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Oh, because in the evening
I miss you often
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I think it was very strange for everyone
because we'd just gone through corona.
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We sat at home for two years,
then suddenly we could restart.
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We went from zero to a hundred.
Suddenly our schedule was totally full.
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So much happened that this…
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I feel we have now come so much further.
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It all went fairly organically.
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There was no great plan
for what to do next.
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And the popularity grew.
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The shows became bigger.
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And then came corona.
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Suzan and Freek
kept doing their own thing.
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But what no one realized
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was that once corona was over,
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they had gotten so big.
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Actually we knew it,
but we didn't feel it.
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We didn't, they didn't either.
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I've already thought a hundred times
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I'll call you tonight
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Tonight
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I'll tell you I still think of you
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Waited a hundred times
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But I'll call you tonight
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Tonight
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Have you already played this?
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-No.
-Okay.
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Just the intro as usual.
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And then I say "okay" again.
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Then you tap him in.
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We'll have to see if that goes smoothly.
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And then we play it all the way to…
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From the bridge, from the sing-along bit.
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And at some point,
we start counting out. Then we know it.
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That's too complicated, Freek.
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It's nice, though.
It doesn't matter, does it?
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You'd better get it right tomorrow.
Keep it like it was.
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Yes, Freek. It sounds better.
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Try to do it one bar earlier.
Give it a try.
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But tomorrow we'll do it differently.
Why are we doing this?
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-Let's try it once.
-Okay, one more time.
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I think Suzan has a keen eye for detail
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and wants to be sure
what their product is.
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They are both like that.
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Freek too. But he's also
a bit of a rocker, so to speak.
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-Yeah.
-He has done something.
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He wants it to be really great
and assert his own view.
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And it's funny that Suus will then say,
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"We need to move on now.
We've only got five more minutes."
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And that really is the case.
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But you can see Freek thinking,
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"I don't want that.
I just want to figure this out now."
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So that's the conflict.
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But I actually think
they have a good balance.
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Yeah, me too.
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They're the perfect couple
you could follow all day on Instagram
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without getting tired of them.
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Because they're not acting,
they're genuine.
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They don't act any differently
from how we know them.
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I like trying out the ideas,
but at some point--
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That's what the sound check is for.
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As for the rest… We don't have
rehearsals with the band, we have nothing.
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That's the time for it, let's use it.
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That's true too.
But let's change it first.
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Let's try again tomorrow.
We have another show.
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-I spent hours on it this morning.
-We're doing it then?
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After five minutes, "let's leave it."
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Yeah, then I'm going to look into it.
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-It doesn't have to be all at once.
-Okay.
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I'm not going to do it.
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Let's not forget that we're a team.
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Yeah, of course.
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Hey.
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-Hello.
-Hey. Hello.
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When you get bigger,
a lot of things come into play.
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It becomes more
about other things and less about music.
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I have one more question
about Farmer Wants a Wife.
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And that's why I want to do things myself.
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Because that only has to do
with making music, so to speak.
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And…
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I miss that sometimes
because everything gets bigger
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and music becomes
a smaller percentage of what you're doing.
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-Yes.
-Yeah, it's the last show.
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-Who's got a yell?
-Who has a yell?
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-Well. Super, guys.
-Yeah. Hey!
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Maybe it's also a case of letting go.
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But we used to do
everything as a pair, so…
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And that is a bit…
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At some point, someone else has to do it.
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But I try to hold on as long as possible
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because for me,
it's very much about making music,
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and why I started making music
and why I really like playing in a band
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and being very much on top
of everything that happens.
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The two of us always played covers,
and we decided where it went.
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It would be crazy to play with a band now
and let all that go.
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Even more beautiful than I imagine
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Even more beautiful than your reflection
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As an artist, I'm not insecure,
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because I'm happy with what we do
and I'm proud of what we do.
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As a singer still, sometimes…
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because I think
Suus sings much better than me.
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And I've always seen myself
more as a guitarist
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who also sang a bit.
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And now it's the opposite.
I often don't have a guitar
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but just stand and sing on stage.
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I still often hear a little voice,
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"I'm actually a guitarist
who doesn't have his guitar with him."
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Thank you.
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When I move on stage wearing heels,
I do this. With my heels on.
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So I don't move.
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I'm much more masculine, or tougher.
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And then it doesn't fit together.
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And Freek is just really handsome.
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He just looks like a model.
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And I have a somewhat
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more characteristic face.
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I'm not totally dissatisfied at all,
but not super satisfied either.
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If I look nice, I think, yes that's good.
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But if it's a bad angle or something,
I really think…
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Then you can really detest yourself.
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So…
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Yeah, I do find it difficult sometimes.
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I don't want
to make a big issue out of it.
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I'm rummaging in my purse
with all my drugstore makeup.
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When streaming, it's with other women.
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But now I'm alone with Freek
and I don't have a real comparison.
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But when I'm with other women,
I often have…
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Then they have their own makeup artists,
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and they sit for hours.
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They look great. More and more beautiful.
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Then I think a bit,
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we have half an hour.
I think I'll see the makeup artist.
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Like with the men, I just sit down.
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Then I think, should I do more?
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Then you doubt yourself.
Is this a good choice?
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Because you stand alongside them.
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But… yeah.
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I'm still a bit lost.
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Until now, I've always done it this way.
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-Hi there.
-Hello.
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I'm covered in sequins.
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SINGING COACH
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I slept really poorly last night,
maybe just a little stress, I guess.
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I felt like it was my stomach,
like you said.
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And I ate fruit
and had a good lunch today,
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and now I haven't had dinner,
just a banana.
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I'll eat right after the show,
to keep my stomach calm.
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Because I've noticed
I'm coughing much less now.
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-Oh, yes. You see? That's good.
-Yeah.
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When we were allowed to perform again,
I got sick after a few shows.
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I got a kind of laryngitis,
and I got everything at once.
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It really scared me.
"What have I got, how long will it last?"
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I was suffering so much
that I even had to cancel some shows.
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It was terrible.
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Try not to breathe in too much.
Especially where your hand is.
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That's it.
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It does vibrate a bit,
so you might feel a tickle
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but not so bad
that I actually have to cough.
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She's a real perfectionist.
If she finds she can't do something well,
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she works on it
and makes sure that it's good.
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But with your body,
you can't take care of it yourself.
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You need to take time to get better.
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But she's very hard on herself.
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She already found it hard
to sing at 80% for an evening
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because she always gives 110%.
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So that really caused me a lot of stress.
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You suddenly think,
wow, we're all here together
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but we're dependent
on my voice and Freek's voice.
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Because, however unpleasant,
you can replace a band member,
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but if Freek goes on stage
with someone else,
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I don't know if people would accept that.
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I felt some pressure.
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All my life…
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-It feels okay.
-Good.
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-Just precarious.
-It's all there, right?
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I just feel a bit… It will be fine.
284
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And just cast off
the consonants quickly, as Tamara says.
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-Or just hold out the mic. Your turn!
-Now your turn.
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And if you make it
to a song where you think…
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It's tense when you've been sick, but…
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you've got it.
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Very precise.
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If she was working on something,
it had to be--
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-Good.
-Good, yes.
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She was very busy with music back then.
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SUZAN'S PARENTS
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Small piano, large piano.
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Always busy with music.
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You got this, Suusje.
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-Huh? Good luck.
-Good luck.
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It will be fine.
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-It'll be fine, yeah?
-Yeah.
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Keep in mind, the audience is up close.
301
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-Yeah.
-So you don't get a shock.
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Whatever he did,
everything had to be possible.
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You could say in advance,
"You can't do that."
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FREEK'S MOTHER
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Well, he thought it could be done
and did it his own way.
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He also didn't care
what he used to make music.
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A tiny guitar, ukulele,
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even on a tennis racket,
it didn't matter what.
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He made the show himself.
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When I see him performing now,
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I think, Freek, delightful.
You're still that toddler at heart.
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Just now you're on a different stage.
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But really you're still just
that kid from 15 years ago, so yeah.
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Asked for an opinion
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I'm no longer myself
And that already feels strange
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Normally everything passes me by
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But not today
This one's for me
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This one's for me
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This one's for me
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This one's for me
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This one's for me
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This one's for me
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Everyone in Arnhem. Thank you!
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Voilà.
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-Oh man.
-Hey.
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I'm glad I survived it.
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-You did it.
-So good, man.
328
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-I'm happy with it.
-Well done.
329
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My voice is better too, thankfully.
330
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It was good, man.
331
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It went well. Good that you jumped in.
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If I just stay quiet, I don't cough.
333
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I'm so happy. Really well done.
334
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It was good.
If you haven't played for a week
335
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and then it's suddenly full force.
336
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-Yeah.
-Well done. Are you happy?
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-Very happy.
-Relieved?
338
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Yes, it's a relief.
339
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Freek was the first real
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serious relationship
where she was really in love.
341
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I think Freek was 14 and Suzan 15…
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SUZAN'S SISTER
343
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…so they've been together for a long time.
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She was always busy with him.
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At our middle school,
we always had school concerts
346
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and the years were a bit mixed.
347
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,600
And then things
kind of developed between them.
348
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That was a love of…
349
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Then, one afternoon,
he was at Suzan's, trampolining
350
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and he came home and said, "We broke up."
351
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"We saw each other too much."
Well, then the courtship was over.
352
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,280
Afterwards, Suus would always say,
"I really miss Freek."
353
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She was on MSN the whole time.
354
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SUZAN'S FRIENDS
355
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-She was online the whole time.
-Yeah.
356
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,360
-So that Freek… Well, it worked.
-Yeah.
357
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It didn't take long,
then Freek was like "Hmm."
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Freek was a showman.
359
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If I walked into a bar behind him,
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all the women's heads would turn…
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FREEK'S FRIEND
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…and you're there thinking,
"They're all looking at Freek."
363
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,360
I think Freek is the party animal
364
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,640
and Suzan is more serious.
365
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,560
And it works well.
That Freek is occasionally pulled along,
366
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"You're not staying out until three, four.
Come home with me."
367
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,280
And at one point,
I came downstairs on a Sunday evening.
368
00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:19,440
Jesse was on the couch, and I said,
"Freek's forgotten his sweater."
369
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And Jesse said, "If he forgot his sweater,
370
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he's forgotten his shoes too."
371
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,240
Yeah.
372
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And so my dad went straight upstairs,
373
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and they were lying there together.
In the bottom of the bunk bed, I think.
374
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For us, it was a sign
that this was serious.
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AT HOME
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We spend a lot of time together.
377
00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,160
People often ask
if we drive each other crazy,
378
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,560
but I don't think so.
379
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I can spend every day with Freek.
It's all good.
380
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I know him inside and out.
381
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,800
He knows when to keep his mouth shut,
or when he can chat with me.
382
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-Almost 3,000 tickets already sold.
-Great.
383
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,200
In three hours?
384
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-Pretty relaxed.
-"Pretty relaxed"? Totally insane.
385
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,600
If this sells out quickly,
then there's that on top.
386
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,560
And if not?
387
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,680
-Then not.
-Okay.
388
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,560
Then you have a theater tour of 47 shows.
389
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,680
I'm very organized,
but my schedule is full.
390
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,760
This is it, I know exactly….
we don't need to add more.
391
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,560
And Freek can take on three other jobs,
he can handle that.
392
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,960
He never gets stressed, no.
393
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,400
I'm a very responsible person.
394
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,160
I need to sleep well, eat a bit well,
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have a bit of structure in my life,
396
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,280
then I have self-confidence,
then I feel good.
397
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,880
And with Freek there,
398
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,200
I don't have to do anything alone.
Freek and I together, that's nice.
399
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,480
I find that I need structure above all.
400
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,480
If I sit on the couch,
it doesn't work out,
401
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,160
because I get into
a kind of miserable state.
402
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,120
I'm waiting
until I can do something again.
403
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,200
I always think I'm quite relaxed,
404
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,400
but sometimes I realize,
maybe if you just keep doing things,
405
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,320
it doesn't necessarily make you relaxed.
406
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,160
But for me, it is also a way
407
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,320
to keep a bit of space free in my head.
408
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,720
PREPARATION FOR ZIGGO DOME SHOWS
409
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,680
-So sick.
-Yeah.
410
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,240
Really funny.
411
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,000
-Fucking huge, hey?
-Yeah.
412
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,840
-Where do we go?
-Here, I think.
413
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,920
I think here too. There's a door.
414
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,720
-Hey.
-Hello.
415
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,360
Should we ask?
It looks like a loading dock.
416
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,680
-No, here's the hall.
-Oh, we're there!
417
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,880
Totally sick, right?
418
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,560
Jesus Christ.
419
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,680
The second section too, that's really…
420
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,960
-It's far away.
-You don't want to be queasy.
421
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,200
You can't imagine
that it will all be full soon.
422
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,400
-Well…
-You can?
423
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,760
Hi, Mom.
424
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,600
-Hi.
-Look where I am.
425
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,760
No amount of money
could get me on that stage.
426
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,120
-I don't doubt it.
-Won't you just die?
427
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,200
-And here's the stage.
-Terrible.
428
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,600
And there's the center stage.
That's funny too.
429
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,120
And where do we stand? Below?
430
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,440
Between the first and second sections.
431
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,240
There's the section
where you can invite people along.
432
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,480
-And you'll be over there.
-Where the lights are?
433
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,240
Yes, by the lights. By the round ones.
434
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,680
Really.
435
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,040
And that's the VIP section
where we always were.
436
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,000
That's where you always performed, right?
437
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,080
Yes, that in-between bit back there.
438
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,800
That's your little tent.
439
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,720
That's our tent. Yes, right.
It got out of control.
440
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,640
Some people go cycling or sit in a bar.
441
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,400
-Freek and Suzan made music together.
-Yes.
442
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,080
And did a lot of performances.
In bars too.
443
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,000
-Until late at night.
-A side job, at the same time.
444
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,320
-It was kind of--
-They worked hard.
445
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,040
Freek had a guitar,
and Suzan had that keyboard,
446
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:44,960
and Wout helped with the sound.
447
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,240
Suzan herself once said,
448
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,120
"If I know Wout is there,
I can perform well."
449
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,560
So Wout was very important in their lives.
450
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,920
I much preferred
being active behind the scenes.
451
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FREEK'S BROTHER
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Freek just enjoyed making music.
453
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,520
We'd often tinker together
to make a pedal board for a guitar,
454
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,480
or he would buy something online…
455
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040
He didn't have a driver's license,
so I had to go along
456
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:09,920
or drive him over to Suzan.
457
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,920
Yeah, that was a really good time.
458
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,200
Because everything
we experienced together,
459
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,880
he then used to further himself.
460
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,280
-I'm curious to see if it's the same.
-Yeah.
461
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,880
-The corner here.
-Yeah.
462
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,400
They've got new screens.
463
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,800
-Member lounge.
-Oh yeah.
464
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:30,960
This is where we were.
465
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,640
These tables weren't there
and we stood here.
466
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,080
-Yeah.
-And people sat here eating.
467
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,840
And that's where the food was served.
468
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,600
We would see it coming over.
469
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,960
That was always funny
because usually you're timing it a bit.
470
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,000
You work toward the last song in the set.
471
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,640
To a kind of encore.
472
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,920
That never came.
473
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,840
And here you'd be playing,
and someone would come in,
474
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,880
"The concert is starting."
And everyone would get up.
475
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,280
And we were like, "Have fun!"
476
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,600
-Exactly. "The end."
-Yeah. "Ta-da!"
477
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,520
Here are some more performances
in the Ziggo Dome.
478
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,600
So we were here. That was over there.
479
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,480
-You always had a tie on.
-Always a white shirt with a tie.
480
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,680
If someone needed a waiter,
I was always ready to help.
481
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,000
Here, that was there.
482
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,520
-Yeah.
-How funny.
483
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,560
2014. So that's eight years ago.
484
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,200
Seven-and-a-half years ago.
485
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,120
When they started recording
The Minutes for Facebook,
486
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,280
and they brought out
a new number every week,
487
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,400
they needed a name.
488
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,400
Then they set up a Facebook page
as "Suzan & Freek." That's who they were.
489
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,800
So they didn't think of a real name.
490
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Only when they started performing
as Suzan & Freek
491
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,040
did the name really become their name
because then we could no longer change it.
492
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,640
I thought this time was really nice.
493
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,720
Freek lived in Tilburg,
494
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,400
and Suzan lived in Delft.
495
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,640
They had their own lives, the two of them.
496
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,920
Then they had The Minute,
and on weekends they traveled
497
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000
to Achterhoek together, if possible,
or separately,
498
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,320
because The Minute had to be recorded.
499
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,320
Then it was released
on Friday evening at 6:30.
500
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,760
That was the best time, Freek said,
to put something on Facebook.
501
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,720
…positioned like that? It's a bit uneven.
502
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,840
That bungling around
eventually helped them move forward.
503
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,040
-Ladies.
-And gentlemen.
504
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,120
-Give yourself a clap.
-Because we have…
505
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,440
Twenty thousand likes!
506
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,080
KORTENHOEF, JANUARY 2022
507
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,000
GOLD
508
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,240
Does it hang like that?
509
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,560
The advantage is
that you're also the artist.
510
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,880
Yes, great.
511
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,880
-A bit more there.
-I agree. Okay.
512
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,840
I think the start and end are great,
but that middle section…
513
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,000
-Yes, much less.
-Do you feel as if…
514
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,840
-It's not connected.
-Just do…
515
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,120
It needs to be simpler.
I'm hearing that now.
516
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,800
The first time I heard of Suzan & Freek,
517
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,640
we had sort of agreed to be in the studio
518
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,120
and get a cup of coffee.
519
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,080
Usually if I'm asked,
520
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,600
I would check, "What do they do?"
521
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,360
Or say, "Send me something."
522
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,680
Or what makes sense at the time.
523
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,040
"Do you have any videos online,
so I can hear what you do?"
524
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,360
So I vaguely remember
that there was a video.
525
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,080
And it needs to grab me right away.
526
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,000
MUSIC PRODUCER
527
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,000
So I think, I like what you're doing.
528
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,160
And I can add something for you.
529
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,960
All my life
530
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,440
I've been meeting the same people
531
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,280
How can it suddenly be so simple?
532
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,240
How can it suddenly be so simple?
533
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,280
What if we make this a chorus?
534
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,960
I do feel the urge to--
535
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,200
-You want to do something with this?
-Well…
536
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,200
If you feel it too.
537
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,000
-It's nice.
-It's a strong piece.
538
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,400
We started putting other people's songs
into the "Suzan & Freek" wrapper.
539
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,880
Suus behind the piano, Freek on guitar.
540
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,680
It was instantly good together.
541
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,920
What we're doing sounds cool.
542
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,800
Not concerned about
what the outside world thinks
543
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,440
or how big it could be.
544
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,480
That's not too important in the beginning.
545
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,840
But in time. Just so, right?
546
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,640
This feels totally left,
and that feels totally right.
547
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,920
-That's what we were looking for.
-Exactly.
548
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,720
Let's give ourselves 15 minutes
to get everything set down.
549
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,360
The first thing we ever did
was a song that was a hit at the time.
550
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,800
That was six years ago.
551
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,680
That was The Chainsmokers
with "Don't Let Me Down."
552
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,800
MUSIC VIDEO, 2016
553
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,240
And we gave it a totally different feel
554
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,240
that is typically Suzan & Freek.
555
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,480
Then we said, "This sounds super cool."
556
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,800
We brought it out.
557
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,960
Which means it was on Spotify, you know.
558
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,040
Don't let me down
559
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,360
I remember them standing here.
560
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,480
"Shall we post it or not?"
561
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,760
I said,
"Guys, I'm going to the supermarket."
562
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,760
I came back from shopping,
563
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,520
"You won't believe it.
The artist has responded!"
564
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,360
"I told you that you should do it."
565
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,400
If I recall,
they then did a club tour right away
566
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,560
with covers.
567
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,280
And it sold out.
568
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,520
-Holy moly.
-Really an intimate little hall.
569
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,080
The smallest of our…
570
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,680
Arie?
571
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,960
Hi.
572
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,920
-Jerry Mulder. Very nice.
-Last time, it was the three of us here.
573
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,040
-The two of us.
-Five-and-a-half years ago.
574
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,120
-Up there on the balcony.
-150 people.
575
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,360
-The three of us.
-We were talking about that.
576
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,320
Five-and-a-half years ago, our first one.
577
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,240
-Crazy, right? As if it were yesterday.
-Yeah.
578
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Cool, right.
579
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,000
Nice too, that it's so small.
580
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,240
On October 21st, 2017,
we had our very first show here.
581
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120
The very first club show
of the group Suzan & Freek.
582
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,320
In the upper hall.
583
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,400
And we had one crew member,
584
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,360
and he's over there in the corner,
Jerry Mulder, ladies and gentlemen.
585
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880
He was backliner, lighting technician,
front of house, and monitor man.
586
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,960
And security.
587
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,960
Financial director.
588
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,760
He doesn't have to do anything now.
He's earned it all.
589
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,160
The first time I heard of them,
590
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,000
I was working
at the 4Days Marches in Nijmegen.
591
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,960
I was a freelancer
and I worked for the company
592
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,480
that arranged the light and sound
for that stage.
593
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,760
I had no idea who Suzan & Freek were.
594
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,960
SOUND ENGINEER
595
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,600
I had to google them.
596
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,880
I had to look online to see who they were.
597
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,280
So I knew who I had to look for,
an image, so to say.
598
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,320
But they could
just have been two people in town,
599
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,320
walking through the town.
600
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,520
Yeah, great.
601
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,720
-I might go very…
-He stood here.
602
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,800
Last chorus.
603
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000
It was a relatively small stage.
604
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,040
There was no room for a band.
It was full with two people.
605
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Nice, guys.
606
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,200
I thought, where's everyone coming from?
607
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,920
It was suddenly so full.
608
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,560
We'll see who can sing loudest.
Are we ready?
609
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,840
NIJMEGEN 4DAYS MARCHES
JULY 2017
610
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,960
We'll start with my side. Here it comes.
611
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,640
One, two, three.
612
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,640
We can do it better.
Let's go! One, two, three.
613
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,520
We can be louder!
614
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,600
One, two three.
615
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,840
Then I realized that they were
more famous than I thought they were.
616
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,800
We were in Nijmegen tonight,
and it went like this…
617
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,480
Then we stayed in touch.
618
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,480
That's why I'm sitting here now.
619
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720
When I go back and forth, it gets so…
620
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280
-So boring.
-Here in the lows.
621
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,160
I want it to be even cooler.
I find it too easy.
622
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,720
Can I say that?
623
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,960
It began to snowball
and kept getting bigger.
624
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,800
At that time, I also had Bierpop.
625
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,840
I asked if they wanted
to play as the opening act.
626
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,520
"Oh, yes. Very much. What an honor."
And all saying "Wow!"
627
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,440
ARTIST
628
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,800
It was really nice
629
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,840
because they sat there together
630
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,280
with her on the piano
and Freek all dopey.
631
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,560
Sorry, Freek.
632
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,720
On the guitar, a bit like this.
633
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,680
And so nervous, boy.
634
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,640
But the hall sang along with everything,
635
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:43,240
and then I realized,
636
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,600
this will last another month,
then it's going to explode.
637
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,080
They did more shows.
638
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,560
They were the opening act
for international shows.
639
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,840
Always doing covers.
640
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,640
Then we said, "Shall we write a song?"
641
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,080
"Yeah, that's good."
642
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,680
And I asked,
"Have you ever written a song?"
643
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,440
"We've never written a song.
We've tried, but it was nothing."
644
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,160
-"Shall we write a song then?"
-"Okay."
645
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,760
Freek worked with us behind the scenes,
646
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,680
and we did talk about those videos.
647
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,760
How they did it, why they did it.
648
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,760
And I increasingly came to understand
649
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,520
that we could learn from him as a label.
650
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,680
How he has a very strong sense
of what works for people.
651
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,360
What works for the public.
652
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,800
We always said,
"If you have your own song,
653
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,280
we'll talk about it."
654
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,800
Until Freek came to my office one day,
655
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,640
"We've written our own song."
656
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,760
And I remember. It doesn't happen often,
and I'll say it here…
657
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,800
I heard that song once and I said,
"Freek, that's a genuine hit."
658
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,520
I remember he replied, "You think so?"
659
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,560
I can't bear it when the evening comes
660
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,040
Oh, because in the evening
I miss you often
661
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,560
You know I don't listen
When you talk like that
662
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,120
And touch me like that
And then leave
663
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,840
Tell me it will be fine
664
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,080
Give me pieces of future
665
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,960
Or should I just let you go
666
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,960
I can't bear it when the evening comes
667
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,760
I have truly missed you often
668
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,680
You'd be in the supermarket
and suddenly hear "Als het avond is."
669
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Then you would think, guys!
670
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,040
All week, "This is her."
671
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,480
I still get that today.
672
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,200
Recently at the hairdresser,
it came on. Every time.
673
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,000
She's only human,
but so special, and you're so proud.
674
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,440
Thank you all for coming this evening.
675
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,040
Hopefully you get home quickly.
676
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,920
-Safe journey. Thank you.
-Thank you.
677
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,040
I like it best with the bun on her head.
678
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,440
This is also nice, but…
679
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,360
This is just for one night, you know.
In the glam.
680
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,520
In the glam.
681
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,320
It's pretty, that dress.
682
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,920
-You think it's pretty?
-Yeah.
683
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,120
Okay.
684
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,120
Armpits well-shaved?
685
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,160
Am I overdressed?
I see understated dresses.
686
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,800
-No, look at her. I was just about to say.
-Oh no.
687
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,880
-Will it be okay?
-Yeah.
688
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,480
-No, but I still feel like…
-That's always true with things like this.
689
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,240
-Suzan, act like an artist.
-Yeah.
690
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,920
EDISON POP AWARDS 2022
691
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,920
I realize that
I didn't start this to become famous.
692
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,680
That's the only thing
I find difficult at times.
693
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,720
And that's maybe the reason
694
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,480
why we never do anything
non-music related on TV.
695
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,920
-Very good.
-Great.
696
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,240
I like music. I don't find being famous…
697
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,600
I would rather not be.
698
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Great.
699
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,240
I don't know
if people have a complete image of me,
700
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,400
because I'm not
a person who reveals my inner thoughts.
701
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,200
I also always tend
to make a joke out of everything,
702
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,320
whether good or bad.
703
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,400
I had a kind of Star Wars robot outfit,
704
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,200
and when I turned up,
Suus said, "We're not doing that." No, no…
705
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,680
On the other hand, that is who I am.
706
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,840
I'm still frequently discovering who I am,
707
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,560
and it's an ongoing quest.
708
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,440
-How are you?
-Yeah, I'm good.
709
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,640
I've sometimes heard people
talking about Suzan & Freek
710
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,480
and I didn't think
they were talking about me.
711
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,120
Suzan & Freek has become
a separate thing in itself.
712
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,880
I think the challenge is
713
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,800
for us to clearly determine
what we will and won't give away.
714
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,360
If you can dream it, you can do it.
715
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,840
Likeable and Dutch to the core.
716
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,960
The Edison in the "Album" category
goes to Suzan & Freek.
717
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:10,640
Wow.
718
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,840
Thank you. An Edison.
719
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,720
Hey, thank you. Also nice.
720
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,400
-Great.
-Great.
721
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,000
-Together is good.
-Yeah.
722
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,320
Freek was already
working in the music industry
723
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,720
behind the scenes.
Before we did this, before we were famous.
724
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,560
And I used to go along
to the music festivals.
725
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,120
And nobody spoke to me,
which I thought was great.
726
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,120
I'm a bit of an introvert, just let me
stand in a corner with a drink.
727
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,040
And now, suddenly,
everyone comes over to me.
728
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,120
And sometimes I think,
do these people really like me?
729
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,440
Or do they want to get something from me?
730
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,840
It feels that way at times.
731
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,680
You get the feeling
that everyone wants something from you.
732
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,720
We have very good people around us.
I'm looked after.
733
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,200
THE ACHTERHOEK
FREEK'S MOTHER'S HOUSE, APRIL 2022
734
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,040
Hi, hi.
735
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,880
Do you always leave keys in the door?
736
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,000
-All good?
-Freekie.
737
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,800
-Yes.
-Yeah. All right.
738
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,800
You've got a book by Robbie Williams?
739
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,800
Yes, you can have it. I got it this week.
740
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,600
-Is it good?
-I had…
741
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,720
I got to pick out all these books,
and then I thought
742
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,520
if Freek comes, I could surprise you with…
743
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,960
-Nice.
-Take it with you.
744
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,280
-Freek, do you want tea or coffee?
-I'll have water.
745
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,000
The best song?
746
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,280
I still find "Hoofd in de wolken"
a really nice song.
747
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:40,800
And…
748
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,040
"Als het avond is."
I think that's a nice song, but…
749
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,400
it's a painful song for me.
750
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,960
-I don't know myself.
-You've got plenty of records.
751
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,280
Maybe also "Als het avond is."
Just because it was the first
752
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,000
and, looking back, it also related to you.
753
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,560
But Freek, that song was…
754
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,080
-You'd already finished it in July.
-Yeah.
755
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,480
And when the bolt from the blue
came in August…
756
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,760
-You separated, yeah.
-We separated.
757
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,240
I mean, from one moment to the next…
758
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,160
So actually…
759
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,640
The story was tacked on afterward.
760
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,240
Yes, while you--
761
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,480
-But when you hear the lyrics.
-Yeah.
762
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,560
-That was exactly it.
-Yeah.
763
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,240
-Strange.
-Very much.
764
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,760
When we'd just broken through,
765
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,200
you separated from each other,
and that was a moment
766
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,600
where I…
767
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,520
Everyone had enough on their plate.
768
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,880
In that situation,
if things were not going so well for me,
769
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,080
I didn't want to pass that on to you.
770
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,720
The night that you first…
771
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,240
I'm telling it.
772
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,800
The night that you played it
for the first time…
773
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,960
I think it was a Wednesday evening.
774
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,080
At eight o'clock, we, Vincent and I,
775
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,640
put our signatures on the divorce papers.
776
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:04,360
The same evening.
I'll never forget that moment.
777
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,200
So that song has so much meaning for me.
778
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,600
But people around us all say,
779
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,840
"How can a song be made like that?
It's your story."
780
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,080
-Yeah, exactly.
-But it still touches me.
781
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,360
In just one moment,
782
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,840
your entire family is turned upside down.
783
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,040
You always think
that other parents get divorced.
784
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,440
You hear about
so-and-so with divorced parents.
785
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,800
And my parents were both almost 60.
786
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,200
You think it won't ever happen.
787
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,520
But it did happen.
788
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,840
I hadn't been living at home
for seven or eight years.
789
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,720
I would go home on the weekend,
790
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,400
but I didn't necessarily realize
that it wasn't going so well for them.
791
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,760
So it really came as a blow.
792
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,680
And, in the beginning,
793
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,720
I didn't have much contact with my father.
794
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,960
He was with his new love.
795
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,960
I find it difficult because
I don't really like to talk about it.
796
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:22,320
Suus in particular really helped me a lot.
797
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,800
It costs me a lot of energy
to be angry with people.
798
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,160
I think I handle it best by saying,
799
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:32,800
"Let's try and look at the good things."
800
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,480
And let's see what we can take from that.
801
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Suus really helped me with that.
802
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,680
Today is a bit of a special day for us.
803
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,440
-We already mentioned, it's my birthday.
-It's your birthday too, Freek.
804
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,240
But also because
it's three years to the day
805
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,160
since "Als het avond is"
reached number one.
806
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,640
And I think it's a funny story
because we both had regular jobs
807
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,800
and we didn't really have
that much to do with music.
808
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,440
We just did it as a hobby.
809
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,880
And we thought, let's write our own song.
810
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,080
And we'll see.
811
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,040
And we brought it out,
and it kept growing until suddenly
812
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,160
it was at number one.
On that Sunday evening, we decided,
813
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:21,360
"We're going to resign and go for it."
814
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,440
Well, look at us now.
815
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,760
I'm so proud when I see all this.
816
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,360
Thank you for coming.
817
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,120
Sometimes I feel bad
818
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,520
That you don't want
To talk so much any more
819
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,880
Then I miss the time
When I could be angry with you
820
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,960
Now it's silent
821
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,040
As night falls
822
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,800
I whisper softly
823
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,880
Do you hear me maybe?
824
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,440
I just don't know how
825
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,000
With everything I do
826
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:11,440
I can't bear it when the evening comes
827
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,920
Oh, because in the evening
I miss you often
828
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,680
Tell me it will be fine
829
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,920
Give me pieces of future
830
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,280
Or should I just let you go?
831
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,920
I can't bear it when the evening comes
832
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,560
I have truly missed you often
833
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,360
Hey, Suzan & Freek.
834
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,920
…that no one's following us, no security.
835
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,800
-He's in shot.
-Yes, exactly.
836
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,520
-Wait, no. That's right.
-Yeah.
837
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,360
It's usually like that.
I go that way. I stand here.
838
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,880
-The other way round to usual.
-Yeah.
839
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,960
Am I walking all alone?
840
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,040
-Or is there a security guard?
-There's someone in the background.
841
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,440
-No.
-Maybe on this step or that one?
842
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,240
-One of the steps.
-Use that step?
843
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,320
When I first heard
the plans for the Ziggo Dome,
844
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,400
I have to admit that…
845
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,120
If you think about it rationally
846
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,520
from an industry perspective,
you think, "Steady now, guys."
847
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,440
But Suzan & Freek,
the rules don't apply to them.
848
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,160
Wow.
849
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Bizarre to think this will be
totally full of people tonight.
850
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,640
Freek is truly
the brains behind Suzan & Freek,
851
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:35,880
who is busy planning well in advance.
852
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,480
I think Freek already dreamed
of the Ziggo Dome at an early stage
853
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,440
while Suzan was still focused
on the neighborhood bar.
854
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,960
-Hi, honey. How are things?
-Hi.
855
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,920
-Pretty heavy, huh?
-This one was very heavy, I thought.
856
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,160
It bothered me
that so much still needs doing.
857
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:55,320
-Yeah, but it's a lot for everyone.
-I think that too.
858
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,120
-I don't blame anyone.
-No.
859
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,880
-It was just chaos.
-Exactly.
860
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,640
But that's… how can it be? So crazy.
861
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Sick.
862
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,000
Suzan & Freek. Ziggo Dome 2022.
863
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,280
Just look.
864
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,760
I have no idea where it is.
865
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,840
I find it quite exciting, you know.
866
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,240
Just think,
the pre-program starts at 7:30,
867
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,160
but they're not going to make it.
868
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:29,640
-I find that difficult. I'll forget it.
-Anyone have some white tape?
869
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,360
-Can I have a bit of tape?
-Hey. Hello!
870
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,160
Stress. So much stress.
Freek too, you could tell from afar.
871
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,480
Because there's so much to run through
and things keep going wrong.
872
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,240
That makes Freek and me nervous.
873
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,080
We're both people who want
everything perfectly under control.
874
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,440
You hear five men
on top of each other in your earphones.
875
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,920
-Just all mixed up.
-Yeah.
876
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,640
And you go somewhere and the stands
that should be there are missing.
877
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,400
-I hope that this evening…
-Yes, you need them here.
878
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,000
Everyone is under pressure,
but then we get nervous.
879
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,880
Actually, it's a bit too much pressure.
880
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,160
Some people might get used to it.
881
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,840
I think the pressure is inhuman today.
882
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,480
I just have to laugh at how stressed I am.
883
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,560
Wait for me.
884
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,720
-Cool, man.
-Yeah.
885
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,120
I really find this to be
something I never thought of.
886
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,320
And this is the pinnacle
of what you can do in the Netherlands.
887
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,640
-Great. It's happening.
-Yeah.
888
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,960
Do you feel the light?
889
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Totally rock style.
890
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,160
Sick.
891
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,680
So great, this.
892
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,040
-Enjoy it, huh?
-This is totally rock style.
893
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,360
I look around me
894
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,440
And see the same street
895
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,760
But it suddenly feels as if
896
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,080
There is a new light here
897
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,080
Because we dream in color
898
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,880
I have to say that Freek and I,
899
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,800
over the past two years,
900
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,200
have dreamed
of a moment like this so often.
901
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,880
"How long will it take?
When can we finally do it?"
902
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,880
When you think
that everyone there came for you.
903
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,040
All singing at the top of their lungs.
That tank of energy.
904
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,480
I think that's great. It touches me.
905
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,880
Then you see
all those people standing there.
906
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,880
The madness.
That's when I did shed a tear.
907
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,280
It's always fun to play.
908
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,200
The energy that's released,
it draws you in.
909
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,560
The way their performances have evolved
910
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,520
was very clear at the Ziggo Dome.
911
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,200
You suddenly realize
it's become a really big show.
912
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,360
Ziggo Dome!
913
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,120
There are so many people with talent,
and not everyone gets to live it.
914
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,000
Astonishment.
915
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Pride.
916
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,200
You don't always
have to have much experience
917
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,040
but just trust in yourself and go for it.
918
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,320
Great!
919
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,480
-It went well, right?
-Yeah.
920
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,440
It was great, right?
921
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,360
-Are you happy?
-It was crazy.
922
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,920
-Are you happy?
-Yes, really happy. And you?
923
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,560
Hundred percent. Yeah.
924
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:43,480
Hey, Suus. There she is.
925
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,200
Hi, Mom.
926
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,280
Hey.
927
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,280
How cool, right?
928
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,520
-Hey, Mom.
-Hi.
929
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,320
-What did you think?
-Oh man.
930
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,880
-I just sat and cried.
-Yeah?
931
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,360
How wonderful.
932
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,280
Hey.
933
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,240
Totally crazy, man.
934
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,160
-Bye.
-Bye.
935
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:09,600
What a strange feeling.
936
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,480
-Look at this photo.
-Yeah, I forwarded it.
937
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,000
-Vera with your mom.
-Nice. During "Lichtje branden."
938
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,480
How sweet.
939
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,120
Just a couple more chips.
940
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,960
I could really crave the feeling
of what just happened.
941
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,960
-The feeling of happiness is so strong.
-Yeah.
942
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,000
It's a strange feeling.
943
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,120
I'm kind of tired, but not tired at all.
944
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,880
-I thought it was great, wasn't it?
-Yeah, right?
945
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,320
Like you've come
to the top of the mountain.
946
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,480
"Here we are. The top."
947
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,840
And then, for the rest of the vacation,
948
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,440
you don't have to worry
about climbing the mountain.
949
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,080
-Is my alarm already off?
-Yeah, it's off.
950
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,920
What do you want?
951
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,840
-What?
-What do you want? Soda?
952
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,400
No, I'll have water or something.
953
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:25,720
-Great, right?
-Oh yes.
954
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,120
-I feel really tired now.
-Yeah?
955
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,680
Whoa, what the fuck? This is sick.
956
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,560
Check it out. It looks so cool.
957
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,280
You don't see that sitting there,
with the mirror balls.
958
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,360
Fuck.
959
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,680
-Cool.
-Cool, yeah?
960
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,040
The outfits are good too.
I'm happy with our outfits.
961
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,040
-It all went well.
-Yeah.
962
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,400
Arie.
963
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Yeah. Great man.
964
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,040
My legs are tired, are yours?
965
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,160
I still have some
966
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,600
of the adrenaline, you know?
967
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,040
-Yeah.
-I need to come down.
968
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,440
VACATION, SEPTEMBER 2022
969
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,560
Freek?
970
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,840
-Can you get some water?
-Of course.
971
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,760
-And some…
-Sure.
972
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,160
-Maybe something tasty, some chocolate.
-Of course.
973
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:41,520
Great.
974
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,840
Sometimes, when I look at old pictures,
975
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,760
when I see us
playing to three people somewhere,
976
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,040
I think, that's how it was back then.
977
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:55,960
Yeah.
978
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,840
When I look at photos
of us in a caravan, playing on the street.
979
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:02,800
Now, I think--
980
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,360
-What an effort.
-What a lot of effort we put in.
981
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,720
-We really persevered.
-We kept going.
982
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,280
We are Suzan & Freek.
Thank you for a lovely evening.
983
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,200
And I was just as happy
doing it for far fewer people.
984
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,520
-I liked it too.
-Now it's even more fun.
985
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,320
That wasn't our motivation for doing it.
986
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,680
-Otherwise, we might never have begun.
-No.
987
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,280
You get more and more used to it.
988
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,320
I have…
989
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,240
Slowly, it's starting to be the case
990
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,640
that we see ourselves on that list.
991
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,280
To my mind, I don't think we have changed.
992
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,840
Just the world around us has changed.
993
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,600
More people come to see us,
and people respond differently to us.
994
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,080
But I'm really happy
that things between us feel the same
995
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,360
and also between us
and our family and friends.
996
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,480
It still really feels like before,
and I think that is--
997
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,360
-Good that it never went away.
-No.
998
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,640
You often say, if I wasn't here,
you would have led a different life.
999
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,200
We've been lucky
that we've had each other.
1000
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,560
It keeps us grounded.
1001
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,160
But I can imagine,
with everything going on around you…
1002
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:12,280
It's so intense sometimes,
and it's nice to have a filter in between.
1003
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,040
For some people,
that filter is drinking or something else.
1004
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,440
And I can very well imagine
that that's enjoyable.
1005
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,800
But, luckily, we have each other
to share it a bit.
1006
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,040
Yeah.
1007
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,600
What I personally really like,
is when I think
1008
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,280
that it's actually,
1009
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,520
I don't want to say "much more fun,"
1010
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,080
but it's still loads of fun together,
and that's the most important thing.
1011
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,600
I think it's important too.
1012
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,920
I think it would be really nice
to combine it with a family at some point.
1013
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,080
That would really be…
1014
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,520
I would like that very much.
1015
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,240
Even though the sun sets ten times
1016
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,080
Even though the tide is turning again
1017
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,640
Let me lose myself for a while
1018
00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:03,920
In a dream
1019
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,800
And then you stand before me again
1020
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:18,400
Even though I may be dreaming
1021
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,800
But there is nothing…
1022
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,360
-Warm weather now?
-Yeah.
1023
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,440
Look.
1024
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,360
Gosh, what an animal!
1025
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,000
More exercise than we've had
for the past two weeks.
1026
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,520
Speak for yourself, fatty.
1027
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,040
Bitch.
1028
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,480
Just use this song as an anchor
1029
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,160
Suus, you start.
1030
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,000
Can I go on that side?
Then I can see better.
1031
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,360
This is mental.
1032
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,560
I can see much better from here.
Yes, that's better.
1033
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,840
Loser does the dishes.
1034
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,400
-Oh.
-Not even close.
1035
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,440
I'd like to provide
a commentary on your throws.
1036
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,720
Well, pretty close.
1037
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,920
I think I feel the pride
more than usual when I'm on vacation.
1038
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,040
I suddenly think,
so, that was really cool, right?
1039
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:06,960
Yeah.
1040
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,680
Or when we tell someone or show a video
of something we're involved in…
1041
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,040
Then I suddenly think it's really cool.
1042
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,840
Stupid. Then I think,
it's nice to enjoy it for once.
1043
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,280
Always so modest. We should also be proud.
1044
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,240
Wow. This is really cool, right?
1045
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,160
Yeah?
1046
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,600
It's really cool.
1047
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:40,280
You were sorry that I couldn't enjoy it
as much in the beginning.
1048
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,880
Because I really did enjoy it
1049
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,720
and now and then
you didn't really enjoy it so much.
1050
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,320
On the way home, you would sit in the car
1051
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,760
crying at the thought
of doing it again tomorrow.
1052
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,040
Because I didn't know
if my voice would hold up.
1053
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,000
I found it hard.
1054
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,200
-Oh my God.
-Yeah, I know. Great.
1055
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:02,560
And then I was worried because I saw
you weren't enjoying it as much as I was.
1056
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,280
And I thought, oh…
1057
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,760
Is this speed and intensity…
1058
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,040
Is this what Suzan wants?
1059
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,600
Sometimes I'm a quitter.
I think, I'm not going to do that.
1060
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,240
You're afraid of the unknown.
1061
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,040
Then you say,
"I'd rather keep doing what I…"
1062
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,240
With every concert hall,
you said, "We're doing this one?"
1063
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,840
"No, I'm happy to keep doing the old one."
1064
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,480
And that was after Ziggo--
1065
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,160
-I find it more stressful.
-Yeah.
1066
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,400
That's also an internal safety mechanism,
which is good.
1067
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:32,840
Which I sometimes have less.
1068
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,080
"The fun is in the fear,"
but it's still difficult sometimes.
1069
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,640
But you're good at that,
and with you, I'm good at it too.
1070
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,880
I really want
to fly a kite in this weather.
1071
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,680
Beautiful, isn't it?
I love it by the beach. Nice breeze.
1072
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,680
Yeah, man.
1073
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,000
The Netherlands is really small.
And Belgium. That you…
1074
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,800
Which is good,
because if it gets too much sometimes,
1075
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,040
you can simply come here,
1076
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,160
but actually I find it
much too nice to want to leave.
1077
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,320
LIBERATION DAY FESTIVAL
4 SHOWS ON 1 DAY, MAY 2022
1078
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,680
It seemed like all the special things
you can experience as an artist
1079
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,840
were all scheduled in one month.
1080
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,160
Good evening, Leeuwarden.
1081
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,280
You look good from up here.
1082
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,200
Goddamn.
1083
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,160
We're at the halfway point today.
1084
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,320
We had Ziggo,
1085
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,360
and then it all started.
1086
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,040
-Sleep at home, as much as possible.
-Yeah.
1087
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:39,840
It is a bit too busy.
1088
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,560
-Ziggo Dome.
-The Ziggo.
1089
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,640
Then came the first show,
Vrienden van Amstel,
1090
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,720
then 538 Koningsdag.
1091
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,280
Thank you.
1092
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,400
Six or seven shows, Vrienden van Amstel.
1093
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,200
ROTTERDAM, MAY 2022
1094
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,480
Four Liberation Day shows.
1095
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,960
LIBERATION DAY FESTIVAL
LEEUWARDEN, MAY 2022
1096
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,440
Four shows, Vrienden van Amstel.
1097
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,200
And so we had 18 in two weeks.
1098
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,360
Plus all the rehearsals related to it all.
1099
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,800
You sometimes forget that.
1100
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,080
Can you make sure
we hear Dirk's mic in our ears?
1101
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,520
But after "Mag ik," we go straight here.
1102
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,600
-Receive the applause.
-Yes, exactly.
1103
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,640
-Then Dirk sets the groove, and we join.
-That's good. Okay.
1104
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,640
You have rehearsals for anything new,
1105
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,800
and we rehearsed a lot
before the Ziggo Dome.
1106
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,000
And you sing a lot in private too.
1107
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,440
So, pretty grueling.
1108
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,960
It's quiet here on the other side
1109
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,160
But I come from here
1110
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,160
That was Snelle.
1111
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,040
I don't know where they get the energy.
1112
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,520
They're the two hardest working people
that I know.
1113
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,920
My colleagues and I sometimes
want to have a day when we think
1114
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,160
we'll just skip that set of photos,
1115
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,360
or we'll walk around
behind the red carpet, that sort of thing.
1116
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,960
But they always have energy
1117
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,480
and are always "on" and can do everything.
1118
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,600
I see them working, then afterwards,
just the two of them in a corner
1119
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,960
being themselves, and I think…
1120
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,680
I admire how they can always turn it on,
1121
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,640
to always be Suzan & Freek.
1122
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,920
I'm happy that was the last show
and that we persevered with it all.
1123
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,160
-And that I had a good time.
-And then you're right there again.
1124
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,960
I'd rather skip an after-party
and do an extra show
1125
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,960
because I find after-parties so…
1126
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,480
I'll do them in a few years
1127
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,800
when I'm no longer enjoying it,
then I'll celebrate all my parties.
1128
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,480
Now, I think,
we've got all the cool festivals.
1129
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,560
-Surely you can't miss that?
-Yeah.
1130
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:47,480
No.
1131
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,560
I think, how things are now,
1132
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,320
just being very respectable
1133
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,600
with no drugs, no rock 'n' roll, you know?
1134
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,960
Thank God they don't have that.
1135
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,200
Sometimes a bit,
which is too bad, but fine.
1136
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,200
But it's just really nice, you know?
1137
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,240
They are so steady, but not boring.
1138
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,800
And I think,
1139
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,600
if you can keep that up
over the long term,
1140
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,960
you can take on the whole world.
1141
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,200
If I go to bed late, I can't manage.
1142
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,400
We have to push on a bit.
1143
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,640
I think it's important to do it well.
1144
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,040
That you don't think,
1145
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,360
"If I'd just done my best
and gone to fewer after-parties
1146
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,840
because it didn't sound good."
I'd find that annoying.
1147
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,080
I wouldn't want that.
1148
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,560
It has to be good. And fun, and good.
1149
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,800
I'm always a bit scared
and think, "As long as it goes well."
1150
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,280
We can still walk.
1151
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,000
LIBERATION DAY FESTIVAL
ASSEN, MAY 2022
1152
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,760
-Hello.
-Hi. Time for a quick photo?
1153
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,720
We have to perform, sorry.
1154
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,440
You can't have photos
with everyone at a show anymore.
1155
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,880
I used to do it all the time
earlier this year.
1156
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,040
We'd spend an hour and a half
after the show taking photos with people,
1157
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,400
and then I realized
1158
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,520
it was starting to take more energy
than the show itself.
1159
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,960
Now that one,
now we have to finish the row.
1160
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,680
Half an hour, grimacing…
1161
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,320
But if you do that every night,
you realize it can't continue.
1162
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,000
"Suzan & Freek, don't do it!"
1163
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,600
Then I think, how bad.
We really shouldn't do that.
1164
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,680
I find it pathetic.
So that's tricky at times, yes.
1165
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,200
-Nice.
-Great, guys.
1166
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,760
-We'll get you straight on the bus.
-What was that?
1167
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,040
-We'll put you straight on the bus.
-Yeah, great.
1168
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,760
Holy shit.
1169
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,600
-The show was cool, right?
-It was.
1170
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,880
I'm gonna sit on the floor.
Then they won't see me.
1171
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,360
-My abs.
-Exactly.
1172
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,440
This is nice.
1173
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,240
Oh my God.
1174
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,760
Funny, I thought they wouldn't see me now.
1175
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,560
I look up and everyone is
watching me sitting on the floor.
1176
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:18,520
All waving.
1177
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,280
Can you pull that curtain shut?
1178
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,440
I'll sit for a moment.
1179
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,520
Otherwise, I always feel so…
1180
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,160
Thank you.
1181
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,000
I think we're very approachable,
which is what we want to be, and we are.
1182
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,080
But that sometimes
1183
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,160
has the disadvantage
that everyone comes up to you.
1184
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,240
Which is sometimes really nice,
but sometimes not so much.
1185
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,840
When I go to a restaurant
with Freek and my parents
1186
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,080
and we sit next to a table
with a young girl.
1187
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,320
And she begins to cry
out of panic at seeing us.
1188
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,920
And I find it intense to have that effect,
1189
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,280
that everything around us has changed.
1190
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:00,640
Everyone is waiting here.
1191
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,960
-Can you see?
-Hello.
1192
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,160
Oh, how bad. I feel so bad.
-No, that's not bad.
1193
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,000
They're waiting.
They want a photo and we're in the bus.
1194
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,720
I wish there were some blinds.
1195
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,080
-Shouldn't we go for a photo?
-You'll be there for over an hour.
1196
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,440
-There are so many people.
-Okay, that's fine.
1197
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,280
With some things,
I feel it's getting more difficult.
1198
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:26,000
When I walk by an elementary school
and the entire yard shouts my name.
1199
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,240
I think, shit, maybe I shouldn't
walk past a schoolyard anymore.
1200
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,640
Then never walk past a schoolyard again?
That's crazy.
1201
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,600
Can you turn the camera off? Thanks.
1202
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,680
On stage, it's okay.
It's more the stuff around it.
1203
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,800
Yes. Everyone just runs around
taking photos all the time.
1204
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,080
You think,
just leave me alone for a second.
1205
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,240
Keep walking.
1206
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,800
-Nice that it's just the two of us.
-Yeah, great.
1207
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,560
I'm the happiest when it's the two of us
in the car heading home.
1208
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,320
Because then everyone around us is gone
and it's just the two of us for a while.
1209
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Isn't it crazy,
what we're experiencing, you know?
1210
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,000
That's what makes me the happiest.
1211
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,760
-Right?
-Yes, honey. I like it too.
1212
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,960
It's on here,
the busiest period of the year.
1213
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,760
-We made it. Until the end.
-Yeah, right?
1214
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,560
It was a lot, but it was great.
1215
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,560
Nineteen shows in seventeen days,
1216
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,760
and each show for more than 15,000 people.
1217
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,000
I think that's pretty intense.
1218
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,720
And we were thinking,
can we do this? Will it work?
1219
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,920
Can the crew handle all these shows?
Will it work technically?
1220
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,760
-Will your voice hold out?
-Will it hold out?
1221
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,080
But it all went great,
so now the rest of the year…
1222
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,960
Surely now it will be fine.
1223
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,000
BUSSUM, MAY 2022
1224
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:10,640
Important day.
1225
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,640
Hey, hello.
1226
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,920
-Hey, hello.
-Journalist from the Weekend.
1227
01:08:26,440 --> 01:08:29,720
What a life you're living.
Compared to a couple of years ago.
1228
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,120
-You have to think, what happened?
-Yeah.
1229
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,480
-Do you experience it the same way?
-Yeah. The last month in particular was…
1230
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,920
-The guy just came right up to me.
-Yes, but you mustn't do that.
1231
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,160
That's the Weekend. We don't talk to them.
1232
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,200
Can you just check? Whether he…
1233
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,560
Say that they should let us see it.
1234
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,920
Or just get rid of it.
We didn't actually want to talk with him.
1235
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:55,800
We once had an interview where
someone was taunting us with questions
1236
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,600
in the hopes we would snap.
I can't remember what it was,
1237
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,120
but it's always
about something very personal.
1238
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,880
While I'm there thinking,
we've written a new song.
1239
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,120
Maybe you should ask about that.
1240
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,480
-I should have walked away.
-I was looking for you.
1241
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,880
I was there thinking, "Should I, yes, no?"
1242
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,960
That was in the course of the questions.
1243
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,200
Suzan, hello.
1244
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,600
I think there is
always a certain line between…
1245
01:09:21,480 --> 01:09:24,920
who we are as artists
and what is truly private, for us alone.
1246
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,720
And I think that's something
1247
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,080
we have to think hard about
to keep things chill for us.
1248
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,920
This might be a heavy question
to ask right at the start,
1249
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,720
but do you guys have a type of wildcard?
1250
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,640
In case you want
to dance with someone else or…
1251
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:44,600
Separately.
1252
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,600
-What a strange question.
-A wildcard.
1253
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,200
We have an open relationship… no.
1254
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,040
-No, we don't have a wildcard.
-No.
1255
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,400
In my head, I'm kind of thinking
1256
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:59,920
that I want to tell 100% Nederland,
1257
01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:03,720
"Cut out that bit about the wildcard."
Because I…
1258
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,120
What's private needs to remain private.
1259
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,560
That's the last piece of us
that we still own.
1260
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:11,760
Here, your pass.
1261
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:12,920
-Thank you.
-Great.
1262
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,000
I think we're saying
that the story about the wildcard--
1263
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,080
That can be taken out.
Then he'll understand.
1264
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,040
-Is that okay?
-Yes, I want…
1265
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,640
We've become entertainers.
And we're also still just people.
1266
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,920
Sometimes you notice…
You wouldn't ask your friends that.
1267
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,920
It's not very respectful, actually.
1268
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,200
What do you think?
The question is awkward.
1269
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,520
-Maybe you shouldn't ask it then.
-Exactly.
1270
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,000
It goes far, I think.
1271
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,880
What they do with people, they…
1272
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,400
But that applies to everyone.
Everyone is under the microscope.
1273
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:45,560
If anything happens here in the village,
1274
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,320
then everyone talks about it for a week.
1275
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,920
And the following week,
they talk about something else.
1276
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,440
But in the world of fame,
it's really hard right now, I think.
1277
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,400
And sometimes it's nothing
but it gets so widely reported.
1278
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:01,120
That doesn't make you happy.
But it's independent of them.
1279
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,040
It's the case for everyone.
I don't like it.
1280
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,920
I hear some people ask,
1281
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,400
"Isn't it hard
working with your partner all day
1282
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:11,920
and seeing them in private?"
1283
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:14,560
Well, we had a farm, so…
1284
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:15,720
It isn't hard.
1285
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,160
If you're with someone
you like being around
1286
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,400
and who you work well with,
1287
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:24,440
it's not annoying at all.
1288
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,600
We've never found it annoying,
and we don't see that in them either.
1289
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,680
It's crazy that people
are interested in the first place.
1290
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,680
LOOSDRECHT LAKES
AUGUST 2022
1291
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,360
I'll have an Aperol. Bang!
1292
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:42,680
But we have…
1293
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,760
I have four glasses.
1294
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,800
I wanted to bring truffle. Suus said no.
1295
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,360
There's beer. But no…
1296
01:11:48,440 --> 01:11:49,440
Here's another one.
1297
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,920
No, that can't be.
1298
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:56,320
There's cork in it.
1299
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:57,560
-Cork.
-Cork.
1300
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,080
Well…
1301
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,560
At the beginning of this busy period,
it was hard
1302
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,600
because we saw each other less.
1303
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,640
And that was difficult.
1304
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,320
But I've noticed
1305
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,520
that a certain small club of people
formed around me
1306
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,600
that has become smaller over time
1307
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,200
and that I want to see more.
1308
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,560
I'm really very conventional. Yes.
1309
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,160
That's true. Yes.
1310
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,360
But it strikes me
that a lot of people are.
1311
01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:31,520
Then I think,
1312
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,160
how nice that we found each other,
because we get along well.
1313
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,040
I'm not one for full-on parties,
I don't stay up late often,
1314
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,200
I don't drink, don't do drugs.
I'm really quite boring.
1315
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,040
But I do like
doing nice things with my friends
1316
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,400
and having a good time
with people I care about.
1317
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,760
But, on the other hand, conventional…
1318
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,320
I do really great shows.
So what exactly is cool?
1319
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,920
Getting blind drunk on the weekend
1320
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,240
or playing a concert for 40,000 people?
So, yeah…
1321
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,840
Yes, maybe I am a bit conventional,
1322
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,880
but I find myself to be pretty cool
with what we do.
1323
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,600
I've noticed that spending time together
doesn't consume any energy.
1324
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,680
We're good at being together,
1325
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,800
sometimes without having to say anything.
1326
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,440
It lets us both recharge.
1327
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,120
And it isn't the case
that we view it as an activity,
1328
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,040
"Let's do something together now."
1329
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,400
We just enjoy being together
and that, yeah…
1330
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,680
I don't really think about it.
I just find…
1331
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,920
If I want to go cycling,
I'll say, "Want to come for a ride?"
1332
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,240
Then we'll go cycling together.
I prefer that to being alone.
1333
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,680
We could fill up our entire week.
Requests for TV things
1334
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,640
and interview for this,
we could appear in Belgium for this…
1335
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,480
But I said to Freek,
"I don't want to be so busy."
1336
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,360
I just don't want that.
I also want to have a nice life.
1337
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,480
Maybe kissed
1338
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,720
Fathers and mothers
1339
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,400
A little laughter too at everyone
1340
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:27,360
Now it feels exactly as it used to
1341
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:31,440
You and I
The world at my feet
1342
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,960
When I looked at you
1343
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,040
I suddenly became
1344
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,440
Someone from the past again
1345
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,440
-See you.
-Bye.
1346
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:43,840
-See you later.
-Have fun.
1347
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:44,960
-Bye.
-Later.
1348
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,440
-An hour…
-Yes, just that.
1349
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,240
-Accordion.
-Accordion.
1350
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,960
-Funny going to a show like this.
-Yeah, right?
1351
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,200
When do we do this now?
1352
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,480
I remember well that we…
1353
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,520
Just before corona, we were in the meadow.
1354
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,360
Kraantje Pappie was on the main stage.
1355
01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:06,320
-We said, "Great show."
-Yeah.
1356
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,680
Big stage,
with the big "Daddy" at the back.
1357
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,440
-I thought, "That guy's made it."
-Yeah.
1358
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:13,800
Well, let's go then.
1359
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:19,480
I think I'm still very keen
to make people happy.
1360
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,320
And I want people to like me
1361
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,080
and like what I do.
1362
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,000
So, maybe I,
1363
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:27,640
above all,
1364
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,320
should try a little harder to accept
1365
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,760
that there is a large group that like it.
1366
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,960
I should be happy with that.
We're successful in what we do.
1367
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,520
People come to our shows.
1368
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,080
And I try very much
to look at what we do have
1369
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,920
and the people who like it, instead of…
1370
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,960
the people who maybe don't like it
1371
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,920
and feel the need to say that or… Yeah.
1372
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,440
-Have fun.
-I still find it quite exciting.
1373
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,760
-Exciting, right?
-Suus.
1374
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,000
-I find it horribly scary.
-Exciting, huh?
1375
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,840
-Nice to have you here.
-Super cool.
1376
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,080
-Horribly scary.
-It will be all right.
1377
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,960
You can tell by looking at you,
you really are all…
1378
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,160
Just take a deep breath.
1379
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,320
-The first song, then you'll be okay.
-Yeah, that's right.
1380
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,480
Then I'll be back.
1381
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:10,800
It will be fine.
1382
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,880
You're wearing a gorgeous outfit.
1383
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:14,960
I'm glad you guys are here.
1384
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,360
-Good that you're all here.
-Good you're here, man.
1385
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,360
The Zwarte Cross
is the festival of The Achterhoek.
1386
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,600
Freek is never afraid to think big,
1387
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,040
although I don't think he ever dared dream
1388
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,200
that they would play
the main stage at Zwarte Cross.
1389
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:34,440
Get yourself together.
1390
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:37,440
Holy shit, man.
1391
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,960
Suus was literally 200 meters
from the main stage cooking fries.
1392
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,880
She never dared dream
that she would ever stand up there.
1393
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,560
They haven't been so big for long,
1394
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,880
but if I know them
1395
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,400
and they keep doing what they want,
1396
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,120
I think they'll keep going
for a long time.
1397
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,760
Until they're 80 or something.
1398
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:02,280
This is it, guys.
1399
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,960
Zwarte Cross, here…
1400
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:09,920
Suzan & Freek!
1401
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,520
Zwarte Cross, good afternoon!
1402
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,280
But weren't we gold?
1403
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,160
Tell me, what if I can never forget you?
1404
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,920
Now suddenly you're gone
1405
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,000
But it doesn't yet really feel
1406
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,640
As if I can do this
1407
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,960
Do you think it's easy, perhaps?
1408
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,640
You're haunting my thoughts
1409
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,640
Because I still believe in us
1410
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,040
But weren't we gold?
1411
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:56,080
Tell me, what if I can never forget you?
1412
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,320
What if I can never forget you?
1413
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,560
How great it is,
as someone from Achterhoek,
1414
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,120
to stand in front of so many people.
1415
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,400
You want to share this
with the people you hold dear.
1416
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,400
To see Suzan and Freek,
and all those people…
1417
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:18,760
Where are all my people
from The Achterhoek?
1418
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,040
Great, yeah? Nice.
1419
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:23,840
We also try
1420
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,160
to involve family and friends a bit more.
1421
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,200
That's maybe because
we found it more challenging before,
1422
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,720
and then you don't let other people in
1423
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:38,040
because you think, I'm busy enough
with making sure it's all good.
1424
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,000
Now we have the space and the control
1425
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:45,240
to let friends and family
literally stand next to us on stage
1426
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:46,520
and watch along.
1427
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,160
And I'm very happy with that.
1428
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,720
Then the two worlds blend together more.
1429
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,040
Zwarte Cross,
may I have your loudest applause
1430
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,800
for none other than Snelle!
1431
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,520
This is such a moment of realization
for all three of us
1432
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,760
that we're up here in front of you
today at the Zwarte Cross.
1433
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,480
The best festival of the year.
1434
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,160
The fields are packed full everywhere.
1435
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,480
It's a 60-minute set,
1436
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,960
and there's only one song
where you might not know a few lines.
1437
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,920
For the rest, everyone sings along,
because they're the biggest right now.
1438
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,560
It's quiet here on the other side
1439
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,440
But I come from here
1440
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,680
Where your bike can be left
1441
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,560
By the roadside unlocked
1442
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,880
It's quiet here on the other side…
1443
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,200
You can be louder.
1444
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,080
As out of tune as you can.
1445
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,440
It's quiet here on the other side…
1446
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,400
-More off-key and louder.
-Come on.
1447
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,440
It's quiet here on the other side…
1448
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,720
-We're almost there.
-Yeah!
1449
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,720
It's quiet here on the other side…
1450
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,720
Zwarte Cross, let me hear you!
1451
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,520
It's quiet here on the other side
1452
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,120
But I come from here
1453
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,680
Where your bike can be left
1454
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,520
By the roadside unlocked
1455
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:19,720
I think that we did dream of it, yes.
1456
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,720
I never thought that we would do this.
1457
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,520
I always thought
I had to do something really special.
1458
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,040
And I'm simply doing the same as always,
1459
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,200
and suddenly I can live
from the music alone.
1460
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,920
Yes, I'm happy
with where we are now and who we are.
1461
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,560
We belong there now.
1462
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,640
Before, I thought
we were simply visitors, you know?
1463
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,360
As if everyone had made a mistake.
1464
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:48,320
They didn't realize
that we were standing among them.
1465
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:54,120
Now, after corona,
I feel more like we belong there.
1466
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,520
That it suddenly got so big,
1467
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:01,320
I had never thought about it.
And I think it's really great.
1468
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,480
Zwarte Crossers!
1469
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,200
We love you!
1470
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,760
WITH SPECIAL THANKS TO
SUZAN & FREEK
1471
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,920
I look around me
1472
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,000
And see the same street
1473
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,520
But it suddenly feels as if
1474
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,920
There is a new light here
1475
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,840
For all my life
1476
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,920
I passed it by
1477
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,280
But what I never saw
1478
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,400
You now release in me
1479
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,800
That it can be so beautiful here
1480
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,480
Do you feel the light…
1481
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,320
And it has become our work,
but in this room it feels
1482
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,440
as if we're still
doing it for fun, which is true.
1483
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,240
I've never told Suzan
that we earn money from it.
1484
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,640
-Keep it that way.
-Yeah.
1485
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,560
Last week you were
wearing a body warmer, what was that?
1486
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,200
Was that a statement or something?
What was it?
1487
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,200
I thought, that can't be true.
1488
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,520
Why did you do that? Now you mention it.
1489
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,280
-What was that?
-You can do that. It's hip.
1490
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,880
-Is it really hip?
-Yes, it's hip.
1491
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,560
I sometimes lag behind,
but I thought, Freek!
1492
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,960
-Is it really hip?
-Yes, it's really hip.
1493
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:18,920
Yes?
1494
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,520
Also, the shoes with those narrow trousers
1495
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:29,400
and that large jacket. I thought, why?
1496
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,640
Why is everyone
wearing such a large jacket?
1497
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,320
-If you like it, you should do it.
-No, but yes. Okay.
1498
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,840
A little tent, or not?
1499
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,000
-Cheers, guys.
-Yeah, guys.
1500
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,760
There's a fly near you all the time.
1501
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,840
-Did you wash?
-Wash?
1502
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:53,360
Dung fly.
1503
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,640
But it is real
1504
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,360
Since you are here
1505
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:05,600
I see everything differently
To how I know it
1506
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,000
Hope that it never goes
1507
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,000
Because we dream in color
1508
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,680
Everything seems
1509
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:29,400
More beautiful, now I'm looking
1510
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,520
With you
1511
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,880
Can you feel the light?
1512
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,960
Can you taste the mist?
1513
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:43,520
Easy to say that it's unreal
1514
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,880
-Can you feel the light?
-Can you feel the light?
1515
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,560
-Can you taste the mist?
-Can you taste the mist?
1516
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,320
-Since you are here
-Since you are here
1517
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,920
Hope that it never goes
1518
01:23:57,440 --> 01:24:00,360
Because we dream in color
1519
01:24:00,440 --> 01:24:02,480
Subtitle translation by: Adam Dean