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[waves crashing on beach]

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[Freek] <i>Contrast.</i>

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<i>That we went</i>
<i>from two years of corona standstill</i>

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<i>suddenly to this.</i>

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[Suzan]<i> Yeah.</i>

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[Freek]<i> Which made it</i>
<i>almost too much at times.</i>

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<i>But now when I think back in retrospect,</i>
<i>it really was crazy.</i>

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Beautiful, isn't it?

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SANTA BARBARA
UNITED STATES, SEPTEMBER 2022

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To us, it feels short, but secretly,
we've been playing for a long time.

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The first ten years,
we weren't really Suzan & Freek, but…

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-It was there though. [laughs]
-Yeah.

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Suus studied in Delft.

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I went to Delft a few times a week.
I had my guitar with me and a camera.

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That's where
we started recording "The Minutes."

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[pensive music continues]

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When we'd play till five in the morning,
we had to pack up ourselves.

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I think the best way to keep going
is to stay true to yourself

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because it's easy
to get dragged into all the fuss.

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If a lot of people say you're fantastic,

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you also believe you're fantastic.

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Luckily, we have each other
to share it a bit.

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I want to maintain my boundaries
and be okay with myself.

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I still want to identify
with my friends and those around me.

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So that I don't…

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I want to stay the same.

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-And I'm grateful for you.
-[Freek] Yeah?

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-We did it well together, didn't we?
-Yes, we did.

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You often say, "I really like
being Suzan from Suzan & Freek."

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I say it a lot.

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And I really like
being Freek from Suzan & Freek.

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That's what I'm most grateful for.

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-That we could do it together.
-Yes, me too.

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I think it's great too.

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[both laughing]

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[printer whirring]

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[dramatic music playing]

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[announcer]<i> Ladies and gentlemen,</i>
<i>boys and girls, Suzan & Freek!</i>

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[crowd cheering]

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Right now, I think Suzan & Freek
are the biggest act in the Netherlands.

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[Suzan]<i> It seemed</i>
<i>like all the special things</i>

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<i>you can experience as an artist</i>
<i>were all planned in one month.</i>

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[Freek]<i> I just want</i>
<i>what's private to remain private.</i>

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<i>That's the last piece of us</i>
<i>that still belongs to us.</i>

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[dramatic music continues]

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[Suzan] <i>We've become entertainers.</i>

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[woman] It's remarkable that they're
two down-to-earth people from Achterhoek

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who have gained national fame.

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Proud.

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Yes, I think we did dream of this.

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[dramatic music intensifies]

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[crowd cheering]

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SUZAN & FREEK:
BETWEEN YOU & ME

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-[static crackles]
-[VCR whirring]

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[static crackles]

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BERLIN
JULY 2022

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[Freek]<i> We're in Berlin,</i>
<i>and on this square,</i>

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<i>I asked a very special question.</i>

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<i>And what did she say?</i>

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[Freek] <i>Yes!</i>

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<i>-We're getting married.</i>
<i>-Yes.</i>

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[Freek] <i>Apart from our family,</i>
<i>no one knows.</i>

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<i>No.</i>

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[Freek] <i>We'll tell everyone soon.</i>

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[both chuckle]

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THE ACHTERHOEK
ZWARTE CROSS PRE-PARTY WITH SUZAN & FREEK

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[calm music playing]

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FAMILY AND FRIENDS

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-Hey, brother. All good?
-Yo.

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-Sure.
-Yeah, good race?

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I think the party is great,
but I hope everyone likes it.

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-Hey, Mother.
-Did you finish?

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-Yes, of course. Tomorrow--
-A hair.

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[man 1] Rik and Rob
weren't allowed to drive.

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[man 2] Blood alcohol too high.

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-We're watching it.
-Isn't it crazy here?

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Yes, it's crazy here,
because I still feel like the old Suzan.

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It's a bit stressful with all the people.

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Then I have to get on that stage.
I think it's more stressful here.

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-Things converge here.
-Yes.

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[indistinct chattering]

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-[woman] When did it happen?
-[Suzan] In Berlin. Nice, right? [laughs]

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I was totally surprised.

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[all laughing]

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[Suzan] We were in Berlin
on Monday morning.

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He said, "What a coincidence,
Coldplay is playing."

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"The first concert we went to together."

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-That's our style of music.
-[woman] I'm getting goosebumps.

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[Suzan] He said, "Oh, what a shame.
Or maybe it's not a coincidence."

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"I've got great VIP tickets.
The best seats."

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"To celebrate love with you,
we're going tonight." Sweet, right?

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-Shall we start?
-All good.

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-Do it?
-Yes, it's good.

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-Do you dare? I don't.
-Yeah.

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-Will you do the directing?
-No.

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You have to say it.
You have to talk loudly.

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You can do it.

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[whistling]

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-Speech.
-No.

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Little speech.

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Hello, everyone.

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This is uncomfortable,
but we're going to do it anyway.

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At least say hi to everyone. [laughs]

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Great that you're all here
at our Zwarte Cross pre-party.

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Um, since we probably won't see you
at the festival later,

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we thought we'd have a little party here.

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And also a little pre-party
for something else

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because I got down on one knee
in Berlin for Suus.

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[all cheering]

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[Suzan and Freek laughing]

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How great.

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[overlapping chatter]

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Congratulations.

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[overlapping chatter continues]

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["Als Het Avond Is"
by Suzan & Freek playing]

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[Suzan] "Don't you get fed up
with each other?"

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"Which one wears the trousers?"

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"Do you ever argue? Oh, what about?"

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They always ask which characteristics

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of Suus or mine the other doesn't like.

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To which I still
need to find the perfect answer,

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but it always comes down to,
"No, we really like it…"

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It's always the same question.

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SIX MONTHS EARLIER
START OF THE CLUB TOUR

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[Suzan] ♪ <i>Then I miss the time</i>
<i>When I could be angry with you ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Now it's silent ♪</i>

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AT HOME
SUZAN & FREEK

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<i>♪ Your hand in mine</i>
<i>Or is this too little to carry on</i>?<i> ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I just don't know how ♪</i>

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<i>♪ With everything I do ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I can't bear it when the evening comes ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Oh, because in the evening</i>
<i>I miss you often… ♪</i>

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[Suzan] I think it was
very strange for everyone

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because we'd just gone through corona.

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We sat at home for two years,
then suddenly we could restart.

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We went from zero to a hundred.
Suddenly our schedule was totally full.

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So much happened that this…

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I feel we have now come so much further.

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[man] It all went fairly organically.

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There was no great plan
for what to do next.

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And the popularity grew.

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The shows became bigger.

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And then came corona.

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Suzan and Freek
kept doing their own thing.

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But what no one realized

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was that once corona was over, uh,

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they had gotten so big.

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Actually we knew it,
but we didn't feel it.

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We didn't. They didn't either.

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<i>♪ I've already thought a hundred times ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I'll call you tonight ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Tonight ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I'll tell you I still think of you ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Waited a hundred times ♪</i>

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<i>♪ But I'll call you tonight ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Tonight ♪</i>

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[man 1 speaks indistinctly]

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[Freek] Have you already played this?

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-[man 1] No.
-[Freek] Okay.

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Just the intro as usual.

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And then I say "okay" again.

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Then you tap him in.

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We'll have to see if that goes smoothly.

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And then we play it all the way to…

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From the bridge, from the sing-along bit.

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And at some point
we start counting out. Then we know it.

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[Suzan] That's too complicated, Freek.

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It's nice, though.
It doesn't matter, does it?

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[Suzan] You'd best get it right tomorrow.
Keep it like it was.

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Yes, Freek. It sounds better.

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Try to do it one bar earlier.
Give it a try.

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But tomorrow we'll do it differently.
Why are we doing this?

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[man 1] One, two, one, two…

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Yeah.

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-Let's try it once.
-Okay, one more time.

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[man 2] I think Suzan
has a keen eye for detail

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and wants to be sure
what their product is.

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[man 3] They are both like that.

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THE BAND

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Freek too. But he's also
a bit of a rocker, so to speak.

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-[man 3] Yeah.
-[man 2] He has done something.

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He wants it to be really great
and assert his own view.

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[man 4] And it's funny
that Suus will then say,

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"We need to move on now.
We've only got five more minutes."

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And that really is the case.

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But you can see Freek thinking…

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[laughs] …"I don't want that.
I just want to figure this out now."

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So that's the conflict.

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But I actually think
they have a good balance.

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[man 3] Yeah, me too.

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They're the perfect couple
you could follow all day on Instagram

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without getting tired of them.

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Because they're not acting.
They're genuine.

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[man 4] They don't act any differently
from how we know them.

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[Suzan] I like trying out the ideas,
but at some point--

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[Freek] That's what
the sound check is for. As for the rest…

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We don't have rehearsals with the band.
We have nothing.

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That's the time for it. Let's use it.

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[Suzan] That's true too.
But let's change it first.

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Let's try again tomorrow.
We have another show.

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[Freek] I spent hours on it this morning.

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[Suzan] We're doing it then?

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[Freek] After five minutes,
"Let's leave it."

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-Yeah, then I'm going to look into it.
-[Suzan] Doesn't have to be all at once.

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-[Freek] Okay.
-[Suzan] I'm not going to do it.

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Let's not forget that we're a team.

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[Freek] Yeah, of course.

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Hey.

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-Hello.
-Hey. Hello.

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[Freek] When you get bigger,
a lot of things come into play.

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It becomes more
about other things and less about music.

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[reporter] I have one more question
about <i>Farmer Wants a Wife</i>.

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And that's why I want to do things myself.

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Because that only has to do
with making music, so to speak.

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And… I miss that sometimes
because everything gets bigger,

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and music becomes
a smaller percentage of what you're doing.

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-Yes.
-[Suzan] Yeah, it's the last show.

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-Who's got a yell?
-[man 1] Who has a yell?

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[man 2] Uh…

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-[Suzan] Well, super, guys.
-[band] Yeah. Hey!

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[Freek] Maybe it's also
a case of letting go.

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But we used to do
everything as a pair, so…

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And that is a bit…

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At some point, someone else has to do it.

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But I try to hold on as long as possible

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because for me,
it's very much about making music,

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and why I started making music
and why I really like playing in a band

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and being very much on top
of everything that happens.

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[crowd cheering]

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The two of us always played covers,
and we decided where it went.

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It would be crazy to play with a band now
and let all that go.

235
00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,640
["Spiegelbeeld" by Suzan & Freek playing]

236
00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,920
<i>♪ Even more beautiful than I imagine ♪</i>

237
00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,440
<i>♪ Even more beautiful</i>
<i>Than your reflection… ♪</i>

238
00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,760
[Freek] As an artist, I'm not insecure

239
00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,280
because I'm happy with what we do
and I'm proud of what we do.

240
00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,560
As a singer still, sometimes…

241
00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,360
because I think
Suus sings much better than me.

242
00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,360
And I see myself…
always saw myself more as a guitarist

243
00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,480
who also sang a bit.

244
00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:58,400
And now it's the opposite.
I often don't have a guitar

245
00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,960
but just stand and sing on stage.

246
00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,640
I still often hear a little voice,

247
00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,440
"I'm actually a guitarist
who doesn't have his guitar with him."

248
00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,480
[crowd cheering]

249
00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:11,560
[Freek] Thank you.

250
00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,200
[calm music playing]

251
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,880
[indistinct chattering]

252
00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,280
[cheering]

253
00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,400
When I move on stage wearing heels,

254
00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,640
I do this. With my heels on.

255
00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,800
So I don't move.

256
00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,600
I'm much more masculine or tougher.

257
00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:34,560
And then it doesn't fit together.

258
00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,920
And Freek is just really handsome.

259
00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,280
He just has the face of a model.

260
00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,640
And I have a somewhat

261
00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,280
more characteristic face.

262
00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,800
I'm not totally dissatisfied at all
but not super satisfied either.

263
00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,560
If I look nice, I think, yes that's good.

264
00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,320
But if it's a bad angle or something,
I really think…

265
00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,440
Then I can really…
You can really detest yourself.

266
00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,520
So…

267
00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,520
Yeah, I do find it difficult sometimes.

268
00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,920
I don't want
to make a big issue out of it.

269
00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:09,720
I'm rummaging in my purse
with all my drugstore makeup.

270
00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,760
[chuckles]

271
00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,160
[sighs]

272
00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,240
When streaming, it's with other women.

273
00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,200
But now I'm alone with Freek,
and I don't have a real comparison.

274
00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,880
But when I'm with other women,
I often have…

275
00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,760
Then they have their own makeup artists,

276
00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,360
and they sit for hours.

277
00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,040
They look super. More and more beautiful.

278
00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,640
Then I think a bit,

279
00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,480
we have a half hour.
I think I'll see the makeup artist.

280
00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:33,720
Like with the men, I just sit down.

281
00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,840
Then I think, should I do more?

282
00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,600
Then you doubt yourself.
Is this a good choice?

283
00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:40,360
Because you stand alongside them.

284
00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,880
But… yeah.

285
00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,160
I'm still a bit lost.

286
00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,560
Until now, I've just…
always done it this way.

287
00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:50,920
[video call chimes]

288
00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,440
-Hi there.
-[woman]<i> Hello.</i>

289
00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,320
I'm covered in sequins. [chuckles]

290
00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,440
I slept really poorly last night,
maybe just a little… stress, I guess.

291
00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,800
TAMAR NIAMUT
SINGING COACH

292
00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,640
I felt like it was my stomach,
like you said.

293
00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,040
And I ate fruit
and had a good lunch today,

294
00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,560
and now I haven't had dinner,
just a banana.

295
00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,440
I'll eat right after the show,
to keep my stomach calm.

296
00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,880
Because I've noticed
I'm coughing much less now.

297
00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,920
-[Tamar]<i> Oh, yes. You see? That's good.</i>
-Yeah.

298
00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,200
[Tamar continues speaking indistinctly]

299
00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,760
[Suzan] When we were allowed
to perform again,

300
00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,320
I got sick after a few shows.

301
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,600
I got a kind of laryngitis,
and… I got everything at once.

302
00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,880
It really scared me.
"What have I got? How long will it last?"

303
00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,720
I was suffering so much
that I even had to cancel some shows.

304
00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,080
I found that terrible.

305
00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,640
[Tamar]<i> Try not to breathe in too much.</i>
<i>Especially where your hand is.</i>

306
00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,480
<i>That's it.</i>

307
00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,160
It does vibrate a bit,
so you might feel a tickle

308
00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,360
but not so bad
that I actually have to cough.

309
00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,120
[Freek] She's a real perfectionist.
If she finds she can't do something well,

310
00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,800
she works on it
and makes sure that it's good.

311
00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,120
But with your body,
you can't take care of it yourself.

312
00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,600
You need to take time to get better.
But she's very hard on herself.

313
00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,280
She already found it hard
to sing at 80% for an evening

314
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,280
because she always gives 110%.

315
00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,800
[Suzan] So that really caused me
a lot of stress.

316
00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,880
You suddenly think,
wow, we're all here together,

317
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,120
but we're dependent
on my voice and Freek's voice.

318
00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,840
Because, however unpleasant,
you can replace a band member,

319
00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,480
but if Freek goes on stage
with someone else,

320
00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,640
I don't know if people would accept that.

321
00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,080
-[laughing]
-[indistinct chattering]

322
00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,400
[Suzan] I felt some pressure.

323
00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,400
<i>♪ All my life… ♪</i>

324
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,960
-It feels okay.
-Good.

325
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,440
-Just precarious.
-[Freek] It's all there, right?

326
00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,400
I just feel a bit… It will be fine.

327
00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,840
And just cast off
the consonants quickly, as Tamara says.

328
00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,000
-Or just hold out the mic. Your turn!
-Now your turn.

329
00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,720
And if you make it
to a song where you think…

330
00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,400
Got it.

331
00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,880
It's tense when you've been sick,
but… you've got it.

332
00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:01,960
[man] Very precise.

333
00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,160
If she was working on something,
it had to be--

334
00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,360
-[woman 1] Good.
-[man] Good, yes.

335
00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,080
She was busy a lot with music back then.

336
00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,240
INEKE & HUUB
SUZAN'S PARENTS

337
00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,320
Small piano, large piano.

338
00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,320
Always busy with music.

339
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,120
[calm music playing]

340
00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:21,840
You got this, Suusje.

341
00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,880
-Huh? Good luck.
-Good luck.

342
00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:25,960
It will be fine.

343
00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,200
-It'll be fine, yeah?
-Yeah.

344
00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,200
[all laughing]

345
00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,640
Keep in mind, the audience is up close.

346
00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,240
-Yeah.
-So you don't get a shock.

347
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,120
[woman 2] Whatever he did,
everything had to be possible.

348
00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,480
You could say in advance,
"You can't do that."

349
00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:41,560
BRIGIT
FREEK'S MOTHER

350
00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,200
Well, he thought it could be done
and did it his own way.

351
00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,760
He also didn't care
what he used to make music.

352
00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,320
A tiny guitar, ukulele,

353
00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,240
even on a tennis racket,
it didn't matter what.

354
00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,080
He made the show himself.

355
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,520
[crowd cheering]

356
00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,120
[Brigit] When I see him performing now,

357
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,680
I think, Freek, delightful.
You're still that toddler at heart.

358
00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,960
Just now you're on a different stage.

359
00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,560
But really you're still just
that kid from 15 years ago, so yeah.

360
00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,640
<i>♪ Asked for an opinion ♪</i>

361
00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,640
<i>♪ I'm no longer myself</i>
<i>And that already feels strange ♪</i>

362
00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,960
<i>♪ Normally everything passes me by ♪</i>

363
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,440
<i>♪ But not today</i>
<i>This one's for me ♪</i>

364
00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,480
<i>♪ This one's for me ♪</i>

365
00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,080
<i>♪ This one's for me ♪</i>

366
00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,280
<i>♪ This one's for me ♪</i>

367
00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,640
<i>♪ This one's for me ♪</i>

368
00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,680
<i>♪ This one's for me ♪</i>

369
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,280
Everyone in Arnhem, thank you!

370
00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:51,080
[crowd cheering]

371
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,640
[drums soloing]

372
00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,280
[Freek] Voilà. Whoo!

373
00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:03,200
-Oh, man.
-Hey.

374
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,480
Oh!

375
00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,560
I'm glad I survived it.

376
00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:10,960
-[woman 1] You did it.
-So good, man.

377
00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,520
-I'm happy with it.
-[woman 1] Well done.

378
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,680
My voice is better too, thankfully.

379
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,680
It was good, man.

380
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,800
It went well. Good that you jumped in.

381
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,040
If I just stay quiet, I don't cough.

382
00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:24,840
I'm so happy. Really well done.

383
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,080
It was good.
If you haven't played for a week

384
00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,160
and then it's suddenly full force…

385
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,520
-[Suzan] Yeah.
-Well done. Are you happy?

386
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,200
-Very happy.
-[Freek] Relieved?

387
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,680
Yes, it's a relief.

388
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,440
[woman 2] Freek was the first real

389
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,560
serious relationship
where she was really in love.

390
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,520
I think Freek was 14 and Suzan 15…

391
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,840
ANNE
SUZAN'S SISTER

392
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,720
…so they've been together for a long time.

393
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,720
[calm music playing]

394
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,920
She was always busy with him.

395
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,560
At our middle school,
we always had school concerts,

396
00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,920
and the years were a bit mixed.

397
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,080
[playing slow ballad]

398
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,800
[playing rock music]

399
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,600
And then things
kind of developed between them.

400
00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,560
[calm music playing]

401
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,160
[Brigit] That was a love of…

402
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,040
Then, one afternoon,
he was at Suzan's, trampolining,

403
00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:27,560
and he came home and said,
"We broke up. We saw each other too much."

404
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,920
Well, then the courtship
was over. [laughing]

405
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,320
[calm music continues]

406
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,280
Afterwards, Suus would always say,
"I really miss Freek."

407
00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:37,960
She was on MSN the whole time.

408
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,560
SANNE & PIEN
SUZAN'S FRIENDS

409
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,400
-She was online the whole time.
-Yeah. [laughs]

410
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,360
-So that Freek… Well, it worked.
-Yeah.

411
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,760
It didn't take long,
then Freek was like, "Hmm."

412
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,080
[calm music continues]

413
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,640
[man] Freek was a showman.

414
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,520
If I walked into a bar behind him,
all the women's heads would turn…

415
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,000
JOSH
FREEK'S FRIEND

416
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,840
…and you're there thinking,
"They're all looking at Freek."

417
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,360
I think Freek is the party animal

418
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,640
and Suzan is more serious.

419
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,560
And it works well.
That Freek is occasionally pulled along,

420
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,600
"You're not staying out until three, four.
Come home with me."

421
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,280
And at one point,
I came downstairs on Sunday evening.

422
00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:19,440
Jesse was on the couch, and I said,
"Freek's forgotten his sweater."

423
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,480
And Jesse said, "If he forgot his sweater,

424
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,320
he's forgotten his shoes too."

425
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,240
[laughs] Yeah.

426
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,880
And so my dad went straight upstairs,
and they were lying there together.

427
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,440
In the bottom
of the bunk bed, I think. [laughs]

428
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,920
For us, it was a sign
that this is going… This is serious.

429
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,640
[calm music continues]

430
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,920
[birds chirping]

431
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,320
-[stove beeps]
-[Freek whistling]

432
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,800
AT HOME
SUZAN & FREEK

433
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,760
[Suzan] We spend a lot of time together.

434
00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,160
People often ask
if we drive each other crazy,

435
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,560
but I don't think so.

436
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,960
I can spend every day with Freek.
It's all good.

437
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,400
I know him inside and out.

438
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,800
He knows when to keep his mouth shut
or when he can chat with me.

439
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,400
-Almost 3,000 tickets already sold.
-[Freek] Great.

440
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,200
In three hours?

441
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,640
-Pretty relaxed.
-[Freek] "Pretty relaxed"? Totally insane.

442
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,520
If this sells out quickly,
then there's that on top.

443
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,560
[Suzan] And if not?

444
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,680
-Then not.
-Okay.

445
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,560
Then you have a theater tour of 47 shows.

446
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,160
[calm music playing]

447
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,680
[Suzan] I'm very organized,
but I can only… My schedule is full.

448
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,760
This is it. I know exactly…
we don't need to add more.

449
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,560
And Freek can take on three other jobs.
He can handle that.

450
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,960
He never gets stressed, no.

451
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,200
[calm music continues]

452
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,400
I'm a very responsible person.

453
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,160
I need to sleep well, eat a bit well,

454
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,400
have a bit of structure in my life,

455
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,280
then I have self-confidence,
then I feel good.

456
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000
And with Freek there,
I don't have to do anything alone.

457
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,200
Freek and I together,
that's nice. [laughs]

458
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,960
[playing melody on guitar]

459
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,480
[Freek] I find
that I need structure above all.

460
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,480
If I sit on the couch, it doesn't work out

461
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,160
because I get into
a kind of miserable state.

462
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,120
I'm waiting
until I can do something again.

463
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,200
I always think I'm quite relaxed,

464
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,240
but sometimes I realize,
maybe if you just keep doing things,

465
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,320
it doesn't necessarily make you relaxed.

466
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,160
But for me, it is also a way

467
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,320
to keep a bit of space free in my head.

468
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,600
PREPARATION FOR ZIGGO DOME SHOWS
AMSTERDAM, FEBRUARY 2022

469
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,280
-[Freek laughs] So sick.
-[Suzan laughs] Yeah.

470
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,200
[Freek] Really funny.

471
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,360
-[Suzan] Fucking huge, hey?
-[Freek] Yeah.

472
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,400
[camera clicks]

473
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,840
-Where do we go?
-Here, I think.

474
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,920
I think here too. There's a door.

475
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,080
-[Freek] Hey.
-[Suzan] Hello.

476
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,320
Should we ask?
It looks like a loading dock?

477
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,920
-[Freek] No, here's the hall.
-Oh, we're there!

478
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,560
[Freek and Suzan exclaim]

479
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,080
[Freek] Totally sick, right?

480
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,560
Jesus Christ.

481
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,680
The second section too, that's really…

482
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,960
-It's far away.
-You don't want to be queasy.

483
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,200
You can't imagine
that it will all be full soon.

484
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,400
-Well…
-You can?

485
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,640
[video call chimes]

486
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,760
Hi, Mom.

487
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,600
-[Ineke]<i> Hi.</i>
-Look where I am.

488
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,400
<i>No amount of money</i>
<i>could get me on that stage.</i>

489
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,680
[Freek and Suzan laughing]

490
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,120
-[Suzan] I don't doubt it.
<i>-Won't you just die?</i>

491
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,320
-[Suzan] And here's the stage.
-[Ineke]<i> Terrible.</i>

492
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,600
[Suzan] And there's the center stage.
That's funny too.

493
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,120
[Ineke] <i>And where do we stand? Below?</i>

494
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,520
[Suzan] Between the first
and second sections.

495
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,240
There's the section
where you can invite people along.

496
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,480
-And you'll be over there.
-[Ineke]<i> Where the lights are?</i>

497
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,240
[Suzan] Yes, by the lights.
By the round ones.

498
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,680
[Ineke] <i>Really.</i>

499
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,040
And that's the VIP section
where we always were.

500
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,000
[Ineke] <i>That's where</i>
<i>you always performed, right?</i>

501
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,080
Yes, that in-between bit back there.

502
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,800
[Ineke] <i>That's your little tent.</i>

503
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,640
That's our tent. Yes, right.

504
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,720
It got out of control.

505
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,640
[Ineke] Some people go cycling
or sit in a bar.

506
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,400
-Freek and Suzan made music together.
-[Huub] Yes.

507
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,080
And did a lot of performances.
In bars too.

508
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,000
-Until late at night.
-A side-job, at the same time.

509
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,320
-It was kind of--
-They worked hard.

510
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,160
-[playing "Three Little Birds"]
-♪ <i>Baby, don't worry 'bout a thing</i> ♪

511
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:38,920
♪ <i>This is our message to you</i> ♪

512
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,040
[Brigit] Freek had a guitar,
and Suzan had that keyboard,

513
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:44,960
and Wout helped with the sound.

514
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,240
Suzan herself once said,

515
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,120
"If I know Wout is there,
I can perform well."

516
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,560
So Wout was
very important in their lives. [laughs]

517
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,840
I much preferred
being active behind the scenes.

518
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,880
WOUT
FREEK'S BROTHER

519
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,440
Freek just enjoyed making music.

520
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,520
We'd often tinker together
to make a pedalboard for a guitar,

521
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,480
or he would buy something online…

522
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,280
He didn't have a driver's license,
so I had to go along

523
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:09,920
or drive him over to Suzan.

524
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,920
Yeah, that was a really good time.

525
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,200
Because everything we experienced together

526
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,880
he then used to further himself.

527
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,160
[calm music playing]

528
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,680
-I'm curious to see if it's the same.
-[Freek] Yeah.

529
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,040
-[Suzan] The corner here.
-[Freek] Yeah.

530
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:27,400
They've got new screens.

531
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,160
-Member lounge.
-[Suzan] Oh, yeah.

532
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,640
This is where we were. These tables
weren't there, and we stood here.

533
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,080
-Yeah.
-And people sat here eating.

534
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,840
And that's where the food was served.

535
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,600
We would see it coming over.

536
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,960
That was always funny
because usually you're timing it a bit.

537
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,000
You work toward the last song in the set.

538
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,640
To a kind of encore.

539
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,920
That never came.

540
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,840
And here you'd be playing,
and someone would come in,

541
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,880
"The concert is starting."
And everyone would get up.

542
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,280
And we were like, "Have fun!"

543
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,600
-Exactly. "The end."
-Yeah. "Ta-da!"

544
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,520
Here are some more performances
in the Ziggo Dome.

545
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,600
So we were here. That was over there.

546
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,400
-[Suzan] You always had a tie on.
-[Freek] Always a white shirt with a tie.

547
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,680
If someone needed a waiter,
I was always ready to help.

548
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,000
-[Suzan laughs]
-Here, that was there.

549
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,520
-Yeah.
-How funny.

550
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,560
2014. So that's… eight years ago.

551
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,200
Seven-and-a-half years ago.

552
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,520
♪<i> I know you're gone, I know you're gone </i>♪

553
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,320
♪<i> But I don't… </i>♪

554
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,120
[Wout] When they started recording
"The Minutes" for Facebook,

555
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,280
and they brought out
a new number every week,

556
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,400
they needed a name.

557
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,400
Then they set up a Facebook page
as "Suzan & Freek." That's who they were.

558
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,800
So they didn't think of a real name.

559
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Only when they started performing
as Suzan & Freek

560
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,040
did the name really become their name
because then we could no longer change it.

561
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,640
<i>♪ Like you sang to me… ♪</i>

562
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,720
[Brigit] I thought this time
was really nice. Freek lived in Tilburg,

563
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,400
and Suzan lived in Delft.

564
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,640
They had their own lives, the two of them.

565
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,920
Then they had "The Minute,"
and on weekends they traveled

566
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000
to Achterhoek together, if possible,
or separately,

567
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,320
because "The Minute" had to be recorded.

568
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,320
Then it was released
on Friday evening at 6:30.

569
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,760
That was the best time, Freek said,
to put something on Facebook.

570
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,480
…positioned like that? It's a bit uneven.

571
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,680
[clattering]

572
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,320
That bungling around
eventually helped them move forward.

573
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,040
-Ladies.
-And gentlemen.

574
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,120
-Give yourself a clap.
-Because we have…

575
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,320
Twenty thousand likes!

576
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,680
[horns blowing]

577
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,800
[confetti pops]

578
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,960
[crowd cheering]

579
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,920
[Suzan laughs]

580
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,240
[confetti pop echoes]

581
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,680
GRAVELAND STUDIO
KORTENHOEF, JANUARY 2022

582
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,000
SUZAN & FREEK
GOLD

583
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,360
[calm music playing]

584
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,240
Does it hang like that?

585
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,600
[man] The advantage is
that you're also the artist.

586
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,880
Yes, great.

587
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,360
[Suzan vocalizing]

588
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,880
-A bit more there.
-I agree. Okay.

589
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,800
I think the start and end are great,
but that middle section… [vocalizes]

590
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,960
-[man] Yes, much less.
-Do you feel as if…

591
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,840
-It's not connected.
-[man] Just do…

592
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,120
It needs to be simpler.
I'm hearing that now.

593
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,800
The first time I heard of Suzan & Freek,

594
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,640
we had sort of agreed to be in the studio

595
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,240
and get a cup of coffee.

596
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,080
Usually if I'm asked,

597
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,600
I would check, "What do they do?"

598
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,360
Or say, "Send me something."

599
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,680
Or what makes sense at the time.

600
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,040
"Do you have any videos online,
so I can hear what you do?"

601
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,320
So I vaguely remember
that there was a video.

602
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,000
ARNO KRABMAN
MUSIC PRODUCER, SUZAN & FREEK

603
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,000
And it needs to grab me right away.
So I think, I like what you're doing.

604
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,160
And I can add something for you.

605
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,960
♪ <i>All my life</i> ♪

606
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,440
♪ <i>I've been meeting the same people</i> ♪

607
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,280
♪ <i>How can it suddenly be so simple</i>? ♪

608
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,240
♪ <i>How can it suddenly be so simple</i>? ♪

609
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,280
What if we make this a chorus?

610
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,920
I do feel the urge to--

611
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,640
[Arno] You want to do something with this?

612
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,720
Well…

613
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,200
If you feel it too.

614
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,000
-[Arno] It's nice.
-It's a strong piece.

615
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,120
[Arno] We started putting
other people's songs

616
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400
into the "Suzan & Freek" wrapper.

617
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,880
Suus behind the piano, Freek on guitar.

618
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,680
It was instantly good together.

619
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,920
What we're doing sounds cool.

620
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,800
Not concerned about
what the outside world thinks

621
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,440
or how big it could be.

622
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,480
That's not too important in the beginning.

623
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,840
But in time. Just so, right?

624
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,600
This feels totally left,
and that feels totally right.

625
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,920
-[Arno] That's what we were looking for.
-Exactly.

626
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,720
Let's give ourselves 15 minutes
to get everything set down.

627
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,360
The first thing we ever did
was a song that was a hit at the time.

628
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,800
That was six years ago.

629
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,680
That was The Chainsmokers
with "Don't Let Me Down."

630
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,240
DON'T LET ME DOWN (COVER)
MUSIC VIDEO, 2016

631
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,240
And we gave it a totally different feel

632
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,000
that is typically Suzan & Freek.

633
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,560
[playing "Don't Let Me Down"]

634
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,840
♪<i> I need you, I need you</i>
<i>I need you right now </i>♪

635
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,480
♪<i> Yeah, I need you right now </i>♪

636
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,680
♪<i> So don't let me, don't let me</i>
<i>Don't let me down </i>♪

637
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,120
♪<i> I think I'm losing my mind now </i>♪

638
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,520
♪<i> It's in my head</i>
<i>Darling, I hope </i>♪

639
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,440
♪<i> That you'll be here</i>
<i>When I need you the most</i>… ♪

640
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,480
[Arno] Then we said,
"This sounds super cool."

641
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,800
We brought it out.

642
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,960
Which means it was on Spotify, you know.

643
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,040
♪ <i>Don't let me down</i> ♪

644
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,480
[Brigit] I remember them standing here.
"Shall we post it or not?"

645
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,760
I said,
"Guys, I'm going to the supermarket."

646
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,760
I came back from shopping,

647
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,520
"You won't believe it.
The artist has responded!"

648
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,360
"I told you that you should do it."

649
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,400
If I recall,
they then did a club tour right away

650
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,560
with covers.

651
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,280
And it sold out.

652
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,280
[calm music playing]

653
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,520
-[Freek] Holy moly.
-[Suzan] Really an intimate little hall.

654
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,080
The smallest of our…

655
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,680
[Freek] Arie?

656
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,960
[Suzan] Hi.

657
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,920
-[Freek] Jerry Mulder. Very nice.
-Last time, it was the three of us here.

658
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,040
-The two of us.
-Five-and-a-half years ago.

659
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,120
-Up there on the balcony.
-[Freek] 150 people.

660
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,240
Ay-yi-yi.

661
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,360
-The three of us.
-[Suzan] We were talking about that.

662
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,320
Five-and-a-half years ago, our first one.

663
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,240
-Crazy, right? As if it were yesterday.
-[Freek] Yeah.

664
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Cool, right.

665
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200
[Freek] Nice too, that it's so small.

666
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,240
On October 21st 2017,
we had our very first show here.

667
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120
The very first club show
of the group Suzan & Freek.

668
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,320
In the upper hall.

669
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,400
And we had <i>one</i> crew member,

670
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,360
and he's over there in the corner,
Jerry Mulder, ladies and gentlemen.

671
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880
He was backliner, lighting technician,
front of house, and monitor man.

672
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,960
And security.

673
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,760
-[playing melody on guitar]
-[Freek laughs]

674
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,960
Financial director.

675
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,760
He doesn't have to do anything now.
He's earned it all.

676
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,160
[Jerry] The first time I heard of them,

677
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,000
I was working
at the 4Days Marches in Nijmegen.

678
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,960
I was a freelancer,
and I worked for the company

679
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,480
that arranged the light and sound
for that stage.

680
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,320
I had no idea who Suzan & Freek were.

681
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,000
JERRY MULDER
SOUND ENGINEER, SUZAN & FREEK

682
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,600
I had to google them.

683
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,880
I had to look online to see who they were.

684
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,280
So I knew who I had to look for,
an image, so to say.

685
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,320
But they could just have been
two people in town,

686
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,320
walking through the town.

687
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,520
-[indistinct chattering]
-[Freek] Yeah, great.

688
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,720
-[Suzan] I might go very…
-[Jerry] He stood here.

689
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,800
[Freek] Last chorus.

690
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000
[Jerry] It was a relatively small stage.

691
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,040
There was no room for a band.
It was full with two people.

692
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Nice, guys.

693
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,200
I thought, where's everyone coming from?

694
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,920
It was suddenly so full.

695
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,200
We'll see who can sing loudest.
Are we ready?

696
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,880
NIJMEGEN 4DAYS MARCHES
NIJMEGEN, JULY 2017

697
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,960
We'll start with my side. Here it comes.

698
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,640
One, two, three.

699
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,960
[starts singing line]

700
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,360
[crowd singing loudly]

701
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,640
[Suzan] We can do it better.
Let's go! One, two, three.

702
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,040
[starts singing line]

703
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,280
[crowd singing loudly]

704
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,520
We can be louder!

705
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,600
One, two three.

706
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,760
[starts singing line]

707
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,160
[crowd singing loudly]

708
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,840
[Jerry] Then I realized that they were
more famous than I thought they were.

709
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,800
We were in Nijmegen tonight,
and it went like this…

710
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800
[crowd cheering loudly]

711
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,480
[Jerry] Then we stayed in touch.

712
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,960
That's why I'm sitting here now. [laughs]

713
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,960
[new song playing over monitors]

714
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,960
GRAVELAND STUDIO
KORTENHOEF, JANUARY 2022

715
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720
When I go back and forth, it gets so…

716
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280
-So boring.
-Here in the lows.

717
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,160
I want it to be even cooler.
I find it too easy.

718
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,720
Can I say that?

719
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,960
It began to snowball
and kept getting bigger.

720
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,800
[woman] At that time, I also had Bierpop.

721
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,840
I asked if they wanted
to play as the opening act.

722
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,440
"Oh, yes. Very much. What an honor."
And all saying "Wow!"

723
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,440
MISS MONTREAL
ARTIST

724
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,800
It was really nice

725
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,840
because they sat there together

726
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,280
with her on the piano and Freek all dopey.

727
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,560
Sorry, Freek.

728
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,720
On the guitar, a bit like this.

729
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,680
And so nervous, boy.

730
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,240
But the hall sang along with everything,
and then I realized,

731
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,600
this will last another month,
then it's going to explode.

732
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,080
They did more shows.

733
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,560
They were the opening act
for international shows.

734
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,840
Always doing covers.

735
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,560
Then we said, "Shall we write a song?"

736
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,080
"Yeah, that's good."

737
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,680
And I asked,
"Have you ever written a song?"

738
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,440
"We've never written a song.
We've tried, but it was nothing."

739
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,160
"Shall we write a song then?" "Okay."

740
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:07,800
Freek worked with us behind the scenes,

741
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,680
uh, and we did talk about those videos.

742
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,760
How they did it, why they did it.

743
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,760
And I increasingly came to understand

744
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,520
that we could learn from him. As a label.

745
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,680
How he has a very strong sense
of what works for people.

746
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,360
What works for the public.

747
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,800
We always said,
"If you have your own song,

748
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,280
we'll talk about it."

749
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,800
Until Freek came to my office one day,

750
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,640
"We've written our own song."

751
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,760
And I remember… It doesn't happen often,
and I'll say it here…

752
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,800
I heard that song once, and I said,
"Freek, that's a genuine hit."

753
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,520
I remember he replied, "You think so?"

754
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640
♪ <i>I can't bear it when the evening comes</i> ♪

755
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:46,560
QMUSIC BELGIUM

756
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,040
♪ <i>Oh, because in the evening</i>
<i>I miss you often </i>♪

757
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,560
♪<i> You know I don't listen</i>
<i>When you talk like that </i>♪

758
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,120
♪<i> And touch me like that</i>
<i>And then leave </i>♪

759
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,840
♪<i> Tell me it will be fine </i>♪

760
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,080
♪<i> Give me pieces of future </i>♪

761
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,960
♪<i> Or should I just let you go? </i>♪

762
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,960
♪<i> I can't bear it when the evening comes </i>♪

763
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,760
♪<i> I have truly missed you often </i>♪

764
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,680
[Sanne] You'd be in the supermarket
and suddenly hear "Als Het Avond Is."

765
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Then you would think, guys!

766
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,840
All week, "This is her."

767
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,880
[both laugh]

768
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,480
I still get that today.

769
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,200
Recently at the hairdresser,
it came on… every time.

770
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,000
She's only human but so special,
and you're so proud. [laughs]

771
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,440
Thank you all for coming this evening.

772
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,520
Hopefully, you get home quickly.

773
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,920
-Safe journey. Thank you.
-Thank you.

774
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,280
[crowd cheering]

775
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,040
[Freek] I like it best
with the bun on her head.

776
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,440
This is also nice, but…

777
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,360
This is just for one night, you know.
In the glam.

778
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,520
In the glam.

779
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,320
It's pretty, that dress.

780
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,920
-You think it's pretty?
-Yeah.

781
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,200
[vocalizing]

782
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,120
Okay.

783
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,120
Armpits well-shaved?

784
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Am I overdressed?
I see understated dresses.

785
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,200
[Freek] No, look at her.

786
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,800
-I was just about to say.
-Oh, no.

787
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,880
-Will it be okay?
-[Freek laughs] Yeah.

788
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,600
No, but I still feel like…

789
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,560
[Freek] That's always true
with things like this.

790
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,240
-Suzan, act like an artist.
-[Freek] Yeah.

791
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920
EDISON POP AWARDS 2022
LEUSDEN, APRIL 2022

792
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,960
[Suzan] I realize that
I didn't start this to become famous.

793
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,680
That's the only thing
I find difficult at times.

794
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,720
And that's maybe the reason

795
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,480
why we never do anything
non-music-related on TV.

796
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,920
-Very good.
-[Freek] Great.

797
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,240
[Suzan] I like music.
I don't find being famous…

798
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,600
I would rather not be.

799
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Great.

800
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,240
I don't know
if people have a complete image of me

801
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,360
because I'm not a person
who reveals my inner thoughts.

802
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,200
I also always tend
to make a joke out of everything,

803
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,320
whether good or bad.

804
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,400
I had a kind of <i>Star Wars</i> robot outfit,

805
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,200
and when I turned up,
Suus said, "We're not doing that." No, no…

806
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,680
On the other hand, that is who I am.

807
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,840
I'm still frequently discovering who I am,

808
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,560
and it's an ongoing quest.

809
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,440
-How are you?
-Yeah, I'm good.

810
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,640
I've sometimes heard people
talking about Suzan & Freek,

811
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,480
and I didn't think
they were talking about me.

812
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,120
Suzan & Freek has become
a separate thing in itself.

813
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,880
I think the challenge is

814
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,800
for us to clearly determine
what we will and won't give away.

815
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,360
If you can dream it, you can do it.

816
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,400
Likeable and Dutch to the core.

817
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,960
The Edison in the "Album" category
goes to Suzan & Freek.

818
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,600
[crowd cheering]

819
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,640
["Goud" by Suzan & Freek playing]

820
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,840
Wow. Um, thank you. An Edison.

821
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,480
Hey, thank you. Also nice. Um…

822
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,440
[camera clicking]

823
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,400
-Great.
-Great.

824
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,000
-Together is good.
-Yeah.

825
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,320
[Suzan] Freek was already
working in the music industry

826
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,720
behind the scenes.
Before we did this, before we were famous.

827
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,560
And I used to go along
to the music festivals.

828
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,120
And nobody spoke to me,
which I thought was great.

829
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,120
I'm a bit of an introvert. Just let me
stand in a corner with a drink.

830
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,040
And now, suddenly,
everyone comes over to me.

831
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,120
And sometimes I think,
do these people really like me?

832
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,440
Or do they want to get something from me?

833
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,840
It feels that way at times.

834
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,680
You get the feeling
that everyone wants something from you.

835
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,720
We have very good people around us.
I'm looked after.

836
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,200
THE ACHTERHOEK
FREEK'S MOTHER'S HOUSE, APRIL 2022

837
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,040
[Freek] Hi, hi.

838
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,880
Do you always leave keys in the door?

839
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,000
-All good?
-Freekie.

840
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,800
-Yes.
-Yeah. All right.

841
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,800
You've got a book by Robbie Williams?

842
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,800
Yes, you can have it. I got it this week.

843
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,960
-[Freek] Is it good?
-[Brigit] I had…

844
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,720
I got to pick out all these books,
and then I thought,

845
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,520
if Freek comes, I could surprise you with…

846
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,960
-Nice.
-Take it with you.

847
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,280
-Freek, do you want tea or coffee?
-[Freek] I'll have water.

848
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,000
[Brigit] The best song?

849
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,280
I still find "Hoofd In De Wolken"
a really nice song.

850
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:40,800
And…

851
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,040
"Als Het Avond Is."
I think that's a nice song, but

852
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,400
it's a painful song for me.

853
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,960
-I don't know myself.
-[Brigit] You've got plenty of records.

854
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,280
Maybe also "Als Het Avond Is."
Just because it was the first,

855
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,000
and looking back, it also related to you.

856
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,520
But Freek, that song was…

857
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,080
-You'd already finished it in July.
-[Freek] Yeah.

858
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,480
And when the bolt from the blue
came in August…

859
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,760
-[Freek] You separated, yeah.
-We separated.

860
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,240
I mean, from one moment to the next…

861
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,160
So actually…

862
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,640
The story was tacked on afterward.

863
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,240
[Freek] Yes, while you--

864
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,560
-But when you hear the lyrics…
-[Freek] Yeah.

865
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,560
-…that was exactly it.
-[Freek] Yeah.

866
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,240
-Strange.
-[Freek] Very much.

867
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,600
[calm music playing]

868
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,760
When we'd just broken through,

869
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,200
you separated from each other,
and that was a moment

870
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,600
where I…

871
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,520
Everyone had enough on their plate.

872
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,880
In that situation,
if things were not going so well for me,

873
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,080
I didn't want to pass that on to you.

874
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,720
The night that you first…

875
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,240
I'm telling it.

876
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,800
The night that
you played it for the first time…

877
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,960
I think it was a Wednesday evening.

878
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,080
At eight o'clock, we, Vincent and I,

879
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,640
put our signatures on the divorce papers.

880
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:04,360
The same evening.
I'll never forget that moment.

881
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,200
So that song has so much meaning for me.

882
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,600
But people around us all say,

883
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,840
"How can a song be made like that?
It's your story."

884
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,080
-Yeah, exactly.
-But it still touches me.

885
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,680
[calm music continues]

886
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,360
[Freek] In just one moment,

887
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,840
your entire family is turned upside down.

888
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,040
You always think
that other parents get divorced.

889
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,440
You hear about
so-and-so with divorced parents.

890
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,800
And my parents were both almost 60.

891
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,200
You think it won't ever happen.

892
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,520
But it did happen.

893
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,840
I hadn't been living at home
for seven or eight years.

894
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,720
I would go home on the weekend,

895
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,400
but I didn't necessarily realize
that it wasn't going so well for them.

896
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,760
So it really came as a blow.

897
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,680
And, in the beginning,

898
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,720
I didn't have much contact with my father.

899
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,960
He was with his new love.

900
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,960
I find it difficult because
I don't really like to talk about it.

901
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:22,320
Suus in particular really helped me a lot.

902
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,800
It costs me a lot of energy
to be angry with people.

903
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,160
I find I handle it best by saying,

904
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:32,800
"Let's try and look at the good things."

905
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,480
And let's see what we can take from that.

906
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Suus really helped me with that.

907
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,680
Today is a bit of a special day for us.

908
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,400
[Freek] We already mentioned,
it's my birthday.

909
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,440
It's your birthday too, Freek.

910
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,240
But also because
it's three years to the day

911
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,160
since "Als Het Avond Is"
reached number one.

912
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:58,080
-[crowd cheering]
-[Suzan chuckles]

913
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,640
And I think it's a funny story
because we both had regular jobs,

914
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,800
and we didn't really have
that much to do with music.

915
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,440
We just did it as a hobby.

916
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,880
And we thought, let's write our own song.

917
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,080
And we'll see.

918
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,040
And we brought it out,
and it kept growing until suddenly

919
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,160
it was at number one.
On that Sunday evening, we decided,

920
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:21,160
"We're going to resign and go for it."

921
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:23,440
-["Als Het Avond Is" playing]
-Well, look at us now.

922
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,760
I'm so proud when I see all this.

923
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,440
[crowd cheering]

924
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,360
[Suzan] Thank you for coming.

925
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,120
♪ <i>Sometimes I feel bad</i> ♪

926
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,520
♪ <i>That you don't want</i>
<i>To talk so much anymore </i>♪

927
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,880
♪<i> Then I miss the time</i>
<i>When I could be angry with you </i>♪

928
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,960
♪<i> Now it's silent </i>♪

929
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,040
♪<i> As night falls </i>♪

930
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,800
♪<i> I whisper softly </i>♪

931
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,880
♪<i> Do you hear me maybe? </i>♪

932
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,440
♪<i> I just don't know how </i>♪

933
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,000
♪<i> With everything I do </i>♪

934
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:11,440
♪<i> I can't bear it when the evening comes </i>♪

935
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,920
♪<i> Oh, because in the evening</i>
<i>I miss you often </i>♪

936
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,680
♪<i> Tell me it will be fine </i>♪

937
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,920
♪<i> Give me pieces of future </i>♪

938
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,280
♪<i> Or should I just let you go? </i>♪

939
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,920
♪<i> I can't bear it when the evening comes </i>♪

940
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,560
♪<i> I have truly missed you often </i>♪

941
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,160
Hey, Suzan & Freek.

942
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:46,240
[all laughing]

943
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,920
…that no one's following us, no security.

944
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,800
-He's in shot.
-Yes, exactly.

945
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,520
-Wait, no. That's right.
-Yeah.

946
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,360
It's usually like that.
I go that way. I stand here.

947
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,880
-[man] The other way round to usual.
-Yeah.

948
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,400
Am I walking all alone?
Or is there a security guard?

949
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,040
[man] There's someone in the background.

950
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,440
-No.
-Maybe on this step or that one?

951
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,240
-One of the steps.
-Use that step?

952
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,400
[Toon] When I first heard the plans
for the Ziggo Dome, I have to admit that…

953
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,120
If you think about it rationally

954
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,520
from an industry perspective,
you think, "Steady now, guys."

955
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,440
But Suzan & Freek…
the rules don't apply to them.

956
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,160
[Freek] Wow.

957
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Bizarre to think this
will be totally full of people tonight.

958
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,640
[Wout] Freek is truly
the brains behind Suzan & Freek

959
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:35,880
who is busy planning well in advance.

960
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,480
I think Freek already dreamed
of the Ziggo Dome at an early stage

961
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,440
while Suzan was still focused
on the neighborhood bar.

962
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,320
[Freek humming]

963
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,960
-Hi, honey. How are things?
-[Suzan] Hi.

964
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,040
-[Freek] Pretty heavy, huh?
-[Suzan] This one was very heavy.

965
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,200
It bothered me
that so much still needs doing.

966
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,280
-[Freek] But it's a lot for everyone.
-[Suzan] I think that too.

967
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,080
-I don't blame anyone.
-[Freek] No.

968
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,880
-[Suzan] It was just chaos.
-[Freek] Exactly.

969
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,640
But that's… how can it be? So crazy.

970
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,080
[both chuckle]

971
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Sick.

972
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,000
[Ineke] Suzan & Freek. Ziggo Dome 2022.

973
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,280
Just look.

974
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,760
I have no idea where it is.

975
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,840
I find it quite exciting, you know.

976
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,240
Just think, the preprogram starts at 7:30,

977
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,160
but they're not going to make it.

978
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:29,640
-I find that difficult. I'll forget it.
-Anyone have some white tape?

979
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,360
-Can I have a bit of tape?
-[Suzan] Hey. Hello!

980
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,440
Stress. So much stress.
Freek too, you could tell from afar.

981
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,480
Because there's so much to run through,
and things keep going wrong.

982
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,240
That makes Freek and me nervous.

983
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,080
We're both people who want
everything perfectly under control.

984
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,440
[Freek] You hear five men
on top of each other in your earphones.

985
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,280
-Just all mixed up.
-[Suzan] Yeah.

986
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,560
[Freek] And you go somewhere,

987
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,640
and the stands
that should be there are missing.

988
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,360
-I hope that this evening…
-[Suzan] Yes, you need them here.

989
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Everyone is under pressure,
but then we get nervous.

990
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,880
Actually, it's a bit too much pressure.

991
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,160
Some people might get used to it.

992
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,840
I think the pressure is inhuman today.

993
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:10,840
[laughs]

994
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,480
I just have to laugh at how stressed I am.

995
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,840
[indistinct chatter]

996
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,480
[cheering]

997
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,560
Wait for me.

998
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,000
-[panting]
-[shouting]

999
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,720
-Cool, man.
-Yeah.

1000
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,200
[ethereal music playing]

1001
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,120
[Suzan] I really find this to be
something I never thought of.

1002
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,280
And this is the pinnacle
of what you can do in the Netherlands.

1003
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,000
[Freek chuckles]

1004
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,640
-Great. It's happening.
-Yeah.

1005
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,920
♪ <i>Do you feel the light?</i> ♪

1006
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,520
[ethereal music building]

1007
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:03,200
[crowd cheering]

1008
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,480
[Freek laughs]

1009
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Totally rock style.

1010
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,160
Sick.

1011
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,760
[kisses]

1012
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,680
Ah! So great, this.

1013
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,320
-Enjoy it, huh?
-This is totally rock style. [laughs]

1014
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,960
-[whistling]
-[crowd continues cheering]

1015
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,520
["Dromen In Kleur"
by Suzan & Freek playing]

1016
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,480
[crowd continues cheering]

1017
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,360
♪ <i>I look around me</i> ♪

1018
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,440
♪ <i>And see the same street</i> ♪

1019
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,760
♪ <i>But it suddenly feels as if</i> ♪

1020
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,080
♪ <i>There is a new light here</i> ♪

1021
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,080
♪ <i>Because we dream in color</i> ♪

1022
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,000
[crowd cheering loudly]

1023
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,880
I have to say that Freek and I,

1024
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,800
over the past two years,

1025
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,200
have dreamed
of a moment like this so often.

1026
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,880
"How long will it take?
When can we finally do it?"

1027
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,880
[Brigit] When you think
that everyone there came for you.

1028
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,040
All singing at the top of their lungs.
That tank of energy.

1029
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,480
I think that's great. It touches me.

1030
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,680
[dramatic music playing]

1031
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,880
[Freek] Then you see
all those people standing there.

1032
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,880
The madness.
That's when I did shed a tear.

1033
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,280
[band member] It's always fun to play.

1034
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,800
[shouting]

1035
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,200
The energy that's released,
it draws you in.

1036
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,560
[Arno] The way
their performances have evolved

1037
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,520
was very clear at the Ziggo Dome.

1038
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,200
You suddenly realize
it's become a really big show.

1039
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,360
[Freek] Ziggo Dome!

1040
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,800
[Ineke] There are
so many people with talent,

1041
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,720
and not everyone gets to live it.

1042
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,000
Astonishment.

1043
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Pride.

1044
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,960
[crowd cheering]

1045
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,200
[Suzan] You don't always
have to have much experience

1046
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,040
but just trust in yourself and go for it.

1047
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,440
[dramatic music continues]

1048
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:23,720
Whoa!

1049
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,400
Whoa.

1050
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,720
Great! [laughs]

1051
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,440
[kisses, chuckles]

1052
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,480
-Oh, it went well, right?
-[Freek] Yeah.

1053
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,960
-It was great, right? [laughs]
-Oh!

1054
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,360
-Are you happy?
-It was crazy.

1055
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,920
-Are you happy?
-Yes, really happy. And you?

1056
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,560
-[Freek] Hundred percent.
-Yeah.

1057
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:43,480
[Freek] Hey, Suus. There she is.

1058
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,200
[chuckles]

1059
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,200
[Suzan] Hi, Mom.

1060
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,280
Hey.

1061
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,560
How cool, right? [laughs]

1062
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,120
[Freek laughing]

1063
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,240
-Hey, Mom.
-Hi. Ah!

1064
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,920
-[Freek] What did you think?
-[Brigit] Oh, man.

1065
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,880
-I just sat and cried.
-Yeah? [laughs]

1066
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,360
How wonderful.

1067
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,280
Hey.

1068
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,240
Totally crazy, man.

1069
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,160
-Bye.
-Bye.

1070
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,160
[calm music playing]

1071
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:09,600
What a strange feeling.

1072
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,480
-Look at this photo.
-[Freek] Yeah, I forwarded it.

1073
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,000
-Vera with your mom.
-[Freek] Nice. During "Lichtje Branden."

1074
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,480
[Suzan] How sweet.

1075
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,120
Just a couple more chips.

1076
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,400
[continues speaking indistinctly]

1077
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,960
I could really crave the feeling
of what just happened.

1078
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,960
-The feeling of happiness is so strong.
-[Freek] Yeah.

1079
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,000
It's a strange feeling.

1080
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,120
I'm kind of tired but not tired at all.

1081
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,000
[Suzan] I thought it was great, wasn't it?

1082
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,000
Yeah, right?

1083
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,320
Like you've come
to the top of the mountain.

1084
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,800
"Here we are. The top."
And then, for the rest of the vacation,

1085
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,440
you don't have to worry
about climbing the mountain.

1086
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,120
-[Suzan] Is my alarm already off?
-Yeah, it's off.

1087
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,000
[Suzan grunts]

1088
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,920
[Freek] What do you want?

1089
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,280
-What? Uh…
-[Freek] What do you want? Soda?

1090
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,680
[Suzan] No, I'll have
a water or something.

1091
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,640
[water running]

1092
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:25,720
-[Freek] Great, right?
-Oh, yes.

1093
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,120
-I feel really tired now.
-[Freek] Yeah?

1094
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,680
Whoa, what the fuck? This is sick.

1095
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,440
Check it out. It looks so cool.

1096
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,280
You don't see that sitting there,
with the mirror balls.

1097
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,360
[Freek] Fuck.

1098
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,680
-Cool.
-[Suzan] Cool, yeah?

1099
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,040
The outfits are good too.
I'm happy with our outfits.

1100
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,040
-[Freek] It all went well.
-Yeah.

1101
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,360
[Freek] Arie.

1102
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Yeah. Great, man.

1103
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,040
My legs are tired. Are yours?

1104
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,160
[Freek] Eh, I still have some

1105
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,600
of the adrenaline, you know?

1106
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,280
-Yeah.
-[Freek] I need to come down.

1107
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,840
[calm music playing]

1108
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,440
SANTA BARBARA
VACATION, SEPTEMBER 2022

1109
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,000
[card reader beeps]

1110
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,800
[Freek humming melody]

1111
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,560
[Suzan] Freek?

1112
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,840
-Can you get some water?
-Of course.

1113
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,760
-And some…
-[Freek] Sure.

1114
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,160
-Maybe something tasty, some chocolate.
-Of course.

1115
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:41,520
[Suzan] Great.

1116
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,920
[calm music continues]

1117
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,840
Sometimes, when I look at old pictures,

1118
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,760
when I see us
playing to three people somewhere,

1119
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,040
I think, that's how it was back then.

1120
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:55,960
[Freek] Yeah.

1121
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,840
[Suzan] When I look at photos
of us in a caravan, playing on the street.

1122
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,800
[Freek] Now, I think--

1123
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,360
-[Suzan] What an effort.
-[Freek] What a lot of effort we put in.

1124
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,720
-We really persevered.
-We kept going.

1125
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,280
We are Suzan & Freek.
Thank you for a lovely evening.

1126
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,200
And I was just as happy
doing it for far fewer people.

1127
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,520
-I liked it too.
-Now it's even more fun.

1128
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,320
That wasn't our motivation for doing it.

1129
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,680
-Otherwise, we might never have begun.
-No.

1130
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,280
You get more and more used to it.

1131
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,320
I have…

1132
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,240
Slowly, it's starting to be the case

1133
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:33,640
that we see ourselves on that list.

1134
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:38,840
To my mind, I don't think we have changed.
Just the world around us has changed.

1135
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,600
More people come to see us,
and people respond differently to us.

1136
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,080
But I'm really happy
that things between us feel the same,

1137
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,360
and also between us
and our family and friends,

1138
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,280
it still really feels like before,
and I think that is--

1139
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,880
-[Suzan] Good that it never went away.
-[Freek] No.

1140
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,640
You often say, if I wasn't here,
you would have led a different life.

1141
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,200
We've been lucky
that we've had each other.

1142
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,560
It keeps us grounded.

1143
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,160
But I can imagine,
with everything going on around you…

1144
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:12,280
It's so intense sometimes,
and it's nice to have a filter in between.

1145
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,040
For some people,
that filter is drink or something else.

1146
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,440
And I can very well imagine
that that's enjoyable.

1147
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,800
But luckily, we have each other
to share it a bit.

1148
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,040
Yeah.

1149
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,600
[Freek] What I personally really like,
is when I think

1150
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,280
that it's actually,

1151
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,520
I don't want to say "much more fun,"

1152
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,080
but it's still loads of fun together,
and that's the most important thing.

1153
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,600
I think it's important too.

1154
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,920
I think it would be really nice
to combine it with a family at some point.

1155
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,000
-That would really be…
-Mm-hmm.

1156
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,520
I would like that very much.

1157
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,240
♪ <i>Even though the sun sets ten times</i> ♪

1158
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,080
♪ <i>Even though the tide is turning again</i> ♪

1159
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,640
♪ <i>Let me lose myself for a while</i> ♪

1160
00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:03,920
♪ <i>In a dream</i> ♪

1161
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,800
♪ <i>And then you stand before me again</i> ♪

1162
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:18,400
♪ <i>Even though I may be dreaming</i> ♪

1163
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,800
♪ <i>But there is nothing…</i> ♪

1164
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,360
-Warm weather now?
-Yeah.

1165
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,440
[Freek] Look.

1166
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,360
[Suzan] Gosh, what an animal!

1167
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,000
[Freek] More exercise than we've had
for the past two weeks.

1168
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,520
[Suzan] Speak for yourself, fatty.

1169
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,520
-Bitch.
-[exclaims indistinctly]

1170
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,480
♪ <i>Just use this song as an anchor</i> ♪

1171
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,400
-[Freek] Suus, you start.
-Can I go on that side?

1172
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,000
-[Freek laughs]
-Then I can see better.

1173
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,360
[Freek] This is mental.

1174
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,400
[Suzan laughs]

1175
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,560
I can see much better from here.
Yes, that's better.

1176
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,840
[Freek] Loser does the dishes.

1177
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,400
-Oh.
-[Suzan] Not even close.

1178
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,440
I'd like to provide
a commentary on your throws.

1179
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,720
Well, pretty close.

1180
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,200
[Freek] Oh!

1181
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,920
I think I feel the pride
more than usual when I'm on vacation.

1182
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,040
I suddenly think,
so, that was really cool, right?

1183
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:06,960
Yeah.

1184
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,680
Or when we tell someone or show a video
of something we're involved in…

1185
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,040
-Then I suddenly think it's really cool.
-Yeah.

1186
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,840
Stupid. Then I think,
it's nice to enjoy it for once.

1187
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,280
Always so modest. We should also be proud.

1188
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,640
[calm music playing]

1189
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,240
Wow. This is really cool, right?

1190
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,160
Yeah?

1191
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,600
It's really cool.

1192
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,600
[Suzan] You were sorry
that I couldn't enjoy it as much

1193
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,280
in the beginning.

1194
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,880
[Freek] Because I really did enjoy it,

1195
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,720
and now and then
you didn't really enjoy it so much.

1196
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,320
On the way home, you would sit in the car

1197
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,800
crying at the thought
of doing it again tomorrow.

1198
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,040
Because I didn't know
if my voice would hold up.

1199
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,000
I found it hard.

1200
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,200
-Oh my God.
-[Freek laughs] Yeah, I know. Great.

1201
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:02,560
And then I was worried because I saw
you weren't enjoying it as much as I was.

1202
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,280
And I thought, oh…

1203
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,760
Is this speed and intensity…

1204
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,040
Is this what Suzan wants?

1205
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,600
[Suzan] Sometimes I'm a quitter.
I think, I'm not going to do that.

1206
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,240
You're afraid of the unknown.

1207
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,040
Then you say,
"I'd rather keep doing what I…"

1208
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,240
With every concert hall,
you said, "We're doing this one?"

1209
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,440
"No, I'm happy to keep doing the old one."

1210
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,440
-[laughs]
-And that was after Ziggo--

1211
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,160
-I find it more stressful.
-Yeah.

1212
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,400
That's also an internal safety mechanism,
which is good.

1213
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,280
-Yeah.
-Which I sometimes have less.

1214
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,080
"The fun is in the fear,"
but it's still difficult sometimes.

1215
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,640
But you're good at that,
and with you, I'm good at it too.

1216
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,880
[Freek] I really want
to fly a kite in this weather.

1217
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,680
[Suzan] Beautiful, isn't it?
I love it by the beach. Nice breeze.

1218
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,680
[Freek] Yeah, man.

1219
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,000
The Netherlands is really small.
And Belgium. That you…

1220
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,800
Which is good,
because if it sometimes gets too much,

1221
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,040
you can simply come here,

1222
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,160
but actually I find it
much too nice to want to leave.

1223
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,720
[helicopter blades whirring]

1224
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,320
LIBERATION DAY FESTIVAL
4 SHOWS ON 1 DAY, MAY 2022

1225
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,640
[Suzan] It seemed like
all the special things

1226
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,680
you can experience as an artist

1227
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,840
were all scheduled in one month.

1228
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,800
[crowd cheering]

1229
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,160
[Freek] Good evening, Leeuwarden.

1230
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,280
You look good from up here.

1231
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,200
Goddamn.

1232
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,160
We're at the halfway point today.

1233
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,320
We had Ziggo,

1234
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,360
and then it all started.

1235
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,040
-Sleep at home, as much as possible.
-[Freek] Yeah.

1236
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:39,840
It is a bit too busy.

1237
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,920
-[Suzan] Ziggo Dome.
-[Freek] The Ziggo.

1238
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,720
Then came the first show,
Vrienden van Amstel, then 538 Koningsdag.

1239
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,280
Thank you.

1240
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,400
Six or seven shows, Vrienden van Amstel.

1241
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,200
MAY 2022

1242
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,480
Four Liberation Day shows.

1243
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,960
LIBERATION DAY FESTIVAL
LEEUWARDEN, MAY 2022

1244
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,520
Four shows, Vrienden van Amstel.

1245
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,200
And so we had 18 in two weeks.

1246
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,360
Plus all the rehearsals related to it all.

1247
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,800
You sometimes forget that.

1248
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,080
Can you make sure
we hear Dirk's mic in our ears?

1249
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,520
But after "Mag Ik," we go straight here.

1250
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,600
-Receive the applause.
-[Freek] Yes, exactly.

1251
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,640
-Then Dirk sets the groove, and we join.
-[man] That's good. Okay.

1252
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,640
[Suzan] You have rehearsals
for anything new,

1253
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,800
and we rehearsed a lot
before the Ziggo Dome.

1254
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,000
And you sing a lot in private too.

1255
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,440
So, pretty grueling. [chuckles]

1256
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,960
♪ <i>It's quiet here on the other side</i> ♪

1257
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,160
♪ <i>But I come from here</i> ♪

1258
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,160
That was Snelle.

1259
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,600
[crowd cheers]

1260
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,040
[Snelle] I don't know
where they get the energy.

1261
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,520
They're the two hardest-working people
that I know.

1262
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,920
My colleagues and I sometimes
want to have a day when we think

1263
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,720
we'll just skip that set of photos…

1264
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:57,760
SNELLE
ARTIST

1265
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,360
…or we'll walk around
behind the red carpet, that sort of thing.

1266
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,960
But they always have energy

1267
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,480
and are always "on" and can do everything.

1268
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,600
I see them working, then afterwards,
just the two of them in a corner

1269
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,960
being themselves, and I think…

1270
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,680
I admire how they can always turn it on,

1271
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,640
to always be Suzan & Freek.

1272
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,200
I'm happy that was the last show
and that we persevered through it all.

1273
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,640
[Freek] Yeah, yeah.

1274
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,160
-And that I had a good time.
-And then you're right there again.

1275
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,960
[Suzan] I'd rather skip an after-party
and do an extra show

1276
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,960
because I find after-parties so…

1277
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,720
I'll do them in a few years
when I'm no longer enjoying it,

1278
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,800
then I'll celebrate
all my parties. [laughs]

1279
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,360
Now, I think,
we've got all the cool festivals.

1280
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,560
-Surely you can't miss that?
-[Freek] Yeah.

1281
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:47,480
No.

1282
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,560
I think, how things are now,

1283
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,320
just being very respectable

1284
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,600
with no drugs, no rock 'n' roll, you know?

1285
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,960
Thank God they don't have that.

1286
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,200
Sometimes a bit,
which is too bad, but fine.

1287
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,200
But it's just really nice, you know?

1288
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,240
They are so steady but not boring.

1289
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,800
And I think,

1290
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,600
if you can keep that up
over the long term,

1291
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,960
you can take on the whole world.

1292
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,200
[Suzan] If I go to bed late,
I can't manage.

1293
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,400
We have to push on a bit.

1294
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,640
I think it's important to do it well.

1295
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,880
That you don't think, uh,

1296
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,360
"If I'd just done my best
and gone to fewer after-parties,

1297
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,840
because it didn't sound good."
I'd find that annoying.

1298
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,080
I wouldn't want that.

1299
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,560
It has to be good. And fun and good.

1300
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,800
I'm always a bit scared
and think, "As long as it goes well."

1301
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,280
We can still walk.

1302
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,600
LIBERATION DAY FESTIVAL
ASSEN, MAY 2022

1303
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,760
-Hello.
-[man] Hi. Time for a quick photo?

1304
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,720
[Suzan] We have to perform, sorry.

1305
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,440
You can't have photos
with everyone at a show anymore.

1306
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,880
I used to do it all the time
earlier this year.

1307
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,040
We'd spend an hour and a half
after the show taking photos with people,

1308
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,400
and then I realized

1309
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,520
it was starting to take more energy
than the show itself.

1310
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,520
[crowd singing along to "Blauwe Dag"]

1311
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,040
[Suzan] Now that one,
now we have to finish the row.

1312
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,680
Half an hour, grimacing…

1313
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,320
But if you do that every night,
you realize it can't continue.

1314
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,000
"Suzan & Freek, don't do it!"

1315
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,600
Then I think, how bad.
We really shouldn't do that.

1316
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,680
I find it pathetic.
So that's tricky at times, yes.

1317
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,800
[song ending]

1318
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,080
[Freek groans]

1319
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,440
[crowd cheering]

1320
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:38,960
[Freek groans]

1321
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,200
-Nice.
-[Suzan] Great, guys.

1322
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,040
[woman] We'll get you straight on the bus.

1323
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,040
-[Freek] What?
-We'll put you straight on the bus.

1324
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,040
[Freek] Yeah, great.

1325
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,120
[Freek laughs]

1326
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,800
[Suzan laughs, kisses]

1327
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,760
[Freek laughs] Holy shit.

1328
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,200
-[Suzan] The show was cool, right?
-[Freek] It was.

1329
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,880
[Suzan] I'm gonna sit on the floor.
Then they won't see me.

1330
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,360
-[grunts] My abs.
-[Freek] Exactly.

1331
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,440
This is nice.

1332
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,240
[Freek] Oh my God.

1333
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,320
[Suzan exhales]

1334
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,760
Funny, I thought they wouldn't see me now.

1335
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,560
I look up, and everyone is
watching me sitting on the floor.

1336
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:18,520
All waving.

1337
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,280
[Suzan] Can you pull that curtain shut?

1338
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,440
I'll sit for a moment.

1339
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,520
Otherwise, I always feel so…

1340
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,960
[Freek speaks indistinctly]

1341
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,160
Thank you.

1342
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,000
[Freek] I think we're very approachable,
which is what we want to be, and we are.

1343
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,800
But that sometimes, uh,

1344
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,160
has the disadvantage
that everyone comes up to you.

1345
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,240
Which is sometimes really nice,
but sometimes not so much.

1346
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,800
When I go to a restaurant
with Freek and my parents,

1347
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,120
and we sit next to a table
with a young girl,

1348
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,320
and she begins to cry
out of panic at seeing us,

1349
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,920
and I find it intense to have that effect,

1350
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,280
that everything around us has changed.

1351
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,080
Everyone is waiting here. [laughs]

1352
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,960
-Can you see?
-Hello.

1353
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,160
-Oh, how bad. I feel so bad.
-No, that's not bad.

1354
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,600
They're waiting.
They want a photo, and we're in the bus.

1355
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:09,560
[laughing]

1356
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,520
I wish there were some blinds.

1357
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,120
-[woman laughs]
-[Freek sighs]

1358
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,200
-Shouldn't we go for a photo?
-You'll be there for over an hour.

1359
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,440
-There are so many people.
-Okay, that's fine.

1360
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,280
With some things,
I feel it's getting more difficult.

1361
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:26,000
When I walk by an elementary school,
and the entire yard shouts my name,

1362
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,240
I think, shit, maybe I shouldn't
walk past a schoolyard anymore.

1363
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,640
Then never walk past a schoolyard again?
That's crazy.

1364
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,000
[camera clicking]

1365
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,600
[Suzan] Can you turn the camera off?
Thanks.

1366
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,680
[Freek] On stage, it's okay.
It's more the stuff around it.

1367
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,800
[Suzan] Yes. Everyone just runs around
taking photos all the time.

1368
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,520
You think,
just leave me alone for a second.

1369
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,320
[Freek] Keep walking.

1370
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,920
-[Suzan] Nice it's just the two of us.
-[Freek] Yeah, great.

1371
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,520
[pensive music playing]

1372
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,560
I'm happiest when it's the two of us
in the car heading home.

1373
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,320
Because then everyone around us is gone,
and it's just the two of us for a while.

1374
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Isn't it crazy,
what we're experiencing, you know?

1375
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,000
That's what makes me happiest.

1376
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,680
[laughing]

1377
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,000
[Suzan speaks indistinctly, laughs]

1378
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,760
-[Freek] Right?
-Yes, honey. I like it too.

1379
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,960
[Freek] It's on here,
the busiest period of the year.

1380
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,760
-We made it. Until the end.
-[Freek] Yeah, right?

1381
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,560
It was a lot, but it was great.

1382
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,560
Nineteen shows in seventeen days,

1383
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,400
and each show for more than 15,000 people.

1384
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,000
-[Freek chuckles]
-I think that's pretty intense.

1385
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,720
And we were thinking,
can we do this? Will it work?

1386
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,920
Can the crew handle all these shows?
Will it work technically?

1387
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,880
-[Freek] Will your voice hold out?
-Will it hold out?

1388
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,080
But it all went great,
so now the rest of the year…

1389
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,960
Surely now it will be fine.

1390
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,000
BUMA AWARDS
BUSSUM, MAY 2022

1391
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,680
[indistinct chattering]

1392
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:10,640
Important day.

1393
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,640
Hey, hello.

1394
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,320
[cameras clicking]

1395
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,080
[laughing]

1396
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,920
-Hey, hello.
-Journalist from the<i> Weekend.</i>

1397
01:08:26,440 --> 01:08:29,720
What a life you're living.
Compared to a couple of years ago.

1398
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,120
-You have to think, what happened?
-Yeah.

1399
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,480
-Do you experience it the same way?
-Yeah. The last month in particular was…

1400
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,920
-The guy just came right up to me.
-Yes, but you mustn't do that.

1401
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,160
That's the <i>Weekend</i>. We don't talk to them.

1402
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,200
Can you just check? Whether he…

1403
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,560
Say that they should let us see it.

1404
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,920
Or just get rid.
We didn't actually want to talk with him.

1405
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:55,800
We once had an interview where
someone was taunting us with questions

1406
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,600
in the hopes we would snap.
I can't remember what it was,

1407
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,120
but it's always
about something very personal.

1408
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,880
While I'm there thinking,
we've written a new song.

1409
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,120
Maybe you should ask about that.

1410
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,480
-I should have walked away.
-[Suzan] I was looking for you.

1411
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,880
I was there thinking, "Should I, yes, no?"

1412
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,960
That was in the course of the questions.

1413
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,200
Suzan, hello.

1414
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,720
[Freek] I think there is
always a certain line between,

1415
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,920
uh, who we are as artists
and what is truly private, for us alone.

1416
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,720
And I think that's something

1417
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,480
we have to think hard about
to keep things chill for us.

1418
01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:35,640
[host] This might be a heavy question
to ask right at the start…

1419
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:36,560
MARCH 2022

1420
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,760
…but do you guys have a type of wild card?

1421
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,720
In case you want
to dance with someone else or…

1422
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,440
-[both laugh]
-[host] Separately.

1423
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,440
-What a strange question.
-A wild card.

1424
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,200
We have an open relationship… no.

1425
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,280
-No, we don't have a wild card. [laughs]
-No. No.

1426
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,400
In my head, I'm kind of thinking

1427
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:59,920
that I want to tell <i>100% Nederland,</i>

1428
01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:03,720
"Cut out that bit about the wild card."
Because I…

1429
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,120
What's private needs to remain private.

1430
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,560
That's the last piece of us
that we still own.

1431
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:11,680
Here, your pass.

1432
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,680
-Thank you.
-Great.

1433
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:13,600
MARCH 2022

1434
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,000
I think we're saying
that the story about the wild card--

1435
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,080
That can be taken out.
Then he'll understand.

1436
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,040
-Is that okay?
-Yes, I want…

1437
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,640
[Suzan] We've become entertainers.
And we're also still just people.

1438
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,920
Sometimes you notice…
You wouldn't ask your friends that.

1439
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,920
It's not very respectful, actually.

1440
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,200
What do you think?
You find the question awkward.

1441
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,520
-Maybe you shouldn't ask it then.
-[Freek] Exactly.

1442
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,000
[Ineke] It goes far, I think.

1443
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,880
What they do with people, they…

1444
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,400
But that applies to everyone.
Everyone is under the microscope.

1445
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:45,560
If anything happens here in the village,

1446
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,320
then everyone talks about it for a week.

1447
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,920
And the following week,
they talk about something else.

1448
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,440
But in the world of fame,
it's really hard right now, I think.

1449
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,400
And sometimes it's nothing,
but it gets so widely reported.

1450
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:01,120
That doesn't make you happy.
But it's independent of them.

1451
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,040
It's the case for everyone.
I don't like it.

1452
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,920
I hear some people ask,

1453
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,480
"Isn't it hard
working with your partner all day

1454
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,320
and seeing them in private?"

1455
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,560
Well, we had a farm, so…

1456
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:15,720
It isn't hard.

1457
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,160
If you're with someone
you like being around

1458
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,400
and who you work well with,

1459
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:24,440
it's not annoying at all.

1460
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,600
We've never found it annoying,
and we don't see that in them either.

1461
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,480
It's crazy that people
are interested in the first place.

1462
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,240
[calm music playing]

1463
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,680
LOOSDRECHT LAKES
AUGUST 2022

1464
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,360
I'll have an Aperol. Bang!

1465
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:41,760
[chuckles]

1466
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:42,760
[man] But we have…

1467
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,720
-[chuckles]
-[woman] I have four glasses.

1468
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,800
I wanted to bring truffle. Suus said no.

1469
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,440
-There's beer. But no…
-[woman] Here's another one.

1470
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,160
[overlapping indistinct chatter]

1471
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,200
[all laughing]

1472
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,920
[woman] No, that can't be.

1473
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:57,000
-[Freek] There's cork in it.
-Cork.

1474
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,160
[Freek] Cork. [babbles]

1475
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,080
[woman] Well…

1476
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,000
-Hey, cheers.
-[all] Cheers.

1477
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,560
[all cheering]

1478
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,560
[Suzan] At the beginning
of this busy period, I found it hard

1479
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,600
because we saw each other less.

1480
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,640
And I found that difficult.

1481
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,320
But I've noticed that

1482
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,520
a certain small club of people
formed around me

1483
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,600
that has become smaller over time

1484
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,200
and that I want to see more.

1485
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,760
[calm music continues]

1486
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,200
I'm really very conventional.
Yes. That's true. Yes.

1487
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:27,280
AT HOME
SUZAN & FREEK

1488
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,360
But it strikes me
that a lot of people are.

1489
01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:31,520
Then I think,

1490
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,160
how nice that we found each other,
because we get along well.

1491
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,040
I'm not one for full-on parties.
I don't stay up late often.

1492
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,200
I don't drink, don't do drugs.
I'm really quite boring.

1493
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,960
But I do like
doing nice things with my friends

1494
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,400
and having a good time
with people I care about.

1495
01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:48,840
[speaking indistinctly]

1496
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,800
But, on the other hand, conventional…

1497
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,320
I do really great shows.
So what exactly is… cool?

1498
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,920
Getting blind drunk on the weekend

1499
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,240
or playing a concert for 40,000 people?
So, yeah…

1500
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,840
Yes, maybe I am a bit conventional,

1501
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,040
but I find myself to be pretty cool
with what we do. [laughs]

1502
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,520
[melody playing on piano]

1503
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,160
[Freek] I've noticed
that spending time together

1504
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,600
doesn't consume any energy.

1505
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,680
We're good at being together,

1506
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,800
sometimes without having to say anything.

1507
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,440
It lets us both recharge.

1508
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,120
And it isn't the case
that we view it as an activity,

1509
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,040
"Let's do something together now."

1510
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,400
We just enjoy being together
and that… yeah.

1511
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,680
I don't really think about it.
I just find…

1512
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,920
If I want to go cycling,
I'll say, "Want to come for a ride?"

1513
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,240
Then we'll go cycling together.
I prefer that to being alone.

1514
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,680
We could fill up our entire week.
Requests for TV things

1515
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,640
and interview for this,
we could appear in Belgium for this…

1516
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,480
But I said to Freek,
"I don't want to be so busy."

1517
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,360
I just don't want that.
I also want to have a nice life.

1518
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,480
♪ <i>Maybe kissed</i> ♪

1519
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,720
♪ <i>Fathers and mothers</i> ♪

1520
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,400
♪ <i>A little laughter too at everyone</i> ♪

1521
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:27,360
♪ <i>Now it feels exactly as it used to</i> ♪

1522
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:31,440
♪ <i>You and I</i>
<i>The world at my feet </i>♪

1523
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,960
♪<i> When I looked at you </i>♪

1524
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,040
♪<i> I suddenly became </i>♪

1525
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,440
♪<i> Someone from the past again </i>♪

1526
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,440
-[woman 1] <i>See you.</i>
-[woman 2]<i> Bye.</i>

1527
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:43,840
-See you later.
-Have fun.

1528
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:44,960
-Bye.
-Later.

1529
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,440
-An hour…
-Yes, just that.

1530
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,240
-Accordion.
-[laughs] Accordion.

1531
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,720
[melody on piano continues]

1532
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,920
-Funny going to a show like this.
-[Freek] Yeah, right?

1533
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,200
[Suzan] When do we do this now?

1534
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,480
I remember well that we…

1535
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,520
Just before corona, we were in the meadow.

1536
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,360
Kraantje Pappie was on the main stage.

1537
01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:06,320
-We said, "Great show."
-[Freek] Yeah.

1538
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,200
Big stage,
with the big "Daddy" at the back.

1539
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,120
[Freek] Yeah.

1540
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,680
-I thought, that guy's made it.
-[Freek laughs] Yeah.

1541
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:13,800
Well, let's go then.

1542
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:19,480
I think I'm still very keen
to make people happy.

1543
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,320
And I want people to like me

1544
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,080
and like what I do.

1545
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,000
So, maybe I,

1546
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:27,640
above all<i>,</i>

1547
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,760
should try a little harder to accept
that there is a large group that like it.

1548
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,960
I should be happy with that.
We're successful in what we do.

1549
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,520
People come to our shows.

1550
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,080
And I try very much
to look at what we do have

1551
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:45,960
and the people who like it, instead of
the people who maybe don't like it

1552
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,920
and feel the need to say that or… Yeah.

1553
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,520
-Have fun. [laughs]
-I still find it quite exciting.

1554
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:53,760
-Exciting, right?
-Suus.

1555
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,000
-I find it horribly scary.
-Exciting, huh?

1556
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,840
-Nice to have you here.
-Super cool.

1557
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,080
-Horribly scary.
-It will be all right.

1558
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,960
You can tell by looking at you,
you really are all…

1559
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,160
Just breathe calmly.

1560
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,320
-The first song, then you'll be okay.
-Yeah, that's right.

1561
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,440
Then I'll be back.

1562
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:09,360
Ah!

1563
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:10,800
It will be fine.

1564
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,880
You're wearing a gorgeous outfit.

1565
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,200
I'm glad you guys are here.

1566
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,360
-Good that you're all here.
-[Suzan] Good you're here, man.

1567
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,360
[Wout] The Zwarte Cross
is the festival of The Achterhoek.

1568
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,600
Freek is never afraid to think big,

1569
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,040
although I don't think he ever dared dream

1570
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,200
that they would play
the main stage at Zwarte Cross.

1571
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:34,440
Get yourself together.

1572
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,160
[laughing]

1573
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:37,440
Holy shit, man.

1574
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,960
[Wout] Suus was literally 200 meters
from the main stage cooking fries.

1575
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,880
She never dared dream
that she would ever stand up there.

1576
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,640
[Miss Montreal] They haven't been
so big for long,

1577
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,880
but if I know them

1578
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,400
and they keep doing what they want,

1579
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,120
I think they'll keep going a long time.

1580
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,760
Until they're 80 or something.

1581
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:02,560
[Freek] This is it, guys.

1582
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,640
[all cheering]

1583
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,960
[announcer] Zwarte Cross, here…

1584
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:09,920
Suzan & Freek!

1585
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,320
[crowd cheering loudly]

1586
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,080
["Dromen In Kleur"
by Suzan & Freek playing]

1587
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,520
Zwarte Cross. Good afternoon!

1588
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,280
♪ <i>But weren't we gold?</i> ♪

1589
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,160
♪ <i>Tell me</i>
<i>What if I can never forget you</i>? ♪

1590
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,920
♪<i> Now suddenly you're gone </i>♪

1591
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,000
♪<i> But it doesn't yet really feel </i>♪

1592
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,640
♪<i> As if I can do this </i>♪

1593
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,960
♪<i> Do you think it's easy, perhaps</i>? ♪

1594
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:45,640
♪<i> You're haunting my thoughts </i>♪

1595
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,640
♪<i> Because I still believe in us </i>♪

1596
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,040
♪<i> But weren't we gold? </i>♪

1597
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:56,080
♪<i> Tell me</i>
<i>What if I can never forget you</i>? ♪

1598
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,320
♪<i> What if I can never forget you</i>? ♪

1599
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,560
[Brigit] How great it is,
as someone from Achterhoek,

1600
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,120
to stand in front of so many people.

1601
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,400
You want to share this
with the people you hold dear.

1602
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:13,560
[crowd cheering]

1603
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,400
[Brigit] To see Suzan and Freek
and all those people…

1604
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:18,560
[Freek] Where are all my people
from The Achterhoek?

1605
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:19,560
[crowd cheers]

1606
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,040
Great, yeah? Nice.

1607
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:23,840
We also try

1608
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,160
to involve family and friends a bit more.

1609
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,200
That's maybe because
we found it more challenging before,

1610
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,720
and then you don't let other people in

1611
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:38,040
because you think, I'm busy enough
with making sure it's all good.

1612
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,000
Now we have the space and the control

1613
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:45,240
to let friends and family
literally stand next to us on stage

1614
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:46,520
and watch along.

1615
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,160
And I'm very happy with that.

1616
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,720
Then the two worlds blend together more.

1617
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,040
Zwarte Cross,
may I have your loudest applause

1618
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,800
for none other than Snelle!

1619
01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:59,640
[shouts]

1620
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,520
This is such a moment of realization
for all three of us

1621
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,760
that we're up here in front of you
today at the Zwarte Cross.

1622
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,480
The best festival of the year.

1623
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,160
[Snelle] The fields
are packed full everywhere.

1624
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,480
It's a 60-minute set,

1625
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,960
and there's only one song
where you might not know a few lines.

1626
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,920
For the rest, everyone sings along,
because they're the biggest right now.

1627
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,560
-[crowd singing along]
-♪ <i>It's quiet here on the other side</i> ♪

1628
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,440
♪ <i>But I come from here</i> ♪

1629
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,680
♪ <i>Where your bike can be left</i> ♪

1630
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,560
♪ <i>By the roadside unlocked</i> ♪

1631
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,880
♪ <i>It's quiet here on the other side…</i> ♪

1632
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,080
You can be louder.
As out of tune as you can.

1633
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,320
♪ <i>It's quiet here on the other side</i>… ♪

1634
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,400
-[Snelle] More off-key and louder.
-[Freek] Come on.

1635
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,440
♪ <i>It's quiet here on the other side</i>… ♪

1636
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,720
-[Snelle] We're almost there.
-[Freek] Yeah!

1637
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,720
♪ <i>It's quiet here on the other side</i>… ♪

1638
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,720
[Snelle] Zwarte Cross, let me hear you!

1639
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,520
♪ <i>It's quiet here on the other side</i> ♪

1640
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,120
♪ <i>But I come from here</i> ♪

1641
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,680
♪ <i>Where your bike can be left</i> ♪

1642
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,520
♪ <i>By the roadside unlocked</i> ♪

1643
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,920
[all clapping along to beat]

1644
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,600
[crowd cheering]

1645
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,360
[calm music playing]

1646
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:19,720
[Suzan] I think
that we did dream of it, yes.

1647
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,720
I never thought that we would do this.

1648
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,520
I always thought
I had to do something really special.

1649
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,040
And I'm simply doing the same as always,

1650
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,200
and suddenly I can live
from the music alone.

1651
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,920
[Freek] Yes, I'm happy
with where we are now and who we are.

1652
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,560
We belong there now.

1653
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,560
Before, I thought
we were simply visitors, you know?

1654
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,360
As if everyone had made a mistake.

1655
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:48,320
They didn't realize
that we were standing among them.

1656
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:54,120
Now, after corona,
I feel more like we belong there.

1657
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,200
That it suddenly got so big,
I had never… thought about it.

1658
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,320
And I think it's really great.

1659
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,480
[Freek] Zwarte Crossers!

1660
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,200
We love you!

1661
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,600
[loud whooshing]

1662
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:13,960
["Dromen In Kleur"
by Suzan & Freek playing]

1663
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,280
WITH SPECIAL THANKS TO
SUZAN & FREEK

1664
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,920
♪ <i>I look around me</i> ♪

1665
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,000
♪ <i>And see the same street</i> ♪

1666
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,520
♪ <i>But it suddenly feels as if</i> ♪

1667
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,920
♪ <i>There is a new light here</i> ♪

1668
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,840
♪ <i>For all my life</i> ♪

1669
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,920
♪ <i>I passed it by</i> ♪

1670
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,280
♪ <i>But what I never saw</i> ♪

1671
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,400
♪ <i>You now release in me</i> ♪

1672
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,800
♪ <i>That it can be so beautiful here</i> ♪

1673
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,480
♪ <i>Do you feel the light</i>… ♪

1674
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,320
And it has become our work,
but in this room, it feels

1675
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,440
as if we're still
doing it for fun, which is true.

1676
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,240
[Freek] I've never told Suzan
that we earn money from it.

1677
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,960
-Keep it that way.
-Yeah. [laughing]

1678
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,560
Last week you were wearing a body warmer.
What was that?

1679
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,200
Was that a statement or something?
What was it?

1680
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,200
I thought, that can't be true.

1681
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,520
Why did you do that? Now you mention it.

1682
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,280
-What was that?
-[Freek] You can do that. It's hip.

1683
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,960
-Is it really hip?
-[Freek] Yes, it's hip.

1684
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,560
I sometimes lag behind,
but I thought, Freek!

1685
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,960
-Is it really hip?
-Yes, it's really hip.

1686
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:18,920
[Brigit] Yes?

1687
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,880
[both laughing]

1688
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,520
[Brigit] Also, the shoes
with those narrow trousers

1689
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:30,000
and that large jacket.
I thought, why? [laughing]

1690
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,640
Why is everyone
wearing such a large jacket?

1691
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,320
-[Freek] If you like it, you should do it.
-No, but yes. Okay.

1692
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,880
[crowd cheering]

1693
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:43,560
[Freek sighs]

1694
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,840
-A little tent, or not?
-[all laughing]

1695
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,000
-Cheers, guys.
-Yeah, guys.

1696
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,760
There's a fly near you all the time.

1697
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,840
-Did you wash?
-[laughs] Wash?

1698
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:53,360
Dung fly.

1699
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,640
♪ <i>But it is real</i> ♪

1700
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,360
♪ <i>Since you are here</i> ♪

1701
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:05,600
♪<i> I see everything differently</i>
<i>To how I know it </i>♪

1702
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,000
♪<i> Hope that it never goes </i>♪

1703
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,000
♪<i> Because we dream in color </i>♪

1704
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,680
♪<i> Everything seems </i>♪

1705
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:29,400
♪<i> More beautiful</i>, <i>now I'm looking </i>♪

1706
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,520
♪<i> With you </i>♪

1707
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,880
♪<i> Can you feel the light? </i>♪

1708
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,960
♪<i> Can you taste the mist</i>? ♪

1709
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:43,520
♪ <i>Easy to say that it's unreal</i> ♪

1710
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,840
<i>-</i>♪<i> Can you feel the light? </i>♪
<i>-</i>♪<i> Can you feel the light? </i>♪

1711
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,560
<i>-</i>♪<i> Can you taste the mist? </i>♪
<i>-</i>♪<i> Can you taste the mist? </i>♪

1712
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,320
<i>-</i>♪<i> Since you are here </i>♪
<i>-</i>♪<i> Since you are here </i>♪

1713
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,920
♪ <i>Hope that it never goes</i> ♪

1714
01:23:57,440 --> 01:24:00,240
♪ <i>Because we dream in color</i> ♪

1715
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,480
Subtitle translation by: Adam Dean



