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[skateboard wheels rumbling]

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[thumping and sliding]

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[bearings whirring softly]

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[footsteps]

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- [softly]
Damn it.

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[breathing heavily]

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Fuck!

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Fuck!

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[screams]

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[bearings whirring softly]

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[meditative ambient music]

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♪ ♪

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I'm willing to struggle
through the learning process,

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even change my approach

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just to figure out
how to do it.

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♪ ♪

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I never want to back down
from a challenge.

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♪ ♪

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If you're convinced
that you're going to fail,

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that will come to fruition.

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♪ ♪

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I was willing to get hurt
along the way,

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but I didn't visualize myself
getting hurt along the way.

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♪ ♪

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I always approached it like,
"This is going to work."

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"I'm going
to figure this out."

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[soft dramatic music]

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♪ ♪

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My mom used to like
to tell the story

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that when she would
play tennis with me,

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I would purposely just try
to hit her with the balls.

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♪ ♪

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She scolded me at one point.

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She's like,

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"I think you're trying
to hit me, Tony.

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"I'm not going to play
with you

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if you're just trying
to hurt me."

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♪ ♪

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I don't know
what my disorder was,

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but I was
definitely difficult.

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I was determined
to have my way

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to the point of being
very combative.

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My mom would say that I was--

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she just said
I was very determined.

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♪ ♪

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I was really young,

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but I remember my mom was
so frustrated with me

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'cause I just wouldn't do
what she said.

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I wanted to do something,
I wanted to do something else,

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I--and she finally just said,

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"If you don't
stop being difficult,

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I'm going to flush myself
down the toilet."

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I didn't believe it,
I didn't care, I didn't quit,

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and she went in the bathroom
and flushed the toilet and hid.

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She watched me lean over,
the toilet is swirling, going,

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"My mommy!"

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[chuckles]

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- I think she is
in the beauty parlor.

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- Oh, really?

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both: Hi.

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- I'm gonna pull her out
whenever she's done.

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- Okay.

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- All right, thank you.

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- Thank you.
Bye-bye.

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- Hi, Mom.

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Hi, Mom, it's Tony.

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How are you?

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How have you been?
You look good.

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I leave for Montreal next week

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for another one
of those skate contests.

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Keegan is turning 18
in a couple weeks...

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Which is
a frightening prospect.

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And then once Calvin is out,
we only have Kady.

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It's gonna be crazy.

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But I guess by that time,

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the older kids will move
back in.

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[laughs]
Isn't that what they do?

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Maybe not.
Your kids didn't.

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'Cause you taught us
to be independent.

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[gentle piano music]

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♪ ♪

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It was always a big deal

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that my mom was 43
when she had me.

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People would say,

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"Oh, she's much older,"
you know?

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And, "There are lots of risks
involved."

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- Tony and I are
20 years apart.

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I was a junior in college

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when my mom told me
she was pregnant.

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- I was a senior
in high school.

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All of Tony's siblings,
including me, we're older.

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- I'm 12 1/2 years older
than Tony,

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so when he was young,
especially,

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our relationship
was almost as much...

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paternal as fraternal.

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- I was basically
an only child,

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and my parents were old enough
to be my grandparents.

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- He was stuck at home
with my mom and dad

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at a time when their marriage
wasn't so great.

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- My dad wasn't working a lot.

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He had been retired
from the Navy

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and kind of finding his way.

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- My brother was a surfer.

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He drove him, you know,
dawn patrol to get the waves.

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My sister was a singer.

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He was hauling
all their band gear.

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He was the coach
of our baseball team.

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The first time I ever
went to bat in Little League,

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I was probably
about eight or nine.

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I knew I was gonna hit it.
I was gonna get a home run.

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Failure was not an option.

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I didn't even consider what
would happen if I struck out.

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And then I remember
striking out

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and thinking
the world had ended.

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I always felt
a little misplaced

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in all of those sports.

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I couldn't do
the physical things

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that most of my peers could do

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because they were bigger
and they were stronger,

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and so I was always
just feeling uncomfortable

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and kind of disappointed
in myself.

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- People would say,
"Oh, you have adult children,

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and you have--
and you have Tony?"

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She goes, "Yeah,
he's our little mistake."

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- I really do think
that that played a role

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in his, um...his psyche.

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That she would have had
an abortion if she could have

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in some ways, I think,

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maybe made him want
to prove himself.

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- Bye, Mom. I love you.
We'll see you soon, okay?

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- [speaking indistinctly]

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- Thanks for the visit.
Enjoy your lunch.

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Do you see me now?

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[sighs]

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My mom was always careful
with her words,

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always positive.

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And then, I think, one day,

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I was just pushing her buttons,

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and she's like, "You know,
you're just full of it.

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You're just full of it, Tony.
Full of it."

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I'm like, "What?"
She goes, "You're full of...

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"shit.

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You're full of shit."

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And I was like...

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- Tony was a bit of a dick
when he was little.

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Stubborn as fuck.

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He and my dad
would bicker like crazy.

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I got along
with Tony way better

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when it was just
the two of us.

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So I would often go off--
we'd go off,

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go to the beach
or go someplace.

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- And I remember
he and his friend were skating

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in the alleyway,

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and there was
another skateboard,

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this older one
that was just sitting there,

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and I said,
"Well, can I try that one?"

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I just was going down
the alley,

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yelling back, "How do I turn?
How do I turn?"

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And then I eventually
ran into the fence.

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It wasn't like the skies parted

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and there was
some great revelation.

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It was more like,
"Oh, this is hard."

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[upbeat surf rock music]

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- You know, that skateboard has
gone on to be kind of a thing.

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It's now--we--
it's in the Smithsonian.

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- Freedom.

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I'm moving fast,
but I'm in control

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and I'm flowing.

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I could just
cruise the landscape.

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Going down hills.

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Terrible ramps
in our driveway.

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Everything about it
spoke to me.

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- He just needed focus,

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and so when he started
focusing and skateboarding,

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he changed.

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♪ ♪

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- He just calmed down.

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He just walked
through the world

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with a lot more kind of
maturity and generosity.

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- The main skate park
in San Diego was called Oasis.

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It was just under
a freeway overpass.

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And we would see it,
and it was like,

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"Oh, there's Oasis."

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Older kids going way faster

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than I had ever seen
anyone on a skateboard.

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And it just looked
scary as hell.

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There were these five craters,

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and I was going
down the crater and up

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and then down the crater
and up,

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and I thought
that was super cool.

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And this big kid
came flying up,

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and he jumped
over the middle crater,

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and I was like,
"How did that just happen?"

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I just couldn't believe
what I saw,

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and I said, "Oh, this is it.

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I'm doing this.
This is my life."

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I quit playing baseball
and basketball.

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♪ ♪

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- I remember once
when I was home from college,

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my mom asked me
to go pick him up

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at the Oasis skate park

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because dinner
was almost ready.

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So I was just gonna run
down there and grab him,

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but he was in the process

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of learning
frontside rock and rolls.

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And he was getting close,
and so of course,

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you know, the closer you get,
the more you slam, and--

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but he was young enough

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where he was actually crying,
I think, over this.

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And I'm like,
"Tony, come on, we got to go."

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And he's like,
"I'm gonna make"--

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Just, I wasn't even there,
you know?

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And then finally, he made one
clean and rolled away.

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And it was like
everything kind of lifted.

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And he didn't, like, run over
and give me a high five.

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It was like--
[sighs] "Okay."

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And I've seen that
in him a bunch

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when he's learning something.

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He'll get really pissed off,

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and then as soon
as he makes it,

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he's back to being his nice,
normal Tony Hawk self.

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[Free's "All Right Now"]

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♪ ♪

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- ♪ Oh, whoa, whoa ♪

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♪ ♪

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- I knew of Stacy's name
because of the Dogtown crew.

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And so I knew
more of his reputation

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than his skating.

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- Stacy had been there.

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You know,
he'd blazed the trail.

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He had been a pro.

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He knew
what that was all about.

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- He was just
this iconic figure.

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He formed the Bones Brigade.

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- ♪ Baby, it's all right now ♪

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♪ ♪

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- He just seemed like
this sort of--

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I wouldn't say father figure,

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but definitely a figurehead
of skateboarding.

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♪ ♪

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- I was a fixture at every one
of these contests.

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I was at every pro contest.

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I was at every
amateur contest.

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♪ ♪

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Tony did not display

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any physical talent.

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You could watch Tony
as a 13-year-old kid

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and go, "Dime a dozen,"

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because he was so weak
and so skinny

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that he skated as if he was
being operated by a puppeteer.

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He was just this kind of,
like, guy like this.

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But the one thing
that he did have is,

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you could see in this
little weakling of a kid

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00:15:42,232 --> 00:15:45,819
this intense determination.

260
00:15:45,903 --> 00:15:48,364
You could see in there,
there was a mind going,

261
00:15:48,447 --> 00:15:50,366
"Do this! Do this!"

262
00:15:50,449 --> 00:15:53,369
[Echo & the Bunnymen's
"Never Stop"]

263
00:15:53,452 --> 00:15:54,870
♪ ♪

264
00:15:54,953 --> 00:15:56,163
- One time,
I was at the skate park,

265
00:15:56,246 --> 00:15:57,873
and the Bones Brigade
showed up.

266
00:15:57,956 --> 00:15:59,416
And you just knew it
immediately.

267
00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:01,251
Like, there was a hush
in the skate park.

268
00:16:01,335 --> 00:16:07,341
♪ ♪

269
00:16:08,425 --> 00:16:10,219
Everyone on the team
were considered

270
00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:11,553
some of the best skaters.

271
00:16:11,637 --> 00:16:13,389
And Stacy was walking in
with these guys,

272
00:16:13,472 --> 00:16:16,058
and they all had these, like,
cool-colored helmets

273
00:16:16,141 --> 00:16:18,560
and their Bones Brigade
shirts.

274
00:16:18,644 --> 00:16:21,772
And I was just like,
"This is the future."

275
00:16:21,855 --> 00:16:23,732
- I remember Stacy was
at the park, and I'm like,

276
00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:26,527
"Hey, is there any way I can
get on your guys' thing?"

277
00:16:26,610 --> 00:16:29,071
Like, "Hey, man,

278
00:16:29,154 --> 00:16:32,199
"I think you should just
stick with G&S.

279
00:16:32,282 --> 00:16:34,034
You'd be better on them, man."

280
00:16:34,118 --> 00:16:38,205
He probably had the vision
of the Brigade right then.

281
00:16:38,288 --> 00:16:41,625
And maybe he was like,
"It's not gonna work, dog."

282
00:16:41,709 --> 00:16:44,712
- Stacy was gonna get
his own little phenoms

283
00:16:44,795 --> 00:16:46,547
and younger guys
and build it up.

284
00:16:46,630 --> 00:16:48,549
So I was like, "Wow,
I can get on the team."

285
00:16:48,632 --> 00:16:53,512
♪ ♪

286
00:16:53,595 --> 00:16:54,805
- You know, Stacy Peralta

287
00:16:54,888 --> 00:16:58,934
was a cool kind of,
like, mentor

288
00:16:59,017 --> 00:17:02,271
for me at 12 years old
riding for Bones Brigade.

289
00:17:02,354 --> 00:17:03,564
There came a point
where I was like,

290
00:17:03,647 --> 00:17:04,982
"I want to turn pro."

291
00:17:05,065 --> 00:17:07,609
Stacy was like,
"No, you're not ready."

292
00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:09,570
- I lost Christian Hosoi.

293
00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:12,030
His dad didn't think I was
moving his career along

294
00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:14,575
fast enough,
so I had a vacancy.

295
00:17:14,658 --> 00:17:16,994
And I had been watching Tony.

296
00:17:17,077 --> 00:17:20,497
- He kind of summoned me
to Marina del Rey.

297
00:17:20,581 --> 00:17:22,875
My brother offered
to drive me up there.

298
00:17:22,958 --> 00:17:25,627
We got up there, he handed me
this experimental

299
00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:28,297
Steve Caballero
model skateboard,

300
00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:31,341
and I just started skating,
and I jumped the channel.

301
00:17:31,425 --> 00:17:34,178
And that was no small feat
to jump the Marina channel.

302
00:17:34,261 --> 00:17:35,471
That thing was big.

303
00:17:35,554 --> 00:17:36,972
And basically, he said,

304
00:17:37,055 --> 00:17:38,474
"If you want to be
on the Bones Brigade,

305
00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:40,267
we'd love to have you."

306
00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:42,519
- He realized
this kid's got grit.

307
00:17:42,603 --> 00:17:43,812
He doesn't give up.

308
00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:46,899
He's also really skilled.

309
00:17:46,982 --> 00:17:48,901
He's also gonna get bigger
and get stronger.

310
00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:51,945
- ♪ Measure by measure,
drop by drop ♪

311
00:17:52,029 --> 00:17:55,449
♪ And pound for pound,
we're taking stock ♪

312
00:17:55,532 --> 00:17:59,119
♪ Of all the treasure
still unlocked ♪

313
00:17:59,203 --> 00:18:02,623
♪ The love you found
must never ♪

314
00:18:02,706 --> 00:18:05,292
♪ Measure by measure ♪

315
00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:08,003
- When I was officially
on the team of Powell,

316
00:18:08,086 --> 00:18:10,881
that was way scarier
than anything else,

317
00:18:10,964 --> 00:18:13,634
where it was suddenly like
I was on this next level

318
00:18:13,717 --> 00:18:18,138
of team, of ability,
of belief,

319
00:18:18,222 --> 00:18:22,267
and I had so much more
to prove.

320
00:18:22,351 --> 00:18:24,520
- The first time I saw Tony,
I was like,

321
00:18:24,603 --> 00:18:26,313
"Look at this little kid."

322
00:18:26,396 --> 00:18:30,526
He was probably, I don't know,
60 pounds wet, maybe.

323
00:18:30,609 --> 00:18:31,819
- We were in a hot tub.

324
00:18:31,902 --> 00:18:35,531
We were hazing him like
he's the new guy on the team.

325
00:18:35,614 --> 00:18:37,115
I said, "Hey, dude,
if you want to--you know,

326
00:18:37,199 --> 00:18:38,367
"if you want to be
part of the crew,

327
00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:40,244
you're gonna have
to give me your gum."

328
00:18:40,327 --> 00:18:42,704
And I stuck it
in between my toes.

329
00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:44,122
And then I gave it back to him.

330
00:18:44,206 --> 00:18:45,666
I go, "You're gonna have
to chew this gum

331
00:18:45,749 --> 00:18:47,000
if you want to be
part of the crew."

332
00:18:47,084 --> 00:18:48,836
And he did.
[laughs]

333
00:18:48,919 --> 00:18:50,003
- Now with Tony Hawk.

334
00:18:50,087 --> 00:18:51,380
Tony just finished
that first round.

335
00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:53,382
Do you think you're gonna make
the next cut to eight?

336
00:18:53,465 --> 00:18:55,342
- Uh, I think I have
a pretty good chance,

337
00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:57,177
because I stayed on my board,

338
00:18:57,261 --> 00:18:59,263
and that's pretty tough
to do in a competition.

339
00:18:59,346 --> 00:19:02,140
- Who do you think your
competition's gonna be today?

340
00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:04,768
- Uh, probably--
I'm gonna have a tough time

341
00:19:04,852 --> 00:19:06,770
beating pretty much anyone
who entered.

342
00:19:06,854 --> 00:19:10,858
Mainly Lance Mountain,
Mike McGill, Stevie Caballero.

343
00:19:10,941 --> 00:19:13,861
[gentle upbeat acoustic music]

344
00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:17,197
♪ ♪

345
00:19:17,281 --> 00:19:20,367
- He was a nightmare.
Total nightmare.

346
00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:22,202
[chuckling]
Complete, total nightmare.

347
00:19:22,286 --> 00:19:24,913
I remember when I first
picked him up on the team,

348
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,832
we were at
the Upland skateboard park,

349
00:19:26,915 --> 00:19:28,375
and I said, "Well,
I'm gonna take you home."

350
00:19:28,458 --> 00:19:30,878
And he goes, "No, I want
to go to Chuck E. Cheese."

351
00:19:30,961 --> 00:19:31,962
And I go, "What's that?"

352
00:19:32,045 --> 00:19:33,922
He goes, "I want to go
to Chuck E. Cheese."

353
00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:35,090
And I go, "Yeah, what is it?"

354
00:19:35,173 --> 00:19:36,842
He goes, "It's a pizza place
where you can play games."

355
00:19:36,925 --> 00:19:38,552
I go, "I'm not going there."

356
00:19:38,635 --> 00:19:41,597
- [laughing]

357
00:19:43,891 --> 00:19:45,100
It was a Chuck E. Cheese.

358
00:19:45,183 --> 00:19:46,727
I know what he's talking about.

359
00:19:46,810 --> 00:19:49,605
[laughing]

360
00:19:52,816 --> 00:19:55,569
There was a--
I'm a creature of habit,

361
00:19:55,652 --> 00:19:57,571
and so when we would
go skate Upland,

362
00:19:57,654 --> 00:19:58,864
there were only
a few restaurants

363
00:19:58,947 --> 00:20:02,951
that I would allow myself
to go to.

364
00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:04,995
And Lamppost Pizza
was one of them.

365
00:20:05,078 --> 00:20:07,414
Like, a mild version
of Chuck E. Cheese.

366
00:20:07,497 --> 00:20:10,459
It was lots of games
and counter service.

367
00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:13,962
And they weren't known
for their cuisine.

368
00:20:14,046 --> 00:20:15,714
- He got me to take him there.

369
00:20:15,797 --> 00:20:17,507
It was the worst nightmare
of my life,

370
00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:19,134
but I'm sitting there going,

371
00:20:19,217 --> 00:20:21,720
"This 13-year-old brat
just got me to do something

372
00:20:21,803 --> 00:20:23,347
"I was firmly against doing.

373
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:25,140
He's got some power."

374
00:20:25,223 --> 00:20:27,643
Just the décor and the sounds

375
00:20:27,726 --> 00:20:30,604
and all the awful food.

376
00:20:30,687 --> 00:20:33,523
And I remember just thinking,
"I'm never doing this again.

377
00:20:33,607 --> 00:20:36,360
I'm never coming back
to this place again."

378
00:20:36,443 --> 00:20:37,778
- Stacy had the worst job.

379
00:20:37,861 --> 00:20:39,696
I mean, he was--

380
00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:41,406
he curated this awesome team,

381
00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:43,075
but we were all kids
in our own right,

382
00:20:43,158 --> 00:20:45,619
and we're all
with our own issues

383
00:20:45,702 --> 00:20:49,331
and looking for validation,
looking for support.

384
00:20:49,414 --> 00:20:53,377
And suddenly, he had to be
this surrogate dad.

385
00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:55,337
- I think the first time
I saw Tony skate

386
00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:58,131
was at Kona Skatepark.

387
00:20:58,215 --> 00:21:00,717
I had just gotten on the team,

388
00:21:00,801 --> 00:21:03,428
and they all came
from out west.

389
00:21:03,512 --> 00:21:05,222
And I remember meeting him,

390
00:21:05,305 --> 00:21:06,848
and I was so--
[laughs]

391
00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:09,351
I tripped out
because of how skinny he was.

392
00:21:09,434 --> 00:21:11,478
It was as though he had
a hard time

393
00:21:11,561 --> 00:21:13,146
getting up the wall.

394
00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:16,900
But the control he had
was insane.

395
00:21:17,734 --> 00:21:21,446
Immediately, you got a sense
that he's entirely different.

396
00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:25,826
- Rodney Mullen, like,
he and I were on

397
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:29,162
complete parallel trajectories
with our skating.

398
00:21:29,246 --> 00:21:32,791
Rodney was the absolute best
freestyler in the world,

399
00:21:32,874 --> 00:21:37,379
a precision level
like no other athlete

400
00:21:37,462 --> 00:21:41,049
or performer you've ever seen.

401
00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:44,386
- Because we skated
completely different,

402
00:21:44,469 --> 00:21:47,806
that made it easier for me
to relate to him, in a sense.

403
00:21:47,889 --> 00:21:50,225
I never had to compete
against Tony.

404
00:21:50,308 --> 00:21:53,270
[soft rock music]

405
00:21:53,353 --> 00:21:54,563
♪ ♪

406
00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:57,190
Stacy would ship me down,
and I would stay with Tony,

407
00:21:57,274 --> 00:21:59,693
practice for the week
at Del Mar.

408
00:21:59,776 --> 00:22:04,197
That's when a real sense
of connection, for me,

409
00:22:04,281 --> 00:22:06,575
I had with Tony
more than any other skater.

410
00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:09,870
♪ ♪

411
00:22:09,953 --> 00:22:11,538
- No one understood us.

412
00:22:13,123 --> 00:22:14,750
But we understood each other.

413
00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:21,840
♪ ♪

414
00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:28,305
- I think watching Tony learn
and fall

415
00:22:28,388 --> 00:22:31,224
is more interesting
than watching him land tricks,

416
00:22:31,308 --> 00:22:34,144
because you can see
how fast he rifles

417
00:22:34,227 --> 00:22:36,730
to something called
the calculus of variations,

418
00:22:36,813 --> 00:22:38,732
of how he corrects himself

419
00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:41,568
and gets
to the right spot fast.

420
00:22:41,651 --> 00:22:45,614
That, to this day,
is unparalleled.

421
00:22:45,697 --> 00:22:49,743
- Tony was able to figure out
how to overcome

422
00:22:49,826 --> 00:22:51,745
all of the things
he didn't have

423
00:22:51,828 --> 00:22:53,747
in order to get what he wanted.

424
00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:55,248
For instance,

425
00:22:55,332 --> 00:22:57,417
when skateboarders
originally did aerials,

426
00:22:57,501 --> 00:22:59,086
they'd go up
the side of the pool,

427
00:22:59,169 --> 00:23:00,712
and they'd pull the board off

428
00:23:00,796 --> 00:23:02,798
and kind of do
a leap into the air.

429
00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:04,132
Tony couldn't do that.

430
00:23:04,216 --> 00:23:06,843
He didn't have
the strength to leap.

431
00:23:06,927 --> 00:23:10,055
Most guys touch the board,
grab it, leap into the air.

432
00:23:10,138 --> 00:23:13,767
Tony figures out,
"I'll ollie into my aerials."

433
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:16,812
He doesn't touch the board
until he's in the air.

434
00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:18,313
You never break your speed.

435
00:23:18,396 --> 00:23:20,107
It's one bang.

436
00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:22,484
Well, we discover
it's much more efficient

437
00:23:22,567 --> 00:23:23,944
to do it that way.

438
00:23:25,028 --> 00:23:26,613
- When I figured that out,

439
00:23:26,696 --> 00:23:29,282
that changed everything
for me.

440
00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:31,409
I started doing varials
and finger flips

441
00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:32,828
way up in the air.

442
00:23:32,911 --> 00:23:34,663
- But of course,
when he first did it,

443
00:23:34,746 --> 00:23:35,914
people thought he was cheating.

444
00:23:35,997 --> 00:23:37,207
"That's cheating."

445
00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:39,167
It's a technique.
How can you be cheating?

446
00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,461
"It's cheating."
They thought it was cheating.

447
00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:44,673
You know, and at that time,
skateboarding was dominated

448
00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:47,384
by balls-out pool riders,

449
00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:49,344
Duane Peters, people like that

450
00:23:49,427 --> 00:23:52,514
that really had
power and flair.

451
00:23:52,597 --> 00:23:53,890
And here comes Tony Hawk

452
00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:56,101
with all these
weird little flip tricks.

453
00:23:56,184 --> 00:23:59,479
Those guys are looking at him
and going, "What is this?"

454
00:23:59,563 --> 00:24:01,481
- A lot of that shit, dude,
I mean,

455
00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:04,025
I still can't understand it
when I look at it.

456
00:24:04,109 --> 00:24:08,321
It's like fuckin'
flippy doo-da-day bullshit.

457
00:24:08,405 --> 00:24:11,283
Go fucking play
with your sister's baton, bro.

458
00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:13,910
[indistinct chatter]

459
00:24:13,994 --> 00:24:15,162
- Want me to do it again?

460
00:24:15,245 --> 00:24:16,705
- Yeah, go ahead.

461
00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:17,998
Okay.

462
00:24:18,081 --> 00:24:19,416
What do you think
of skateboarding?

463
00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:21,293
- What do I think of it?

464
00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:22,711
Well, I've supported it
pretty strong

465
00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:24,504
for a lot of years.

466
00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:33,889
- Confusion.
- Confusion?

467
00:24:33,972 --> 00:24:35,223
- My dad wanted to make sure

468
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,766
that there was organization
in place,

469
00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:39,895
that if Tony was gonna
be this committed to it,

470
00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:43,023
you know, he could actually
get some recognition for it.

471
00:24:43,106 --> 00:24:45,775
- My dad helped
to form the NSA,

472
00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:48,820
which became
the sanctioning body

473
00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:50,572
for all the main events.

474
00:24:50,655 --> 00:24:53,033
- The NSA was the National
Skateboard Association.

475
00:24:53,116 --> 00:24:55,410
And people used to say,
"No skating allowed."

476
00:24:55,493 --> 00:24:58,538
And especially Mr. Hawk being
the guy who was, you know,

477
00:24:58,622 --> 00:25:00,207
yelling at people
to get off the ramp.

478
00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:02,417
- Do not
come down to the ramp.

479
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,211
Please, get off the ramp.

480
00:25:04,294 --> 00:25:06,922
[cheers and applause]

481
00:25:07,005 --> 00:25:08,465
- He loved yelling at kids.

482
00:25:08,548 --> 00:25:09,925
You know,
"Get behind the barrier!"

483
00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:11,760
[laughing]
He loved doing that.

484
00:25:11,843 --> 00:25:14,971
- He just--he always had
this grimace about him.

485
00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:15,972
Super serious.

486
00:25:16,056 --> 00:25:20,018
Never saw him smile
or laugh about anything.

487
00:25:20,101 --> 00:25:23,104
Just always walking around
kind of like a--

488
00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:24,731
I don't think he drank,
but he seemed like

489
00:25:24,814 --> 00:25:27,108
just a pissed-off alcoholic,
basically.

490
00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:28,902
- He was a bull
in a china shop.

491
00:25:28,985 --> 00:25:32,405
He had no finesse whatsoever.

492
00:25:32,489 --> 00:25:35,408
But he actually had
a really, really good heart.

493
00:25:35,492 --> 00:25:37,827
I mean, he came at a time
in skateboarding

494
00:25:37,911 --> 00:25:39,913
where skateboarding
really needed a guy

495
00:25:39,996 --> 00:25:43,083
like Frank Hawk to say,
"Look at this circus carnival.

496
00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:44,918
We got to focus this
a little bit."

497
00:25:45,001 --> 00:25:46,461
- And this is giving
in those spots,

498
00:25:46,544 --> 00:25:48,171
and they're riding it
and going "uh, uh, uh."

499
00:25:48,255 --> 00:25:49,506
- And he did a remarkable job,

500
00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:50,799
and he didn't get
anything for it

501
00:25:50,882 --> 00:25:52,634
except crap from people.

502
00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:55,887
- He carried around, like,
a little ledger a lot

503
00:25:55,971 --> 00:25:57,597
and was always looking harsh
at people.

504
00:25:59,015 --> 00:26:02,310
- I remember going,
"Fuck you," to his old man.

505
00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:03,853
Like,
"Get the fuck out of here,

506
00:26:03,937 --> 00:26:06,064
"and take these
fucking grubby kids with--

507
00:26:06,147 --> 00:26:07,732
get a fucking job."

508
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:10,193
I'd go across the fence.

509
00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:12,779
"Get a fucking job."
You know.

510
00:26:12,862 --> 00:26:14,698
"Now he wants to bring
his Army shit

511
00:26:14,781 --> 00:26:16,574
to the National
Skateboarding Associ"--

512
00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:18,451
you know, blah, blah.

513
00:26:18,535 --> 00:26:21,997
- He just came off
as gruff and militant,

514
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,082
and they were like,
"Fuck that dude.

515
00:26:24,165 --> 00:26:25,125
That's your dad?"

516
00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:28,169
Like, and that would be
reflected on me.

517
00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:31,506
[Sex Pistols'
"Anarchy in the UK"]

518
00:26:31,589 --> 00:26:33,341
♪ ♪

519
00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:36,511
- Right....now.

520
00:26:36,594 --> 00:26:38,555
[laughs]

521
00:26:38,638 --> 00:26:41,683
- One of the first times
I ever got to skate with pros,

522
00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:45,937
I remember seeing Steve Olson
and Duane Peters,

523
00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:47,981
and, of course,
I knew both of them.

524
00:26:48,064 --> 00:26:49,316
They're heroes.

525
00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:50,984
So I went over
to kind of skate

526
00:26:51,067 --> 00:26:53,194
near the area
they were skating

527
00:26:53,278 --> 00:26:56,406
and kept sort of
inching my way closer to them.

528
00:26:56,489 --> 00:26:59,492
- They were in a bowl,
and we were riding up.

529
00:26:59,576 --> 00:27:04,456
We'd either chase them out
or go to the next one.

530
00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:07,375
- I wanted to be near them.

531
00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:10,045
I wanted to be
skating with them.

532
00:27:10,128 --> 00:27:11,546
- "Fuck this."

533
00:27:11,629 --> 00:27:14,215
I mean, these geeky kids.

534
00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:15,508
"Hey, we want to follow you."

535
00:27:15,592 --> 00:27:17,552
- And they were laughing
about something,

536
00:27:17,635 --> 00:27:18,887
some inside joke.

537
00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:21,222
And I kind of snickered.
"Yeah, yeah," you know?

538
00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:23,058
Like, "Yeah, yeah,"
like I'm in on the joke.

539
00:27:23,141 --> 00:27:27,020
Duane turned towards me,
spit on my grip tape,

540
00:27:27,103 --> 00:27:29,397
and was like,
"This is punk rock, kid."

541
00:27:29,481 --> 00:27:32,859
- I don't remember spitting
on Hawk, but he does.

542
00:27:32,942 --> 00:27:34,527
I did this shit a lot,

543
00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:38,156
especially to guys
that are coming in to--

544
00:27:38,239 --> 00:27:39,657
wanting to be pro.

545
00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:41,576
They're coming in
to take our spots.

546
00:27:41,659 --> 00:27:42,702
Fuck you.

547
00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:45,705
[somber music]

548
00:27:45,789 --> 00:27:51,920
♪ ♪

549
00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:55,423
- It just reminded me
that I don't belong

550
00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:57,175
and this is a mistake

551
00:27:57,258 --> 00:28:01,596
and I can't even fit
into the skateboard world.

552
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:02,931
That was heavy for me.

553
00:28:03,014 --> 00:28:06,810
♪ ♪

554
00:28:06,893 --> 00:28:08,603
- He took a lot of shit.

555
00:28:08,686 --> 00:28:12,232
He got a lot--people fired
a lot of arrows at him.

556
00:28:12,315 --> 00:28:15,068
He never really let on
how much that hurt, I think,

557
00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:17,028
at the time in the skate world.

558
00:28:17,112 --> 00:28:20,156
And he never showed...

559
00:28:22,325 --> 00:28:24,160
Kind of that resentful side

560
00:28:24,244 --> 00:28:26,204
that I'm sure
he must've been feeling.

561
00:28:26,287 --> 00:28:27,914
He just put his head down
and said, "Fuck it.

562
00:28:27,997 --> 00:28:29,749
"I'm gonna skate
as hard as I can,

563
00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:32,168
"I'm gonna get
as good as I can,

564
00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:35,296
"and I'm gonna show
these assholes that, you know,

565
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,798
I'm the best skater
out there."

566
00:28:36,881 --> 00:28:42,053
♪ ♪

567
00:28:42,137 --> 00:28:44,305
- Leading up to this
Whittier contest,

568
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:47,559
November of 1982,

569
00:28:47,642 --> 00:28:51,521
I had just done really well
at the pro versus am event.

570
00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:53,481
All my peers were pro.

571
00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:55,608
And it was like,
"You're next."

572
00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:57,777
At the competition,

573
00:28:57,861 --> 00:28:59,737
we're filling out
the entry forms.

574
00:28:59,821 --> 00:29:01,656
It says "pro or amateur" box.

575
00:29:01,739 --> 00:29:03,992
Like, that determines
which category you're in.

576
00:29:04,075 --> 00:29:07,996
And I remember feeling Stacy
looking over my shoulder.

577
00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:11,291
I just checked pro.

578
00:29:11,374 --> 00:29:13,918
Then I looked up at him,
and I go, "Is that okay?"

579
00:29:14,002 --> 00:29:15,837
And he's like, "If that's
what you want to do."

580
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,505
And then I was pro.

581
00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:19,007
- That was it.
- That was it.

582
00:29:19,090 --> 00:29:20,383
[laughs]

583
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:23,178
There's no--
there's no champagne.

584
00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:25,763
[rock music]

585
00:29:25,847 --> 00:29:30,268
I suddenly felt,
"This is super scary."

586
00:29:30,351 --> 00:29:32,937
Duane Peters is skating.

587
00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:36,441
My first thought was,
"Don't put me against Duane."

588
00:29:36,524 --> 00:29:39,360
- I went against him
on his first contest.

589
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:41,488
- First head-to-head event
as a pro,

590
00:29:41,571 --> 00:29:43,114
I'm going against
Duane Peters.

591
00:29:43,198 --> 00:29:46,326
- This is gonna be easy.
I'm taking this fucker.

592
00:29:46,409 --> 00:29:47,994
- Duane Peters.
These guys go head-on-head.

593
00:29:48,077 --> 00:29:49,162
It's who does better.

594
00:29:50,747 --> 00:29:53,666
[Adolescents'
"Kids of the Black Hole"]

595
00:29:53,750 --> 00:30:00,340
♪ ♪

596
00:30:00,423 --> 00:30:01,341
- Go!

597
00:30:01,424 --> 00:30:08,389
♪ ♪

598
00:30:19,943 --> 00:30:22,195
♪ Kids in a fast lane,
living for today ♪

599
00:30:22,278 --> 00:30:25,281
♪ No rules to abide by
and no one to obey ♪

600
00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:28,868
- I can't see how difficult
these tricks are.

601
00:30:28,952 --> 00:30:31,871
They just look
fucking lame to me.

602
00:30:31,955 --> 00:30:34,874
- I knew for sure he did not
want me to beat him.

603
00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:37,126
My thought was,
"Stay on target.

604
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:39,087
Make your run."

605
00:30:39,170 --> 00:30:41,589
- ♪ House of the filthy,
house not a home ♪

606
00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:44,133
♪ House of destruction
where the lurkers roamed ♪

607
00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:47,303
♪ House that belonged
to all the homeless kids ♪

608
00:30:47,387 --> 00:30:49,764
♪ House of the filthy,
house not a home ♪

609
00:30:49,847 --> 00:30:52,100
♪ House of destruction
where the lurkers roamed ♪

610
00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:54,602
- Tony's dad's all excited.

611
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,604
They're all
by the judging thing.

612
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:57,939
- ♪ Kids of the black hole ♪

613
00:30:58,022 --> 00:31:01,276
♪ ♪

614
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,612
- Tony Hawk beats out
Duane Peters at 86.66.

615
00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:05,738
[cheers and applause]

616
00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:06,739
- I heard the scores,

617
00:31:06,823 --> 00:31:08,700
and it took a second
for it to register.

618
00:31:08,783 --> 00:31:10,910
And I was thinking,
"I beat Duane?

619
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:12,245
"I beat Duane.

620
00:31:12,328 --> 00:31:14,581
I beat Duane!"

621
00:31:14,664 --> 00:31:18,293
- I was an old guy
on his way out.

622
00:31:18,376 --> 00:31:20,169
New crew coming in.

623
00:31:22,338 --> 00:31:26,801
That hurt, and--'cause I was--

624
00:31:26,884 --> 00:31:28,469
all of a sudden,
it mattered to me.

625
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,471
- Was that your last contest?
- Yeah.

626
00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:32,265
Pretty much everybody's, yeah.

627
00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:36,227
[tone hums, static crackles]

628
00:31:36,311 --> 00:31:37,478
- Hi, I'm Bob Burbanks,

629
00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:39,439
and welcome to "Weekend Today."

630
00:31:39,522 --> 00:31:41,691
We're gonna take an exciting
look at skateboarding.

631
00:31:41,774 --> 00:31:44,777
This is a skateboard.
- That's not a skateboard.

632
00:31:44,861 --> 00:31:46,112
- Some neighborhood
daredevils...

633
00:31:46,195 --> 00:31:47,614
- We're gonna do
a little adjusting here.

634
00:31:47,697 --> 00:31:49,449
- Right here
on "Weekend Today."

635
00:31:49,532 --> 00:31:50,491
[glass shatters]

636
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,124
- Now, this is a skateboard.

637
00:31:58,207 --> 00:32:01,169
[The Faction's
"Skate & Destroy"]

638
00:32:01,252 --> 00:32:06,674
♪ ♪

639
00:32:08,259 --> 00:32:11,054
- ♪ Forget the light,
skate and destroy ♪

640
00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:14,349
- Stacy took a chance
putting out money

641
00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:16,768
to make a video
of skateboarding.

642
00:32:17,935 --> 00:32:20,021
- We originally made
the Bones Brigade videos

643
00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:22,940
thinking that skateboard shops
would play them.

644
00:32:23,024 --> 00:32:24,317
And then, we didn't realize,

645
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,069
but the release
of the first one

646
00:32:26,152 --> 00:32:29,947
coincided with 70%
of Americans buying VCRs.

647
00:32:31,658 --> 00:32:32,867
- I think a lot of people,

648
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:34,535
that's where
they first saw me.

649
00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:38,206
[upbeat rock music]

650
00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:40,083
- And it also coincided

651
00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:43,211
when Tony started
to get strong.

652
00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:45,588
- That was when Tony
first kind of came in

653
00:32:45,672 --> 00:32:47,090
as this wunderkind.

654
00:32:47,173 --> 00:32:49,717
So when the first
Bones Brigade video came out,

655
00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:52,970
which was the first
action sports video ever made,

656
00:32:53,054 --> 00:32:54,931
Tony was on the cover.

657
00:32:55,014 --> 00:32:56,891
- It was so fun to see it.

658
00:32:56,974 --> 00:32:58,559
It was so fun to see everyone

659
00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:01,229
separately but together
in the same video.

660
00:33:01,312 --> 00:33:03,481
And Lance was the thread
that brought it all in.

661
00:33:03,564 --> 00:33:06,859
And when I saw my part,
I thought it was super cool.

662
00:33:06,943 --> 00:33:09,028
I just couldn't believe
that he had managed

663
00:33:09,112 --> 00:33:11,239
to make it all work together.

664
00:33:11,322 --> 00:33:13,616
And he's putting things
in slo-mo.

665
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,493
I mean, it just felt like--

666
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,161
like it was my birthday party.

667
00:33:17,245 --> 00:33:19,831
[laughs]

668
00:33:19,914 --> 00:33:22,875
[indistinct chatter]

669
00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:30,925
- Caballero and Tony were
always in the top five,

670
00:33:31,008 --> 00:33:32,927
and I was kind of
fading a bit, you know?

671
00:33:33,010 --> 00:33:35,388
And I was just finding it
harder and harder

672
00:33:35,471 --> 00:33:37,098
to get up into that top ten.

673
00:33:37,181 --> 00:33:39,225
And I'm like, "Oh, I guess
this is it for me.

674
00:33:39,308 --> 00:33:41,519
I need something,
you know, that's"--

675
00:33:41,602 --> 00:33:43,604
so I started going
to some of these camps,

676
00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:45,565
you know, helping to teach.

677
00:33:45,648 --> 00:33:49,527
And at one Swedish camp,
I, you know, made this trick

678
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:53,239
called the McTwist,
which is a 540.

679
00:33:53,322 --> 00:33:56,117
People would ask me,
"What is that, Mike?"

680
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,620
- Mike McGill came
to a Del Mar contest,

681
00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:02,749
and there was all this buzz
that he had a new trick.

682
00:34:02,832 --> 00:34:06,461
And people were purposely
not telling me what it was,

683
00:34:06,544 --> 00:34:09,380
because they thought somehow
I was gonna learn it.

684
00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:13,342
Mike shows up,
and first day of practice,

685
00:34:13,426 --> 00:34:14,510
he does a McTwist.

686
00:34:14,594 --> 00:34:16,637
[tense music]

687
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:19,474
Full 1 1/2 somersault
in the air,

688
00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:22,268
coming down forward,
going backside direction,

689
00:34:22,351 --> 00:34:25,605
which means you're totally
blind to your landing zone.

690
00:34:25,688 --> 00:34:28,399
And it was just like,
"What happened?

691
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:31,778
Were you training
with gymnasts?"

692
00:34:31,861 --> 00:34:33,279
I knew then and there

693
00:34:33,362 --> 00:34:35,281
that I was gonna have
to learn it.

694
00:34:35,364 --> 00:34:38,409
- There's a few tricks that
have been chased for years.

695
00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:40,661
And it was one that everyone
knew could be possible,

696
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:42,288
but no one knew how to do it

697
00:34:42,371 --> 00:34:45,082
or try it or even have
the guts to try it right.

698
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:47,210
And it took McGill to do it,
which was,

699
00:34:47,293 --> 00:34:48,753
you got to do it 6 foot out.

700
00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:50,004
You can't do it low.

701
00:34:50,087 --> 00:34:52,381
Everyone was trying it low
to figure it out.

702
00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:55,510
And you had to have the actual
wherewithal to, like,

703
00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:58,221
"Oh, I've got to launch
into the sky

704
00:34:58,304 --> 00:34:59,931
and see what happens."

705
00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:01,557
- That kind of spiraled me

706
00:35:01,641 --> 00:35:05,770
and put me in the top five
every contest.

707
00:35:05,853 --> 00:35:07,230
- You developed the McTwist.

708
00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:08,815
Are you gonna be able to
pull that off here in this--

709
00:35:08,898 --> 00:35:10,608
- Uh, hopefully.

710
00:35:10,691 --> 00:35:12,610
- When I did try it,

711
00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:15,279
I realized
how much harder it is

712
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:16,781
than I thought it would be.

713
00:35:16,864 --> 00:35:18,991
I didn't come close.

714
00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:20,827
I couldn't see
my landing zone.

715
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:23,663
I don't even know if I had
a good hold on my board.

716
00:35:23,746 --> 00:35:25,832
- I can imagine how hard
you slam on that trick,

717
00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:27,208
'cause you're just
spinning freely,

718
00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:29,585
and if you overturn,
it's done, dude.

719
00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:32,672
♪ ♪

720
00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:36,217
- I was hyper-focused,
obsessed with the trick.

721
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,386
I had to figure it out.

722
00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:40,513
I remember being in school

723
00:35:40,596 --> 00:35:43,432
and just knowing
the bell's gonna ring

724
00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:44,725
and I'm going
straight to the park

725
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:45,893
and trying McTwists.

726
00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:48,646
That was the only thing
I was focused on.

727
00:35:48,729 --> 00:35:51,607
I started getting the spin
more consistent.

728
00:35:51,691 --> 00:35:53,860
I started seeing
the landing zone,

729
00:35:53,943 --> 00:35:55,528
and then it was
pretty obvious, like,

730
00:35:55,611 --> 00:35:57,238
well, there's only
one more stage,

731
00:35:57,321 --> 00:36:00,324
and that's just that you got
to suck it up and land.

732
00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:01,909
- How hard was that trick
to learn?

733
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:02,952
- Simple.

734
00:36:03,035 --> 00:36:04,620
- Simple?
- Mm-hmm.

735
00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:07,039
It's not technique.
It's balls.

736
00:36:07,123 --> 00:36:08,332
And I have no problem
spinning it,

737
00:36:08,416 --> 00:36:10,501
but do I want to set it down?

738
00:36:10,585 --> 00:36:13,379
That's all just guts.

739
00:36:13,462 --> 00:36:16,382
[The Clash's
"Somebody Got Murdered"]

740
00:36:16,465 --> 00:36:23,431
♪ ♪

741
00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:34,066
- The 540 was the trick

742
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:35,568
that you needed
to win competitions,

743
00:36:35,651 --> 00:36:37,194
and once you learned
that trick,

744
00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:38,654
you were in top three.

745
00:36:38,738 --> 00:36:40,698
- Did you attempt them?

746
00:36:40,781 --> 00:36:42,408
- I thought about doing them.

747
00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:46,245
And then I did some low stuff
like Tony used to do.

748
00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:47,455
And I just started trying to--

749
00:36:47,538 --> 00:36:48,998
and it was just like, "No way."

750
00:36:49,081 --> 00:36:51,542
So I couldn't do it.
I just backed out.

751
00:36:51,626 --> 00:36:53,628
I was like,
"It's not gonna work.

752
00:36:53,711 --> 00:36:56,255
- Neil Blender, are you gonna
make the finals tomorrow?

753
00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:57,298
- No.

754
00:36:57,381 --> 00:36:59,717
They just called them out.
Didn't even make it.

755
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,011
Should've seen me,
falling all over the bowl.

756
00:37:02,094 --> 00:37:03,971
- There was contests
I couldn't skate at all,

757
00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:06,599
and I'd just do, "Oh,
I'll do an axis ollie 540."

758
00:37:06,682 --> 00:37:08,559
Made the cut. Whew.

759
00:37:08,643 --> 00:37:11,145
Money, done.
Paid.

760
00:37:11,228 --> 00:37:12,813
Buy diapers.
Done deal.

761
00:37:12,897 --> 00:37:14,231
- And it just became

762
00:37:14,315 --> 00:37:16,108
this proving ground,
where it was just like,

763
00:37:16,192 --> 00:37:18,361
"Are you doing a McTwist
or not?"

764
00:37:18,444 --> 00:37:20,947
'Cause this is where
we're all going towards.

765
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:23,950
[Joy Division's
"Love Will Tear Us Apart"]

766
00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:30,998
♪ ♪

767
00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:41,842
- Okay, next skater up,

768
00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:43,678
Christian Hosoi.

769
00:37:43,761 --> 00:37:45,846
[cheers and applause]

770
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:47,848
- Christian was a showman.

771
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:49,892
He could show up
with his shirt off,

772
00:37:49,976 --> 00:37:51,686
dangling out
of his back pocket,

773
00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:53,437
and the crowd was with him.

774
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:57,942
It was all style and air
with Christian,

775
00:37:58,025 --> 00:38:00,319
and it was all technical
and tricks with me,

776
00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:02,655
and people had to choose.

777
00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:04,448
- There was a contest
at Del Mar.

778
00:38:04,532 --> 00:38:09,370
The fans were like, you know,
"Hosoi, Hosoi, Hosoi!"

779
00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:10,830
- Next up, Tony Hawk,

780
00:38:10,913 --> 00:38:12,498
riding for Powell-Peralta
and Tracker Trucks.

781
00:38:12,581 --> 00:38:13,874
Tony, whenever you're ready.

782
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:15,418
[crowd booing]

783
00:38:15,501 --> 00:38:19,547
- Whenever I would go,
they would just be booing.

784
00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:21,590
- You know, at his home park
at Del Mar,

785
00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:25,219
I thought, you know,
the crowd was pretty rough.

786
00:38:25,302 --> 00:38:28,264
crowd: Christian! Christian!
Christian!

787
00:38:28,347 --> 00:38:30,766
Christian! Christian!
Christian!

788
00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:34,353
Christian! Christian!
Christian! Christian!

789
00:38:34,437 --> 00:38:36,188
- These guys are just
getting mad at him,

790
00:38:36,272 --> 00:38:38,107
because they're
seeing him do tricks.

791
00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:39,734
Like, they want to see
some older shit,

792
00:38:39,817 --> 00:38:41,193
a long lip slide
or something, like,

793
00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:42,903
and it's just not gonna happen.

794
00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:47,033
They were pissed, throwing
beer cans and whatever else.

795
00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:49,535
- I fell on one of the runs
near the end.

796
00:38:49,618 --> 00:38:52,329
And I fell near this beer can.

797
00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:54,331
Like, I almost slid into it.

798
00:38:54,415 --> 00:38:57,585
And I was just like, "Really?"

799
00:38:57,668 --> 00:39:00,129
And so I grabbed it,
and I went to throw it

800
00:39:00,212 --> 00:39:01,797
back at them,
and I was just like, "Am I--

801
00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:04,425
"I can't--
I can't play this game.

802
00:39:04,508 --> 00:39:06,635
"I'm gonna lose no matter what.

803
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,846
"I'm never gonna be seen
by these guys

804
00:39:08,929 --> 00:39:10,598
"as legitimate or cool.

805
00:39:10,681 --> 00:39:13,768
And I just gotta suck it up
and do my own thing."

806
00:39:13,851 --> 00:39:15,061
[crowd booing]

807
00:39:15,144 --> 00:39:17,438
- 96.666.

808
00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:20,691
- I don't think
that people understand

809
00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:22,401
that when you're skateboarding,

810
00:39:22,485 --> 00:39:25,446
it becomes an expression
of who you are, your identity.

811
00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:28,616
How you are embraced
as a person

812
00:39:28,699 --> 00:39:31,577
is who you are.

813
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:36,082
That stuff is all on the line
during those contests.

814
00:39:36,165 --> 00:39:38,417
- All that noise,
I was just like,

815
00:39:38,501 --> 00:39:39,585
"All right, I'm just gonna--

816
00:39:39,668 --> 00:39:41,003
head down,
I'm gonna do the work."

817
00:39:41,087 --> 00:39:42,171
- And he came in,

818
00:39:42,254 --> 00:39:45,424
and he just took it out on 'em.

819
00:39:46,592 --> 00:39:49,136
He was just focused.

820
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:52,098
[crowd booing]

821
00:39:52,181 --> 00:39:55,101
[Peter & The Test Tube Babies'
"Blown Out Again"]

822
00:39:55,184 --> 00:39:59,688
♪ ♪

823
00:39:59,772 --> 00:40:02,650
[crowd cheering]

824
00:40:02,733 --> 00:40:09,740
♪ ♪

825
00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:22,503
[crowd cheering]

826
00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:24,672
- ♪ I am here,
but where is she? ♪

827
00:40:24,755 --> 00:40:26,841
♪ We were supposed
to meet at 3:00 ♪

828
00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:29,176
♪ Now I'm soaking wet
from this pouring rain ♪

829
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,679
♪ It looks like I've been
blown out again ♪

830
00:40:31,762 --> 00:40:33,806
♪ Although I try,
it's all in vain ♪

831
00:40:33,889 --> 00:40:36,016
♪ I've been blown out,
blown out again ♪

832
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,602
♪ It's not my fault,
I'm not to blame ♪

833
00:40:38,686 --> 00:40:40,521
♪ I've been blown out,
blown out again ♪

834
00:40:40,604 --> 00:40:42,690
♪ I've been blown out,
blown out again ♪

835
00:40:42,773 --> 00:40:49,655
♪ ♪

836
00:40:49,738 --> 00:40:52,741
[crowd cheering]

837
00:40:55,286 --> 00:40:57,371
- 93.000.

838
00:40:57,454 --> 00:40:58,664
Tony Hawk is the winner!

839
00:40:58,747 --> 00:41:01,750
[cheers and applause]

840
00:41:07,923 --> 00:41:10,384
- When I finally started
to have some success

841
00:41:10,467 --> 00:41:11,886
in competition,

842
00:41:11,969 --> 00:41:14,889
I was getting blasted
in the magazines.

843
00:41:14,972 --> 00:41:16,807
"Thrasher" would write
that there was favoritism

844
00:41:16,891 --> 00:41:17,808
in the competitions

845
00:41:17,892 --> 00:41:19,143
'cause my dad
was helping running it

846
00:41:19,226 --> 00:41:21,395
and the finals were
always at Del Mar

847
00:41:21,478 --> 00:41:22,396
and that's my local park,

848
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,440
and so the whole thing was
just made for me.

849
00:41:24,523 --> 00:41:26,692
He's daddy's boy.

850
00:41:26,775 --> 00:41:29,111
- It was very easy
for all the skaters to think

851
00:41:29,195 --> 00:41:31,489
that somehow Frank Hawk's
pulling the strings.

852
00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:34,241
Really easy to do that.
He couldn't.

853
00:41:34,325 --> 00:41:36,744
You know, all he did
was organize this thing.

854
00:41:36,827 --> 00:41:38,621
- Even I did it at some point,
you know?

855
00:41:38,704 --> 00:41:41,540
I was like, "Wait a minute.
Your son's in the last heat.

856
00:41:41,624 --> 00:41:42,708
How come
I'm in the first heat?"

857
00:41:42,791 --> 00:41:45,085
- It was just hard.
It was hard being an outcast.

858
00:41:45,169 --> 00:41:48,088
It was hard being a skater

859
00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:50,591
whose style no one appreciated.

860
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:54,261
And then my dad just added
to that formula,

861
00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:56,138
and it was just, like--
I was just ostracized.

862
00:41:56,222 --> 00:41:59,141
[somber music]

863
00:41:59,225 --> 00:42:05,856
♪ ♪

864
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:09,068
I just felt that his presence
was too intrusive

865
00:42:09,151 --> 00:42:13,239
and was affecting me
and my relationships so much

866
00:42:13,322 --> 00:42:17,868
that there was no escape
from it unless he backed off.

867
00:42:19,328 --> 00:42:20,955
Finally I just told him,
you know,

868
00:42:21,038 --> 00:42:22,998
"I don't like it
when you're at the events.

869
00:42:23,082 --> 00:42:25,584
It's way harder for me."

870
00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:26,794
He didn't take it well.

871
00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:28,212
He wasn't--it wasn't--

872
00:42:28,295 --> 00:42:29,797
there was not gonna be
a compromise.

873
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,966
His answer was basically,

874
00:42:32,049 --> 00:42:33,592
"Well, then I just won't--
I won't go.

875
00:42:33,676 --> 00:42:34,760
"I just won't do these events.

876
00:42:34,843 --> 00:42:36,136
You just want me
not to be in there at all?"

877
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:39,014
And I'm like, "Well..."

878
00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:42,142
Things got icy between us,
and at the next event,

879
00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:45,062
he purposely tried
to keep his distance.

880
00:42:45,145 --> 00:42:47,106
And I guess that's the best
I could hope for

881
00:42:47,189 --> 00:42:49,275
without him
quitting altogether.

882
00:42:49,358 --> 00:42:51,026
- Now, you're the father
of Tony Hawk.

883
00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:52,403
How does it feel
when you see your son

884
00:42:52,486 --> 00:42:53,696
go in there and compete?

885
00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,281
- Oh, I'm thrilled to death.

886
00:42:55,364 --> 00:42:57,950
I have to kind of force myself
to keep subdued

887
00:42:58,033 --> 00:43:00,494
so I don't let people think
I'm giving him an advantage

888
00:43:00,577 --> 00:43:01,745
in a contest or something.

889
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:04,748
So when we get to a contest,
we're strangers to each other.

890
00:43:04,832 --> 00:43:06,667
But I'm very proud of him.

891
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:09,837
♪ ♪

892
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,756
- I think I was 15 or 16.

893
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,800
My mom moved to Arizona

894
00:43:14,883 --> 00:43:18,679
to pursue her doctorate
in business education.

895
00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:20,723
And so she was gone.

896
00:43:22,057 --> 00:43:24,810
It definitely changed
the dynamic in the household.

897
00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:28,856
One day, he came in
and he just said,

898
00:43:28,939 --> 00:43:30,524
"Hey, Tony, I think
I'm having chest pains.

899
00:43:30,607 --> 00:43:32,901
"I think--you know,
I don't know,

900
00:43:32,985 --> 00:43:35,904
"but it feels like
something's wrong.

901
00:43:35,988 --> 00:43:38,699
I think we need
to call an ambulance."

902
00:43:38,782 --> 00:43:41,994
And I kind of freaked out,
'cause I thought,

903
00:43:42,077 --> 00:43:44,663
"I'm here alone with my dad."

904
00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:48,167
We never had any conversations

905
00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:50,919
that were deep or loving.

906
00:43:51,003 --> 00:43:52,880
And so I told him,
I just--you know,

907
00:43:52,963 --> 00:43:54,631
"I want you to know
that I'm thankful

908
00:43:54,715 --> 00:43:58,052
for everything you did for me,
and I love you."

909
00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:02,389
And he said, "I know you do."

910
00:44:02,473 --> 00:44:05,434
♪ ♪

911
00:44:05,517 --> 00:44:08,062
The hardest part
about that whole scenario

912
00:44:08,145 --> 00:44:10,397
was taking him to the hospital

913
00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:13,817
and then coming home.

914
00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:16,528
And I was truly alone.

915
00:44:18,072 --> 00:44:20,699
And I was--
and my mom was gone.

916
00:44:20,783 --> 00:44:24,078
And then I just didn't
really know what to do.

917
00:44:24,161 --> 00:44:26,872
♪ ♪

918
00:44:26,955 --> 00:44:32,294
- What ultimately happened is--
was a bypass.

919
00:44:32,378 --> 00:44:36,006
My dad changed
his habits a bit.

920
00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:37,257
You know, he was walking more.

921
00:44:37,341 --> 00:44:39,385
He was--changed his diet
a little bit.

922
00:44:39,468 --> 00:44:42,054
But then he just gradually
got back

923
00:44:42,137 --> 00:44:45,974
to the same kind of old Frank.

924
00:44:46,058 --> 00:44:47,476
- Did you all try
to talk to him

925
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,770
and get him to be healthier
and...

926
00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:52,356
- No. I didn't.

927
00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:53,690
No.

928
00:44:56,985 --> 00:45:00,948
- Tony's training ground was
the Del Mar skateboard park.

929
00:45:01,031 --> 00:45:02,449
The pool was a vertical pool,

930
00:45:02,533 --> 00:45:04,910
but the left wall
wasn't quite so vertical.

931
00:45:04,993 --> 00:45:07,871
It was almost like
a beautiful transition,

932
00:45:07,955 --> 00:45:10,207
so it was a perfect place
to learn tricks.

933
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:12,167
And that seemed
to be the place

934
00:45:12,251 --> 00:45:15,129
Tony did all of his
most difficult tricks.

935
00:45:15,212 --> 00:45:17,172
- That's where I skated
my best.

936
00:45:17,256 --> 00:45:18,674
I had it dialed.
I had it wired.

937
00:45:18,757 --> 00:45:20,259
And when I would go
to other parks,

938
00:45:20,342 --> 00:45:21,510
I was out of place.

939
00:45:21,593 --> 00:45:22,803
I didn't have confidence.

940
00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:25,305
I didn't know how to use
the transitions.

941
00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:28,308
[intense rock music]

942
00:45:28,392 --> 00:45:35,065
♪ ♪

943
00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:43,991
- Most of his adversaries
skated Upland,

944
00:45:44,074 --> 00:45:47,619
a really, really deep,
big, giant pool.

945
00:45:47,703 --> 00:45:48,996
- Upland was considered

946
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:50,581
the gnarliest pool
at the time.

947
00:45:50,664 --> 00:45:52,583
Like, if you did well
in an Upland contest,

948
00:45:52,666 --> 00:45:54,418
you got the respect
of the skate industry

949
00:45:54,501 --> 00:45:56,170
and the hard-core skaters.

950
00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:58,130
- That's a really
challenging pool,

951
00:45:58,213 --> 00:45:59,590
'cause it's a square pool

952
00:45:59,673 --> 00:46:02,050
and a round pool
and a radical hip.

953
00:46:02,134 --> 00:46:04,386
It's a really,
really tricky place.

954
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:08,223
♪ ♪

955
00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:09,516
- It's just scary.

956
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,229
♪ ♪

957
00:46:14,313 --> 00:46:16,648
If you're gonna ride Upland,
you got to go for it.

958
00:46:16,732 --> 00:46:19,359
You can't just phone it in.
You can't cruise it.

959
00:46:19,443 --> 00:46:21,361
You gotta put yourself
at risk.

960
00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:26,992
♪ ♪

961
00:46:27,075 --> 00:46:28,952
[skateboard clattering]

962
00:46:29,036 --> 00:46:31,747
- Tony knew this contest
was coming up,

963
00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:34,166
and it was a huge contest.

964
00:46:34,249 --> 00:46:36,710
- I made it my mission
to get used to the pool,

965
00:46:36,793 --> 00:46:38,545
and I drove up there
every weekend.

966
00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:40,881
It was the first time
I truly worked

967
00:46:40,964 --> 00:46:43,050
at getting used
to different terrain

968
00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:44,676
to prove myself beyond

969
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,720
being this one-trick pony
at Del Mar.

970
00:46:46,803 --> 00:46:51,808
♪ ♪

971
00:46:51,892 --> 00:46:53,519
- Tony, you're the big winner
from Del Mar.

972
00:46:53,602 --> 00:46:54,895
Do you think
you'll be able to do it?

973
00:46:54,978 --> 00:46:55,938
- I don't know.

974
00:46:56,021 --> 00:46:57,481
I'm having a pretty tough time
in this pool.

975
00:46:57,564 --> 00:46:59,358
- What makes this one
different from Del Mar?

976
00:46:59,441 --> 00:47:00,651
- Well, it's got
a lot more vert,

977
00:47:00,734 --> 00:47:02,569
and it's a lot rougher

978
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:05,030
and big coping,
so it's harder to ride.

979
00:47:05,113 --> 00:47:06,031
- Big coping.

980
00:47:06,114 --> 00:47:07,866
Who's your toughest
competition?

981
00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:09,576
- Shoot.

982
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:11,537
I'd stay Stevie,
Lance, Christian.

983
00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:13,705
Psh, all those guys.
[chuckles]

984
00:47:13,789 --> 00:47:14,915
- Well, good luck
on your competition.

985
00:47:14,998 --> 00:47:15,999
- Thanks.

986
00:47:16,083 --> 00:47:17,167
[upbeat rock music]

987
00:47:17,251 --> 00:47:18,418
- Let's hear it for Tony Hawk!

988
00:47:18,502 --> 00:47:21,421
[Devo's "Uncontrollable Urge"]

989
00:47:21,505 --> 00:47:28,136
♪ ♪

990
00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:31,265
- I had a run that was
sort of my safety run,

991
00:47:31,348 --> 00:47:33,809
where it was good, but didn't
have all the tricks.

992
00:47:33,892 --> 00:47:37,729
- The score is up.
81. 81.00.

993
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,690
- Who's the person
to beat this time?

994
00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:42,985
- Uh, A lot of people.
Chris Miller.

995
00:47:43,068 --> 00:47:45,237
- Chris Miller
was the local favorite,

996
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,239
the best skater in that pool.

997
00:47:47,322 --> 00:47:50,242
♪ ♪

998
00:47:50,325 --> 00:47:52,202
He hung up
and knocked himself out.

999
00:47:52,286 --> 00:47:54,580
♪ ♪

1000
00:47:54,663 --> 00:47:57,374
- ♪ Got an urge, got a surge,
and it's out of control ♪

1001
00:47:57,457 --> 00:47:58,584
♪ ♪

1002
00:47:58,667 --> 00:48:01,336
- Score is up.
80.00.

1003
00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:02,629
♪ ♪

1004
00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:03,630
- ♪ Uncontrollable urge ♪

1005
00:48:03,714 --> 00:48:05,799
♪ I want to tell you
all about it ♪

1006
00:48:05,882 --> 00:48:08,302
- 81.0 for Stevie Caballero.

1007
00:48:08,385 --> 00:48:10,512
- ♪ Scream and shout ♪

1008
00:48:10,596 --> 00:48:12,639
- And we have Lance Mountain
on the way.

1009
00:48:12,723 --> 00:48:14,975
Score's 83.33.

1010
00:48:15,058 --> 00:48:17,686
Let's hear it.
Lance Mountain. 83.33.

1011
00:48:17,769 --> 00:48:20,647
- ♪ He said, "Yah,"
and I said, "Yeah ♪

1012
00:48:20,731 --> 00:48:21,857
♪ Yeah" ♪

1013
00:48:21,940 --> 00:48:23,317
♪ And I said, "Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah ♪

1014
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,486
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah" ♪

1015
00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:30,282
- On my second run, I landed
super low on a McTwist

1016
00:48:30,365 --> 00:48:32,951
and then ended up
kind of screwing up my speed.

1017
00:48:33,035 --> 00:48:35,621
- Score 81.66.

1018
00:48:35,704 --> 00:48:37,789
That wraps up the second round.

1019
00:48:37,873 --> 00:48:40,167
- Came down to the last runs.

1020
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:42,002
And then on my fourth run,

1021
00:48:42,085 --> 00:48:43,879
I did exactly
what I came there to do.

1022
00:48:43,962 --> 00:48:45,213
- This is Tony Hawk,

1023
00:48:45,297 --> 00:48:46,673
going down
for round number two.

1024
00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:48,717
Let's hear it.
Tony Hawk!

1025
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,095
- ♪ Every night, I know
that she goes to Finos ♪

1026
00:48:52,179 --> 00:48:53,722
[Toy Dolls'
"She Goes to Finos"]

1027
00:48:53,805 --> 00:48:55,349
♪ And every night ♪

1028
00:48:55,432 --> 00:48:57,392
♪ I know that she sees him ♪

1029
00:48:57,476 --> 00:49:00,354
♪ ♪

1030
00:49:00,437 --> 00:49:03,023
- The combinations
that he did were amazing.

1031
00:49:03,106 --> 00:49:04,316
Amazing.

1032
00:49:04,399 --> 00:49:06,693
- ♪ And every night,
it's all right ♪

1033
00:49:06,777 --> 00:49:08,278
- Skating the hardest parts
of the pool,

1034
00:49:08,362 --> 00:49:10,113
sliding around the corners.

1035
00:49:10,197 --> 00:49:16,328
♪ ♪

1036
00:49:16,411 --> 00:49:18,538
[cheers and applause]

1037
00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:22,000
♪ ♪

1038
00:49:22,084 --> 00:49:26,546
I felt so at ease and confident

1039
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:29,049
that I was singing in my run

1040
00:49:29,132 --> 00:49:31,259
the song that was playing
over the loudspeaker.

1041
00:49:31,343 --> 00:49:33,095
"She Goes to Finos," Toy Dolls.

1042
00:49:33,178 --> 00:49:36,515
- ♪ 'Cause she goes,
la-la-la, la-la-la-la ♪

1043
00:49:36,598 --> 00:49:38,517
♪ To Finos ♪

1044
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,937
♪ Yes, she goes,
la-la-la, la-la-la-la ♪

1045
00:49:42,020 --> 00:49:43,897
♪ With him, oi ♪

1046
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:47,359
♪ Yes, she goes,
la-la-la, la-la-la-la ♪

1047
00:49:47,442 --> 00:49:49,361
♪ To Finos ♪

1048
00:49:49,444 --> 00:49:53,156
♪ Yes, she goes,
la-la-la, la-la-la-la ♪

1049
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:56,034
♪ ♪

1050
00:49:56,118 --> 00:49:58,036
- It was like Luke Skywalker

1051
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,541
going in to take out
Darth Vader at the Death Star.

1052
00:50:02,624 --> 00:50:05,043
- Incredible.

1053
00:50:05,127 --> 00:50:09,131
Score 85.66.
85.66.

1054
00:50:09,214 --> 00:50:11,258
[speaking indistinctly]

1055
00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:14,803
- He won a contest
that nobody in skateboarding

1056
00:50:14,886 --> 00:50:18,682
ever expected him to win,
ever, under any circumstances.

1057
00:50:18,765 --> 00:50:21,059
- And that's when
a lot of people shut up

1058
00:50:21,143 --> 00:50:22,144
about my style,

1059
00:50:22,227 --> 00:50:25,605
about me only being good
at Del Mar.

1060
00:50:25,689 --> 00:50:27,524
- To me, that's maybe
the biggest,

1061
00:50:27,607 --> 00:50:29,526
most important win of his life.

1062
00:50:29,609 --> 00:50:32,279
Once you can win there,
you can win anywhere.

1063
00:50:32,362 --> 00:50:34,072
[Stiff Little Fingers'
"Gotta Gettaway"]

1064
00:50:34,156 --> 00:50:37,409
That was the beginning
of his launch

1065
00:50:37,492 --> 00:50:38,702
to become Tony Hawk.

1066
00:50:38,785 --> 00:50:41,121
♪ ♪

1067
00:50:41,204 --> 00:50:44,124
[cheers and applause]

1068
00:50:44,207 --> 00:50:50,088
♪ ♪

1069
00:50:51,715 --> 00:50:54,217
- He grew taller
than all of us.

1070
00:50:54,301 --> 00:50:58,513
His tricks got bigger,
and his airs got higher.

1071
00:50:58,597 --> 00:51:03,477
♪ ♪

1072
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,480
[cheers and applause]

1073
00:51:06,563 --> 00:51:08,607
- Do you have
a favorite skater?

1074
00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:10,650
- Tony Hawk.
- Tony Hawk?

1075
00:51:10,734 --> 00:51:12,778
- Tony Hawk.
- [chuckling] Oh, very good.

1076
00:51:12,861 --> 00:51:16,031
- ♪ Oh, too many folk
to tell you what to do ♪

1077
00:51:16,114 --> 00:51:19,075
- Tony was obviously
gonna be a threat.

1078
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:20,285
People saw that.

1079
00:51:20,368 --> 00:51:22,287
Even if it took five years
to get there.

1080
00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:23,622
- ♪ Have me here ♪

1081
00:51:23,705 --> 00:51:25,999
♪ Have me and hold me near ♪

1082
00:51:26,082 --> 00:51:27,793
♪ Hold me down, fasten ♪

1083
00:51:27,876 --> 00:51:29,336
- All of a sudden, he started

1084
00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:31,171
just winning
all these contests.

1085
00:51:31,254 --> 00:51:33,381
Now he's got these tricks.
Now he's got this trick.

1086
00:51:33,465 --> 00:51:35,675
He has every trick
going on and more.

1087
00:51:35,759 --> 00:51:37,844
- Hawk!
Tony Hawk!

1088
00:51:37,928 --> 00:51:41,056
- ♪ Passing me by ♪

1089
00:51:41,139 --> 00:51:42,766
♪ ♪

1090
00:51:42,849 --> 00:51:45,227
- He was coming up
with a fantastic run,

1091
00:51:45,310 --> 00:51:47,395
and then all of a sudden,
he'd one-up himself.

1092
00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:48,730
- ♪ In my head ♪

1093
00:51:48,814 --> 00:51:50,982
♪ My father argued
and my mother begged ♪

1094
00:51:51,066 --> 00:51:52,818
- At every contest,
there'd be, like,

1095
00:51:52,901 --> 00:51:54,486
three new tricks.

1096
00:51:54,569 --> 00:51:57,697
He's spinning, he's varialing,
he's doing finger flips.

1097
00:51:57,781 --> 00:52:00,158
- ♪ They want
to have me here ♪

1098
00:52:00,242 --> 00:52:03,036
♪ Have me and hold me near ♪

1099
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:06,706
- Here I am, I'm just trying
to go higher, farther, faster,

1100
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:09,543
'cause I have to keep up
with Tony.

1101
00:52:09,626 --> 00:52:11,878
- ♪ Their words
ain't tugging me ♪

1102
00:52:11,962 --> 00:52:13,380
♪ Got to stretch them,
break them ♪

1103
00:52:13,463 --> 00:52:16,383
♪ Get myself free ♪

1104
00:52:16,466 --> 00:52:19,010
♪ They want to have me here ♪

1105
00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:21,346
♪ Have me and hold me near ♪

1106
00:52:21,429 --> 00:52:25,016
- Taking home $2,000
is Tony Hawk!

1107
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:26,726
[cheers and applause]

1108
00:52:26,810 --> 00:52:29,062
- ♪ The cars
are all flashing me ♪

1109
00:52:29,145 --> 00:52:31,189
♪ Bright lights
are passing me ♪

1110
00:52:31,273 --> 00:52:36,528
♪ I feel life passing me by ♪

1111
00:52:36,611 --> 00:52:43,535
♪ ♪

1112
00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:46,079
- Tony's the youngest
skateboarder

1113
00:52:46,162 --> 00:52:47,163
on the Bones Brigade.

1114
00:52:47,247 --> 00:52:51,167
So suddenly,
he's beating his idols--

1115
00:52:51,251 --> 00:52:54,045
Caballero, McGill, Lance.

1116
00:52:54,129 --> 00:52:57,215
They used to kill him.
Now he's above 'em.

1117
00:52:57,299 --> 00:52:58,884
- ♪ Got to, got to, got to,
got to, got to, got to ♪

1118
00:52:58,967 --> 00:53:01,595
♪ Get away ♪

1119
00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:03,763
♪ Got to, got to, got to,
got to, got to, got to ♪

1120
00:53:03,847 --> 00:53:06,933
♪ Get away ♪

1121
00:53:07,017 --> 00:53:09,978
- First place
goes to Tony Hawk!

1122
00:53:10,061 --> 00:53:12,022
3,000 bucks!

1123
00:53:12,105 --> 00:53:14,024
[cheers and applause]

1124
00:53:14,107 --> 00:53:16,234
♪ ♪

1125
00:53:16,318 --> 00:53:17,652
- What's it gonna take to win?

1126
00:53:17,736 --> 00:53:19,112
You're gonna have to beat
Tony Hawk, you know.

1127
00:53:19,195 --> 00:53:21,531
He's number one right now.

1128
00:53:21,615 --> 00:53:23,575
♪ Got to, got to, got to,
got to, got to, got to ♪

1129
00:53:23,658 --> 00:53:26,286
♪ Get away ♪

1130
00:53:26,369 --> 00:53:28,705
♪ Got to, got to, got to,
got to, got to, got to ♪

1131
00:53:28,788 --> 00:53:31,917
♪ Get away ♪

1132
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,670
[cheers and applause]

1133
00:53:41,551 --> 00:53:43,887
- He would go basically win--

1134
00:53:43,970 --> 00:53:45,096
I don't know
what the record was,

1135
00:53:45,180 --> 00:53:46,348
but pretty much everything.

1136
00:53:46,431 --> 00:53:47,974
And everybody'd be stoked.

1137
00:53:48,058 --> 00:53:49,476
And maybe he would be lit up

1138
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:53,647
for long enough to take
the team photos or whatever.

1139
00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:55,941
But then you could immediately
see the wheels turning of,

1140
00:53:56,024 --> 00:53:59,277
"Yeah,
but I should have done this."

1141
00:53:59,361 --> 00:54:01,112
And he would go
right back to it.

1142
00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:06,117
- I was singularly focused
on skating

1143
00:54:06,201 --> 00:54:08,119
and doing well at the events

1144
00:54:08,203 --> 00:54:11,081
because that was
the only road to success.

1145
00:54:11,164 --> 00:54:15,669
It probably affected
my emotional connections

1146
00:54:15,752 --> 00:54:18,338
because I couldn't think
of anything else.

1147
00:54:18,421 --> 00:54:21,216
I was obligated to go
to all the competitions,

1148
00:54:21,299 --> 00:54:23,009
nonstop on the road.

1149
00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:25,887
I had a formula
where I'd create a routine,

1150
00:54:25,971 --> 00:54:27,973
I had these backup tricks
that I was gonna do later,

1151
00:54:28,056 --> 00:54:29,391
and then I just started
doing that,

1152
00:54:29,474 --> 00:54:31,851
and it was like
I was just a machine.

1153
00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:33,353
- You feeling
any excess pressure

1154
00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:34,729
now that you're in first place,

1155
00:54:34,813 --> 00:54:36,731
or do you think
that's the better place to be?

1156
00:54:36,815 --> 00:54:37,899
- Oh, I don't know.

1157
00:54:37,983 --> 00:54:41,528
I mean, I guess I feel really
happy that I did that run

1158
00:54:41,611 --> 00:54:43,488
and I'm in first with it,
but I don't know.

1159
00:54:43,571 --> 00:54:45,490
I'm just gonna do my best,
and if I do my best

1160
00:54:45,573 --> 00:54:48,326
and I don't even win,
that's okay with me.

1161
00:54:48,410 --> 00:54:52,414
It got to the point where
it was somewhat repetitive

1162
00:54:52,497 --> 00:54:56,543
and just methodical

1163
00:54:56,626 --> 00:54:58,920
and robotic,

1164
00:54:59,004 --> 00:55:00,922
where I came in
and it was like,

1165
00:55:01,006 --> 00:55:02,132
"I'm gonna have to do this.

1166
00:55:02,215 --> 00:55:04,050
"I'm gonna have to go
this much further,

1167
00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:05,260
"because now they're judging me

1168
00:55:05,343 --> 00:55:06,886
"on what they saw me do
last time.

1169
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:08,722
So I gotta take it
one step further."

1170
00:55:08,805 --> 00:55:11,891
And I became a machine.

1171
00:55:11,975 --> 00:55:15,562
And it really did
suck the fun out of it.

1172
00:55:15,645 --> 00:55:17,522
Other skaters
would tell me, like,

1173
00:55:17,605 --> 00:55:18,940
while we're practicing,

1174
00:55:19,024 --> 00:55:20,734
"Man, I just want
to get second."

1175
00:55:20,817 --> 00:55:24,571
And I just took it
as I didn't have any peers.

1176
00:55:25,572 --> 00:55:27,157
It was just isolating.
It was a bummer.

1177
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:28,366
I can't explain it.

1178
00:55:28,450 --> 00:55:30,785
You know, the whole thing,
it's lonely at the top--it is.

1179
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,463
- I think it's a quote
from Nietzsche's "Zarathustra."

1180
00:55:41,546 --> 00:55:42,922
"You make it up
to the top of a mountain,

1181
00:55:43,006 --> 00:55:44,632
and what's left for me
but lightning?"

1182
00:55:45,967 --> 00:55:48,887
[somber music]

1183
00:55:48,970 --> 00:55:50,096
♪ ♪

1184
00:55:50,180 --> 00:55:54,100
- With all of the things
that were coming to him,

1185
00:55:54,184 --> 00:55:55,769
his father being at contests

1186
00:55:55,852 --> 00:55:57,687
and the commotion
that his father causes

1187
00:55:57,771 --> 00:55:59,481
with all the other
skateboarders,

1188
00:55:59,564 --> 00:56:01,483
people blaming Tony
for winning

1189
00:56:01,566 --> 00:56:03,234
because his father's
setting it up,

1190
00:56:03,318 --> 00:56:05,236
people calling him
a clown skater

1191
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,571
because of the tricks he does,

1192
00:56:06,654 --> 00:56:08,448
people saying, "You don't
deserve to be doing this.

1193
00:56:08,531 --> 00:56:10,575
Christian should be winning,"

1194
00:56:10,658 --> 00:56:14,746
and at the same time,
achieving his dream.

1195
00:56:14,829 --> 00:56:16,998
He achieved his dream.

1196
00:56:17,082 --> 00:56:18,416
And he got up there
and he realized

1197
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:20,710
how lonely it is.

1198
00:56:20,794 --> 00:56:23,588
- I felt like I was
losing myself,

1199
00:56:23,671 --> 00:56:25,673
losing my passion.

1200
00:56:25,757 --> 00:56:31,304
None of the money or fame
or success was worth that.

1201
00:56:31,387 --> 00:56:32,514
- Skating very well today.

1202
00:56:32,597 --> 00:56:36,309
- Um, not as well as I want to.

1203
00:56:36,392 --> 00:56:38,853
- The heat bothering you?
- Not so much that.

1204
00:56:38,937 --> 00:56:42,065
I'm just not really feeling
like skating right now.

1205
00:56:42,148 --> 00:56:43,149
- He just decided

1206
00:56:43,233 --> 00:56:45,443
that he didn't want
to compete anymore.

1207
00:56:45,527 --> 00:56:47,612
- I told my brother
how I was feeling.

1208
00:56:47,695 --> 00:56:48,780
He was really the only one

1209
00:56:48,863 --> 00:56:51,116
I felt like
I could confide in.

1210
00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:53,785
He said,
"You gotta tell Stacy."

1211
00:56:53,868 --> 00:56:57,372
- Tony was seriously
in a catatonic state

1212
00:56:57,455 --> 00:56:59,207
when he arrived at my house.

1213
00:56:59,290 --> 00:57:01,417
He sat there
just looking at me like...

1214
00:57:03,294 --> 00:57:07,549
- You didn't tell Stacy that
you're gonna quit anything.

1215
00:57:07,632 --> 00:57:09,551
Who would do that?

1216
00:57:09,634 --> 00:57:11,678
- Steve proceeded to tell me

1217
00:57:11,761 --> 00:57:15,515
that it had all just become
too much for Tony.

1218
00:57:15,598 --> 00:57:20,228
He wasn't enjoying being
a professional skateboarder.

1219
00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:25,191
I think that's as close
as he's ever gotten,

1220
00:57:25,275 --> 00:57:26,985
that I've seen,

1221
00:57:27,068 --> 00:57:29,612
to dealing with the pain
that's inside of him.

1222
00:57:29,696 --> 00:57:34,367
♪ ♪

1223
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:40,999
- Driving home, there was
a sense of hopelessness.

1224
00:57:41,082 --> 00:57:44,961
And I didn't really know
what was gonna happen next.

1225
00:57:45,044 --> 00:57:47,297
Stacy told me
that Rodney Mullen

1226
00:57:47,380 --> 00:57:49,132
had the same conversation
with him

1227
00:57:49,215 --> 00:57:51,593
about a year prior
to me telling him that.

1228
00:57:51,676 --> 00:57:53,386
And Rodney
had stopped competing.

1229
00:57:53,469 --> 00:57:55,013
I called Rodney,

1230
00:57:55,096 --> 00:57:59,017
and Rodney unloaded everything.

1231
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,268
He just said, "You know,

1232
00:58:00,351 --> 00:58:04,189
"I've come to appreciate
the skating more.

1233
00:58:04,272 --> 00:58:06,232
"I'm willing to take
more chances

1234
00:58:06,316 --> 00:58:10,945
and risk not winning,
and that has liberated me."

1235
00:58:11,029 --> 00:58:15,325
And he said,
"Maybe that would help you."

1236
00:58:15,408 --> 00:58:18,328
[gentle music]

1237
00:58:18,411 --> 00:58:25,418
♪ ♪

1238
00:58:41,392 --> 00:58:44,020
When I eventually
stopped competing,

1239
00:58:44,103 --> 00:58:47,065
I was like, "Oh, I have
all this freedom now."

1240
00:58:49,651 --> 00:58:52,528
"I'm not beholden
to earning points

1241
00:58:52,612 --> 00:58:54,489
and staying on all the time."

1242
00:58:57,033 --> 00:58:59,452
I had
a totally different approach

1243
00:58:59,535 --> 00:59:02,121
to what I was doing.

1244
00:59:02,205 --> 00:59:05,458
Started getting
much more creative.

1245
00:59:05,541 --> 00:59:08,378
- [sighs]

1246
00:59:09,837 --> 00:59:11,965
Detachment.
Freedom.

1247
00:59:12,048 --> 00:59:14,801
You can breathe.

1248
00:59:14,884 --> 00:59:17,637
We skate with our hearts.

1249
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,433
And...it has its own feelings.

1250
00:59:22,517 --> 00:59:29,440
♪ ♪

1251
00:59:43,663 --> 00:59:45,164
- Both Tony and Rodney

1252
00:59:45,248 --> 00:59:49,669
talk about the difficulties
of competition.

1253
00:59:49,752 --> 00:59:53,339
But both of those guys
loved competing.

1254
00:59:53,423 --> 00:59:56,009
They were both killers.

1255
00:59:56,092 --> 00:59:58,678
Not just competitors, killers.

1256
00:59:58,761 --> 01:00:00,054
They're not out to beat you.

1257
01:00:00,138 --> 01:00:02,348
They're out to make you afraid
to ever come to them

1258
01:00:02,432 --> 01:00:03,808
and compete with them again.

1259
01:00:03,891 --> 01:00:07,353
♪ ♪

1260
01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,647
Tony may have had
a hard time with it,

1261
01:00:09,731 --> 01:00:12,608
but once he walked away
from competition,

1262
01:00:12,692 --> 01:00:14,068
he couldn't live without it.

1263
01:00:14,152 --> 01:00:16,154
He had to get back in.

1264
01:00:16,237 --> 01:00:22,160
♪ ♪

1265
01:00:22,243 --> 01:00:24,245
- Eventually found my way
back to it

1266
01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:26,831
with a different attitude,
and I could still make it fun,

1267
01:00:26,914 --> 01:00:28,166
and I could still do it
for a living,

1268
01:00:28,249 --> 01:00:30,376
and that was it.

1269
01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:31,753
That was the turning point.

1270
01:00:31,836 --> 01:00:38,843
♪ ♪

1271
01:00:42,096 --> 01:00:43,723
- One time
when I lived with Tony,

1272
01:00:43,806 --> 01:00:45,099
it was garbage day,
and I came up,

1273
01:00:45,183 --> 01:00:46,225
and he'd cleaned out
the garage.

1274
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:48,019
And he was dragging
this trash can

1275
01:00:48,102 --> 01:00:50,897
down the driveway,

1276
01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:52,148
and there was
all these trophies

1277
01:00:52,231 --> 01:00:53,441
poking out of the top.

1278
01:00:53,524 --> 01:00:55,360
Like, he did not care.

1279
01:00:55,443 --> 01:00:57,362
He lost his bag
of X Games medals.

1280
01:00:57,445 --> 01:00:59,864
I mean, he's never, ever cared.

1281
01:00:59,947 --> 01:01:00,907
I've never seen him,

1282
01:01:00,990 --> 01:01:03,034
since I've known him
for 30 years,

1283
01:01:03,117 --> 01:01:04,369
to put any of the trophies up.

1284
01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:06,871
Other people will, but he's
never had a trophy room.

1285
01:01:06,954 --> 01:01:10,375
"That's just a symbol
of one point in time.

1286
01:01:10,458 --> 01:01:12,460
I can't get attached to that."

1287
01:01:12,543 --> 01:01:15,421
[The Replacements'
"Can't Hardly Wait"]

1288
01:01:15,505 --> 01:01:19,717
♪ ♪

1289
01:01:19,801 --> 01:01:23,638
- ♪ I'll write you a letter
tomorrow ♪

1290
01:01:23,721 --> 01:01:25,807
♪ ♪

1291
01:01:25,890 --> 01:01:30,269
♪ Tonight,
I can't hold a pen ♪

1292
01:01:30,353 --> 01:01:31,604
♪ ♪

1293
01:01:31,687 --> 01:01:34,524
- Video was
a whole new avenue.

1294
01:01:34,607 --> 01:01:36,567
It's not about competition.

1295
01:01:36,651 --> 01:01:39,737
That eventually outshined
all the contests.

1296
01:01:39,821 --> 01:01:43,574
- ♪ I promise not to blow
the address again ♪

1297
01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:45,576
- Kids are now seeing
how to do it.

1298
01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:47,161
When they'd look
at a magazine,

1299
01:01:47,245 --> 01:01:49,038
they'd see a maneuver,
but they didn't understand

1300
01:01:49,122 --> 01:01:50,581
how a kid got
from here to there

1301
01:01:50,665 --> 01:01:51,833
or there to here.

1302
01:01:51,916 --> 01:01:54,293
But when they saw the video,
they saw the whole thing.

1303
01:01:54,377 --> 01:01:56,129
So it completely
revolutionized

1304
01:01:56,212 --> 01:01:58,172
how kids consumed
skateboarding.

1305
01:01:58,256 --> 01:02:00,341
And it really helped
the sport grow.

1306
01:02:00,425 --> 01:02:03,261
♪ ♪

1307
01:02:03,344 --> 01:02:05,680
- ♪ Jesus rides ♪

1308
01:02:05,763 --> 01:02:08,558
- I was 12 years old
when I first got

1309
01:02:08,641 --> 01:02:10,351
a skateboard
and got into skateboarding.

1310
01:02:10,435 --> 01:02:12,645
And it was the boom
of the Bones Brigade,

1311
01:02:12,728 --> 01:02:13,938
and everybody
had a skateboard.

1312
01:02:14,021 --> 01:02:16,482
And immediately was attracted

1313
01:02:16,566 --> 01:02:20,153
to the fun of skateboarding
through Lance Mountain

1314
01:02:20,236 --> 01:02:23,614
and the tricks in skateboarding
through Tony Hawk.

1315
01:02:23,698 --> 01:02:25,283
- ♪ Ashtray floors ♪

1316
01:02:25,366 --> 01:02:27,785
♪ Dirty clothes
and filthy jokes ♪

1317
01:02:27,869 --> 01:02:29,620
- Oh, those videos
got passed around.

1318
01:02:29,704 --> 01:02:31,956
I mean, people tell me
that they would rent it

1319
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:33,666
from the shop,
give it to their friend.

1320
01:02:33,749 --> 01:02:36,002
It would break.
They'd tape it back together.

1321
01:02:36,085 --> 01:02:37,628
- That was
the greatest thing ever.

1322
01:02:37,712 --> 01:02:41,215
Like, I just would watch it
over and over and over.

1323
01:02:41,299 --> 01:02:43,342
Like, "There's gonna be
another one?

1324
01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:45,845
What are they gonna do?
How funny is Lance gonna be?"

1325
01:02:45,928 --> 01:02:48,222
Like, you know, "What are
the new tricks like?"

1326
01:02:48,306 --> 01:02:50,475
Stacy was onto something, man.

1327
01:02:50,558 --> 01:02:52,894
Like, there's still
nothing cooler

1328
01:02:52,977 --> 01:02:54,562
than Bones Brigade videos.

1329
01:02:54,645 --> 01:02:57,523
[droning rock music]

1330
01:02:57,607 --> 01:03:04,614
♪ ♪

1331
01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:25,635
- Animal Chin.
Have you heard of 'em?

1332
01:03:25,718 --> 01:03:27,303
- If you look too hard
for Animal Chin,

1333
01:03:27,386 --> 01:03:28,763
you're never gonna find 'em.

1334
01:03:28,846 --> 01:03:33,309
♪ ♪

1335
01:03:33,392 --> 01:03:35,144
- Heard about this ramp.

1336
01:03:35,228 --> 01:03:37,271
It's in this field
between two junkyards.

1337
01:03:37,355 --> 01:03:42,401
♪ ♪

1338
01:03:42,485 --> 01:03:44,570
- You know, Stacy would have
me, Mike,

1339
01:03:44,654 --> 01:03:46,864
and Lance do our parts,

1340
01:03:46,948 --> 01:03:49,700
and then it was Tony's turn.

1341
01:03:49,784 --> 01:03:55,039
♪ ♪

1342
01:03:55,122 --> 01:03:56,499
- What the hell was that?

1343
01:03:56,582 --> 01:03:59,293
♪ ♪

1344
01:03:59,377 --> 01:04:03,089
- Oh!
- Insane.

1345
01:04:03,172 --> 01:04:04,590
- I'm like,
"Man, this guy's got

1346
01:04:04,674 --> 01:04:06,926
a bag of tricks
that doesn't stop."

1347
01:04:07,009 --> 01:04:13,558
♪ ♪

1348
01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:16,060
540s were hard enough
grabbing,

1349
01:04:16,143 --> 01:04:19,730
but to do it
without grabbing your board...

1350
01:04:19,814 --> 01:04:23,484
- People thought it was
an impossible trick to do.

1351
01:04:23,568 --> 01:04:25,486
When people saw it,
they were like,

1352
01:04:25,570 --> 01:04:27,113
"That's not real."

1353
01:04:27,196 --> 01:04:34,161
♪ ♪

1354
01:04:40,293 --> 01:04:43,462
- Tony's becoming a superstar
in skateboarding,

1355
01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:47,300
and as a result, we sold
more of his board models

1356
01:04:47,383 --> 01:04:48,968
pretty much every month

1357
01:04:49,051 --> 01:04:50,845
more than anybody else
on the team.

1358
01:04:50,928 --> 01:04:54,473
We could've sold even probably
more than we sold of Tony's.

1359
01:04:54,557 --> 01:04:55,725
- You just didn't make enough.

1360
01:04:55,808 --> 01:04:57,518
- We couldn't make enough.

1361
01:04:57,602 --> 01:04:59,812
- By the time that I was 17,

1362
01:04:59,895 --> 01:05:02,481
I was making
at least six figures

1363
01:05:02,565 --> 01:05:03,774
just from skateboards.

1364
01:05:03,858 --> 01:05:05,109
You get very jaded

1365
01:05:05,192 --> 01:05:06,527
when that kind of money
is coming in.

1366
01:05:06,611 --> 01:05:10,239
And also, I'm not trying
to be responsible with it.

1367
01:05:10,323 --> 01:05:12,450
I'm not saving for the future,

1368
01:05:12,533 --> 01:05:14,452
nor am I saving for taxes.

1369
01:05:14,535 --> 01:05:17,246
And so my dad was the one

1370
01:05:17,330 --> 01:05:18,956
who really guided me
through that

1371
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,335
and was the one
who convinced me to buy a house

1372
01:05:22,418 --> 01:05:24,837
when I was still
in high school.

1373
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,798
[XTC's
"Roads Girdle the Globe"]

1374
01:05:27,882 --> 01:05:34,847
♪ ♪

1375
01:05:41,062 --> 01:05:43,814
- Tony and his dad built
all these beautiful ramps.

1376
01:05:43,898 --> 01:05:45,816
I mean,
they were just unbelievable.

1377
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:47,777
His dad was so dedicated.

1378
01:05:47,860 --> 01:05:50,488
- The winningest vertical
skateboard rider in history

1379
01:05:50,571 --> 01:05:52,156
now making
a very comfortable living

1380
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:53,616
as a pro athlete.

1381
01:05:53,699 --> 01:05:56,911
- In this house, they live,
breathe, sleep, talk,

1382
01:05:56,994 --> 01:05:59,163
and eat skateboarding.

1383
01:05:59,246 --> 01:06:01,832
And what you're about to see
are the rewards for a guy

1384
01:06:01,916 --> 01:06:04,001
who's become top of his sport.

1385
01:06:04,085 --> 01:06:05,920
[upbeat music]

1386
01:06:06,003 --> 01:06:08,047
- On Sunday,
I'm signing autographs.

1387
01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:10,716
I am flying home
with an oversized check,

1388
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,385
says $10,000.

1389
01:06:12,468 --> 01:06:15,221
I had to put it up
in the first-class closet.

1390
01:06:15,304 --> 01:06:16,764
And then I go home,
and I gotta wake up

1391
01:06:16,847 --> 01:06:20,559
at 7:00 a.m. next day
and get to school.

1392
01:06:20,643 --> 01:06:23,562
[New Order's "Age of Consent"]

1393
01:06:23,646 --> 01:06:30,444
♪ ♪

1394
01:06:31,278 --> 01:06:34,865
- When we started
traveling around the world,

1395
01:06:34,949 --> 01:06:36,867
we started noticing
there was a lot of people

1396
01:06:36,951 --> 01:06:38,035
showing up to our demos,

1397
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:40,413
and we were getting
a lot of attention.

1398
01:06:42,123 --> 01:06:45,543
- We're on the road,
and we're in our teens.

1399
01:06:45,626 --> 01:06:48,921
New city every night,
trying to meet girls.

1400
01:06:49,004 --> 01:06:54,760
- ♪ Won't you please
let me go? ♪

1401
01:06:54,844 --> 01:06:56,721
♪ These words lie inside ♪

1402
01:06:56,804 --> 01:07:01,809
- When it got big, it was
rock star time and girl time.

1403
01:07:01,892 --> 01:07:04,353
Look at the people
who didn't have ponytails.

1404
01:07:04,437 --> 01:07:06,480
I didn't have a ponytail.
They all did.

1405
01:07:06,564 --> 01:07:08,566
That was a pure sign
that you're stoked,

1406
01:07:08,649 --> 01:07:09,900
that you're a rock star,

1407
01:07:09,984 --> 01:07:11,444
and you're gonna
get some girls.

1408
01:07:11,527 --> 01:07:18,492
♪ ♪

1409
01:07:27,710 --> 01:07:29,879
- It seemed like money
was just raining down,

1410
01:07:29,962 --> 01:07:31,881
and some of the guys
got carried away.

1411
01:07:31,964 --> 01:07:34,800
They were spending crazy.

1412
01:07:34,884 --> 01:07:38,095
At one point,
Powell sent us credit cards.

1413
01:07:38,179 --> 01:07:40,514
We had no idea
how credit cards worked,

1414
01:07:40,598 --> 01:07:42,516
so we just thought
that we could spend money

1415
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,269
and that we wouldn't
get the bill.

1416
01:07:45,352 --> 01:07:47,813
We were buying cameras,
video games.

1417
01:07:47,897 --> 01:07:51,108
I think I bought
a pinball machine.

1418
01:07:51,192 --> 01:07:53,944
I'd be in Japan,
I would just buy boom boxes,

1419
01:07:54,028 --> 01:07:58,157
headphones, and at one point,
I bought a tanning bed.

1420
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,161
- ♪ Do you find this happens
all the time? ♪

1421
01:08:02,244 --> 01:08:03,287
♪ ♪

1422
01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:07,416
- From '87 to '89,

1423
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:09,502
it was salad days.

1424
01:08:09,585 --> 01:08:12,004
It was the heyday.
It was crazy.

1425
01:08:12,087 --> 01:08:17,676
1989, I went on tour
in the U.S. for a month.

1426
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,180
Every demo was
thousands of people.

1427
01:08:21,263 --> 01:08:23,682
And then we go to Europe
for six weeks.

1428
01:08:23,766 --> 01:08:25,100
Every crowd was huge.

1429
01:08:25,184 --> 01:08:27,394
We did a demo
at Tivoli Gardens.

1430
01:08:27,478 --> 01:08:29,605
The entire amusement park
stopped what they were doing

1431
01:08:29,688 --> 01:08:31,732
to watch us skate.

1432
01:08:31,816 --> 01:08:34,902
And then we'd go to Australia,
in Sydney.

1433
01:08:34,985 --> 01:08:37,404
Vert ramp right
in the middle of the city.

1434
01:08:37,488 --> 01:08:39,949
People were lining
the rooftops

1435
01:08:40,032 --> 01:08:42,159
because there was no more room
to watch us.

1436
01:08:42,243 --> 01:08:43,661
[cheers and applause]

1437
01:08:43,744 --> 01:08:45,121
- He was really doing well.

1438
01:08:45,204 --> 01:08:47,873
And I was really happy for him.

1439
01:08:47,957 --> 01:08:51,252
And it gave my parents
such bragging rights

1440
01:08:51,335 --> 01:08:52,461
that they couldn't--

1441
01:08:52,545 --> 01:08:55,256
they would stop total strangers
at the airport and say,

1442
01:08:55,339 --> 01:08:58,551
"My son is Tony Hawk.
That's no lie."

1443
01:08:58,634 --> 01:09:01,428
- So life with the alien
is good, huh?

1444
01:09:01,512 --> 01:09:03,389
- So far.
So far, so good.

1445
01:09:03,472 --> 01:09:06,058
- Well, we all wish you
many luck and happiness, and--

1446
01:09:06,141 --> 01:09:09,103
- I was 22. Cindy was 24.

1447
01:09:09,186 --> 01:09:10,896
We were living together.

1448
01:09:10,980 --> 01:09:14,859
We decided the next stage
would be to get married.

1449
01:09:14,942 --> 01:09:17,027
Suddenly, I'm married,

1450
01:09:17,111 --> 01:09:19,864
I have a kid on the way,
I have two mortgages,

1451
01:09:19,947 --> 01:09:22,825
and I was just thrust
into adulthood.

1452
01:09:22,908 --> 01:09:25,411
And little did I know

1453
01:09:25,494 --> 01:09:29,206
that that income
wasn't gonna last.

1454
01:09:29,290 --> 01:09:32,585
- Skateboarding is cyclical.
It's a cyclical business.

1455
01:09:32,668 --> 01:09:37,256
It was big from '73 to '79.

1456
01:09:37,339 --> 01:09:41,510
And then from 1980 to '84,
it dipped way down,

1457
01:09:41,594 --> 01:09:43,429
almost disappeared.

1458
01:09:43,512 --> 01:09:45,472
'85, it starts to climb again,

1459
01:09:45,556 --> 01:09:48,350
and it goes all the way up
until 1990,

1460
01:09:48,434 --> 01:09:51,270
and then it dips again,
and it dips radically.

1461
01:09:51,353 --> 01:09:53,230
And when it did,

1462
01:09:53,314 --> 01:09:56,108
a lot of companies
went out of business.

1463
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:58,277
- I remember Stacy telling me,
"It's getting really hard

1464
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,405
to justify any expenses that
we usually put out there."

1465
01:10:01,488 --> 01:10:03,616
And I said,
"Well, what does that mean?"

1466
01:10:03,699 --> 01:10:06,410
And he said, "Well, I think
you'll be the last to feel it,

1467
01:10:06,493 --> 01:10:08,913
but it's coming."

1468
01:10:08,996 --> 01:10:11,957
[somber music]

1469
01:10:12,041 --> 01:10:19,048
♪ ♪

1470
01:10:27,556 --> 01:10:29,475
Skate magazines were
going away.

1471
01:10:29,558 --> 01:10:32,519
Skate brands
were barely surviving.

1472
01:10:32,603 --> 01:10:34,480
♪ ♪

1473
01:10:34,563 --> 01:10:36,190
The skate parks closing down

1474
01:10:36,273 --> 01:10:38,067
was the last nail
in the coffin.

1475
01:10:38,150 --> 01:10:41,862
♪ ♪

1476
01:10:41,946 --> 01:10:44,239
- The early '90s were
the dark years.

1477
01:10:44,323 --> 01:10:46,992
It was tough.

1478
01:10:47,076 --> 01:10:48,786
Vertical skateboarding
was dead.

1479
01:10:48,869 --> 01:10:50,955
♪ ♪

1480
01:10:51,038 --> 01:10:53,374
- I remember
some of the last contests,

1481
01:10:53,457 --> 01:10:54,625
and then all of a sudden,

1482
01:10:54,708 --> 01:10:56,794
there just was
no more contests.

1483
01:10:56,877 --> 01:10:59,129
♪ ♪

1484
01:10:59,213 --> 01:11:01,382
It was like a rude awakening
for all of us.

1485
01:11:01,465 --> 01:11:05,010
♪ ♪

1486
01:11:05,094 --> 01:11:07,346
- '91 was sort of the end

1487
01:11:07,429 --> 01:11:09,682
of the Bones Brigade era
as I knew it.

1488
01:11:09,765 --> 01:11:11,558
We went to go talk to Stacy,

1489
01:11:11,642 --> 01:11:14,061
and he said,
"You guys, I already left."

1490
01:11:14,144 --> 01:11:16,480
- There was kind of
this distance thing

1491
01:11:16,563 --> 01:11:18,732
between all of us
during those years.

1492
01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:20,859
We weren't all together
with Stacy,

1493
01:11:20,943 --> 01:11:22,611
and we weren't going
to contests,

1494
01:11:22,695 --> 01:11:24,822
and we weren't--
there was nothing.

1495
01:11:24,905 --> 01:11:27,908
All of us were thinking,
you know, "Is this it?

1496
01:11:27,992 --> 01:11:29,868
What we love to do
is just nothing?"

1497
01:11:29,952 --> 01:11:32,663
You know, we just came
from touring around the world.

1498
01:11:32,746 --> 01:11:35,332
We went to George Harrison's
house, for Pete's sake.

1499
01:11:35,416 --> 01:11:39,920
That was
an intensely tough time

1500
01:11:40,004 --> 01:11:42,715
for most of us.

1501
01:11:42,798 --> 01:11:44,883
- I started Birdhouse in '92.

1502
01:11:44,967 --> 01:11:46,719
I had high hopes
that it was going

1503
01:11:46,802 --> 01:11:48,721
to at least be profitable
within a year or so,

1504
01:11:48,804 --> 01:11:50,097
and it just wasn't.

1505
01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:52,683
And we were scraping by,

1506
01:11:52,766 --> 01:11:55,853
and there was--
there was not a bright future.

1507
01:11:55,936 --> 01:11:58,647
Riley, point to Mommy.

1508
01:11:58,731 --> 01:12:01,525
- Mommy.
- Yeah.

1509
01:12:01,608 --> 01:12:04,153
Where's Daddy?

1510
01:12:04,236 --> 01:12:06,196
- Cindy was becoming
the breadwinner

1511
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:07,406
being a manicurist.

1512
01:12:07,489 --> 01:12:08,866
[skateboard wheels rumbling]

1513
01:12:08,949 --> 01:12:11,952
Our relationship
was rocky at best.

1514
01:12:12,036 --> 01:12:14,121
People she works with,
it's just like,

1515
01:12:14,204 --> 01:12:16,165
"He's still trying
to skateboard?

1516
01:12:16,248 --> 01:12:18,083
"Are you fucking serious?

1517
01:12:18,167 --> 01:12:19,752
Like, grow up. Get a job."

1518
01:12:21,211 --> 01:12:24,214
I started taking every odd job
I could.

1519
01:12:24,298 --> 01:12:28,761
I bought a video editing
system on consignment.

1520
01:12:28,844 --> 01:12:29,928
I couldn't even afford it.

1521
01:12:30,012 --> 01:12:33,098
I borrowed $5,000
from my parents to buy it.

1522
01:12:33,182 --> 01:12:35,642
- He's chugging this OJ.

1523
01:12:35,726 --> 01:12:37,186
When I moved in with Tony,

1524
01:12:37,269 --> 01:12:39,772
we were both super,
super broke.

1525
01:12:39,855 --> 01:12:42,357
But I think we were like,
"We'll just keep, you know,

1526
01:12:42,441 --> 01:12:45,444
"adjusting our lifestyle
lower and lower

1527
01:12:45,527 --> 01:12:47,404
until we get
to that crisis point."

1528
01:12:47,488 --> 01:12:50,074
- We had a water bill
at the time

1529
01:12:50,157 --> 01:12:53,452
that I had to go
down to the city

1530
01:12:53,535 --> 01:12:55,454
and ask to make payments on.

1531
01:12:55,537 --> 01:12:59,083
And they allowed me
to pay it off over six months.

1532
01:12:59,166 --> 01:13:02,169
I would look around
and it'd be like...

1533
01:13:02,252 --> 01:13:03,587
you know, there's a pool

1534
01:13:03,670 --> 01:13:07,257
and there's a propane tank
that I got to pay to fill,

1535
01:13:07,341 --> 01:13:08,634
and then there's
this huge ramp

1536
01:13:08,717 --> 01:13:10,302
that was
starting to fall apart

1537
01:13:10,385 --> 01:13:12,346
that I couldn't afford to fix.

1538
01:13:12,429 --> 01:13:14,181
And that's
when reality sunk in.

1539
01:13:14,264 --> 01:13:17,559
[tense music]

1540
01:13:17,643 --> 01:13:19,353
I sold the house.

1541
01:13:19,436 --> 01:13:22,773
I had to tear down
this monstrous ramp.

1542
01:13:22,856 --> 01:13:25,901
Pulling out screws,
pulling off plies,

1543
01:13:25,984 --> 01:13:30,280
cutting chunks out of it
and kicking them over the side.

1544
01:13:30,364 --> 01:13:31,907
And to what end?

1545
01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:34,785
♪ ♪

1546
01:13:34,868 --> 01:13:38,080
You're just dismantling
your career until it's gone.

1547
01:13:38,163 --> 01:13:44,586
♪ ♪

1548
01:13:44,670 --> 01:13:47,047
- How did you handle stress
back then?

1549
01:13:48,757 --> 01:13:50,134
- I don't even--

1550
01:13:50,217 --> 01:13:51,677
how did I handle stress
back then?

1551
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,887
I think that I would go skate.

1552
01:13:56,348 --> 01:13:57,724
I mean, that was it.

1553
01:13:57,808 --> 01:14:00,185
That's been my--
[clears throat]

1554
01:14:00,269 --> 01:14:02,229
That's been my escape, always.

1555
01:14:02,312 --> 01:14:05,190
But it was meager.

1556
01:14:05,274 --> 01:14:07,025
And it wasn't
what it used to be.

1557
01:14:07,109 --> 01:14:08,944
So it was like,

1558
01:14:09,027 --> 01:14:10,320
"Why are you spending
all your energy?

1559
01:14:10,404 --> 01:14:11,864
Why are you killing yourself
out there?"

1560
01:14:11,947 --> 01:14:14,324
[Pavement's "Here"]

1561
01:14:14,408 --> 01:14:17,828
- ♪ I was dressed
for success ♪

1562
01:14:17,911 --> 01:14:19,329
♪ ♪

1563
01:14:19,413 --> 01:14:24,418
♪ But success,
it never comes ♪

1564
01:14:24,501 --> 01:14:29,464
♪ And I'm the only one
who laughs ♪

1565
01:14:29,548 --> 01:14:31,383
- I hired him to help me
with a little video

1566
01:14:31,466 --> 01:14:34,094
for the shop or something
that I was trying to do.

1567
01:14:34,178 --> 01:14:36,430
He was, you know,
scrambling around,

1568
01:14:36,513 --> 01:14:39,725
but he still
pushed himself skating.

1569
01:14:39,808 --> 01:14:41,059
♪ ♪

1570
01:14:41,143 --> 01:14:45,230
- ♪ But they're not as bad
as this ♪

1571
01:14:45,314 --> 01:14:50,360
- I never considered
quitting skating as an option.

1572
01:14:50,444 --> 01:14:51,904
I was always gonna
find time to skate.

1573
01:14:51,987 --> 01:14:55,407
- ♪ We'll be waiting,
waiting where ♪

1574
01:14:57,326 --> 01:14:58,577
- Yeah!

1575
01:14:58,660 --> 01:15:01,371
- ♪ Everything's ending here ♪

1576
01:15:04,416 --> 01:15:06,585
- [laughs]

1577
01:15:06,668 --> 01:15:09,421
I don't think I could estimate
how many 540s I've done.

1578
01:15:09,505 --> 01:15:10,923
It's just--

1579
01:15:11,006 --> 01:15:12,633
- Like, over...

1580
01:15:12,716 --> 01:15:16,511
- 10,000.
For sure. I--

1581
01:15:16,595 --> 01:15:19,765
let's just say, for instance,
300 in a summer.

1582
01:15:19,848 --> 01:15:20,807
[laughs]

1583
01:15:22,392 --> 01:15:24,478
- 400, 500 a year. Yeah.

1584
01:15:24,561 --> 01:15:28,190
I mean, I was--like,
thousands, tens of thousands.

1585
01:15:28,273 --> 01:15:29,983
When people say you put in
your 10,000 hours,

1586
01:15:30,067 --> 01:15:31,735
I put in my 10,000 McTwists.

1587
01:15:31,818 --> 01:15:33,862
[laughs]

1588
01:15:37,074 --> 01:15:38,408
- [laughs]

1589
01:15:38,492 --> 01:15:41,411
[suspenseful music]

1590
01:15:41,495 --> 01:15:48,502
♪ ♪

1591
01:16:08,188 --> 01:16:10,732
I first thought
about the possibility of 900s

1592
01:16:10,816 --> 01:16:13,485
after learning 720s in 1985.

1593
01:16:13,568 --> 01:16:15,237
♪ ♪

1594
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:16,947
I didn't actually have
the nerve to try it

1595
01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:20,158
until 1987
at a skate camp in France.

1596
01:16:20,242 --> 01:16:22,119
♪ ♪

1597
01:16:22,202 --> 01:16:24,788
I ended up trying it
a few times.

1598
01:16:24,871 --> 01:16:28,000
I didn't understand
where I was in the air

1599
01:16:28,083 --> 01:16:32,004
and ended up landing
on my back twice.

1600
01:16:32,087 --> 01:16:35,966
I wasn't ready to commit
to that spin.

1601
01:16:36,049 --> 01:16:37,676
- We had a lot
of other skaters

1602
01:16:37,759 --> 01:16:38,969
chasing the 900,

1603
01:16:39,052 --> 01:16:41,388
and just because it had been
going on for so long,

1604
01:16:41,471 --> 01:16:42,514
which no other trick had,

1605
01:16:42,597 --> 01:16:45,726
it kind of got some, like,
holy grail aspect to it

1606
01:16:45,809 --> 01:16:48,020
that I've never seen
any other trick

1607
01:16:48,103 --> 01:16:49,896
treated like that
with the skate community.

1608
01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:54,693
♪ ♪

1609
01:16:54,776 --> 01:16:59,489
It became a trick that
a lot of people are trying.

1610
01:16:59,573 --> 01:17:01,241
Everyone kept getting
a little close.

1611
01:17:01,325 --> 01:17:02,326
Like, they could spin,

1612
01:17:02,409 --> 01:17:03,827
but then they'd land
and keep whipping out.

1613
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:06,038
There was always--
you would be close enough

1614
01:17:06,121 --> 01:17:07,205
to kind of taste it,

1615
01:17:07,289 --> 01:17:08,999
but there'd be one--
something missing

1616
01:17:09,082 --> 01:17:12,544
that would make it totally
almost impossible to land.

1617
01:17:12,627 --> 01:17:16,048
♪ ♪

1618
01:17:16,131 --> 01:17:19,551
- There were a couple times
in my pursuit of doing a 900

1619
01:17:19,634 --> 01:17:23,055
that I really was
done with it.

1620
01:17:23,138 --> 01:17:26,224
The first time I tried
to really make one,

1621
01:17:26,308 --> 01:17:28,727
I was leaning forward too far,
and I broke my rib

1622
01:17:28,810 --> 01:17:31,730
when I--like, I just fell
into the flat bottom.

1623
01:17:31,813 --> 01:17:34,066
[thud echoes]

1624
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:36,860
That was at a time
when I wasn't really making

1625
01:17:36,943 --> 01:17:39,071
a good living skating.

1626
01:17:39,154 --> 01:17:41,531
I'll never forget that day,
because I was trying it--

1627
01:17:41,615 --> 01:17:44,910
my son Riley,
he was in kindergarten.

1628
01:17:44,993 --> 01:17:47,371
I was late to pick him up
to kindergarten

1629
01:17:47,454 --> 01:17:49,581
'cause I was stuck trying
this trick on the ramp.

1630
01:17:49,664 --> 01:17:51,666
I broke my rib trying it,

1631
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:53,627
but I still had to get there
to pick him up.

1632
01:17:53,710 --> 01:17:55,337
♪ ♪

1633
01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:57,714
It was a moment in life
where it was like,

1634
01:17:57,798 --> 01:17:59,800
"What am I doing?"

1635
01:17:59,883 --> 01:18:06,848
♪ ♪

1636
01:18:06,932 --> 01:18:08,725
"I just can't do it."

1637
01:18:08,809 --> 01:18:15,732
♪ ♪

1638
01:18:17,567 --> 01:18:20,237
- They'd been trying it
for so long, right?

1639
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,740
I think it was almost 12 years.

1640
01:18:23,824 --> 01:18:26,076
- You ever not committed
to a landing on a trick

1641
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:27,494
before in your life?

1642
01:18:29,413 --> 01:18:32,040
- That's a good question.

1643
01:18:32,124 --> 01:18:36,628
I had never gotten so close
to a trick and given up on it.

1644
01:18:36,711 --> 01:18:38,130
Never.

1645
01:18:38,213 --> 01:18:40,298
Someone's got to do this.

1646
01:18:40,382 --> 01:18:42,509
Someone's got to break
through this boundary.

1647
01:18:42,592 --> 01:18:45,512
[Buzzcocks'
"Why Can't I Touch It?"]

1648
01:18:45,595 --> 01:18:52,561
♪ ♪

1649
01:19:04,322 --> 01:19:07,159
- ♪ Well, it seems so real ♪

1650
01:19:07,242 --> 01:19:09,661
♪ I can see it ♪

1651
01:19:09,744 --> 01:19:12,789
♪ And it seems so real ♪

1652
01:19:12,873 --> 01:19:15,333
♪ I can feel it ♪

1653
01:19:15,417 --> 01:19:18,545
♪ And it seems so real ♪

1654
01:19:18,628 --> 01:19:21,006
♪ I can taste it ♪

1655
01:19:21,089 --> 01:19:24,342
♪ And it seems so real ♪

1656
01:19:24,426 --> 01:19:27,012
♪ I can hear it ♪

1657
01:19:27,095 --> 01:19:32,184
♪ So why ♪

1658
01:19:32,267 --> 01:19:34,853
♪ Can't I touch it? ♪

1659
01:19:34,936 --> 01:19:38,148
♪ ♪

1660
01:19:38,231 --> 01:19:43,361
♪ So why ♪

1661
01:19:43,445 --> 01:19:45,697
♪ Can't I touch it? ♪

1662
01:19:45,780 --> 01:19:49,117
♪ ♪

1663
01:19:49,201 --> 01:19:50,911
- When he's going
after a trick,

1664
01:19:50,994 --> 01:19:52,662
you can watch him
get closer and closer,

1665
01:19:52,746 --> 01:19:54,998
'cause he's making little
adjustments in his head.

1666
01:19:55,081 --> 01:19:57,667
- ♪ Then it looks so real ♪

1667
01:19:57,751 --> 01:20:00,170
♪ I can see it ♪

1668
01:20:00,253 --> 01:20:03,340
♪ And it feels so real ♪

1669
01:20:03,423 --> 01:20:05,884
♪ I can feel it ♪

1670
01:20:05,967 --> 01:20:08,553
♪ And it tastes so real ♪

1671
01:20:08,637 --> 01:20:12,516
- [yells]
[onlookers exclaim]

1672
01:20:12,599 --> 01:20:14,267
- When he knows
he's getting close,

1673
01:20:14,351 --> 01:20:17,270
he does not give up on a trick
unless his body breaks.

1674
01:20:17,354 --> 01:20:20,148
He'll just throw himself
and slam, slam, slam, slam.

1675
01:20:20,232 --> 01:20:22,859
- ♪ So why ♪

1676
01:20:22,943 --> 01:20:26,238
♪ Can't I touch it? ♪

1677
01:20:26,321 --> 01:20:28,865
- The 900
was a little different,

1678
01:20:28,949 --> 01:20:31,701
'cause that really trashes
your body super quick.

1679
01:20:31,785 --> 01:20:33,995
- ♪ So why ♪

1680
01:20:34,079 --> 01:20:36,581
♪ Can't I touch it? ♪

1681
01:20:36,665 --> 01:20:43,505
♪ ♪

1682
01:20:44,506 --> 01:20:45,757
- I still don't get it, man.

1683
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,969
I don't know how Tony can keep
spinning it and keep his mind.

1684
01:20:49,052 --> 01:20:52,847
Like, it's got to make you
fuckin' freak out.

1685
01:20:52,931 --> 01:20:56,601
Like, a 720.
And then the 900? Like, how?

1686
01:20:56,685 --> 01:21:00,146
It's too hard.
It's just too much spinning.

1687
01:21:00,230 --> 01:21:04,150
- He tried to do it
in a bullring in Tijuana.

1688
01:21:04,234 --> 01:21:06,736
And he had another attempt

1689
01:21:06,820 --> 01:21:09,698
where I thought
it was gonna kill him.

1690
01:21:09,781 --> 01:21:12,367
His pursuit of that
was personal,

1691
01:21:12,450 --> 01:21:14,369
but it was also at a time
when skateboarding

1692
01:21:14,452 --> 01:21:18,081
was just kind of coming back up
into being popular again.

1693
01:21:18,164 --> 01:21:19,916
- Well, the X Games gave him

1694
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,502
the biggest platform
he's ever had.

1695
01:21:22,586 --> 01:21:24,796
- I heard ESPN was
gonna do an event

1696
01:21:24,879 --> 01:21:26,131
and include skateboarding.

1697
01:21:26,214 --> 01:21:29,175
I was like, "Skateboarding
is gonna be on ESPN.

1698
01:21:29,259 --> 01:21:30,760
That means something."

1699
01:21:30,844 --> 01:21:32,971
I was hyped, 'cause I had
never quit skating vert.

1700
01:21:33,054 --> 01:21:36,224
- The technical difficulty
is just immense,

1701
01:21:36,308 --> 01:21:37,809
and this guy pulls it off

1702
01:21:37,893 --> 01:21:39,978
as if he's going
for a walk through the park.

1703
01:21:40,061 --> 01:21:42,272
- I was there
for the first X Games.

1704
01:21:42,355 --> 01:21:43,732
I was there
for "The Tony Hawk Show,"

1705
01:21:43,815 --> 01:21:46,568
as all the other skaters
called it.

1706
01:21:46,651 --> 01:21:49,321
He won the vert contest.
He won the street contest.

1707
01:21:49,404 --> 01:21:50,530
- Tony Hawk.

1708
01:21:50,614 --> 01:21:52,115
- After the first X Games,

1709
01:21:52,198 --> 01:21:54,659
there was a little bit
more interest.

1710
01:21:54,743 --> 01:21:56,661
It raised the bar
a little bit.

1711
01:21:56,745 --> 01:21:58,913
[cheers and applause]

1712
01:21:58,997 --> 01:22:01,124
And then when the second
X Games came around,

1713
01:22:01,207 --> 01:22:03,335
that's when you could tell
something was happening.

1714
01:22:03,418 --> 01:22:05,170
- Riley Hawk.

1715
01:22:05,253 --> 01:22:08,006
His father has
locked up the gold medal.

1716
01:22:08,089 --> 01:22:11,092
[cheers and applause]

1717
01:22:13,637 --> 01:22:15,680
- He is going huge.

1718
01:22:15,764 --> 01:22:17,682
[cheers and applause]

1719
01:22:17,766 --> 01:22:22,187
Gymnastics has its Nadia,
but skateboarding has Hawk.

1720
01:22:22,270 --> 01:22:24,689
- Nobody else skates
like Tony Hawk.

1721
01:22:24,773 --> 01:22:26,107
- He is a hero.

1722
01:22:26,191 --> 01:22:27,776
- Tony Hawk,
the best skateboarder

1723
01:22:27,859 --> 01:22:29,402
the sport has ever seen.
- Tony Hawk.

1724
01:22:29,486 --> 01:22:32,280
That is the best
skateboarder in the world.

1725
01:22:32,364 --> 01:22:35,325
[cheers and applause]

1726
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,164
- Hi, Dad.

1727
01:22:41,247 --> 01:22:43,166
I know that we don't get
to talk too much

1728
01:22:43,249 --> 01:22:44,334
about what you do around here,

1729
01:22:44,417 --> 01:22:46,544
but I just want you to know
that I appreciate it,

1730
01:22:46,628 --> 01:22:51,466
and...that we just thought
that we'd make a video

1731
01:22:51,549 --> 01:22:54,678
saying thanks
for all the great stuff.

1732
01:22:56,346 --> 01:23:00,767
My siblings and my mom and I
had steeled ourself,

1733
01:23:00,850 --> 01:23:03,603
ready for him to have
a heart attack at any minute,

1734
01:23:03,687 --> 01:23:05,814
because he just didn't
take care of himself.

1735
01:23:05,897 --> 01:23:07,816
And it was like,
that's what's gonna happen.

1736
01:23:07,899 --> 01:23:12,654
And we all almost were all
waiting for that to happen.

1737
01:23:12,737 --> 01:23:14,406
So we all had prepared
ourselves for that,

1738
01:23:14,489 --> 01:23:17,033
and then one day,

1739
01:23:17,117 --> 01:23:19,869
he finds out
he has lung cancer.

1740
01:23:19,953 --> 01:23:22,706
He was in his final stages,

1741
01:23:22,789 --> 01:23:26,209
super rail thin, stuck in bed.

1742
01:23:26,292 --> 01:23:28,253
I went on this tour in Europe,

1743
01:23:28,336 --> 01:23:31,297
and I just felt weird
about being there,

1744
01:23:31,381 --> 01:23:34,426
'cause I knew
that he was degrading rapidly,

1745
01:23:34,509 --> 01:23:36,469
so I came home early
from the tour.

1746
01:23:36,553 --> 01:23:39,139
And he said,
"You have to do your thing.

1747
01:23:39,222 --> 01:23:41,349
You can't just sit here
and watch me die."

1748
01:23:41,433 --> 01:23:44,894
For the most part,
sent me to Woodward.

1749
01:23:44,978 --> 01:23:47,605
I heard a call
over the intercom.

1750
01:23:47,689 --> 01:23:50,567
"Tony Hawk, will you please
pick up the phone?"

1751
01:23:51,609 --> 01:23:53,403
When my mom called me
at Woodward,

1752
01:23:53,486 --> 01:23:55,405
she just broke down crying
and just said,

1753
01:23:55,488 --> 01:23:57,991
"He loved you so much."

1754
01:23:58,074 --> 01:23:59,325
And that was the first time

1755
01:23:59,409 --> 01:24:02,579
she really got emotional
about my dad.

1756
01:24:02,662 --> 01:24:05,623
[somber music]

1757
01:24:05,707 --> 01:24:12,714
♪ ♪

1758
01:24:42,035 --> 01:24:43,620
- It's a very unique sport.

1759
01:24:43,703 --> 01:24:45,330
It's the only sport
in the world I know

1760
01:24:45,413 --> 01:24:47,624
where competitors--
I've watched 'em in the middle

1761
01:24:47,707 --> 01:24:50,043
of heavy competition
encouraging each other.

1762
01:24:50,126 --> 01:24:52,504
[skateboard wheels rumbling]

1763
01:24:52,587 --> 01:24:54,798
And earnestly
encouraging each other.

1764
01:24:54,881 --> 01:24:57,175
Not many competitions do that.

1765
01:24:57,258 --> 01:24:58,968
- So you think
it's a good sport?

1766
01:24:59,052 --> 01:25:01,012
- Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Definitely.

1767
01:25:01,095 --> 01:25:03,181
And I'd like to see it
continue as a sport.

1768
01:25:06,267 --> 01:25:07,560
- I can guarantee you

1769
01:25:07,644 --> 01:25:09,813
that every single one
of those skateboarders today

1770
01:25:09,896 --> 01:25:11,356
would look back on him fondly.

1771
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,191
Guarantee it.

1772
01:25:13,274 --> 01:25:14,859
I guarantee it.

1773
01:25:16,361 --> 01:25:17,862
- His dad was like
a second dad to me.

1774
01:25:17,946 --> 01:25:21,324
Like, he was just
an amazing person.

1775
01:25:21,407 --> 01:25:24,702
- I could only imagine,
you know, my family

1776
01:25:24,786 --> 01:25:26,704
doing what his family
did for him, you know?

1777
01:25:26,788 --> 01:25:28,790
Like, I would dream about that.

1778
01:25:28,873 --> 01:25:30,416
Like, "Wow, what would
that be like?

1779
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:32,252
Nah, my dad
would never do that."

1780
01:25:32,335 --> 01:25:36,881
♪ ♪

1781
01:25:36,965 --> 01:25:41,177
- Tony had me do something
right when his dad died,

1782
01:25:41,261 --> 01:25:44,055
and I was talking shit
at that thing.

1783
01:25:44,138 --> 01:25:49,227
I think I said something
real stupid in an interview.

1784
01:25:49,310 --> 01:25:52,647
"Glad he's gone,"
or something fucked up.

1785
01:25:52,730 --> 01:25:55,733
X Games, he's up there riding.

1786
01:25:55,817 --> 01:25:58,361
My son just died ten days ago.

1787
01:25:58,444 --> 01:25:59,696
He's got me.

1788
01:25:59,779 --> 01:26:01,656
So I get up there
and I'm like--

1789
01:26:01,739 --> 01:26:03,741
and the first thing I said was,

1790
01:26:03,825 --> 01:26:05,326
"Got me now, motherfucker.

1791
01:26:05,410 --> 01:26:06,828
What are you gonna say?"

1792
01:26:06,911 --> 01:26:11,749
And then he goes, "Duane,
I'm super sorry about Chess."

1793
01:26:11,833 --> 01:26:14,210
I fucking--I mean...

1794
01:26:17,213 --> 01:26:18,756
And he goes,
"You got a minute?"

1795
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,633
'Cause cameras are on this guy

1796
01:26:20,717 --> 01:26:22,802
every-fucking-where he goes.

1797
01:26:22,886 --> 01:26:26,097
So it's like,
we go down to some, like, area

1798
01:26:26,180 --> 01:26:28,975
and fucking away from--
and just total

1799
01:26:29,058 --> 01:26:32,979
personal fucking cool--
like, what the fuck?

1800
01:26:33,062 --> 01:26:35,607
What a cool--I didn't--
you know,

1801
01:26:35,690 --> 01:26:37,066
I didn't expect that.

1802
01:26:37,150 --> 01:26:38,568
That was nice.

1803
01:26:38,651 --> 01:26:40,570
And I was really blown away.

1804
01:26:40,653 --> 01:26:42,864
Like, my kid
fucking looked up to him,

1805
01:26:42,947 --> 01:26:45,825
and I let him know that.

1806
01:26:45,909 --> 01:26:48,995
You know?
"He looked up to you, man."

1807
01:26:49,078 --> 01:26:51,080
[sniffles]

1808
01:26:51,164 --> 01:26:53,708
So I look at things

1809
01:26:53,791 --> 01:26:56,294
totally fucking different,
you know?

1810
01:26:56,377 --> 01:26:58,755
And...

1811
01:26:58,838 --> 01:27:02,508
you know...

1812
01:27:02,592 --> 01:27:06,512
when his--his dad died

1813
01:27:06,596 --> 01:27:08,723
and I said that in the--

1814
01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:14,270
'Cause it was just me and him.

1815
01:27:14,354 --> 01:27:16,898
And, you know,
that's how life works.

1816
01:27:16,981 --> 01:27:19,025
It's a fucking weird game.

1817
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,446
And all that
baton twirling shit,

1818
01:27:23,529 --> 01:27:26,324
he fucking stepped it up
for all of us.

1819
01:27:26,407 --> 01:27:27,575
All that fucking shit--

1820
01:27:27,659 --> 01:27:30,620
you know how much time it takes
to learn tricks like that?

1821
01:27:33,164 --> 01:27:34,832
- Okay, everybody.

1822
01:27:34,916 --> 01:27:37,335
We want to hear everybody
in the house right now.

1823
01:27:37,418 --> 01:27:38,670
Boys, girls,

1824
01:27:38,753 --> 01:27:40,463
ladies, and gentlemen,

1825
01:27:40,546 --> 01:27:41,673
wrapping up

1826
01:27:41,756 --> 01:27:42,674
our Best Tricks contest.

1827
01:27:42,757 --> 01:27:43,675
But don't forget,

1828
01:27:43,758 --> 01:27:45,134
you're gonna pick the winner.

1829
01:27:45,218 --> 01:27:47,512
Right now,
Tony's got a shot at it.

1830
01:27:47,595 --> 01:27:49,973
Can he do it?
Let's see it.

1831
01:27:50,056 --> 01:27:52,725
[cheers and applause]

1832
01:27:52,809 --> 01:27:54,477
- Yeah.

1833
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,314
900, try not to--look at him
focused out here.

1834
01:27:58,398 --> 01:28:01,526
- We love you, crowd!
We love you!

1835
01:28:01,609 --> 01:28:03,611
- Yeah.
Keep it up. Keep it up.

1836
01:28:03,695 --> 01:28:06,364
900! 900!

1837
01:28:06,447 --> 01:28:08,116
This could be it.

1838
01:28:08,199 --> 01:28:09,450
Oh!

1839
01:28:09,534 --> 01:28:12,203
- Oh, the closest one!

1840
01:28:12,286 --> 01:28:14,539
- There was always
one or two really small things

1841
01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:17,041
that made the 9
almost impossible to land.

1842
01:28:17,125 --> 01:28:19,711
And I think one
of those things clicked there,

1843
01:28:19,794 --> 01:28:22,422
and he went,
"I'm--I actually felt better

1844
01:28:22,505 --> 01:28:24,048
"than I've ever felt
spinning that 9,

1845
01:28:24,132 --> 01:28:26,009
so I'm not gonna stop."

1846
01:28:26,092 --> 01:28:27,969
- You guys, you guys
want to see one more?

1847
01:28:28,052 --> 01:28:29,721
Tony Hawk coming close.

1848
01:28:29,804 --> 01:28:30,888
- Here we go, folks.

1849
01:28:30,972 --> 01:28:33,057
- History in the making.

1850
01:28:33,141 --> 01:28:35,351
Who wouldn't want
to be right here?

1851
01:28:35,435 --> 01:28:36,978
Making history.

1852
01:28:37,061 --> 01:28:40,064
Never, ever been done before
on the skateboard.

1853
01:28:40,148 --> 01:28:42,191
He's coming close.

1854
01:28:42,275 --> 01:28:44,318
Yeah, here we go.
900!

1855
01:28:44,402 --> 01:28:46,404
900!

1856
01:28:46,487 --> 01:28:49,198
[cheers and applause]

1857
01:28:49,282 --> 01:28:52,869
Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho!

1858
01:28:52,952 --> 01:28:56,080
- Oh, baby!

1859
01:28:56,164 --> 01:28:57,665
All right, stomp your feet!

1860
01:28:57,749 --> 01:28:59,751
[cheers and applause]

1861
01:28:59,834 --> 01:29:03,087
[skateboards banging]

1862
01:29:03,171 --> 01:29:06,758
[cheering intensifying]

1863
01:29:25,151 --> 01:29:28,112
[crowd exclaiming]

1864
01:29:33,201 --> 01:29:35,620
- You saw him going inward
more and more and more

1865
01:29:35,703 --> 01:29:38,122
each and every time,
and you knew--or I knew,

1866
01:29:38,206 --> 01:29:42,001
watching, like,
he really isn't gonna stop.

1867
01:29:42,085 --> 01:29:44,170
And I had been there
when he'd only stopped before

1868
01:29:44,253 --> 01:29:46,297
'cause he broke a rib.

1869
01:29:46,380 --> 01:29:49,634
- He just said, "I'm either
gonna make this trick,

1870
01:29:49,717 --> 01:29:52,303
"or someone's gonna
take me off in a stretcher.

1871
01:29:52,386 --> 01:29:53,763
That's how it's gonna go."

1872
01:29:53,846 --> 01:29:56,808
[cheers, whistles]

1873
01:30:00,728 --> 01:30:03,648
all: Tony! Tony! Tony!

1874
01:30:17,703 --> 01:30:20,414
[crowd exclaiming]

1875
01:30:27,380 --> 01:30:30,883
all: Tony! Tony! Tony! Tony!

1876
01:30:30,967 --> 01:30:33,511
[crowd exclaiming]

1877
01:30:33,594 --> 01:30:35,054
- It was almost as if his mind
was going...

1878
01:30:35,138 --> 01:30:38,641
[imitating squishing]

1879
01:30:38,724 --> 01:30:40,685
You know, squishing down
further and further.

1880
01:30:40,768 --> 01:30:43,229
And you can just see...

1881
01:30:43,312 --> 01:30:46,107
how much intensity
it took from him.

1882
01:30:46,190 --> 01:30:48,192
[cheers and applause]

1883
01:30:48,276 --> 01:30:50,987
- 9! 9! 9! 9!

1884
01:30:51,070 --> 01:30:53,364
9! 9!

1885
01:30:53,447 --> 01:30:55,867
There it is!

1886
01:30:55,950 --> 01:30:58,953
[cheers, whistles]

1887
01:31:00,621 --> 01:31:02,874
[announcers speaking
indistinctly]

1888
01:31:02,957 --> 01:31:04,375
- This is important
to this guy.

1889
01:31:04,458 --> 01:31:06,669
He's focused.
He is prepped.

1890
01:31:06,752 --> 01:31:08,254
This is history in the making.

1891
01:31:08,337 --> 01:31:09,881
[speaking indistinctly]

1892
01:31:09,964 --> 01:31:13,092
[cheers, whistles]

1893
01:31:14,510 --> 01:31:16,679
9! 9!
Tony Hawk!

1894
01:31:16,762 --> 01:31:20,516
Tony Hawk!
Tony! Tony! Tony!

1895
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,518
900!

1896
01:31:22,602 --> 01:31:25,897
900!

1897
01:31:25,980 --> 01:31:29,442
Oh!
So close.

1898
01:31:29,525 --> 01:31:32,945
The closest I've ever
seen anyone before.

1899
01:31:34,614 --> 01:31:40,036
Ooh, what is going on in 1999
in vertical skateboard history?

1900
01:31:40,119 --> 01:31:42,747
- We got Andy.

1901
01:31:42,830 --> 01:31:44,707
- All this energy.
These guys are going on.

1902
01:31:44,790 --> 01:31:47,627
[speaking indistinctly]

1903
01:31:47,710 --> 01:31:50,630
[cheers and applause]

1904
01:31:50,713 --> 01:31:52,465
Everybody picture it.
Here we go.

1905
01:31:55,051 --> 01:31:58,054
[cheers and applause]

1906
01:32:01,224 --> 01:32:04,435
- Yeah!
- Oh!

1907
01:32:04,518 --> 01:32:06,687
Are you kidding me?

1908
01:32:06,771 --> 01:32:09,607
Yeah!
Look at this!

1909
01:32:09,690 --> 01:32:12,985
Tony Hawk, everybody!

1910
01:32:13,069 --> 01:32:14,737
Yeah!
Look at this!

1911
01:32:14,820 --> 01:32:17,740
[soft music]

1912
01:32:17,823 --> 01:32:24,789
♪ ♪

1913
01:32:53,276 --> 01:32:55,027
- I've never seen Tony

1914
01:32:55,111 --> 01:32:58,614
explosively emotional
like that.

1915
01:32:58,698 --> 01:33:01,450
Says a lot about that sense

1916
01:33:01,534 --> 01:33:04,120
of what he found out
about himself

1917
01:33:04,203 --> 01:33:06,205
by making himself
do that trick.

1918
01:33:07,373 --> 01:33:10,501
- It had nothing to do
with the physical motions

1919
01:33:10,585 --> 01:33:11,502
of that trick.

1920
01:33:11,585 --> 01:33:13,546
It was all here.

1921
01:33:13,629 --> 01:33:17,133
♪ ♪

1922
01:33:17,216 --> 01:33:19,844
- It's just a trick.

1923
01:33:19,927 --> 01:33:22,888
But to me, the ones that make
the most difference

1924
01:33:22,972 --> 01:33:25,516
in who I am as a man,

1925
01:33:25,599 --> 01:33:28,060
as a person...

1926
01:33:28,144 --> 01:33:29,812
is when you've redlined it
so much

1927
01:33:29,895 --> 01:33:32,148
that you did something
that you didn't know

1928
01:33:32,231 --> 01:33:34,150
if you had it in you to do it.

1929
01:33:34,233 --> 01:33:37,403
That's a different
kind of proving ground.

1930
01:33:38,988 --> 01:33:41,198
That shifts something
within you.

1931
01:33:41,282 --> 01:33:46,912
♪ ♪

1932
01:33:46,996 --> 01:33:51,250
- I could feel
the thrill that I got

1933
01:33:51,334 --> 01:33:53,544
from anything I've done
through him.

1934
01:33:53,627 --> 01:33:55,212
It was huge.

1935
01:33:55,296 --> 01:33:59,884
Like, I was so excited
to see him do that.

1936
01:33:59,967 --> 01:34:02,970
So excited and happy for him.

1937
01:34:03,054 --> 01:34:05,222
You know, I just knew
what was going on.

1938
01:34:05,306 --> 01:34:09,060
Like, I've never reached that,

1939
01:34:09,143 --> 01:34:10,770
because I'll never do a 900.

1940
01:34:10,853 --> 01:34:12,271
But I've reached it
in other things.

1941
01:34:12,355 --> 01:34:15,191
And just the feel of that
and the win of that

1942
01:34:15,274 --> 01:34:17,693
and the--it's just rad.

1943
01:34:17,777 --> 01:34:18,861
It's huge.

1944
01:34:18,944 --> 01:34:21,405
It's so--it's killer.
It's so good.

1945
01:34:23,616 --> 01:34:26,327
- Sean Mortimer called me up,
like, two minutes

1946
01:34:26,410 --> 01:34:28,662
after he landed it
from the ramp and said,

1947
01:34:28,746 --> 01:34:31,040
"Your brother just landed a 9!

1948
01:34:31,123 --> 01:34:34,043
It's like a war ended!"
[laughs]

1949
01:34:34,126 --> 01:34:37,129
♪ ♪

1950
01:34:37,213 --> 01:34:38,881
The thing I love about the 900

1951
01:34:38,964 --> 01:34:41,675
that doesn't get talked about
much was that...

1952
01:34:41,759 --> 01:34:44,220
that moment is kind of
in sports history,

1953
01:34:44,303 --> 01:34:46,263
which really was a moment
in sports history,

1954
01:34:46,347 --> 01:34:48,474
could only have happened
in skateboarding,

1955
01:34:48,557 --> 01:34:51,894
because any other sport,

1956
01:34:51,977 --> 01:34:54,105
the clock ran out.

1957
01:34:54,188 --> 01:34:55,439
It was done.

1958
01:34:55,523 --> 01:34:56,899
Like, that wouldn't
have happened

1959
01:34:56,982 --> 01:34:58,651
if they'd had skateboarding
in the Olympics,

1960
01:34:58,734 --> 01:35:00,277
'cause you know,
once the clock ran out,

1961
01:35:00,361 --> 01:35:03,239
they would have run up
and chained up the ramp

1962
01:35:03,322 --> 01:35:05,491
and said, "Okay, we're done."
But the--

1963
01:35:05,574 --> 01:35:08,077
- The irony is, if your dad
was running the--

1964
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,370
- Oh, my God.

1965
01:35:09,453 --> 01:35:10,621
You know,
that just occurred to me.

1966
01:35:10,704 --> 01:35:11,997
If my dad had been
running the show,

1967
01:35:12,081 --> 01:35:13,916
it wouldn't have happened.

1968
01:35:13,999 --> 01:35:16,961
Fuck.
That just occurred to me.

1969
01:35:19,088 --> 01:35:22,466
- I wish my dad had been able
to see the recognition

1970
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:24,260
and the appreciation
that skateboarding got

1971
01:35:24,343 --> 01:35:26,470
after '99, 2000.

1972
01:35:26,554 --> 01:35:28,639
Even in his wildest dreams,

1973
01:35:28,722 --> 01:35:31,642
he thought that skateboard
contests would be bigger,

1974
01:35:31,725 --> 01:35:34,353
but he would have
never imagined

1975
01:35:34,437 --> 01:35:36,605
that it blew up the way it did.

1976
01:35:36,689 --> 01:35:38,023
[explosion booms]

1977
01:35:38,107 --> 01:35:40,317
- Las Vegas,
put your hands together

1978
01:35:40,401 --> 01:35:43,320
for the Boom Boom HuckJam!

1979
01:35:43,404 --> 01:35:45,489
[cheers and applause]

1980
01:35:45,573 --> 01:35:48,492
[Social Distortion's
"Story of My Life"]

1981
01:35:48,576 --> 01:35:55,207
♪ ♪

1982
01:35:57,877 --> 01:36:00,546
- Whoo-hoo!

1983
01:36:00,629 --> 01:36:07,636
♪ ♪

1984
01:36:09,472 --> 01:36:12,266
- Suddenly,
we were rock stars again,

1985
01:36:12,349 --> 01:36:15,186
but on a completely
different level.

1986
01:36:15,269 --> 01:36:16,353
[fireworks boom]

1987
01:36:16,437 --> 01:36:21,066
Performing in arenas,
selling out night after night.

1988
01:36:21,150 --> 01:36:22,651
We had a setup
that filled an arena floor.

1989
01:36:22,735 --> 01:36:24,820
We were way bigger
than a rock tour.

1990
01:36:24,904 --> 01:36:26,489
We filled
the entire arena floor

1991
01:36:26,572 --> 01:36:29,283
with ramps and lights,
pyrotechnics.

1992
01:36:29,366 --> 01:36:32,203
- ♪ Like such a blur ♪

1993
01:36:32,286 --> 01:36:34,038
- It was high-pressure
skateboarding.

1994
01:36:34,121 --> 01:36:35,956
It was like,
you have to make this trick,

1995
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:37,625
or a motorcycle
could land on you.

1996
01:36:37,708 --> 01:36:41,045
- ♪ In class,
I dreamed all day ♪

1997
01:36:41,128 --> 01:36:43,589
- I can remember watching
the Boom Boom HuckJam,

1998
01:36:43,672 --> 01:36:47,593
and other ladies my age were--
just couldn't watch.

1999
01:36:47,676 --> 01:36:49,011
Their hands were
over their face,

2000
01:36:49,094 --> 01:36:51,096
and they were just terrified.

2001
01:36:51,180 --> 01:36:53,557
- ♪ So close, yet so far,
you know ♪

2002
01:36:53,641 --> 01:36:56,769
♪ She never seemed to notice ♪

2003
01:36:56,852 --> 01:36:58,229
- Every night was a new city.

2004
01:36:58,312 --> 01:37:01,565
They would put a piece of tape
on the deck of the ramp.

2005
01:37:01,649 --> 01:37:03,025
When they handed you
the microphone,

2006
01:37:03,108 --> 01:37:04,652
you could glance down
at that tape

2007
01:37:04,735 --> 01:37:06,529
so you didn't go...

2008
01:37:06,612 --> 01:37:09,156
"Thank you, Philadelphia,"
and you're really in Chicago.

2009
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:10,866
♪ ♪

2010
01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:12,117
- Living in the lap of luxury.

2011
01:37:12,201 --> 01:37:15,079
Like, people were providing
for us at every turn.

2012
01:37:17,289 --> 01:37:20,292
Flying in and out of the tour
on Tony's private jet,

2013
01:37:20,376 --> 01:37:22,253
staying in these great hotels.

2014
01:37:22,336 --> 01:37:23,921
♪ ♪

2015
01:37:24,004 --> 01:37:26,173
- It's all younger dudes,
mostly single.

2016
01:37:26,257 --> 01:37:29,093
And it was just like,
the world is yours.

2017
01:37:29,176 --> 01:37:30,970
You guys are, you know,
Led Zeppelin tonight.

2018
01:37:31,053 --> 01:37:32,930
♪ ♪

2019
01:37:33,013 --> 01:37:35,266
- ♪ Story of my life ♪

2020
01:37:35,349 --> 01:37:37,434
- "Come on, Tony, let's go!
We got this club downtown."

2021
01:37:37,518 --> 01:37:40,062
Like, the tour manager
would call ahead and be like,

2022
01:37:40,145 --> 01:37:43,399
"Hey, we got Tony Hawk coming.
Make sure the door's open."

2023
01:37:43,482 --> 01:37:45,317
- ♪ The faces
have all changed ♪

2024
01:37:45,401 --> 01:37:48,070
♪ There's no one there
left to talk to ♪

2025
01:37:48,153 --> 01:37:51,240
♪ And the pool hall
that I loved as a kid ♪

2026
01:37:51,323 --> 01:37:53,117
- There's a part of that
where it's like,

2027
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,245
"Okay, so now what?
So now you're a rock star?

2028
01:37:56,328 --> 01:37:59,290
So now you have
all this excess?"

2029
01:37:59,373 --> 01:38:01,292
- ♪ To look for a job ♪

2030
01:38:01,375 --> 01:38:02,501
♪ ♪

2031
01:38:02,585 --> 01:38:04,712
♪ I had no training ♪

2032
01:38:04,795 --> 01:38:07,798
- You know, Activision came
to him to do the video game,

2033
01:38:07,881 --> 01:38:09,258
and it was the best company,

2034
01:38:09,341 --> 01:38:10,634
and they had
the best developer,

2035
01:38:10,718 --> 01:38:13,137
and, you know, he was hands-on.

2036
01:38:13,220 --> 01:38:16,181
- ♪ Oh ♪

2037
01:38:16,265 --> 01:38:18,017
♪ ♪

2038
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:20,311
- They developed this game
that he never thought

2039
01:38:20,394 --> 01:38:24,064
was gonna be particularly
popular amongst everybody.

2040
01:38:24,148 --> 01:38:26,609
He thought skaters
would like it.

2041
01:38:26,692 --> 01:38:28,611
- When the fourth game
was released,

2042
01:38:28,694 --> 01:38:30,863
the first three were still
in the top ten of sales.

2043
01:38:30,946 --> 01:38:33,490
And Activision called
a meeting with me.

2044
01:38:33,574 --> 01:38:35,492
I went and met one of the guys
I worked with.

2045
01:38:35,576 --> 01:38:37,494
I met him for lunch,
and he said--

2046
01:38:37,578 --> 01:38:38,996
he explained to me
what was happening.

2047
01:38:39,079 --> 01:38:40,623
He's like, "Well,
this is in the top sales,

2048
01:38:40,706 --> 01:38:41,790
and now it's a best hit."

2049
01:38:41,874 --> 01:38:42,791
I go, "What does that mean?"

2050
01:38:42,875 --> 01:38:44,168
He goes,
"This is what it means,"

2051
01:38:44,251 --> 01:38:47,504
and he hands me a check
for $4.5 million.

2052
01:38:47,588 --> 01:38:50,674
And I was like, "Oh, my God."

2053
01:38:50,758 --> 01:38:52,343
And then two years later,

2054
01:38:52,426 --> 01:38:54,553
they gave me an advance
of $20 million.

2055
01:38:54,637 --> 01:38:57,765
- Tony was getting recognized
everywhere.

2056
01:38:57,848 --> 01:39:00,184
He was the face
of skateboarding.

2057
01:39:00,267 --> 01:39:02,895
- I never got into
skateboarding to be famous.

2058
01:39:02,978 --> 01:39:04,855
I never thought I'd be famous.

2059
01:39:04,938 --> 01:39:06,899
And then I was famous,
and I was like,

2060
01:39:06,982 --> 01:39:08,817
"Well, I'm famous now.

2061
01:39:08,901 --> 01:39:12,154
I guess I'm supposed to do
all this stuff."

2062
01:39:12,237 --> 01:39:15,407
But it's the worst drug.

2063
01:39:15,491 --> 01:39:16,533
It's the worst drug.

2064
01:39:16,617 --> 01:39:17,618
- You got to let him go.

2065
01:39:17,701 --> 01:39:18,911
Come on, let him go through.

2066
01:39:18,994 --> 01:39:20,204
- And it's so easy
to fall into.

2067
01:39:20,287 --> 01:39:21,997
It's crazy.

2068
01:39:22,081 --> 01:39:23,666
There was infidelity,

2069
01:39:23,749 --> 01:39:27,419
lying to myself
about justification,

2070
01:39:27,503 --> 01:39:29,380
you know, not being honest
with others,

2071
01:39:29,463 --> 01:39:31,423
not being honest with myself.

2072
01:39:31,507 --> 01:39:33,133
A lot of other things

2073
01:39:33,217 --> 01:39:34,843
that should have taken
priority in my life,

2074
01:39:34,927 --> 01:39:37,930
especially my kids,
fell by the wayside.

2075
01:39:38,013 --> 01:39:40,516
I had issues
with intimacy already,

2076
01:39:40,599 --> 01:39:44,144
and then I'm in
this crazy scenario.

2077
01:39:44,228 --> 01:39:45,521
I didn't like myself.

2078
01:39:45,604 --> 01:39:48,023
I didn't like
the choices I was making.

2079
01:39:48,107 --> 01:39:51,360
And that started to spiral
worse and worse.

2080
01:39:51,443 --> 01:39:52,653
I'm gonna distract over here.

2081
01:39:52,736 --> 01:39:54,029
I'm gonna anesthetize
with this.

2082
01:39:54,113 --> 01:39:56,573
And it was just like,
"What's wrong with you?

2083
01:39:56,657 --> 01:39:58,534
Why can't you just be content?"

2084
01:39:58,617 --> 01:40:01,954
[somber music]

2085
01:40:02,037 --> 01:40:03,956
People aren't even happy
at home to see me.

2086
01:40:04,039 --> 01:40:06,542
Everyone's happy
to see me out on the road.

2087
01:40:06,625 --> 01:40:09,378
They welcome me.

2088
01:40:09,461 --> 01:40:10,421
"New York Times"
wants to talk to me.

2089
01:40:10,504 --> 01:40:11,422
I gotta go do that.

2090
01:40:11,505 --> 01:40:13,924
I gotta fly here
for this charity event,

2091
01:40:14,007 --> 01:40:15,259
'cause they invited me.

2092
01:40:15,342 --> 01:40:16,719
There's a movie premiere.
They want me.

2093
01:40:16,802 --> 01:40:18,095
I gotta be on the red carpet.

2094
01:40:18,178 --> 01:40:19,596
Well, of course I gotta go to--

2095
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:23,767
I gotta go to Monaco
for the "Sports Awards"...

2096
01:40:23,851 --> 01:40:25,936
that I'm not even
nominated for.

2097
01:40:26,019 --> 01:40:31,066
And then I'd be there
and at some point back alone

2098
01:40:31,150 --> 01:40:34,695
and just thinking,
"Why aren't you just home?"

2099
01:40:34,778 --> 01:40:39,032
♪ ♪

2100
01:40:39,116 --> 01:40:40,743
[groans softly]

2101
01:40:40,826 --> 01:40:43,787
- The whole concept of, like,
yeah, people asking me, like,

2102
01:40:43,871 --> 01:40:46,248
"What's it like
to have your dad be Tony Hawk?"

2103
01:40:46,331 --> 01:40:47,541
It's like,
it's the only thing I know,

2104
01:40:47,624 --> 01:40:49,918
so I don't know
what it's not like.

2105
01:40:51,754 --> 01:40:54,798
- Riley was with me through
all of my relationships

2106
01:40:54,882 --> 01:40:58,510
and challenges and turmoil.

2107
01:40:58,594 --> 01:41:00,763
Riley had a rough upbringing

2108
01:41:00,846 --> 01:41:04,433
with a lot
of different co-parents

2109
01:41:04,516 --> 01:41:06,477
and half siblings.

2110
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,979
And he just
went along with it,

2111
01:41:09,062 --> 01:41:11,440
'cause he didn't--obviously,
he didn't have a choice.

2112
01:41:11,523 --> 01:41:13,275
- It definitely was tricky
being the oldest

2113
01:41:13,358 --> 01:41:15,486
of two families

2114
01:41:15,569 --> 01:41:17,154
and two separate sets
of siblings,

2115
01:41:17,237 --> 01:41:18,906
because you're just kind of,
like--

2116
01:41:18,989 --> 01:41:21,867
I was the only one doing this.

2117
01:41:23,368 --> 01:41:25,078
- We were on tour once,

2118
01:41:25,162 --> 01:41:27,790
and I should have really
just enjoyed that aspect.

2119
01:41:27,873 --> 01:41:29,958
Like,
"Oh, Riley's here on tour."

2120
01:41:30,042 --> 01:41:31,293
And I remember him
looking at me like,

2121
01:41:31,376 --> 01:41:34,713
"Are you gonna go out
again tonight?"

2122
01:41:34,797 --> 01:41:36,381
And I was thinking, like,
"Aw, well,

2123
01:41:36,465 --> 01:41:38,050
you're just gonna fall asleep.
It's okay."

2124
01:41:38,133 --> 01:41:39,468
Like, "Someone will be
in the room with you.

2125
01:41:39,551 --> 01:41:40,844
It'll be all right."

2126
01:41:40,928 --> 01:41:43,180
And, like, I think back
to those times, like,

2127
01:41:43,263 --> 01:41:45,057
"You should have
taken that as a sign."

2128
01:41:47,476 --> 01:41:50,354
My other kids,
they only saw one relationship

2129
01:41:50,437 --> 01:41:51,688
or two relationships.

2130
01:41:51,772 --> 01:41:53,982
And they're like,
"Oh, this is your pattern.

2131
01:41:54,066 --> 01:41:55,901
This is what you do."

2132
01:41:55,984 --> 01:41:57,861
I didn't know how to live
in my own skin.

2133
01:41:57,945 --> 01:42:01,698
I didn't know how to--
how to like myself.

2134
01:42:01,782 --> 01:42:04,743
And I didn't know how to...

2135
01:42:04,827 --> 01:42:08,539
be a husband or a father

2136
01:42:08,622 --> 01:42:10,874
that I would be proud of.

2137
01:42:10,958 --> 01:42:16,588
♪ ♪

2138
01:42:16,672 --> 01:42:18,006
Chef has arrived.

2139
01:42:22,636 --> 01:42:26,515
So scary that you cut
towards your fingers.

2140
01:42:26,598 --> 01:42:28,016
- No.

2141
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:31,645
- It's scary to me
as the adult figure

2142
01:42:31,728 --> 01:42:32,896
and the one that's supposed
to be responsible

2143
01:42:32,980 --> 01:42:34,022
for your safety.

2144
01:42:34,106 --> 01:42:36,191
That frightens me.
- This frightens you?

2145
01:42:36,275 --> 01:42:37,526
- Yes.

2146
01:42:41,780 --> 01:42:43,365
- No, but come down here.

2147
01:42:43,448 --> 01:42:45,659
- Are you guys pretending
like you guys cook?

2148
01:42:45,742 --> 01:42:48,704
- Oh!
- He took the trash out, too.

2149
01:42:48,787 --> 01:42:51,206
And he went
to the grocery store.

2150
01:42:51,290 --> 01:42:52,875
- I am a hunter and gatherer.

2151
01:42:52,958 --> 01:42:55,794
I hunt and gather income
by riding a skateboard.

2152
01:42:55,878 --> 01:42:57,754
[laughs]

2153
01:42:57,838 --> 01:42:58,881
- When I met Tony,

2154
01:42:58,964 --> 01:43:00,924
there was just something
very comfortable

2155
01:43:01,008 --> 01:43:02,467
about being around him.

2156
01:43:02,551 --> 01:43:04,177
Like, kind of like
when you meet somebody

2157
01:43:04,261 --> 01:43:08,140
that you feel like you've known
kind of feeling.

2158
01:43:08,223 --> 01:43:10,475
You're just the worst.
He's the worst.

2159
01:43:10,559 --> 01:43:12,144
- Oh, my God, he just--
- He's the worst.

2160
01:43:12,227 --> 01:43:14,187
- [laughing]
- He's the worst.

2161
01:43:14,271 --> 01:43:16,732
- When Cathy and I found

2162
01:43:16,815 --> 01:43:19,318
that there could be
this chance of romance,

2163
01:43:19,401 --> 01:43:24,156
I knew deep down
I had not figured out my life.

2164
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:26,241
Like, I had not figured out
how to function

2165
01:43:26,325 --> 01:43:28,118
in a committed relationship,

2166
01:43:28,201 --> 01:43:30,454
and I carried all this baggage.

2167
01:43:30,537 --> 01:43:34,124
And I didn't think
she knew the depths of it.

2168
01:43:34,207 --> 01:43:36,877
- He didn't know how to...

2169
01:43:38,378 --> 01:43:41,214
Express his real,
true feelings.

2170
01:43:42,549 --> 01:43:46,553
There's just some holes there
that he filled

2171
01:43:46,637 --> 01:43:48,138
with skateboarding.

2172
01:43:48,221 --> 01:43:50,515
And skateboarding fed so much

2173
01:43:50,599 --> 01:43:53,060
of what he was lacking

2174
01:43:53,143 --> 01:43:54,811
that I don't know
if he developed

2175
01:43:54,895 --> 01:43:57,147
how to get those things
other ways.

2176
01:43:57,230 --> 01:44:00,734
Even the relationship with his
parents was around skating.

2177
01:44:00,817 --> 01:44:04,613
Everything was around skating.

2178
01:44:04,696 --> 01:44:06,490
- I had to go make a change.
Like, I just knew it.

2179
01:44:06,573 --> 01:44:08,659
I knew I wasn't capable
of doing it myself.

2180
01:44:08,742 --> 01:44:10,702
♪ ♪

2181
01:44:10,786 --> 01:44:12,245
Checked into a place.

2182
01:44:12,329 --> 01:44:14,915
And...it was hard.

2183
01:44:14,998 --> 01:44:16,250
It was super hard.

2184
01:44:18,168 --> 01:44:19,962
And where do you even start?

2185
01:44:22,089 --> 01:44:23,840
There's a skate park downtown.

2186
01:44:23,924 --> 01:44:28,053
I was at that skate park
at 7:00 a.m. every single day.

2187
01:44:28,929 --> 01:44:31,181
I made a special request
to be able to do that.

2188
01:44:32,599 --> 01:44:35,268
There was ice on the ground.

2189
01:44:35,352 --> 01:44:38,146
There was snow
covering the coping sometimes.

2190
01:44:38,230 --> 01:44:40,816
I would go out there
in snow gloves

2191
01:44:40,899 --> 01:44:43,694
and session for at least
an hour by myself.

2192
01:44:43,777 --> 01:44:46,697
[soft music]

2193
01:44:46,780 --> 01:44:47,823
♪ ♪

2194
01:44:47,906 --> 01:44:50,659
What I realized
is that I've had

2195
01:44:50,742 --> 01:44:55,080
the most intense discipline
in my life with skating.

2196
01:44:55,163 --> 01:44:59,418
If I can--if I can focus
that discipline on my life...

2197
01:45:01,128 --> 01:45:03,714
I must have it in there.
I must be able to do that.

2198
01:45:03,797 --> 01:45:06,383
- He said,
"I know I can do this,

2199
01:45:06,466 --> 01:45:08,427
"because these are
the qualities I have.

2200
01:45:08,510 --> 01:45:12,097
"I am determined,
I'm disciplined,

2201
01:45:12,180 --> 01:45:14,891
and I know I can make
all these changes in myself."

2202
01:45:14,975 --> 01:45:18,061
Because he has the example
of doing it in skating.

2203
01:45:18,145 --> 01:45:20,188
- I knew that

2204
01:45:20,272 --> 01:45:24,234
I was going to do
everything necessary

2205
01:45:24,317 --> 01:45:27,529
and stick with it
and lean into it

2206
01:45:27,612 --> 01:45:30,532
and wrote this ugly list
of things I wasn't proud of,

2207
01:45:30,615 --> 01:45:32,701
and...

2208
01:45:32,784 --> 01:45:34,161
that probably was the moment

2209
01:45:34,244 --> 01:45:38,707
where I was most in shock
and just was like,

2210
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:40,709
"This is the end of that."

2211
01:45:42,252 --> 01:45:45,756
I released this baggage,

2212
01:45:45,839 --> 01:45:49,760
and I felt like
I finally have a foundation

2213
01:45:49,843 --> 01:45:54,431
to fill up
with a positive way of living.

2214
01:45:54,514 --> 01:45:58,727
Me coming to terms with it was
balling up this list

2215
01:45:58,810 --> 01:46:00,020
and throwing it in the fire.

2216
01:46:03,899 --> 01:46:06,234
- Do you need any help?
- [chuckles] Yes.

2217
01:46:07,736 --> 01:46:09,071
Can you help me get youth?

2218
01:46:09,154 --> 01:46:10,739
- No.
- Why not?

2219
01:46:10,822 --> 01:46:12,240
You have so much of it.

2220
01:46:12,324 --> 01:46:14,910
- He's probably
at the point in his life

2221
01:46:14,993 --> 01:46:18,121
where he's probably
happiest with himself

2222
01:46:18,205 --> 01:46:19,581
and happiest
in his relationship.

2223
01:46:19,664 --> 01:46:21,625
And I think, ultimately,
that has the biggest effect

2224
01:46:21,708 --> 01:46:23,460
on your relationship
to your children.

2225
01:46:23,543 --> 01:46:27,005
And so I'm happy that he was
able to get to that point.

2226
01:46:27,089 --> 01:46:30,008
And now he has Kady
that he can,

2227
01:46:30,092 --> 01:46:32,135
you know, be that parent to.

2228
01:46:32,219 --> 01:46:35,013
And I think he's the best form
of himself now.

2229
01:46:36,181 --> 01:46:37,349
- Can you stand up?

2230
01:46:39,059 --> 01:46:40,143
- Oh, my God.

2231
01:46:41,728 --> 01:46:43,563
- Oh, you did it!

2232
01:46:43,647 --> 01:46:44,940
That's the first time
I've seen you do it.

2233
01:46:49,319 --> 01:46:51,279
- Rodney Mullen
goes to his warehouse

2234
01:46:51,363 --> 01:46:52,864
and skates every night.

2235
01:46:52,948 --> 01:46:55,700
Lance is still waking up
every day and skating.

2236
01:46:55,784 --> 01:46:58,120
Steve Caballero's
still considering himself

2237
01:46:58,203 --> 01:46:59,496
a pro skater.

2238
01:46:59,579 --> 01:47:01,456
Mike McGill still skates,
and obviously,

2239
01:47:01,540 --> 01:47:05,210
Tony is skating all the time
at the highest level.

2240
01:47:05,293 --> 01:47:07,504
- There's a difference,
though, in some of those guys.

2241
01:47:07,587 --> 01:47:08,922
Rodney Mullen...

2242
01:47:10,590 --> 01:47:12,342
Skateboarding for him, I think,

2243
01:47:12,425 --> 01:47:15,804
is really an art form
that he just has to practice

2244
01:47:15,887 --> 01:47:18,723
like a Buddhist monk meditates.

2245
01:47:18,807 --> 01:47:20,225
Caballero has his artwork.

2246
01:47:20,308 --> 01:47:22,561
Mike McGill--
I think that Mike has a real

2247
01:47:22,644 --> 01:47:24,396
healthy relationship
with his skateboarding.

2248
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:26,898
I think he realizes
his better days are behind him.

2249
01:47:26,982 --> 01:47:28,066
He's fine with that.

2250
01:47:28,150 --> 01:47:31,695
I think Lance still feels

2251
01:47:31,778 --> 01:47:33,947
he's got to prove himself
in backyard pools.

2252
01:47:34,030 --> 01:47:37,492
So Lance and Tony--
[clears throat]

2253
01:47:37,576 --> 01:47:38,910
They're in a different place.

2254
01:47:40,203 --> 01:47:42,873
- We're gonna go over
to Bob Burnquist's house,

2255
01:47:42,956 --> 01:47:44,708
compound, ramp.

2256
01:47:44,791 --> 01:47:46,710
I'd like to do a 360
over the gap.

2257
01:47:46,793 --> 01:47:48,253
And then if I make that,

2258
01:47:48,336 --> 01:47:49,754
I gotta do something
on the quarter pipe.

2259
01:47:49,838 --> 01:47:51,965
But I'll cross that bridge
when I get to it.

2260
01:47:53,466 --> 01:47:55,218
Here we are at Bob's.

2261
01:47:55,302 --> 01:47:56,720
- This looks a little crazy.
- There it is.

2262
01:47:56,803 --> 01:47:57,762
- It's a little crazy-looking.

2263
01:47:57,846 --> 01:48:00,849
[wind whooshing]

2264
01:48:25,749 --> 01:48:26,917
- Whoo!

2265
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:28,418
[energetic rock music]

2266
01:48:28,501 --> 01:48:30,253
- I've seen him
get way more hurt

2267
01:48:30,337 --> 01:48:32,380
and try way more
gnarly things now

2268
01:48:32,464 --> 01:48:34,966
than he ever did
back when he was a kid.

2269
01:48:35,050 --> 01:48:37,302
[The Replacements' "Take Me
Down to the Hospital"]

2270
01:48:37,385 --> 01:48:38,720
- Yeah!

2271
01:48:38,803 --> 01:48:40,347
- Tony!

2272
01:48:40,430 --> 01:48:43,433
[cheers and applause]

2273
01:48:43,516 --> 01:48:45,936
♪ ♪

2274
01:48:46,019 --> 01:48:48,271
- ♪ Well, I can't breathe ♪

2275
01:48:48,355 --> 01:48:50,607
♪ I can't swallow ♪

2276
01:48:50,690 --> 01:48:52,567
♪ Here today ♪

2277
01:48:52,651 --> 01:48:55,612
♪ Going back tomorrow ♪

2278
01:48:55,695 --> 01:48:57,864
- I was there when he tried
the loop for the first time.

2279
01:48:57,948 --> 01:49:03,912
♪ ♪

2280
01:49:04,996 --> 01:49:07,290
And I actually,
at one point, said,

2281
01:49:07,374 --> 01:49:10,168
"Can you just, like,
make him stop, please?

2282
01:49:10,252 --> 01:49:12,337
Can we stop this?"
But he didn't.

2283
01:49:12,420 --> 01:49:13,463
♪ ♪

2284
01:49:13,546 --> 01:49:15,507
- ♪ Red light running ♪

2285
01:49:15,590 --> 01:49:17,717
♪ Drag me in ♪

2286
01:49:17,801 --> 01:49:19,970
♪ Move the seat back ♪

2287
01:49:20,053 --> 01:49:22,847
♪ It's Saturday night ♪

2288
01:49:22,931 --> 01:49:24,474
♪ Take me down ♪

2289
01:49:24,557 --> 01:49:26,935
♪ To the hospital ♪

2290
01:49:27,018 --> 01:49:28,311
♪ Take me down ♪

2291
01:49:28,395 --> 01:49:29,479
- Yeah!

2292
01:49:29,562 --> 01:49:31,022
- ♪ To the hospital ♪

2293
01:49:31,106 --> 01:49:33,650
- One of the reasons
he's accomplished so much

2294
01:49:33,733 --> 01:49:36,486
is, he doesn't think
about the bad things.

2295
01:49:36,569 --> 01:49:38,154
He doesn't let that get to him.

2296
01:49:38,238 --> 01:49:40,323
♪ ♪

2297
01:49:40,407 --> 01:49:42,033
- ♪ Prop me up ♪

2298
01:49:42,117 --> 01:49:44,494
- Yeah!
- Yeah!

2299
01:49:44,577 --> 01:49:46,121
[person whistles]

2300
01:49:46,204 --> 01:49:48,915
- Tony is competing
against Tony.

2301
01:49:48,999 --> 01:49:51,334
He's always been
competing against Tony.

2302
01:49:51,418 --> 01:49:54,504
- Three, two, one, go!

2303
01:49:54,587 --> 01:49:56,339
- ♪ Get out of them slacks ♪

2304
01:49:56,423 --> 01:49:57,841
♪ Out of them slacks ♪

2305
01:49:57,924 --> 01:50:01,386
- Tony does not tire
of getting hurt,

2306
01:50:01,469 --> 01:50:03,680
he does not tire of repetition,

2307
01:50:03,763 --> 01:50:06,016
and he does not tire
of just doing the same thing

2308
01:50:06,099 --> 01:50:08,018
and attempting it
over and over.

2309
01:50:08,101 --> 01:50:15,025
♪ ♪

2310
01:50:16,192 --> 01:50:18,903
- ♪ Oh ♪

2311
01:50:18,987 --> 01:50:20,822
- You know, one thing for sure
about Tony

2312
01:50:20,905 --> 01:50:23,074
is that he can take a slam.

2313
01:50:23,158 --> 01:50:25,660
It's rare to find people who

2314
01:50:25,744 --> 01:50:28,872
like to get back up
and try it again.

2315
01:50:28,955 --> 01:50:30,665
♪ ♪

2316
01:50:30,749 --> 01:50:32,542
- ♪ I don't wanna ♪

2317
01:50:32,625 --> 01:50:34,711
♪ Ride no car ♪

2318
01:50:34,794 --> 01:50:36,421
[cheers and applause]

2319
01:50:36,504 --> 01:50:39,382
- The reason he's been hurt
more than most people

2320
01:50:39,466 --> 01:50:41,092
is because he's attempting

2321
01:50:41,176 --> 01:50:43,887
so many more things
that they would never attempt.

2322
01:50:43,970 --> 01:50:46,389
- ♪ Take me to ♪
- ♪ Hospital ♪

2323
01:50:46,473 --> 01:50:48,391
- ♪ Take me down ♪
- ♪ Hospital ♪

2324
01:50:48,475 --> 01:50:50,894
- Holy shit.

2325
01:50:50,977 --> 01:50:52,896
- He's going to take some hits.

2326
01:50:52,979 --> 01:50:54,189
♪ ♪

2327
01:50:54,272 --> 01:50:56,399
- ♪ Hospital ♪

2328
01:50:56,483 --> 01:50:57,859
♪ Hospital ♪

2329
01:50:57,942 --> 01:50:59,027
[body thuds]

2330
01:50:59,110 --> 01:51:01,237
- One time,
I saw Tony fall at Del Mar,

2331
01:51:01,321 --> 01:51:05,200
and I guess his knee was
locking up and getting stuck.

2332
01:51:05,283 --> 01:51:06,201
I'm looking at it,

2333
01:51:06,284 --> 01:51:07,243
and he's like,
"Yeah, my knee's stuck."

2334
01:51:07,327 --> 01:51:09,079
And he's like,
"Pull it! Pull it! Pull it!"

2335
01:51:09,162 --> 01:51:11,039
I think it was his dad
or something like that

2336
01:51:11,122 --> 01:51:12,332
pulling on it.

2337
01:51:12,415 --> 01:51:15,085
And boom! And then he's like,
"Oh, all right."

2338
01:51:15,168 --> 01:51:18,088
[laughing] He gets back up
and goes to skate again.

2339
01:51:18,171 --> 01:51:21,424
I'm like, "If my knee
got stuck, I'd be like,

2340
01:51:21,508 --> 01:51:23,093
'I need to go to a doctor.'"

2341
01:51:23,176 --> 01:51:25,595
And he's like, "No, I'm good."

2342
01:51:25,678 --> 01:51:26,763
- Broke my elbow.

2343
01:51:26,846 --> 01:51:29,891
Knocked my teeth out
at least five times.

2344
01:51:29,974 --> 01:51:32,769
Didn't dislocate my shoulder,
but it went out and in.

2345
01:51:32,852 --> 01:51:36,064
Rolled my ankles so far
that they should have broken,

2346
01:51:36,147 --> 01:51:39,234
and maybe I would have
benefited more if they had,

2347
01:51:39,317 --> 01:51:41,111
'cause now they're just
kind of loose.

2348
01:51:41,194 --> 01:51:43,905
I've had dozens of concussions

2349
01:51:43,988 --> 01:51:46,950
but only a few
that were really bad,

2350
01:51:47,033 --> 01:51:49,244
where I woke up somewhere else.

2351
01:51:49,327 --> 01:51:51,579
- His body's pretty messed up.

2352
01:51:51,663 --> 01:51:53,623
You know, if you watch him
turn and stuff like that,

2353
01:51:53,706 --> 01:51:55,500
he's got a lot of stiffness.

2354
01:51:55,583 --> 01:51:57,502
- I know what he has,
which a lot of us get,

2355
01:51:57,585 --> 01:52:00,296
is, we get whiplash
from taking slams.

2356
01:52:00,380 --> 01:52:02,173
And he has it really bad.

2357
01:52:02,257 --> 01:52:03,675
- I'm that guy
that people ask, like,

2358
01:52:03,758 --> 01:52:04,968
"Something wrong
with your neck?"

2359
01:52:05,051 --> 01:52:08,054
I'm like, "Yes.
40 years of whiplash."

2360
01:52:10,807 --> 01:52:12,684
- Whoa!
- Shit!

2361
01:52:14,102 --> 01:52:16,062
That's not good.

2362
01:52:16,146 --> 01:52:17,564
- Medic!
- Hey, medic! Quick!

2363
01:52:17,647 --> 01:52:19,941
- Medic! Medic!

2364
01:52:20,024 --> 01:52:21,985
- Can you hear me, Tony?

2365
01:52:22,068 --> 01:52:23,903
Can you hear me?

2366
01:52:25,029 --> 01:52:26,156
You all right?

2367
01:52:26,239 --> 01:52:27,866
- It hurts, man.
- I know, man.

2368
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:30,326
You okay?
- Yeah.

2369
01:52:30,410 --> 01:52:31,995
- All right. I don't want--
- Cut the pads off.

2370
01:52:32,078 --> 01:52:33,455
- Minimal movement, okay?
- What is this?

2371
01:52:33,538 --> 01:52:35,874
- Minimal movement.
- Okay.

2372
01:52:35,957 --> 01:52:38,084
- Hold that on your head
right there.

2373
01:52:38,168 --> 01:52:40,670
- Fractured my skull,
broke my thumb,

2374
01:52:40,753 --> 01:52:42,380
broke my pelvis.

2375
01:52:42,464 --> 01:52:44,841
I sat in bed
for about six weeks.

2376
01:52:44,924 --> 01:52:46,843
And I thought,
"Maybe this is it."

2377
01:52:46,926 --> 01:52:49,429
Everyone kept asking me,
"How long can you skate?"

2378
01:52:49,512 --> 01:52:51,848
Maybe this is the answer.
This is how long I can skate.

2379
01:52:51,931 --> 01:52:54,142
I can skate till I'm 35,
when I break my pelvis.

2380
01:52:54,225 --> 01:52:57,103
- When I got knocked out in
Australia about five years ago

2381
01:52:57,187 --> 01:52:59,105
or something,
I was asking everybody, like,

2382
01:52:59,189 --> 01:53:01,149
"How long does this
fuzziness last, you know?"

2383
01:53:01,232 --> 01:53:03,318
I'm like, "Tony, you've been
knocked out a bunch of times.

2384
01:53:03,401 --> 01:53:04,486
How long does it"--

2385
01:53:04,569 --> 01:53:05,653
He's like,
"I don't know, Mike."

2386
01:53:05,737 --> 01:53:07,655
I'm like, "How many times
you been knocked out?"

2387
01:53:07,739 --> 01:53:09,115
You know,
he couldn't even recall

2388
01:53:09,199 --> 01:53:10,408
how many times
he's been knocked out.

2389
01:53:11,784 --> 01:53:14,746
- Can you imagine
watching your dad

2390
01:53:14,829 --> 01:53:17,790
tumble down a ramp at 56?

2391
01:53:17,874 --> 01:53:19,209
- [laughs]
No.

2392
01:53:19,292 --> 01:53:20,919
- Like, we're grandparents.

2393
01:53:21,002 --> 01:53:24,547
We're grandparents
falling out of the sky.

2394
01:53:24,631 --> 01:53:26,049
- Why still push yourself

2395
01:53:26,132 --> 01:53:28,510
when there's no reward
of board sales

2396
01:53:28,593 --> 01:53:32,222
or contest winnings
or anything like that?

2397
01:53:32,305 --> 01:53:33,431
- That is the question.

2398
01:53:33,515 --> 01:53:35,058
That is the question,
why we do that.

2399
01:53:35,141 --> 01:53:37,936
I don't know.
It's just in us.

2400
01:53:38,019 --> 01:53:39,395
- Why do you think
Tony does it?

2401
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,189
Why do you think
he pushes himself so hard?

2402
01:53:42,607 --> 01:53:44,859
- I think it's to impress
all of us, you know?

2403
01:53:44,943 --> 01:53:47,904
I think it's--I honestly do,

2404
01:53:47,987 --> 01:53:49,989
because, you know,
most of the world

2405
01:53:50,073 --> 01:53:53,701
that's gonna see this film
doesn't know a Madonna

2406
01:53:53,785 --> 01:53:56,204
from a McTwist
from a Caballerial.

2407
01:53:56,287 --> 01:53:57,914
But his peers do.

2408
01:53:57,997 --> 01:53:59,874
[chuckling]
And we are blown away

2409
01:53:59,958 --> 01:54:02,168
every time
we see something like this.

2410
01:54:02,252 --> 01:54:05,922
And it inspires us to go on
and do something different,

2411
01:54:06,005 --> 01:54:08,675
because that's what
skateboarding is all about.

2412
01:54:08,758 --> 01:54:11,636
[X's "Blue Spark"]

2413
01:54:11,719 --> 01:54:14,264
♪ ♪

2414
01:54:14,347 --> 01:54:18,142
- We had the 30-year reunion
of the "Animal Chin" video.

2415
01:54:18,226 --> 01:54:21,980
To commemorate that,
Tony had a replica

2416
01:54:22,063 --> 01:54:25,108
of the infamous Chin ramp
built.

2417
01:54:25,191 --> 01:54:27,902
Caballero, McGill,
Lance, Tony, myself,

2418
01:54:27,986 --> 01:54:29,529
Tommy Guerrero, Rodney Mullen,

2419
01:54:29,612 --> 01:54:31,155
and a whole bunch
of other people

2420
01:54:31,239 --> 01:54:32,782
were there to celebrate.

2421
01:54:32,865 --> 01:54:35,451
So we got to watch them
skate it again.

2422
01:54:35,535 --> 01:54:38,413
And they reproduced
all the famous tricks

2423
01:54:38,496 --> 01:54:40,039
that they did at the time.

2424
01:54:40,123 --> 01:54:42,292
♪ ♪

2425
01:54:42,375 --> 01:54:44,502
- ♪ Exchange ♪

2426
01:54:44,586 --> 01:54:47,130
- 30 years later, these guys
are doing their famous,

2427
01:54:47,213 --> 01:54:48,798
you know, four-invert shot.

2428
01:54:48,881 --> 01:54:50,174
- Can we just try?
- Eee!

2429
01:54:50,258 --> 01:54:51,634
♪ ♪

2430
01:54:51,718 --> 01:54:52,844
- This is it!

2431
01:54:52,927 --> 01:54:56,681
- One. Two. Three.

2432
01:54:56,764 --> 01:55:01,269
- ♪ Downtown ♪

2433
01:55:01,352 --> 01:55:05,440
♪ Blue spark ♪

2434
01:55:05,523 --> 01:55:07,150
- Yoo-hoo!

2435
01:55:07,233 --> 01:55:11,446
- Lock it up.
- Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho!

2436
01:55:11,529 --> 01:55:14,532
- That's amazing.
That's totally amazing.

2437
01:55:14,616 --> 01:55:20,163
- ♪ Just to give hi-i-i-i-im ♪

2438
01:55:20,246 --> 01:55:22,832
♪ Blue shock ♪

2439
01:55:22,915 --> 01:55:25,168
- Yeah, Steve!
Nice!

2440
01:55:25,251 --> 01:55:28,338
- Whenever Caballero or McGill
did something

2441
01:55:28,421 --> 01:55:29,964
that was a little bit
too edgy,

2442
01:55:30,048 --> 01:55:31,716
you could see them
stop midair and,

2443
01:55:31,799 --> 01:55:33,843
"That's it. Stop."

2444
01:55:33,926 --> 01:55:35,720
Every time they'd do something

2445
01:55:35,803 --> 01:55:38,848
and it was a touch off
of what they were out,

2446
01:55:38,931 --> 01:55:41,351
they'd throw the board
and slide--knee slide.

2447
01:55:41,434 --> 01:55:42,685
You could tell there was
no messing around.

2448
01:55:42,769 --> 01:55:43,978
These guys aren't getting hurt.

2449
01:55:44,062 --> 01:55:45,647
- ♪ Blue spark ♪

2450
01:55:45,730 --> 01:55:47,148
- As the temperature
started increasing

2451
01:55:47,231 --> 01:55:48,441
and these guys
started pushing each other,

2452
01:55:48,524 --> 01:55:52,695
Tony, like always, he started
going harder and harder.

2453
01:56:00,036 --> 01:56:01,496
- Yeah!
- Oh!

2454
01:56:01,579 --> 01:56:02,705
- Oh!

2455
01:56:09,337 --> 01:56:10,755
- Just chill out.
Just chill.

2456
01:56:10,838 --> 01:56:13,174
Just chill. Just chill.
Just chill out.

2457
01:56:13,257 --> 01:56:14,842
- Tony, just chill.
Tony, just chill.

2458
01:56:14,926 --> 01:56:16,844
Just chill. Lay there.
Stay there.

2459
01:56:16,928 --> 01:56:19,681
- Just kick back.
Kick back. Kick back.

2460
01:56:19,764 --> 01:56:22,934
Here.
- Hey.

2461
01:56:23,017 --> 01:56:24,519
- There you go.

2462
01:56:35,613 --> 01:56:37,073
- What is your name?

2463
01:56:40,827 --> 01:56:43,538
Wait, wait, wait.
What's your name?

2464
01:56:43,621 --> 01:56:44,956
- Tony Hawk.

2465
01:56:49,001 --> 01:56:51,087
- All of us just gasped.
It's like, "Oh, my God."

2466
01:56:51,170 --> 01:56:54,090
He's down there, laying there,
dead still.

2467
01:57:17,822 --> 01:57:20,241
He got himself up off the ramp
after about five minutes,

2468
01:57:20,324 --> 01:57:22,285
and then he went and sat down
at the bottom of the ramp,

2469
01:57:22,368 --> 01:57:24,370
and he just sat there.

2470
01:57:24,454 --> 01:57:26,581
- There's some water
right here.

2471
01:57:26,664 --> 01:57:31,252
- His hair was, like,
Einstein-y, pitch-white skin,

2472
01:57:31,335 --> 01:57:33,004
and he looked 70 years old.

2473
01:57:33,087 --> 01:57:35,173
It was shocking.
It was really scary.

2474
01:57:35,256 --> 01:57:38,760
And I sat there going, "Man,
you can't do this at this age.

2475
01:57:38,843 --> 01:57:43,306
You can't put yourself in that
kind of danger at this age,"

2476
01:57:43,389 --> 01:57:45,349
especially with the career
he's had.

2477
01:57:45,433 --> 01:57:47,810
And it really,
really troubled me.

2478
01:57:47,894 --> 01:57:49,645
And I went and had
a really long conversation

2479
01:57:49,729 --> 01:57:50,938
with Sean Mortimer afterwards,

2480
01:57:51,022 --> 01:57:52,940
saying, "Look, somebody's
gotta talk to Tony.

2481
01:57:53,024 --> 01:57:54,358
He can't let this happen."

2482
01:57:54,442 --> 01:57:55,735
I talked to Steve Hawk.

2483
01:57:55,818 --> 01:57:57,320
I called Steve Hawk
on the phone.

2484
01:57:57,403 --> 01:57:59,655
And I'm going,
"Steve, Tony's gotta be told

2485
01:57:59,739 --> 01:58:01,449
he can't do this."

2486
01:58:01,532 --> 01:58:02,784
But I couldn't get any takers.

2487
01:58:02,867 --> 01:58:04,619
I couldn't get anybody
to, like--

2488
01:58:04,702 --> 01:58:06,078
guys, you've got to--

2489
01:58:06,162 --> 01:58:07,622
there's got to be
an intervention here.

2490
01:58:07,705 --> 01:58:09,874
I mean, come on!

2491
01:58:09,957 --> 01:58:12,335
That's not a bad concussion.

2492
01:58:12,418 --> 01:58:15,421
That's a disaster, you know?

2493
01:58:23,596 --> 01:58:26,015
- I don't know
what I think about it.

2494
01:58:26,098 --> 01:58:28,559
I think it's no one's place
to say that to him.

2495
01:58:30,603 --> 01:58:32,605
- Okay.
So what do you mean?

2496
01:58:34,232 --> 01:58:35,441
- I don't know.

2497
01:58:37,819 --> 01:58:38,986
He doesn't unders--

2498
01:58:40,279 --> 01:58:42,156
He doesn't even understand

2499
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,283
that we're gonna probably
die skateboarding

2500
01:58:44,367 --> 01:58:45,493
and kill ourselves.

2501
01:58:45,576 --> 01:58:48,204
It's something
you can't change.

2502
01:58:50,748 --> 01:58:51,874
I can't sleep.

2503
01:58:53,167 --> 01:58:56,212
I can't sleep on my shoulders.
It's terrible.

2504
01:58:56,295 --> 01:58:57,505
It's horrible.

2505
01:58:57,588 --> 01:59:00,675
You're actually destroying
yourself on what you love.

2506
01:59:00,758 --> 01:59:04,554
But it's not--it's too late,
first of all,

2507
01:59:04,637 --> 01:59:06,514
to be concerned about, like,

2508
01:59:06,597 --> 01:59:07,974
"Oh, it's time for us
to slow down."

2509
01:59:08,057 --> 01:59:09,350
Like, I don't know.
I don't know to--

2510
01:59:09,433 --> 01:59:11,727
I don't know
how to react to that.

2511
01:59:11,811 --> 01:59:13,896
He's right, but I don't know
how to react to it.

2512
01:59:17,441 --> 01:59:19,527
- I worry a lot that he's--

2513
01:59:19,610 --> 01:59:21,445
that he will really
hurt himself.

2514
01:59:21,529 --> 01:59:22,572
Some of the stuff he's done,

2515
01:59:22,655 --> 01:59:25,032
if something went wrong,
he could have died for sure.

2516
01:59:25,116 --> 01:59:27,368
And that scares
the fuck out of me.

2517
01:59:27,451 --> 01:59:31,205
- The abuse their bodies
are taking is pretty absurd.

2518
01:59:31,289 --> 01:59:32,832
Like, Tony is just--

2519
01:59:32,915 --> 01:59:35,918
Tony and Lance might be
the most battered dudes,

2520
01:59:36,002 --> 01:59:37,086
like, of all of them.

2521
01:59:37,169 --> 01:59:39,046
Tony especially, man, he's--

2522
01:59:39,130 --> 01:59:40,256
you've seen his fingers.

2523
01:59:40,339 --> 01:59:41,924
They're all fucking
out of socket.

2524
01:59:42,008 --> 01:59:43,759
And just--
his shins are all fucked up.

2525
01:59:43,843 --> 01:59:46,137
He tried the full pipe,

2526
01:59:46,220 --> 01:59:50,057
and--but he gets
so fucking slammed.

2527
01:59:50,141 --> 01:59:51,434
But he continues.

2528
01:59:53,436 --> 01:59:54,645
- Yeah, it's foolish.

2529
01:59:54,729 --> 01:59:57,398
It's foolish
what we've done to ourselves.

2530
01:59:57,481 --> 02:00:00,735
Tony--a lot of us.
It's foolish.

2531
02:00:00,818 --> 02:00:02,695
We're gonna live
in absolute pain.

2532
02:00:04,822 --> 02:00:07,658
I've had so many concussions.
I know I have.

2533
02:00:09,452 --> 02:00:11,078
You know.

2534
02:00:11,162 --> 02:00:12,788
I know I have what those
football players have,

2535
02:00:12,872 --> 02:00:14,916
and I'm probably gonna have
a brain tumor like my dad.

2536
02:00:14,999 --> 02:00:16,167
I'm sure of it.

2537
02:00:16,250 --> 02:00:17,418
And it's because...

2538
02:00:19,879 --> 02:00:24,300
We were stupid skateboarding
and we got injured.

2539
02:00:24,383 --> 02:00:26,594
It is what it is.
[laughs]

2540
02:00:26,677 --> 02:00:30,473
He is going to probably get
another gnarly concussion.

2541
02:00:30,556 --> 02:00:32,350
He's probably gonna
break another bone.

2542
02:00:32,433 --> 02:00:33,809
He's probably gonna
get to the point

2543
02:00:33,893 --> 02:00:37,188
where his body
will not let him do it.

2544
02:00:37,271 --> 02:00:39,106
And that's the way
we're gonna go.

2545
02:00:39,190 --> 02:00:41,025
Stupid?
Yes.

2546
02:00:41,108 --> 02:00:45,196
- Maybe it's, like, not smart.
I don't know.

2547
02:00:45,279 --> 02:00:49,158
But we forget about, you know,
the pain and the suffering

2548
02:00:49,241 --> 02:00:52,119
that we go through
to get to that next level.

2549
02:00:52,203 --> 02:00:53,913
And I think it's those people
that are afraid

2550
02:00:53,996 --> 02:00:56,666
to go through that,

2551
02:00:56,749 --> 02:00:58,459
you know,
that pain and suffering,

2552
02:00:58,542 --> 02:01:01,337
that never amount to anything

2553
02:01:01,420 --> 02:01:05,508
than just a normal, safe life,
you know?

2554
02:01:05,591 --> 02:01:10,513
We don't live
in those parameters, you know.

2555
02:01:10,596 --> 02:01:14,016
- There's consequences
to everything we do.

2556
02:01:14,100 --> 02:01:17,979
But when you tap--tiptoe
around the consequences...

2557
02:01:20,398 --> 02:01:21,816
Tony was having consequen--

2558
02:01:21,899 --> 02:01:23,526
he would never have
reached what he did

2559
02:01:23,609 --> 02:01:26,654
if he listened to those
consequences things back then.

2560
02:01:29,615 --> 02:01:32,535
"You're too small.
You can't get to the top.

2561
02:01:32,618 --> 02:01:34,286
"You do it weird.
We don't like you.

2562
02:01:34,370 --> 02:01:36,580
Here's a beer can in the"--
what?

2563
02:01:36,664 --> 02:01:37,832
We all would have stopped

2564
02:01:37,915 --> 02:01:40,042
if we'd listened
to anybody telling us, like,

2565
02:01:40,126 --> 02:01:42,336
"You know, there's gonna be
a cost to this."

2566
02:01:46,465 --> 02:01:49,135
And some are gonna pay more.

2567
02:01:49,218 --> 02:01:53,389
- This is the luxury
of having spent my life

2568
02:01:53,472 --> 02:01:55,516
doing what I love.

2569
02:01:55,599 --> 02:01:57,351
The cost of that...

2570
02:02:00,146 --> 02:02:01,689
It sucks.

2571
02:02:04,275 --> 02:02:06,027
I'm not blind.

2572
02:02:07,445 --> 02:02:10,823
I'm not numb to the pain.

2573
02:02:10,906 --> 02:02:12,533
I would argue
I'm more conscious of it

2574
02:02:12,616 --> 02:02:14,368
than anybody else.

2575
02:02:14,452 --> 02:02:17,830
But I'm also more conscious
of what that gives me.

2576
02:02:17,913 --> 02:02:20,875
[somber music]

2577
02:02:20,958 --> 02:02:24,253
And when I'm done with this...

2578
02:02:24,336 --> 02:02:25,796
♪ ♪

2579
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:30,259
That will be what it is,
and I'll find a way.

2580
02:02:30,342 --> 02:02:33,763
But there's something
inside of me propelling

2581
02:02:33,846 --> 02:02:38,559
that I'm not going to give up
until the wheels fall off.

2582
02:02:38,642 --> 02:02:41,604
That's what I'm made of.

2583
02:02:41,687 --> 02:02:45,399
And I wish--I see all
the arguments against it.

2584
02:02:45,483 --> 02:02:49,320
But I wish I could relate
the intangibles to you.

2585
02:02:51,405 --> 02:02:55,242
My guess is that
we're all built the same.

2586
02:02:55,326 --> 02:02:58,329
None of us are
completely stupid.

2587
02:02:58,412 --> 02:03:00,790
A little deranged,
I think a strong argument.

2588
02:03:00,873 --> 02:03:03,084
I do.

2589
02:03:03,167 --> 02:03:05,836
But ultimately,

2590
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:09,090
we also know what we have.

2591
02:03:09,173 --> 02:03:11,842
And to go and lay down
in that sense of it...

2592
02:03:11,926 --> 02:03:15,262
♪ ♪

2593
02:03:15,346 --> 02:03:19,350
That's like embracing
what we've done with our lives.

2594
02:03:19,433 --> 02:03:20,851
You know?

2595
02:03:20,935 --> 02:03:27,900
♪ ♪

2596
02:04:03,269 --> 02:04:06,480
- I found this thing
that I've loved

2597
02:04:06,564 --> 02:04:08,816
more than anything else
that I've tried

2598
02:04:08,899 --> 02:04:10,359
or done in my life.

2599
02:04:10,442 --> 02:04:12,862
♪ ♪

2600
02:04:12,945 --> 02:04:16,448
I found my purpose
and my salvation.

2601
02:04:18,075 --> 02:04:22,997
And in some ways,
I found my emotional highs.

2602
02:04:25,916 --> 02:04:29,336
I'm still trying
to push my limits.

2603
02:04:32,131 --> 02:04:35,968
I don't know how long
this will last.

2604
02:04:36,051 --> 02:04:38,762
But I'm not gonna quit.

2605
02:04:38,846 --> 02:04:45,811
♪ ♪

2606
02:05:51,710 --> 02:05:54,630
[Oingo Boingo's "Only a Lad"]

2607
02:05:54,713 --> 02:06:01,679
♪ ♪

2608
02:06:20,197 --> 02:06:21,907
- ♪ Johnny was bad ♪

2609
02:06:21,991 --> 02:06:25,452
♪ Even as a child,
everybody could tell ♪

2610
02:06:25,536 --> 02:06:27,830
♪ Everyone said,
"If you don't get straight ♪

2611
02:06:27,913 --> 02:06:29,415
♪ You'll surely go to hell" ♪

2612
02:06:29,498 --> 02:06:31,125
♪ ♪

2613
02:06:31,208 --> 02:06:32,710
♪ But Johnny didn't care ♪

2614
02:06:32,793 --> 02:06:35,337
♪ He was an outlaw by the time
that he was ten years old ♪

2615
02:06:35,421 --> 02:06:37,506
♪ He didn't want to do
what he was told ♪

2616
02:06:37,589 --> 02:06:39,842
♪ Just a prankster ♪

2617
02:06:39,925 --> 02:06:41,844
♪ A juvenile gangster ♪

2618
02:06:41,927 --> 02:06:43,345
♪ His teachers
didn't understand ♪

2619
02:06:43,429 --> 02:06:44,471
♪ They kicked him
out of school ♪

2620
02:06:44,555 --> 02:06:46,348
♪ At a tender early age
just because ♪

2621
02:06:46,432 --> 02:06:48,642
♪ He didn't want
to learn things ♪

2622
02:06:48,726 --> 02:06:49,727
♪ Had other interests ♪

2623
02:06:49,810 --> 02:06:51,186
♪ ♪

2624
02:06:51,270 --> 02:06:53,022
♪ He liked to burn things ♪

2625
02:06:53,105 --> 02:07:00,112
♪ ♪

2626
02:07:03,741 --> 02:07:05,659
♪ The lady down the block,
she had a radio ♪

2627
02:07:05,743 --> 02:07:07,494
♪ That Johnny wanted,
oh, so bad ♪

2628
02:07:07,578 --> 02:07:09,663
♪ So he took it
the first chance he had ♪

2629
02:07:09,747 --> 02:07:11,206
♪ And then he shot her
in the leg ♪

2630
02:07:11,290 --> 02:07:12,541
♪ ♪

2631
02:07:12,624 --> 02:07:13,917
♪ But this is what she said ♪

2632
02:07:14,001 --> 02:07:15,252
- ♪ He's only a lad ♪

2633
02:07:15,336 --> 02:07:16,587
- ♪ You really
can't blame him ♪

2634
02:07:16,670 --> 02:07:17,755
- ♪ Only a lad ♪

2635
02:07:17,838 --> 02:07:19,506
- ♪ Society made him ♪

2636
02:07:19,590 --> 02:07:20,549
- ♪ Only a lad ♪

2637
02:07:20,632 --> 02:07:22,551
- ♪ He's our responsibility ♪

2638
02:07:22,634 --> 02:07:24,595
♪ Oh, oh, whoa, whoa ♪

2639
02:07:24,678 --> 02:07:25,846
- ♪ Only a lad ♪

2640
02:07:25,929 --> 02:07:27,222
- ♪ He really
couldn't help it ♪

2641
02:07:27,306 --> 02:07:28,557
- ♪ Only a lad ♪

2642
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:29,850
- ♪ He didn't want to do it ♪

2643
02:07:29,933 --> 02:07:31,226
- ♪ Only a lad ♪

2644
02:07:31,310 --> 02:07:33,228
- ♪ He's underprivileged
and abused ♪

2645
02:07:33,312 --> 02:07:35,189
♪ Perhaps a little bit
confused ♪

2646
02:07:35,272 --> 02:07:36,899
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪

2647
02:07:36,982 --> 02:07:40,194
♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa ♪

2648
02:07:40,277 --> 02:07:41,904
♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa ♪

2649
02:07:41,987 --> 02:07:43,155
♪ ♪

2650
02:07:43,238 --> 02:07:46,992
♪ Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪

2651
02:07:47,076 --> 02:07:54,041
♪ ♪

2652
02:08:19,024 --> 02:08:20,734
♪ His parents gave up ♪

2653
02:08:20,818 --> 02:08:23,070
♪ They couldn't influence
his attitude ♪

2654
02:08:23,153 --> 02:08:24,571
♪ ♪

2655
02:08:24,655 --> 02:08:25,906
♪ Nobody could help ♪

2656
02:08:25,989 --> 02:08:28,450
♪ The little man
had no gratitude ♪

2657
02:08:28,534 --> 02:08:30,244
♪ ♪

2658
02:08:30,327 --> 02:08:31,745
♪ And when he stole the car ♪

2659
02:08:31,829 --> 02:08:34,248
♪ Nobody dreamed that he would
try to take it so far ♪

2660
02:08:34,331 --> 02:08:36,875
♪ He didn't mean
to hit the poor man ♪

2661
02:08:36,959 --> 02:08:39,420
♪ Who had to go and die ♪

2662
02:08:39,503 --> 02:08:40,838
♪ It made the judge cry ♪

2663
02:08:40,921 --> 02:08:42,297
- ♪ Only a lad ♪

2664
02:08:42,381 --> 02:08:43,799
- ♪ He really
couldn't help it ♪

2665
02:08:49,555 --> 02:08:51,807
[bright tone]