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       -You say you don't read      
       the newspaper articles,      

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          magazine articles         
     that are written about you.    

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 You don't read your own press.    

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    I want to read you something    
   that "Rolling Stone" wrote...    

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      -Watermelon, watermelon,      
   peanut butter, peanut butter.    

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           [ Both laugh ]           

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          Okay, fire away.          

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      [ "If It Makes You Happy"     
              playing ]             

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       [ Cheers and applause ]      

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           -"You can cast           
          a pretty wide net         

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         among Sheryl Crow's        
            acquaintances           

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       without finding anyone       
    ready to describe her beyond    

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      that familiar backhanded      
       compliment of driven."       

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       -Ew. Way to kick it up       
           a notch, Steve.          

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      -You are driven, though.      

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        -I think the negative       
     connotations that have been    

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       associated with driven       
          and perfectionist         

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        usually get put into        
       that category of bitch.      

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         I think that's just        
        by nature of the fact       

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     that you have a woman who's    
      at the head of a company      

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         telling a bunch of         
            men and women           

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     how things have to be done.    

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          I've been long          

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       A long way from here       

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         I put on a poncho,        
       played for mosquitoes       

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           And drank till          
        I was thirsty again        

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          -You have seemed          
      to chart your own course.     

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    -Multi-Grammy-winning artist    

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    who has sold over 50 million    
          albums worldwide.         

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     - Found Geronimo's rifle,     
         Marilyn's shampoo         

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         And Benny Goodman's       
          corset and pen           

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      My definition of driven,      

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       it's been the pressure       
         I've put on myself.        

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    You don't get there by just,    
 you know, having a great time.    

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       You get there by, like,      
            digging deep.           

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       If it makes you happy      

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  It can't be that ba-a-a-ad     

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       If it makes you happy      

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          Then why the hell        
          are you so sad?          

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       If it makes you happy,      
               yeah                

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  It can't be that ba-a-a-ad     

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       If it makes you happy      

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          Then why the hell        
          are you so sad?          

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                Whoo!               

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       [ Cheers and applause ]      

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   [ "I Shall Believe" playing ]    

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     I think from an early age,     
            I knew music            

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       was this joyful thing,       
      this nerve-racking thing,     

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         and then ultimately        
        this rewarding thing.       

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      I've always had real high     
      highs and real low lows,      

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      and that is a part of...      
              who I am.             

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        And I shall believe       

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       Can we sing three-part       
              on that?              

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        And I shall believe       

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        Are you singing it --       
        what are you singing?       

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        - I shall believe         

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       -What are you singing?       

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        - I shall believe         

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        -Sheryl is the voice        
           of a generation          

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    in the area of acknowledging    
        flaw and heartbreak.        

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         - Ah, ah, ah, ah         

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          -We fell in love          
          with her writing          

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        because that was us,        
             all of us.             

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     - Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh     

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            Ah-ah-ah-ah           

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 Music gave me a sense of self.    

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        It gave me permission       
     to talk about my feelings.     

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           It's something           
      that also can be a curse      

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          when it comes to          
         needing to produce,        

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           needing for it           
        not to just be good,        

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         for it to be great.        

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       [ Sings indistinctly ]       

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 -Sheryl has fierce work ethic.    

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   It says a lot about her drive    

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       with which she attacks       

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           something that           
      she's into artistically.      

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       -It's complicated to be      
   a woman in the music industry    

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      because you have to work      
           twice as hard.           

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    You have to be twice as loud    
      to make your voice heard.     

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    - Never gonna give up, no     

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     -Everything was gonna cost     
               Sheryl.              

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    What are you gonna sacrifice    
             as a woman             

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         to be allowed this?        

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 -It's always hard to look back    
    and talk about who you were,    

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          'cause it's only          
       who you think you were.      

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          [ Strums guitar ]         

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      -Settle a bet for me now.     

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           Did you ever do          
      a McDonald's commercial?      

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          -Oh, yeah, yeah.          
         It's a good time...        

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         For the great taste       
           of McDonald's           

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           -That was you.           
          Oh, that was you.         

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         -My hometown is in         
     the boot heel of Missouri.     

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         I was a music geek         
       at a really young age.       

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     I wanted to know who played    
           on everything,           

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        and I wanted to know        
      what all the words were.      

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      I can remember going into     
           the living room          

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     and turning the lights off     
       and playing the piano.       

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 And that was where I felt like    
         I had found myself.        

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              I went to             
     the University of Missouri     

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 just like my older sister did.    

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        I majored in music --       
          piano performance         

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 with a secondary in education.    

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      When I got out of school,     
      I got into a cover band.      

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            I interviewed           
      for several teaching jobs     

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            and wound up            
    in Rockwood School District,    

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 which is public school system.    

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           I was engaged.           

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          I was engaged to          
   the guitar player in the band    

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 who is a born-again Christian,    
          and so he's like,         

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        "If you're not gonna        
         sing for the Lord,         

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       we can't be together."       

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        It did not feel like        

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           I was breaking           
      any of the Commandments,      

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        and I was just like,        
      "I like singing in bands.     

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      I like playing keyboards.     
          I like pop music.         

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        I like getting better       
         at my instrument."         

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          Anyway, that was          
      the beginning of the end      

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        of that relationship,       

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         the first of three         
            engagements.            

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      There are certain things      
          that you look at          

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     in the story of your life.     

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        Like, not everything        
            in your life            

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       is gonna be mapped out       
              for you.              

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      They are gonna be things      
             that happen            

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     that you wouldn't have been    
        able to dream about.        

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      It's a good time for the     
     great taste of McDonald's     

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          I wound up making         
     in that 45 minutes of work     

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       well over what I'd made      
      in two years of teaching.     

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         And when I got that        
      commercial, I felt like,      

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 you know, if I'm ever gonna go    

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      and try to make a living      
            as an artist,           

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         I need to do it now        
        while I'm not married       

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          and have my life          
           in front of me.          

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      I went home on a Tuesday      
        and told my parents,        

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        "I'm moving to L.A."        

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       And they said, "When?"       

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        I said, "I'm leaving        
             on Sunday."            

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                So...               

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    I mean, it's kind of psycho.    

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 I think pulling into L.A. when    
 the only city you've ever seen    

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            is St. Louis            
      is kind of inexplicable.      

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     So I got a book of studios,    
      working studios in L.A.,      

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   and then I got a Thomas Guide    

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           and I wrote out          
          all the addresses         

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   and just drove around all day    

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      and took my cassette tape     
             in the door            

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            and I'd say,            
         "I am Sheryl Crow.         

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       I'm brand-new in town.       
       I have this demo tape.       

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   Can you please make sure that    

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          somebody hears it         
            or whatever?"           

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       I mean, totally naive.       

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       I took my music around,      
 and people didn't want to know    

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           about a female.          

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       And this is -- this is       
      pre-Tracy Chapman, right?     

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     And I came out one day and     
     there was a boot on my car,    

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        and I couldn't afford       
        to get the boot off,        

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          so I lost my car.         

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        And I was just like,        
     "Oh, my God. Why am I here?    

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          What have I done?         
      How do I get back home?"      

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        I got a waitress job        
            in the Valley           

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     at a place called Le Cafe,     

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        and lots of musicians       
         came through there.        

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     One night I was working and    
   this man, Les Hooper, was in,    

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     and I was told that he was     
       a commercial producer.       

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          Snuck him a tape.         

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      I knew there was a chance     
           I'd get fired.           

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          The next morning,         
            I was let go.           

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     But he listened to my tape.    

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         He called and said,        
          "I don't usually          

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      listen to people's tapes      

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       if they give them to me      
 in a restaurant or something."    

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   He's like, "It's really good.    
         Would you come in?         

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         And I've got a spot        
     I'm gonna have you try on."    

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     So then I started getting,     
         like, little pieces        

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       of work here and there.      

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   I remember calling my parents    
             and saying,            

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     "I'm doing a Johnny Mathis     
      recording session today."     

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          And they're like,         
           "That's great!           

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       You can come home now.       

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          You've made it."          

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      I think I was on the last     
       episode of "Cop Rock."       

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       It was a detective show      
         that was a musical,        

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         if you can imagine.        

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        He's just a squirrel       
     waiting for a pretty girl     

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    He'd like to have his way     

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          There was, like,          
     a dance routine and a song.    

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 In fact, I think it might have    
       already been canceled,       

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     and this was the last one.     

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      - Come and get it, hey      

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      I got something for you     

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     Come on, come and get it     

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   -I had a four-track recorder.    

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    I would come home from work,    

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           and I would sit          
         at that four-track,        

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        and I would sing with       
             Chaka Khan             

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        and then I would sing       
          with Ann Wilson.          

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      I was just always trying      
           to get my voice          

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 to where I could sort of mimic    

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       and also where I could       
         kind of control it.        

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          I would practice,         
      and I would try to write      

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           on my keyboard,          
        I had a drum program.       

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            I didn't have           
        any air conditioning,       

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        and people all night,       
     like 4:00 in the morning --    

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     "Can you shut the fuck up?"    

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       But I just was driven,       
              you know,             

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     and then I would sleep till    
    noon and I would go to work.    

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    And then it just was a cycle    

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                until               
      the Michael Jackson tour.     

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          I found out about         
   the Michael Jackson audition,    

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      snuck in, and auditioned.     

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       I basically just looked      
      into the camera and said,     

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      "Hi, Michael, my name is      
            Sheryl Crow.            

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         I'm from Missouri.         

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        I was a schoolteacher       
         and I'm a singer."         

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       -I remember auditioning      
               Sheryl.              

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        She was just a little       
        perky kid [chuckles]        

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       and with a high voice,       
              you know,             

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          and she was cool.         
        She had a cool sound.       

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           And I thought,           
      okay, let's go with this.     

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 -We got on an airplane, a 747,    

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        which I'd never seen.       

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           I'd never been           
         out of the country.        

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    We were fitted for costumes.    

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        We were given a look.       

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       Like, I had this great,      
           big blond hair.          

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   It's just one of those things    
     that really doesn't hit you    

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     until you begin rehearsing,    
   again, getting your passport.    

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         You sell your car.         
 You get rid of your apartment.    

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      And then all of a sudden,     
          you find yourself         

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     in front of 60,000 people.     

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            [ Cheering ]            

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              I came up             
      the Michael Jackson tour      

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        with some of the most       
            important...            

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      relationships in my life.     

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    -The first time I met Sheryl    
            was in Japan.           

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     I was working on the "Bad"     
      tour in a funny capacity      

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 as sort of a marketing liaison    

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            between Pepsi           
         and Michael's camp.        

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     I think most people assumed    
         I worked for Pepsi,        

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           which I didn't,          

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          I knew they would         
    never hire a person like me.    

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        I do recall a moment        
           at soundcheck.           

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        Sheryl took the mic,        
        and I definitely did        

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      a turnaround double take,     
       and I was like, "Wow."       

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           - Then tell me          
        just what did I do?        

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       -Somebody introduced me      
             to Sheryl.             

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        We became comfortable       
         as friends, really.        

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        -He and I just became       
       very, very, very close.      

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       And one of the reasons       
          we were so close          

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      was he just knew so much      
     about every genre of music.    

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       So he and I just became      
        really great friends.       

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    We continued that friendship    
       after the Jackson tour,      

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       and then he ultimately       
         became my manager.         

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   -Sheryl, Scooter, and myself,    
         we hung out a lot.         

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       We spent a lot of time       
              together,             

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    you know, away from the band    

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           and everything,          
 and she was always so curious,    

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     wanted to learn everything,    

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       wanted to learn guitar,      
             keyboards.             

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       -Greg would come over,       
        and he would give me        

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          his philosophies          
     on building musical hooks,     

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         and we did a bunch         
        of writing together.        

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         -Sheryl was focused        
           on songwriting           

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     and developing her palette     

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     and where she wanted to go     
          from the get-go.          

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    She was always making music.    

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         - Hurry, operator,        
    get redemption on the line     

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      I was invited to hang out     
          in the "A" camp.          

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       While we were in Tokyo,      
         I got a phone call         

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        from one of Michael's       
        security guys saying,       

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        "Hey, Mike wants you        
            to come over            

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 and watch a couple of movies."    

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              I go over             
      to Michael's hotel room.      

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      We watch "Amos 'n' Andy,"     
    and then we watched "Shane,"    

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         and he's giggling,         
       and Bubbles is around.       

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   When Bubbles wouldn't behave,    
   he would take a ballpoint pen    

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           and he'd, like,          
        poke him in the chest       

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        to get his attention        
             and stuff.             

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       I mean, it was like...       

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            It was crazy.           

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    -He did poke him with a BIC.    

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       He just would do like,       
             "Quit it."             

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              You know,             
       you read about chimps,       

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   what they can do to a person.    

295
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           -Yeah, I mean,           
      even when I'm telling it,     

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        I'm thinking this is        
      the weirdest thing ever.      

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          But I didn't ever         
       really get to know him.      

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         I was pretty naive,        

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     but I still thought it was     
     so weird that Michael had,     

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 you know, a couple little boys    

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        on the road with him        
         at different times.        

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   Now, knowing what is alleged,    

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           it makes me sad          
        for the life he had.        

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       Obviously, it makes us       
      all sad for the children.     

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   It's just -- it's devastating    
        to even think about.        

306
00:14:20,484 --> 00:14:22,069
                                  

307
00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:24,238
         -"I Just Can't Stop        
        Loving You" was a big       

308
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      duet moment in the tour.      

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          Sheryl was put in         
           that spotlight,          

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        and she commanded it.       

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          She belted it out         
     nose-to-nose with Michael.     

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        -She couldn't believe       
         she had to walk out        

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       in this tight miniskirt      
         and wear these wigs        

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          that were almost          
         as big as she was.         

315
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       You know,   massive   wig,       
      you know, and all made up     

316
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          and all dolled up         
    in the heels and everything.    

317
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     - When morning awakes me     

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   Sometimes he'd   really   want it    
           to look sexual,          

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              you know,             
       like, he'd grab my hip.      

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    And by the end of that tour,    

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             everywhere             
        in all the tabloids,        

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       I was gonna marry him,       
     I was gonna have his baby.     

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         -The tabloid aspect        
         of the Jackson tour        

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         was super extreme.         

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      The press was saying that     

326
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         Sheryl and Michael         
           were a couple.           

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     -I mean, please, you know?     

328
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         You sing the duet,         
            so obviously,           

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        "Oh, then you must be       
         seeing each other."        

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     "No, we're singing a duet."    

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       -Every article would be      

332
00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,788
      so completely outlandish      
              about me.             

333
00:15:14,788 --> 00:15:16,123
   In hindsight, it probably was    

334
00:15:16,123 --> 00:15:19,919
       planted with publicists      
             and things.            

335
00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:21,921
         - And if I stop          

336
00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:24,298
       [ Cheers and applause ]      

337
00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:29,136
       -I think the first time      
     I spoke my mind, lyrically,    

338
00:15:29,136 --> 00:15:31,597
        it was a song called        
      "What I Can Do for You."      

339
00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:33,599
         The song is really         
         from the standpoint        

340
00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:36,685
       of the sexual harasser,      
   particularly in our business.    

341
00:15:36,685 --> 00:15:40,856
 It was about my own experience    
       with sexual harassment.      

342
00:15:42,274 --> 00:15:44,610
       What I can do for you      

343
00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:50,032
         There's no one else       
   on God's green earth can do     

344
00:15:52,117 --> 00:15:53,452
     There was a lot of interest    

345
00:15:53,452 --> 00:15:56,622
 from Michael Jackson's manager    
            to manage me.           

346
00:15:56,622 --> 00:15:59,500
     This manager was signed to     
    manage Michael specifically,    

347
00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:01,418
              and only,             
      so for him to manage me,      

348
00:16:01,418 --> 00:16:02,920
      he would have been fired.     

349
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,380
     Now, I don't know anything     

350
00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:05,589
              about how             
      the music business works.     

351
00:16:05,589 --> 00:16:07,341
      I know you get your songs     
             to somebody            

352
00:16:07,341 --> 00:16:10,094
      who either is a producer      
 or is inside the record label,    

353
00:16:10,094 --> 00:16:11,261
        or they come see you,       

354
00:16:11,261 --> 00:16:12,429
         and then you worked        
             really hard            

355
00:16:12,429 --> 00:16:13,931
            and you were            
        a really nice person        

356
00:16:13,931 --> 00:16:15,140
      and you wrote good songs,     

357
00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:17,351
        and then you made it        
       or you didn't make it.       

358
00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:20,229
      I have so much to offer     

359
00:16:20,229 --> 00:16:21,939
         If you just be nice        

360
00:16:21,939 --> 00:16:27,319
      If you do what I say and     
    don't make me say it twice     

361
00:16:27,319 --> 00:16:29,947
       He said, "This is what       
     we're gonna be able to do.     

362
00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:31,740
          We will guarantee         

363
00:16:31,740 --> 00:16:34,159
    that the album will come out    
            in the top 10           

364
00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:37,997
    and the single will come out    
       as well in the top 10."      

365
00:16:38,372 --> 00:16:41,417
         Within a matter of         
           a couple weeks,          

366
00:16:41,417 --> 00:16:43,210
          any kind of event         
           that was held,           

367
00:16:43,210 --> 00:16:46,338
         I always had to go         
       with Michael's manager,      

368
00:16:46,338 --> 00:16:48,424
              and then              
   the sexual harassment started    

369
00:16:48,424 --> 00:16:51,301
       with his manager being,      
         like, all over me,         

370
00:16:51,301 --> 00:16:56,432
    and it was a constant battle    
      of keeping him off of me.     

371
00:16:56,974 --> 00:16:58,308
       -Frank was a gangster.       

372
00:16:58,308 --> 00:17:00,436
              You know,             
      let's not sugarcoat that.     

373
00:17:00,436 --> 00:17:03,063
       I mean, he wasn't cast       
      in the movie "Goodfellas"     

374
00:17:03,063 --> 00:17:04,231
            by accident.            

375
00:17:04,231 --> 00:17:06,525
         -She confided in me        
 that there was pressure on her    

376
00:17:06,525 --> 00:17:09,695
       to become more familiar      
             with Frank             

377
00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:12,281
              on levels             
     that she was uncomfortable.    

378
00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:13,741
               -I told              
      the three backup singers      

379
00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:15,909
       that I was working with      
         what had happened,         

380
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:17,286
     and I was really terrified.    

381
00:17:17,286 --> 00:17:22,207
   So I finally contacted a very    
    high-powered music attorney,    

382
00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:24,168
             and I said,            
       "Look, I'm frightened.       

383
00:17:24,168 --> 00:17:28,255
       I've already been told       
      if I ever blow this cover     

384
00:17:28,255 --> 00:17:30,674
    that I will never work again    

385
00:17:30,674 --> 00:17:32,384
           and that I need          
         to watch my back."         

386
00:17:32,384 --> 00:17:34,386
     And then he ultimately, at     
   the end of the meeting, said,    

387
00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:39,224
 "Look, you will come out ahead    
 if you can just stick it out."    

388
00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:42,478
     And the last thing he said     
     was that, "There are people    

389
00:17:42,478 --> 00:17:45,314
        that would die to be        
         in this situation."        

390
00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:51,403
      And I just sunk into the      
 darkest, most depressed place,    

391
00:17:51,403 --> 00:17:55,908
     just the disappointment of     
   the way the real world works.    

392
00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,911
     And I was really destroyed.    

393
00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:01,330
       What I can do for you      

394
00:18:01,330 --> 00:18:04,708
        There's no one else,       
            no one else            

395
00:18:04,708 --> 00:18:08,420
        No one else gonna do       
              for you              

396
00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:10,589
         Just ask anybody         

397
00:18:10,589 --> 00:18:13,217
        And they'll tell you       
          that it's true           

398
00:18:13,217 --> 00:18:14,593
         There's no one else       
             on earth              

399
00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:19,306
          Can do the things        
       that I can do for you       

400
00:18:19,306 --> 00:18:20,599
           Yeah, for you          

401
00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:23,018
       -One day I was sitting       
            in my office,           

402
00:18:23,018 --> 00:18:24,436
      I got a call from Frank.      

403
00:18:24,436 --> 00:18:27,689
    He said to me that he didn't    
      like what she had to say      

404
00:18:27,689 --> 00:18:29,441
        in one of her songs,        
            and he said,            

405
00:18:29,441 --> 00:18:32,277
    "Well, we're gonna sue you."    
      And I said, "Go for it."      

406
00:18:32,277 --> 00:18:34,780
     And I never heard from him     
               again.               

407
00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:38,617
                                  

408
00:18:38,617 --> 00:18:41,203
          -When I got home          
        from the Jackson tour       

409
00:18:41,203 --> 00:18:43,372
         and after I kind of        
       pulled myself together,      

410
00:18:43,372 --> 00:18:45,958
     I auditioned for this band     
         called Toy Matinee         

411
00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:47,126
     that Kevin Gilbert was in,     

412
00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:48,585
         and I got the part         
         of keyboard player         

413
00:18:48,585 --> 00:18:52,047
      and started dating Kevin,     
       which is such a cliché.      

414
00:18:52,047 --> 00:18:54,133
   But this guy was   so   talented.    

415
00:18:54,133 --> 00:18:56,343
          So he invited me          
        to this thing called        

416
00:18:56,343 --> 00:18:57,678
   the Tuesday Night Music Club.    

417
00:18:57,678 --> 00:19:01,890
        -What in the world is       
   the Tuesday Night Music Club?    

418
00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:03,851
      -A club of wild partiers      

419
00:19:03,851 --> 00:19:06,687
        who all happen to be        
           artists in L.A.          

420
00:19:06,687 --> 00:19:08,105
    It was a pretty heady crowd.    

421
00:19:08,105 --> 00:19:09,648
           I mean, it was           
          a lot of drinking         

422
00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:11,608
    and some guys dropping acid.    

423
00:19:11,608 --> 00:19:14,695
         I mean, it was like        
            freethinkers.           

424
00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:17,197
   -Kevin Gilbert brought her in    

425
00:19:17,197 --> 00:19:21,368
    to our Tuesday Night session    
           very early on.           

426
00:19:21,368 --> 00:19:22,828
        It was unbelievable.        

427
00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:27,541
     Something of a higher order    
           came together.           

428
00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:31,211
     -I think the first session     
               we did,              

429
00:19:31,211 --> 00:19:34,298
        we wrote and recorded       
        "Leaving Las Vegas."        

430
00:19:34,298 --> 00:19:36,383
    -Sheryl took the lyric sheet    
        and started singing.        

431
00:19:36,383 --> 00:19:40,596
    She sat over on a chair over    
     in the corner and sang it,     

432
00:19:40,596 --> 00:19:41,972
            and she sang            
         the shit out of it.        

433
00:19:41,972 --> 00:19:46,226
 -I remember Bill saying to me,    
        "I love your singing        

434
00:19:46,226 --> 00:19:49,062
       when you're not trying       
           to sing great."          

435
00:19:49,062 --> 00:19:52,524
   -The diversity of her vocals,    
     I mean, it's unbelievable.     

436
00:19:52,524 --> 00:19:55,569
        She owns every song,        
        owns every character.       

437
00:19:55,569 --> 00:20:00,282
           When she sings           
       and also when we write,      

438
00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:01,575
      everything came to life.      

439
00:20:01,575 --> 00:20:04,536
   -I think up until that point,    
       there was not, like, a,      

440
00:20:04,536 --> 00:20:06,663
            "We're making           
      a record   for   this girl."      

441
00:20:06,663 --> 00:20:10,751
    And then Bill started really    
       managing the situation,      

442
00:20:10,751 --> 00:20:12,878
     only letting people come in    
            when needed.            

443
00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:15,756
        And Kevin didn't like       
         not being invited,         

444
00:20:15,756 --> 00:20:18,258
           so that started          
       to cause real friction,      

445
00:20:18,258 --> 00:20:21,220
        and our relationship        
       started deteriorating.       

446
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:25,182
         -I was in charge of        
           getting it made          

447
00:20:25,182 --> 00:20:28,060
          and curating it,          
         if that's the word.        

448
00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:29,394
          It's like a stew.         

449
00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:34,274
       The other band guys --       
    they weren't there for that.    

450
00:20:34,274 --> 00:20:35,692
      -We would drink a bunch,      

451
00:20:35,692 --> 00:20:37,778
      we'd go to the bookstore      
           down the road,           

452
00:20:37,778 --> 00:20:41,406
     and we bought a poetry book    
   by this man named Wyn Cooper.    

453
00:20:41,406 --> 00:20:44,701
     And there was a poem in it     
      first thing called "Fun."     

454
00:20:44,701 --> 00:20:46,245
        It started off with,        
          "All I want to do         

455
00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:49,331
        is have a little fun        
           before I die."           

456
00:20:49,331 --> 00:20:51,458
            And so we had           
          this groove going         

457
00:20:51,458 --> 00:20:54,294
     that was somewhere between     
           Stealers Wheel           

458
00:20:54,294 --> 00:20:56,380
      and a Marvin Gaye track,      

459
00:20:56,380 --> 00:20:57,714
           and I picked up          
           the poetry book          

460
00:20:57,714 --> 00:21:00,634
          and started just          
         kind of free form,         

461
00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:03,470
       All I wanna do is have      
     a little fun before I die     

462
00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:05,973
        Says a man next to me      
          out of nowhere           

463
00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:08,850
         And I just kind of         
         acted out the poem.        

464
00:21:08,850 --> 00:21:12,604
           And then we put          
           this hook in --          

465
00:21:12,604 --> 00:21:14,690
          All I wanna do          

466
00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:15,816
      And that became the song.     

467
00:21:15,816 --> 00:21:18,860
           All I wanna do          
         is have some fun          

468
00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:22,739
           I got a feeling         
       I'm not the only one        

469
00:21:22,739 --> 00:21:24,032
       Well, all I wanna do       

470
00:21:24,032 --> 00:21:26,618
      By the end of the record,     
      I was thinking, you know,     

471
00:21:26,618 --> 00:21:29,788
      that song is really cool,     
 but it's -- it's such a B-side    

472
00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:33,792
        and it's so esoteric        
           and so quirky.           

473
00:21:33,792 --> 00:21:35,502
    We should just leave it off.    

474
00:21:35,502 --> 00:21:36,878
          And Bill's like,          
      "We   can't   leave it off."      

475
00:21:36,878 --> 00:21:38,588
       And I was like, "Well,       
      I got to contact this guy     

476
00:21:38,588 --> 00:21:41,466
            and tell him            
        we've used his poem."       

477
00:21:41,466 --> 00:21:43,468
        So we looked for him.       
            I called him.           

478
00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:45,387
             I was like,            
     "I know you don't know me.     

479
00:21:45,387 --> 00:21:46,805
        We've used your poem.       

480
00:21:46,805 --> 00:21:49,683
 We want to give you, you know,    
        half the songwriting,       

481
00:21:49,683 --> 00:21:52,144
          should the thing          
     ever see the light of day."    

482
00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:55,272
         And he's like, "Oh,        
     that's great, that's great.    

483
00:21:55,272 --> 00:21:57,149
    [ "All I Wanna Do" playing ]    

484
00:21:57,149 --> 00:22:00,569
       I like a good beer buzz     
       early in the morning        

485
00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:02,571
         And Billy likes to        
          peel the labels          

486
00:22:02,571 --> 00:22:03,947
     Off those bottles of Bud     

487
00:22:03,947 --> 00:22:08,076
      The anniversary Woodstock     
     in '94 was a game changer.     

488
00:22:08,076 --> 00:22:10,704
             We came out            
   and we played our hearts out,    

489
00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:14,458
          and then suddenly         
       we were being noticed.       

490
00:22:14,458 --> 00:22:17,127
     -It's really quite a thing     
             to witness.            

491
00:22:17,127 --> 00:22:18,754
     It's like a match striking     

492
00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:21,506
          and then somebody         
         throwing oil on it.        

493
00:22:21,506 --> 00:22:23,508
          It moves so fast          
         you don't even know        

494
00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,260
       what your next move is.      

495
00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:31,016
      - Until the sun comes up     
   over Santa Monica Boulevard     

496
00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:33,018
          -All of a sudden          
      you're hearing it, like,      

497
00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:36,021
            in drugstores           
         and grocery stores         

498
00:22:36,021 --> 00:22:39,649
         and then magazines         
        are talking about it.       

499
00:22:39,649 --> 00:22:43,737
 Hairdressers are giving people    
       the Sheryl Crow curls.       

500
00:22:43,737 --> 00:22:45,447
      The song was everywhere.      

501
00:22:45,447 --> 00:22:50,243
          - All I wanna do         
         is have some fun          

502
00:22:50,243 --> 00:22:51,578
                -Oh!                

503
00:22:51,578 --> 00:22:53,497
          -There's a moment         
           when a hit song          

504
00:22:53,497 --> 00:22:55,499
       takes on its own life.       

505
00:22:55,499 --> 00:22:57,834
          It becomes bigger         
            than the song           

506
00:22:57,834 --> 00:22:59,961
        and sometimes bigger        
          than the artist.          

507
00:22:59,961 --> 00:23:02,672
        And that's definitely       
     something to watch out for,    

508
00:23:02,672 --> 00:23:05,217
            especially on           
          your first album.         

509
00:23:05,217 --> 00:23:09,805
                                  

510
00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:11,431
              -They put             
       "Leaving Las Vegas" out      

511
00:23:11,431 --> 00:23:13,016
           and it started           
          to have traction.         

512
00:23:13,016 --> 00:23:16,061
     We started to get some TV,     
     and I got David Letterman.     

513
00:23:16,061 --> 00:23:19,272
    -Now, this right here, kids,    
      is her debut CD entitled      

514
00:23:19,272 --> 00:23:20,690
     "Tuesday Night Music Club."    

515
00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:23,527
     Making her first appearance    
              with us,              

516
00:23:23,527 --> 00:23:24,694
         here's Sheryl Crow.        

517
00:23:24,694 --> 00:23:26,446
        Sheryl, come on out.        

518
00:23:26,446 --> 00:23:28,782
            [ Applause ]            

519
00:23:28,782 --> 00:23:31,243
        [ "Leaving Las Vegas"       
              playing ]             

520
00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:35,872
                                  

521
00:23:35,872 --> 00:23:38,792
       Life springs eternal       

522
00:23:38,792 --> 00:23:42,629
      On a gaudy neon street      

523
00:23:42,629 --> 00:23:45,173
      Not that I care at all      

524
00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:48,969
            Now I'm...            

525
00:23:48,969 --> 00:23:50,512
        You know, you grow up       
          and you watch TV,         

526
00:23:50,512 --> 00:23:51,888
       and you see Ed Sullivan      
       and you see Dick Clark       

527
00:23:51,888 --> 00:23:53,723
    and he's interviewing people    
             and stuff.             

528
00:23:53,723 --> 00:23:55,100
      And that's TV, you know,      

529
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,269
      and then all of a sudden      
            you're on TV.           

530
00:23:57,269 --> 00:24:01,857
       I'm leaving Las Vegas      

531
00:24:02,899 --> 00:24:05,735
        David Letterman, who        
     was really the first person    

532
00:24:05,735 --> 00:24:07,946
     to have me on national TV,     

533
00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:10,157
     who had kind of discovered     
        the record on his own       

534
00:24:10,157 --> 00:24:12,200
      driving back and forth to     
      his house in Connecticut,     

535
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,910
           said, you know,          
     "Come over and talk to me,"    

536
00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:16,746
           and, you know,           
       it was Dave Letterman.       

537
00:24:16,746 --> 00:24:19,416
          -Nice to see you.         
       Thanks for being here.       

538
00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:21,251
             -Thank you.            
         -Have a seat there.        

539
00:24:21,251 --> 00:24:22,544
       [ Cheers and applause ]      

540
00:24:22,544 --> 00:24:24,880
        The crowd goes crazy.       
               -Whaa!               

541
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,590
              He said,              
       "So what is this song?       

542
00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:28,049
            Is this thing           
         autobiographical?"         

543
00:24:28,049 --> 00:24:30,802
   And I'm so nervous, I'm like,    
      "Well, I mean, kind of."      

544
00:24:30,802 --> 00:24:32,679
    -I'm guessing -- and I think    
    I know the answer to this --    

545
00:24:32,679 --> 00:24:34,973
        that song in some way       
      must be autobiographical.     

546
00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:36,933
          Is that correct?          
              -Uh, yes.             

547
00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:40,312
     -Which is a stupid question    
         for a guy like him.        

548
00:24:40,312 --> 00:24:44,733
     It's like, it's a   character    
        sung by Sheryl Crow.        

549
00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:47,569
    This is a little complicated    
         to describe, right?        

550
00:24:47,569 --> 00:24:50,155
        So she said, "Yeah."        
             [ Laughs ]             

551
00:24:51,698 --> 00:24:53,575
          Well, you know...         

552
00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:55,452
      -I've never lived there.      
 -You never lived in Las Vegas.    

553
00:24:55,452 --> 00:24:56,870
           -No, I haven't.          
         -You worked there?         

554
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:58,497
    -Haven't really worked there    
               either.              

555
00:24:58,497 --> 00:24:59,664
     -Have you ever been there?     

556
00:24:59,664 --> 00:25:00,957
           -Yes, I've lost          
        a lot of money there.       

557
00:25:00,957 --> 00:25:02,626
    -Could you find it on a map?    
                -Yes.               

558
00:25:02,626 --> 00:25:05,212
        I wasn't prepared for       
          how overwhelming          

559
00:25:05,212 --> 00:25:08,840
 it would feel to have somebody    
      that I had watched on TV      

560
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,217
          ask me questions.         

561
00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:12,093
   Originally, the song was very    
   metaphorical for Los Angeles,    

562
00:25:12,093 --> 00:25:14,137
       that people move there       
       with these great dreams      

563
00:25:14,137 --> 00:25:15,847
          and they wind up          
      being very disillusioned.     

564
00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:19,643
    And so that's what Las Vegas    
         seems to exemplify.        

565
00:25:19,643 --> 00:25:20,936
        -Then why didn't you        
            call the song           

566
00:25:20,936 --> 00:25:22,020
     "I'm Leaving Los Angeles"?     

567
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:24,314
              In fact,              
    every major American city --    

568
00:25:24,314 --> 00:25:26,733
     "I'm Leaving Minneapolis."     

569
00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:28,026
      "I'm Leaving Milwaukee."      

570
00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:29,903
 -Milwaukee's a good one, yeah.    

571
00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:32,489
      "I'm Leaving New York"...     
              shortly.              

572
00:25:32,489 --> 00:25:33,615
                -No.                

573
00:25:33,615 --> 00:25:35,158
       [ Cheers and applause ]      

574
00:25:35,158 --> 00:25:37,827
      -Yes, if I could go back      
          and do it again,          

575
00:25:37,827 --> 00:25:39,246
 certainly I would feel my feet    

576
00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:41,706
   and I would try to put myself    
     in my body and I would say,    

577
00:25:41,706 --> 00:25:43,667
       "You know, what a great      
     experience being in a room     

578
00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:45,919
     with all these incredible,     
         intellectual people        

579
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:47,671
           and being able           
          to jam a song out         

580
00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:49,089
       and put together lyrics      
             together."             

581
00:25:49,089 --> 00:25:52,759
     And, you know, I could have    
     told that story, you know,     

582
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:55,220
        but I couldn't think.       

583
00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:59,099
     -The drama that followed --    
         it was a shit show.        

584
00:25:59,099 --> 00:26:03,645
   -And I came home the next day    
      to just a massive blow-up     

585
00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:05,939
      of the guys in the group      
               saying,              

586
00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:07,816
            "She's taken            
       totally credit for it."      

587
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:10,068
      And then come to find out     
     that there had been a book     

588
00:26:10,068 --> 00:26:11,695
     called "Leaving Las Vegas."    

589
00:26:11,695 --> 00:26:15,031
            And the title           
        was brought in to us        

590
00:26:15,031 --> 00:26:17,993
        by one of the guys in       
   the Tuesday Night Music Club.    

591
00:26:17,993 --> 00:26:20,787
           And he had said          
     we had promised the writer,    

592
00:26:20,787 --> 00:26:22,122
      John O'Brien, publishing,     

593
00:26:22,122 --> 00:26:24,165
              and that              
      I was fully aware of it.      

594
00:26:24,165 --> 00:26:28,461
     And after David Letterman,     
   the author committed suicide.    

595
00:26:30,505 --> 00:26:32,424
               And...               

596
00:26:34,884 --> 00:26:36,886
              I just...             

597
00:26:36,886 --> 00:26:39,139
               I mean,              
      I just went into a hole.      

598
00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:41,975
   I -- I just went into a hole.    

599
00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:46,104
    -The press unfairly cast her    
           as the bad guy,          

600
00:26:46,104 --> 00:26:49,441
     and she carried that weight    
          for a long time.          

601
00:26:51,943 --> 00:26:53,862
     -It's that good-girl thing     
       where you're just like,      

602
00:26:53,862 --> 00:26:55,238
          [voice breaking]          
    "I would never hurt anybody.    

603
00:26:55,238 --> 00:26:56,865
         I would never want         
        anybody to be hurt."        

604
00:26:56,865 --> 00:26:59,075
      [ Normal voice ] And then     
     it's all of that, you know.    

605
00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:02,912
         It all ties into...        

606
00:27:02,912 --> 00:27:04,706
        you know, work hard,        
          be a good person.         

607
00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:06,958
        And then you just --        
          all of a sudden,          

608
00:27:06,958 --> 00:27:08,585
 you just wake up and you're --    

609
00:27:08,585 --> 00:27:12,380
   wake up and you realize, wow.    

610
00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:14,549
        What happened? So...        

611
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,679
       [ Crying ] Can we just       
     take a break for a second?     

612
00:27:23,099 --> 00:27:25,477
     Picking up an "L.A. Weekly"    
       and seeing an interview      

613
00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:28,772
     with the person that was in    
      Tuesday Night Music Club,     

614
00:27:28,772 --> 00:27:31,983
       and to read it in print      
       and to see the lies --       

615
00:27:31,983 --> 00:27:33,902
           it changed me.           

616
00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:36,112
         -I never supported         
           that narrative.          

617
00:27:36,112 --> 00:27:37,906
      The press wants a drama.      

618
00:27:37,906 --> 00:27:41,951
        -It took that little,       
       innocent, young person       

619
00:27:41,951 --> 00:27:43,286
     that was on David Letterman    

620
00:27:43,286 --> 00:27:48,166
     and made me not want to be     
         accessible anymore.        

621
00:27:49,876 --> 00:27:51,586
            [ Applause ]            

622
00:27:51,586 --> 00:27:54,464
 -And the Best New Artist is...    

623
00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:56,132
            -Sheryl Crow.           

624
00:27:56,132 --> 00:27:58,093
      -At that point, there was     
       quite a lot of friction      

625
00:27:58,093 --> 00:27:59,386
              with the              
      Tuesday Night Music Club.     

626
00:27:59,386 --> 00:28:02,222
     And I remember looking out     
           and seeing them          

627
00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:06,017
   and not feeling the happiness    
            or the pride.           

628
00:28:06,017 --> 00:28:07,227
          But nonetheless,          
          they were there,          

629
00:28:07,227 --> 00:28:09,938
     and just how self-conscious    
               I felt.              

630
00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:11,731
      Most importantly, I want      
       to thank Bill Bottrell,      

631
00:28:11,731 --> 00:28:13,149
         who helped me make         
            this record,            

632
00:28:13,149 --> 00:28:15,235
   and all the artists I've been    
         very inspired by --        

633
00:28:15,235 --> 00:28:17,862
           David Baerwald,          
 David Ricketts, Kevin Gilbert.    

634
00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:19,280
      Wyn Cooper, who actually      
            came up with            

635
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,990
           "All I wanna do          
         is have some fun."         

636
00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:22,867
      Most importantly, though,     
     I want to thank my manager,    

637
00:28:22,867 --> 00:28:25,870
     who's a first-time manager     
       who's been working for       

638
00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:28,206
   no money up until now for me.    

639
00:28:28,206 --> 00:28:30,083
        He's my best friend.        
         His name's Scooter.        

640
00:28:30,083 --> 00:28:32,127
    And he really deserves this.    

641
00:28:32,127 --> 00:28:33,753
      By the end of the night,      

642
00:28:33,753 --> 00:28:35,380
          the last award --         
       it's the biggest award.      

643
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:37,799
          You're up against         
         Bruce Springsteen.         

644
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,677
         I was not thinking         
        that I was gonna win.       

645
00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:43,805
     -And the Record of the Year    
                is...               

646
00:28:44,848 --> 00:28:47,058
        ..."All I Wanna Do,"        
            Sheryl Crow.            

647
00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:48,560
       [ Cheers and applause ]      

648
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,270
         - All I wanna do         

649
00:28:50,270 --> 00:28:52,856
      Bill was very consistent      
           with who he was          

650
00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:53,857
      when we made the record.      

651
00:28:53,857 --> 00:28:55,942
       We accepted the Grammys      
              together              

652
00:28:55,942 --> 00:28:57,193
      and it was a celebration.     

653
00:28:57,193 --> 00:29:01,114
       I mean, it really was.       
    And that changed everything.    

654
00:29:01,948 --> 00:29:04,826
     As soon as that record won     
         Record of the Year,        

655
00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:07,036
          Best New Artist,          
          Song of the Year,         

656
00:29:07,036 --> 00:29:10,290
      our record sales doubled.     

657
00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:12,709
     -Sheryl was working 24/7 --    

658
00:29:12,709 --> 00:29:15,670
   videos, interviews, concerts.    

659
00:29:15,670 --> 00:29:17,088
      It was just never-ending.     

660
00:29:17,088 --> 00:29:18,840
   -The irony of it was, though,    

661
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,800
      we hadn't seen any money      
              from it.              

662
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,137
        My manager was still        
      working out of his closet     

663
00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:26,347
           across the hall          
         from his apartment,        

664
00:29:26,347 --> 00:29:28,725
       and I was still driving      
         an old Volkswagen.         

665
00:29:28,725 --> 00:29:31,269
       [ Laughs ] Volkswagen.       

666
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:33,313
            -Sheryl and I           
      would share a hotel room.     

667
00:29:33,313 --> 00:29:35,148
           I would get up           
       at 8:00 in the morning,      

668
00:29:35,148 --> 00:29:36,357
        go down to the lobby,       

669
00:29:36,357 --> 00:29:38,860
      and have my calling card      
         in the phone booth.        

670
00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:40,111
         And that was that.         

671
00:29:40,111 --> 00:29:43,281
      And then if, like, I had      
     a girlfriend and she'd call    

672
00:29:43,281 --> 00:29:45,742
   or Sheryl was dating somebody    
          and they'd call,          

673
00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:47,076
          we would kind of          
         make believe, like,        

674
00:29:47,076 --> 00:29:48,870
           "Oh, let me see          
           if she's here,"          

675
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:53,082
      and then count 10 seconds     
      and hand the phone over.      

676
00:29:53,082 --> 00:29:54,417
      -Those were awesome days.     

677
00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:56,085
          I mean, you know,         
         you got off stage,         

678
00:29:56,085 --> 00:29:57,170
    you hung out with your band,    

679
00:29:57,170 --> 00:29:58,421
            played music,           
          drank some beers,         

680
00:29:58,421 --> 00:30:00,381
          crawled into bed,         
   and woke up the next morning,    

681
00:30:00,381 --> 00:30:03,343
         did press all day,         
          soundcheck, gig,          

682
00:30:03,343 --> 00:30:05,929
          drink some beers,         
 watch a movie, go back to bed.    

683
00:30:05,929 --> 00:30:08,139
             It was like            
      the same thing on repeat.     

684
00:30:08,139 --> 00:30:09,557
     We finally got a tour bus,     

685
00:30:09,557 --> 00:30:12,101
         and that was, like,        
        the biggest day ever.       

686
00:30:12,101 --> 00:30:15,063
        Come back, come back.       
     This one down here is mine.    

687
00:30:15,063 --> 00:30:18,942
       So you can see you have      
       the necessary tools --       

688
00:30:18,942 --> 00:30:22,529
 leather hat, Pumas, [chuckles]    

689
00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:25,448
 and a curling iron, of course,    
          and other things          

690
00:30:25,448 --> 00:30:27,742
         that we don't have         
     to really get into, do we?     

691
00:30:27,742 --> 00:30:28,660
               Ha, ha!              

692
00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:31,996
    It was a pink bus and it had    
      a tilted champagne glass      

693
00:30:31,996 --> 00:30:33,998
      with little droplets, and     
     whenever people would yell,    

694
00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:36,709
      "Who's in the tour bus?"      
          we'd always yell,         

695
00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:38,628
           "Dolly Parton!"          

696
00:30:38,628 --> 00:30:40,755
             [ Laughs ]             

697
00:30:40,755 --> 00:30:43,216
      I got a dog named Scout.      

698
00:30:43,216 --> 00:30:45,552
           I adopted him.           

699
00:30:45,552 --> 00:30:46,803
             It's Scout!            

700
00:30:46,803 --> 00:30:48,263
     And he went on every tour,     

701
00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:53,059
        with the exception of       
       overseas, for 13 years.      

702
00:30:53,059 --> 00:30:54,936
            [ Smooches ]            

703
00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:57,146
           Ah, happiness.           

704
00:30:57,146 --> 00:31:00,108
      -I remember driving down      
     Sunset and seeing her name     

705
00:31:00,108 --> 00:31:01,901
 on the marquee of the Whiskey.    

706
00:31:01,901 --> 00:31:05,321
     Like, "Oh, man, she did it!    

707
00:31:05,321 --> 00:31:08,783
             She did it!            
        Wow, this is crazy."        

708
00:31:09,117 --> 00:31:13,246
 - Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, run     

709
00:31:13,246 --> 00:31:19,544
         Run baby, run baby,       
           run baby, run           

710
00:31:23,506 --> 00:31:29,262
         Run baby, run baby,       
        run baby, run baby         

711
00:31:29,262 --> 00:31:31,890
                Run               

712
00:31:35,018 --> 00:31:40,899
         Run baby, run baby,       
        run baby, run baby         

713
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:42,817
                Run               

714
00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:48,281
  Gotta keep on running, run     

715
00:31:48,281 --> 00:31:49,282
             Run baby             

716
00:31:49,282 --> 00:31:50,491
         We were in France,         

717
00:31:50,491 --> 00:31:52,577
      which was where my record     
       was doing really well.       

718
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:56,164
        4:00 in the morning,        
   I get a call from Mick Jagger    

719
00:31:56,164 --> 00:31:57,665
      asking me if I would come     

720
00:31:57,665 --> 00:32:00,585
      and do their pay-per-view     
         with them in Miami.        

721
00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:02,420
      And they were gonna send      
           a private jet,           

722
00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:04,172
        which I'd never seen        
           a private jet.           

723
00:32:04,172 --> 00:32:06,299
        And I got over there,       
         and Keith came over        

724
00:32:06,299 --> 00:32:09,260
     and put his arm around me,     
     and, "Hey, little sister,"     

725
00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:12,305
       which he has called me       
             ever since.            

726
00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:15,350
       -I had known something       
            about Sheryl.           

727
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:16,643
      I had heard her records.      

728
00:32:16,643 --> 00:32:20,021
   What a great voice, you know,    
      really, you know, strong.     

729
00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:22,190
          -We rehearsed it.         
            It went fine.           

730
00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:25,818
       The next day I got up,       
      I threw up all day long.      

731
00:32:25,818 --> 00:32:28,488
      I was totally terrified.      

732
00:32:28,488 --> 00:32:29,864
   I get ready. I go over there.    

733
00:32:29,864 --> 00:32:32,450
    I'm telling Scooter, "I just    
     don't think I can do this."    

734
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:33,618
       -She's flown a long way      
            to get here.            

735
00:32:33,618 --> 00:32:35,620
      I'm hoping she's got over     
            her jet lag.            

736
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,956
          -And right before         
         I was walking out,         

737
00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:40,166
     as Mick was announcing me,     

738
00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:42,335
        Bobby Keys handed me        
       some tequila and said,       

739
00:32:42,335 --> 00:32:45,171
      "Take a shot of courage,"     
         and pushed me out.         

740
00:32:45,171 --> 00:32:49,092
          -I wish her luck.         
     Beautiful Miss Sheryl Crow.    

741
00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:52,053
       [ Cheers and applause ]      

742
00:32:52,053 --> 00:32:54,222
     [ "Live With Me" playing ]     

743
00:32:54,222 --> 00:32:58,518
                                  

744
00:32:58,518 --> 00:33:01,813
        I got nasty habits        

745
00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:04,065
        I take tea at three       

746
00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:06,693
         With the meat I eat       
            for dinner             

747
00:33:06,693 --> 00:33:10,154
          I must be hung up        
            for a week             

748
00:33:10,154 --> 00:33:14,659
     -She would very well handle    
       Mick Jagger, you know.       

749
00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:18,371
        To me, just standing        
        in the back going...        

750
00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:20,123
      "Wow, this girl's strong,     
              you know?             

751
00:33:20,123 --> 00:33:23,376
        She's not putting up        
     with any of his bullshit."     

752
00:33:23,584 --> 00:33:27,046
          - Don'cha think          
      there's a place for us       

753
00:33:27,046 --> 00:33:29,132
     Right across the street?     

754
00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:33,344
            Don'cha think          
      there's a place for you      

755
00:33:33,344 --> 00:33:35,638
      In between the sheets?      

756
00:33:35,638 --> 00:33:38,266
              - Yeah              
     -She was very strong girl.     

757
00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:40,727
 Later on, a very genuine girl.    

758
00:33:40,727 --> 00:33:44,272
      In a way, very sensitive      
      and very sweet, you know.     

759
00:33:44,272 --> 00:33:46,315
     But there's a lot of tough     
              in there,             

760
00:33:46,315 --> 00:33:49,360
           and, you know,           
      which is a good mixture.      

761
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,696
       [ Cheers and applause ]      

762
00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:55,324
    -I went home, and Bill and I    
      decided we'd get together     

763
00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:58,327
             and write,             
        and we drank martinis       

764
00:33:58,327 --> 00:34:02,623
      and went out for a great      
    dinner and did some writing,    

765
00:34:02,623 --> 00:34:07,336
         and then we decided        
     we would go to New Orleans     

766
00:34:07,336 --> 00:34:09,547
         to make our record.        

767
00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:13,801
 The first record had sold like    
     five or six million copies,    

768
00:34:13,801 --> 00:34:17,555
 and we headed down to Kingsway    
      with this immense amount      

769
00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:19,515
             of pressure            
      for the sophomore record      

770
00:34:19,515 --> 00:34:22,143
       to live up to the first      
               record.              

771
00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:23,394
         You know, that word        
            "potential,"            

772
00:34:23,394 --> 00:34:24,604
     how it can be so negative.     

773
00:34:24,604 --> 00:34:26,355
        Like, "You have   such        
              potential."            

774
00:34:26,355 --> 00:34:28,399
       It's almost like, "Man,      
     you could really blow it."     

775
00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:30,651
      What   potential,   you know?     

776
00:34:30,651 --> 00:34:33,696
      Our first day at Kingsway     
         was kind of quirky.        

777
00:34:33,696 --> 00:34:37,450
    We get there, and this woman    
 rolls out from under the board    

778
00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:40,369
   on, like, an automobile caddy    
             on her back            

779
00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:42,455
            with goggles            
        and a soldering iron.       

780
00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:44,415
           So we thought,           
    well, that doesn't bode well    

781
00:34:44,415 --> 00:34:46,542
 for the beautiful new console.    

782
00:34:46,542 --> 00:34:47,668
     We're kind of just getting,    

783
00:34:47,668 --> 00:34:49,462
              you know,             
      acclimated to the place.      

784
00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:53,257
 And as this woman was leaving,    
      she kind of scolded Bill      

785
00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:55,343
       about putting his drink      
           on the console.          

786
00:34:55,343 --> 00:34:57,220
         And so immediately         
            it was like,            

787
00:34:57,220 --> 00:35:00,223
      "Mm. This is a weird way      
             to start."             

788
00:35:00,223 --> 00:35:03,392
 -I do have a very vague memory    

789
00:35:03,392 --> 00:35:06,437
      of asking whoever it was      

790
00:35:06,437 --> 00:35:08,272
     that was on the other side     
           of the console           

791
00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:10,900
      to remove their beverage      
          from the console          

792
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,653
     because it's inappropriate,    
      and everybody knows that.     

793
00:35:13,653 --> 00:35:15,613
      -I think we spent the day     
              in there              

794
00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:16,739
       kind of messing around,      

795
00:35:16,739 --> 00:35:20,201
     and more things didn't work    
              than did.             

796
00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:22,203
           -Daniel Lanois           
          built the studio.         

797
00:35:22,203 --> 00:35:24,122
          I swear he threw          
         half of it together        

798
00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:25,623
 before we got there, you know?    

799
00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:27,834
   -They think the studio sucks.    
         Nothing's working.         

800
00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:29,585
         The gear won't work        
        if you're mad at it.        

801
00:35:29,585 --> 00:35:33,047
       -We're trying to work,       
     and it's Sheryl's got this,    

802
00:35:33,047 --> 00:35:34,632
        "Yeah, but" attitude.       

803
00:35:34,632 --> 00:35:37,885
    -We broke and went to dinner    
   and once again had some wine.    

804
00:35:37,885 --> 00:35:40,930
        And the next morning        
      I woke up with a headache     

805
00:35:40,930 --> 00:35:41,764
          and no producer.          

806
00:35:41,764 --> 00:35:44,767
             -I'm like,             
       "I don't belong here."       

807
00:35:44,767 --> 00:35:46,894
        And I got on a plane        
           and came home.           

808
00:35:46,894 --> 00:35:52,358
     -I was there and had booked    
    the studio and was panicked.    

809
00:35:52,358 --> 00:35:53,568
          I called Scooter.         

810
00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:55,528
   -Sheryl said, "Bill has left.    
             He's done.             

811
00:35:55,528 --> 00:35:57,655
     He's not -- he's not gonna     
        work on the record."        

812
00:35:57,655 --> 00:36:00,324
     It was a frightening moment    
              for her.              

813
00:36:00,324 --> 00:36:01,659
            And he said,            
      "Why don't you call Jeff      

814
00:36:01,659 --> 00:36:04,328
     and see if he's interested     
          in coming down."          

815
00:36:04,328 --> 00:36:05,580
   The guitar player Jeff Trott,    

816
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:07,331
           I didn't really          
           know very well.          

817
00:36:07,331 --> 00:36:11,085
       He played a little like      
            an '80s take            

818
00:36:11,085 --> 00:36:13,546
         on Keith Richards,         
            if you will.            

819
00:36:14,672 --> 00:36:19,010
 -I get this call, like, really    
     super early in the morning,    

820
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:20,595
          and it's Sheryl.          

821
00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:22,180
       She's like, "Well, hey,      

822
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,391
           what are you --          
        what are you up to?"        

823
00:36:25,391 --> 00:36:28,603
    And I said, "Well, you know,    
           exciting news.           

824
00:36:28,603 --> 00:36:32,648
        I'm going on the road       
       with The Wallflowers."       

825
00:36:32,648 --> 00:36:35,193
            And there was           
          complete silence.         

826
00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:36,944
       And then she comes back      
               with...              

827
00:36:36,944 --> 00:36:39,447
       -I don't think there's       
 probably a chance in the world    

828
00:36:39,447 --> 00:36:40,615
       you will consider this,      

829
00:36:40,615 --> 00:36:43,618
         but would you come         
           to New Orleans           

830
00:36:43,618 --> 00:36:44,911
          and help me make          
          my second record?         

831
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:47,330
   -So she sort of put it to me,    
              you know,             

832
00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:48,873
       "Well, would you prefer      

833
00:36:48,873 --> 00:36:51,500
         playing cover songs        
          with your friends         

834
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:56,214
      or maybe recording songs      
   that you have written with me    

835
00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:58,257
           for my record?"          

836
00:36:58,257 --> 00:37:00,885
         So check this out.         

837
00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:02,345
            -Oh, my gosh.           

838
00:37:02,345 --> 00:37:04,555
      Look at your cute little      
            shag haircut.           

839
00:37:04,555 --> 00:37:05,640
             -The shag.             

840
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,099
          -Why did you have         
          a trombone there?         

841
00:37:07,099 --> 00:37:09,518
          -I have no idea,          

842
00:37:09,518 --> 00:37:12,063
         -"Brian the cloud."        
             -The cloud.            

843
00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:13,272
             -[ Laughs ]            

844
00:37:13,272 --> 00:37:15,608
      We called Brian MacLeod,      
        our favorite drummer.       

845
00:37:15,608 --> 00:37:19,695
       First thing we did was       
          we named Kingsway         

846
00:37:19,695 --> 00:37:21,197
      "Dan's Lamps and Things"      

847
00:37:21,197 --> 00:37:22,740
      because there was, like,      
            all kinds of            

848
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:24,325
 beautiful antiques everywhere,    

849
00:37:24,325 --> 00:37:27,328
           gorgeous lamps           
   and big wooden baronial beds.    

850
00:37:27,328 --> 00:37:30,623
     And, you know, it was just     
      the most romantic place.      

851
00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:33,542
          Our engineer was          
          Trina Shoemaker.          

852
00:37:33,542 --> 00:37:37,004
           She wasn't just          
          good for a girl.          

853
00:37:37,004 --> 00:37:39,298
         She was just good.         

854
00:37:39,298 --> 00:37:44,971
 -For me, I have a unusual love    
          of the equipment,         

855
00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:46,222
          almost indecent.          

856
00:37:46,222 --> 00:37:50,142
   It's the constant in my life.    
   I go to the gear for comfort.    

857
00:37:50,142 --> 00:37:54,605
     It replaced, in many cases,    
       personal relationships.      

858
00:37:54,605 --> 00:37:56,482
    -She's a brilliant engineer.    

859
00:37:56,482 --> 00:38:00,653
     She also emotionally bonded    
            with Sheryl.            

860
00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:04,865
 She was a strong female artist    
          in her own right,         

861
00:38:04,865 --> 00:38:08,286
          and they kind of          
      powered through together.     

862
00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,413
         -That's what Trina         
         looked like to me.         

863
00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:12,540
               -Yeah.               
      -And she'd be looking up.     

864
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:16,752
   -What was it for us two young    
    women trying to duke it out?    

865
00:38:16,752 --> 00:38:19,588
         And I think, well,         
     of course she kept me near     

866
00:38:19,588 --> 00:38:21,716
       because I was like her.      
            I was alone.            

867
00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:25,469
        No husband, no kids,        
          no family nearby.         

868
00:38:25,469 --> 00:38:26,971
       Bold, willing to fight,      

869
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,598
          literally willing         
       to, like, punch people.      

870
00:38:29,598 --> 00:38:30,975
      I wanted to protect her,      

871
00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:34,145
      and I think that helped a     
   little bit from time to time.    

872
00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:36,480
     And she liked me for that.     

873
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,819
                                  

874
00:38:41,819 --> 00:38:45,781
      -Kingsway just felt like      
            a safe place.           

875
00:38:45,781 --> 00:38:47,033
       I could close the door,      

876
00:38:47,033 --> 00:38:49,243
       and there really wasn't      
         anything left over         

877
00:38:49,243 --> 00:38:50,745
        from the first album,       

878
00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:52,580
       the pressure of people       
       thinking, "Okay, well,       

879
00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:54,957
      let's see what she does,      
     because from what we hear,     

880
00:38:54,957 --> 00:38:57,293
         a whole set of guys        
          wrote the record          

881
00:38:57,293 --> 00:38:58,627
     and she was barely there."     

882
00:38:58,627 --> 00:39:01,464
   I'd stop reading any reviews,    
         anything like that.        

883
00:39:01,464 --> 00:39:04,091
        I had just quietened        
             everything.            

884
00:39:04,091 --> 00:39:05,009
              Change              

885
00:39:05,009 --> 00:39:07,345
             - A change            
         would do you good         

886
00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:08,554
       - Would do you good        

887
00:39:08,554 --> 00:39:11,474
             - A change            
         would do you good         

888
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:12,725
        - I think a change        

889
00:39:12,725 --> 00:39:14,810
             - A change            
         would do you good         

890
00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:16,020
       - Would do you good        

891
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:19,648
             - A change            
         would do you good         

892
00:39:19,648 --> 00:39:23,486
   -That record was magnificent,    
        everything about it.        

893
00:39:23,486 --> 00:39:25,488
     It then raised her to say,     

894
00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:29,533
        "You are a producer,        
       you are a record maker.      

895
00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:31,369
      You are a decision maker.     
          You're a writer.          

896
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:32,578
          You're a player."         

897
00:39:32,578 --> 00:39:33,871
     I was just so happy for her    

898
00:39:33,871 --> 00:39:35,956
       'cause all I just kept       
     thinking is, "You did it."     

899
00:39:35,956 --> 00:39:37,750
          -Sheryl set out,          
          wrote the songs,          

900
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:41,462
        produced the record,        
        created the next step       

901
00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:45,299
        of her musical vision       
       completely on her own.       

902
00:39:45,299 --> 00:39:46,509
           -  A change            

903
00:39:46,509 --> 00:39:48,761
             - A change            
         would do you good         

904
00:39:48,761 --> 00:39:50,054
         Would do you good        

905
00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:52,348
             - A change            
         would do you good         

906
00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:53,641
          -Sheryl! Sheryl!          
            - A change            

907
00:39:53,641 --> 00:39:55,184
         -Give us some play!        
      -Sheryl, turn your head.      

908
00:39:55,184 --> 00:39:57,728
       - Would do you good        
          - Do you good           

909
00:39:57,728 --> 00:40:01,148
             - A change            
         would do you good         

910
00:40:02,691 --> 00:40:04,610
          -You can point to         
           a lot of women           

911
00:40:04,610 --> 00:40:06,612
   who've had commercial success    

912
00:40:06,612 --> 00:40:10,658
          in the pop world          
     as a singer, as an artist.     

913
00:40:10,658 --> 00:40:12,535
     But, you know, there's not     
         a lot of producers,        

914
00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:13,702
       not a lot of engineers.      

915
00:40:13,702 --> 00:40:14,912
      I mean, if she was a man,     

916
00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:16,831
          people would talk         
       about her like Prince.       

917
00:40:16,831 --> 00:40:17,957
      I mean, Prince loved her.     

918
00:40:17,957 --> 00:40:21,502
            - Every day            
         is a winding road         

919
00:40:21,502 --> 00:40:24,672
            - Road, mm            

920
00:40:24,672 --> 00:40:26,799
 - I get a little bit closer     

921
00:40:26,799 --> 00:40:28,342
             - Ah, ah             

922
00:40:28,342 --> 00:40:32,388
 - Every day is a faded sign     

923
00:40:32,388 --> 00:40:33,556
              - Yeah              

924
00:40:33,556 --> 00:40:35,391
         Sheryl Crow, y'all.        

925
00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:37,101
       - I get a little...        

926
00:40:37,768 --> 00:40:39,854
             -Take five.            

927
00:40:41,564 --> 00:40:44,900
      -Hi, everybody in Kennett     
 and everywhere around Kennett,    

928
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:46,610
       whoever's seeing this.       

929
00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:47,945
        Scout and I just want       
          to wish you guys          

930
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:50,739
         a Happy Christmas,         
           Happy New Year.          

931
00:40:50,739 --> 00:40:53,367
          And we'll see you         
        around the holidays.        

932
00:40:53,367 --> 00:40:54,452
      -There are so many things     

933
00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,162
      that have happened to us      
            in our lives            

934
00:40:56,162 --> 00:41:00,416
       since Sheryl has become      
            so well-known           

935
00:41:00,416 --> 00:41:02,376
       that it's kind of hard       
             to separate            

936
00:41:02,376 --> 00:41:03,669
      the real and the unreal,      

937
00:41:03,669 --> 00:41:05,796
   and it's just flabbergasting.    

938
00:41:05,796 --> 00:41:07,006
       I mean, you're -- whew!      

939
00:41:07,006 --> 00:41:08,507
      -Hey, thanks for bringing     
          your mom and dad.         

940
00:41:08,507 --> 00:41:09,758
           I love meeting           
          people's parents.         

941
00:41:09,758 --> 00:41:10,968
      -My mom and dad are here!     
        -There's mom and dad.       

942
00:41:10,968 --> 00:41:12,303
    There they are, right there.    

943
00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:15,598
       [ Cheers and applause ]      

944
00:41:15,598 --> 00:41:19,101
       [ Piano scale playing ]      

945
00:41:19,101 --> 00:41:21,645
      -I taught piano lessons,      
         and I had students         

946
00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:23,147
         come into the house        
            all the time.           

947
00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:26,734
        -We had three pianos        
     and an organ in that house,    

948
00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:29,528
       and they would practice      
        and she'd be cooking,       

949
00:41:29,528 --> 00:41:31,405
      and she would scream out      
           to one of them,          

950
00:41:31,405 --> 00:41:33,449
          "That's not a B!          
          That's a B-flat!"         

951
00:41:33,449 --> 00:41:35,159
    or something of that nature.    

952
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,036
             -[ Laughs ]            

953
00:41:39,663 --> 00:41:41,081
   -I was always getting bested,    
              you know?             

954
00:41:41,081 --> 00:41:44,668
        "That's James Taylor.       
      That is not your lesson."     

955
00:41:44,668 --> 00:41:50,341
                                  

956
00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:51,675
     They were into swing band.     

957
00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:52,885
              In fact,              
       they had a swing band.       

958
00:41:52,885 --> 00:41:54,261
        They would come home        
           on the weekends          

959
00:41:54,261 --> 00:41:55,221
      and bring their friends.      

960
00:41:55,221 --> 00:41:59,517
           -We had a book,          
      I believe, of 400 songs.      

961
00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:01,644
          -This is Sheryl.          

962
00:42:01,644 --> 00:42:04,772
         And this is Sheryl.        

963
00:42:04,772 --> 00:42:05,898
               Sheryl.              

964
00:42:05,898 --> 00:42:07,775
       Now, you can tell who's      
      getting the lion's share      

965
00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:09,527
     of the pictures right now.     

966
00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:10,778
             Here we go.            

967
00:42:10,778 --> 00:42:13,447
      Karen, Sheryl, and Kathy.     

968
00:42:13,447 --> 00:42:17,243
       And our youngest child       
              is Steve.             

969
00:42:17,243 --> 00:42:20,746
     -I remember all three of us    
    girls sleeping on the stairs    

970
00:42:20,746 --> 00:42:22,873
        so we could hear them       
            playing music           

971
00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:24,792
             and dancing            
      and smoking and drinking,     

972
00:42:24,792 --> 00:42:27,336
      and we just wanted to be,     
       you know, a part of it.      

973
00:42:27,336 --> 00:42:29,004
         -That must have had        
       a big influence on you,      

974
00:42:29,004 --> 00:42:30,756
 all those things that, like --    
         -Yeah, definitely.         

975
00:42:30,756 --> 00:42:33,092
     In fact, they started me on    
    piano about the age of five,    

976
00:42:33,092 --> 00:42:35,010
      and they were the kind of     
         parents that said,         

977
00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:37,888
     "Oh, play that little thing    
      for all of our friends."      

978
00:42:37,888 --> 00:42:39,890
      So that's how I wound up      
            where it am.            

979
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:41,809
             -It worked.            
         It worked, you see.        

980
00:42:41,809 --> 00:42:45,062
           [ Stevie Nicks'          
     "Gold Dust Woman" playing ]    

981
00:42:45,062 --> 00:42:46,855
      - Back on gold dust...      

982
00:42:46,855 --> 00:42:49,024
 -And so I dug more into music.    

983
00:42:49,024 --> 00:42:50,109
        - Take yourself...        

984
00:42:50,109 --> 00:42:52,069
         -I started getting         
            into records            

985
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:57,032
       that started to give me      
     a vision of me as a person,    

986
00:42:57,032 --> 00:42:59,368
            and that was            
       the James Taylor stuff       

987
00:42:59,368 --> 00:43:00,828
        and the Carole King,        

988
00:43:00,828 --> 00:43:03,831
            Stevie Wonder           
         and Fleetwood Mac.         

989
00:43:03,831 --> 00:43:05,249
     I wanted to be in the room     
         with those people,         

990
00:43:05,249 --> 00:43:07,209
          and that was what         
        was interesting to me       

991
00:43:07,209 --> 00:43:09,878
     was why things would sound     
      the way they would sound.     

992
00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:11,880
           And it was then          
    that I started to feel like,    

993
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,090
      okay, these are my people     

994
00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:16,969
       and I'm supposed to be       
           on that train.           

995
00:43:19,888 --> 00:43:21,974
       "Love is a Good Thing"       
       was a song that I wrote      

996
00:43:21,974 --> 00:43:25,144
         that was, you know,        
      taken from the headlines.     

997
00:43:32,192 --> 00:43:35,613
     -Now, Walmart says it won't    
       sell her newest album,       

998
00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:38,198
      and fans like Lane Benson     
           don't like it.           

999
00:43:38,198 --> 00:43:39,992
      -I really don't like it.      
             I don't --             

1000
00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:41,910
        I don't like Walmart        
       telling me what to do.       

1001
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:44,163
         -It is the nation's        
          largest retailer.         

1002
00:43:44,163 --> 00:43:46,206
   One record industry executive    
              estimates             

1003
00:43:46,206 --> 00:43:50,252
         Crow stands to lose        
   at least 400,000 album sales.    

1004
00:43:50,252 --> 00:43:52,921
    -Well, they'll probably have    
      to go out of town for it.     

1005
00:43:52,921 --> 00:43:55,257
               Mm-hmm.              
 -What do you think about that?    

1006
00:43:55,257 --> 00:43:56,967
          -Well, I hate for         
           our people here          

1007
00:43:56,967 --> 00:43:58,093
 to be inconvenienced that way,    

1008
00:43:58,093 --> 00:43:59,928
           but I feel sure          
           they'll get it.          

1009
00:43:59,928 --> 00:44:02,848
        -For somebody like me       
    who grew up in a small town,    

1010
00:44:02,848 --> 00:44:04,391
        that's the only place       
        you can buy a record.       

1011
00:44:04,391 --> 00:44:07,353
 And so to be given the choice,    
       "We will not carry it,       

1012
00:44:07,353 --> 00:44:10,731
   or you can change it to Kmart    
       and we'll carry it" --       

1013
00:44:10,731 --> 00:44:14,902
 that, I think, actually fueled    
      my conviction even more.      

1014
00:44:14,902 --> 00:44:16,654
             I was like,            
        "Well, wait a minute.       

1015
00:44:16,654 --> 00:44:17,821
   You can't have it both ways."    

1016
00:44:17,821 --> 00:44:19,448
             -We are not            
         telling Sheryl Crow        

1017
00:44:19,448 --> 00:44:20,616
      she cannot sell the song      

1018
00:44:20,616 --> 00:44:22,284
        and make it available       
             to others.             

1019
00:44:22,284 --> 00:44:24,662
          We're just saying         
         that Walmart itself        

1020
00:44:24,662 --> 00:44:26,038
     will not sell the product."    

1021
00:44:26,038 --> 00:44:27,790
   -May have to come all the way    
     to Memphis to get that CD.     

1022
00:44:27,790 --> 00:44:29,750
       -All they wanted to do       
       was just have some fun.      

1023
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,669
       -It was the first time       
         I ever experienced         

1024
00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:33,712
         anything like that         
            and realized,           

1025
00:44:33,712 --> 00:44:35,881
       Oh, there is importance      
              to music.             

1026
00:44:35,881 --> 00:44:38,676
         There's importance         
       to speaking the truth.       

1027
00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:41,136
       And some people are not      
          gonna like that.          

1028
00:44:41,136 --> 00:44:44,556
        And that's something        
   you just have to get used to.    

1029
00:44:46,225 --> 00:44:47,976
     -At any chance that we feel    

1030
00:44:47,976 --> 00:44:51,146
        we can use our music        
            to give back,           

1031
00:44:51,146 --> 00:44:53,232
           we are not only          
           happy to do it,          

1032
00:44:53,232 --> 00:44:55,734
      we actually almost hunger     
              to do it              

1033
00:44:55,734 --> 00:44:58,153
        so that you can feel        
           that your music          

1034
00:44:58,153 --> 00:45:00,906
             is not just            
        for your own pleasure       

1035
00:45:00,906 --> 00:45:04,868
 and hopefully that your words,    
             your songs,            

1036
00:45:04,868 --> 00:45:07,204
       will also touch a chord      
             into people            

1037
00:45:07,204 --> 00:45:11,041
      to increase their empathy     
         and their humanity.        

1038
00:45:11,041 --> 00:45:13,293
        The Lilith Fair tour        
       was really eye-opening       

1039
00:45:13,293 --> 00:45:16,171
       for so many of us women      
       out there making music       

1040
00:45:16,171 --> 00:45:19,133
      'cause I think we'd been      
    out there in our tour busses    

1041
00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:21,719
      with our bands traveling      
          around, you know,         

1042
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,929
           like, in space,          
           in outer space,          

1043
00:45:23,929 --> 00:45:25,472
             in our own             
        little rocket ships.        

1044
00:45:25,472 --> 00:45:28,058
     And all of a sudden we all     
      landed in this one place      

1045
00:45:28,058 --> 00:45:29,309
     and we came off our busses     

1046
00:45:29,309 --> 00:45:32,146
        and we were actually        
        finally able to meet,       

1047
00:45:32,146 --> 00:45:37,151
     and you realized that there    
     was a sisterhood out there.    

1048
00:45:39,153 --> 00:45:42,156
     -By 1996, there were quite     
         a few more females         

1049
00:45:42,156 --> 00:45:43,741
          that were getting         
          played at radio.          

1050
00:45:43,741 --> 00:45:45,909
           One of them was          
         Alanis Morissette,         

1051
00:45:45,909 --> 00:45:48,454
     Aimee Mann, and another was    
          Sarah McLachlan.          

1052
00:45:48,454 --> 00:45:54,877
         - I'd no longer be        
           in your mind            

1053
00:45:54,877 --> 00:45:59,798
         The difficult kind        
         but you won't see         

1054
00:45:59,798 --> 00:46:02,176
         -I remember vividly        
           Sarah McLachlan          

1055
00:46:02,176 --> 00:46:03,469
       calling me and saying,       

1056
00:46:03,469 --> 00:46:06,054
    "Have you ever tried to have    
       someone open up for you      

1057
00:46:06,054 --> 00:46:07,431
           that's a woman?          
      The promoters are saying      

1058
00:46:07,431 --> 00:46:09,391
         you can't have more        
      than one woman on a bill,     

1059
00:46:09,391 --> 00:46:12,269
            and I'm going           
         to disprove them."         

1060
00:46:12,269 --> 00:46:14,938
      -Now, some business types     
 said, "Oh, that'll never work.    

1061
00:46:14,938 --> 00:46:18,192
       Nobody will buy tickets      
 to all women all summer long."    

1062
00:46:18,192 --> 00:46:20,277
         Well, 20,000 people        
          showed up today,          

1063
00:46:20,277 --> 00:46:24,490
         and the Lilith Fair        
        will visit 35 cities.       

1064
00:46:25,532 --> 00:46:28,452
         -It was just women         
      who commercially do well.     

1065
00:46:28,452 --> 00:46:31,455
       We run our businesses.       
           We make money.           

1066
00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:34,958
     So why are you men deciding    
       what can and can't be?       

1067
00:46:34,958 --> 00:46:39,046
 But what you don't think about    
     is the kid that's out there    

1068
00:46:39,046 --> 00:46:42,549
           in the audience          
     looking at that and going,     

1069
00:46:42,549 --> 00:46:43,675
           "I can do that.          

1070
00:46:43,675 --> 00:46:45,511
    I can get up and play guitar    

1071
00:46:45,511 --> 00:46:49,348
      and have a band behind me     
          and be the boss."         

1072
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:51,975
           -Tell you what.          

1073
00:46:51,975 --> 00:46:55,229
     I was out there all the way    
        up there on that hill       

1074
00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:57,898
      in Lilith Fair when I saw     
        Sheryl Crow play here       

1075
00:46:57,898 --> 00:47:00,025
        two nights in a row.        

1076
00:47:00,025 --> 00:47:01,527
    It honestly changed my life,    

1077
00:47:01,527 --> 00:47:05,364
   and I would not be the artist    
   that I am without Sheryl Crow    

1078
00:47:05,364 --> 00:47:07,324
          and the influence         
        that she's had on me.       

1079
00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:09,159
     And then to get to a place     
       where she's kind enough      

1080
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:10,911
           to be my friend          
         and give me advice         

1081
00:47:10,911 --> 00:47:12,913
         and teach me things        
         and sing with me --        

1082
00:47:12,913 --> 00:47:14,915
          I can't even get          
         my head around it.         

1083
00:47:16,166 --> 00:47:20,879
        -I just was astounded       
 that she was so rock and roll.    

1084
00:47:20,879 --> 00:47:22,130
      And you never questioned      

1085
00:47:22,130 --> 00:47:24,216
           whether or not           
        Sheryl was the boss,        

1086
00:47:24,216 --> 00:47:26,176
   and I was so drawn to that --    

1087
00:47:26,176 --> 00:47:30,138
     you know, as a young woman,    
        so influenced by it.        

1088
00:47:30,138 --> 00:47:32,599
      Seeing her play the bass,     
    you know, I'll never forget,    

1089
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:34,393
          like, picking up          
     that bass guitar and, like,    

1090
00:47:34,393 --> 00:47:36,061
           telling the guy          
        I was in a band with,       

1091
00:47:36,061 --> 00:47:40,899
      "Yeah, I played bass" --      
         [ Imitating bass ]         

1092
00:47:41,984 --> 00:47:43,819
       Because I had to learn       
       the "Leaving Las Vegas"      

1093
00:47:43,819 --> 00:47:45,112
             bass line,             

1094
00:47:45,112 --> 00:47:46,446
      and just thinking, like,      

1095
00:47:46,446 --> 00:47:48,323
         "Yeah, this is it,         
     this is what I want to do,     

1096
00:47:48,323 --> 00:47:49,533
       I want to front a band       
              like this             

1097
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:51,368
         and I want to have         
         an electric guitar         

1098
00:47:51,368 --> 00:47:53,912
       and I want to play bass      
    and I want to be a rock star    

1099
00:47:53,912 --> 00:47:56,415
         like Sheryl Crow."         

1100
00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:58,208
         -I think we should         
         give it up to Sarah        

1101
00:47:58,208 --> 00:48:00,544
          for putting this          
        whole thing together.       

1102
00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:04,423
      Anywhere where people are     
 comfortable with who they are,    

1103
00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:06,842
      even on the Lilith Fair,      
         you could look out         

1104
00:48:06,842 --> 00:48:08,468
          and you would see         
         families out there,        

1105
00:48:08,468 --> 00:48:11,513
       and you would see girls      
           and their moms,          

1106
00:48:11,513 --> 00:48:14,892
          and you would see         
         a lot of lesbians.         

1107
00:48:14,892 --> 00:48:17,477
                                  

1108
00:48:17,477 --> 00:48:20,772
      -I like that about Sheryl     
              so much,              

1109
00:48:20,772 --> 00:48:22,524
      that she holds her space.     

1110
00:48:22,524 --> 00:48:24,651
     She's straight as an arrow,    
              but God,              

1111
00:48:24,651 --> 00:48:25,527
      the lesbians love Sheryl.     

1112
00:48:25,527 --> 00:48:27,154
           She's important          
          to queer people,          

1113
00:48:27,154 --> 00:48:28,572
      and when you're important     
          to queer people,          

1114
00:48:28,572 --> 00:48:32,075
 it means you're on the cutting    
        edge of the real shit       

1115
00:48:32,075 --> 00:48:35,370
     of what's really going on.     

1116
00:48:35,370 --> 00:48:38,206
     -After that tour, which had    
       been really successful       

1117
00:48:38,206 --> 00:48:40,167
           and really fun,          
         I came home to L.A.        

1118
00:48:40,167 --> 00:48:42,586
          and I was engaged         
      with a casting director,      

1119
00:48:42,586 --> 00:48:47,090
          somebody I met on         
 the "Leaving Las Vegas" video.    

1120
00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:50,385
       -This is the young man       
     that Sheryl was engaged to.    

1121
00:48:50,385 --> 00:48:52,346
      -That was back in, uh...      

1122
00:48:52,346 --> 00:48:53,972
         -That was in 1995.         

1123
00:48:53,972 --> 00:48:55,265
        [ Ringtone playing ]        

1124
00:48:55,265 --> 00:48:58,185
    Can you maybe turn that off?    

1125
00:48:58,185 --> 00:49:00,270
        -I was just starting        
             my career,             

1126
00:49:00,270 --> 00:49:01,563
         and it was starting        
            to take off,            

1127
00:49:01,563 --> 00:49:05,400
      and it's really difficult     
      for someone to sort of be     

1128
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,321
     swept up in that and still     
      keep their sense of self.     

1129
00:49:09,321 --> 00:49:11,323
         We were just better        
        as friends; in fact,        

1130
00:49:11,323 --> 00:49:13,700
     by the time we got engaged,    
       I feel like we probably      

1131
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:15,035
         were pulling apart.        

1132
00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:16,662
     I'd been gone for so long.     

1133
00:49:16,662 --> 00:49:19,456
    I did have a couple of songs    
     on the "Sheryl Crow" record    

1134
00:49:19,456 --> 00:49:22,292
         that were inspired         
         by our relationship        

1135
00:49:22,292 --> 00:49:23,794
       becoming more platonic.      

1136
00:49:23,794 --> 00:49:28,840
        I woke this morning,       
         now I understand          

1137
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,638
        What it means to give      
     your life to just one man     

1138
00:49:34,638 --> 00:49:39,559
     Afraid of feeling nothing,    
      no bees or butterflies       

1139
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:45,482
  My head is full of questions    
 and my house is full of lies     

1140
00:49:45,482 --> 00:49:51,989
         And this is home         

1141
00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:56,702
               Home               

1142
00:49:56,702 --> 00:49:59,496
           This is home           

1143
00:49:59,496 --> 00:50:02,916
       I think part of my pull      
           is always that           

1144
00:50:02,916 --> 00:50:04,668
        I really like the...        
              the hang,             

1145
00:50:04,668 --> 00:50:07,129
       I like the camaraderie       
           with the guys,           

1146
00:50:07,129 --> 00:50:08,255
       and part of me is like,      

1147
00:50:08,255 --> 00:50:10,132
            I don't want            
        to miss out on that.        

1148
00:50:10,132 --> 00:50:12,259
    So I decided I would just...    

1149
00:50:12,259 --> 00:50:15,387
    pick up and move to New York    
       and change my scenery.       

1150
00:50:15,387 --> 00:50:19,224
        And you can probably        
         see a pattern here.        

1151
00:50:19,224 --> 00:50:23,020
     [ Drumming, guitar tuning ]    

1152
00:50:26,189 --> 00:50:29,735
                                  

1153
00:50:29,735 --> 00:50:32,612
          [ Tuning guitar ]         

1154
00:50:33,780 --> 00:50:38,952
            Somebody said          
        you gotta get away         

1155
00:50:38,952 --> 00:50:42,622
                                  

1156
00:50:42,622 --> 00:50:47,169
             Don't wanna           
        go back home again         

1157
00:50:47,169 --> 00:50:48,545
                                  

1158
00:50:48,545 --> 00:50:50,714
          I set up a studio         
    in the Meatpacking District.    

1159
00:50:50,714 --> 00:50:54,593
         I mean, it was just        
   a very colorful neighborhood.    

1160
00:50:54,593 --> 00:50:57,345
         -It was warehouses         
            and butchers            

1161
00:50:57,345 --> 00:50:59,264
       and carcasses hanging.       

1162
00:50:59,264 --> 00:51:01,391
      You could smell the blood     
           on the streets.          

1163
00:51:01,391 --> 00:51:04,227
         -Jeff and I started        
         working with Trina         

1164
00:51:04,227 --> 00:51:05,479
     in a studio that we set up     

1165
00:51:05,479 --> 00:51:08,273
          in this building          
          called The Globe.         

1166
00:51:08,273 --> 00:51:10,400
           -She had bought          
         all this equipment.        

1167
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,569
         It hadn't seasoned         
         into the room yet.         

1168
00:51:12,569 --> 00:51:15,280
       It takes a little while      
     for gear to get comfortable    

1169
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,698
     and bugs to get worked out,    

1170
00:51:16,698 --> 00:51:20,702
      yet we were going forward     
     and cutting a record there.    

1171
00:51:20,702 --> 00:51:33,340
                                  

1172
00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:36,551
        Antigone laid across       
             the road              

1173
00:51:36,551 --> 00:51:39,387
         -Now the celebrity         
            is locked in,           

1174
00:51:39,387 --> 00:51:41,807
 I mean, the celebrity machine,    
        not the human being,        

1175
00:51:41,807 --> 00:51:44,684
         so now she's really        
           got to deliver.          

1176
00:51:44,684 --> 00:51:52,567
    It's laughter that comes up    
        when I cry for you         

1177
00:51:52,567 --> 00:52:00,408
       And this heart may love     
      again before it learns       

1178
00:52:00,408 --> 00:52:03,120
          "Globe Sessions,"         
         of all the records,        

1179
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,579
     was the most kind of pure,     

1180
00:52:04,579 --> 00:52:06,873
     I don't want to say, like,     
            barfing out,            

1181
00:52:06,873 --> 00:52:10,001
     but I mean, everything was     
      so close to the surface,      

1182
00:52:10,001 --> 00:52:11,628
            so immediate.           

1183
00:52:11,628 --> 00:52:15,465
         I've gotten used to       
          crash and burn           

1184
00:52:15,465 --> 00:52:18,677
                                  

1185
00:52:18,677 --> 00:52:25,142
      Yes, I've gotten used to     
        the crash and burn         

1186
00:52:25,142 --> 00:52:26,643
       A lot of that came out,      

1187
00:52:26,643 --> 00:52:28,145
            particularly            
         in "Difficult Kind"        

1188
00:52:28,145 --> 00:52:29,563
          and definitely in         
         "Crash and Burn" --        

1189
00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:31,356
    I mean, both of those songs,    
          which I feel like         

1190
00:52:31,356 --> 00:52:32,691
      are kind of sister songs,     

1191
00:52:32,691 --> 00:52:35,152
         talk about somebody        
         who's not that easy        

1192
00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:36,528
    to have a relationship with,    

1193
00:52:36,528 --> 00:52:40,657
       who is highly sensitive      
        and highly emotional        

1194
00:52:40,657 --> 00:52:42,534
     and super tough and strong;    

1195
00:52:42,534 --> 00:52:44,828
        and the other aspect        
        of being with someone       

1196
00:52:44,828 --> 00:52:50,792
 who has the job that I have is    
 I'm just not around very much.    

1197
00:52:50,792 --> 00:52:53,712
                                  

1198
00:52:53,712 --> 00:52:58,216
    -There is a price to be paid    
    for being gone all the time.    

1199
00:52:58,216 --> 00:53:00,510
       Obviously, I felt like       
           it was worth it          

1200
00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:03,513
     because I'm still out here,    
           but, you know,           

1201
00:53:03,513 --> 00:53:05,974
           it is difficult          
       to stay away from home       

1202
00:53:05,974 --> 00:53:07,350
     so many times and so long.     

1203
00:53:07,350 --> 00:53:09,186
    -All I can say is I'm single    

1204
00:53:09,186 --> 00:53:11,271
        and I've been single        
            a long time,            

1205
00:53:11,271 --> 00:53:14,608
       and that has got to be,      
              you know,             

1206
00:53:14,608 --> 00:53:17,777
           the tour bus --          
 my relationship with the road,    

1207
00:53:17,777 --> 00:53:19,237
              you know,             
       it -- it is difficult,       

1208
00:53:19,237 --> 00:53:20,739
       it's a lot to ask for,       

1209
00:53:20,739 --> 00:53:25,327
      you know, to ask somebody     
       to stay home and wait.       

1210
00:53:25,327 --> 00:53:26,870
       -We were both at this,       

1211
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:29,581
      like, massive transition      
            in our lives,           

1212
00:53:29,581 --> 00:53:30,916
      figuring out who we were,     

1213
00:53:30,916 --> 00:53:33,543
       what we wanted in life,      
         and Sheryl's like,         

1214
00:53:33,543 --> 00:53:35,837
             "Oh, well,             
      you should just move in!"     

1215
00:53:35,837 --> 00:53:38,381
        Like, "Why -- why are       
     we spending so little time     

1216
00:53:38,381 --> 00:53:42,010
     together by going to dinner    
        four nights a week?"        

1217
00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:45,347
       So I lived with Sheryl.      

1218
00:53:45,347 --> 00:53:46,806
       She might be the friend      

1219
00:53:46,806 --> 00:53:51,269
   that I've spent the most time    
         watching her work.         

1220
00:53:51,269 --> 00:53:53,271
   We went on the ride together.    

1221
00:53:53,271 --> 00:53:56,233
              - Ooh               

1222
00:53:56,233 --> 00:53:57,901
 -And the best rock album is...    

1223
00:53:57,901 --> 00:54:01,238
        "The Globe Sessions,"       
            Sheryl Crow.            

1224
00:54:01,238 --> 00:54:03,990
              - Ooh               

1225
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:06,576
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1226
00:54:06,576 --> 00:54:10,413
                Ooh               

1227
00:54:10,413 --> 00:54:14,751
      Did you know when you go     
      it's the perfect ending      

1228
00:54:14,751 --> 00:54:19,673
     To the bad day I've gotten    
         used to spending          

1229
00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:21,800
    When you go all I know is     

1230
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,263
  You're my favorite mistake     

1231
00:54:26,263 --> 00:54:30,267
         You're my favorite        
              mistake              

1232
00:54:30,267 --> 00:54:32,769
                                  

1233
00:54:32,769 --> 00:54:34,938
   -A person is not a celebrity,    
        a person is a person,       

1234
00:54:34,938 --> 00:54:40,402
 celebrity' a machine that gets    
     hungry and it has to feed.     

1235
00:54:40,402 --> 00:54:41,611
         -Sorry, let me get         
            [indistinct].           

1236
00:54:41,611 --> 00:54:44,489
           -Yes! Oh, wow.           

1237
00:54:44,489 --> 00:54:47,325
 -Yeah, you're going to get hit    
 up quite a bit on the way out.    

1238
00:54:47,325 --> 00:54:49,119
            -Here you go.           
          -Thanks so much.          

1239
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:50,203
          -Who's this for?          

1240
00:54:50,203 --> 00:54:51,871
        -It's, uh, for Julie.       

1241
00:54:51,871 --> 00:54:55,375
          -I was born into          
           this industry,           

1242
00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:59,087
         and you would think        
       I'd seen so much of it.      

1243
00:54:59,087 --> 00:55:02,757
 But being an iconic rock star?    

1244
00:55:02,757 --> 00:55:04,551
      It's a whole other thing.     

1245
00:55:04,551 --> 00:55:09,389
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1246
00:55:09,389 --> 00:55:11,516
        -Fame is not natural,       

1247
00:55:11,516 --> 00:55:14,769
        and it is also a very       
        energetic experience        

1248
00:55:14,769 --> 00:55:20,150
     where people are projecting    
        their energy at you.        

1249
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:22,277
                                  

1250
00:55:22,277 --> 00:55:23,778
       -There's hero worship,       

1251
00:55:23,778 --> 00:55:26,614
      and there's, you know...      

1252
00:55:26,614 --> 00:55:27,824
             idolizing.             

1253
00:55:27,824 --> 00:55:31,453
           But, you know,           
       also projecting trauma       

1254
00:55:31,453 --> 00:55:33,747
       and all kinds of stuff.      

1255
00:55:33,747 --> 00:55:36,082
     -Her music is so powerful.     

1256
00:55:36,082 --> 00:55:37,792
        It just touches you.        

1257
00:55:37,792 --> 00:55:40,253
 It helped me get through a lot    
        of things in my life:       

1258
00:55:40,253 --> 00:55:42,339
             coming out,            
         getting off drugs.         

1259
00:55:42,339 --> 00:55:45,592
          You know, it's --         
        it's just incredible.       

1260
00:55:45,592 --> 00:55:48,219
         -Imagine every time        
     you step out of your house,    

1261
00:55:48,219 --> 00:55:50,138
         people stop to look        
              at you --             

1262
00:55:50,138 --> 00:55:51,514
             every time.            

1263
00:55:51,514 --> 00:55:54,684
       And people smile at you      
   and they want to be with you,    

1264
00:55:54,684 --> 00:55:56,686
          and they tell you         
        how great you are --        

1265
00:55:56,686 --> 00:55:57,854
             every time!            

1266
00:55:57,854 --> 00:56:00,106
      It does something to you,     
          messes with you!          

1267
00:56:00,106 --> 00:56:02,692
       -And then you're going       
      to have this thing where,     

1268
00:56:02,692 --> 00:56:03,860
     okay, you're in magazines,     

1269
00:56:03,860 --> 00:56:05,487
         and you're invited         
         to perform on that,        

1270
00:56:05,487 --> 00:56:06,863
 and you're nominated for that,    

1271
00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:08,990
         and then you're not        
         nominated anymore,         

1272
00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:10,742
         and then you're not        
            in magazines,           

1273
00:56:10,742 --> 00:56:12,369
   and you're not at that party.    

1274
00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:13,787
            And who am I?           

1275
00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:17,665
      And, well, what do I need     
     to do to get back to that?     

1276
00:56:17,665 --> 00:56:19,209
                                  

1277
00:56:19,209 --> 00:56:24,089
    -A lot of non-musical things    
       come along with success      

1278
00:56:24,089 --> 00:56:27,759
        that you didn't know        
      was part of the package.      

1279
00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:32,514
 And it knocks you off what you    
 were doing in the first place.    

1280
00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:36,559
        And it can take years       
      to navigate through that.     

1281
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:39,521
           And some people          
      never get it figured out.     

1282
00:56:39,521 --> 00:56:41,523
        They crash and burn.        

1283
00:56:41,523 --> 00:56:46,778
                                  

1284
00:56:46,778 --> 00:56:48,655
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1285
00:56:48,655 --> 00:56:50,407
         -It's not natural,         

1286
00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:52,450
         and it doesn't have        
           anything to do           

1287
00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:54,077
   with being good or being bad,    

1288
00:56:54,077 --> 00:56:57,664
   and it doesn't anything to do    
 with the quality of your work.    

1289
00:56:57,664 --> 00:57:02,168
 I-it's just a giant mind-fuck.    

1290
00:57:02,168 --> 00:57:04,921
           Steve McQueen          

1291
00:57:04,921 --> 00:57:08,049
             Underneath            
         your radar screen         

1292
00:57:08,049 --> 00:57:12,762
        You'll never catch me      
               today               

1293
00:57:12,762 --> 00:57:14,264
                No                

1294
00:57:14,264 --> 00:57:17,058
     But I think people come to     
   see you for a lot of reasons.    

1295
00:57:17,058 --> 00:57:19,144
          They want to feel         
        some kind of emotion.       

1296
00:57:19,144 --> 00:57:21,229
         They want to forget        
        about what's going on       

1297
00:57:21,229 --> 00:57:22,605
       in their immediate life      

1298
00:57:22,605 --> 00:57:23,898
     for just a couple of hours,    

1299
00:57:23,898 --> 00:57:26,818
      and there's a gift and a      
 responsibility in that for me.    

1300
00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:29,612
    -With Sheryl, there's always    
          two sides to it.          

1301
00:57:29,612 --> 00:57:34,576
 The struggle to make something    
       great and the pressure       

1302
00:57:34,576 --> 00:57:35,910
      and her own perfectionism     

1303
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:39,956
      or strive for that thing      
   she wants is always in there.    

1304
00:57:39,956 --> 00:57:41,458
     -This is what I want to do.    

1305
00:57:41,458 --> 00:57:42,834
         Okay, this is what         
            I want to do.           

1306
00:57:42,834 --> 00:57:45,295
          I want to cancel          
          a week of shows.          

1307
00:57:45,295 --> 00:57:46,754
   Okay, you got to hear me out.    

1308
00:57:46,754 --> 00:57:48,047
      We're in a situation here     

1309
00:57:48,047 --> 00:57:50,049
      where I don't want to do      
         any more bad shows.        

1310
00:57:50,049 --> 00:57:52,051
       We need to get another       
      lighting system in here.      

1311
00:57:52,051 --> 00:57:55,054
         On stage the screen        
         is overpowering us.        

1312
00:57:55,054 --> 00:57:57,098
           I'm out front.           
        It looks ridiculous.        

1313
00:57:57,098 --> 00:58:00,226
         I don't want to do         
    any more half-assed touring.    

1314
00:58:00,226 --> 00:58:01,186
        I worked my ass off,        

1315
00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:03,104
        and the band is great       
      and I have a great crew.      

1316
00:58:03,104 --> 00:58:05,940
 The only thing holding us back    
         is the production.         

1317
00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:07,817
       And I want it to stop.       

1318
00:58:07,817 --> 00:58:11,696
       Crazy hollow frequency       
            [indistinct].           

1319
00:58:11,696 --> 00:58:14,532
           I'm getting --           
            [ Whistles ]            

1320
00:58:14,532 --> 00:58:15,909
         -Music for Sheryl,         

1321
00:58:15,909 --> 00:58:18,953
         I'm not always sure        
        that she enjoyed it.        

1322
00:58:18,953 --> 00:58:22,040
     I think that she had, like,    
        a possession with it        

1323
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,125
           that dominated           
          her entire life,          

1324
00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:26,794
          put the celebrity         
          on her shoulders,         

1325
00:58:26,794 --> 00:58:29,422
       and nearly crushed her.      

1326
00:58:29,422 --> 00:58:34,385
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1327
00:58:34,385 --> 00:58:41,976
              [ Crow ]              

1328
00:58:41,976 --> 00:58:45,730
     -I-I -- I'm not -- I'm not     
        discounting the stuff       

1329
00:58:45,730 --> 00:58:48,191
       that made it all happen      
            and all that.           

1330
00:58:48,191 --> 00:58:50,026
         But you're killing         
           yourself here.           

1331
00:58:50,026 --> 00:58:53,446
     I -- you're right about why    
 it fucked you up and all that.    

1332
00:58:53,446 --> 00:58:58,701
              [ Crow ]              

1333
00:58:58,701 --> 00:58:59,911
          -But you work --          
              -[ Crow ]             

1334
00:58:59,911 --> 00:59:02,705
            -I know that.           

1335
00:59:02,705 --> 00:59:05,333
      But -- but draw the line,     
         is what I'm saying.        

1336
00:59:05,333 --> 00:59:07,919
   It was fucked up; the lights,    
       it fucked your head up       

1337
00:59:07,919 --> 00:59:10,463
            and all that,           
 but you were pretty brilliant.    

1338
00:59:10,463 --> 00:59:25,019
                                  

1339
00:59:25,019 --> 00:59:28,064
       Around the turn of the       
    century, Interscope Records,    

1340
00:59:28,064 --> 00:59:30,817
   which was run by Jimmy Iovine    
          and Tom Whalley,          

1341
00:59:30,817 --> 00:59:32,527
       took over A&M Records.       

1342
00:59:32,527 --> 00:59:34,279
         They absorbed them.        

1343
00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:35,738
           -At Interscope,          

1344
00:59:35,738 --> 00:59:39,576
     I was working with Dr. Dre,    
      Snoop Dogg; we had Tupac,     

1345
00:59:39,576 --> 00:59:43,663
          we had No Doubt;          
         also 4 Non Blondes,        

1346
00:59:43,663 --> 00:59:45,540
         Primus and Helmet.         

1347
00:59:45,540 --> 00:59:46,791
        -I suddenly went from       

1348
00:59:46,791 --> 00:59:48,793
        having a relationship       
         with a record label        

1349
00:59:48,793 --> 00:59:51,504
           to being one of          
         a bunch of artists,        

1350
00:59:51,504 --> 00:59:52,672
      and I have a new record.      

1351
00:59:52,672 --> 00:59:54,215
       -The trick is not just       
        having a hit record,        

1352
00:59:54,215 --> 00:59:58,803
       the trick is not having      
      a really credible record;     

1353
00:59:58,803 --> 01:00:00,054
         the trick is both.         

1354
01:00:00,054 --> 01:00:02,765
     -As I look back and I think    
        about making records        

1355
01:00:02,765 --> 01:00:04,058
    where you go in empty-handed    

1356
01:00:04,058 --> 01:00:07,186
            and you write           
        and record as you go,       

1357
01:00:07,186 --> 01:00:09,689
           it was really,           
          really successful         

1358
01:00:09,689 --> 01:00:12,233
        for the first, like,        
           three records,           

1359
01:00:12,233 --> 01:00:15,320
     and then the wear and tear     
       of coming off the road,      

1360
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,449
 being tired, not really having    
     had many life experiences,     

1361
01:00:19,449 --> 01:00:21,409
 and then going into the studio    
       and just sitting there       

1362
01:00:21,409 --> 01:00:23,911
     and going, "Okay, what am I    
       going to write about?"       

1363
01:00:23,911 --> 01:00:25,997
        The boat ran aground.       

1364
01:00:25,997 --> 01:00:29,125
   And then it was just a source    
       of glaring frustration.      

1365
01:00:29,125 --> 01:00:34,255
      -One summer, we wrote 40      
          or 50 song ideas,         

1366
01:00:34,255 --> 01:00:36,132
          and she was just          
         having a really --         

1367
01:00:36,132 --> 01:00:37,884
     a rough patch of, you know,    

1368
01:00:37,884 --> 01:00:40,887
     "Hey, I don't have anything    
          important to say,         

1369
01:00:40,887 --> 01:00:42,430
     I don't know what to say."     

1370
01:00:42,430 --> 01:00:43,598
       -Tonight you go where?       

1371
01:00:43,598 --> 01:00:45,183
             You open up            
        for a young new guy?        

1372
01:00:45,183 --> 01:00:48,102
     -I open up for a beginning     
      up-and-comer, Bob Dylan.      

1373
01:00:48,102 --> 01:00:50,938
             -Bob Dylan.            
         -Bob Dylan offered         

1374
01:00:50,938 --> 01:00:53,191
     his friendship, just said,     
      "You know, I think you're     

1375
01:00:53,191 --> 01:00:54,817
         going to be around         
          for a long time,          

1376
01:00:54,817 --> 01:00:57,528
     if you ever need anything,     
          give me a shout."         

1377
01:00:57,528 --> 01:00:58,780
      So I call him and I say,      

1378
01:00:58,780 --> 01:01:03,993
     "I'm really having trouble     
         finishing anything.        

1379
01:01:03,993 --> 01:01:06,037
           I-I can't seem           
      to finish a song, I mean,     

1380
01:01:06,037 --> 01:01:08,122
     I feel like I've been doing    
     this for like eight months     

1381
01:01:08,122 --> 01:01:09,290
    and not finishing anything,"    

1382
01:01:09,290 --> 01:01:11,000
           and he's like,           
         "Ooh, that's bad."         

1383
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,127
     And I'm thinking, Oh, gosh.    
          And then I said,          

1384
01:01:13,127 --> 01:01:15,296
     "Well, I heard that you had    
         had writer's block.        

1385
01:01:15,296 --> 01:01:17,882
       So I wanted to call you      
       and pick your brains."       

1386
01:01:17,882 --> 01:01:21,511
         "No, I never have,"        
      and I'm thinking, Oh, no!     

1387
01:01:21,511 --> 01:01:23,012
    -You have a certain instinct    

1388
01:01:23,012 --> 01:01:24,889
        and a certain amount        
             of training            

1389
01:01:24,889 --> 01:01:27,183
         and a certain type         
        of impact of the song       

1390
01:01:27,183 --> 01:01:29,811
         you're looking for;        
     you have to hope the person    

1391
01:01:29,811 --> 01:01:31,396
       you're standing next to      
             writes it.             

1392
01:01:31,396 --> 01:01:33,606
        -He came in and out,        
 which I really wasn't used to.    

1393
01:01:33,606 --> 01:01:34,899
          I wasn't used to          
           having anybody           

1394
01:01:34,899 --> 01:01:36,025
          coming in and out         
            of the studio           

1395
01:01:36,025 --> 01:01:38,111
        while I was producing       
            and working.            

1396
01:01:38,111 --> 01:01:41,072
 -I lived in a recording studio    
           my whole life,           

1397
01:01:41,072 --> 01:01:42,949
          so I can go down          
           to the studio,           

1398
01:01:42,949 --> 01:01:44,283
      and that was an advantage     
             that I had             

1399
01:01:44,283 --> 01:01:47,370
        because I understand        
      the language really well.     

1400
01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:49,580
        -He had suggestions,        
        some of which I used        

1401
01:01:49,580 --> 01:01:51,332
     and some of which I didn't.    

1402
01:01:51,332 --> 01:01:54,419
                                  

1403
01:01:54,419 --> 01:01:57,338
      -Sheryl I was in New York     
            and she said,           

1404
01:01:57,338 --> 01:01:59,924
       "Well, like, you know,       
    can you just jump on a plane    

1405
01:01:59,924 --> 01:02:02,260
     and come out here and let's    
    just -- let's just do this."    

1406
01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:08,141
   And I was playing around with    
        this idea of being...       

1407
01:02:08,141 --> 01:02:10,184
           uh, soaking wet          

1408
01:02:10,184 --> 01:02:13,187
           and wanting --           
       wanting sun, you know,       

1409
01:02:13,187 --> 01:02:15,648
           "hey, I'm going          
          to go to New York         

1410
01:02:15,648 --> 01:02:16,899
       and soak up some sun."       

1411
01:02:16,899 --> 01:02:18,943
   I thought, "'Soak up the sun'    
        sounds like a good."        

1412
01:02:18,943 --> 01:02:23,614
     - Wanna tell them that I     

1413
01:02:23,614 --> 01:02:27,160
        Got no one to blame       

1414
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,746
      Every time I feel lame      

1415
01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:34,041
          I'm looking up          

1416
01:02:34,041 --> 01:02:38,296
        -So I had five hours        
     from Portland to New York.     

1417
01:02:38,296 --> 01:02:41,174
        I carried the chorus        
             in my head             

1418
01:02:41,174 --> 01:02:44,010
         for the duration --        
        for that five hours.        

1419
01:02:44,010 --> 01:02:45,428
        Go to Sheryl's house,       

1420
01:02:45,428 --> 01:02:48,055
 I said, "Well, I have an idea.    
 I don't know if it's really...    

1421
01:02:48,055 --> 01:02:49,474
        It might be too poppy       
              for you."             

1422
01:02:49,474 --> 01:02:52,185
 She's like, "Okay, well, yeah,    
          let's write it."          

1423
01:02:52,185 --> 01:02:58,524
 - I'm gonna soak up the sun     

1424
01:02:58,524 --> 01:03:06,657
       I'm gonna tell everyone     
           to lighten up           

1425
01:03:06,657 --> 01:03:07,992
     Jimmy would sit at the desk    

1426
01:03:07,992 --> 01:03:11,245
    and he'd keep his BlackBerry    
           under the desk           

1427
01:03:11,245 --> 01:03:13,623
       while he was listening,      
        and I just was like,        

1428
01:03:13,623 --> 01:03:16,667
   "Okay, you can't -- you can't    
         really get into it         

1429
01:03:16,667 --> 01:03:19,170
          when you're like,         
          "Mm, what's, uh,          

1430
01:03:19,170 --> 01:03:21,005
      what's going on with Dre,     
         and..." you know?!         

1431
01:03:21,005 --> 01:03:23,800
        So I sit at the door        

1432
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,010
          and I texted him          
         from my BlackBerry,        

1433
01:03:26,010 --> 01:03:29,180
      and said, "Would you put      
       that damn thing down!"       

1434
01:03:29,180 --> 01:03:32,600
       And he -- he looked up       
         and he was like...         

1435
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,937
        -I'm sure we had some       
      up-downs, some down days.     

1436
01:03:35,937 --> 01:03:37,146
         The bottom line is,        

1437
01:03:37,146 --> 01:03:39,065
    all you have left in the end    
           is the record,           

1438
01:03:39,065 --> 01:03:40,316
     and that's a great record.     

1439
01:03:40,316 --> 01:03:46,280
        - So I can rock on        

1440
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,950
    -A record would be finished,    
        and we'd hand it in,        

1441
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:50,076
        and Jimmy would say,        

1442
01:03:50,076 --> 01:03:51,911
            "It's great,            
        I need another one."        

1443
01:03:51,911 --> 01:03:54,288
       -I'm the kind of person      
           that just says,          

1444
01:03:54,288 --> 01:03:57,959
       "Let's keep going till       
     it's right and don't stop."    

1445
01:03:57,959 --> 01:04:00,086
          When I was making         
           "C'mon, C'mon,"          

1446
01:04:00,086 --> 01:04:03,881
            I was having            
      real bouts of depression,     

1447
01:04:03,881 --> 01:04:05,967
         just real low lows,        
               and I..              

1448
01:04:05,967 --> 01:04:07,385
      I didn't really know why.     

1449
01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:09,136
       -Are you going to stop       
        touring anytime soon        

1450
01:04:09,136 --> 01:04:10,638
       and just kind of relax?      

1451
01:04:10,638 --> 01:04:11,889
            -When I die.            
                -No?                

1452
01:04:11,889 --> 01:04:14,475
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1453
01:04:14,475 --> 01:04:15,685
              [ Tick ]              

1454
01:04:15,685 --> 01:04:18,062
            [ Applause ]            

1455
01:04:18,062 --> 01:04:19,897
          [ Slow ticking ]          

1456
01:04:19,897 --> 01:04:22,191
       [ Bus engine rumbling,       
         ticking continues ]        

1457
01:04:22,191 --> 01:04:26,320
           [ Tick, tick ]           

1458
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,656
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1459
01:04:28,656 --> 01:04:32,535
      [ Slow ticking continues,     
        jet engine igniting ]       

1460
01:04:32,535 --> 01:04:36,122
          [ Slow ticking ]          

1461
01:04:36,122 --> 01:04:38,165
         [ Guitar playing ]         

1462
01:04:38,165 --> 01:04:40,167
               I...               

1463
01:04:40,167 --> 01:04:41,752
              [ Tick ]              

1464
01:04:41,752 --> 01:04:43,796
     Gonna soak up the sun --     

1465
01:04:43,796 --> 01:04:45,464
              [ Tick ]              

1466
01:04:45,464 --> 01:04:49,135
          [ Guitar playing,         
           slow ticking ]           

1467
01:04:49,135 --> 01:04:51,846
       -I'm not getting weird,      
     I just want one autograph.     

1468
01:04:51,846 --> 01:04:52,972
              [ Tick ]              

1469
01:04:52,972 --> 01:04:59,103
         - I wanna soak up         
              the sun              

1470
01:04:59,103 --> 01:05:03,357
         Got my 45 on so I        

1471
01:05:03,357 --> 01:05:07,862
           I can rock on          

1472
01:05:07,862 --> 01:05:11,032
      [ Cheering and applause,      
           slow ticking ]           

1473
01:05:11,032 --> 01:05:13,326
   [ Whoosh, feedback from amp ]    

1474
01:05:13,326 --> 01:05:16,954
        [ Feedback continues,       
          stops abruptly ]          

1475
01:05:17,413 --> 01:05:20,249
       -This record is filled       
          with big choruses         

1476
01:05:20,249 --> 01:05:23,502
     and hit-oriented rock songs    
        like "Steve McQueen,"       

1477
01:05:23,502 --> 01:05:25,463
      and "You're an Original,"     
       and "Soak Up the Sun,"       

1478
01:05:25,463 --> 01:05:28,341
            and there is            
       this little short piece      

1479
01:05:28,341 --> 01:05:29,592
      called "Weather Channel."     

1480
01:05:29,592 --> 01:05:32,803
     It's sort of a focal point     
        of the record for me.       

1481
01:05:32,803 --> 01:05:35,181
   -I remember my dad tellin' me    
       about Winston Churchill      

1482
01:05:35,181 --> 01:05:36,641
     and how he really suffered     

1483
01:05:36,641 --> 01:05:39,435
           from really bad          
         bouts of depression        

1484
01:05:39,435 --> 01:05:42,229
        and how he called it        
          "the black dog."          

1485
01:05:42,229 --> 01:05:45,066
        And this is the song        
    that I don't really remember    

1486
01:05:45,066 --> 01:05:47,109
           recording or...          
             or writing,            

1487
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:50,237
          but the black dog         
        makes his appearance,       

1488
01:05:50,237 --> 01:05:54,033
           so I'm assuming          
   I was in a pretty dark state.    

1489
01:05:54,033 --> 01:05:56,911
         [ Playing guitar ]         

1490
01:05:56,911 --> 01:06:03,167
                                  

1491
01:06:03,167 --> 01:06:06,587
        I had a gig in Boston       
         and got to Boston,         

1492
01:06:06,587 --> 01:06:09,298
      and I called my manager,      
     and I said, "I can't move,     

1493
01:06:09,298 --> 01:06:11,592
       I can't leave the room,      
           I just can't."           

1494
01:06:11,592 --> 01:06:15,346
         I just couldn't --         
     I couldn't find my way out.    

1495
01:06:17,390 --> 01:06:20,309
           Sunny mornin'          

1496
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:24,146
          You can hear it         

1497
01:06:24,146 --> 01:06:27,316
          Sirens warning          

1498
01:06:27,316 --> 01:06:31,112
        There is weather on       

1499
01:06:31,112 --> 01:06:35,324
            Both sides            

1500
01:06:35,324 --> 01:06:38,035
         I hear it coming         

1501
01:06:38,035 --> 01:06:39,453
   I remember saying to Scooter,    

1502
01:06:39,453 --> 01:06:43,040
         "I feel like I need        
          to go somewhere,          

1503
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,376
    but I can't face the press."    

1504
01:06:45,376 --> 01:06:50,423
   He said, "Stay where you are,    
       I'm coming to get you."      

1505
01:06:50,423 --> 01:06:54,010
         Just like before         

1506
01:06:54,010 --> 01:06:57,179
     There's a black dog that     

1507
01:06:57,179 --> 01:07:00,433
         Scratches my door        

1508
01:07:00,433 --> 01:07:05,104
  He's been growling my name     

1509
01:07:05,104 --> 01:07:07,481
              Sayin'              

1510
01:07:07,481 --> 01:07:11,318
    You better get to running     

1511
01:07:11,318 --> 01:07:13,362
                                  

1512
01:07:13,362 --> 01:07:16,115
      -She called me and said,      
         "I can't do this."         

1513
01:07:16,115 --> 01:07:19,201
      She was really depressed;     
        it was overwhelming.        

1514
01:07:19,201 --> 01:07:21,120
                                  

1515
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,123
     I think the highs and lows     
         of being an artist         

1516
01:07:24,123 --> 01:07:28,419
         that's been riding         
        this level of success       

1517
01:07:28,419 --> 01:07:32,423
             for a while            
         can be very, um...         

1518
01:07:32,423 --> 01:07:35,384
            suffocating.            

1519
01:07:35,384 --> 01:07:38,220
        - Can you make it         

1520
01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:41,515
          Better for me?          

1521
01:07:41,515 --> 01:07:47,188
          Can you maybe see        
         the light of day?         

1522
01:07:47,188 --> 01:07:51,734
        'Cause I got no one       

1523
01:07:51,734 --> 01:07:58,240
          Who will bring me        
          a big umbrella           

1524
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:05,664
         While I'm watching        
      The Weather Channel and      

1525
01:08:05,664 --> 01:08:09,168
    I'm waiting for the storm     

1526
01:08:09,168 --> 01:08:10,503
                                  

1527
01:08:10,503 --> 01:08:13,089
       I can remember talking       
       to Scooter on the phone      

1528
01:08:13,089 --> 01:08:15,549
             and saying,            
        "If I had the energy        

1529
01:08:15,549 --> 01:08:18,803
              to get up             
       and run across my loft       

1530
01:08:18,803 --> 01:08:20,554
        and throw myself out        
        the window, I would,        

1531
01:08:20,554 --> 01:08:21,680
         but I don't even --        

1532
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,557
            I don't know            
    that I even care that much."    

1533
01:08:23,557 --> 01:08:27,019
        You know, stuff that        
     didn't feel characteristic     

1534
01:08:27,019 --> 01:08:28,604
       of my outlook on life.       

1535
01:08:28,604 --> 01:08:32,024
        That was when it got        
         kind of worrisome.         

1536
01:08:32,024 --> 01:08:35,194
    But I don't feel so human     

1537
01:08:35,194 --> 01:08:37,029
      -Levon Helm used to say,      

1538
01:08:37,029 --> 01:08:39,281
          "Girl, I'll guard         
           your gun side."          

1539
01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:42,076
         That's what I have         
           in my manager.           

1540
01:08:42,076 --> 01:08:45,412
        He completely guarded       
            my gun side.            

1541
01:08:45,412 --> 01:08:48,290
         However he did it,         
   I could walk into Mount Sinai    

1542
01:08:48,290 --> 01:08:50,793
         with an appointment        
            with someone            

1543
01:08:50,793 --> 01:08:54,255
         and get it together        
          over a period of,         

1544
01:08:54,255 --> 01:08:56,590
   you know, quite a few months.    

1545
01:08:56,590 --> 01:08:59,218
        -The handful of times       
   I've gotten those phone calls    

1546
01:08:59,218 --> 01:09:01,095
          when she's having         
            a rough time,           

1547
01:09:01,095 --> 01:09:03,264
           it caused a lot          
          of anxiety in me.         

1548
01:09:03,264 --> 01:09:07,393
     But I know my position here    
      is to help her through it     

1549
01:09:07,393 --> 01:09:09,603
          and to be kind of         
            foundational.           

1550
01:09:09,603 --> 01:09:12,815
         It's more than just        
     a business with her and I,     

1551
01:09:12,815 --> 01:09:15,776
         way more, so I try         
       to make her understand       

1552
01:09:15,776 --> 01:09:21,031
        she's heard and safe        
          and it will pass.         

1553
01:09:21,031 --> 01:09:24,702
       - You won't want me        

1554
01:09:24,702 --> 01:09:30,916
           Standing around         
         the birthday pony         

1555
01:09:30,916 --> 01:09:32,626
                                  

1556
01:09:32,626 --> 01:09:36,714
             Even though           
         it's just a game          

1557
01:09:36,714 --> 01:09:39,884
     You know we are the same     

1558
01:09:39,884 --> 01:09:45,055
             But you're            
         the better faker          

1559
01:09:47,099 --> 01:09:51,103
      Just a little happy song      
              about...              

1560
01:09:51,103 --> 01:09:52,479
        suicidal tendencies.        

1561
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,982
            [ Strumming ]           

1562
01:09:54,982 --> 01:09:58,944
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1563
01:09:58,944 --> 01:09:59,862
      -I first heard the song,      

1564
01:09:59,862 --> 01:10:01,822
       "Are you strong enough       
           to be my man,"           

1565
01:10:01,822 --> 01:10:04,366
 I didn't hear it on the radio,    
        I saw it on a video.        

1566
01:10:04,366 --> 01:10:06,368
           Sheryl came on           
       and she sings this song      

1567
01:10:06,368 --> 01:10:08,829
           and I thought,           
    for women like Sheryl and I,    

1568
01:10:08,829 --> 01:10:11,665
        who have this extreme       
           kind of career,          

1569
01:10:11,665 --> 01:10:14,585
         every time we meet         
           a new nice man,          

1570
01:10:14,585 --> 01:10:16,795
        it crosses our mind:        
        Are you strong enough       

1571
01:10:16,795 --> 01:10:22,468
      to possibly deal with our     
     incredibly odd life, right?    

1572
01:10:22,468 --> 01:10:23,427
              -So true.             

1573
01:10:23,427 --> 01:10:24,637
               -And so              
      from that moment onward,      

1574
01:10:24,637 --> 01:10:25,971
        I thought, you know,        
        this is a great song        

1575
01:10:25,971 --> 01:10:30,601
      for any women that have,      
       like, extreme careers.       

1576
01:10:30,601 --> 01:10:33,020
    -Yeah -- and I couldn't have    
          said that better.         

1577
01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:36,357
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1578
01:10:36,357 --> 01:10:39,235
                                  

1579
01:10:39,235 --> 01:10:43,906
             God, I feel           
         like hell tonight         

1580
01:10:43,906 --> 01:10:48,452
            Tears of rage          
           I cannot lie            

1581
01:10:48,452 --> 01:10:52,665
       Be the last to help you     
            understand             

1582
01:10:52,665 --> 01:10:58,170
        Are you strong enough      
           to be my man?           

1583
01:10:58,170 --> 01:11:00,589
              My man              

1584
01:11:00,589 --> 01:11:02,633
                                  

1585
01:11:02,633 --> 01:11:04,885
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1586
01:11:04,885 --> 01:11:07,805
        [ Paparazzi shouting        
           indistinctly ]           

1587
01:11:07,805 --> 01:11:11,475
       I was in the middle of       
          being on the road         

1588
01:11:11,475 --> 01:11:14,478
         and making records         
      and decided that this was     

1589
01:11:14,478 --> 01:11:18,315
 a relationship I really wanted    
         to give my time to.        

1590
01:11:18,315 --> 01:11:19,942
         And the first year         
          it was fantastic          

1591
01:11:19,942 --> 01:11:22,278
           and I was ready          
           to get married.          

1592
01:11:22,278 --> 01:11:24,530
     I was ready to have a life!    

1593
01:11:24,530 --> 01:11:26,407
      It does get complicated,      
               though,              

1594
01:11:26,407 --> 01:11:29,118
            when you have           
          to dim your light         

1595
01:11:29,118 --> 01:11:30,786
 to be in somebody else's life.    

1596
01:11:30,786 --> 01:11:35,374
           Nothing's true          
        and nothing's right        

1597
01:11:35,374 --> 01:11:40,045
  So let me be alone tonight     

1598
01:11:40,045 --> 01:11:43,882
         -You know, you have        
      a super sensitive artist      

1599
01:11:43,882 --> 01:11:48,762
          and a super alpha         
          powerful athlete.         

1600
01:11:48,762 --> 01:11:54,101
     Lance's view is, "I'm going    
        to win at all costs,"       

1601
01:11:54,101 --> 01:11:55,144
            which he did.           

1602
01:11:55,144 --> 01:11:56,353
            And Sheryl's            

1603
01:11:56,353 --> 01:11:59,231
            not like that           
          in the same way.          

1604
01:11:59,231 --> 01:12:02,234
         -To put everything         
          in my life aside          

1605
01:12:02,234 --> 01:12:03,319
      in order to nurture that,     

1606
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:05,487
         it wasn't a healthy        
          situation for me.         

1607
01:12:05,487 --> 01:12:07,698
         And then there was         
        what all was going on       

1608
01:12:07,698 --> 01:12:09,366
         in his racing life,        

1609
01:12:09,366 --> 01:12:10,617
      and that was hard for me.     

1610
01:12:10,617 --> 01:12:12,453
             It was hard            
        for everyone around.        

1611
01:12:12,453 --> 01:12:14,455
        -French investigators       
          are still looking         

1612
01:12:14,455 --> 01:12:16,040
    at the team's blood samples.    

1613
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,334
        -A guy who comes back       
           from arguably,           

1614
01:12:18,334 --> 01:12:19,668
     you know, a death sentence.    

1615
01:12:19,668 --> 01:12:22,338
     Why would I then enter into    
     a sport and dope myself up     

1616
01:12:22,338 --> 01:12:23,797
       and risk my life again?      
            That's crazy!           

1617
01:12:23,797 --> 01:12:26,342
       I would never do that!       
            That's -- no.           

1618
01:12:26,342 --> 01:12:27,760
               No way.              

1619
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,846
           - Lie to me            

1620
01:12:30,846 --> 01:12:35,642
      I promise I'll believe      

1621
01:12:35,642 --> 01:12:38,812
          The urine samples         
        were all coming out.        

1622
01:12:38,812 --> 01:12:39,855
         It was a nightmare,        

1623
01:12:39,855 --> 01:12:42,274
             and I think            
      we'd had a giant blow up      

1624
01:12:42,274 --> 01:12:43,567
              and then              
      within a couple of days,      

1625
01:12:43,567 --> 01:12:47,404
       this five- or six-carat      
         diamond showed up.         

1626
01:12:47,404 --> 01:12:50,449
        And you know, sadly,        
        that's what I wanted,       

1627
01:12:50,449 --> 01:12:52,159
        but I didn't want it        
             like that.             

1628
01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:55,371
        You know, I didn't --       
     I didn't want it like that.    

1629
01:12:59,666 --> 01:13:02,169
        We split up and then,       
        "Oh, for God's sakes,       

1630
01:13:02,169 --> 01:13:05,130
     have a mammogram scheduled,    
      last thing I want to do,"     

1631
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:06,465
         but I go and do it,        

1632
01:13:06,465 --> 01:13:09,885
            and they find           
     some suspect calcifications    

1633
01:13:09,885 --> 01:13:11,762
              and say,              
      "Come back in six months      

1634
01:13:11,762 --> 01:13:13,389
    and we'll look at it again."    

1635
01:13:13,389 --> 01:13:16,642
     And my gynecologist called     
              and said,             

1636
01:13:16,642 --> 01:13:19,686
      "You may as well find out     
            what this is            

1637
01:13:19,686 --> 01:13:21,814
     because waiting six months     
       could be the difference      

1638
01:13:21,814 --> 01:13:23,732
      in Stage I or Stage II."      

1639
01:13:23,732 --> 01:13:26,402
            And I went in           
      and had a needle biopsy,      

1640
01:13:26,402 --> 01:13:27,778
           was not really           
        thinking about it --        

1641
01:13:27,778 --> 01:13:31,407
        I was thinking about        
       a lot of other things.       

1642
01:13:31,407 --> 01:13:32,574
   -Well, it was the worst thing    

1643
01:13:32,574 --> 01:13:34,660
        that's ever happened        
           in our family.           

1644
01:13:34,660 --> 01:13:36,829
    Now you talk about something    
            that was just           

1645
01:13:36,829 --> 01:13:38,831
         incredible, unreal.        

1646
01:13:38,831 --> 01:13:40,165
        [ Telephone ringing ]       

1647
01:13:40,165 --> 01:13:43,585
     That was it -- a phone call    
     around dinnertime at night,    

1648
01:13:43,585 --> 01:13:46,588
           that she's been          
       diagnosed with cancer.       

1649
01:13:46,588 --> 01:13:49,341
         And you don't have         
           any idea of...           

1650
01:13:49,341 --> 01:13:51,218
        what the outcome is,        

1651
01:13:51,218 --> 01:13:52,928
      what the degree of it is.     

1652
01:13:52,928 --> 01:13:55,681
 You have this horrible feeling    
        everything's going to       

1653
01:13:55,681 --> 01:13:58,100
         come crashing down.        

1654
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:00,978
                                  

1655
01:14:00,978 --> 01:14:02,938
        -When I was diagnosed       
         with breast cancer,        

1656
01:14:02,938 --> 01:14:05,649
   there was just stuff swirling    
 around everywhere in the news,    

1657
01:14:05,649 --> 01:14:08,819
      and the press, and having     
      been a "likable" artist,      

1658
01:14:08,819 --> 01:14:10,946
     people were rooting for me     
     and then there were also --    

1659
01:14:10,946 --> 01:14:12,823
       there was a lot of fear      
     being projected at me like,    

1660
01:14:12,823 --> 01:14:14,700
   "Oh, my God, if it can happen    
    to her and she's so healthy,    

1661
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:16,952
       it could happen to me,"      
         and people praying,        

1662
01:14:16,952 --> 01:14:18,912
           and then people          
      that didn't like me like,     

1663
01:14:18,912 --> 01:14:21,707
   "Well, that's what she gets,"    
      and even my relationship      

1664
01:14:21,707 --> 01:14:24,626
        with what I felt like       
       was humanity at large,       

1665
01:14:24,626 --> 01:14:28,338
     the craving to see pictures    
        of me at my worst --        

1666
01:14:28,338 --> 01:14:29,965
            I was pissed.           

1667
01:14:29,965 --> 01:14:32,926
          I mean, I get --          
       I feel how pissed I was      

1668
01:14:32,926 --> 01:14:34,720
     when I even talk about it.     

1669
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,890
          I just was like,          
            "What the eff           

1670
01:14:37,890 --> 01:14:39,183
     just happened to my life?"     

1671
01:14:39,183 --> 01:14:41,852
           And I felt like          
        I didn't deserve it.        

1672
01:14:41,852 --> 01:14:45,814
 -You know, we were so involved    
      in it together with her.      

1673
01:14:45,814 --> 01:14:49,526
         It just looked like        
        the end of something.       

1674
01:14:49,526 --> 01:14:51,820
      -I went with her parents      
             and sister             

1675
01:14:51,820 --> 01:14:56,575
      to a couple of the first      
    meetings with the oncologist    

1676
01:14:56,575 --> 01:14:57,826
         and the whole team.        

1677
01:14:57,826 --> 01:14:59,786
       And then I had to go do      
     the business part of it --     

1678
01:14:59,786 --> 01:15:02,915
      cancel the tours and take     
     everything off the calendar    

1679
01:15:02,915 --> 01:15:06,919
       and just start to pray       
            and support.            

1680
01:15:06,919 --> 01:15:08,754
      -When you are diagnosed,      

1681
01:15:08,754 --> 01:15:11,215
           all your dreams          
       and everything is over.      

1682
01:15:11,215 --> 01:15:12,758
            It's the end.           

1683
01:15:12,758 --> 01:15:14,760
 That's what you're faced with.    

1684
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,931
        My wife was diagnosed       
         with breast cancer.        

1685
01:15:18,931 --> 01:15:21,934
       It's beyond traumatic.       

1686
01:15:21,934 --> 01:15:26,230
              It's such             
       a terrifying situation.      

1687
01:15:26,230 --> 01:15:30,108
      -It sort of dictates that     
        everybody figure out        

1688
01:15:30,108 --> 01:15:31,568
           where they are           
          with that person,         

1689
01:15:31,568 --> 01:15:34,613
       like how do I help you,      
         how do I fix this?         

1690
01:15:34,613 --> 01:15:36,448
     And it's just not fixable.     

1691
01:15:36,448 --> 01:15:40,869
              -I always             
      didn't look over there --     

1692
01:15:40,869 --> 01:15:44,540
       at cancer -- because...      

1693
01:15:44,540 --> 01:15:48,502
      it was too much of a big,     
           scary monster.           

1694
01:15:48,502 --> 01:15:49,962
 But what Sheryl taught my wife    

1695
01:15:49,962 --> 01:15:54,591
          was that you have         
          to get educated.          

1696
01:15:54,591 --> 01:15:58,011
     You have to learn about it.    

1697
01:15:58,011 --> 01:15:59,972
 And then you can deal with it.    

1698
01:15:59,972 --> 01:16:02,683
   -I appreciate the opportunity    
     to testify before you today    

1699
01:16:02,683 --> 01:16:04,643
        on the Breast Cancer        
     Environmental Research Act.    

1700
01:16:04,643 --> 01:16:07,187
     As a breast cancer survivor    
            and advocate,           

1701
01:16:07,187 --> 01:16:08,730
        I am very passionate        
            about getting           

1702
01:16:08,730 --> 01:16:10,566
    this bill enacted this year.    

1703
01:16:10,566 --> 01:16:15,112
        -Sheryl gave my wife        
          so much guidance.         

1704
01:16:16,530 --> 01:16:18,031
              Up here.              

1705
01:16:18,031 --> 01:16:19,950
        Sheryl is a survivor.       

1706
01:16:19,950 --> 01:16:21,952
           -I have no idea          
      why I got breast cancer,      

1707
01:16:21,952 --> 01:16:24,329
         but what I do know         
      is we need more resources     

1708
01:16:24,329 --> 01:16:26,498
          into figuring out         
     what the environment has to    

1709
01:16:26,498 --> 01:16:27,624
       do with breast cancer.       

1710
01:16:27,624 --> 01:16:30,002
      -The first thing she did      

1711
01:16:30,002 --> 01:16:33,964
      was let a group of us in,     

1712
01:16:33,964 --> 01:16:37,509
          in a really deep          
          and intimate way.         

1713
01:16:37,509 --> 01:16:38,885
      I've had very few friends     

1714
01:16:38,885 --> 01:16:42,306
          who've let me in          
      when they needed me most.     

1715
01:16:42,306 --> 01:16:43,307
           She really did.          

1716
01:16:43,307 --> 01:16:46,810
             She gave me            
    the opportunity to love her.    

1717
01:16:46,810 --> 01:16:51,273
    -I had this incredible tribe    
         of women around me         

1718
01:16:51,273 --> 01:16:53,609
            that swept in           

1719
01:16:53,609 --> 01:16:56,737
           and carried me           
         on their shoulders.        

1720
01:16:56,737 --> 01:16:58,113
        And when I was done,        

1721
01:16:58,113 --> 01:17:01,658
           they were there          
      to get me back on my feet     

1722
01:17:01,658 --> 01:17:04,870
         and to get me back         
       to who I wanted to be.       

1723
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:07,623
     And I think women do that.     

1724
01:17:07,623 --> 01:17:09,416
                                  

1725
01:17:09,416 --> 01:17:14,504
          What do I do with        
     this sweet love of mine?      

1726
01:17:14,504 --> 01:17:17,132
         Do I give it away        

1727
01:17:17,132 --> 01:17:20,010
          And hope some day        
             I'll find             

1728
01:17:20,010 --> 01:17:22,554
       Someone half as awake      

1729
01:17:22,554 --> 01:17:29,227
    As the moon and the stars     

1730
01:17:29,227 --> 01:17:33,231
     Mother, teach me to love     

1731
01:17:33,231 --> 01:17:38,862
      With a paper-thin heart     

1732
01:17:38,862 --> 01:17:40,989
   When I came out of radiation,    

1733
01:17:40,989 --> 01:17:43,283
      I was sitting with my mom     
     and I was saying, you know,    

1734
01:17:43,283 --> 01:17:47,079
      there -- there are things     
       that I really had hoped      

1735
01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:48,955
      in my life I would have,      

1736
01:17:48,955 --> 01:17:50,666
      and I wanted to be a mom.     

1737
01:17:50,666 --> 01:17:53,669
        I wanted to be a mom        
          like my mom was.          

1738
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:56,046
      -She was lamenting about      
          her life going on         

1739
01:17:56,046 --> 01:17:59,633
    and not ever having a family    
    and not having any children,    

1740
01:17:59,633 --> 01:18:02,177
         and that was one of        
          the worst things          

1741
01:18:02,177 --> 01:18:03,887
        about the predicament       
             she was in.            

1742
01:18:03,887 --> 01:18:05,514
    -I had this story in my head    
    about what that looked like,    

1743
01:18:05,514 --> 01:18:08,725
     you know, that looked like,    
 you fall in love with someone,    

1744
01:18:08,725 --> 01:18:10,894
          you get married,          
     you know, you buy a house,     

1745
01:18:10,894 --> 01:18:12,771
        you save your money,        
         you have children,         

1746
01:18:12,771 --> 01:18:15,357
          blah-blah-blah --         
    like what I was raised with.    

1747
01:18:15,357 --> 01:18:18,860
     -She was miserably unhappy,    
 she's been treated for cancer,    

1748
01:18:18,860 --> 01:18:21,321
   and now she faces that she'll    
      never have any children.      

1749
01:18:21,321 --> 01:18:23,740
           And my instinct          
          immediately was,          

1750
01:18:23,740 --> 01:18:25,742
    that's not necessarily true.    

1751
01:18:25,742 --> 01:18:30,038
        I mean, you can adopt       
         beautiful children.        

1752
01:18:30,038 --> 01:18:31,790
   You can have your own family.    

1753
01:18:31,790 --> 01:18:34,418
    -My mom said, "You could get    
           a sperm donor."          

1754
01:18:34,418 --> 01:18:35,752
         I'm like, "What?!"         

1755
01:18:35,752 --> 01:18:37,879
        -She thought at first       
          I'd lost my mind.         

1756
01:18:37,879 --> 01:18:40,966
      You know, "You're trying      
        to tell me to go out        

1757
01:18:40,966 --> 01:18:44,469
      and find some children?"      

1758
01:18:44,469 --> 01:18:45,470
             Well, yes.             

1759
01:18:45,470 --> 01:18:47,097
         -I remember having         
 a conversation with my brother    

1760
01:18:47,097 --> 01:18:48,974
    when I was adopting my boys,    
               I said,              

1761
01:18:48,974 --> 01:18:50,767
 "You know, it's so interesting    
           because you --           

1762
01:18:50,767 --> 01:18:52,436
           when you adopt,          
        you really don't know       

1763
01:18:52,436 --> 01:18:54,896
   exactly what you're getting,"    
            and he said,            

1764
01:18:54,896 --> 01:18:57,023
      "You know, when you have      
     your own kids biologically,    

1765
01:18:57,023 --> 01:19:00,235
   you really don't know exactly    
   what you're getting, either."    

1766
01:19:00,235 --> 01:19:01,987
             And that --            
       that made sense to me,       

1767
01:19:01,987 --> 01:19:04,030
       that resonated with me,      
        because I feel like,        

1768
01:19:04,030 --> 01:19:06,074
     no matter if you have them     
            biologically            

1769
01:19:06,074 --> 01:19:09,828
        or if you adopt them,       
   you don't get the wrong kids.    

1770
01:19:12,414 --> 01:19:28,764
                                  

1771
01:19:28,764 --> 01:19:30,557
            [ Laughing ]            

1772
01:19:30,557 --> 01:19:51,411
                                  

1773
01:19:51,411 --> 01:19:54,581
        -Hey, Mom, love you.        
            There's Levi.           

1774
01:19:54,581 --> 01:19:55,957
                -Hi!                
             -Here's me.            

1775
01:19:55,957 --> 01:19:57,125
            -We love you!           

1776
01:19:57,125 --> 01:20:02,339
                                  

1777
01:20:02,339 --> 01:20:04,591
    [ Laughter, boys screaming ]    

1778
01:20:04,591 --> 01:20:12,307
                                  

1779
01:20:12,307 --> 01:20:14,643
                -No!                
           [ Dart fires ]           

1780
01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:47,384
                                  

1781
01:20:47,384 --> 01:20:49,636
        [ Indistinct chatter,       
            ball echoes ]           

1782
01:20:49,636 --> 01:20:51,847
            [ Cheering ]            

1783
01:20:51,847 --> 01:20:53,181
                                  

1784
01:20:53,181 --> 01:20:55,183
       [ Fireworks exploding ]      

1785
01:20:55,183 --> 01:21:00,814
                                  

1786
01:21:00,814 --> 01:21:02,649
        [ Air horn honking ]        

1787
01:21:02,649 --> 01:21:06,236
                                  

1788
01:21:06,236 --> 01:21:09,197
       -I think Sheryl wanted       
          to raise her kids         

1789
01:21:09,197 --> 01:21:11,157
          in an environment         
         that was more akin         

1790
01:21:11,157 --> 01:21:13,785
        to where she grew up,       
       but still she could be       

1791
01:21:13,785 --> 01:21:17,038
 in the mix of the music world.    

1792
01:21:17,038 --> 01:21:21,459
          - If I can't be          
           someone else            

1793
01:21:21,459 --> 01:21:25,297
  If I can't be someone else     

1794
01:21:25,297 --> 01:21:30,260
          Oh, if I can't be        
           someone else            

1795
01:21:30,260 --> 01:21:34,890
         I might as well be        
          myself, myself           

1796
01:21:34,890 --> 01:21:37,434
                Ooh               

1797
01:21:37,434 --> 01:21:39,311
        We built a barn where       
       the horses could live,       

1798
01:21:39,311 --> 01:21:43,648
   and I thought, I'm just going    
 to put a writing room up here,    

1799
01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:45,400
          so it needs to be         
     a little bit sound-proofed,    

1800
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,319
     I moved all my vintage gear    
              up here,              

1801
01:21:47,319 --> 01:21:51,114
         hung up my guitars,        
    and I can come to work here.    

1802
01:21:51,114 --> 01:21:54,910
          [ Band playing ]          

1803
01:21:54,910 --> 01:21:57,245
    -It's really pretty amazing,    
              actually.             

1804
01:21:57,245 --> 01:22:00,081
          The studio itself         
          is over a stable          

1805
01:22:00,081 --> 01:22:02,709
    with these fantastic horses,    

1806
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:05,295
      and you would think that      
     the horses would be spooked    

1807
01:22:05,295 --> 01:22:07,339
              by sound,             
         but they're not --         

1808
01:22:07,339 --> 01:22:09,799
       they're just grooving.       

1809
01:22:09,799 --> 01:22:14,638
         [ Crow vocalizing ]        

1810
01:22:14,638 --> 01:22:18,683
          [ Band playing ]          

1811
01:22:18,683 --> 01:22:20,769
        -I love vintage amps,       
         got to be vintage,         

1812
01:22:20,769 --> 01:22:25,774
       got to be a vintage box      
   or vintage tweed; old snares.    

1813
01:22:25,774 --> 01:22:27,233
     Got to have a Black Beauty.    

1814
01:22:27,233 --> 01:22:29,986
         And then of course,        
     I have to have a certain...    

1815
01:22:29,986 --> 01:22:31,988
        amount of just junk.        

1816
01:22:31,988 --> 01:22:33,949
      -Sheryl is a gear freak,      

1817
01:22:33,949 --> 01:22:36,117
       so you're going to work      
             every day,             

1818
01:22:36,117 --> 01:22:37,619
            you're going,           
         "I want that sound,        

1819
01:22:37,619 --> 01:22:39,329
             looking for            
         that guitar sound,"        

1820
01:22:39,329 --> 01:22:42,374
 "Oh, that guitar right there,"    
     pull it off the wall, boom,    

1821
01:22:42,374 --> 01:22:44,751
           it's all set up          
          and ready to go.          

1822
01:22:44,751 --> 01:22:45,877
       So if you have an idea,      

1823
01:22:45,877 --> 01:22:48,254
      you can jump right on it      
              and play.             

1824
01:22:48,254 --> 01:22:50,256
       -I called Steve Jordan       
              and said,             

1825
01:22:50,256 --> 01:22:51,383
     Will you make this record?     

1826
01:22:51,383 --> 01:22:53,093
      I don't know what it is,      

1827
01:22:53,093 --> 01:22:55,470
     but I know I want to bring     
        Kris Kristofferson in       

1828
01:22:55,470 --> 01:22:57,430
        and I want to record        
          with other people         

1829
01:22:57,430 --> 01:23:01,267
     that I've shared music with    
     and I've shared life with.     

1830
01:23:01,267 --> 01:23:03,687
     And so that's what we did.     

1831
01:23:05,105 --> 01:23:09,234
    -"Threads" is the definition    
      of what all those people      

1832
01:23:09,234 --> 01:23:12,278
       mean to her musically.       

1833
01:23:12,278 --> 01:23:15,323
      -I always felt like I was     
      sort of born out of time.     

1834
01:23:15,323 --> 01:23:17,450
     All the artists that I had     
     loved, I missed that boat.     

1835
01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:19,953
      I didn't get to be around     
      with them when they were,     

1836
01:23:19,953 --> 01:23:21,121
     you know, really happening     

1837
01:23:21,121 --> 01:23:22,372
       and when they were all       
            hanging out.            

1838
01:23:22,372 --> 01:23:23,790
    And that made such an impact    

1839
01:23:23,790 --> 01:23:24,958
     on this girl from Missouri     

1840
01:23:24,958 --> 01:23:26,584
        who had these dreams        
           of hanging out           

1841
01:23:26,584 --> 01:23:28,503
          with Stevie Nicks         
          and James Taylor          

1842
01:23:28,503 --> 01:23:30,296
            and, I mean,            
    all these incredible artists    

1843
01:23:30,296 --> 01:23:33,842
        that have inspired me       
          to write stories.         

1844
01:23:33,842 --> 01:23:36,344
   Endless, endless connections.    

1845
01:23:36,344 --> 01:23:43,435
      Who put the blame on me     

1846
01:23:43,435 --> 01:23:48,857
      You oughta pass you see     

1847
01:23:48,857 --> 01:23:52,318
    -What I do love about Sheryl    
        is her love of music,       

1848
01:23:52,318 --> 01:23:54,821
       and I always feel happy      
      around Sheryl, you know?      

1849
01:23:54,821 --> 01:23:58,199
       -She had that producer       
       knowledge of the studio      

1850
01:23:58,199 --> 01:24:02,120
   and we recorded all the ideas    
      and sorted through those      

1851
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,456
      and then we cut a track.      

1852
01:24:04,456 --> 01:24:06,416
      -Sheryl's been able to do     
          all those things          

1853
01:24:06,416 --> 01:24:09,419
      because she's that gifted     
          and that talented         

1854
01:24:09,419 --> 01:24:10,670
       and that hard-working,       

1855
01:24:10,670 --> 01:24:14,466
       and also because she's       
     a cool person to be around.    

1856
01:24:14,466 --> 01:24:17,427
        She's a big influence       
         on me in that way.         

1857
01:24:17,427 --> 01:24:21,431
            [ Song ends ]           

1858
01:24:22,348 --> 01:24:24,017
       -There's a weird thing       
            that happens            

1859
01:24:24,017 --> 01:24:26,061
           when you become          
          a legacy artist,          

1860
01:24:26,061 --> 01:24:28,521
            it's sort of            
       a sideways compliment.       

1861
01:24:28,521 --> 01:24:32,233
      It's like, okay, you have     
       stood the test of time,      

1862
01:24:32,233 --> 01:24:35,653
       but also you're old and      
     you just haven't gone away.    

1863
01:24:35,653 --> 01:24:37,280
        You know what I mean?       
       It's like, I don't know      

1864
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,075
   how to hold the legacy thing.    

1865
01:24:40,075 --> 01:24:42,327
    -You think there's a secret?    

1866
01:24:42,327 --> 01:24:46,331
      No, there is no hidden...     

1867
01:24:46,331 --> 01:24:50,210
         potion or formula.         

1868
01:24:50,210 --> 01:24:51,503
       You just get stuck here      

1869
01:24:51,503 --> 01:24:54,297
      and you're still doing it     
       and you still love it.       

1870
01:24:54,297 --> 01:24:57,550
     And in a way you're filled     
           with amazement           

1871
01:24:57,550 --> 01:24:59,469
       that you are still here      
              doing it.             

1872
01:24:59,469 --> 01:25:02,055
     But there ain't no secrets     
          sticking around.          

1873
01:25:02,055 --> 01:25:03,306
       Just luck of the draw.       

1874
01:25:03,306 --> 01:25:05,600
      -When we got asked to do      
        Bonnaroo, I was like,       

1875
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:11,231
    "That is going to be amazing    
        or absolutely awful."       

1876
01:25:11,231 --> 01:25:13,399
 I think we played at like four    
      or five in the afternoon      

1877
01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:16,319
      and like, literally maybe     
     30 minutes before we played    

1878
01:25:16,319 --> 01:25:18,446
        nobody was out there,       
          and I'm thinking,         

1879
01:25:18,446 --> 01:25:19,989
            "Well, okay,            

1880
01:25:19,989 --> 01:25:24,160
       I'm a legacy artist and      
    I'm too old for this crowd."    

1881
01:25:25,495 --> 01:25:28,248
        And I don't know how,       
       but when we walked out,      

1882
01:25:28,248 --> 01:25:31,918
 the place was just all the way    
      back filled with people.      

1883
01:25:31,918 --> 01:25:35,630
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1884
01:25:38,258 --> 01:25:49,269
                                  

1885
01:25:49,269 --> 01:25:50,353
          It was euphoric!          

1886
01:25:50,353 --> 01:25:52,313
        Because I didn't know       
         if the audience --         

1887
01:25:52,313 --> 01:25:55,400
     and they're super young --     
    had been exposed to my music    

1888
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:56,568
      because of their parents,     

1889
01:25:56,568 --> 01:25:57,944
      but they knew everything.     

1890
01:25:57,944 --> 01:26:05,118
            I been long,           
       a long way from here        

1891
01:26:05,118 --> 01:26:08,288
                                  

1892
01:26:08,288 --> 01:26:12,917
           Put on a poncho         
     and played for mosquitoes     

1893
01:26:12,917 --> 01:26:17,130
              And drank            
     'til I was thirsty again      

1894
01:26:17,130 --> 01:26:19,215
       I was literally looking      
             at my band             

1895
01:26:19,215 --> 01:26:21,050
          who is, you know,         
      for the most part my age,     

1896
01:26:21,050 --> 01:26:22,343
           maybe a couple           
          of years younger          

1897
01:26:22,343 --> 01:26:23,803
         and maybe a couple         
           of years older,          

1898
01:26:23,803 --> 01:26:27,390
 and we're all up there looking    
        at each other going,        

1899
01:26:27,390 --> 01:26:28,725
        "What is happening?"        

1900
01:26:28,725 --> 01:26:31,769
     These young people, who are    
   younger than these songs are,    

1901
01:26:31,769 --> 01:26:33,563
       they're the people that      
       are out in the audience      

1902
01:26:33,563 --> 01:26:37,025
           that are, like,          
        totally going for it        

1903
01:26:37,025 --> 01:26:39,110
     on "If It Makes You Happy."    

1904
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:40,653
          I made this up          

1905
01:26:40,653 --> 01:26:46,075
   There is something liberating    
      about lifting your voice.     

1906
01:26:46,075 --> 01:26:51,206
       If it makes you happy      

1907
01:26:51,206 --> 01:26:55,501
       It can't be that bad       

1908
01:26:55,501 --> 01:27:00,465
 -It has, I think, probably one    
 of the best cut-loose choruses    

1909
01:27:00,465 --> 01:27:02,300
      of any modern rock song.      

1910
01:27:02,300 --> 01:27:04,844
      You know, the whole thing     
       is kept really subdued       

1911
01:27:04,844 --> 01:27:06,804
            and it's cool           
       and it's kind of stoned      

1912
01:27:06,804 --> 01:27:08,306
        and you're describing       
              this day.             

1913
01:27:08,306 --> 01:27:10,016
       But then when she says,      
      "if it makes you happy,"      

1914
01:27:10,016 --> 01:27:12,352
            it's like --            
     - If it makes you happy      

1915
01:27:12,352 --> 01:27:14,395
         -It all comes open.        

1916
01:27:14,395 --> 01:27:16,064
      - Let me hear you sing      

1917
01:27:16,064 --> 01:27:20,485
       It can't be that bad       

1918
01:27:20,485 --> 01:27:21,861
     If it makes you happy...     

1919
01:27:21,861 --> 01:27:25,698
      People feel themselves in     
    that, they feel their power.    

1920
01:27:25,698 --> 01:27:29,911
     And when I get to sing it,     
       I feel that power too.       

1921
01:27:29,911 --> 01:27:32,580
         I feel it in my gut        
          and in my chest.          

1922
01:27:32,580 --> 01:27:35,124
         -When Sheryl shouts        
            on that song,           

1923
01:27:35,124 --> 01:27:37,085
   she does have a whole kind of    

1924
01:27:37,085 --> 01:27:38,336
   "givin' it to the gods" vibe,    

1925
01:27:38,336 --> 01:27:39,837
       and it just cuts loose,      
       it gives everyone else       

1926
01:27:39,837 --> 01:27:42,507
      permission to cut loose,      
       all the heads go back,       

1927
01:27:42,507 --> 01:27:44,926
         and you can see it.        

1928
01:27:44,926 --> 01:27:49,597
       - Why the hell are you      
              so sad?              

1929
01:27:49,597 --> 01:27:53,351
                                  

1930
01:27:53,351 --> 01:27:58,273
          It gets in there          
      and it makes you express.     

1931
01:27:58,273 --> 01:28:00,608
   It's joy, man, it's just joy.    

1932
01:28:00,608 --> 01:28:14,539
                                  

1933
01:28:14,539 --> 01:28:18,793
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

1934
01:28:24,299 --> 01:28:27,385
                                  

1935
01:28:27,385 --> 01:28:29,637
          Come to me now          

1936
01:28:29,637 --> 01:28:32,890
                                  

1937
01:28:32,890 --> 01:28:36,060
      Lay your hands over me      

1938
01:28:37,854 --> 01:28:40,565
        Even if it's a lie        

1939
01:28:40,565 --> 01:28:44,319
     Say it will be all right     

1940
01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:46,738
        And I shall believe       

1941
01:28:46,738 --> 01:28:50,366
      -She is holding the torch     

1942
01:28:50,366 --> 01:28:55,705
       in a line of very rare       
           iconic voices.           

1943
01:28:55,705 --> 01:28:58,750
        - And I do believe        

1944
01:28:58,750 --> 01:29:02,295
      -You know, she comes from     
    a long line of strong women.    

1945
01:29:02,295 --> 01:29:04,255
     Tina Turner, Bonnie Raitt,     
               Aretha.              

1946
01:29:04,255 --> 01:29:10,428
   Fantastic women who have made    
    their place in this business    

1947
01:29:10,428 --> 01:29:12,889
        without compromising.       

1948
01:29:12,889 --> 01:29:19,145
     - Please say honestly you     
        won't give up on me        

1949
01:29:19,145 --> 01:29:22,148
                                  

1950
01:29:22,148 --> 01:29:25,818
          I shall believe         

1951
01:29:25,818 --> 01:29:27,862
      -Sheryl figured out a way     

1952
01:29:27,862 --> 01:29:30,907
          to tell the truth         
         through her talent,        

1953
01:29:30,907 --> 01:29:33,493
       and whether it's about       
           our brokenness           

1954
01:29:33,493 --> 01:29:35,453
    or our longing or our grief,    

1955
01:29:35,453 --> 01:29:38,623
     she's not going to shy away    
           from the truth.          

1956
01:29:38,623 --> 01:29:40,666
            -For Sheryl,            
     it's always about the music    

1957
01:29:40,666 --> 01:29:43,586
     and being true to herself.     

1958
01:29:43,586 --> 01:29:46,464
      -It's called "the feel,"      
              you know,             

1959
01:29:46,464 --> 01:29:49,550
       and either you feel it       
          or you're don't.          

1960
01:29:49,550 --> 01:29:54,222
      What you're trying to do      
     is to pass that feeling on.    

1961
01:29:54,222 --> 01:29:57,141
       And Sheryl can do that.      

1962
01:29:57,141 --> 01:29:58,101
         -The life I have is        

1963
01:29:58,101 --> 01:30:01,938
     completely informed by her     
           and vice versa.          

1964
01:30:01,938 --> 01:30:06,567
    It's bigger than a statement    
         that I could make.         

1965
01:30:06,567 --> 01:30:07,819
 You can't put a label on that.    

1966
01:30:07,819 --> 01:30:11,406
 You know, it's -- it's kind of    
           just a miracle.          

1967
01:30:11,406 --> 01:30:13,408
       It's a miracle, really.      

1968
01:30:13,408 --> 01:30:16,244
        - I shall believe         

1969
01:30:16,244 --> 01:30:18,413
                                  

1970
01:30:18,413 --> 01:30:20,748
          I shall believe         

1971
01:30:20,748 --> 01:30:23,418
                                  

1972
01:30:23,418 --> 01:30:25,711
          I shall believe         

1973
01:30:25,711 --> 01:30:28,798
                                  

1974
01:30:28,798 --> 01:30:30,967
                Oh                

1975
01:30:30,967 --> 01:30:34,053
           I'm just open,           
      I'm just trying to learn.     

1976
01:30:34,053 --> 01:30:36,347
         I'm going to fall,         
     I'm going to make mistakes,    

1977
01:30:36,347 --> 01:30:39,809
   but I'm also going to do some    
     things I'm really proud of,    

1978
01:30:39,809 --> 01:30:42,061
    and things that really speak    
             to who I am            

1979
01:30:42,061 --> 01:30:44,605
          and my character          
           and my desires.          

1980
01:30:44,605 --> 01:30:48,734
     If I'm honest with myself,     
      what art is, is a picture     

1981
01:30:48,734 --> 01:30:50,611
           of who you are           
        at any given moment.        

1982
01:30:50,611 --> 01:30:54,157
 And looking back on my career,    
          my body of work,          

1983
01:30:54,157 --> 01:30:58,786
         I could safely say         
        it is pretty honest.        

1984
01:30:58,786 --> 01:31:02,665
                Oh                

1985
01:31:02,665 --> 01:31:05,835
        Please say honestly       

1986
01:31:05,835 --> 01:31:11,799
      You won't give up on me     

1987
01:31:11,799 --> 01:31:15,720
          I'm gonna keep on        
            keepin' on             

1988
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,265
      Keepin' on, keepin' on      

1989
01:31:19,265 --> 01:31:21,350
                                  

1990
01:31:21,350 --> 01:31:24,854
     What the world needs now     

1991
01:31:24,854 --> 01:31:27,940
        Is love, sweet love       

1992
01:31:27,940 --> 01:31:29,734
        Sing it with me now.        

1993
01:31:29,734 --> 01:31:31,819
      [ Cheering and applause ]     
             Here we go!            

1994
01:31:31,819 --> 01:31:35,531
     What the world needs now     

1995
01:31:35,531 --> 01:31:38,868
      - ...love, sweet love       

1996
01:31:38,868 --> 01:31:43,498
               - Oh               

1997
01:31:43,498 --> 01:31:45,583
          What the world          

1998
01:31:45,583 --> 01:31:47,502
           - Needs now            

1999
01:31:47,502 --> 01:31:53,633
        - Love, sweet love        

2000
01:31:53,633 --> 01:31:56,469
      [ Cheering and applause ]     

2001
01:31:56,469 --> 01:32:00,848
                                  

2002
01:32:00,848 --> 01:32:05,269
                Ooh               

2003
01:32:05,269 --> 01:32:12,568
                                  

2004
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,867
      One, two, three, four...      

2005
01:32:19,867 --> 01:32:26,666
                                  

2006
01:32:26,666 --> 01:32:33,214
         Lay your head down,       
      don't you worry tonight      

2007
01:32:33,214 --> 01:32:40,304
         Can't fix the world       
       no matter how you try       

2008
01:32:40,304 --> 01:32:49,897
    Give it some time, you will    
 find everything is all right     

2009
01:32:49,897 --> 01:32:55,152
                                  

2010
01:32:55,152 --> 01:32:59,657
        There's no such thing      
            as forever             

2011
01:32:59,657 --> 01:33:02,159
                                  

2012
01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:09,041
           But you and me,         
           we got today            

2013
01:33:09,041 --> 01:33:13,129
          And every moment         
          we're together           

2014
01:33:13,129 --> 01:33:16,007
     I know there is a heaven     

2015
01:33:16,007 --> 01:33:21,220
         'Cause you make me        
           feel that way           

2016
01:33:21,220 --> 01:33:29,103
                                  

2017
01:33:29,103 --> 01:33:36,235
          When I get down,         
    you're the one that I call     

2018
01:33:36,235 --> 01:33:42,992
          You picked me up         
      every time that I fall       

2019
01:33:42,992 --> 01:33:49,832
         And when you left,        
    nothing else matters to me     

2020
01:33:49,832 --> 01:33:52,752
              At all              

2021
01:33:52,752 --> 01:33:57,840
                                  

2022
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:02,595
        There's no such thing      
             as forever            

2023
01:34:02,595 --> 01:34:04,930
                                  

2024
01:34:04,930 --> 01:34:11,937
           But you and me,         
           we got today            

2025
01:34:11,937 --> 01:34:15,816
            Every moment           
          we're together           

2026
01:34:15,816 --> 01:34:18,861
     I know there is a heaven     

2027
01:34:18,861 --> 01:34:24,659
         'Cause you make me        
           feel that way           

2028
01:34:24,659 --> 01:34:38,798
                                  

2029
01:34:38,798 --> 01:34:41,676
        Garbage out in space,      
        garbage in the lake        

2030
01:34:41,676 --> 01:34:44,428
        Baby, what a waste        

2031
01:34:44,428 --> 01:34:45,888
                                  

2032
01:34:45,888 --> 01:34:48,599
          Everybody's mad,         
          everybody's sad          

2033
01:34:48,599 --> 01:34:52,186
       See it in their face       

2034
01:34:52,186 --> 01:34:55,106
      I gotta have the latest,     
        gotta have the best        

2035
01:34:55,106 --> 01:34:58,234
      The most, if you wanna be    
       happy, light a match        

2036
01:34:58,234 --> 01:35:02,363
            And watch it           
        all go up in smoke         

2037
01:35:02,363 --> 01:35:06,825