1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:15,619 --> 00:00:17,619 ANNOUNCER: Bringing you Center Four... 4 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,535 [FEEDBACK SOUND] 5 00:00:35,507 --> 00:00:38,376 [SINISTER INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING] 6 00:00:49,389 --> 00:00:52,258 [SINISTER PIANO MUSIC PLAYING] 7 00:01:04,602 --> 00:01:06,668 [CHORUS OF VOICES] 8 00:01:23,456 --> 00:01:26,424 MAN: The shadow that you seen was bipedal, 9 00:01:26,459 --> 00:01:29,955 and it almost looked like a... like a giant canine. 10 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:33,926 It didn't have any...you know, human features to it. 11 00:01:33,961 --> 00:01:36,929 Seven, eight feet tall, very broad-shouldered, 12 00:01:36,964 --> 00:01:38,601 and it had this... 13 00:01:38,636 --> 00:01:39,965 and it had this... 14 00:01:40,803 --> 00:01:42,033 canine-looking head. 15 00:01:46,512 --> 00:01:48,138 DIANE LUTZ: I remember 16 00:01:48,173 --> 00:01:51,251 it was a dog-like creature. 17 00:01:51,286 --> 00:01:56,817 To this day, I can distinctly remember hearing the footsteps. 18 00:01:56,852 --> 00:02:01,624 Bipedal footsteps on the gravel, and it was shuffling. 19 00:02:03,122 --> 00:02:06,761 SHANE LEUTHOLD: This thing emerges from the corn, 20 00:02:06,796 --> 00:02:08,796 and it was about six feet tall, 21 00:02:08,831 --> 00:02:11,205 it had the head of a dog, 22 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,965 high-pointed ears, 23 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,210 it's shoulders were... were rolled, and it's arms were long, 24 00:02:16,245 --> 00:02:19,576 and I remember it just, turned its head 25 00:02:19,611 --> 00:02:21,006 like this and looked at me. 26 00:02:27,685 --> 00:02:30,917 ANONYMOUS MAN: I've faced predators. 27 00:02:30,952 --> 00:02:33,623 Most of your big game predators 28 00:02:33,658 --> 00:02:35,361 that you have in the States. 29 00:02:35,396 --> 00:02:36,824 These things don't act like that. 30 00:02:36,859 --> 00:02:38,826 You look in these things' eyes, 31 00:02:38,861 --> 00:02:40,333 [FAINT HOWLING] 32 00:02:40,368 --> 00:02:43,160 these things look like they're trying to figure you out. 33 00:02:43,195 --> 00:02:44,667 They look like they're looking through you, 34 00:02:44,702 --> 00:02:46,207 trying to figure out what your next move is. 35 00:02:47,441 --> 00:02:49,606 So they can get around it. 36 00:02:49,641 --> 00:02:52,136 I've been around predators my whole life, 37 00:02:52,171 --> 00:02:54,512 and I've never seen anything in my life like that. 38 00:02:54,547 --> 00:02:55,480 [CROW CAWING] 39 00:02:57,979 --> 00:02:59,176 [HEAVY SINISTER ROCK MUSIC PLAYING] 40 00:03:56,774 --> 00:03:57,674 [FAINT HOWLING] 41 00:04:06,751 --> 00:04:08,520 [SINISTER INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING] 42 00:04:30,038 --> 00:04:32,511 So the history of werewolf 43 00:04:32,546 --> 00:04:36,416 and Dogman sightings is... is ancient. 44 00:04:36,451 --> 00:04:40,145 We have to look at the Greek myths first, 45 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:42,587 uh, to come up with the word "lycanthropy". 46 00:04:43,788 --> 00:04:46,459 [THRILLING INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING] 47 00:04:46,494 --> 00:04:48,285 RON MURPHY: And from that time on, 48 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,892 we have now had part of our vernacular 49 00:04:50,927 --> 00:04:52,663 the word "lycanthrope". 50 00:04:52,698 --> 00:04:56,326 And the Greeks were very aware 51 00:04:56,361 --> 00:04:58,295 that werewolves existed. 52 00:04:58,330 --> 00:05:00,506 So when we look at the word "werewolf" as well, 53 00:05:00,541 --> 00:05:01,738 or you know the word "were" 54 00:05:01,773 --> 00:05:04,334 W-E-R, comes from the Middle Ages. 55 00:05:04,369 --> 00:05:06,039 And it simply means, "man". 56 00:05:06,074 --> 00:05:08,173 So you have a man-wolf. 57 00:05:08,208 --> 00:05:10,879 We see also, even in the Viking culture, 58 00:05:10,914 --> 00:05:14,179 you know, a few thousand years later, 2000 years later, 59 00:05:14,214 --> 00:05:17,116 whenever they would dress in the furs 60 00:05:17,151 --> 00:05:19,954 of particular animals of which they wanted to emulate. 61 00:05:19,989 --> 00:05:24,354 The name "Berserker" comes from those that wore bear hides. 62 00:05:24,389 --> 00:05:28,666 But also there were the Vikings that wore the furs of a wolf, 63 00:05:28,701 --> 00:05:30,833 and they were called the "drinkers of blood". 64 00:05:30,868 --> 00:05:34,298 Because they believed that they were able to assume 65 00:05:34,333 --> 00:05:39,006 that animal's form, that animal's ferocity in battle. 66 00:05:39,041 --> 00:05:40,271 [CLAWS CLICKING] 67 00:05:41,076 --> 00:05:42,207 [WOLVES HOWLING] 68 00:05:43,210 --> 00:05:45,012 Sightings historically, 69 00:05:45,047 --> 00:05:47,883 I think are often amalgamated with Bigfoot sightings, unfortunately. 70 00:05:47,918 --> 00:05:50,215 Because, we didn't really have 71 00:05:50,250 --> 00:05:54,351 the differential type of comparison and contrast with the Dogman. 72 00:05:54,386 --> 00:05:56,056 I think and just up until recently, 73 00:05:56,091 --> 00:05:58,894 people were seeing what they call "Dogman", or, "werewolf." 74 00:05:58,929 --> 00:06:02,359 More, because now we have that as part of our language. 75 00:06:02,394 --> 00:06:04,438 But I think a lot of times when people were talking 76 00:06:04,473 --> 00:06:07,034 about being confronted by a Bigfoot, 77 00:06:07,069 --> 00:06:10,543 or encountering a Bigfoot that was acting aggressively. 78 00:06:10,578 --> 00:06:13,205 A lot of those reports that I'm looking at, 79 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,944 I am now thinking, are more in the realm 80 00:06:15,979 --> 00:06:19,585 of the Dogman, werewolf, sightings than a typical Bigfoot sighting. 81 00:06:21,281 --> 00:06:24,524 It's always seemed like Dogman is a bit aggressive in nature, 82 00:06:24,559 --> 00:06:26,988 because you hear so many stories of people that see it, 83 00:06:27,023 --> 00:06:28,792 and it chases them out of an area, 84 00:06:28,827 --> 00:06:30,464 or it bites them. 85 00:06:30,499 --> 00:06:33,830 There are multiple sightings up from here in the region where... 86 00:06:33,865 --> 00:06:35,634 ELIJAH HENDERSON: people just see it running across the trail 87 00:06:35,669 --> 00:06:38,769 or it doesn't chase them, you...you know, they'll just see it. 88 00:06:38,804 --> 00:06:40,298 It's like every encounter you hear 89 00:06:40,333 --> 00:06:42,234 that they're described just a little bit different. 90 00:06:42,269 --> 00:06:45,611 People say it looked like the werewolf from the movie Silver Bullet. 91 00:06:45,646 --> 00:06:47,437 Or you'll hear somebody say, 92 00:06:47,472 --> 00:06:49,274 "Well, uh, the legs and the arms 93 00:06:49,309 --> 00:06:50,781 looked like a canine, but it... 94 00:06:50,816 --> 00:06:52,310 stood up on two legs 95 00:06:52,345 --> 00:06:55,280 it kind of had a coyote head, but it was much larger." 96 00:06:55,315 --> 00:06:56,721 So, it's a... 97 00:06:56,756 --> 00:06:58,118 it's a little strange in that way, 98 00:06:58,153 --> 00:06:59,559 you hear a lot of different types. 99 00:06:59,594 --> 00:07:01,957 They all seem to differ, in some little manner. 100 00:07:04,060 --> 00:07:06,456 SHANE GROVE: So anywhere in the Midwest, 101 00:07:06,491 --> 00:07:08,458 I mean, it just makes perfect sense. 102 00:07:08,493 --> 00:07:10,262 And there's...there's a lot of cover. 103 00:07:10,297 --> 00:07:11,428 I mean, there's still... 104 00:07:11,463 --> 00:07:13,705 uh, in the Midwest and Central America. 105 00:07:13,740 --> 00:07:14,805 There's... North America, 106 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,334 GROVE: there's a lot of... 107 00:07:16,369 --> 00:07:19,238 wide open spaces and a lot of woods. 108 00:07:19,273 --> 00:07:23,649 And a lot of places where a single person jogging down a road, 109 00:07:23,684 --> 00:07:26,344 looks like a tasty, tasty meal. 110 00:07:26,379 --> 00:07:27,653 If that's... 111 00:07:27,688 --> 00:07:29,248 If that's what their intent is, 112 00:07:29,283 --> 00:07:31,448 or if their intent is... 113 00:07:31,483 --> 00:07:33,318 "Just stay away from where we're guarding. 114 00:07:33,353 --> 00:07:36,596 We don't want you, you know, we don't want you messing... 115 00:07:36,631 --> 00:07:38,664 with what... what we're protecting." 116 00:07:49,710 --> 00:07:52,645 Bucyrus, as I understand, 117 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,472 was founded in [CHUCKLES] 1821. 118 00:07:55,507 --> 00:07:59,652 Uh, it was given the name "Bucyrus", by Colonel James Kilbourne. 119 00:07:59,687 --> 00:08:01,951 [CAPTIVATING INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING] 120 00:08:01,986 --> 00:08:04,184 I don't know what his interest was in Bucyrus, 121 00:08:04,219 --> 00:08:07,825 but, we're forever cursed with a name, that nobody could pronounce. 122 00:08:09,125 --> 00:08:10,795 Yeah, it's been around a long time. 123 00:08:13,866 --> 00:08:14,997 Grew up here? Yep. 124 00:08:15,032 --> 00:08:17,670 North of town, out in the country. 125 00:08:17,705 --> 00:08:20,530 It's a quiet... existence growing up, because, 126 00:08:20,565 --> 00:08:21,905 because, I mean, 127 00:08:21,940 --> 00:08:24,171 Bucyrus is a small town. 128 00:08:24,206 --> 00:08:25,535 But I grew up... 129 00:08:25,570 --> 00:08:27,878 very rural... like nine miles outside of town. 130 00:08:32,687 --> 00:08:35,545 So, you know, we visited our grandparents in town, 131 00:08:35,580 --> 00:08:39,956 and it was a nice Middle America small town. 132 00:08:39,991 --> 00:08:41,991 Leave It To Beaver could have been filmed... 133 00:08:42,026 --> 00:08:43,894 you know, on one of the streets. 134 00:08:43,929 --> 00:08:44,862 Uh... 135 00:08:44,897 --> 00:08:47,260 Just a nice place to grow up. 136 00:08:47,295 --> 00:08:49,900 LEUTHOLD: People, you know, the...the people here, 137 00:08:49,935 --> 00:08:52,496 are pretty... down-to-earth people. 138 00:08:52,531 --> 00:08:53,838 You know, we have, uh, 139 00:08:53,873 --> 00:08:56,434 essentially a makeup of people who was born here, 140 00:08:56,469 --> 00:08:59,613 and a lot of people that migrated from Kentucky. 141 00:09:02,442 --> 00:09:04,508 As a kid, 142 00:09:04,543 --> 00:09:06,950 you know, my grandparents would tell us 143 00:09:06,985 --> 00:09:09,854 stories about a creature that 144 00:09:09,889 --> 00:09:13,253 that they refer to as the Bobo. 145 00:09:13,288 --> 00:09:15,486 Bobo...The other thing I can figure, Bobo 146 00:09:15,521 --> 00:09:17,191 was some sort of... 147 00:09:17,226 --> 00:09:21,459 some sort of, you know, bipedal... you know, hominid. 148 00:09:21,494 --> 00:09:23,901 And then they also told us a story about a creature 149 00:09:23,936 --> 00:09:26,299 by the name of Raw Head and Bloody Bones. 150 00:09:26,334 --> 00:09:28,334 Which, I had no idea what that was, 151 00:09:28,369 --> 00:09:31,711 but I presumed it was some version of the Boogeyman. 152 00:09:31,746 --> 00:09:33,713 And so years later, when you have the Internet, 153 00:09:33,748 --> 00:09:35,275 I've... I've actually looked it up, 154 00:09:35,310 --> 00:09:38,212 and, uh, my grandmother on my mother's side 155 00:09:38,247 --> 00:09:40,786 came from the Tennessee area. 156 00:09:40,821 --> 00:09:42,414 Uh, in North Carolina, 157 00:09:42,449 --> 00:09:44,020 in that mountainous area there. 158 00:09:44,055 --> 00:09:46,253 And it turns out that Raw Head and Bloody Bones 159 00:09:46,288 --> 00:09:49,795 date all the way back to 15th Century England. 160 00:09:49,830 --> 00:09:51,225 And you know, 161 00:09:51,260 --> 00:09:53,227 immigrants came over, and the stories came over 162 00:09:53,262 --> 00:09:55,966 and over the years, "Be careful going to the woods. 163 00:09:56,001 --> 00:09:57,198 "The Bobo'll getcha. 164 00:09:57,233 --> 00:09:59,101 Raw Head and Bloody Bones will get you." 165 00:09:59,136 --> 00:10:00,674 You know, things like that. 166 00:10:00,709 --> 00:10:03,303 My parents were no-nonsense. 167 00:10:03,338 --> 00:10:05,503 Uh, my dad would have never... 168 00:10:05,538 --> 00:10:08,781 even entertained the idea of a ghost 169 00:10:08,816 --> 00:10:12,752 or some sort of monster running around. 170 00:10:12,787 --> 00:10:14,688 GROVE: It was a different time 171 00:10:14,723 --> 00:10:17,086 uh, growing up in the '70s. 172 00:10:17,121 --> 00:10:19,990 Uh, people, especially in rural America, 173 00:10:20,025 --> 00:10:22,223 the... that was nonsense to them. 174 00:10:22,258 --> 00:10:23,422 So [CHUCKLES]... 175 00:10:23,457 --> 00:10:24,962 I mean, there's no other way to put it. 176 00:10:24,997 --> 00:10:27,734 And my... probably my dad's solution would have been, 177 00:10:27,769 --> 00:10:30,660 "Hey, if there's a dog, a Dogman or Bigfoot out there, we'll just shoot it." 178 00:10:30,695 --> 00:10:32,904 You know werewolves were... 179 00:10:32,939 --> 00:10:36,666 ...Lon Chaney Jr. On TV8. 180 00:10:36,701 --> 00:10:39,845 LEUTHOLD: And that's my reference to werewolves. 181 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,606 Was, you know, the werewolf, Lon Chaney Jr. 182 00:10:42,641 --> 00:10:44,146 With the...torn plaid shirt, 183 00:10:44,181 --> 00:10:45,983 and the flat face, 184 00:10:46,018 --> 00:10:49,349 and running around, grabbing women and running off with them. 185 00:10:56,523 --> 00:11:00,767 My encounter happened way back in 1972, 186 00:11:00,802 --> 00:11:02,769 between Yellow Springs and Clifton. 187 00:11:03,838 --> 00:11:06,135 [STIRRING INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING] 188 00:11:11,307 --> 00:11:15,012 LUTZ: It started out as a... most likely a Friday night, 189 00:11:15,047 --> 00:11:17,674 because I was allowed to be out on Friday nights. 190 00:11:17,709 --> 00:11:20,116 I was about 17 at the time. 191 00:11:20,151 --> 00:11:22,822 Out with the boyfriend, 192 00:11:22,857 --> 00:11:25,550 and another couple, we had two different... 193 00:11:25,585 --> 00:11:27,926 we had two cars, two sets of us, 194 00:11:27,961 --> 00:11:30,830 and... well, you know how kids are. 195 00:11:30,865 --> 00:11:33,899 We were out going to "park". 196 00:11:33,934 --> 00:11:35,692 [FAINT SOUNDS OF DRIVING] 197 00:11:35,727 --> 00:11:39,872 LUTZ: We, uh, go down the road, and the bridge is totally out, 198 00:11:39,907 --> 00:11:41,104 there's just the barricade. 199 00:11:41,139 --> 00:11:43,667 So, we... 200 00:11:43,702 --> 00:11:47,539 turn around and make sure that both of the vehicles are facing out. 201 00:11:47,574 --> 00:11:49,673 So if the cops come along, 202 00:11:49,708 --> 00:11:51,543 you know, "We were just leaving anyway. 203 00:11:51,578 --> 00:11:52,885 -"No big deal." -[CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS] 204 00:11:54,515 --> 00:11:56,416 Really, really dark. 205 00:11:56,451 --> 00:11:58,154 It was probably... 206 00:11:58,189 --> 00:11:59,991 it was cloudy, I don't know. 207 00:12:00,026 --> 00:12:01,718 [SINISTER INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING] 208 00:12:01,753 --> 00:12:03,555 There were no leaves on the trees. 209 00:12:04,426 --> 00:12:06,129 But it wasn't real cold, 210 00:12:06,164 --> 00:12:09,231 so it was a perfect night to be standing out and laughing. 211 00:12:13,633 --> 00:12:16,106 I was leaning on... 212 00:12:16,141 --> 00:12:18,372 the car with my boyfriend. 213 00:12:18,407 --> 00:12:20,979 Nice muscle car, back then. 214 00:12:21,014 --> 00:12:22,882 So I'm leaning... 215 00:12:22,917 --> 00:12:24,774 We're talking with the other couple 216 00:12:24,809 --> 00:12:26,248 who's leaning on... 217 00:12:26,283 --> 00:12:28,019 their car, I don't know how long we'd been there, 218 00:12:28,054 --> 00:12:31,253 maybe 15-20 minutes? 219 00:12:34,995 --> 00:12:38,392 There was gravel on the berm of the road. 220 00:12:38,427 --> 00:12:40,064 And now remember, this is... 221 00:12:40,099 --> 00:12:42,231 just one way in and one way out, 222 00:12:42,266 --> 00:12:43,430 because the bridge is out. 223 00:12:45,467 --> 00:12:47,874 Well, there's gravel on the berm. 224 00:12:47,909 --> 00:12:51,405 There's a brush row next to a creek, 225 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,913 and I see 226 00:12:53,948 --> 00:12:57,312 eye shine, meaning an animal, 227 00:12:57,347 --> 00:12:59,985 up in the trees, or so I'd thought. 228 00:13:01,846 --> 00:13:03,681 I mentioned out, 229 00:13:03,716 --> 00:13:06,486 "I wonder if that's a possum, or a raccoon, or what's up there?" 230 00:13:07,753 --> 00:13:09,357 And then... 231 00:13:09,392 --> 00:13:11,293 something walked out. 232 00:13:12,131 --> 00:13:14,032 And it wasn't a possum, 233 00:13:14,067 --> 00:13:16,364 it wasn't a raccoon. It was a... 234 00:13:17,367 --> 00:13:18,498 a creature. 235 00:13:18,533 --> 00:13:20,500 I have no idea 236 00:13:20,535 --> 00:13:24,108 at the time what it was, nor did anyone else. 237 00:13:24,143 --> 00:13:29,113 To this day, I can distinctly remember hearing the... 238 00:13:29,148 --> 00:13:32,380 rustling of the gravel that's on the berm. 239 00:13:34,989 --> 00:13:37,121 LUTZ: And... there's this dark creature. 240 00:13:37,156 --> 00:13:38,584 It wasn't huge. 241 00:13:40,357 --> 00:13:43,226 Maybe five foot, five and a half foot... 242 00:13:43,261 --> 00:13:46,262 six to eight feet away from me. 243 00:13:46,297 --> 00:13:48,627 When it was in the, uh, weeds, 244 00:13:48,662 --> 00:13:50,200 it had its mouth closed, 245 00:13:50,235 --> 00:13:52,466 its eyes were amber, 246 00:13:52,501 --> 00:13:55,139 almond, sort of almond-shape. 247 00:13:55,174 --> 00:13:59,539 The ears were very, very close to the head. 248 00:13:59,574 --> 00:14:02,641 LUTZ: Pointed straight up, but they weren't real long ears, 249 00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:04,247 but they were pointed straight up. 250 00:14:09,881 --> 00:14:12,992 LEUTHOLD: My belief... it was August of 1985. 251 00:14:13,027 --> 00:14:16,424 Um, at that time, there was a friend of the family, 252 00:14:16,459 --> 00:14:18,624 who, when I was a high school athlete, 253 00:14:18,659 --> 00:14:20,230 and he had asked me if I'd wanted 254 00:14:20,265 --> 00:14:21,594 to get into a fitness program, 255 00:14:21,629 --> 00:14:23,794 a running program, to be in shape. 256 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:25,532 I said, "Sure." 257 00:14:25,567 --> 00:14:29,943 So the plan was that I was going to go out and run five miles 258 00:14:30,605 --> 00:14:32,110 in the evening. 259 00:14:32,145 --> 00:14:36,048 I lived on State Route 4, North 4381. 260 00:14:36,083 --> 00:14:38,809 At that time, really the only place for me to run 261 00:14:38,844 --> 00:14:41,911 was this little side road, just south 262 00:14:41,946 --> 00:14:44,089 of my house called Temple Road. 263 00:14:45,994 --> 00:14:47,686 If my memory serves me correctly, 264 00:14:47,721 --> 00:14:49,754 I was going to try to get running at, like, eight o'clock. 265 00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:52,526 And then I procrastinated, and this happened and that happened. 266 00:14:52,561 --> 00:14:55,199 And by the time I was actually ready to go run, 267 00:14:55,234 --> 00:14:56,398 it was dark. 268 00:14:56,433 --> 00:14:58,235 You know, I was a country boy. 269 00:14:58,270 --> 00:15:00,039 You know, I...I was never afraid of the dark. 270 00:15:00,074 --> 00:15:02,272 So going out and running down a country road at night, 271 00:15:02,307 --> 00:15:04,703 didn't bother me at all. 272 00:15:04,738 --> 00:15:07,508 I left my house, it was probably little after nine, 273 00:15:07,543 --> 00:15:09,950 and it just... it had just gotten dark. 274 00:15:10,744 --> 00:15:12,183 But it was a very clear night. 275 00:15:12,218 --> 00:15:13,580 I mean, it was really clear, 276 00:15:13,615 --> 00:15:14,779 visibility was good. 277 00:15:14,814 --> 00:15:16,913 I start down Temple Road, 278 00:15:16,948 --> 00:15:19,883 and at that time, on the right hand side, 279 00:15:19,918 --> 00:15:21,951 which would be the north side of the road, 280 00:15:21,986 --> 00:15:24,426 there was corn, on the left side, 281 00:15:24,461 --> 00:15:26,296 which should be the south side of Temple Road, 282 00:15:26,331 --> 00:15:27,726 it was all beans. 283 00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:30,795 And it stayed like that all the way for one mile. 284 00:15:30,830 --> 00:15:31,895 So... 285 00:15:31,930 --> 00:15:34,337 I made it down the State Route 19, 286 00:15:34,372 --> 00:15:35,800 and I was on my way back, 287 00:15:35,835 --> 00:15:39,342 and as I approached Flickinger Road on the way back, 288 00:15:39,377 --> 00:15:41,839 which meant that I had one mile to go, 289 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:44,776 I got this weird feeling. 290 00:15:44,811 --> 00:15:46,712 It's this kind of feeling that 291 00:15:46,747 --> 00:15:48,681 you know, something's wrong, 292 00:15:48,716 --> 00:15:51,189 and you know, there's... something's watching you. 293 00:15:51,818 --> 00:15:53,323 And... 294 00:15:53,358 --> 00:15:56,788 I felt like it was coming from those woods, so I stopped. 295 00:15:56,823 --> 00:15:59,626 I don't know why I stopped, but I stopped, 296 00:15:59,661 --> 00:16:01,364 and I looked into the woods... 297 00:16:02,466 --> 00:16:03,828 and I didn't see anything. 298 00:16:03,863 --> 00:16:06,930 I...I didn't hear anything, I didn't see anything. 299 00:16:06,965 --> 00:16:09,306 As I was about to start running again, 300 00:16:09,341 --> 00:16:12,705 in the cornfield, I see the corn start moving. 301 00:16:15,380 --> 00:16:16,874 -Whatever it was... -[LEAVES RUSTLING] 302 00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:21,318 ...it was really big because a lot of corn was moving. 303 00:16:21,353 --> 00:16:23,221 I mean, a lot of corn is moving, 304 00:16:23,256 --> 00:16:25,289 and then all of a sudden, it stopped. 305 00:16:25,324 --> 00:16:27,720 And I thought, "Wow, that's strange." 306 00:16:27,755 --> 00:16:29,194 And so I said, "Well, I'mma get out of here." 307 00:16:29,229 --> 00:16:31,460 So I take off running, 308 00:16:31,495 --> 00:16:33,528 and when I took off running 309 00:16:33,563 --> 00:16:35,332 whatever was in the corn... 310 00:16:35,367 --> 00:16:37,796 takes off running, too. 311 00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:40,469 And that's what startled me, really, 312 00:16:40,504 --> 00:16:42,702 because that's not how deer behave. 313 00:16:42,737 --> 00:16:44,176 Deer gets, you know, 314 00:16:44,211 --> 00:16:45,639 deer gets scared or they get startled, 315 00:16:45,674 --> 00:16:47,707 or they get surprised, and they just take off running. 316 00:16:47,742 --> 00:16:50,842 But this thing started running with me. 317 00:16:50,877 --> 00:16:52,580 And when I say it started running with me, 318 00:16:53,154 --> 00:16:55,154 it was pacing me. 319 00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:57,189 SHANE: It...and it kind of freaked me out, 320 00:16:57,224 --> 00:16:59,323 so I stopped. 321 00:16:59,358 --> 00:17:01,523 And when I stopped... 322 00:17:01,558 --> 00:17:03,195 it stopped. 323 00:17:03,230 --> 00:17:06,198 To this day, I think it would've had to been, at least 324 00:17:06,233 --> 00:17:08,233 three rows in. 325 00:17:08,268 --> 00:17:11,863 And so I remember stopping thinking, 326 00:17:11,898 --> 00:17:14,206 'How does it know that I stopped?' 327 00:17:14,241 --> 00:17:17,638 So I stood there, and as I stood there, staring at the corn, 328 00:17:17,673 --> 00:17:19,805 I mean, not a single stalk moved. 329 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,280 I mean, it was perfectly, just still. 330 00:17:22,315 --> 00:17:24,282 Like this thing that was in the corn, 331 00:17:24,317 --> 00:17:27,681 like it was just perfectly still. 332 00:17:27,716 --> 00:17:29,815 And I don't know how long I stood there, 333 00:17:29,850 --> 00:17:31,850 but it spooked me. 334 00:17:31,885 --> 00:17:34,226 And... not knowing what it was, 335 00:17:34,261 --> 00:17:35,887 I said, "That's it, I'm taking off." 336 00:17:35,922 --> 00:17:37,053 So... 337 00:17:37,088 --> 00:17:38,758 and when I took off, 338 00:17:38,793 --> 00:17:41,057 it takes off simultaneously. 339 00:17:41,433 --> 00:17:42,696 and... 340 00:17:42,731 --> 00:17:45,094 it's pacing me, and I start running faster, 341 00:17:45,129 --> 00:17:46,799 and it starts running faster. 342 00:17:48,407 --> 00:17:51,573 I realize... this thing's stalking me. 343 00:17:51,608 --> 00:17:53,476 Whatever...whatever is in the corn. 344 00:17:53,511 --> 00:17:56,875 I realize when I get to Route 4, 345 00:17:56,910 --> 00:17:59,581 I'm going to have to turn left to go home. 346 00:17:59,616 --> 00:18:02,518 And I'm just...assuming this thing stays in the corn. 347 00:18:02,553 --> 00:18:03,915 SHANE: Assuming it did. 348 00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:05,950 When I get to Route 4 and I turn left to go home, 349 00:18:05,985 --> 00:18:07,952 I'm gonna run right into it, I'm going to intersect with it. 350 00:18:08,757 --> 00:18:10,262 And... 351 00:18:10,297 --> 00:18:13,760 One of my best friends who lived just down the road from me, 352 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,499 he was to the right. 353 00:18:16,534 --> 00:18:19,370 So...my thought is "Okay." 354 00:18:19,405 --> 00:18:21,801 "I'm not going to turn left and go home, because I don't want this... 355 00:18:21,836 --> 00:18:23,803 I don't want to intersect with this thing, 356 00:18:23,838 --> 00:18:25,134 so I am going to cut right." 357 00:18:25,169 --> 00:18:26,740 So, I made up my mind. 358 00:18:26,775 --> 00:18:29,611 I was just going to stay on the road. 359 00:18:29,646 --> 00:18:33,285 And when I get to Route 4, I'm going to cut right, 360 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,078 I'm gonna run to his house. 361 00:18:35,113 --> 00:18:38,884 So I realized that as I'm going to get there, 362 00:18:38,919 --> 00:18:41,755 there...I'm gonna run out of corn. 363 00:18:41,790 --> 00:18:43,460 So whatever is in this corn 364 00:18:43,495 --> 00:18:46,628 is going to come out before I actually get to Route 4. 365 00:18:47,994 --> 00:18:50,995 So, I told myself, "Don't look." 366 00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:53,569 And the reason why I said, in my mind, 367 00:18:53,604 --> 00:18:55,208 "Don't look." Because... 368 00:18:55,243 --> 00:18:57,001 I had no idea what it was. 369 00:18:57,036 --> 00:18:59,278 And part of me thought, 370 00:18:59,313 --> 00:19:02,413 "If I looked, I might freeze up." 371 00:19:02,448 --> 00:19:04,041 I'm coming to the end of the corn, 372 00:19:04,978 --> 00:19:06,252 and... 373 00:19:06,287 --> 00:19:08,353 I looked, I couldn't help myself. 374 00:19:08,388 --> 00:19:10,487 I...I...I could not help myself. 375 00:19:10,522 --> 00:19:13,820 As I'm running, I kind of turned my body like this, 376 00:19:13,855 --> 00:19:15,690 to just kind of, like... 377 00:19:15,725 --> 00:19:17,186 side shuffle, 378 00:19:17,221 --> 00:19:18,990 and that's when I saw it. 379 00:19:21,027 --> 00:19:24,369 This thing emerges from the corn, 380 00:19:24,404 --> 00:19:26,272 and it was about six feet tall, 381 00:19:26,307 --> 00:19:28,307 because that's how tall the corn was. 382 00:19:29,233 --> 00:19:30,936 And, it... 383 00:19:30,971 --> 00:19:32,509 had the head of a dog, 384 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:35,512 high pointed ears. 385 00:19:35,547 --> 00:19:38,878 SHANE: And it's shoulders were rolled like this, 386 00:19:38,913 --> 00:19:42,211 like it had, like, terrible pos...like a person with terrible posture. 387 00:19:42,246 --> 00:19:46,655 It's shoulder rolled and its arms were long, 388 00:19:46,690 --> 00:19:49,823 and, I remember, it just turned its head 389 00:19:49,858 --> 00:19:51,561 like this and looked at me. 390 00:19:53,532 --> 00:19:56,500 I saw its head, I saw the ears. 391 00:19:56,535 --> 00:19:59,569 Could I tell you what color its fur was? No. 392 00:19:59,604 --> 00:20:02,132 It could have been real dark gray, it could have been black. 393 00:20:02,167 --> 00:20:03,573 It could have been dark brown. 394 00:20:03,608 --> 00:20:06,708 I can't tell you what color the fur was for sure. 395 00:20:06,743 --> 00:20:09,843 The interesting thing is, when I saw it, 396 00:20:09,878 --> 00:20:12,241 I didn't immediately think werewolf. 397 00:20:12,276 --> 00:20:14,386 I just didn't, because... 398 00:20:14,421 --> 00:20:16,850 as we talked about, my frame of reference 399 00:20:16,885 --> 00:20:21,624 for what a werewolf was, was something I had seen on TV8. 400 00:20:21,659 --> 00:20:27,190 It was a man with a flat face, and it wore torn, tattered clothes. 401 00:20:27,225 --> 00:20:29,368 It did not look like what I saw. 402 00:20:29,403 --> 00:20:31,832 And the only frame of reference that I had, 403 00:20:31,867 --> 00:20:35,671 was it looked just like the Egyptian God, Anubis. 404 00:20:35,706 --> 00:20:37,706 That's the best way I can describe it. 405 00:20:42,075 --> 00:20:45,747 There was an almost a crackling feeling. 406 00:20:45,782 --> 00:20:48,211 The hair on the back of my neck stood up. 407 00:20:48,246 --> 00:20:52,358 Almost like a static, static electricity, maybe. 408 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:02,302 LUTZ: And, I suppose that's a sixth sense, saying, "It's time to leave." 409 00:21:05,769 --> 00:21:11,806 I don't know whose voice it was, and I hear "Let's go, now." 410 00:21:11,841 --> 00:21:15,612 I run around and the creature, 411 00:21:15,647 --> 00:21:18,450 it didn't move like a human. 412 00:21:18,485 --> 00:21:22,619 LUTZ: Maybe, it moved like a dog that's walking on its hind legs. 413 00:21:22,654 --> 00:21:25,820 It almost moved kangaroo-like. 414 00:21:25,855 --> 00:21:29,087 Like the legs were bent the wrong way. 415 00:21:29,122 --> 00:21:31,991 That's sort of freakier than about anything, 416 00:21:32,026 --> 00:21:34,532 is to see something that 417 00:21:34,567 --> 00:21:37,634 your mind does not want to grasp. 418 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:40,329 And it's on two legs. 419 00:21:40,364 --> 00:21:46,577 LUTZ: It kind of does a hop, skipping motion, not very many feet. 420 00:21:46,612 --> 00:21:50,009 It followed me, which was no big deal and it was so close. 421 00:21:50,044 --> 00:21:55,146 It did its hop skipping motion and I could see it out of my periphery. 422 00:21:55,181 --> 00:21:57,852 And it followed me as I ran around. 423 00:21:57,887 --> 00:22:01,988 I managed to get into my, uh, passenger side. 424 00:22:02,023 --> 00:22:07,290 And, as he pulls off, because there was so much gravel, 425 00:22:07,325 --> 00:22:09,930 the gravel was spinning some, 426 00:22:09,965 --> 00:22:14,165 and it was running alongside of the car, 427 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,642 looking at me, straight, you know, straight in the eye. 428 00:22:18,677 --> 00:22:22,008 It's really hard to explain unless you've ever had 429 00:22:22,043 --> 00:22:25,275 something that maybe can't be explained. 430 00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:27,849 You know, that's happened to you. 431 00:22:27,884 --> 00:22:31,457 I simply focused on the eyes and its movement, 432 00:22:31,492 --> 00:22:34,658 because its movement was so unusual to me. 433 00:22:34,693 --> 00:22:38,761 I really can't say how many feet it followed, 434 00:22:38,796 --> 00:22:41,665 hopping along, beside the car. 435 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,865 But, I sort of felt in danger. 436 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:46,967 I wasn't terrified because 437 00:22:47,002 --> 00:22:50,542 nothing was going into my head the way it should. 438 00:22:50,577 --> 00:22:55,173 I guess it's what happens when you encounter something 439 00:22:55,208 --> 00:22:58,451 that you have no parameters for what it is. 440 00:23:01,214 --> 00:23:04,886 And when I saw it, I did kind of pause. 441 00:23:04,921 --> 00:23:09,055 I didn't freeze, but I did kind of pause, and I looked at it. 442 00:23:09,090 --> 00:23:12,058 LEUTHOLD: Like I said, there's weeds, wildflowers 443 00:23:12,093 --> 00:23:14,665 and other stuff that runs right up to the corn. 444 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:18,361 So all I could see was from, like, thigh down, 445 00:23:18,396 --> 00:23:20,165 so I don't know what his feet look like. 446 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,607 I don't know what its knees look like or anything like that. 447 00:23:23,467 --> 00:23:25,742 But, I saw its torso. 448 00:23:25,777 --> 00:23:28,173 It... But, when it turned and looked at me, 449 00:23:28,208 --> 00:23:32,914 it just looked like it had this massive chest. 450 00:23:32,949 --> 00:23:34,685 So I take off across Route 4. 451 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,688 So, I'm, I'm gunning it as fast as I can. 452 00:23:37,723 --> 00:23:41,527 This thing has dropped to all fours and is chasing me. 453 00:23:41,562 --> 00:23:43,628 As I'm getting closer to my buddy's house, 454 00:23:43,663 --> 00:23:46,829 I knew that they had an in-ground pool. 455 00:23:46,864 --> 00:23:49,634 And they had a fence around, a chain link fence. 456 00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:54,133 But as I'm getting closer, I look and I see the gates shut. 457 00:23:54,168 --> 00:23:56,036 I was like, "Oh." [EXHALES NERVOUSLY] 458 00:23:56,071 --> 00:23:58,236 And I know if this thing is following me, 459 00:23:58,271 --> 00:24:00,612 my only options is, I'm just going to have to jump the fence. 460 00:24:00,647 --> 00:24:04,308 LEUTHOLD: So I jump and I throw my feet up like in the air, 461 00:24:04,343 --> 00:24:06,475 like the old Fosbury flop high jump. 462 00:24:06,510 --> 00:24:09,346 And I put my hand on the top of the fence and it was scalloped. 463 00:24:09,381 --> 00:24:10,446 I remember this. 464 00:24:10,481 --> 00:24:12,624 It had those, y'know, the scallops. 465 00:24:12,659 --> 00:24:15,792 And I pushed it down and when I did, and then it popped back up, 466 00:24:15,827 --> 00:24:18,828 it just slashed me right across my side. 467 00:24:18,863 --> 00:24:23,965 I land in like a stumbling motion, and I just dive headfirst into the pool. 468 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,132 LEUTHOLD: And I'm blowing out my breath and I am going down 469 00:24:26,167 --> 00:24:30,103 and I can feel it, I can still feel it, sliding out the pool. It was ten feet deep. 470 00:24:30,138 --> 00:24:32,171 I'm sliding down. 471 00:24:32,206 --> 00:24:34,844 I blow all the air out and I get to the bottom. 472 00:24:34,879 --> 00:24:40,685 And I somehow pinch my nose and I look up and I am fully expecting to see this thing, 473 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,655 with the rolled shoulders and the dog head, 474 00:24:43,690 --> 00:24:46,449 and the big chest sitting on the side of the pool. 475 00:24:48,552 --> 00:24:51,454 But it seemed like a long time, I was on the bottom pool and I'm looking up, 476 00:24:51,489 --> 00:24:52,565 and I'm looking up 477 00:24:53,865 --> 00:24:55,524 and I don't see anything. 478 00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:58,197 So I'm like, [WHISPERS] "Oh, my God." 479 00:24:58,232 --> 00:25:00,936 I climb up out of the pool and I run. 480 00:25:00,971 --> 00:25:04,434 And I rip that door open as hard as I can. 481 00:25:04,469 --> 00:25:09,307 And my buddy was sitting there, he screams and I scream. 482 00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:11,474 And I slammed the door. 483 00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:13,542 And I remember screaming, 484 00:25:13,577 --> 00:25:14,983 "Turn the lights out, turn the lights out." 485 00:25:15,986 --> 00:25:17,656 And he has no idea what's going on. 486 00:25:17,691 --> 00:25:20,791 So we turn the lights out and I'm just looking out the windows. 487 00:25:20,826 --> 00:25:24,388 I'm looking out the windows, thinking, "Is this thing out there?" 488 00:25:29,098 --> 00:25:31,868 LEUTHOLD: The next night, I played cards with guys 489 00:25:31,903 --> 00:25:33,804 on the basketball team, 490 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:35,905 and I told them the story. 491 00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:38,204 But I did not tell them what I saw. 492 00:25:38,239 --> 00:25:42,043 I vividly remember, um, the next night. 493 00:25:42,078 --> 00:25:43,814 We were at a friend's house. 494 00:25:43,849 --> 00:25:47,543 So we're all in the garage, outside, playing cards. 495 00:25:47,578 --> 00:25:50,381 It was a... It was a bunch of us guys, that went to high school together. 496 00:25:50,416 --> 00:25:53,923 And he's telling the story about outrunning, 497 00:25:53,958 --> 00:25:57,795 and having something pacing him in the cornfield. 498 00:25:57,830 --> 00:26:03,867 We... We were all teammates, and what teammates do is we give each other a bunch of crap. 499 00:26:03,902 --> 00:26:06,870 He probably already got enough crap from us as it was, 500 00:26:06,905 --> 00:26:08,971 so he didn't want to get any more. 501 00:26:09,006 --> 00:26:14,207 And... And you don't want to be called crazy, y'know, but he did tell us the story. 502 00:26:14,242 --> 00:26:16,407 I remember the story and he's asking, like, 503 00:26:16,442 --> 00:26:18,915 "What do you guys think this was?" 504 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:23,689 And, nobody had an answer. 505 00:26:23,724 --> 00:26:27,220 LEUTHOLD: When I did the research, I found out that on Flickinger Road 506 00:26:27,255 --> 00:26:29,860 to just down on Flickinger Road, 507 00:26:29,895 --> 00:26:32,555 is at least two Indian burial grounds. 508 00:26:32,590 --> 00:26:37,461 So, that made me start thinking in a, in a totally different way 509 00:26:37,496 --> 00:26:39,232 than what I always thought. 510 00:26:39,267 --> 00:26:43,236 For years I had thought, this is a flesh and blood creature. 511 00:26:43,271 --> 00:26:45,502 That it's wolf-like or dog-like, 512 00:26:45,537 --> 00:26:48,439 and no one seems to catch them because they are really fast. 513 00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:50,749 They're really smart, they're really stealthy. 514 00:26:50,784 --> 00:26:56,315 Now my mindset has switched to, um, "I think these are supernatural creatures." 515 00:26:57,483 --> 00:26:59,351 That's my opinion. 516 00:26:59,386 --> 00:27:03,520 I revisited where this happened about a year and a half ago. 517 00:27:03,555 --> 00:27:04,829 I hadn't been... 518 00:27:04,864 --> 00:27:08,899 I hadn't been back in those many, many years. 519 00:27:08,934 --> 00:27:11,627 LUTZ: I found out there's Indian mounds there. 520 00:27:11,662 --> 00:27:18,711 Adena Indians, which are very, were very common in this part of Ohio. 521 00:27:18,746 --> 00:27:22,407 I've read, where your Dogman, for some reason, 522 00:27:22,442 --> 00:27:26,279 are found or seen frequently 523 00:27:26,314 --> 00:27:27,720 where there's Indian mounds, 524 00:27:28,613 --> 00:27:30,184 so I don't know. 525 00:27:30,219 --> 00:27:33,121 Y'know, I just, I don't know what to say to that. 526 00:27:33,156 --> 00:27:38,060 GROVE: If you believe the aspect of a Dogman, werewolf creature 527 00:27:38,095 --> 00:27:41,657 being more supernatural than natural, 528 00:27:41,692 --> 00:27:47,630 you can't hardly go any, anywhere here and not have a Native American settlement. 529 00:27:47,665 --> 00:27:53,977 It just lends itself to that angle of these creatures 530 00:27:54,012 --> 00:27:59,312 being y'know, the guardians of the Native American burial mounds, 531 00:27:59,347 --> 00:28:00,610 or grounds. 532 00:28:07,322 --> 00:28:10,719 My name is Adam Davis, and I've... 533 00:28:10,754 --> 00:28:14,228 After personal experiences, initially with Dogman, 534 00:28:14,263 --> 00:28:20,531 I've been a researcher since about, officially since, about 2005. 535 00:28:20,566 --> 00:28:27,439 The... My initial, actual sighting was in 2005, back in October 19th. 536 00:28:27,474 --> 00:28:33,412 After we had initially started hearing about 537 00:28:33,447 --> 00:28:37,647 different howling reports of everything out around 538 00:28:37,682 --> 00:28:40,958 uh, the Germantown and Liberty, Ohio area. 539 00:28:44,458 --> 00:28:48,196 My girlfriend and I decided to go out to Anthony Road and... 540 00:28:49,529 --> 00:28:51,562 And to see if we could find any tracks. 541 00:28:52,598 --> 00:28:54,400 And as we crossed the bridge, 542 00:28:55,843 --> 00:28:58,107 I was doing my usual thing, 543 00:28:58,142 --> 00:29:00,241 looking down at the sandbars. 544 00:29:00,276 --> 00:29:02,078 Y'know, to see if there was anything there. 545 00:29:02,113 --> 00:29:04,080 I didn't see any tracks. 546 00:29:04,115 --> 00:29:07,853 Because sometimes we would see tracks in the sand bars. 547 00:29:07,888 --> 00:29:13,419 And we got across the bridge and it kind of takes a little turn. 548 00:29:13,454 --> 00:29:16,752 And down, down a little downhill. 549 00:29:16,787 --> 00:29:21,394 And, I tell her to stop because I see something black, 550 00:29:21,429 --> 00:29:24,232 over on the right hand side of the road. 551 00:29:24,267 --> 00:29:26,102 I was... You know... 552 00:29:26,137 --> 00:29:29,798 I was on the passenger side, so it was on my side. 553 00:29:29,833 --> 00:29:32,977 And, I was... Because I was looking in the mud 554 00:29:33,012 --> 00:29:35,848 and silt and everything, to see if there was any tracks. 555 00:29:39,018 --> 00:29:43,581 I get out and I go over to it and I look at it. 556 00:29:43,616 --> 00:29:45,616 And I realize it's an article of clothing. 557 00:29:45,651 --> 00:29:51,589 It was a pair of pants, of women's brand of pants, in a petite size. 558 00:29:51,624 --> 00:29:53,525 And I pick them up and I'm looking at them. 559 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:59,564 And there's silt on the back of the pants from where they had lain... 560 00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:06,439 lain against the dampness of the ground, and they were slightly damp from the rain. 561 00:30:06,474 --> 00:30:12,885 And then I took them and turned them around, and I realized that it was... 562 00:30:16,154 --> 00:30:17,351 [EXHALES] 563 00:30:20,026 --> 00:30:21,487 [VOICE SHAKING] I realized 564 00:30:21,522 --> 00:30:23,687 that the front of the pants... 565 00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:25,425 were just like, totally shredded. 566 00:30:27,429 --> 00:30:29,066 And matted with blood. 567 00:30:29,101 --> 00:30:33,499 And it was not dried blood or anything. 568 00:30:33,534 --> 00:30:35,336 It was just congealing. 569 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,338 I look across the road, 570 00:30:38,737 --> 00:30:42,541 and I see red fabric. 571 00:30:42,576 --> 00:30:46,952 So, I mean, at this point in time, it was kind of... 572 00:30:46,987 --> 00:30:51,253 [SHAKING VOICE] And I really was starting to put together what I'm seeing. 573 00:30:51,288 --> 00:30:55,521 And, y'know, as I'm looking at it, I walk across the road 574 00:30:55,556 --> 00:31:00,130 and I find a sweater and a... and a T shirt 575 00:31:00,165 --> 00:31:02,198 that are still partially inside of each other. 576 00:31:04,004 --> 00:31:09,040 I looked... and I looked at it and there was blood there on the sweater. 577 00:31:09,075 --> 00:31:11,009 But the T-shirt was worse. 578 00:31:11,044 --> 00:31:13,913 It was shredded and matted with blood, 579 00:31:15,048 --> 00:31:18,181 and I called the police. 580 00:31:18,216 --> 00:31:21,052 I got ahold of dispatch and told them what we found. 581 00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:25,287 And, this is what really kills me. 582 00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:29,291 They laughed it off. 583 00:31:29,326 --> 00:31:33,460 They said, "Oh, it's probably just someone's trash that, that they left out there." 584 00:31:33,495 --> 00:31:35,363 It's nothing. Don't worry about it. 585 00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:42,106 So, I told my girlfriend, "We're going to go to the house." 586 00:31:42,141 --> 00:31:44,438 "We're going to get a bag and come back for this." 587 00:31:44,473 --> 00:31:47,903 Because we didn't have anything to put it in. 588 00:31:47,938 --> 00:31:52,578 It was maybe ten minutes from there to the house and back. 589 00:31:52,613 --> 00:31:55,713 We got back, those clothes were gone. 590 00:31:58,421 --> 00:32:01,818 They had taken a vehicle and driven over the places 591 00:32:01,853 --> 00:32:05,756 where those clothes were laying, where there was an imprint in the mud, 592 00:32:05,791 --> 00:32:08,924 or any trace of blood because they were, the... 593 00:32:08,959 --> 00:32:12,631 the sweater and the T-shirt were laying in... 594 00:32:12,666 --> 00:32:15,172 on the edge of the road in the, in the tall grass. 595 00:32:16,802 --> 00:32:24,808 In 2015, I wind up meeting up with this guy from Hamilton. 596 00:32:24,843 --> 00:32:30,451 He was telling us how he had been, y' know, looking at anomalous, reports, 597 00:32:30,486 --> 00:32:36,325 and everything, where he was getting descriptions of oversize, heeded prints. 598 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,955 He said he was basically going from house to house, 599 00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:44,300 through the Germantown dam area, y'know, where there were... 600 00:32:44,335 --> 00:32:47,303 Where there's houses along the edge of the park. 601 00:32:47,338 --> 00:32:50,306 And, he came to this one family 602 00:32:50,341 --> 00:32:54,937 that said that in 2000... April 2006, 603 00:32:54,972 --> 00:32:58,578 their daughter went out one morning, to go out jogging 604 00:32:58,613 --> 00:33:04,155 like she usually would do, and she never came back. 605 00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:10,293 She went out jogging along Anthony Road, and up around the backside of the dam. 606 00:33:10,328 --> 00:33:14,495 [SOBS] I just dropped to my knees when I heard this. 607 00:33:14,530 --> 00:33:17,696 I mean, it was confirmation, but it was like the worst kind of confirmation. 608 00:33:21,339 --> 00:33:27,475 There was no question in my mind that if it was something that he... 609 00:33:27,510 --> 00:33:29,576 It was a Dogman that did that. 610 00:33:29,611 --> 00:33:33,943 Because, first of all, what would have happened? 611 00:33:33,978 --> 00:33:37,320 What would have happened to the body otherwise? 612 00:33:37,355 --> 00:33:41,786 The body was gone. The clothes were shredded. 613 00:33:41,821 --> 00:33:45,196 There's no bear out there. There's no cougars out there. 614 00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:47,528 There's no natural predators that would do that. 615 00:33:47,563 --> 00:33:50,564 And there is, from what I've heard of other reports, 616 00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:55,239 there are the reports of the where they will, y'know, 617 00:33:55,274 --> 00:33:59,408 essentially shred off the clothes off of a human in an attack. 618 00:33:59,443 --> 00:34:02,411 The LBLO case is one of them. 619 00:34:02,446 --> 00:34:08,010 If... from the Land Between the Lakes back in '82. 620 00:34:08,045 --> 00:34:12,454 That... They said that the victims were pretty much disrobed 621 00:34:12,489 --> 00:34:14,390 of their clothes, they were just shredded off. 622 00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:17,525 [EXHALES AND SNIFFLES] 623 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,955 And I've heard of other reports. 624 00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:22,959 Where there were attacks or at least alleged attacks. 625 00:34:29,099 --> 00:34:30,604 MURPHY: Ah, there is a great deal of fear 626 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,244 inherent within these particular encounters. 627 00:34:33,279 --> 00:34:38,447 It is as if a very intelligent animal 628 00:34:38,482 --> 00:34:41,747 is evaluating you. 629 00:34:41,782 --> 00:34:44,948 I've heard reports of people seeing them, 630 00:34:44,983 --> 00:34:48,787 just watching them from the trees and making no other kind of movement. 631 00:34:48,822 --> 00:34:54,397 Um, I also have taken reports from people that have claimed that they've heard them 632 00:34:54,432 --> 00:34:57,730 coming up onto the porch and trying the doorknob. 633 00:34:57,765 --> 00:35:02,636 Or, y'know, even more uncanny, trying to call them outside. 634 00:35:02,671 --> 00:35:05,309 These are the things that that raise the hackles 635 00:35:05,344 --> 00:35:07,773 on the neck and goose bumps and everything else. 636 00:35:07,808 --> 00:35:11,249 But, we are definitely dealing with not just an animal, 637 00:35:11,284 --> 00:35:12,778 we're dealing with something here 638 00:35:12,813 --> 00:35:15,011 that has a particular intelligence to it. 639 00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:18,652 MURPHY: Ah, but from all the encounters that I've... that I've taken notes on 640 00:35:18,687 --> 00:35:22,425 and the eyewitnesses I have investigated, and spoken with, 641 00:35:22,460 --> 00:35:23,954 um, it's never a pleasant encounter. 642 00:35:23,989 --> 00:35:27,155 You don't come out of this feeling enlivened in any way. 643 00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:28,464 Encounters with dogmen, 644 00:35:28,499 --> 00:35:30,598 encounters with these werewolf type beings, 645 00:35:30,633 --> 00:35:34,162 is something that, um, is the stuff of nightmares. 646 00:35:34,197 --> 00:35:35,702 Again, people have asked me, 647 00:35:35,737 --> 00:35:39,101 "What happens whenever you encounter these things?" 648 00:35:39,136 --> 00:35:41,004 Well, we really don't know, do we? 649 00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:44,513 I mean, a lot of people go missing and are never heard from again. 650 00:35:44,548 --> 00:35:47,549 So, it might have been an encounter with one of these creatures. 651 00:35:55,757 --> 00:35:57,757 [MYSTERIOUS MUSIC PLAYING] 652 00:36:09,375 --> 00:36:10,671 HENDERSON: Land Between the Lakes 653 00:36:10,706 --> 00:36:13,377 is the largest inland peninsula in America. 654 00:36:13,412 --> 00:36:15,511 And it wasn't always like that. 655 00:36:15,546 --> 00:36:18,976 It used to be a much smaller trickle of water coming through a couple of rivers. 656 00:36:19,011 --> 00:36:21,286 It used to be called, Between the Rivers. 657 00:36:21,321 --> 00:36:24,553 And for whatever reason, they flooded the areas 658 00:36:24,588 --> 00:36:27,391 and made Lake Barkley and Lake Kentucky. 659 00:36:27,426 --> 00:36:30,724 And that caused the creation of Land Between the Lakes. 660 00:36:30,759 --> 00:36:32,990 You got that large inland peninsula, in America. 661 00:36:33,025 --> 00:36:36,158 There are over 200 cemeteries in Land Between the Lakes, y'know. 662 00:36:36,193 --> 00:36:40,030 It's got, really a dark history because you know a lot of people's homes, 663 00:36:40,065 --> 00:36:43,066 when they were getting the area ready, they ran them out of their homes. 664 00:36:43,101 --> 00:36:45,376 The government threatened them in one way or another. 665 00:36:48,513 --> 00:36:52,845 There is a lot of dark history with this land, and I believe 666 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,518 there's even a lot of cemeteries that are under water now. 667 00:36:55,553 --> 00:36:58,422 You can still go across the land and find people's old homesteads, 668 00:36:58,457 --> 00:37:01,755 where you can see the evidence where they... 669 00:37:01,790 --> 00:37:05,297 they took over the area by I reckon, eminent domain. 670 00:37:07,466 --> 00:37:10,434 Since the 1700s, before they flooded everything, 671 00:37:10,469 --> 00:37:12,227 French explorers were coming through the regions, 672 00:37:12,262 --> 00:37:15,098 and they would report that there were Rougarous in the region. 673 00:37:16,002 --> 00:37:18,002 Basically a French werewolf. 674 00:37:18,037 --> 00:37:20,576 Y'know, they were very superstitious about that kind of thing back then. 675 00:37:20,611 --> 00:37:24,140 So, they probably thought there are werewolves in this area. 676 00:37:26,650 --> 00:37:29,552 Of all the Native American history here, 677 00:37:29,587 --> 00:37:31,785 I don't know of all the tribes that were here. 678 00:37:31,820 --> 00:37:33,886 But there is a legend of the Shawnee tribes, 679 00:37:33,921 --> 00:37:37,527 that there was a Shawnee medicine man, in the region, 680 00:37:37,562 --> 00:37:44,468 who was a skin walker and they blamed him for some of the werewolf incidents. 681 00:37:44,503 --> 00:37:46,569 HENDERSON: Some, something of that nature. 682 00:37:46,604 --> 00:37:49,902 What is so interesting about this particular area, 683 00:37:49,937 --> 00:37:54,379 is, this was the area of for the Woodland Indians. 684 00:37:54,414 --> 00:38:00,913 There was a wolf cult part of that culture at one time, maybe as early as 1300. 685 00:38:00,948 --> 00:38:04,279 There's instances of mounds being uncovered, 686 00:38:04,314 --> 00:38:09,361 where the entombed person was made to appear as if 687 00:38:09,396 --> 00:38:12,397 it were an amalgamation of man and wolf. 688 00:38:12,432 --> 00:38:16,324 One particular tomb had the body wrapped in furs 689 00:38:16,359 --> 00:38:20,504 and the jaw was actually dislocated and some of the teeth were removed, 690 00:38:20,539 --> 00:38:24,002 in order to place a wolf snout over it. 691 00:38:24,037 --> 00:38:27,412 What was going on in this area is really kind of strange, 692 00:38:27,447 --> 00:38:29,073 whenever you talk about this, 693 00:38:29,108 --> 00:38:32,978 this assuming of man and wolf at the same time. 694 00:38:33,013 --> 00:38:37,488 MURPHY: Because these mounds in which this culture was a part of, 695 00:38:37,523 --> 00:38:39,622 is very near to Defiance, Ohio, 696 00:38:39,657 --> 00:38:42,152 very near to Elkhorn, Wisconsin, 697 00:38:42,187 --> 00:38:47,465 and also very close to the area of Land Between the Lakes as well. 698 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:48,730 HENDERSON: It's always seemed like 699 00:38:48,765 --> 00:38:50,963 Dogman is a bit aggressive in nature, 700 00:38:50,998 --> 00:38:54,967 because you hear so many stories of people that see it and it chases them out of an area. 701 00:38:55,002 --> 00:38:59,510 Uh, but, there are multiple sightings, up from here in the region where people 702 00:38:59,545 --> 00:39:04,647 just see it run across the trail or it doesn't chase them, y'know, they'll just see it. 703 00:39:04,682 --> 00:39:06,308 HENDERSON: It seems to be there's 704 00:39:06,343 --> 00:39:08,750 a physical creature of some kind, uh, y'know. 705 00:39:08,785 --> 00:39:10,686 We find footprints in the region. 706 00:39:10,721 --> 00:39:14,591 A gentleman's seen a mother Dogman and pups run across the roads. 707 00:39:14,626 --> 00:39:18,056 So, there seems to be some kind of biological animal, in the region. 708 00:39:18,091 --> 00:39:19,563 HENDERSON: Everything that we can find, y'know. 709 00:39:19,598 --> 00:39:21,389 You have families that are physically attacked. 710 00:39:21,424 --> 00:39:27,505 And, people that come up missing, people supposedly eating upon. 711 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:30,200 It's alive, it's aggressive. It needs to eat. 712 00:39:38,749 --> 00:39:41,211 We had just moved. I was married at the time. 713 00:39:41,246 --> 00:39:43,752 And my now ex-wife, 714 00:39:43,787 --> 00:39:47,657 we had moved into this little trailer, out in the country. 715 00:39:47,692 --> 00:39:49,527 We were freshly married, 716 00:39:49,562 --> 00:39:51,254 engaged, getting ready to get married at the time. 717 00:39:51,289 --> 00:39:53,531 We got married, right as we moved in. 718 00:39:53,566 --> 00:39:55,225 BRIAN TAYLOR: And so it was our first. 719 00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:56,699 Our first place together. 720 00:39:56,734 --> 00:39:59,097 Moved in, it was peaceful and affordable 721 00:39:59,132 --> 00:40:02,001 and we were young and poor and didn't have a lot of money then. 722 00:40:02,036 --> 00:40:05,037 So it, it was in our budget. 723 00:40:05,072 --> 00:40:06,940 And we had never... 724 00:40:06,975 --> 00:40:10,438 never had any inkling going in there? 725 00:40:10,473 --> 00:40:13,342 There was none of that feeling when we were looking at the place. 726 00:40:17,722 --> 00:40:20,316 So I mean there, there was a lot of history through that area, 727 00:40:20,351 --> 00:40:24,760 but there was, no, there was... There was slavery there, there was Union occupation. 728 00:40:24,795 --> 00:40:28,423 Ah, you know, there was, there was deaths in the area, and it was very old. 729 00:40:28,458 --> 00:40:31,932 And it, it was Native American land at one point in time, too. 730 00:40:31,967 --> 00:40:35,936 And we were, we were settled in and... 731 00:40:35,971 --> 00:40:39,940 I'm guessing within, like a month, things started to get different. 732 00:40:39,975 --> 00:40:44,472 You had... During the day, it was very peaceful and serene, 733 00:40:44,507 --> 00:40:47,277 very rural, country setting. 734 00:40:47,312 --> 00:40:51,050 At night, from the time the sun went down, from dusk until about 4 a.m., 735 00:40:51,085 --> 00:40:52,887 there was just this different vibe. 736 00:40:52,922 --> 00:40:56,957 And we would, ah... 737 00:40:56,992 --> 00:40:58,629 feel this different. 738 00:40:58,664 --> 00:41:00,928 You would just walk outside and it would just initiate 739 00:41:00,963 --> 00:41:03,997 this extreme, instant fight or flight response. 740 00:41:04,032 --> 00:41:06,934 Ah... mostly flight. There was no fight 741 00:41:06,969 --> 00:41:09,497 and you just didn't want to be out there. 742 00:41:09,532 --> 00:41:16,240 Then, we would go into this... start hearing noises and scratches outside the house. 743 00:41:16,275 --> 00:41:19,045 You would see from the old cemetery in homestead, 744 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,983 which was next to where we lived. 745 00:41:23,018 --> 00:41:27,790 Ah, we started seeing red glowing eyes, and they would be seven to eight feet in the air. 746 00:41:27,825 --> 00:41:32,564 And... the shadow that you've seen was bipedal, 747 00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:36,095 and it almost looked like a... like a giant canine. 748 00:41:36,130 --> 00:41:39,934 It didn't have any, you know, human features to it. 749 00:41:39,969 --> 00:41:43,971 And seven to eight feet tall, very broad shouldered. 750 00:41:44,006 --> 00:41:49,713 And it had this, had this... canine-looking head to it. 751 00:41:49,748 --> 00:41:53,508 It didn't... you know, it just did look like a giant dog. 752 00:41:53,543 --> 00:41:59,888 And... the very first time that I... that I heard, heard anything, um... 753 00:41:59,923 --> 00:42:03,661 We had gone, gone grocery shopping on Friday night, 754 00:42:03,696 --> 00:42:07,489 gone out to eat, come home, put everything away, went to bed. 755 00:42:07,524 --> 00:42:10,734 And when we were lying in bed, and this, 756 00:42:10,769 --> 00:42:14,463 this raking of claws was going on, right outside 757 00:42:14,498 --> 00:42:18,071 outside of the house in the bedroom. 758 00:42:18,106 --> 00:42:23,978 I just, I refused to go out. We just rode it out, let it go, and... 759 00:42:24,013 --> 00:42:29,181 We went out the next morning, and the... from the area, you could hear the noise 760 00:42:29,216 --> 00:42:33,515 from what's probably, you know, seven to eight feet up off the ground. 761 00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:35,957 And, and there were no claw marks or anything, 762 00:42:35,992 --> 00:42:39,323 but we heard definitely raking of claws, the whole night long. 763 00:42:39,358 --> 00:42:43,932 And then shortly after that, ah, we were, we were in the kitchen 764 00:42:43,967 --> 00:42:46,495 and, and noticed the glowing eyes in the woods. 765 00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:49,366 And then we stepped out on the front to look and... 766 00:42:49,401 --> 00:42:53,436 And you could just see it sitting there watching and just observing us. 767 00:42:53,471 --> 00:42:56,076 And it would just do that every once in a while. 768 00:42:56,749 --> 00:42:59,508 The, the most... 769 00:42:59,543 --> 00:43:03,215 The most common thing that it did all the time was this. 770 00:43:03,250 --> 00:43:08,055 This energy that it put off, it just inundated your senses with instant fight or flight. 771 00:43:08,090 --> 00:43:12,125 And, and you could tell, the sun went down to about 4 a.m. 772 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,293 You just dealt with that. And if you went outside the house, 773 00:43:15,328 --> 00:43:17,559 it, it just overwhelmed you. 774 00:43:17,594 --> 00:43:21,629 It was very, it was the most intense thing I've ever experienced in my life. 775 00:43:21,664 --> 00:43:26,073 It would be, it didn't do this every night. It would be gone for a few days, 776 00:43:26,108 --> 00:43:27,635 and then it would come back. 777 00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:30,814 And I don't know if we were just on part of its route, 778 00:43:30,849 --> 00:43:33,443 and that whole area was its territory. 779 00:43:33,478 --> 00:43:39,823 Ah, but every time... we saw the eyes, it was always in the old homestead 780 00:43:39,858 --> 00:43:43,024 at the old family cemetery. It is where it always was. 781 00:43:46,689 --> 00:43:51,230 My now ex-wife, then she would see things. And I traveled for work, which I mostly do. 782 00:43:51,265 --> 00:43:55,872 And she had things happen while I was at... I was at work. 783 00:43:55,907 --> 00:43:58,666 And it was to the point where she was like, "We have to move. 784 00:43:58,701 --> 00:44:00,338 I can't do this anymore." 785 00:44:00,373 --> 00:44:02,109 So that's when we decided to go. 786 00:44:04,212 --> 00:44:06,751 It was extremely peaceful. 787 00:44:06,786 --> 00:44:08,984 Other than that, we didn't have anything. 788 00:44:09,019 --> 00:44:12,988 And that was the only issues we had the whole time we were there. 789 00:44:13,023 --> 00:44:15,694 But I mean, we lived there six months and it made us leave. 790 00:44:16,686 --> 00:44:18,587 It was very odd. 791 00:44:18,622 --> 00:44:22,228 It was almost like it had this ability to where it was... 792 00:44:23,968 --> 00:44:26,133 kind of real and then kind of spiritual. 793 00:44:26,168 --> 00:44:29,774 Like it, it had some, some physical attributes to it. 794 00:44:29,809 --> 00:44:34,812 But, the rest of it seemed very, very supernatural and, and paranormal. 795 00:44:54,097 --> 00:44:56,691 ANONYMOUS: I was 18 when I had my first encounter. 796 00:44:56,726 --> 00:44:58,000 I was in the Bell City swamp. 797 00:44:58,035 --> 00:45:00,134 I couldn't... I used to hunt a lot. 798 00:45:00,169 --> 00:45:03,566 Every given night available, I was out in the woods. 799 00:45:03,601 --> 00:45:07,570 And I had heard about something in the woods. 800 00:45:07,605 --> 00:45:10,177 Eighteen. Stupid. I wasn't scared much. 801 00:45:10,212 --> 00:45:12,608 Took my dogs out. 802 00:45:12,643 --> 00:45:15,985 We're having a good night. We killed five coons I think that night. 803 00:45:17,681 --> 00:45:20,385 We trailed a bobcat. Just got off it. 804 00:45:20,420 --> 00:45:22,519 We went deeper, about one in the morning. 805 00:45:24,721 --> 00:45:26,897 I should have known. We didn't hear deer. 806 00:45:26,932 --> 00:45:30,263 We didn't see deer, we didn't hear crickets. 807 00:45:30,298 --> 00:45:33,332 That's all signs of big predators in the area. I should have known. 808 00:45:35,567 --> 00:45:37,908 I had two dogs come back out of three. 809 00:45:37,943 --> 00:45:42,880 And when I say two come back, they howled past me and didn't slow down. 810 00:45:42,915 --> 00:45:45,674 And these are trained coon dogs, trained to stop. 811 00:45:45,709 --> 00:45:50,514 I was worried because the one that was missing was worth about $1500, 812 00:45:50,549 --> 00:45:52,285 and she was my prize dog. 813 00:45:53,255 --> 00:45:54,485 So I went in looking. 814 00:45:57,127 --> 00:45:58,588 A smell hit me. 815 00:46:01,296 --> 00:46:05,496 I've been around dead animals. I've been around carcasses. I know what they smell like. 816 00:46:07,269 --> 00:46:10,105 It smelled like rotting meat and a wet dog. 817 00:46:11,944 --> 00:46:14,472 The growl that coming out of this animal... 818 00:46:17,444 --> 00:46:19,081 hit me in my bones. 819 00:46:19,116 --> 00:46:22,183 Just you won't forget it if you could trust me. 820 00:46:23,252 --> 00:46:25,956 I had light touched my hat. 821 00:46:25,991 --> 00:46:30,389 When I flung it around, I hit something in the eyes 822 00:46:30,424 --> 00:46:33,458 that was standing seven and a half feet off the ground at the eyes. 823 00:46:34,494 --> 00:46:38,166 Black fur... Head like a wolf. 824 00:46:38,201 --> 00:46:39,530 Plenty of hairs on top. 825 00:46:40,797 --> 00:46:42,170 I didn't know what I was looking at. 826 00:46:43,668 --> 00:46:45,701 Here I am on the double-barrel 20 gauge. 827 00:46:46,605 --> 00:46:47,846 I'm outgunned, I know it. 828 00:46:48,871 --> 00:46:50,343 I eased away... 829 00:46:51,984 --> 00:46:53,808 backwards, trying to get away from it... 830 00:46:54,877 --> 00:46:58,747 and... it stepped off. 831 00:46:58,782 --> 00:47:01,783 like it didn't want to be in the light. 832 00:47:01,818 --> 00:47:03,323 I tried to keep my eye on it. 833 00:47:05,162 --> 00:47:07,690 And it was gone. 834 00:47:07,725 --> 00:47:11,298 I've never seen anything move that quick. I mean, it was there. It's gone. 835 00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:13,201 I took off for the truck. 836 00:47:13,236 --> 00:47:15,907 And when I got back, the truck was facing the woods. 837 00:47:17,273 --> 00:47:18,569 My dogs went back. 838 00:47:19,473 --> 00:47:22,474 They beat me to the truck. 839 00:47:22,509 --> 00:47:27,545 When I turned the headlights on to turn the truck around, it was standing in the edge. 840 00:47:27,580 --> 00:47:29,921 Like it had followed me up until I left. 841 00:47:29,956 --> 00:47:33,155 I've been around enough animals to know if it's got claws 842 00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:36,224 and it's got teeth shaped like that. It, it don't eat plants. 843 00:47:37,788 --> 00:47:40,393 It's got big canine teeth, and it's got big, sharp claws. 844 00:47:40,428 --> 00:47:43,165 It did not go around munching on blackberries. 845 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,202 My blue tip coon hound found a bloody car. 846 00:47:47,237 --> 00:47:51,437 And it was cut in three places, and it was a solid leather strap. 847 00:47:54,574 --> 00:47:55,705 Two years ago... 848 00:47:57,082 --> 00:47:58,906 the last encounter I had, 849 00:47:58,941 --> 00:48:02,448 and the one that literally made me sell my dogs and quit coon hunting. 850 00:48:04,551 --> 00:48:05,990 Dad called me. 851 00:48:06,025 --> 00:48:07,354 Wants me to train a couple pups. 852 00:48:08,819 --> 00:48:11,061 The problem, I've done it all my life. 853 00:48:11,096 --> 00:48:12,854 Okay. Run them over. 854 00:48:12,889 --> 00:48:14,559 You run it out. Run them tonight. 855 00:48:15,265 --> 00:48:17,430 We started out. 856 00:48:17,465 --> 00:48:21,104 I had old black and tan and an old red bone. 857 00:48:22,536 --> 00:48:24,305 And Dad had his two little pups. 858 00:48:25,638 --> 00:48:27,737 Dad didn't wanna go that night. 859 00:48:27,772 --> 00:48:29,981 That's fine. I'll take him. 860 00:48:30,016 --> 00:48:33,017 It started out great, I mean Bella hit. 861 00:48:33,052 --> 00:48:36,548 My black and tan, she had a trail on me. 862 00:48:36,583 --> 00:48:41,190 We're off, we're both trying to look for the ball. 863 00:48:41,225 --> 00:48:46,954 That little bit of red bone that he had on a section of horse jaw, 864 00:48:46,989 --> 00:48:51,134 I'm guessing around 6-8 inches. 865 00:48:51,169 --> 00:48:52,168 Had teeth in it. 866 00:48:53,798 --> 00:48:57,371 I felt that was kind of funny. No feelings. 867 00:48:57,406 --> 00:49:01,507 I thought it was... so I followed him. I come look... 868 00:49:02,147 --> 00:49:03,146 on... 869 00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:07,876 I think it was a whole skeleton. 870 00:49:07,911 --> 00:49:12,650 The bones were some chewed up and mutilated. 871 00:49:12,685 --> 00:49:17,127 I could make out a skull, the pelvis, some ribs, and the fingers. 872 00:49:18,328 --> 00:49:21,824 And the skull was in about 33, 34 pieces. 873 00:49:22,860 --> 00:49:24,200 That put me on alert. 874 00:49:25,368 --> 00:49:28,798 But, predators tear up bones. 875 00:49:28,833 --> 00:49:32,637 No big deal. Coyote's chew them, squirrels chew them, calcium. 876 00:49:32,672 --> 00:49:35,178 Pups wouldn't listen. I wanted to go back. 877 00:49:35,213 --> 00:49:37,906 I was not tired for the night, anyways. They didn't quit. 878 00:49:39,184 --> 00:49:40,744 My big dog was still on a trail. 879 00:49:40,779 --> 00:49:45,089 She wouldn't cut off, so I had to go in at him. 880 00:49:45,124 --> 00:49:50,358 Even farther and farther I went, the more bones I found. 881 00:49:50,393 --> 00:49:53,955 And, I come upon the pups and they were just laying on the ground. 882 00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:54,989 Flat. Just... 883 00:49:57,103 --> 00:50:03,371 Wouldn't move... The dog was between me and something in front of me. 884 00:50:04,374 --> 00:50:06,968 Growling. Bristled up. 885 00:50:07,003 --> 00:50:10,378 Snarling, acting like I've never seen her act. 886 00:50:10,413 --> 00:50:12,677 The growl that I heard that night... 887 00:50:13,581 --> 00:50:14,877 It was like you could feel it. 888 00:50:16,980 --> 00:50:18,914 It was, it came from its gut. 889 00:50:27,463 --> 00:50:29,166 I was 15 yards from it. 890 00:50:30,367 --> 00:50:32,026 It was massive. 891 00:50:35,405 --> 00:50:37,405 I was close enough when he could, 892 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,078 when he'd sniff, you could see his nose wrinkle up. 893 00:50:41,741 --> 00:50:43,708 That's way too close. 894 00:50:44,909 --> 00:50:46,546 Way too close. 895 00:50:46,581 --> 00:50:49,076 I've always been told, like most kids in Southern areas, 896 00:50:49,111 --> 00:50:52,849 "Be careful, there's Panthers in the woods and..." 897 00:50:52,884 --> 00:50:55,489 I mean, this is Western Kentucky. We don't have bear, 898 00:50:55,524 --> 00:50:58,888 but every now and then, because they wander up out of Tennessee, but... 899 00:50:58,923 --> 00:51:02,661 I've faced predators, 900 00:51:02,696 --> 00:51:07,600 most of your big game predators that you have in the States. 901 00:51:07,635 --> 00:51:11,439 These things don't act like that. You look in these thing's eyes. 902 00:51:11,474 --> 00:51:13,903 These things look like they're trying to figure you out. 903 00:51:13,938 --> 00:51:16,939 They look like they're looking through you, trying to figure out what your next move is 904 00:51:18,283 --> 00:51:19,447 so they can get around it. 905 00:51:22,045 --> 00:51:24,221 [VOICE SHAKING] I've been around predators my whole life, 906 00:51:24,256 --> 00:51:28,258 and I've never seen anything in my life like that. 907 00:51:28,293 --> 00:51:31,327 I've never seen anything look like it had enough consciousness 908 00:51:31,362 --> 00:51:32,988 to know what you might do. 909 00:51:35,663 --> 00:51:37,828 I think that scares me as much as seeing them. 910 00:51:40,162 --> 00:51:41,436 This one wasn't scared. 911 00:51:42,868 --> 00:51:44,208 This one wasn't curious. 912 00:51:46,674 --> 00:51:49,037 This one did not want me there. 913 00:51:49,072 --> 00:51:54,284 You would come up closer. 914 00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:58,618 When I cooned, I carried a double-barrel 410 and a double-barrel 20 gauge. 915 00:51:58,653 --> 00:52:01,522 Double-barreled 410. Double-hammered old gun. 916 00:52:02,228 --> 00:52:04,591 And a .357 pistol. 917 00:52:04,626 --> 00:52:07,759 The fact that my coon dog never moved 918 00:52:07,794 --> 00:52:09,530 didn't even faze this animal. 919 00:52:11,666 --> 00:52:13,798 She might as well been to a piss and come along now. 920 00:52:14,768 --> 00:52:15,998 It walked... 921 00:52:17,837 --> 00:52:21,069 In a semi-circle around me like a predatory move would. 922 00:52:23,447 --> 00:52:26,877 At this point, I pretty much know. [SIGHS] 923 00:52:26,912 --> 00:52:29,110 It came over, done. 924 00:52:32,522 --> 00:52:36,623 He got three quarter of the way around me... 925 00:52:36,658 --> 00:52:41,694 in the loudest, deepest howl I've ever heard that come from deeper in the swamp. 926 00:52:44,226 --> 00:52:45,797 His ears perked up. 927 00:52:48,032 --> 00:52:51,407 And it was like I wasn't even there at that point. 928 00:52:51,442 --> 00:52:52,705 He held back. 929 00:52:55,072 --> 00:52:58,909 He acknowledged me by roaring at me so loud, I ain't even gonna lie. 930 00:53:00,913 --> 00:53:04,288 I pissed my pants that night. It scared me so bad. 931 00:53:05,588 --> 00:53:07,324 So I just threw the shotgun up. 932 00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:11,361 Well, at least I might get blood. 933 00:53:11,396 --> 00:53:16,663 When I threw the barrels up, he cleared the bushes behind him that were probably 934 00:53:16,698 --> 00:53:19,699 six, seven foot... and was gone. 935 00:53:20,570 --> 00:53:21,635 Foot towards the hell. 936 00:53:23,573 --> 00:53:26,871 I come home that night. I sold 17 dogs the next morning. 937 00:53:29,447 --> 00:53:32,382 I sold all my gear except my coon hunting light. 938 00:53:34,177 --> 00:53:37,321 And the only time I go out now in the dark, if I'm hunting 939 00:53:37,356 --> 00:53:39,521 is if I'm around ponds and hunting frogs. 940 00:53:40,557 --> 00:53:42,557 I do not go near that swamp at night. 941 00:53:42,592 --> 00:53:44,559 I'll go during the day. 942 00:53:44,594 --> 00:53:46,528 I will not go at night. 943 00:53:46,563 --> 00:53:49,828 The reason I wanted to stay anonymous is I've had people tell me I'm crazy. 944 00:53:49,863 --> 00:53:51,093 I've had people tell me... 945 00:53:52,261 --> 00:53:55,031 I'm drinking too much, doing drugs. 946 00:53:56,298 --> 00:53:57,440 Lyin'. 947 00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:58,903 No. 948 00:53:59,609 --> 00:54:01,345 They're real. 949 00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:03,006 Science might not have found them. But... 950 00:54:04,779 --> 00:54:05,811 don't mean nothing. 951 00:54:07,045 --> 00:54:08,484 They stay hidden for a reason. 952 00:54:18,254 --> 00:54:20,056 My name is Martin Groves. 953 00:54:21,631 --> 00:54:27,195 I had an incident in the 1990s spring turkey season, 954 00:54:27,230 --> 00:54:29,736 that kind of connected me to the area. 955 00:54:29,771 --> 00:54:32,772 I'm a retired police officer of 32 years. 956 00:54:32,807 --> 00:54:35,808 I've been with a local, rural sheriff's department 957 00:54:35,843 --> 00:54:38,811 of which I have now since retired. 958 00:54:38,846 --> 00:54:42,111 Uh, but I was with the department for many years, 959 00:54:42,146 --> 00:54:48,656 and a uniformed patrol officer. Coming from a... a... a police background, 960 00:54:48,691 --> 00:54:52,121 ah, it's going to ruffle a lot of... a lot of feathers. 961 00:54:52,156 --> 00:54:56,664 The only reason why I've even come forward at this point is one, I have retired, 962 00:54:56,699 --> 00:55:01,438 and I don't really care what people think of me or what will be said. 963 00:55:01,473 --> 00:55:03,968 I feel like there is something within that park... 964 00:55:06,302 --> 00:55:08,335 animal or beast, 965 00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:11,305 that is a danger to the public. 966 00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:16,849 I was told that this would be very detrimental to any tourism 967 00:55:16,884 --> 00:55:21,150 and to anything that any public reports coming out 968 00:55:21,185 --> 00:55:23,922 that there was any kind of animals eating people. 969 00:55:23,957 --> 00:55:26,155 Or attacking people within the park. 970 00:55:26,190 --> 00:55:29,224 And there has been a long time, 971 00:55:29,259 --> 00:55:32,964 standing, unwritten rule 972 00:55:32,999 --> 00:55:40,004 that they control the reports that come outside the parks because of this. 973 00:55:40,039 --> 00:55:43,876 In the '70s, there was a group of kids 974 00:55:43,911 --> 00:55:46,615 that disappeared up there, then Land Between the Lakes. 975 00:55:46,650 --> 00:55:48,650 They heard a bunch of screaming and... 976 00:55:48,685 --> 00:55:50,850 when the other group came up to them, 977 00:55:50,885 --> 00:55:53,050 they disappeared, never to be seen again. 978 00:55:53,085 --> 00:55:58,528 1979. That was over around Willow Bay, the members bay area. 979 00:55:58,563 --> 00:56:01,729 There was a gentleman. He worked in Kentucky Fish and Game. 980 00:56:01,764 --> 00:56:06,393 He said that he witnessed a Dogman jump on a couple that was camping there 981 00:56:06,428 --> 00:56:08,065 along the shoreline, 982 00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,474 held them down with its hands and biting plugs out of them, 983 00:56:10,509 --> 00:56:14,907 and they were able to confirm his employment through the state and what not. 984 00:56:14,942 --> 00:56:20,682 Ah, you got the famed 1982 attack of the family that was slaughtered very terrible. 985 00:56:20,717 --> 00:56:25,885 There's multiple variations of the story, but largely they have retained the same way. 986 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,284 So that story boiled down to its most basic form, 987 00:56:29,319 --> 00:56:31,957 is a family of four, came down to the Land Between the Lakes. 988 00:56:31,992 --> 00:56:34,894 They were either in a travel trailer or an RV. 989 00:56:34,929 --> 00:56:37,930 And they came down to do some camping up at the northern end 990 00:56:37,965 --> 00:56:40,295 of Land Between the Lakes, while they were, I guess, 991 00:56:40,330 --> 00:56:42,297 getting set up and everything ready. 992 00:56:42,332 --> 00:56:46,400 A Dogman came up and literally slaughtered the family. 993 00:56:50,307 --> 00:56:53,275 Just dispatched them in a grisly manner. 994 00:56:53,310 --> 00:56:56,916 People came back through, cops, ah... 995 00:56:56,951 --> 00:57:01,657 The government in some form, hikers and they found the family dead. 996 00:57:01,692 --> 00:57:04,220 They found three bodies, but they couldn't find the little girl. 997 00:57:04,255 --> 00:57:06,354 Anyway, there was a little girl along with them. 998 00:57:06,389 --> 00:57:09,456 And they eventually found her either up in the top of a tree 999 00:57:09,491 --> 00:57:12,635 or somewhere about 100 feet away from the RV. 1000 00:57:12,670 --> 00:57:15,132 There is a little bit of contention on that. 1001 00:57:15,167 --> 00:57:19,004 It has become a famous story of the region, now almost teetering on urban legend. 1002 00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:21,809 And you can even find evidence that it happened because 1003 00:57:21,844 --> 00:57:24,372 the spot where it allegedly took place, 1004 00:57:24,407 --> 00:57:28,475 you can find where the light poles are cut even to the ground. 1005 00:57:28,510 --> 00:57:30,587 You can find the old RV slips. 1006 00:57:30,622 --> 00:57:33,656 You can find the old foundations for the bathhouses. 1007 00:57:33,691 --> 00:57:36,153 Something seemed to have taken place there. 1008 00:57:36,188 --> 00:57:38,793 You can find the old, the boundary stakes. 1009 00:57:38,828 --> 00:57:41,389 It really looks like something happened. 1010 00:57:41,424 --> 00:57:42,456 And then... 1011 00:57:43,635 --> 00:57:46,999 some government crew or the park came in, 1012 00:57:47,034 --> 00:57:49,397 tore it all up and let nature retake itself. 1013 00:57:51,907 --> 00:57:57,207 You can tell that, for once some reason they wanted to do away with this area. 1014 00:57:57,242 --> 00:58:00,309 And that, that's the most famous story from up there. 1015 00:58:00,344 --> 00:58:03,950 The next famous would probably be, there was a bow hunter up there 1016 00:58:03,985 --> 00:58:07,151 whose body was found dead and I haven't found them yet. 1017 00:58:07,186 --> 00:58:10,924 But supposedly there are documents showing he was found in the park. 1018 00:58:10,959 --> 00:58:13,696 He was dead. It was all factual. 1019 00:58:13,731 --> 00:58:16,699 When they found his body in a soybean field over 1020 00:58:16,734 --> 00:58:19,636 around where we camp a lot, Dark Hollow. 1021 00:58:19,671 --> 00:58:20,901 His body was fed upon. 1022 00:58:24,104 --> 00:58:27,611 I'm going to be very respectful because of the family 1023 00:58:27,646 --> 00:58:29,580 that, uh, suffered a loss. 1024 00:58:30,242 --> 00:58:31,472 A hunter was killed... 1025 00:58:32,442 --> 00:58:34,475 and was mauled to death. 1026 00:58:34,510 --> 00:58:39,183 But the official report says it was a unknown animal. 1027 00:58:39,218 --> 00:58:40,558 Unknown species. 1028 00:58:41,418 --> 00:58:43,693 The reports... 1029 00:58:43,728 --> 00:58:46,993 that I have read, and what I have been told 1030 00:58:47,028 --> 00:58:51,030 is that the animal was either a cougar or a bear, 1031 00:58:51,065 --> 00:58:53,230 that had ripped the man out of his tent. 1032 00:58:53,265 --> 00:58:56,002 And had consumed him and pulled his body 1033 00:58:56,037 --> 00:58:58,906 three to four hundred yards away from the tent. 1034 00:58:58,941 --> 00:59:04,241 It is my belief that I actually had met this man the day before 1035 00:59:04,276 --> 00:59:07,145 while I was out and was scouting. 1036 00:59:07,180 --> 00:59:09,213 And I do not know if it was or not. 1037 00:59:09,248 --> 00:59:14,053 I do know that the man that I met was in the same immediate area, 1038 00:59:14,088 --> 00:59:16,660 and I observed his pickup truck. 1039 00:59:16,695 --> 00:59:20,026 And there's just too many indications to me that I believe 1040 00:59:20,061 --> 00:59:21,698 that the man that I met 1041 00:59:21,733 --> 00:59:24,261 is the same man that was pulled out of his tent and eaten. 1042 00:59:28,003 --> 00:59:31,708 One of the common things when you're researching Dogman is, it is strange. 1043 00:59:31,743 --> 00:59:33,138 Toward the northern end of the parks 1044 00:59:33,173 --> 00:59:35,536 where they are at, you'll find Dogman activity. 1045 00:59:35,571 --> 00:59:37,879 But to the southern end, you find Bigfoot activity. 1046 00:59:37,914 --> 00:59:40,607 Dogmen in the North, Bigfoot in the South. 1047 00:59:40,642 --> 00:59:45,051 So it does seem in some ways, there is a, a territorial aspect to it. 1048 00:59:45,086 --> 00:59:49,286 I don't know. It could be hungry, aggressive predator, could be territory. 1049 00:59:49,321 --> 00:59:51,662 Ah, there's a lot of factors that could be at play. 1050 00:59:53,556 --> 00:59:58,262 In the spring of, I believe it was 1993-94, 1051 00:59:58,297 --> 01:00:02,233 a hunting partner and myself... 1052 01:00:02,268 --> 01:00:05,104 A friend that I actually worked at the sheriff's office with, 1053 01:00:05,139 --> 01:00:07,909 had decided to take a trip 1054 01:00:07,944 --> 01:00:10,439 into Land Between the Lakes for turkey hunting. 1055 01:00:11,277 --> 01:00:12,749 The first night we came in, 1056 01:00:12,784 --> 01:00:16,643 we had absolutely no problems whatsoever. 1057 01:00:16,678 --> 01:00:21,285 The next day, we both got up and decided to take 1058 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,421 a small excursion, searching for birds, 1059 01:00:25,456 --> 01:00:27,764 and we went our separate ways. 1060 01:00:27,799 --> 01:00:32,901 We had a very nice game trail to follow, 1061 01:00:32,936 --> 01:00:36,905 and I followed for miles and throughout the entire day. 1062 01:00:36,940 --> 01:00:39,842 At this point in the late afternoon, 1063 01:00:41,010 --> 01:00:43,813 I had a... 1064 01:00:43,848 --> 01:00:48,411 feeling that I was being followed inside the woods. 1065 01:00:48,446 --> 01:00:50,985 Behind me I could hear movement, 1066 01:00:51,020 --> 01:00:53,449 and I could feel a presence 1067 01:00:53,484 --> 01:00:57,651 that I did not know if it was animal or if it was man. 1068 01:00:57,686 --> 01:01:01,127 Being an avid hunter, I was very observant. 1069 01:01:01,162 --> 01:01:03,932 Two to 300 yards behind me, 1070 01:01:03,967 --> 01:01:05,296 on the trail behind me, 1071 01:01:05,331 --> 01:01:07,870 I could see movement in the woods. 1072 01:01:07,905 --> 01:01:11,038 I continued through the woods for some time, 1073 01:01:11,073 --> 01:01:15,878 and followed the game trail, edging my way back to my camp. 1074 01:01:15,913 --> 01:01:19,376 When I did actually catch movement in the woods 1075 01:01:19,411 --> 01:01:20,784 and I could see 1076 01:01:20,819 --> 01:01:23,952 that there was two, or possibly three animals 1077 01:01:23,987 --> 01:01:26,823 that was tailing me, but when I would stop, 1078 01:01:26,858 --> 01:01:29,188 the movement would stop in the woods. 1079 01:01:29,223 --> 01:01:30,717 I continued on, 1080 01:01:30,752 --> 01:01:33,027 and as I've become closer to my camp, 1081 01:01:34,591 --> 01:01:39,495 I could hear a distinct knock in the woods, 1082 01:01:39,530 --> 01:01:44,874 and it would be a large boom, 1083 01:01:44,909 --> 01:01:49,571 like someone had taken an axe or something up against a tree. 1084 01:01:49,606 --> 01:01:53,542 So, at that point, I believed it was my hunting partner 1085 01:01:53,577 --> 01:01:55,610 and I was getting closer to camp. 1086 01:01:55,645 --> 01:01:58,052 As I got closer to camp, 1087 01:01:58,087 --> 01:02:02,518 is when I first observed what I believe to be 1088 01:02:02,553 --> 01:02:06,324 a man in a ghillie suit. 1089 01:02:06,359 --> 01:02:07,864 So I just wrote it off, 1090 01:02:07,899 --> 01:02:10,559 you know, I'm a, I'm on a hot trail. 1091 01:02:10,594 --> 01:02:12,561 I just need to get back to camp. 1092 01:02:12,596 --> 01:02:15,597 Somebody is watching me to the west of me, 1093 01:02:15,632 --> 01:02:18,402 and somebody's coming in on a game trail behind me 1094 01:02:18,437 --> 01:02:20,437 that's an animal. 1095 01:02:20,472 --> 01:02:22,472 Something was just tagging me. 1096 01:02:23,882 --> 01:02:25,882 I finally did make it back to camp. 1097 01:02:25,917 --> 01:02:30,315 The closer I began getting to my camp, I heard whistles. 1098 01:02:31,857 --> 01:02:33,747 I could hear a whistle 1099 01:02:33,782 --> 01:02:38,620 that was human-like, that was a shrill whistle. 1100 01:02:38,655 --> 01:02:40,930 I attributed a lot of these things 1101 01:02:40,965 --> 01:02:43,966 to, 'this is my hunting partner back in camp.' 1102 01:02:44,001 --> 01:02:45,902 'He's knocking something.' 1103 01:02:45,937 --> 01:02:48,905 'He's whistling, trying to get me to come in, 1104 01:02:48,940 --> 01:02:50,797 'so, I came in to camp.' 1105 01:02:50,832 --> 01:02:53,140 And immediately when I come in to camp, 1106 01:02:53,175 --> 01:02:55,945 my friend that I have known for many years, 1107 01:02:55,980 --> 01:02:57,738 I could tell was very shook. 1108 01:02:57,773 --> 01:03:01,742 There was something not right with my hunting partner, 1109 01:03:01,777 --> 01:03:04,316 and I said, look, I'm sorry I've been gone. 1110 01:03:04,351 --> 01:03:08,320 He said, "It's not that. I was a little bit worried about you, 1111 01:03:08,355 --> 01:03:12,192 "but there is something around the camp". 1112 01:03:13,657 --> 01:03:16,064 That's when he broke down and told me, 1113 01:03:16,099 --> 01:03:18,000 he said, "I've been hearing whistles 1114 01:03:18,035 --> 01:03:22,499 and there is something hitting a tree, 1115 01:03:22,534 --> 01:03:27,977 or there is maybe rocks being clampered against the ground. 1116 01:03:28,012 --> 01:03:30,474 He did not know either. 1117 01:03:30,509 --> 01:03:32,982 We settled in, we talked around the campfire. 1118 01:03:33,017 --> 01:03:36,183 It got dark at this point. 1119 01:03:36,218 --> 01:03:39,021 When it gets dark at Land Between the Lakes, 1120 01:03:39,056 --> 01:03:41,485 it is dark. 1121 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,125 There's no car lights, there's no street lights. 1122 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,557 It is as if you were in the 1700 or 1800s. 1123 01:03:50,496 --> 01:03:52,463 We felt like we were being pressured 1124 01:03:52,498 --> 01:03:54,465 to get out of the camp, 1125 01:03:54,500 --> 01:03:57,270 and this is when the activity began. 1126 01:03:57,305 --> 01:03:59,833 All that was illuminated, was our campfire, 1127 01:04:00,572 --> 01:04:02,880 and our kerosene lamp. 1128 01:04:03,872 --> 01:04:05,674 So we had a period of... 1129 01:04:05,709 --> 01:04:09,546 a distance of 15 to 20 feet at maximum 1130 01:04:09,581 --> 01:04:11,449 around the camp that would be illuminated, 1131 01:04:11,484 --> 01:04:14,023 and then we would see shadows. 1132 01:04:14,058 --> 01:04:19,490 And I noticed what I believed to be a man behind a tree. 1133 01:04:19,525 --> 01:04:22,856 It looked as if a person was standing behind the tree, 1134 01:04:22,891 --> 01:04:24,396 very large tree. 1135 01:04:24,431 --> 01:04:26,101 At that point, we were locked in. 1136 01:04:26,136 --> 01:04:29,797 We were not going to be made to move by anything or anybody. 1137 01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:32,140 This was our camp. 1138 01:04:32,175 --> 01:04:34,175 We're staying and we're gonna hunt here. 1139 01:04:35,937 --> 01:04:40,742 A small limb or tree, piece of a tree 1140 01:04:40,777 --> 01:04:43,316 come flying off the top of the cliff 1141 01:04:43,351 --> 01:04:45,285 that was raised above us. 1142 01:04:45,881 --> 01:04:47,518 The rock came, 1143 01:04:47,553 --> 01:04:51,225 and when the rock comes so close to in between us, 1144 01:04:51,260 --> 01:04:54,426 we were standing within five to ten foot of each other, 1145 01:04:56,859 --> 01:04:58,760 we started getting scared. 1146 01:05:00,797 --> 01:05:04,139 At one point, Harry told me that... 1147 01:05:04,174 --> 01:05:07,076 maybe we should get our firearms, 1148 01:05:07,111 --> 01:05:11,410 and, so he set his shotgun closer to him. 1149 01:05:11,445 --> 01:05:14,215 My shotgun was laying on the ground, 1150 01:05:14,250 --> 01:05:17,614 but I had a sidearm on me. 1151 01:05:17,649 --> 01:05:19,451 So, I kind of felt confident. 1152 01:05:22,555 --> 01:05:26,524 You have to imagine the darkness and how dark that it was, 1153 01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:29,263 and how limited vision was for us. 1154 01:05:32,532 --> 01:05:34,862 We began to get a growl 1155 01:05:34,897 --> 01:05:38,932 from where the person or persons were standing. 1156 01:05:38,967 --> 01:05:44,377 The growl was so intense, that it vibrated in my chest, 1157 01:05:44,412 --> 01:05:46,445 and within my partner's chest. 1158 01:05:47,580 --> 01:05:49,151 It was like a vibration. 1159 01:05:49,186 --> 01:05:52,055 It was not like a growl I had ever heard in my life from... 1160 01:05:52,849 --> 01:05:53,947 I've been around bears, 1161 01:05:53,982 --> 01:05:57,027 I've been around pigs, charging boars. 1162 01:05:57,062 --> 01:06:00,195 I've been around all different kinds of animals. 1163 01:06:00,230 --> 01:06:02,857 This was a growl like I had never heard. 1164 01:06:04,465 --> 01:06:07,994 All my life, I've been trained not to be afraid. 1165 01:06:08,029 --> 01:06:12,372 I've been trained to attack anything that comes into vision 1166 01:06:12,407 --> 01:06:14,770 if you perceive it to be a danger, 1167 01:06:14,805 --> 01:06:18,004 I could not do anything. It just is... 1168 01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:21,744 It was as if I was this child and I was five years old, 1169 01:06:21,779 --> 01:06:24,054 and I was scared of a monster in the dark, 1170 01:06:24,089 --> 01:06:30,852 and I noticed that my partner was totally frozen. 1171 01:06:30,887 --> 01:06:32,491 He was not moving. 1172 01:06:32,526 --> 01:06:34,163 He was breathing fast. 1173 01:06:35,892 --> 01:06:38,266 At one point I've seen his shoulders slump, 1174 01:06:39,170 --> 01:06:41,830 and he was not feeling well. 1175 01:06:42,701 --> 01:06:45,306 All time had frozen. 1176 01:06:45,341 --> 01:06:49,640 Everything had just... like it had become stilled, 1177 01:06:49,675 --> 01:06:56,350 and it It was just a low, intense feeling that I had. 1178 01:06:56,385 --> 01:07:00,222 Out of the left side of my peripheral vision, 1179 01:07:00,950 --> 01:07:03,126 I saw movement. 1180 01:07:03,161 --> 01:07:07,394 At this point I made a physical move, 1181 01:07:07,429 --> 01:07:09,660 and once I took a step, 1182 01:07:09,695 --> 01:07:13,268 I felt like I could... I just gained, like, my freedom, 1183 01:07:15,371 --> 01:07:16,931 and I pulled my firearm. 1184 01:07:16,966 --> 01:07:20,033 I turned my shoulders to face the object 1185 01:07:20,068 --> 01:07:23,080 that I caught in my peripheral vision. 1186 01:07:24,149 --> 01:07:27,007 I faced... I looked forward, 1187 01:07:27,042 --> 01:07:31,682 and I could see what I knew was not a man. 1188 01:07:31,717 --> 01:07:36,258 I knew that it was not an animal I had ever seen, 1189 01:07:37,558 --> 01:07:40,229 and it was coming towards me. 1190 01:07:40,264 --> 01:07:42,957 In the glow of the campfire 1191 01:07:42,992 --> 01:07:46,499 and the glow of my kerosene lamp, 1192 01:07:46,534 --> 01:07:51,768 I caught what I felt was an upright walking... 1193 01:07:51,803 --> 01:07:55,068 It was not bear. It was like a wolf. 1194 01:07:55,103 --> 01:07:59,776 It was large, it was huge. It was still walking towards me. 1195 01:07:59,811 --> 01:08:04,583 I've discharged my weapon in its direction two times. 1196 01:08:04,618 --> 01:08:06,288 You have to imagine 1197 01:08:06,323 --> 01:08:09,819 when you fire a gun at nighttime, 1198 01:08:09,854 --> 01:08:12,921 that you have an effect 1199 01:08:12,956 --> 01:08:15,561 of almost like a camera going off, 1200 01:08:15,596 --> 01:08:18,058 and that camera instills something in your brain, 1201 01:08:18,093 --> 01:08:20,764 so, I have this image. 1202 01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:24,603 instilled in my head of when the flash went out. 1203 01:08:26,277 --> 01:08:28,706 And the animal... 1204 01:08:30,644 --> 01:08:33,447 It was like it responded to the firearm. 1205 01:08:33,482 --> 01:08:35,075 It was intelligent. 1206 01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:37,286 It knew that that... 1207 01:08:37,321 --> 01:08:40,850 firearm was dangerous to it, because it reacted, 1208 01:08:40,885 --> 01:08:44,260 it moved and it went backwards before I fired. 1209 01:08:44,295 --> 01:08:47,725 It is as if it could jump and leap 1210 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,201 beyond any human understanding. 1211 01:08:51,236 --> 01:08:53,269 It jumped to the rock face 1212 01:08:53,304 --> 01:08:55,832 that was beside of it, 1213 01:08:55,867 --> 01:08:59,572 and in an instant was... it was gone. 1214 01:08:59,607 --> 01:09:03,675 It disappeared and went over the ridge above us. 1215 01:09:03,710 --> 01:09:06,480 When I fired my weapon, 1216 01:09:06,515 --> 01:09:10,385 my hunting partner behind me discharged his firearm, 1217 01:09:10,420 --> 01:09:12,948 in the opposite direction of me. 1218 01:09:12,983 --> 01:09:14,554 I am screaming at this point. 1219 01:09:14,589 --> 01:09:16,985 I'm screaming, I don't even know what I'm saying, 1220 01:09:17,020 --> 01:09:19,757 but it's time to back up to the truck 1221 01:09:19,792 --> 01:09:23,992 where we were parked, and I began to cover above me. 1222 01:09:24,027 --> 01:09:27,127 I covered to the left of me, and he's walking, 1223 01:09:27,162 --> 01:09:28,667 and we're walking behind us. 1224 01:09:30,671 --> 01:09:32,275 As we get to the truck, 1225 01:09:32,310 --> 01:09:35,377 I jump up into the back-end of the pickup truck. 1226 01:09:35,412 --> 01:09:39,139 He gets in, cranks the vehicle. I am standing in the back 1227 01:09:39,174 --> 01:09:44,045 of the pickup truck, the lights, flow towards a field 1228 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,179 that was in front of us. 1229 01:09:46,214 --> 01:09:47,752 Directly in front of me... 1230 01:09:48,986 --> 01:09:53,692 were two huge figures, creatures. 1231 01:09:53,727 --> 01:09:57,564 I believe that what was stalking me in the woods, 1232 01:09:57,599 --> 01:10:03,196 I believe that whatever I fired at to the left of my camp, 1233 01:10:03,231 --> 01:10:08,234 was what people refer to as a Dogman. 1234 01:10:08,269 --> 01:10:11,138 But I know what was in the headlights of that truck, 1235 01:10:11,173 --> 01:10:13,173 was not the same creature, 1236 01:10:13,208 --> 01:10:17,320 because it towered at least another two or three foot taller 1237 01:10:17,355 --> 01:10:20,422 than the animals that I had seen in my camp. 1238 01:10:20,457 --> 01:10:23,722 These were two very large creatures, 1239 01:10:23,757 --> 01:10:25,394 and I realized that one of them 1240 01:10:25,429 --> 01:10:28,925 was the exact thing that I had seen in the distance, 1241 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,433 that I believed to be a man in a ghillie suit, 1242 01:10:31,468 --> 01:10:33,666 and it was not a man in a ghillie suit. 1243 01:10:33,701 --> 01:10:35,899 It was not a bear. 1244 01:10:35,934 --> 01:10:40,134 It was on two legs, bipedal. 1245 01:10:40,169 --> 01:10:43,775 That's what I believe was whistling the entire time 1246 01:10:43,810 --> 01:10:46,107 that I had heard in the woods. 1247 01:10:46,142 --> 01:10:48,879 That's what my partner had heard whistling, 1248 01:10:48,914 --> 01:10:52,146 were the two figures that I observed in the field 1249 01:10:52,181 --> 01:10:53,620 in front of me. 1250 01:10:53,655 --> 01:10:55,391 Were they working 1251 01:10:55,426 --> 01:10:57,250 with the other animals? 1252 01:10:57,285 --> 01:10:58,251 I just say the words. 1253 01:10:58,286 --> 01:11:00,891 Were they working with the Dogman? 1254 01:11:00,926 --> 01:11:03,091 Were they guiding the Dogman, 1255 01:11:03,126 --> 01:11:08,734 or were there... Were the two large creatures 1256 01:11:08,769 --> 01:11:10,670 there to protect me? 1257 01:11:10,705 --> 01:11:12,199 I do not know. 1258 01:11:12,234 --> 01:11:15,103 My partner fires up the pickup truck, 1259 01:11:15,138 --> 01:11:18,304 and we speed out of the area. 1260 01:11:18,339 --> 01:11:23,243 As I turn around behind me, something was tearing my... 1261 01:11:23,278 --> 01:11:26,114 our camp completely to pieces. 1262 01:11:30,494 --> 01:11:33,495 HENDERSON: There are Bigfoot stories from the region. 1263 01:11:33,530 --> 01:11:35,464 There's supposedly a large, aggressive Bigfoot 1264 01:11:35,499 --> 01:11:37,059 in Land Between the Lakes. 1265 01:11:37,094 --> 01:11:40,260 It just goes wherever it wants. They've nicknamed it Stonefoot. 1266 01:11:40,295 --> 01:11:42,405 And, we even have found 1267 01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:44,539 Bigfoot tracks up towards the north, 1268 01:11:44,574 --> 01:11:47,102 close to around the site where the family was attacked. 1269 01:11:47,137 --> 01:11:49,038 So, they are in the park. 1270 01:11:51,306 --> 01:11:53,482 GROVES: We stopped and we attempted to report 1271 01:11:53,517 --> 01:11:55,979 what took place with us, 1272 01:11:56,014 --> 01:12:00,852 and we were told that we had overreacted, 1273 01:12:00,887 --> 01:12:04,724 that we had observed what they said was a rogue bear. 1274 01:12:04,759 --> 01:12:07,188 There are things that I will not say on camera. 1275 01:12:07,223 --> 01:12:10,158 People that I've spoken with over the years. 1276 01:12:10,193 --> 01:12:11,533 You have to understand 1277 01:12:11,568 --> 01:12:14,899 that the law enforcement field is a tight brethren. 1278 01:12:14,934 --> 01:12:17,968 There is a unwritten rule that you will not talk 1279 01:12:18,003 --> 01:12:20,267 of anything coming out of the park. 1280 01:12:20,302 --> 01:12:22,038 I mean, these guys have pensions, 1281 01:12:22,073 --> 01:12:23,710 these guys have family. 1282 01:12:23,745 --> 01:12:27,340 Can you imagine working for somewhere for 20 or 30 years 1283 01:12:27,375 --> 01:12:29,078 and you are called into the office 1284 01:12:29,113 --> 01:12:31,344 and you are told that, due to the fact 1285 01:12:31,379 --> 01:12:33,280 you spoke in public about an incident 1286 01:12:33,315 --> 01:12:36,019 that took place, that you're fired? 1287 01:12:36,054 --> 01:12:39,220 I believe it's entirely possible that they cover stuff like that. 1288 01:12:39,255 --> 01:12:41,662 They'd lose a lot of money if people learned 1289 01:12:41,697 --> 01:12:43,697 that there was something that looked like a werewolf 1290 01:12:43,732 --> 01:12:46,392 wandering through the park, or possibly even Bigfoot. 1291 01:12:46,427 --> 01:12:47,767 They'd lose a lot of money. 1292 01:12:47,802 --> 01:12:51,804 So, if one person disappears, or a few people, 1293 01:12:51,839 --> 01:12:53,905 wouldn't it be for them, 1294 01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:55,401 wouldn't it be the most profitable decision 1295 01:12:55,436 --> 01:12:56,677 to just cover it up and make it look 1296 01:12:56,712 --> 01:12:58,481 like something never happened? 1297 01:12:58,516 --> 01:13:01,011 At this point, there are many people 1298 01:13:01,046 --> 01:13:04,080 that have went missing, or have come up, 1299 01:13:04,115 --> 01:13:07,413 they've been found dead within the park. 1300 01:13:07,448 --> 01:13:10,350 And this is a phenomenon that it is not contained 1301 01:13:10,385 --> 01:13:12,528 to Land Between the Lakes. 1302 01:13:12,563 --> 01:13:15,696 This has taken place in a lot of our national parks. 1303 01:13:15,731 --> 01:13:18,391 It is a very scary thought that the general public 1304 01:13:18,426 --> 01:13:20,602 is tourism. 1305 01:13:20,637 --> 01:13:23,737 To a certain extent, the general public is unarmed 1306 01:13:23,772 --> 01:13:25,541 when they enter these parks, 1307 01:13:25,576 --> 01:13:29,941 unable to defend themselves against anything, man or beast. 1308 01:13:32,616 --> 01:13:34,209 From all the encounters 1309 01:13:34,244 --> 01:13:35,782 that I have talked to people with, 1310 01:13:35,817 --> 01:13:38,653 it's just not simply encountering 1311 01:13:38,688 --> 01:13:40,556 an animal out there. 1312 01:13:40,591 --> 01:13:41,821 There are earth lights 1313 01:13:41,856 --> 01:13:43,383 often attached to these sightings. 1314 01:13:43,418 --> 01:13:47,288 There are feelings of dread associated with this. 1315 01:13:47,323 --> 01:13:50,698 In my opinion, what we were dealing with here 1316 01:13:50,733 --> 01:13:54,801 is not a human simply shape-shifting into an animal, 1317 01:13:54,836 --> 01:13:57,463 or some sort of uncatalogued creature 1318 01:13:57,498 --> 01:13:59,707 that is roaming the wilds of America 1319 01:13:59,742 --> 01:14:02,270 that has yet to be categorized by science. 1320 01:14:02,305 --> 01:14:04,305 I think there is something here 1321 01:14:04,340 --> 01:14:07,913 that is far beyond our knowledge. 1322 01:14:07,948 --> 01:14:12,478 It appears as if these creatures are coming from another source, 1323 01:14:12,513 --> 01:14:14,447 and they bleed into our world, 1324 01:14:14,482 --> 01:14:16,790 or we bleed into their world, or what have you. 1325 01:14:16,825 --> 01:14:20,321 There almost has to be an unspoken agreement 1326 01:14:20,356 --> 01:14:23,258 between the person that is witnessing these creatures, 1327 01:14:23,293 --> 01:14:24,930 and the creatures themselves. 1328 01:14:24,965 --> 01:14:27,999 It seems there is some sort of exchange of energy going on, 1329 01:14:28,034 --> 01:14:30,331 and for these things to manifest themselves, 1330 01:14:30,366 --> 01:14:32,267 they would need your energy 1331 01:14:32,302 --> 01:14:35,270 to feed off, to make almost a circuit 1332 01:14:35,305 --> 01:14:36,843 in which everything is fired up, 1333 01:14:36,878 --> 01:14:39,615 and then these things can then appear 1334 01:14:39,650 --> 01:14:41,375 and manifest within our reality. 1335 01:14:48,021 --> 01:14:50,351 LEUTHOLD: It bothered me for years. 1336 01:14:50,386 --> 01:14:53,090 I'm not saying that I had post-traumatic stress. 1337 01:14:53,125 --> 01:14:54,630 I'm not saying that, 1338 01:14:54,665 --> 01:14:56,192 but I know that every time 1339 01:14:56,227 --> 01:14:59,162 I walked out of my house at night, 1340 01:14:59,197 --> 01:15:02,462 I was always had this fear 1341 01:15:02,497 --> 01:15:04,299 of what's lurking behind the house. 1342 01:15:04,334 --> 01:15:05,575 What could be under the car? 1343 01:15:05,610 --> 01:15:07,368 What could be behind that bush, 1344 01:15:07,403 --> 01:15:10,140 because in the back of my mind, it's always there. 1345 01:15:10,175 --> 01:15:11,647 It could be there. 1346 01:15:11,682 --> 01:15:13,242 And the other thing that really kind of stuck out to me, 1347 01:15:13,277 --> 01:15:15,376 was, as I sat back and I reflected, 1348 01:15:15,411 --> 01:15:18,819 was, if that thing's real, what the hell else is real? 1349 01:15:23,727 --> 01:15:25,353 LUTZ: I didn't let it control my life, 1350 01:15:25,388 --> 01:15:27,729 and as a matter of fact, 1351 01:15:27,764 --> 01:15:30,358 I kind of swept it into the... 1352 01:15:30,393 --> 01:15:33,163 into the back recesses of my mind, 1353 01:15:33,198 --> 01:15:35,528 and now and again it would come up. 1354 01:15:35,563 --> 01:15:37,739 I get the pin pricks in the back of my neck, 1355 01:15:37,774 --> 01:15:39,532 and I think I'm just... 1356 01:15:39,567 --> 01:15:41,710 Too much imagination. 1357 01:15:41,745 --> 01:15:44,647 I hid this from myself. 1358 01:15:44,682 --> 01:15:46,682 I would... I rarely told anyone, 1359 01:15:46,717 --> 01:15:50,543 because you tell someone, and yeah, 1360 01:15:50,578 --> 01:15:52,985 they're condescending at best, 1361 01:15:53,020 --> 01:15:56,054 just laugh, or think you're joking, and... 1362 01:15:56,089 --> 01:15:58,353 Now, at this age, I don't care 1363 01:15:58,388 --> 01:16:01,521 whether you believe me or not, it doesn't matter. 1364 01:16:01,556 --> 01:16:02,962 It happened. 1365 01:16:05,626 --> 01:16:08,066 ANONYMOUS: The only thing I could literally tell people 1366 01:16:08,101 --> 01:16:09,199 I saw was a werewolf, 1367 01:16:09,234 --> 01:16:10,497 which probably didn't help the fact 1368 01:16:10,532 --> 01:16:12,598 that people thought I was crazy. 1369 01:16:12,633 --> 01:16:13,841 And like I've told her, 1370 01:16:13,876 --> 01:16:15,744 every time I talk about it to anybody, 1371 01:16:15,779 --> 01:16:17,372 the nightmares come back. 1372 01:16:19,046 --> 01:16:20,650 I 've woke up screaming in the night. 1373 01:16:20,685 --> 01:16:23,411 My wife shook me. 1374 01:16:23,446 --> 01:16:25,754 It scares me to my core to know that these things 1375 01:16:25,789 --> 01:16:27,888 are still out there, moving and walking around. 1376 01:16:29,056 --> 01:16:31,485 These things are built to hurt something. 1377 01:16:34,699 --> 01:16:36,798 Trust me, you don't want to see one. 1378 01:16:42,168 --> 01:16:45,466 GROVES: I have nightmares. I'm plagued with dreams. 1379 01:16:45,501 --> 01:16:47,534 At one point, I spoke with a professional 1380 01:16:47,569 --> 01:16:50,603 that said that I had... I had seen something, 1381 01:16:50,638 --> 01:16:53,309 that had traumatized my memory. 1382 01:16:53,344 --> 01:16:56,543 I couldn't accept what I had saw. 1383 01:16:56,578 --> 01:17:00,756 That trauma of whatever that had occurred that night, 1384 01:17:00,791 --> 01:17:03,286 and the incident that I had seen, 1385 01:17:03,321 --> 01:17:05,552 that... It will haunt me. 1386 01:17:05,587 --> 01:17:07,895 It will be in my dreams. 1387 01:17:07,930 --> 01:17:12,031 They told me to attempt to work it out. 1388 01:17:12,066 --> 01:17:13,934 I will not hunt 1389 01:17:13,969 --> 01:17:16,101 in the deep woods any longer. 1390 01:17:16,136 --> 01:17:17,839 I have been to different states, 1391 01:17:17,874 --> 01:17:22,206 I have hunted in Montana, I have hunted in Wyoming. 1392 01:17:25,310 --> 01:17:27,783 I have fished where I've had grizzly bears 1393 01:17:27,818 --> 01:17:31,017 within 20 to 30 yards of me when I'm fly fishing. 1394 01:17:31,712 --> 01:17:33,514 They don't scare me. 1395 01:17:33,549 --> 01:17:34,614 That scares me. 1396 01:17:34,649 --> 01:17:36,484 What I saw that night, 1397 01:17:36,519 --> 01:17:40,763 was such an intense feeling, an evil... 1398 01:17:40,798 --> 01:17:41,764 A feeling of evil that cannot be described.