1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:31,205 --> 00:00:34,730 - I used to carry around a little card in my wallet. 4 00:00:34,773 --> 00:00:37,254 Printed on it was a passage written by 5 00:00:37,298 --> 00:00:40,431 Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright William Saroyan. 6 00:00:43,391 --> 00:00:45,436 His words have served me as a a kind of 7 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:47,047 aspirational instruction 8 00:00:47,090 --> 00:00:49,962 on how I might best live my life. 9 00:00:53,662 --> 00:00:57,013 In its few and poignant paragraphs 10 00:00:57,057 --> 00:01:00,103 I held it as a Bible of sorts. 11 00:01:00,147 --> 00:01:02,714 Its thoughts had resonated deeply with me 12 00:01:02,758 --> 00:01:05,413 from a young age and on a visceral level 13 00:01:05,456 --> 00:01:09,156 and for decades. 14 00:01:09,199 --> 00:01:11,158 But it had not become so crystal clear 15 00:01:11,201 --> 00:01:15,640 in its relevance until this past year and half 16 00:01:15,684 --> 00:01:19,166 as I made seven trips to and from Ukraine 17 00:01:19,209 --> 00:01:21,429 for the making of this film. 18 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:29,132 - For those of you watching, 19 00:01:29,176 --> 00:01:30,699 Vladimir Putin has just declared 20 00:01:30,742 --> 00:01:34,616 that a special military operation is now underway. 21 00:01:34,658 --> 00:01:36,531 - This speech by Vladimir Putin 22 00:01:36,574 --> 00:01:38,140 basically saying that this war 23 00:01:38,185 --> 00:01:41,926 is on the hands of the Ukrainians who resist. 24 00:01:41,971 --> 00:01:43,277 [distant explosion] Oh. I tell you what. 25 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:45,627 I just heard a big bang. 26 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:48,456 - And the distinct sound of explosions 27 00:01:48,499 --> 00:01:50,283 on the horizon here in Kyiv. 28 00:01:50,327 --> 00:01:51,720 - Go, go, go. 29 00:01:51,763 --> 00:01:53,678 - A democratic country has been invaded 30 00:01:53,722 --> 00:01:55,767 by its nuclear-armed neighbor. 31 00:01:55,811 --> 00:01:58,770 - At least three explosions rocked the capital of Kyiv. 32 00:01:58,814 --> 00:02:01,164 - We should go a little bit faster. 33 00:02:01,208 --> 00:02:04,080 - Russia is picking off Ukraine's military facilities 34 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:05,821 one after another. 35 00:02:05,864 --> 00:02:07,779 - No, no, guys. 36 00:02:07,823 --> 00:02:10,565 - Okay. - What the fuck is going on? 37 00:02:10,608 --> 00:02:13,568 [dramatic music] 38 00:02:13,611 --> 00:02:15,178 ♪ 39 00:02:15,222 --> 00:02:16,875 - If the Russians did attack, 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,661 they'd have a short run to Kharkiv. 41 00:02:19,704 --> 00:02:22,185 We're driving north towards the border 42 00:02:22,228 --> 00:02:24,100 with Russia, which is now about 43 00:02:24,144 --> 00:02:25,928 15 or 20 minutes away. 44 00:02:25,971 --> 00:02:27,973 About half an hour beyond that is the city of... 45 00:02:28,017 --> 00:02:31,847 - I really want to get back over there. 46 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:32,935 - They pulled back logistical units 47 00:02:32,978 --> 00:02:34,719 that they could move back to bases 48 00:02:34,763 --> 00:02:36,373 that are already close by. 49 00:02:36,417 --> 00:02:38,549 All the, like, the things that would be essential for-- 50 00:02:38,593 --> 00:02:40,725 to take Kyiv they've left in place. 51 00:02:40,769 --> 00:02:42,640 - But then the counterpoint 52 00:02:42,684 --> 00:02:45,904 from the Unites States' position is that 53 00:02:45,948 --> 00:02:49,256 they've also moved things in what looks like 54 00:02:49,299 --> 00:02:51,736 a strategic movement towards-- 55 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:53,477 - You have to spend this money to train the troops 56 00:02:53,521 --> 00:02:56,654 on logistics on how you make these moves. 57 00:02:56,698 --> 00:02:58,395 - I had a conversation 58 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:00,092 with a former State Department official, 59 00:03:00,136 --> 00:03:01,485 and he, like us, 60 00:03:01,529 --> 00:03:04,749 "I don't think it's going to happen" kind of feel. 61 00:03:04,793 --> 00:03:07,491 Some of these pieces will be edited out of the film, 62 00:03:07,535 --> 00:03:09,450 because it might be us saying, "It's not going to happen. 63 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:11,756 - And then they fucking... - No. 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,846 In fact, though, it's a valuable time capsule 65 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:17,197 to, you know... - With feeling. 66 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,590 - Yes, we will admit it. 67 00:03:19,634 --> 00:03:20,983 But it's not going to happen. 68 00:03:21,026 --> 00:03:24,291 - Erin's hearing from the Zelensky office. 69 00:03:24,334 --> 00:03:26,336 How do you feel about jumping on the plane Sunday? 70 00:03:26,380 --> 00:03:28,773 - Let's say things get weird 71 00:03:28,817 --> 00:03:31,036 and they shut down airlines... - Right. 72 00:03:31,079 --> 00:03:34,779 - Into Kyiv, should we go to Poland? 73 00:03:34,823 --> 00:03:36,868 - There's a natural kind of avenue to get there. 74 00:03:36,912 --> 00:03:38,609 We fly in and drive in. - Yeah. 75 00:03:38,653 --> 00:03:40,220 Is there a train? 76 00:03:40,263 --> 00:03:41,743 [laughter] 77 00:03:41,786 --> 00:03:45,180 - I'll check on the train. - Fuck, that was tits. 78 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:47,183 That was really great. 79 00:03:47,227 --> 00:03:49,228 That was one of the great nights in my life 80 00:03:49,272 --> 00:03:50,969 just being able to look out the window 81 00:03:51,013 --> 00:03:54,538 at the distant little lights and villages. 82 00:03:54,582 --> 00:03:57,280 [train whistle blows] 83 00:03:57,324 --> 00:04:00,283 [tense brooding music] 84 00:04:00,327 --> 00:04:04,069 ♪ 85 00:04:04,113 --> 00:04:05,201 - So... 86 00:04:13,992 --> 00:04:16,298 - We're gonna follow your lead, 87 00:04:16,343 --> 00:04:17,822 because we're starting from zero. 88 00:04:17,866 --> 00:04:24,786 ♪ 89 00:04:49,985 --> 00:04:52,857 - Okay. 90 00:04:52,901 --> 00:04:59,821 ♪ 91 00:05:05,870 --> 00:05:12,790 ♪ 92 00:05:19,057 --> 00:05:25,934 ♪ 93 00:05:37,206 --> 00:05:39,207 - This project started with, 94 00:05:39,251 --> 00:05:40,731 "Oh, what a cute human interest. 95 00:05:40,775 --> 00:05:43,168 "This comedic actor, this nice little guy 96 00:05:43,212 --> 00:05:44,431 "has become the president of Ukraine. 97 00:05:44,474 --> 00:05:46,694 This is going to be funny." 98 00:05:46,737 --> 00:05:48,826 I talked to Sean about it just as a friend. 99 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:50,480 I said, "Oh, I'm doing this, you know, 100 00:05:50,524 --> 00:05:52,264 this project on Zelensky." 101 00:05:52,308 --> 00:05:53,483 And Sean said, "Oh, you know, I've been watching 102 00:05:53,527 --> 00:05:55,006 "a little bit about this guy. 103 00:05:55,050 --> 00:05:56,617 He seems, like, really interesting." 104 00:05:56,659 --> 00:05:59,707 And I've seen Sean do this with other things 105 00:05:59,750 --> 00:06:01,926 and people that he finds interesting. 106 00:06:01,970 --> 00:06:03,580 - Before the quake, actor Sean Penn 107 00:06:03,624 --> 00:06:05,321 had never been to Haiti. 108 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:07,584 He has been there almost full-time since January. 109 00:06:07,628 --> 00:06:10,108 - I've often been asked, 110 00:06:10,152 --> 00:06:11,414 "What's a Hollywood actor doing 111 00:06:11,458 --> 00:06:13,721 by going to places of disaster..." 112 00:06:13,764 --> 00:06:15,810 - We arrived in Baghdad this morning. 113 00:06:15,853 --> 00:06:17,464 - "Of conflict..." 114 00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:20,641 I cannot conceive why they would not have shared 115 00:06:20,684 --> 00:06:22,643 the evidence of weapons of mass destruction. 116 00:06:22,686 --> 00:06:24,688 - Remember that Sean Penn is an arrogant 117 00:06:24,732 --> 00:06:27,212 and self-involved person. 118 00:06:27,256 --> 00:06:28,953 - You know, even his poop doesn't stink. 119 00:06:28,997 --> 00:06:30,433 - "Spending time with alleged enemies of America 120 00:06:30,477 --> 00:06:31,695 - Two-time Oscar winner Sean Penn... 121 00:06:31,739 --> 00:06:32,870 - "Or much worse? 122 00:06:32,914 --> 00:06:34,916 - Shaking hands with El Chapo. 123 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:37,135 Who do you think you are, Walter Cronkite?" 124 00:06:37,179 --> 00:06:38,746 - Unbelievable, you see these celebrities... 125 00:06:38,789 --> 00:06:40,225 "Do you have a savior complex?" 126 00:06:40,269 --> 00:06:41,836 - Just stick to what you're good at, 127 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:43,620 but stay out of our politics. 128 00:06:43,664 --> 00:06:46,406 I just don't quite get why CNN keeps having him on. 129 00:06:46,449 --> 00:06:49,147 - What really motivates you, Sean Penn? 130 00:06:49,191 --> 00:06:50,801 - [inhales] 131 00:06:50,845 --> 00:06:52,150 The best response that I've ever 132 00:06:52,194 --> 00:06:55,066 been able to muster is that I'm curious. 133 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:58,156 I've been lucky in life to be able to afford to travel. 134 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,158 And weathered though it is, 135 00:07:00,202 --> 00:07:01,551 my famous face 136 00:07:01,595 --> 00:07:03,684 gets me access to places and people 137 00:07:03,727 --> 00:07:06,208 I may otherwise not have known. 138 00:07:06,251 --> 00:07:09,385 And sometimes I feel I can be helpful. 139 00:07:10,691 --> 00:07:12,649 This film is unusual. 140 00:07:12,693 --> 00:07:15,522 When Billy Smith and I set out to make this film 141 00:07:15,565 --> 00:07:17,741 there'd been no recent sign of accelerated threat 142 00:07:17,785 --> 00:07:20,004 to Ukraine by Russia. 143 00:07:20,048 --> 00:07:22,137 Most of what I knew about President Zelensky 144 00:07:22,180 --> 00:07:24,531 was that he had too had been an actor 145 00:07:24,574 --> 00:07:27,011 and that as president he had the very unfortunate 146 00:07:27,055 --> 00:07:28,883 international perception 147 00:07:28,926 --> 00:07:31,189 of having an attempt at him being puppeted 148 00:07:31,233 --> 00:07:33,540 by then U.S. president Donald Trump. 149 00:07:33,582 --> 00:07:35,193 - Tonight an explosive allegation 150 00:07:35,237 --> 00:07:37,021 by a government whistleblower. 151 00:07:37,065 --> 00:07:38,806 - It details President Trump's conversation 152 00:07:38,849 --> 00:07:40,155 with the Ukrainian president. 153 00:07:40,198 --> 00:07:41,548 - It was on that call President Trump 154 00:07:41,591 --> 00:07:43,245 told the Ukrainian president, 155 00:07:43,288 --> 00:07:44,681 "I would like you to do us a favor. 156 00:07:47,728 --> 00:07:49,599 - Suddenly I had to do what I do, 157 00:07:49,643 --> 00:07:52,733 listen to smart people. 158 00:07:52,776 --> 00:07:56,040 - In the early 1990s, when the Soviet Union collapsed, 159 00:07:56,084 --> 00:07:58,173 Ukraine had on its territory 160 00:07:58,216 --> 00:08:00,392 the world's third-largest nuclear arsenal. 161 00:08:00,436 --> 00:08:01,698 If you go back and you look 162 00:08:01,742 --> 00:08:03,700 at the George H.W. Bush administration 163 00:08:03,744 --> 00:08:05,006 and then the first year or two 164 00:08:05,049 --> 00:08:06,790 of the Clinton administration, 165 00:08:06,834 --> 00:08:09,532 a real focus was on getting rid of those nuclear weapons. 166 00:08:09,576 --> 00:08:11,229 And the Ukrainians at the end of the day 167 00:08:11,273 --> 00:08:12,535 were prepared to do that. 168 00:08:12,579 --> 00:08:14,624 Their one condition was, they said, "Look, 169 00:08:14,668 --> 00:08:17,497 "nuclear weapons offer security. 170 00:08:17,540 --> 00:08:20,238 If we get rid of them, how do you replace that?" 171 00:08:20,282 --> 00:08:22,371 And we came up with something that seemed like a good idea 172 00:08:22,414 --> 00:08:23,633 at the time. 173 00:08:23,677 --> 00:08:25,026 And it was the Budapest Memorandum 174 00:08:25,069 --> 00:08:27,115 on Security Assurances, where the United States, 175 00:08:27,158 --> 00:08:28,551 Britain, and Russia said, 176 00:08:28,595 --> 00:08:30,553 "We will respect your sovereignty, 177 00:08:30,597 --> 00:08:32,076 "your territorial integrity, your independence. 178 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,251 "And we will not use or threaten 179 00:08:33,294 --> 00:08:34,688 to use force against you." 180 00:08:34,731 --> 00:08:37,168 Russians, of course, have violated all of that. 181 00:08:37,212 --> 00:08:40,128 [plunky piano music] 182 00:08:40,171 --> 00:08:42,826 ♪ 183 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:45,437 - We'd originally set out to tell the whimsical tale 184 00:08:45,481 --> 00:08:47,396 of a real-world president, 185 00:08:47,439 --> 00:08:49,616 who had been a comedy superstar 186 00:08:49,659 --> 00:08:52,270 in a series about a rural history teacher 187 00:08:52,314 --> 00:08:54,229 who becomes a president 188 00:08:54,272 --> 00:08:56,361 only later to actually become one. 189 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,584 - Reality had mirrored fiction, 190 00:09:01,628 --> 00:09:02,933 and Zelensky had made it difficult 191 00:09:02,977 --> 00:09:04,805 for many of us to know 192 00:09:04,848 --> 00:09:07,808 where the television president ended and the real one began. 193 00:09:10,637 --> 00:09:12,464 - It was feeling ever more strangely 194 00:09:12,508 --> 00:09:14,597 like a movie within a movie 195 00:09:14,641 --> 00:09:16,512 within a movie. 196 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:18,514 What would it take for Ukraine 197 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:20,124 to be accepted into NATO? 198 00:09:20,168 --> 00:09:22,518 - NATO said, "Enlargement will be a matter 199 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:24,607 "between the alliance and the country in question 200 00:09:24,651 --> 00:09:26,304 and no third parties." 201 00:09:26,348 --> 00:09:28,437 Well, I think it's fairly obvious 202 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,613 Russia's gotten a de facto vote. 203 00:09:30,657 --> 00:09:32,572 I think the concern here is, 204 00:09:32,615 --> 00:09:36,488 if Ukraine joins NATO on Monday, 205 00:09:36,532 --> 00:09:39,143 on Tuesday, is NATO then at war with Russia? 206 00:09:40,754 --> 00:09:42,407 - The situation in and around Ukraine 207 00:09:42,451 --> 00:09:44,975 remains fluid and unpredictable. 208 00:09:45,019 --> 00:09:47,587 There is no certainty about Russia's intentions. 209 00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:49,806 We see a significant 210 00:09:49,850 --> 00:09:52,983 and unusual concentration of forces, 211 00:09:53,027 --> 00:09:56,813 which is, you know, unjustified and unexplained. 212 00:09:56,857 --> 00:09:58,293 - And with the current Russian buildups... 213 00:09:58,336 --> 00:10:00,077 - Yeah. - How does that go 214 00:10:00,121 --> 00:10:02,427 for a president like Zelensky? 215 00:10:02,471 --> 00:10:05,430 - I think Zelensky is a problem for Putin 216 00:10:05,474 --> 00:10:07,345 in the sense that he contradicts 217 00:10:07,389 --> 00:10:08,651 the Russian narrative. 218 00:10:08,695 --> 00:10:10,348 I mean, the Russian narrative of Ukraine 219 00:10:10,392 --> 00:10:12,960 is that there's an ultra-right neo-Nazi government 220 00:10:13,003 --> 00:10:15,266 that hates Russia and hates Russians, 221 00:10:15,310 --> 00:10:19,096 including Ukrainians who are ethnic Russians. 222 00:10:19,140 --> 00:10:20,750 Zelensky is a problem for that. 223 00:10:20,794 --> 00:10:22,056 He's Jewish. 224 00:10:22,099 --> 00:10:23,274 - Let's be serious. 225 00:10:23,318 --> 00:10:25,537 We're now living in the world where... 226 00:10:29,411 --> 00:10:33,023 He made an entertainment empire making movies, 227 00:10:33,067 --> 00:10:36,679 coming to shows all over the post-Soviet space. 228 00:10:36,723 --> 00:10:39,595 He was a star in Russia as well. 229 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,162 - [speaking native language] 230 00:10:41,205 --> 00:10:42,729 [cheers and applause] 231 00:10:42,772 --> 00:10:44,469 - The situation was changing 232 00:10:44,513 --> 00:10:46,384 and feeling more urgent 233 00:10:46,428 --> 00:10:49,605 for us as trying to tell a story about Zelensky 234 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:51,172 to get over there as soon as possible 235 00:10:51,215 --> 00:10:52,477 to give Sean a feel for the place 236 00:10:52,521 --> 00:10:53,914 before it all might go sideways. 237 00:10:53,957 --> 00:10:56,830 - [singing in native language] 238 00:10:56,873 --> 00:11:03,967 ♪ 239 00:11:04,011 --> 00:11:06,883 - We took in a bit of nightlife, 240 00:11:06,927 --> 00:11:09,494 met with some veterans of the Crimea invasion... 241 00:11:09,538 --> 00:11:11,105 [indistinct chatter] 242 00:11:11,148 --> 00:11:14,804 Then ultimately with a very big and strong man 243 00:11:14,848 --> 00:11:17,589 who was posed to challenge Zelensky for the presidency. 244 00:11:17,633 --> 00:11:20,331 - Vitali Klitschko has made history as a boxer. 245 00:11:20,375 --> 00:11:21,550 - Vitali Klitschko retained his share 246 00:11:21,593 --> 00:11:22,856 of the heavyweight title. 247 00:11:22,899 --> 00:11:24,684 - But he's recently left the ring 248 00:11:24,727 --> 00:11:26,947 for a far more dangerous arena. 249 00:11:26,990 --> 00:11:29,036 - Right now I continue my fight, 250 00:11:29,079 --> 00:11:32,604 because I see the great future of my country. 251 00:11:32,648 --> 00:11:35,259 - There's a lot of parallels between Ukraine 252 00:11:35,303 --> 00:11:37,392 and the United States today politically. 253 00:11:37,435 --> 00:11:40,787 One of them is how people define freedom. 254 00:11:40,830 --> 00:11:43,137 - Regarding Ukraine, it's our freedom 255 00:11:43,180 --> 00:11:45,487 to be independent, 256 00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:49,752 independent to make a decision where we go. 257 00:11:49,796 --> 00:11:52,059 Not so many people know about Ukraine, 258 00:11:52,102 --> 00:11:54,757 because we're a very young country. 259 00:11:54,801 --> 00:11:56,977 We just celebrate 30 years' independency. 260 00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:59,675 We was in Soviet Union, 261 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:03,592 and somebody have an idea to rebuild 262 00:12:03,635 --> 00:12:05,333 big Russian empire. 263 00:12:05,376 --> 00:12:07,770 - Somebody has an idea to rebuild the Soviet Empire? 264 00:12:07,814 --> 00:12:09,119 - Yeah. - Yeah. That's right. Okay. 265 00:12:09,163 --> 00:12:12,514 - We don't want back to USSR. 266 00:12:12,557 --> 00:12:15,430 We're fighting to build democracy, 267 00:12:15,473 --> 00:12:17,998 to have a choice. 268 00:12:18,041 --> 00:12:22,785 To be part of modern world, I guess, is freedom. 269 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:26,876 But just after 2014, 270 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,446 we clearly understand what this mean, 271 00:12:31,489 --> 00:12:35,015 territorial integrity and independency. 272 00:12:35,058 --> 00:12:39,193 People pay for that highest price. 273 00:12:39,236 --> 00:12:42,196 [dramatic music] 274 00:12:42,239 --> 00:12:45,547 ♪ 275 00:12:52,989 --> 00:12:55,035 - Thousands upon thousands of demonstrators 276 00:12:55,078 --> 00:12:57,428 have taken to the streets furious with the government 277 00:12:57,472 --> 00:12:58,865 of President Viktor Yanukovych. 278 00:12:58,908 --> 00:13:01,171 - Yanukovych reversed his decision to sign 279 00:13:01,215 --> 00:13:03,695 a long-awaited trade deal with the European Union 280 00:13:03,739 --> 00:13:06,350 in a move that favored stronger ties with Russia. 281 00:13:06,394 --> 00:13:10,833 - I can't imagine us living in the pre-Maidan times, 282 00:13:10,877 --> 00:13:13,705 in the country with authoritarian rule. 283 00:13:13,749 --> 00:13:15,403 We didn't have strong institutions 284 00:13:15,446 --> 00:13:17,057 that were pro-Ukranian. 285 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:20,538 Our information space was merged with Russia. 286 00:13:20,582 --> 00:13:24,064 We didn't think much about Ukrainian identity, 287 00:13:24,107 --> 00:13:25,326 but people changed. 288 00:13:25,369 --> 00:13:26,806 - I am Ukrainian. 289 00:13:26,849 --> 00:13:29,199 We are not a Soviet Union. 290 00:13:29,243 --> 00:13:32,246 We want to be free. 291 00:13:33,595 --> 00:13:35,510 Maidan was such an empowering moment 292 00:13:35,553 --> 00:13:36,903 for my generation. 293 00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:42,386 Like, each of us, we felt that our voice matter, 294 00:13:42,430 --> 00:13:46,564 our persistence matters, and that we can win. 295 00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:58,576 - Before Maidan, Ukraine was kind of 296 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:00,927 a gray area on the map. 297 00:14:02,319 --> 00:14:03,843 - No one understood what's really the difference 298 00:14:03,886 --> 00:14:05,583 between Ukraine and Russia. 299 00:14:05,627 --> 00:14:09,065 We were completely, like, in this kleptocratic state, 300 00:14:09,109 --> 00:14:11,676 like, where everyone was stealing everything. 301 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,940 And one of the goals of this protest 302 00:14:13,983 --> 00:14:16,899 was to clean up corruption from Ukrainian government. 303 00:14:16,943 --> 00:14:18,596 And it was so hard. 304 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,556 [tense music] 305 00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:23,427 ♪ 306 00:14:23,471 --> 00:14:26,256 [gunfire] 307 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:29,042 - Fallen bodies in the streets of Kyiv. 308 00:14:29,085 --> 00:14:31,479 Protesters confronting security services, 309 00:14:31,522 --> 00:14:33,829 who respond with live ammunition. 310 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:35,135 - We're hearing from medical officials 311 00:14:35,178 --> 00:14:36,701 that possibly 100 people have died. 312 00:14:36,745 --> 00:14:38,834 That figure is going to inflame 313 00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:40,444 an awful lot of anger. 314 00:14:40,488 --> 00:14:42,838 ♪ 315 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:46,581 - Ukrainians have this historical willingness 316 00:14:46,624 --> 00:14:48,409 to be a democratic state. 317 00:14:48,452 --> 00:14:53,109 And because it is so hard to get, 318 00:14:53,153 --> 00:14:54,763 it becomes very precious. 319 00:14:54,806 --> 00:14:57,766 [morose music] 320 00:14:57,809 --> 00:14:59,637 ♪ 321 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:31,017 [gunfire] 322 00:16:10,926 --> 00:16:13,798 - At the ceremony, the lady who spoke before you said 323 00:16:13,842 --> 00:16:15,017 he wanted to build Europe here. 324 00:16:15,061 --> 00:16:17,672 Is that dream one that will be realized 325 00:16:17,715 --> 00:16:19,108 in the future of Ukraine? 326 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:28,509 - Euromaidan gave a great push to build our own sense 327 00:16:28,552 --> 00:16:30,032 of responsibility. 328 00:16:30,076 --> 00:16:32,556 We started to realize, it's our country. 329 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,341 We have to do something. 330 00:16:34,384 --> 00:16:36,256 - In a special session, Ukraine's parliament 331 00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:39,389 voted to remove President Viktor Yanukovych. 332 00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:42,958 - He fled to Russia, urging Moscow to retaliate. 333 00:17:12,422 --> 00:17:16,122 - Annexation of Crimea was made possible 334 00:17:16,165 --> 00:17:17,949 because of Euromaidan. 335 00:17:17,992 --> 00:17:20,821 It allowed Putin to switch on the propaganda. 336 00:17:20,865 --> 00:17:21,823 [applause] 337 00:18:03,038 --> 00:18:06,128 - Shame on me having focused so little of my attention 338 00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:09,000 on Ukraine's 2004 Orange Revolution 339 00:18:09,044 --> 00:18:12,830 or its significant leader, Viktor Yushchenko. 340 00:18:12,874 --> 00:18:16,660 After being elected president in 2005, 341 00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:19,446 Yushchenko became Ukraine's first modern leader 342 00:18:19,489 --> 00:18:21,839 to stand up for Ukraine's sovereignty 343 00:18:21,883 --> 00:18:25,582 against Russia's unrelentingly invasive grip. 344 00:18:25,626 --> 00:18:27,976 While I, like most Americans, 345 00:18:28,019 --> 00:18:29,891 remembered little beyond the headlines 346 00:18:29,934 --> 00:18:32,154 about the dioxin poisoning of Yushchenko 347 00:18:32,198 --> 00:18:34,156 by Russian assets, 348 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,505 this had been a sanguine moment 349 00:18:35,549 --> 00:18:38,334 in Ukraine's sovereign evolution. 350 00:18:38,378 --> 00:18:41,163 In the ten politically corrupt and chaotic years 351 00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:43,731 of disappointment that followed, 352 00:18:43,774 --> 00:18:47,300 the masses had maintained that rumble of freedom calling 353 00:18:47,343 --> 00:18:49,954 until that rumble became the river 354 00:18:49,998 --> 00:18:52,914 that burst into Maidan. 355 00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:55,873 [tense percussive music] 356 00:18:55,917 --> 00:19:02,489 ♪ 357 00:19:02,532 --> 00:19:04,491 - We were all through eastern Ukraine, 358 00:19:04,534 --> 00:19:07,885 and we traveled down to Mariupol. 359 00:19:07,929 --> 00:19:10,888 - Mariupol, which had been so consistently scarred 360 00:19:10,932 --> 00:19:14,414 since 2014, would later become the site 361 00:19:14,457 --> 00:19:17,330 of so much death and destruction. 362 00:19:17,373 --> 00:19:24,250 ♪ 363 00:19:26,513 --> 00:19:29,429 [groans] 364 00:19:29,472 --> 00:19:31,257 Why did you decide to serve? 365 00:19:41,092 --> 00:19:42,659 - And you rose to position of commander? 366 00:19:56,282 --> 00:19:57,457 - And you're a sniper? 367 00:20:01,939 --> 00:20:04,115 - It's November 2021. 368 00:20:04,159 --> 00:20:05,900 Where is general troop morale? 369 00:20:23,787 --> 00:20:27,269 [morose music] 370 00:20:27,313 --> 00:20:29,793 - After Maidan, it was hard to imagine myself 371 00:20:29,837 --> 00:20:31,273 anywhere else in the world, 372 00:20:31,317 --> 00:20:34,668 because Ukraine is a country in the making. 373 00:20:34,711 --> 00:20:38,541 And, like, being a part of the historical process 374 00:20:38,585 --> 00:20:41,152 of building a state, 375 00:20:41,196 --> 00:20:43,285 it's bigger than anything. 376 00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:45,200 Like, you're building something 377 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:49,944 that will influence life of people for hundreds of years. 378 00:20:49,987 --> 00:20:53,861 - After Maidan, people expected 379 00:20:53,904 --> 00:20:56,167 a new political elite, a new government 380 00:20:56,211 --> 00:21:00,041 will change the situation dramatically, 381 00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:02,391 will fight corruption, will change internal rules, 382 00:21:02,435 --> 00:21:04,045 and so on and so forth. 383 00:21:04,088 --> 00:21:06,352 But, unfortunately, the old corrupted elite-- 384 00:21:06,395 --> 00:21:08,963 Western-related but still corrupted-- 385 00:21:09,006 --> 00:21:10,530 came to power. 386 00:21:10,573 --> 00:21:12,140 - He was one of the wealthiest people in the country 387 00:21:12,183 --> 00:21:13,837 from day one. 388 00:21:13,881 --> 00:21:16,710 - Ukrainians perceived Poroshenko, many of them, 389 00:21:16,753 --> 00:21:20,322 as another oligarch, a rich man going to power 390 00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:22,846 and becoming even more rich man. 391 00:21:33,379 --> 00:21:34,336 - There's a saying here, 392 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:36,730 which may sound bad, 393 00:21:36,773 --> 00:21:38,340 but as long as there's corruption, 394 00:21:38,384 --> 00:21:40,342 you can count on justice. 395 00:21:40,386 --> 00:21:42,518 - This kind of idea of Ukrainians, 396 00:21:42,562 --> 00:21:46,043 that there are oligarchs who privatized the country, 397 00:21:46,087 --> 00:21:48,263 and they put the private interests 398 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,134 over the public interests. 399 00:21:50,178 --> 00:21:52,746 So Zelensky was playing on this, 400 00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:55,052 that, "I will come, and I will break this system." 401 00:21:55,096 --> 00:21:58,273 [rock music] 402 00:21:58,317 --> 00:21:59,840 - His political life began 403 00:21:59,883 --> 00:22:03,278 with that really incredible coup on New Year's Eve. 404 00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:05,628 - [exhaling sharply] 405 00:22:05,672 --> 00:22:08,762 - Zelensky was, you know, ally with Kolomoisky, 406 00:22:08,805 --> 00:22:10,329 one of the oligarchs. 407 00:22:10,372 --> 00:22:12,940 And Kolomoisky TV channel, 1+1, 408 00:22:12,983 --> 00:22:15,986 instead of address of the president, Poroshenko, 409 00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:18,337 they put address of Zelensky. 410 00:22:22,602 --> 00:22:25,431 - Zelensky has done a lot to try to separate himself 411 00:22:25,474 --> 00:22:27,389 from Kolomoisky, but I don't get the sense 412 00:22:27,433 --> 00:22:29,478 that he's as compromised 413 00:22:29,522 --> 00:22:31,959 as someone like Viktor Yanukovych 414 00:22:32,002 --> 00:22:35,310 or Petro Poroshenko, who are legitimate oligarchs. 415 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:37,399 - In Ukraine, it's not necessarily a country 416 00:22:37,443 --> 00:22:39,227 that's black and white; it's shades of gray. 417 00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:41,011 - Here's a young kid, pure, 418 00:22:41,055 --> 00:22:42,448 innocent, white, fluffy bunny rabbit 419 00:22:42,491 --> 00:22:43,884 untouched by the dirt of politics. 420 00:22:45,842 --> 00:22:46,800 - He knows what to do. 421 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:04,905 - I saw his show, "The Servant of the People," 422 00:23:04,948 --> 00:23:07,603 exactly what he would do if he was president, 423 00:23:07,647 --> 00:23:10,301 which is destroy oligarchy, destroy corruption. 424 00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:26,492 [upbeat music] 425 00:23:26,535 --> 00:23:27,841 Be careful. 426 00:23:27,884 --> 00:23:30,409 - He was one of the most famous actor 427 00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:32,802 not just in Ukraine, of all territory 428 00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:34,282 of the Soviet Union. 429 00:23:34,325 --> 00:23:38,678 He not be an actor who is sitting and waiting, 430 00:23:38,721 --> 00:23:40,244 what happened around him. 431 00:23:40,288 --> 00:23:42,421 He was producer. He was director. 432 00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:45,424 - Whoo-hoo! 433 00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:11,014 - [speaking in native language] 434 00:24:11,058 --> 00:24:13,147 - The choice is very simple, either or. 435 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:15,062 Zelensky is hope. 436 00:24:15,105 --> 00:24:17,456 - Sometimes he is not very well-prepared. 437 00:24:17,499 --> 00:24:18,500 - He's really trying. 438 00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:20,241 It's just, like, not his role. 439 00:24:20,284 --> 00:24:22,025 - I mean, we don't know what he thinks 440 00:24:22,069 --> 00:24:24,114 about almost anything. - Well, indeed. 441 00:24:24,158 --> 00:24:26,160 - Test out the policies in the TV show. 442 00:24:26,203 --> 00:24:27,683 See if they bump, you know, and implement them. 443 00:24:27,727 --> 00:24:29,076 - Yes. 444 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,906 [upbeat music] 445 00:24:32,949 --> 00:24:34,298 - Zelensky came in, 446 00:24:34,342 --> 00:24:35,691 a political novice, supposedly, 447 00:24:35,735 --> 00:24:37,606 but I think he ran an excellent campaign. 448 00:24:37,650 --> 00:24:39,129 You know, his themes were, "I'm going to fight corruption. 449 00:24:39,173 --> 00:24:40,391 "I'm going to grow the economy. 450 00:24:40,435 --> 00:24:42,306 "We're going to stop the war with Russia, 451 00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:43,699 and we're going to get our territory back." 452 00:24:51,402 --> 00:24:53,535 - We are living in the country 453 00:24:53,579 --> 00:24:55,537 in which all the presidents 454 00:24:55,581 --> 00:24:58,148 was from some politic elite. 455 00:24:58,192 --> 00:25:02,022 I've been not sure that it can be possible, 456 00:25:02,065 --> 00:25:04,241 but I was sure about him. 457 00:25:04,285 --> 00:25:05,634 Absolutely. 458 00:25:05,678 --> 00:25:09,899 [cheers and applause] 459 00:25:09,943 --> 00:25:13,686 - A political earthquake took place in Ukraine this weekend. 460 00:25:13,729 --> 00:25:16,906 On Sunday an electorate sick of the status quo 461 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,909 voted overwhelmingly for a political satirist. 462 00:25:49,635 --> 00:25:50,984 [cheers and applause] 463 00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:05,302 - We were meeting with people every day 464 00:26:05,346 --> 00:26:07,478 while waiting for it all to line up 465 00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:08,871 to meet with the president. 466 00:26:08,915 --> 00:26:10,525 Between people on the street, 467 00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:12,135 people in bars and restaurants, 468 00:26:12,179 --> 00:26:13,833 people from all walks of life, 469 00:26:13,876 --> 00:26:15,530 I don't think we found anybody 470 00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:17,967 who said, "This is the guy." 471 00:26:18,011 --> 00:26:19,012 Did you vote for him? 472 00:26:22,102 --> 00:26:24,278 - Were you a fan of "Servant of the People"? 473 00:26:26,802 --> 00:26:29,065 - I think a lot of people who voted for them 474 00:26:29,109 --> 00:26:30,501 were also confused, 475 00:26:30,545 --> 00:26:33,766 and they were choosing, like, from lesser evil. 476 00:26:33,809 --> 00:26:35,115 - I didn't vote for him, 477 00:26:35,158 --> 00:26:37,073 and I was very skeptical about him. 478 00:26:37,117 --> 00:26:39,598 He did belong to Russian world. 479 00:26:39,641 --> 00:26:43,340 He worked and made money in Russia. 480 00:26:43,384 --> 00:26:46,300 I think that for a long time, 481 00:26:46,343 --> 00:26:50,043 he expected that he could find some understanding. 482 00:27:07,538 --> 00:27:10,280 - Who is Zelensky to you? 483 00:27:10,324 --> 00:27:12,108 - He's the president, you know? 484 00:27:12,152 --> 00:27:16,243 I don't vote for him, because for me, 485 00:27:16,286 --> 00:27:20,726 president in Ukraine must be a man with the balls. 486 00:27:20,769 --> 00:27:25,731 Because when we have president which want to speak 487 00:27:25,774 --> 00:27:28,037 with the Russians about the peace, 488 00:27:28,081 --> 00:27:29,212 what the fuck, man? 489 00:27:29,256 --> 00:27:31,693 Russians don't care about peace. 490 00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:35,088 - How old were each of you when you went to fight? 491 00:27:35,131 --> 00:27:36,785 - I was 27. - 35. 492 00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:38,265 - What led you to it? 493 00:27:38,308 --> 00:27:39,919 - My father was born in Crimea. 494 00:27:39,962 --> 00:27:42,573 My mother lived in Donetsk. 495 00:27:42,617 --> 00:27:46,752 And Crimea and Donetsk now is occupied by Russians. 496 00:27:46,795 --> 00:27:49,319 So I don't want Russians in my house. 497 00:27:49,363 --> 00:27:51,365 Our neighbors, fucking neighbors. 498 00:27:51,408 --> 00:27:53,454 - Da, fucking neighbors. 499 00:27:53,497 --> 00:27:55,325 Fucking neighbors. 500 00:27:55,369 --> 00:27:56,936 - We're currently in this situation 501 00:27:56,979 --> 00:27:59,939 where there's a major Russian buildup. 502 00:27:59,982 --> 00:28:03,333 - We live with this for 7 1/2 years. 503 00:28:03,377 --> 00:28:07,076 We understand that they can go to war at us. 504 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,470 So maybe for United citizens, 505 00:28:09,513 --> 00:28:11,254 it's like, you know... [gasps] 506 00:28:11,298 --> 00:28:15,171 For Ukrainians, it's like, "Okay, we know, yeah." 507 00:28:15,215 --> 00:28:17,478 When your enemy is Russian, 508 00:28:17,521 --> 00:28:20,829 you must be fucking tough guy. 509 00:28:20,873 --> 00:28:23,266 And it's a time when president 510 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:27,880 must, mm, do some difficult decisions. 511 00:28:30,099 --> 00:28:32,449 - More now on our top national story. 512 00:28:32,493 --> 00:28:33,929 The whistleblower 513 00:28:33,973 --> 00:28:35,452 at the center of the impeachment inquiry 514 00:28:35,496 --> 00:28:37,367 by the House of Representatives alleged 515 00:28:37,411 --> 00:28:40,066 that President Trump abused the power of his office. 516 00:28:40,109 --> 00:28:41,458 - President repeatedly urged 517 00:28:41,502 --> 00:28:43,722 Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky 518 00:28:43,765 --> 00:28:45,767 to investigate his political rival. 519 00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:47,551 - Allegations of a quid pro quo, 520 00:28:47,595 --> 00:28:49,423 that U.S. president Donald Trump 521 00:28:49,466 --> 00:28:51,468 made military aid to Ukraine 522 00:28:51,512 --> 00:28:53,296 dependent on the country digging up dirt 523 00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:54,733 on Trump's political opponent. 524 00:28:59,476 --> 00:29:01,783 - It is improper for the president of the United States 525 00:29:01,827 --> 00:29:05,047 to demand a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen 526 00:29:05,091 --> 00:29:06,309 and a political opponent. 527 00:29:06,353 --> 00:29:07,746 We missed a huge opportunity 528 00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:09,051 because of the Ukrainian scandal 529 00:29:09,095 --> 00:29:10,661 to work with Zelensky. 530 00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:14,274 And also, those moments indicated to Putin 531 00:29:14,317 --> 00:29:15,666 that there was an opportunity here. 532 00:29:15,710 --> 00:29:18,582 You don't have to worry about the U.S. government 533 00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:19,932 coming down on you like a hammer. 534 00:29:19,975 --> 00:29:21,934 This is a wedge issue. 535 00:29:21,977 --> 00:29:23,370 We could separate, you know, the parties, 536 00:29:23,413 --> 00:29:24,806 the bipartisan support. 537 00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:26,547 If we didn't have that, 538 00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:29,550 maybe we could have warned off Russia's aggression. 539 00:29:29,593 --> 00:29:32,161 - I can see you're angry with President Trump. 540 00:29:32,205 --> 00:29:35,121 Maybe a little bit, huh? 541 00:29:35,164 --> 00:29:38,951 - A little bit? [chuckles] 542 00:29:38,994 --> 00:29:40,909 - Zelensky is incredibly careful. 543 00:29:40,953 --> 00:29:43,912 And, I mean, at that point, you can tell he understands 544 00:29:43,956 --> 00:29:46,393 that there's a huge trap here, 545 00:29:46,436 --> 00:29:48,090 and he very carefully walks around it. 546 00:29:50,353 --> 00:29:52,616 And then in December of 2019 547 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:54,749 there's a summit meeting in Paris. 548 00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,056 President Macron of France, Chancellor Merkel of Germany, 549 00:29:57,099 --> 00:29:58,927 they're there with Putin and Zelensky, 550 00:29:58,971 --> 00:30:02,061 tried to mediate a solution to the conflict in Donbas. 551 00:30:09,895 --> 00:30:10,896 - I think Putin kind of thought 552 00:30:10,939 --> 00:30:12,593 he could play Zelensky, 553 00:30:12,636 --> 00:30:14,334 but he challenged Putin in a way that I think 554 00:30:14,377 --> 00:30:15,901 Putin was kind of surprised about. 555 00:30:54,765 --> 00:30:56,071 - How does this play out now? 556 00:30:56,115 --> 00:30:59,509 - Now we have the same Putin, 557 00:30:59,553 --> 00:31:01,729 but we have absolutely different Ukraine 558 00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:05,864 and absolutely different mood in your country. 559 00:31:05,907 --> 00:31:07,387 - While Zelensky had coalesced 560 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:09,389 a new centrism in Ukraine, 561 00:31:09,432 --> 00:31:11,260 the United States had fallen into 562 00:31:11,304 --> 00:31:14,089 a populist lap dance of extremes. 563 00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:16,962 We'd all been feeling the unimaginatively toxic 564 00:31:17,005 --> 00:31:19,181 divisiveness at home, 565 00:31:19,225 --> 00:31:20,966 so to see Ukraine's vibrant, young, 566 00:31:21,009 --> 00:31:23,446 and united democracy downrage 567 00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:26,188 of Russian tyranny was chilling. 568 00:31:44,467 --> 00:31:46,992 - If Putin goes full-strength forward 569 00:31:47,035 --> 00:31:48,689 using conventional weapons, 570 00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:50,865 is Ukraine ready? 571 00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:53,868 [rock music] 572 00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:55,957 ♪ 573 00:32:10,841 --> 00:32:12,234 [gunfire] 574 00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:15,934 - [shouts in native language] 575 00:32:23,463 --> 00:32:24,638 - [singing in native language] 576 00:33:17,865 --> 00:33:21,303 - I want protect my country, my mom, my family. 577 00:33:21,347 --> 00:33:25,525 To protect democracy is really important to everyone. 578 00:33:25,568 --> 00:33:28,180 All Ukrainians, we all is strong. 579 00:33:28,223 --> 00:33:31,922 And I know that our future is great and big 580 00:33:31,966 --> 00:33:33,446 for everyone Ukrainian. 581 00:33:59,298 --> 00:34:02,779 - In a 2005 address to the Russian Federation 582 00:34:02,823 --> 00:34:05,347 Putin said, "We are a free nation, 583 00:34:05,391 --> 00:34:07,306 "and our place in the modern world 584 00:34:07,349 --> 00:34:09,786 "will be defined only by how successful 585 00:34:09,830 --> 00:34:11,353 and strong we are." 586 00:34:11,397 --> 00:34:13,572 His statement played out as mockery 587 00:34:13,616 --> 00:34:15,444 in the absolutely authoritarianism 588 00:34:15,487 --> 00:34:18,056 he'd adopted in the years that followed. 589 00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:20,275 But its true embodiment was happening 590 00:34:20,319 --> 00:34:22,234 in the sovereign Ukraine. 591 00:34:22,277 --> 00:34:25,498 And we could feel its simmering unification. 592 00:34:25,541 --> 00:34:27,587 It was a different kind of air I was breathing. 593 00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:29,545 [drum thumping] 594 00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:51,176 [dramatic music] 595 00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:53,003 ♪ 596 00:34:53,047 --> 00:34:55,918 - [singing in native language] 597 00:34:55,963 --> 00:35:01,403 ♪ 598 00:35:43,706 --> 00:35:47,449 [cheers and applause] 599 00:35:47,493 --> 00:35:48,624 - So fucking great. 600 00:35:48,668 --> 00:35:51,236 [cheers and applause] 601 00:35:51,279 --> 00:35:54,239 [tense music] 602 00:35:54,282 --> 00:35:56,066 ♪ 603 00:35:56,110 --> 00:35:58,199 - There has been a dramatic and worrying shift 604 00:35:58,243 --> 00:36:02,290 in Russia's readiness to attack in the past 48 hours. 605 00:36:02,334 --> 00:36:04,423 Russia has now moved rocket launchers 606 00:36:04,466 --> 00:36:09,341 and long-range artillery into firing positions. 607 00:36:09,384 --> 00:36:11,343 - Vladimir Putin, in a dramatic escalation, 608 00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:13,432 announcing tonight he's sending Russian troops 609 00:36:13,475 --> 00:36:15,216 into eastern Ukraine. 610 00:36:40,937 --> 00:36:47,770 ♪ 611 00:36:47,814 --> 00:36:48,989 - Hello. 612 00:36:49,032 --> 00:36:50,773 - Fernando, we have a camera on you. 613 00:36:50,817 --> 00:36:52,166 - Okay. 614 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:53,515 - What was your impression 615 00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:54,995 of Putin's speech the other night? 616 00:37:02,437 --> 00:37:06,224 - But what is your human perception 617 00:37:06,267 --> 00:37:08,617 of his state of mind? 618 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:17,191 ♪ 619 00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:20,150 - Up until last night I had some faith 620 00:37:20,194 --> 00:37:24,503 that maybe there is some plan that Putin had in his mind, 621 00:37:24,546 --> 00:37:27,070 bust just on his demeanor 622 00:37:27,114 --> 00:37:28,507 he may not be rational, 623 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:30,291 and maybe we should seriously consider the fact 624 00:37:30,335 --> 00:37:33,163 that there's a madman in Europe again. 625 00:37:33,207 --> 00:37:34,556 - I don't think he's an irrational man. 626 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,949 I don't think it was a crazy speech. 627 00:37:35,992 --> 00:37:37,516 - He challenged Ukraine's right to exist. 628 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:41,302 - He makes all sorts of absurd assertions, 629 00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:43,739 like, you know, "Ukrainians are attacking 630 00:37:43,783 --> 00:37:45,915 Russian soil" and that sort of thing, 631 00:37:45,959 --> 00:37:48,614 but in some ways I think the point that he's making is that, 632 00:37:48,657 --> 00:37:52,313 "You Americans behave this way for decades already. 633 00:37:52,357 --> 00:37:55,055 And now I'm gonna behave this way myself." 634 00:37:55,098 --> 00:37:56,622 And I think Zelensky has a problem, 635 00:37:56,665 --> 00:37:58,188 because he's the target. 636 00:37:58,232 --> 00:37:59,581 They want a regime change here. 637 00:38:06,022 --> 00:38:07,067 - People would never support some puppet-- 638 00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:08,198 - No, no, no. - No. 639 00:38:08,242 --> 00:38:09,635 - Isn't it ridiculous, though, 640 00:38:09,678 --> 00:38:12,594 that they got to this point because of their hubris. 641 00:38:12,638 --> 00:38:14,857 Zelensky comes to power saying, 642 00:38:14,901 --> 00:38:16,511 "I can make a deal. 643 00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:19,601 "I'm not particularly wedded to any ideological position. 644 00:38:19,645 --> 00:38:21,821 "Language, politics, don't care about it. 645 00:38:21,864 --> 00:38:23,126 "Ukrainization, don't care about it. 646 00:38:23,170 --> 00:38:24,780 "I just want peace. 647 00:38:24,824 --> 00:38:26,391 I want everybody in Ukraine to live like what they want." 648 00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:28,262 He says, "Let's have a dialogue." 649 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,655 None of it works. 650 00:38:29,698 --> 00:38:32,048 Putin says, "Meh, meh, no, no deal." 651 00:38:32,092 --> 00:38:33,223 I--you know-- - "You're a nationalist." 652 00:38:33,267 --> 00:38:34,442 - Yeah, "You're a nationalist." 653 00:38:34,486 --> 00:38:36,575 And he keeps calling him a Nazi Jew. 654 00:38:36,618 --> 00:38:38,881 Putin kept calling him a nationalist so many times 655 00:38:38,925 --> 00:38:41,275 that ultimately it's like, "Okay, fine. 656 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:44,713 NATO, I'm gonna speak Ukrainian in public all the time." 657 00:38:44,757 --> 00:38:47,412 'Cause there's nothing that the people in the Kremlin 658 00:38:47,455 --> 00:38:50,371 are willing to do in order to make a dialogue happen. 659 00:38:50,415 --> 00:38:52,330 - Isn't it a story of, like Russia's policy 660 00:38:52,373 --> 00:38:53,505 against Ukraine the last eight years? 661 00:38:53,548 --> 00:38:54,941 Every single things they've done 662 00:38:54,984 --> 00:38:56,203 has completely backfired on them. 663 00:38:56,246 --> 00:38:57,291 - Totally. - They thought they'd launch 664 00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:59,511 a war to split this country apart, 665 00:38:59,554 --> 00:39:00,860 and it actually unified the country. 666 00:39:00,903 --> 00:39:03,341 And I think in my interpretation last night is, 667 00:39:03,384 --> 00:39:04,733 this is about vengeance. 668 00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:06,431 He's angry. 669 00:39:06,474 --> 00:39:08,650 This country wants to divorce itself from Russia forever, 670 00:39:08,694 --> 00:39:10,086 and he wants it back. 671 00:39:10,130 --> 00:39:12,350 - Yeah, and there's this ideology in Russia 672 00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:14,830 Slovak people can't have a democracy, 673 00:39:14,874 --> 00:39:16,310 and, you know, Russians actually believe it, 674 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:17,920 and then, if, you know, if they have something 675 00:39:17,964 --> 00:39:20,096 that's successful here, it is an existential threat to them. 676 00:39:46,601 --> 00:39:48,081 - We're looking at something now, 677 00:39:48,124 --> 00:39:50,823 we're gonna have air power, missiles, cyberattacks, 678 00:39:50,866 --> 00:39:52,302 jamming GPS. 679 00:39:52,346 --> 00:39:53,391 It's-- 680 00:39:53,434 --> 00:39:55,654 - If it happens like that. 681 00:39:55,697 --> 00:39:57,264 - But I think if--if-- 682 00:39:57,307 --> 00:39:59,440 - I think the chances are up to 10% of-- 683 00:39:59,484 --> 00:40:00,702 - Ooh. 684 00:40:00,746 --> 00:40:02,269 - I say, for me, it's 50/50 right now. 685 00:40:02,312 --> 00:40:05,707 - 50/50 of Kyiv on fire. - Yes. 686 00:40:05,751 --> 00:40:07,317 - I mean, I just think the U.S. government 687 00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:09,319 isn't worrying about these things for nothing. 688 00:40:09,363 --> 00:40:10,495 [tense music] 689 00:40:10,538 --> 00:40:12,932 - Have you been to Russia? 690 00:40:12,975 --> 00:40:17,327 ♪ 691 00:40:17,371 --> 00:40:20,200 - In 2001 Jack Nicholson and I had a film 692 00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:24,160 at the Moscow Film Festival. 693 00:40:24,204 --> 00:40:26,511 That night has become a deviant memory. 694 00:40:26,554 --> 00:40:31,690 ♪ 695 00:40:31,733 --> 00:40:34,693 [ominous music] 696 00:40:34,736 --> 00:40:37,478 ♪ 697 00:40:37,522 --> 00:40:39,828 - Rising tension has prompted the United States 698 00:40:39,872 --> 00:40:43,397 to remove its personnel from the U.S. embassy in Ukraine. 699 00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:44,790 - The U.S. State Department 700 00:40:44,833 --> 00:40:47,140 issuing its highest level, level 4, 701 00:40:47,183 --> 00:40:48,663 "do not travel" advisory. 702 00:40:48,707 --> 00:40:50,839 [siren wailing] 703 00:40:50,883 --> 00:40:54,843 - It felt increasingly like Putin's special operation 704 00:40:54,887 --> 00:40:56,454 was coming our way. 705 00:41:04,853 --> 00:41:08,030 - The U.S. is rushing more military aid to the country, 706 00:41:08,074 --> 00:41:09,728 the first shipment 707 00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:11,904 of a new $200 million package arriving, 708 00:41:11,947 --> 00:41:13,601 including ammunition. 709 00:41:13,645 --> 00:41:16,169 - You are likely in the last few hours 710 00:41:16,212 --> 00:41:18,911 of peace on the European continent 711 00:41:18,954 --> 00:41:20,608 for a long time to come. 712 00:41:20,652 --> 00:41:23,437 - Vladimir Putin has just addressed 713 00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:26,179 the Russian people moments ago announcing what Putin called 714 00:41:26,222 --> 00:41:28,529 the start of a military special operation, 715 00:41:28,573 --> 00:41:32,228 in his words, to demilitarize Ukraine. 716 00:41:32,272 --> 00:41:34,535 - We may be witnessing now what is the beginning 717 00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:39,888 of the bloodiest conflict in Europe since World War II. 718 00:41:39,932 --> 00:41:42,543 - Russian president Vladimir Putin 719 00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:45,938 has 150,000-plus troops near the border. 720 00:41:56,426 --> 00:41:57,732 - Russia has got forces effectively 721 00:41:57,776 --> 00:41:59,342 surrounding Ukraine on three sides, 722 00:41:59,386 --> 00:42:01,170 by land and sea and air. 723 00:42:18,187 --> 00:42:20,363 - We were nearing the end of our scheduled week in Kyiv 724 00:42:20,407 --> 00:42:22,714 when we got the called we'd been waiting for. 725 00:42:22,757 --> 00:42:25,934 It was February 23, 2022, 726 00:42:25,978 --> 00:42:27,980 when our first in-person meeting 727 00:42:28,023 --> 00:42:29,416 with President Zelensky would happen. 728 00:42:32,288 --> 00:42:33,768 We did not bring our cameras. 729 00:42:33,812 --> 00:42:36,728 I myself am suspicious of trusts built 730 00:42:36,771 --> 00:42:38,817 on electronic communications. 731 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:40,906 I wanted the president to have an opportunity 732 00:42:40,949 --> 00:42:43,909 of sizing me up in person before asking him to commit 733 00:42:43,952 --> 00:42:46,520 to participate in our film. 734 00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:49,175 By the end of our meeting he did indeed commit to us 735 00:42:49,218 --> 00:42:52,613 bringing out cameras on the following day. 736 00:42:52,657 --> 00:42:55,616 On any other day I might have been ecstatic. 737 00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:59,054 But this was not anyone's average day on planet Earth. 738 00:42:59,098 --> 00:43:02,536 And both this warm, young president I'd just met 739 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:04,712 and his nation were in 740 00:43:04,756 --> 00:43:07,019 a heart-wrenching degree of danger. 741 00:43:07,062 --> 00:43:09,630 [siren wailing] 742 00:43:09,674 --> 00:43:12,154 - Sean, I just talked to the security guy. 743 00:43:12,198 --> 00:43:14,679 We have to leave the country in the morning. 744 00:43:14,722 --> 00:43:17,725 Yeah, so we'll try to meet the president tomorrow. 745 00:43:17,769 --> 00:43:19,509 - There's a big difference in my conversation 746 00:43:19,553 --> 00:43:23,644 about leaving one day early versus leaving tomorrow. 747 00:43:23,688 --> 00:43:26,604 I don't--I'm not prepared to leave tomorrow. 748 00:43:31,434 --> 00:43:34,524 Who do you think you are, Geraldo Rivera? 749 00:43:34,568 --> 00:43:37,527 [dramatic music] 750 00:43:37,571 --> 00:43:43,142 ♪ 751 00:43:43,185 --> 00:43:46,580 - The war in Ukraine has begun. 752 00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:50,497 - Three explosions rocked the capital of Kyiv this morning. 753 00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:52,238 A rocket hit an apartment building 754 00:43:52,281 --> 00:43:53,674 starting a fire. 755 00:43:53,718 --> 00:43:57,635 - When was the last time you heard something? 756 00:43:57,678 --> 00:44:01,116 - Like, that was, like, a half an hour ago. 757 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,336 I heard, like, the sounds of explosions. 758 00:44:03,379 --> 00:44:04,990 - If we need them at some point, 759 00:44:05,033 --> 00:44:06,992 who's providing vests, helmets, and all that shit? 760 00:44:07,035 --> 00:44:09,821 - Peter. - Okay. 761 00:44:09,864 --> 00:44:12,606 - I mean, we just got a call that there was-- 762 00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:14,347 - They had two impacts in town. 763 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:15,914 [loud explosion] 764 00:44:15,957 --> 00:44:18,830 [alarm blaring] 765 00:44:18,873 --> 00:44:20,309 They're hitting the airport. - No. 766 00:44:20,353 --> 00:44:22,747 - Yeah. - Fucking A. 767 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:24,705 - Airspace shut down. 768 00:44:40,242 --> 00:44:42,941 - I agree. 769 00:44:42,984 --> 00:44:45,987 [tense music] 770 00:44:46,031 --> 00:44:47,423 - What are we doing? 771 00:44:47,467 --> 00:44:49,338 - Just going over to the InterContinental, 772 00:44:49,382 --> 00:44:50,905 find out what's going on, because nobody here 773 00:44:50,949 --> 00:44:53,081 seems to know what's going on. 774 00:44:53,125 --> 00:44:55,431 No maps, nothing. They'll have stuff... 775 00:44:59,871 --> 00:45:01,220 - Fuck it. 776 00:45:01,263 --> 00:45:03,004 - We're just going to go to the InterContinental, 777 00:45:03,048 --> 00:45:04,266 that hotel right there. - Right. Right. 778 00:45:04,310 --> 00:45:06,051 - To that? - Just the hotel right there. 779 00:45:06,094 --> 00:45:07,705 - To that hotel that is on the opposite side? 780 00:45:07,748 --> 00:45:08,662 - Yeah. 781 00:45:14,624 --> 00:45:17,758 [horn honking] 782 00:45:17,802 --> 00:45:24,678 ♪ 783 00:45:48,049 --> 00:45:51,009 - And it says, like, the recent rocket attacks-- 784 00:45:51,052 --> 00:45:53,141 - Rocket attacks? 785 00:45:53,185 --> 00:45:56,231 I hear ya. I hear ya. 786 00:45:56,275 --> 00:45:58,581 - Here. - Thanks. 787 00:45:58,625 --> 00:46:04,152 I just heard from Robert O'Brien. 788 00:46:04,196 --> 00:46:05,806 He said, "Get the fuck out." 789 00:46:05,850 --> 00:46:07,068 [dramatic music] 790 00:46:07,112 --> 00:46:09,244 - The U.S. did hear from the president 791 00:46:09,288 --> 00:46:11,507 of Ukraine earlier tonight. 792 00:46:11,551 --> 00:46:13,814 He's there. He has not fled his country. 793 00:46:13,858 --> 00:46:16,861 - He obviously is determined to say. 794 00:46:36,010 --> 00:46:38,752 [air raid siren blaring] 795 00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:40,710 - Your attention, please. 796 00:46:40,754 --> 00:46:43,191 There is second-level threat in country. 797 00:46:43,235 --> 00:46:45,150 We'll leave upon you the decision 798 00:46:45,193 --> 00:46:48,022 to leave the hotel or stay. 799 00:46:48,066 --> 00:46:51,243 We'll help to organize this at a point in the hotel. 800 00:46:51,286 --> 00:46:54,463 In a crisis, you will get the shelter. 801 00:46:54,507 --> 00:46:57,162 In the announcement of this threat, 802 00:46:57,205 --> 00:46:59,599 use stairwell down to the lobby. 803 00:46:59,642 --> 00:47:01,862 Follow staff instructions. 804 00:47:01,906 --> 00:47:03,081 You will be leaded to the shelter place. 805 00:47:03,124 --> 00:47:04,865 - The air raid sirens had escorted us 806 00:47:04,909 --> 00:47:07,781 into the day break of the 24th. 807 00:47:07,825 --> 00:47:10,697 The modern country was suddenly at war. 808 00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:14,179 It was a sad, surreal, and shocking day. 809 00:47:14,222 --> 00:47:16,094 But admittedly, one also surrenders 810 00:47:16,137 --> 00:47:17,965 to some exhilaration. 811 00:47:18,009 --> 00:47:21,403 It keeps you awake when sleep is a distant memory. 812 00:47:21,447 --> 00:47:23,666 And though completely unexpected, 813 00:47:23,710 --> 00:47:25,668 the president's office confirmed 814 00:47:25,712 --> 00:47:29,194 that the president would still keep our appointment. 815 00:47:29,237 --> 00:47:31,805 ♪ 816 00:47:31,849 --> 00:47:35,069 - President Biden unleashed new sanctions against Russia. 817 00:47:35,113 --> 00:47:37,811 - This aggression cannot go unanswered. 818 00:47:37,855 --> 00:47:41,902 America stands up to bullies. We stand up for freedom. 819 00:47:41,946 --> 00:47:44,296 - President Biden has said again and again 820 00:47:44,339 --> 00:47:47,473 no U.S. troops will be involved in this war. 821 00:47:47,516 --> 00:47:50,128 - I assumed that journalist and quasi-journalists 822 00:47:50,171 --> 00:47:52,521 around the world would scoff, 823 00:47:52,565 --> 00:47:54,915 but there was not one cell in my body 824 00:47:54,959 --> 00:47:57,831 willing to prepare a question for the president, 825 00:47:57,875 --> 00:48:00,703 not on a day like this. 826 00:48:00,747 --> 00:48:02,836 I hoped the film would be useful. 827 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,403 That's about it. 828 00:48:04,446 --> 00:48:07,667 ♪ 829 00:48:36,261 --> 00:48:39,090 - This is the center of the universe 830 00:48:39,133 --> 00:48:43,094 for democracy today, right now. 831 00:49:07,857 --> 00:49:09,555 - Okay, we have ten minutes for that. 832 00:49:09,598 --> 00:49:12,471 [both speaking native language] 833 00:49:12,514 --> 00:49:14,386 [indistinct chatter] 834 00:49:20,087 --> 00:49:27,399 ♪ 835 00:49:28,661 --> 00:49:30,968 - We knew by that time about the Russian commandos 836 00:49:31,011 --> 00:49:33,187 that had taken the airport. 837 00:49:33,231 --> 00:49:35,407 And that was only about 15 kilometers away. 838 00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:37,539 [explosion] 839 00:49:37,583 --> 00:49:39,715 There was talk about how long it would take 840 00:49:39,759 --> 00:49:43,589 for the Russians to completely encircle Kyiv. 841 00:49:43,632 --> 00:49:48,202 It was imminent. 842 00:49:48,246 --> 00:49:55,166 ♪ 843 00:49:59,735 --> 00:50:02,564 - Hi. 844 00:50:04,610 --> 00:50:06,481 - I'm well. 845 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:12,678 ♪ 846 00:51:12,721 --> 00:51:15,811 - [speaking in native language] 847 00:51:50,019 --> 00:51:52,196 - To be here at this time, in this country, 848 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,633 with you, with your countrymen, 849 00:51:54,676 --> 00:51:58,419 I mean, there's so much inspiration to be had here. 850 00:52:32,453 --> 00:52:33,802 - Where does it end? I mean, what does he want? 851 00:52:33,846 --> 00:52:36,109 What does he--what is the-- 852 00:53:29,075 --> 00:53:30,685 - Rosa arrange this. - Yes. Right. 853 00:53:30,729 --> 00:53:32,774 [indistinct chatter] 854 00:53:38,780 --> 00:53:41,218 - Please don't say you were in the bunker. 855 00:53:41,261 --> 00:53:42,610 - No. 856 00:53:42,654 --> 00:53:43,437 - You say only Office of President. 857 00:53:43,481 --> 00:53:47,049 - Okay. 858 00:53:49,095 --> 00:53:52,751 Oh, man. 859 00:53:52,794 --> 00:53:55,406 - Right. No, we're the good guys. 860 00:53:59,279 --> 00:54:00,193 - Yeah. 861 00:54:02,456 --> 00:54:04,371 - Yeah. 862 00:54:06,155 --> 00:54:07,896 - Yeah. 863 00:54:14,816 --> 00:54:17,341 Bye-bye. 864 00:54:22,694 --> 00:54:25,174 - Yeah. 865 00:54:29,570 --> 00:54:31,137 Who's the Zoom with? 866 00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:33,618 - With Ksenia Sobchak--Russia-- who's staying in Moscow. 867 00:54:33,661 --> 00:54:35,924 - Okay, but is it on TV or just a person? 868 00:54:35,968 --> 00:54:37,578 - On TV. - You think it's TV? 869 00:54:37,622 --> 00:54:38,623 - Yes. - Russian TV? 870 00:54:38,666 --> 00:54:40,102 - Russian TV. - Okay. 871 00:54:40,146 --> 00:54:42,714 All right, let me tell him. 872 00:54:58,338 --> 00:55:00,819 - Thank you for coming out to our broadcast. 873 00:55:00,862 --> 00:55:05,214 Sean, tell us, please, where are you, first of all? 874 00:55:05,258 --> 00:55:06,781 - I am in Kyiv. 875 00:55:06,825 --> 00:55:08,957 - Why you're in Kyiv? 876 00:55:09,001 --> 00:55:11,438 Were you aware of the threat 877 00:55:11,482 --> 00:55:13,310 you're facing there? 878 00:55:13,353 --> 00:55:15,747 - Well, I think all reasonable people were considering 879 00:55:15,790 --> 00:55:17,270 all possibilities. 880 00:55:17,314 --> 00:55:20,360 - As far as I know, as far as I understand, 881 00:55:20,404 --> 00:55:24,408 today you met with President Zelensky. 882 00:55:24,451 --> 00:55:27,889 What were the things you were discussing? 883 00:55:27,933 --> 00:55:31,545 - What an unimaginable position-- 884 00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:35,157 it is my thought-- that any man or woman 885 00:55:35,201 --> 00:55:37,116 in this world could be in. 886 00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:40,989 I believe with everything in my heart 887 00:55:41,033 --> 00:55:42,948 that this is a man of love, 888 00:55:42,991 --> 00:55:47,822 intelligence, and courage, 889 00:55:47,866 --> 00:55:52,218 and I still believe love is proving itself 890 00:55:52,261 --> 00:55:54,786 to be the most powerful weapon on Earth. 891 00:55:58,093 --> 00:56:00,922 - Protests tonight across Russia 892 00:56:00,966 --> 00:56:03,316 in more than 50 cities. 893 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,406 - How much resistance is there to President Putin? 894 00:56:09,278 --> 00:56:10,410 - These Russians 895 00:56:10,454 --> 00:56:13,587 need to be the example of peace 896 00:56:13,631 --> 00:56:14,893 for the rest of the world. 897 00:56:14,936 --> 00:56:17,156 This is the height of that moment 898 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:19,332 in my lifetime, certainly, 899 00:56:19,376 --> 00:56:23,728 and I think we can all assume, perhaps, ever. 900 00:56:23,771 --> 00:56:28,385 ♪ 901 00:56:32,214 --> 00:56:34,478 [tense music] 902 00:57:01,766 --> 00:57:03,985 Okay, any questions? - Yes. 903 00:57:04,029 --> 00:57:05,987 Is there a weapon in the bunch? Where is it? 904 00:57:07,249 --> 00:57:13,168 ♪ 905 00:58:10,399 --> 00:58:12,793 - Oh, my God. 906 00:58:20,584 --> 00:58:27,504 ♪ 907 00:58:31,203 --> 00:58:33,161 - Russia's brutal war on Ukraine 908 00:58:33,205 --> 00:58:34,728 begins its second day. 909 00:58:34,772 --> 00:58:41,692 ♪ 910 00:58:43,607 --> 00:58:44,869 - Right now, I-- 911 00:58:44,912 --> 00:58:46,348 we've been, like, 912 00:58:46,392 --> 00:58:50,135 for the last 12 hours, we've been on the road 913 00:58:50,178 --> 00:58:52,616 kind of zigzagging to get to the Polish border 914 00:58:52,659 --> 00:58:56,533 going a foot at a time in cars on different roads, 915 00:58:56,576 --> 00:58:59,753 because they bombed out a bridge on one, 916 00:58:59,797 --> 00:59:02,713 and it's just a lot of, you know-- 917 00:59:02,756 --> 00:59:04,453 but I'm completely fine. 918 00:59:04,497 --> 00:59:07,500 And we got to shoot with the president. 919 00:59:07,544 --> 00:59:09,676 Just moving. 920 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,331 - Ukrainian president Zelensky 921 00:59:12,374 --> 00:59:13,854 remains in the capital 922 00:59:13,898 --> 00:59:15,464 despite threats from the Kremlin 923 00:59:15,508 --> 00:59:16,683 against his young family. 924 00:59:23,864 --> 00:59:27,041 - Reports emerged the Americans had offered an evacuation, 925 00:59:27,085 --> 00:59:31,089 to which Mr. Zelensky replied... 926 00:59:56,636 --> 00:59:59,247 - How many kilometers away are we, 20? 927 00:59:59,291 --> 01:00:00,771 - About 28. 928 01:00:00,814 --> 01:00:03,904 - Hey. Yeah, so we're just going to abandon this. 929 01:00:03,948 --> 01:00:06,472 There's no order to it. 930 01:00:06,515 --> 01:00:08,648 ♪ 931 01:00:08,692 --> 01:00:09,954 - Let's see if there's a dirt road 932 01:00:09,997 --> 01:00:12,565 behind those trees. 933 01:00:34,326 --> 01:00:36,894 - All right, this is it? This is all we're taking? 934 01:00:50,037 --> 01:00:51,560 You're going to take that backpack and your other bag. 935 01:00:51,604 --> 01:00:52,997 - I got it. - You need to put the backpack 936 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,433 on properly. 937 01:00:54,476 --> 01:00:55,652 - Hey. How you doing? 938 01:00:55,695 --> 01:00:56,696 - Hey. How are you? 939 01:01:00,526 --> 01:01:02,310 - It is, man. It is. It is. 940 01:01:02,354 --> 01:01:05,183 My wife's devastated. 941 01:01:05,226 --> 01:01:06,706 - It's unbelievable. It's surreal. 942 01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:08,186 - It's crazy. 943 01:01:08,229 --> 01:01:10,667 - Come on, Mick. 944 01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:12,059 - Now they're just picking up everyone. 945 01:01:12,103 --> 01:01:13,713 - Yeah. 946 01:01:13,757 --> 01:01:17,195 - I mean, it's unreal what's happening. 947 01:01:17,238 --> 01:01:20,807 - Yeah, man. Mickey. - Yeah? 948 01:01:24,637 --> 01:01:26,117 - All right, man. - All right, man, cool. 949 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,076 [light music] 950 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,426 ♪ 951 01:01:31,470 --> 01:01:34,734 - While the men of Ukraine ages 18 to 60 952 01:01:34,778 --> 01:01:36,431 were compelled to stay in country 953 01:01:36,475 --> 01:01:38,695 and get into the fight, 954 01:01:38,738 --> 01:01:42,524 women and children dominantly occupied these miles and miles 955 01:01:42,568 --> 01:01:46,354 of cars inching their way toward the Polish border. 956 01:01:46,398 --> 01:01:50,619 These heroic women set off to a different front line 957 01:01:50,663 --> 01:01:53,187 and the heartbreak of husbands, fathers, 958 01:01:53,231 --> 01:01:55,799 brothers, sons, and businesses 959 01:01:55,842 --> 01:01:57,801 all left behind. 960 01:01:57,844 --> 01:02:00,934 They fled for their children's safety, 961 01:02:00,978 --> 01:02:06,984 many without any certain destination or support. 962 01:02:07,027 --> 01:02:10,204 Just three days earlier, they were you and me. 963 01:02:12,163 --> 01:02:13,599 [air raid siren blaring] 964 01:02:13,642 --> 01:02:15,732 - War has returned to Europe. 965 01:02:15,775 --> 01:02:18,473 - Explosions and the exodus are only the beginning. 966 01:02:22,564 --> 01:02:23,783 all: Stand with Ukraine! 967 01:02:23,827 --> 01:02:25,089 - The Russian invasion of Ukraine 968 01:02:25,132 --> 01:02:27,134 continues to spark an outcry. 969 01:02:27,178 --> 01:02:29,267 [crowd chanting in native language] 970 01:02:29,310 --> 01:02:31,008 - People around the globe are rallying 971 01:02:31,051 --> 01:02:32,879 in solidarity with Ukraine. 972 01:02:36,448 --> 01:02:37,971 - My feeling is, 973 01:02:38,015 --> 01:02:40,713 I'd rather fail, you know, trying in my little way 974 01:02:40,757 --> 01:02:45,500 to be a uniter, you know, by going and talking to somebody 975 01:02:45,544 --> 01:02:47,676 who's already labeled me full screen 976 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,287 the enemy of the state. 977 01:02:49,330 --> 01:02:50,810 - And finally tonight, the enemy of the state. 978 01:02:50,854 --> 01:02:52,420 This week, actor, activist, 979 01:02:52,464 --> 01:02:54,248 and all-around very angry man 980 01:02:54,292 --> 01:02:56,685 Sean Penn takes the honors. 981 01:02:56,729 --> 01:02:59,601 You are this week's enemy of the state. 982 01:02:59,645 --> 01:03:01,081 - I flip between Fox and CNN. 983 01:03:01,125 --> 01:03:03,040 And, like, each time, it's like, 984 01:03:03,083 --> 01:03:05,607 "Sean Penn's going on 'Hannity.'" 985 01:03:05,651 --> 01:03:09,786 - The least we can do to honor what they're doing is try. 986 01:03:12,397 --> 01:03:15,226 It was important for him to get the word out 987 01:03:15,269 --> 01:03:16,967 about what he had seen, what he had heard, 988 01:03:17,010 --> 01:03:18,055 what he had experienced. 989 01:03:18,098 --> 01:03:19,360 - It's a pleasure. 990 01:03:19,404 --> 01:03:21,885 Thanks for everything. You've been great. 991 01:03:21,928 --> 01:03:24,844 [light music] 992 01:03:24,888 --> 01:03:27,412 ♪ 993 01:03:27,455 --> 01:03:30,502 - If you were on this set, 99 out of 100 times, 994 01:03:30,545 --> 01:03:33,244 we probably would be in full disagreement, right? 995 01:03:33,287 --> 01:03:34,593 - No question about that. 996 01:03:34,636 --> 01:03:36,551 I don't trust you. - [laughs] 997 01:03:36,595 --> 01:03:38,597 Is there a reason you didn't trust me? 998 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,120 - Yeah, there's a lot of reasons I don't trust you, 999 01:03:40,164 --> 01:03:42,731 but I don't think that I've got time 1000 01:03:42,775 --> 01:03:45,560 to indulge my lack of trust, 1001 01:03:45,604 --> 01:03:47,475 which it becomes a petty thing 1002 01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:49,913 as people and babies are being vaporized. 1003 01:03:49,956 --> 01:03:52,524 - A lot of the world didn't think that Putin would do it. 1004 01:03:52,567 --> 01:03:53,873 I did think he would. 1005 01:03:53,917 --> 01:03:55,222 So you get there. 1006 01:03:55,266 --> 01:03:57,050 You're interviewing Zelensky at this time. 1007 01:03:57,094 --> 01:03:58,573 Did he see this coming? 1008 01:03:58,617 --> 01:04:00,314 Did he believe that this was real? 1009 01:04:00,358 --> 01:04:01,707 - Yes. 1010 01:04:01,750 --> 01:04:04,057 He is the face of something that you see 1011 01:04:04,101 --> 01:04:07,800 in all the Ukrainians we saw and talked to 1012 01:04:07,844 --> 01:04:10,542 whether they were in uniform, out of uniform, 1013 01:04:10,585 --> 01:04:13,675 schoolteachers, even children, 1014 01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:16,548 this extraordinary courage that's come up. 1015 01:04:16,591 --> 01:04:20,857 It is clear to me that the Ukrainians will win this. 1016 01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:22,728 The question is, at what cost? 1017 01:04:22,771 --> 01:04:24,295 - In this buildup 1018 01:04:24,338 --> 01:04:27,776 I thought NATO countries and Western European countries 1019 01:04:27,820 --> 01:04:30,605 and the U.S. should have been arming 1020 01:04:30,649 --> 01:04:32,781 the Ukrainians for that moment. 1021 01:04:32,825 --> 01:04:34,871 - This could happen tomorrow also. 1022 01:04:34,914 --> 01:04:37,264 We could get F-15s, F-16s in. 1023 01:04:37,308 --> 01:04:39,223 Then they can fly those with three weeks of training. 1024 01:04:39,266 --> 01:04:41,399 They can fly the MiGs and the Sus now. 1025 01:04:41,442 --> 01:04:43,923 - Poland offered--what was it-- 28 or 29 MiGs. 1026 01:04:43,967 --> 01:04:45,316 - Yeah. 1027 01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:47,927 - Every report says Joe Biden vetoed that. 1028 01:04:47,971 --> 01:04:49,189 Forget politics. 1029 01:04:49,233 --> 01:04:50,843 - Not everybody says he vetoed it. 1030 01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:53,324 - Whoever vetoed it, Ronald Reagan had a doctrine. 1031 01:04:53,367 --> 01:04:56,283 And the doctrine was in the case of the former Soviet Union 1032 01:04:56,327 --> 01:04:58,938 invading Afghanistan in the '80s, 1033 01:04:58,982 --> 01:05:01,332 he supplied Stinger missiles to the mujahideen. 1034 01:05:01,375 --> 01:05:03,334 I support that doctrine. 1035 01:05:03,377 --> 01:05:05,205 I support the Trump doctrine that, 1036 01:05:05,249 --> 01:05:08,078 if you're gonna fight a war you push buttons 1037 01:05:08,121 --> 01:05:11,124 using new military weaponry and technology, 1038 01:05:11,168 --> 01:05:12,386 and you bomb the shit out of-- 1039 01:05:12,430 --> 01:05:13,648 - Okay, but I would argue... - Hang on. 1040 01:05:13,692 --> 01:05:15,128 - You've made this political, 1041 01:05:15,172 --> 01:05:16,434 and now give me a chance to respond to it. 1042 01:05:16,477 --> 01:05:17,826 - Hang on. I will. 1043 01:05:17,870 --> 01:05:19,567 - Because I'm not talking about anybody's doctrine 1044 01:05:19,611 --> 01:05:21,874 that got us into a lot of other crap. 1045 01:05:21,918 --> 01:05:24,616 - Republicans and Democrats, they're all gung ho. 1046 01:05:24,659 --> 01:05:26,183 They start these wars. 1047 01:05:26,226 --> 01:05:28,011 They don't fight them to win them. 1048 01:05:28,054 --> 01:05:29,838 - We--we absolutely agree on that. 1049 01:05:29,882 --> 01:05:31,188 - And fight the war to win it. - That's right. 1050 01:05:31,231 --> 01:05:33,233 - And that means to defeat Russa-- 1051 01:05:33,277 --> 01:05:35,540 - Or let them fight it to win it, because they will. 1052 01:05:35,583 --> 01:05:36,671 - Well, that's what I'm saying. 1053 01:05:36,715 --> 01:05:37,977 Let the Ukrainians fight themselves. 1054 01:05:38,021 --> 01:05:40,197 - Yeah, we agree. You and I can argue all day. 1055 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,938 But I look at you, and I think you believe 1056 01:05:41,981 --> 01:05:43,722 in this country in your way. 1057 01:05:43,765 --> 01:05:45,202 I believe in it in mine. - 100% 1058 01:05:45,245 --> 01:05:49,467 - When you step into a country of such incredible unity, 1059 01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:52,035 you realize what we've all been missing. 1060 01:05:52,078 --> 01:05:54,559 - You'll never talk politics with me on this show, will you? 1061 01:05:54,602 --> 01:05:55,734 - We--we've all got to figure out-- 1062 01:05:55,777 --> 01:05:56,996 - Wasn't that bad. 1063 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,390 Do you trust me now more than you did? 1064 01:05:59,433 --> 01:06:01,435 - There's a lot of physical therapy necessary 1065 01:06:01,479 --> 01:06:04,221 after a big car accident. 1066 01:06:04,264 --> 01:06:05,700 You don't get it all done in a day. 1067 01:06:05,744 --> 01:06:07,833 - Our prayers are with the innocent, 1068 01:06:07,876 --> 01:06:09,530 and I wish you luck in helping them. 1069 01:06:09,574 --> 01:06:11,706 - And the heroes who are fighting for them. 1070 01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:14,622 - Next time we'll battle over Hugo Chávez or something fun. 1071 01:06:14,666 --> 01:06:16,015 - That's an interesting conversation. 1072 01:06:16,059 --> 01:06:17,016 - All right. - All right. 1073 01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:19,018 - Thank you for being with us. 1074 01:06:19,062 --> 01:06:20,802 - Former Speaker of the House, Fox News contributor 1075 01:06:20,846 --> 01:06:22,282 Newt Gingrich is with us. 1076 01:06:22,326 --> 01:06:25,242 Your thoughts on the conversation and more. 1077 01:06:25,285 --> 01:06:29,463 - That may have been one of the most impactful 1078 01:06:29,507 --> 01:06:33,337 and amazing interviews of your entire career. 1079 01:06:33,380 --> 01:06:35,904 - I'm going to talk to Sean Hannity, 1080 01:06:35,948 --> 01:06:38,733 to Fox News, MSNBC. 1081 01:06:38,777 --> 01:06:41,475 I'm going to go do talks at presidential libraries. 1082 01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:42,694 We're going to get this message out 1083 01:06:42,737 --> 01:06:43,912 and help get what Ukraine needs. 1084 01:06:43,956 --> 01:06:46,480 - You called and said get the hell out, 1085 01:06:46,524 --> 01:06:48,352 get the F out, whatever. - Yeah, yeah. 1086 01:06:48,395 --> 01:06:50,006 There's going to be a serious attempt 1087 01:06:50,049 --> 01:06:53,226 at a quick decapitation strike with the Russian paratroopers. 1088 01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:56,403 - The Ukrainians had something to say about that, obviously. 1089 01:06:56,447 --> 01:06:59,015 - Every fundraiser I've been to, every event I've been to 1090 01:06:59,058 --> 01:07:00,842 for the last several months, 1091 01:07:00,886 --> 01:07:02,192 people are up in arms over Ukraine. 1092 01:07:02,235 --> 01:07:04,368 - I mean, when we do the stories, 1093 01:07:04,411 --> 01:07:05,760 the ratings go through the roof. 1094 01:07:05,804 --> 01:07:06,979 - Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome 1095 01:07:07,023 --> 01:07:08,111 our distinguished panel. 1096 01:07:08,154 --> 01:07:10,939 [applause] 1097 01:07:10,983 --> 01:07:12,289 - It's amazing to see the Ukrainians 1098 01:07:12,332 --> 01:07:14,117 and the resilience. 1099 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,945 The Ukrainians are fighting and fighting hard. 1100 01:07:16,989 --> 01:07:19,383 And you think Ukraine can win this. 1101 01:07:19,426 --> 01:07:23,169 - I'd go further, and, you know, I wager everything. 1102 01:07:23,213 --> 01:07:25,258 The Ukrainians are going to win. 1103 01:07:25,302 --> 01:07:27,434 And what we're going to be doing is saying, 1104 01:07:27,478 --> 01:07:30,263 "How many lives did we let them lose?" 1105 01:07:30,307 --> 01:07:32,352 - You know, in Zelensky, this is a leader 1106 01:07:32,396 --> 01:07:35,486 who is pretty remarkable in this moment. 1107 01:07:35,529 --> 01:07:40,012 - Part of what makes him so particularly extraordinary 1108 01:07:40,056 --> 01:07:41,709 is that in that courage, he's the face 1109 01:07:41,753 --> 01:07:44,451 of so many Ukrainians. 1110 01:07:44,495 --> 01:07:46,584 This is leadership. 1111 01:07:46,627 --> 01:07:48,760 No one on the planet's been tested 1112 01:07:48,803 --> 01:07:51,067 in leadership like this one human being. 1113 01:07:51,110 --> 01:07:52,938 - Mr. President, what is it... - Tonight 1114 01:07:52,981 --> 01:07:54,635 a world-exclusive interview. - What is the situation? 1115 01:07:54,679 --> 01:07:56,637 - Thank you so much for talking. 1116 01:07:56,681 --> 01:07:57,986 - Thank you very much. 1117 01:07:58,030 --> 01:08:01,207 - If you do win, will Vladimir Putin survive? 1118 01:08:04,167 --> 01:08:06,038 - You know, Ronald Reagan once said, 1119 01:08:06,082 --> 01:08:09,128 "I don't know how anyone could have held this position 1120 01:08:09,172 --> 01:08:11,652 without having had acting ability." 1121 01:08:11,696 --> 01:08:13,654 And he said, "The ability to be a good actor 1122 01:08:13,698 --> 01:08:15,830 is to be yourself when the camera comes on." 1123 01:08:15,874 --> 01:08:17,354 [sirens wailing] 1124 01:08:17,397 --> 01:08:19,965 When Zelensky got elected, a lot of people 1125 01:08:20,008 --> 01:08:21,314 made the comparisons to Ronald Reagan. 1126 01:08:21,358 --> 01:08:23,751 And, "He's an actor, and he's not prepared." 1127 01:08:23,795 --> 01:08:26,624 And yet Zelensky is just himself, 1128 01:08:26,667 --> 01:08:27,799 when the camera's on, when it's off. 1129 01:08:27,841 --> 01:08:30,323 He is who he is. 1130 01:08:30,367 --> 01:08:33,979 This moment right now, he is perfect. 1131 01:08:34,022 --> 01:08:36,154 - The Ukrainian president has been praised 1132 01:08:36,198 --> 01:08:38,417 as a master of social media. 1133 01:08:38,462 --> 01:08:40,246 - I mean, one thing that's very important to remember 1134 01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:41,551 is, he is a performer. 1135 01:08:41,595 --> 01:08:43,162 - Social media has allowed him 1136 01:08:43,206 --> 01:08:45,685 to dominate the information war. 1137 01:08:45,729 --> 01:08:47,645 - He has the bully pulpit now. 1138 01:08:47,688 --> 01:08:49,647 People feel comfortable that he has a vision now. 1139 01:08:51,388 --> 01:08:52,911 - All three of you really being versed 1140 01:08:52,953 --> 01:08:54,304 in this over time, 1141 01:08:54,346 --> 01:08:56,219 take me back before the invasion. 1142 01:08:56,261 --> 01:09:00,310 - 1999, I had an opportunity to do a project in Ukraine, 1143 01:09:00,353 --> 01:09:01,702 and I was in Ukraine until a month ago, 1144 01:09:01,746 --> 01:09:03,487 two days before the war. 1145 01:09:03,529 --> 01:09:05,618 - I was in 2008 when the second invasion 1146 01:09:05,662 --> 01:09:07,185 happened in Georgia. 1147 01:09:07,229 --> 01:09:09,580 We got in, and we were lucky we got out. 1148 01:09:09,622 --> 01:09:12,712 - I was in Iraq in 2007, 2008 during the surge. 1149 01:09:12,756 --> 01:09:14,889 - So I was the main interpreter for Lech Walesa. 1150 01:09:14,933 --> 01:09:18,328 So I was all over Central and Eastern Europe. 1151 01:09:18,371 --> 01:09:20,982 Yeah, so I've seen a lot of stuff. 1152 01:09:21,026 --> 01:09:24,247 And I've seen regression. 1153 01:09:24,290 --> 01:09:25,377 And it breaks my heart. 1154 01:09:25,421 --> 01:09:27,292 I was sent twice... 1155 01:09:27,337 --> 01:09:29,165 - What does the healing look like 1156 01:09:29,207 --> 01:09:32,429 between Russians and Ukrainians? 1157 01:09:32,471 --> 01:09:35,562 - Unless they kick the Russians out 1158 01:09:35,606 --> 01:09:37,303 or the Russians take off 1159 01:09:37,346 --> 01:09:40,872 and literally give everything back to the Ukrainians 1160 01:09:40,915 --> 01:09:45,093 that would be perhaps the beginning, 1161 01:09:45,136 --> 01:09:48,227 except when you look at the number of dead civilians 1162 01:09:48,270 --> 01:09:51,055 and children and women and old people 1163 01:09:51,099 --> 01:09:52,710 that the Russians, they've been killing. 1164 01:09:52,752 --> 01:09:55,626 [somber music] 1165 01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:56,888 - Go this way, guys. 1166 01:09:56,931 --> 01:10:03,851 ♪ 1167 01:10:07,681 --> 01:10:11,032 - Thank you very much for talking with us. 1168 01:10:11,076 --> 01:10:12,904 What is your assessment? 1169 01:10:35,753 --> 01:10:38,625 - Taking Ukraine may come easy to the overwhelming Russian... 1170 01:10:38,669 --> 01:10:40,236 - Like just come out of an intelligence 1171 01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:41,846 with a Western official. 1172 01:10:41,889 --> 01:10:44,414 Ukraine is in a battle for its life right now. 1173 01:10:44,457 --> 01:10:45,980 - Ukraine's capital city of Kyiv 1174 01:10:46,024 --> 01:10:47,286 might soon fall to Russian forces. 1175 01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:50,289 - Russia's actions are outrageous. 1176 01:10:50,333 --> 01:10:53,597 Every hour of inaction now is a threat to the lives 1177 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,076 of Ukrainians. 1178 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,384 Ukraine loses the war, there will be no Ukraine. 1179 01:10:58,428 --> 01:11:01,257 And when stakes are so high for us, 1180 01:11:01,300 --> 01:11:03,215 of course we will keep fighting. 1181 01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:04,434 Whatever it takes. 1182 01:11:04,477 --> 01:11:06,436 - [speaking in native language] 1183 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:07,698 [all speaking in native language] 1184 01:11:07,741 --> 01:11:09,874 - The people are mobilizing. 1185 01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:11,310 - People signing up to fight. 1186 01:11:11,354 --> 01:11:13,312 People bringing in supplies, 1187 01:11:13,356 --> 01:11:15,314 anything they think that will help 1188 01:11:15,358 --> 01:11:17,011 the Ukrainian war effort. 1189 01:11:17,055 --> 01:11:19,362 - We never seek to leave. 1190 01:11:19,405 --> 01:11:20,624 This our homes. 1191 01:11:20,667 --> 01:11:23,757 We defend our children, family, 1192 01:11:23,801 --> 01:11:26,673 our buildings, our city, and our future, 1193 01:11:26,717 --> 01:11:27,848 future of Ukraine. 1194 01:11:27,892 --> 01:11:29,328 [cannon booming] 1195 01:11:29,372 --> 01:11:30,764 - Can Ukraine outright win this war? 1196 01:11:30,808 --> 01:11:32,288 - Ukrainian resistance 1197 01:11:32,331 --> 01:11:36,074 is having a huge battlefield impact. 1198 01:11:36,117 --> 01:11:38,032 - There's a recording between Ukrainian 1199 01:11:38,076 --> 01:11:39,773 and Russian forces. 1200 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,388 - Snake Island, and appears to have been 1201 01:11:45,431 --> 01:11:47,825 attacked by a Russian warship. 1202 01:11:54,484 --> 01:11:56,007 - The man behind those words 1203 01:11:56,050 --> 01:11:58,183 was awarded a medal for his bravery. 1204 01:11:58,226 --> 01:12:00,272 - Now we've seen impressive gains 1205 01:12:00,316 --> 01:12:03,014 by the Ukrainian army. 1206 01:12:03,057 --> 01:12:05,451 - Russia's flagship vessel, the "Moskva." 1207 01:12:05,495 --> 01:12:08,411 - Ukraine says it hit the ship with cruise missiles 1208 01:12:08,454 --> 01:12:09,803 launched from the coast. 1209 01:12:09,847 --> 01:12:11,370 - President Volodymyr Zelensky 1210 01:12:11,414 --> 01:12:13,329 visited at extreme risk. 1211 01:12:13,372 --> 01:12:15,418 - Tonight a stunning breakthrough. 1212 01:12:15,461 --> 01:12:17,985 - How are the Ukrainians pulling this off? 1213 01:12:18,029 --> 01:12:19,900 [indistinct chatter] 1214 01:12:31,782 --> 01:12:33,087 [laughter] 1215 01:12:33,131 --> 01:12:34,785 - Nobody believed in us. 1216 01:12:39,311 --> 01:12:42,053 - "Oh, they're going-- you know, they will fail." 1217 01:12:42,096 --> 01:12:46,187 And now the whole world is basically watching. 1218 01:12:47,188 --> 01:12:51,236 - This moment in Ukraine to represent a human phenomenon. 1219 01:13:00,376 --> 01:13:01,812 Like, everyone who I was calling 1220 01:13:01,855 --> 01:13:03,596 was doing something for the army. 1221 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,293 It was such a huge network of volunteers. 1222 01:13:05,337 --> 01:13:08,775 - Ukraine is extremely united right now 1223 01:13:08,819 --> 01:13:11,387 for so many of us. 1224 01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:14,433 And it gives us strength, 1225 01:13:14,477 --> 01:13:16,914 and that's why we are not-- we are not afraid, 1226 01:13:16,957 --> 01:13:20,091 because we realize that they have to kill all of us. 1227 01:13:20,134 --> 01:13:23,355 [indistinct chatter] 1228 01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:27,054 - In Ukraine it's not difficult 1229 01:13:27,098 --> 01:13:31,319 to find a great diversity in political opinion. 1230 01:13:31,363 --> 01:13:33,452 Just as in the U.S. one can find 1231 01:13:33,496 --> 01:13:36,455 every impassioned nationalist idea, 1232 01:13:36,499 --> 01:13:40,067 every impassioned humanist idea. 1233 01:13:40,111 --> 01:13:43,897 And yet they've someone found a complete recognition 1234 01:13:43,941 --> 01:13:47,248 in the interdependence that allows for independence. 1235 01:13:49,033 --> 01:13:51,514 It's tangible. 1236 01:13:51,557 --> 01:13:54,038 - President Zelensky called on the United States 1237 01:13:54,081 --> 01:13:55,431 to send more weapons. 1238 01:13:55,474 --> 01:13:58,042 - They asked for heavier weapons faster. 1239 01:13:58,085 --> 01:14:02,438 - The Pentagon has rejected a surprise offer from Poland 1240 01:14:02,481 --> 01:14:05,397 to fly all of its MiGs to a U.S. airbase in Germany. 1241 01:14:05,441 --> 01:14:08,922 - Saying it risks setting off a wider war with Russia. 1242 01:14:08,966 --> 01:14:12,839 - We continue. We continue fighting. 1243 01:14:12,883 --> 01:14:14,362 We just need support. 1244 01:14:14,406 --> 01:14:19,063 I--I need to say to you, because you're our friends, 1245 01:14:19,106 --> 01:14:21,239 that we still waiting. 1246 01:14:21,282 --> 01:14:23,415 We still talking every day 1247 01:14:23,459 --> 01:14:25,809 with international war leaders. 1248 01:14:25,852 --> 01:14:29,421 We need some help by the weapons. 1249 01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:33,425 We still, for example, waiting this jet 1250 01:14:33,469 --> 01:14:35,601 from Poland. - Right. 1251 01:14:35,645 --> 01:14:37,081 - Thank you, Sean. Thank you. 1252 01:14:37,124 --> 01:14:39,997 Thank you very much, my friend. 1253 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,347 - The people and government of Poland 1254 01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:44,349 had opened their hearts and borders 1255 01:14:44,392 --> 01:14:46,873 to some 8 million Ukrainian refugees 1256 01:14:46,917 --> 01:14:48,527 but found challenges when seeking 1257 01:14:48,571 --> 01:14:50,181 to provide fighter jets. 1258 01:14:50,224 --> 01:14:53,532 What did happen with the MiG proposal? 1259 01:14:53,576 --> 01:14:56,100 - We don't want to act unilaterally. 1260 01:14:56,143 --> 01:14:59,146 Such weapons like the jet fighters, 1261 01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:01,671 it would require the NATO, 1262 01:15:01,714 --> 01:15:05,544 and our collective decision was not to go 1263 01:15:05,588 --> 01:15:10,723 farther with our action of delivering the MiGs. 1264 01:15:10,767 --> 01:15:15,772 - Some countries make the point that Ukraine 1265 01:15:15,815 --> 01:15:18,514 should only be provided with defensive weapons 1266 01:15:18,557 --> 01:15:22,518 and we should not receive any offensive weapons. 1267 01:15:22,561 --> 01:15:26,130 The real point is that any weapon 1268 01:15:26,173 --> 01:15:29,002 that is being used by Ukrainian army 1269 01:15:29,046 --> 01:15:32,702 in the territory of Ukraine is defensive by definition. 1270 01:15:32,745 --> 01:15:35,226 Because we are not using it to attack anyone. 1271 01:15:35,269 --> 01:15:37,620 We are using it to defend ourselves. 1272 01:15:37,663 --> 01:15:43,408 We don't have the feeling that neither Poland 1273 01:15:43,451 --> 01:15:45,584 or the United States are not willing 1274 01:15:45,628 --> 01:15:48,065 to do something for Ukraine. 1275 01:15:48,108 --> 01:15:51,938 But they do have differences in understanding 1276 01:15:51,982 --> 01:15:53,897 who will assume the responsibility 1277 01:15:53,940 --> 01:15:55,463 for making the decision. 1278 01:15:55,507 --> 01:15:59,816 Use the bloody weapons necessary to win. 1279 01:15:59,859 --> 01:16:01,948 - Ukraine needs weapon supplies. 1280 01:16:01,992 --> 01:16:05,952 We need heavy artillery, armed vehicles, 1281 01:16:05,996 --> 01:16:09,521 air defense systems, and combat aircraft, 1282 01:16:09,565 --> 01:16:11,958 anything to repel Russian forces 1283 01:16:12,002 --> 01:16:13,743 and stop their war crimes. 1284 01:16:13,786 --> 01:16:17,398 Arm Ukraine now to defend freedom. 1285 01:16:17,442 --> 01:16:20,140 - It's an apocalyptic vision. 1286 01:16:20,184 --> 01:16:23,143 - How much more can the civilians withstand? 1287 01:16:23,187 --> 01:16:26,494 - Accounts of Russian abuses are widespread. 1288 01:16:26,538 --> 01:16:29,976 - We saw undeniable evidence of atrocities. 1289 01:16:30,020 --> 01:16:32,326 - New fallout and outrage 1290 01:16:32,370 --> 01:16:36,330 sparking more calls for a war crimes investigation. 1291 01:16:36,374 --> 01:16:37,810 - I don't want to live in a world 1292 01:16:37,854 --> 01:16:41,074 where a gangster with nukes gets to dictate 1293 01:16:41,118 --> 01:16:42,336 what we have to live under. 1294 01:16:42,380 --> 01:16:43,642 I just don't want to live in that world. 1295 01:16:43,686 --> 01:16:44,730 And the Ukrainians won't live in that world. 1296 01:16:53,304 --> 01:16:54,653 It's a real war. - Mm-hmm. 1297 01:16:54,697 --> 01:16:56,829 - It's in real life. 1298 01:16:56,873 --> 01:16:58,483 - We all thought that Kyiv was going to fall 1299 01:16:58,526 --> 01:17:00,746 in two days, and now here we are. 1300 01:17:00,790 --> 01:17:04,663 - Russia is aware that it's not winning this war. 1301 01:17:04,707 --> 01:17:07,710 - The new narrative is being born right now 1302 01:17:07,753 --> 01:17:09,755 about Ukraine, 1303 01:17:09,799 --> 01:17:11,670 this narrative about very strong, 1304 01:17:11,714 --> 01:17:15,021 brave, courageous country. 1305 01:17:15,065 --> 01:17:17,415 - The recipe of victory 1306 01:17:17,458 --> 01:17:19,765 is Ukrainian stamina 1307 01:17:19,809 --> 01:17:23,639 and Western sanctions and weapons. 1308 01:17:23,682 --> 01:17:28,078 These are the three elements that will make us prevail. 1309 01:17:36,347 --> 01:17:38,088 - The Russians, they have been bloodied. 1310 01:17:38,131 --> 01:17:39,829 - The Russians are taking a tremendous number 1311 01:17:39,872 --> 01:17:41,569 of casualties, 1312 01:17:41,613 --> 01:17:44,442 probably taken 70,000 or 80,000 casualties. 1313 01:17:44,485 --> 01:17:45,835 - I hate to say this. 1314 01:17:45,878 --> 01:17:47,314 You know, these Russian soldiers, 1315 01:17:47,358 --> 01:17:49,969 17, 18, 19 years old, right? 1316 01:17:50,013 --> 01:17:51,928 They're just cannon fodder. 1317 01:17:51,971 --> 01:17:55,540 And they're getting blown to bits by the Ukrainians. 1318 01:17:55,583 --> 01:17:58,456 You've got refrigerator trucks 1319 01:17:58,499 --> 01:18:01,546 and refrigerator train wagons 1320 01:18:01,589 --> 01:18:04,723 full of dead Russian soldiers, 1321 01:18:04,767 --> 01:18:07,465 because Putin does not want society to see this. 1322 01:18:07,508 --> 01:18:09,815 [somber music] 1323 01:18:09,859 --> 01:18:13,166 - Make no mistake, while I believe they're winning, 1324 01:18:13,210 --> 01:18:15,299 the longer that this war goes on, 1325 01:18:15,342 --> 01:18:17,214 the more likely it is 1326 01:18:17,257 --> 01:18:20,304 that it will start to fray and fracture. 1327 01:18:20,347 --> 01:18:23,524 So Mr. Zelensky needs to have an outright win here 1328 01:18:23,568 --> 01:18:24,874 pretty soon. 1329 01:18:28,007 --> 01:18:29,835 [computer line trills] 1330 01:18:33,796 --> 01:18:35,841 - I'm glad to see you, Mr. President. 1331 01:18:35,885 --> 01:18:36,973 How are you holding up? 1332 01:19:14,662 --> 01:19:16,316 - Thank you. - Thank you, Sean. 1333 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,275 All the best. 1334 01:19:18,318 --> 01:19:20,712 - He looks like he's been awake since we saw him. 1335 01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:22,061 - [chuckles] 1336 01:19:25,673 --> 01:19:28,067 - Because the Ukrainians have performed so well, 1337 01:19:28,111 --> 01:19:30,983 because the democratic world has consolidated 1338 01:19:31,027 --> 01:19:32,680 with regard to sanctions 1339 01:19:32,724 --> 01:19:34,421 and supporting Ukraine with weapons, 1340 01:19:34,465 --> 01:19:37,468 it is not going to escalate towards a conventional war 1341 01:19:37,511 --> 01:19:39,687 with NATO 1342 01:19:39,731 --> 01:19:42,516 because we provided the Ukrainians with planes. 1343 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,518 Since before this war, I've been talking 1344 01:19:44,562 --> 01:19:46,956 about giving the Ukrainians weapons to deter Russia. 1345 01:19:46,999 --> 01:19:49,175 We should be able to peer around the corner 1346 01:19:49,219 --> 01:19:51,351 and see how this war is going to unfold, 1347 01:19:51,395 --> 01:19:52,918 the fact that we're going to have to step in 1348 01:19:52,962 --> 01:19:54,311 and provide more. 1349 01:19:54,354 --> 01:19:55,573 But we're going to do it too late, 1350 01:19:55,616 --> 01:19:56,487 and we're going to miss opportunities 1351 01:19:56,530 --> 01:19:57,836 to make this a short war. 1352 01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,011 We're going to miss opportunities 1353 01:19:59,055 --> 01:20:02,145 to reduce the human toll for Ukraine. 1354 01:20:02,188 --> 01:20:03,537 We're going to miss opportunities 1355 01:20:03,581 --> 01:20:04,625 to really decrease the risk for the U.S. 1356 01:20:04,669 --> 01:20:07,672 with a long-war scenario. 1357 01:20:07,715 --> 01:20:10,675 [somber music] 1358 01:20:10,718 --> 01:20:14,374 ♪ 1359 01:20:14,418 --> 01:20:17,856 - [indistinct]. 1360 01:20:17,900 --> 01:20:19,423 - One part of the war that we've gotten 1361 01:20:19,466 --> 01:20:21,381 very little insight into is the battle for the sky. 1362 01:20:21,425 --> 01:20:23,601 - This rumor of the Ghost of Kyiv. 1363 01:20:23,644 --> 01:20:24,950 - The Ghost of Kyiv. 1364 01:20:24,994 --> 01:20:26,691 - The Ghost of Kyiv, they call it. 1365 01:20:27,474 --> 01:20:28,867 - The Russian Air Force has not been able 1366 01:20:28,911 --> 01:20:30,695 to get air supremacy. 1367 01:20:30,738 --> 01:20:32,871 Can you just talk a little bit about why that is? 1368 01:20:32,915 --> 01:20:36,222 - Because they have a fear of our air defense. 1369 01:20:36,266 --> 01:20:40,836 But we need effective tools to do this efficiently. 1370 01:21:16,741 --> 01:21:18,090 [laughter] 1371 01:21:18,134 --> 01:21:19,875 - How do the Russians get stopped? 1372 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,457 - The conflict will be going on for some time, 1373 01:21:37,501 --> 01:21:39,895 and we need the weapons flowing, 1374 01:21:39,938 --> 01:21:42,245 and without U.S. assistance, 1375 01:21:42,288 --> 01:21:44,943 that would be close to not possible. 1376 01:21:44,987 --> 01:21:46,553 We need new fighter jets. 1377 01:22:03,962 --> 01:22:06,617 - That's much more exciting for him than it is for you. 1378 01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:08,140 - Yeah. 1379 01:22:08,184 --> 01:22:11,100 [upbeat rock music] 1380 01:22:11,143 --> 01:22:18,063 ♪ 1381 01:22:32,251 --> 01:22:35,559 - We just watched your movie. 1382 01:22:35,602 --> 01:22:40,694 The next "Top Gun" movie should be made in Ukraine. 1383 01:22:40,738 --> 01:22:42,392 - You know, you put the world on notice 1384 01:22:42,435 --> 01:22:44,002 that Ukraine, you know, 1385 01:22:44,046 --> 01:22:46,744 isn't fucking laying down for anything. 1386 01:22:46,787 --> 01:22:48,833 It's a real honor to talk to you guys. 1387 01:22:48,876 --> 01:22:50,356 - Thank you for support. 1388 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,750 [dramatic music] 1389 01:22:52,793 --> 01:22:54,970 - As this war went on, 1390 01:22:55,013 --> 01:22:57,059 it got more and more difficult 1391 01:22:57,102 --> 01:22:59,365 to keep attention and interest in it. 1392 01:22:59,409 --> 01:23:01,498 - Other stories we're following for you... 1393 01:23:01,541 --> 01:23:04,370 - Will Smith clashed with comedian Chris Rock. 1394 01:23:04,414 --> 01:23:05,981 - There's a time limit. 1395 01:23:06,024 --> 01:23:07,286 - The world watched Johnny Depp's... 1396 01:23:07,330 --> 01:23:08,679 - And there's an energy limit 1397 01:23:08,722 --> 01:23:11,073 to what people can put on the horrors 1398 01:23:11,116 --> 01:23:13,727 of something taking place far away. 1399 01:23:13,771 --> 01:23:15,729 ♪ 1400 01:23:15,773 --> 01:23:17,427 For Sean, it was very important 1401 01:23:17,470 --> 01:23:19,516 to get back to Ukraine... 1402 01:23:19,559 --> 01:23:23,215 ♪ 1403 01:23:23,259 --> 01:23:25,783 Get back to see what's going on 1404 01:23:25,826 --> 01:23:30,266 and experience what it was like now in June. 1405 01:23:30,309 --> 01:23:32,659 And we knew the important thing was getting Sean 1406 01:23:32,703 --> 01:23:33,921 and Zelensky back together. 1407 01:23:33,965 --> 01:23:36,750 ♪ 1408 01:23:36,794 --> 01:23:38,361 [train whistle blows] 1409 01:23:38,404 --> 01:23:40,972 - Ukraine's president is accusing Russia now 1410 01:23:41,016 --> 01:23:43,061 of bombing a crowded shopping mall 1411 01:23:43,105 --> 01:23:43,975 in the eastern part of the country. 1412 01:23:44,019 --> 01:23:46,630 [loud explosion] 1413 01:23:46,673 --> 01:23:50,416 - The capital, Kyiv, once again in the crosshairs. 1414 01:23:50,460 --> 01:23:52,592 - This morning, the most serious attack 1415 01:23:52,636 --> 01:23:55,726 on Kyiv in weeks, two apartment blocks struck. 1416 01:23:55,769 --> 01:23:58,163 - In residential buildings hit by rockets, 1417 01:23:58,207 --> 01:24:02,080 the number of civilian casualties is rising. 1418 01:24:02,124 --> 01:24:03,995 - Is this it? 1419 01:24:04,039 --> 01:24:06,215 - Yeah, this is-- this is it. 1420 01:24:06,258 --> 01:24:13,135 ♪ 1421 01:24:22,622 --> 01:24:26,148 Who's coming? 1422 01:24:26,191 --> 01:24:33,111 ♪ 1423 01:24:35,157 --> 01:24:36,854 Wow. 1424 01:24:52,913 --> 01:24:54,045 This was the living room. 1425 01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:58,049 That was a bedroom and restroom. 1426 01:24:58,093 --> 01:25:00,138 - Yeah, this is not structurally sound anymore, 1427 01:25:00,182 --> 01:25:03,402 is it? - No. 1428 01:25:03,446 --> 01:25:04,969 - So what are you doing now? 1429 01:25:05,012 --> 01:25:08,146 Just hearing out the things that can be salvaged? 1430 01:25:08,190 --> 01:25:09,669 - Yeah, so actually, I asked the military guys 1431 01:25:09,713 --> 01:25:10,975 to help me out. 1432 01:25:11,018 --> 01:25:12,672 They came here. They clear everything. 1433 01:25:12,716 --> 01:25:16,023 They try to make sure that we actually can take anything. 1434 01:25:16,067 --> 01:25:18,896 I tried to find, like, really sensitive stuff, 1435 01:25:18,939 --> 01:25:20,985 like maybe pictures or, like, some other stuff. 1436 01:25:21,028 --> 01:25:22,291 Yeah, that's it. 1437 01:25:22,334 --> 01:25:23,857 Like, I just wanted to find something. 1438 01:25:23,901 --> 01:25:26,251 - What can we help you carry? - Nothing. 1439 01:25:26,295 --> 01:25:27,296 It's done. - It's done. Okay. 1440 01:25:27,339 --> 01:25:28,514 - It's done. 1441 01:25:28,558 --> 01:25:29,820 We took everything that we could. 1442 01:25:29,863 --> 01:25:32,214 That's it. 1443 01:25:32,257 --> 01:25:34,172 Welcome to my home. 1444 01:25:34,216 --> 01:25:37,436 ♪ 1445 01:25:45,096 --> 01:25:48,186 - [indistinct]. 1446 01:26:17,128 --> 01:26:18,825 - Because you can? 1447 01:26:18,869 --> 01:26:21,219 - Because I can. 1448 01:26:21,263 --> 01:26:23,178 - Thank you. 1449 01:26:28,139 --> 01:26:31,273 ♪ 1450 01:26:31,316 --> 01:26:33,362 - And here too. 1451 01:26:33,405 --> 01:26:36,626 [metal clanging] 1452 01:26:49,639 --> 01:26:56,559 ♪ 1453 01:27:10,442 --> 01:27:12,183 - I'm a little bit late. 1454 01:27:12,227 --> 01:27:14,098 Maybe not little. Sorry. I'm so sorry. 1455 01:27:14,141 --> 01:27:15,839 - No, you're fine. 1456 01:27:17,319 --> 01:27:21,714 Once the invasion began, 1457 01:27:21,758 --> 01:27:23,847 what was the first moment 1458 01:27:23,890 --> 01:27:27,416 that you were able to check in with your family? 1459 01:27:27,459 --> 01:27:28,982 ♪ 1460 01:27:29,026 --> 01:27:30,245 - In the night, I think. 1461 01:27:30,288 --> 01:27:32,203 In the night. It was in the night. 1462 01:27:32,247 --> 01:27:34,031 And I had phone call. 1463 01:27:34,074 --> 01:27:37,426 My wife, I said, "Tell children, 1464 01:27:37,469 --> 01:27:40,124 "detailing everything. 1465 01:27:40,167 --> 01:27:43,475 What does it mean, the war with Russia?" 1466 01:27:43,519 --> 01:27:46,173 - The day of the invasion, when you walked in, 1467 01:27:46,217 --> 01:27:48,785 I saw a change in you. 1468 01:27:48,828 --> 01:27:53,485 There was an air of, you were born for this moment. 1469 01:27:53,529 --> 01:27:55,313 It was so clear 1470 01:27:55,357 --> 01:27:58,360 that we were in a moment of... 1471 01:27:58,403 --> 01:28:01,493 extreme history. 1472 01:28:01,537 --> 01:28:04,757 - Everybody has to be-- 1473 01:28:04,801 --> 01:28:08,283 has to become older, older at this moment 1474 01:28:08,326 --> 01:28:11,634 to understand what to do and what we are doing, 1475 01:28:11,677 --> 01:28:15,812 because we need to live in the real life, 1476 01:28:15,855 --> 01:28:18,423 not in fairy tale. 1477 01:28:22,122 --> 01:28:24,255 - There it is. 1478 01:28:26,997 --> 01:28:28,520 - So this is the direct impact crater? 1479 01:28:28,564 --> 01:28:29,478 - Yeah. 1480 01:28:33,699 --> 01:28:35,658 - [indistinct]. 1481 01:28:40,489 --> 01:28:44,319 And he's like wise... 1482 01:28:44,362 --> 01:28:47,452 political man. [chuckles] 1483 01:28:47,496 --> 01:28:51,151 So even our children began because of the war. 1484 01:28:51,195 --> 01:28:53,632 They began to speak, like, you know, 1485 01:28:53,676 --> 01:28:56,243 to speak not like children. 1486 01:28:56,287 --> 01:29:00,378 ♪ 1487 01:29:00,422 --> 01:29:06,036 He understand why I am not with him every day. 1488 01:29:06,079 --> 01:29:09,909 He said to me that, "I understand you, 1489 01:29:09,953 --> 01:29:13,130 "and I think that in the future, 1490 01:29:13,173 --> 01:29:16,307 maybe we can have something like it was before the war." 1491 01:29:16,351 --> 01:29:20,050 He understand that it will not be such way like it was. 1492 01:29:20,093 --> 01:29:25,838 Only now we know what country we have to build. 1493 01:29:25,882 --> 01:29:28,885 I made a lot of decisions. 1494 01:29:28,928 --> 01:29:31,801 For example... 1495 01:29:35,065 --> 01:29:38,808 And we'll see the result only after the war. 1496 01:29:38,851 --> 01:29:42,333 From this point, we can't come back 1497 01:29:42,377 --> 01:29:45,467 to the political, economical 1498 01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:47,251 securities strategy. 1499 01:29:47,294 --> 01:29:50,428 It couldn't be just democracy, 1500 01:29:50,472 --> 01:29:52,648 just liberal attitude to everything. 1501 01:29:52,691 --> 01:29:54,345 It couldn't be so. 1502 01:29:56,826 --> 01:30:02,309 But we should know that soldiers with weapon 1503 01:30:02,353 --> 01:30:05,138 will be in the streets. 1504 01:30:05,182 --> 01:30:08,620 You know, how can everywhere be people with guns? 1505 01:30:08,664 --> 01:30:11,318 Why you are looking what is in my bag 1506 01:30:11,362 --> 01:30:13,451 when I'm entering shops? 1507 01:30:13,495 --> 01:30:15,235 Now we should do it. 1508 01:30:15,279 --> 01:30:18,151 It's a pity. 1509 01:30:18,195 --> 01:30:21,285 It's not about Ukraine. 1510 01:30:21,328 --> 01:30:22,721 That is the result of all the wars. 1511 01:30:35,691 --> 01:30:39,085 - Yeah, this kind of stuff is still shockingly stupid, 1512 01:30:39,129 --> 01:30:43,699 and the idea that one evil little man 1513 01:30:43,742 --> 01:30:47,485 could be so generating the force behind it, 1514 01:30:47,529 --> 01:30:50,270 it's just unimaginable 1515 01:30:50,314 --> 01:30:53,360 and has to change somehow for-- 1516 01:30:53,404 --> 01:30:54,884 I think about it for my kids, 1517 01:30:54,927 --> 01:30:56,363 because everything that happens here 1518 01:30:56,407 --> 01:30:57,756 is going to affect 1519 01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,454 every other place in the world today. 1520 01:30:59,497 --> 01:31:00,803 And I think that's the reason that we're all 1521 01:31:00,846 --> 01:31:02,152 so invested in this, 1522 01:31:02,195 --> 01:31:04,589 and because Ukraine is representing 1523 01:31:04,633 --> 01:31:07,331 the greatest aspirations that we all share. 1524 01:31:07,374 --> 01:31:09,855 ♪ 1525 01:31:09,899 --> 01:31:11,901 - They will not stop... 1526 01:31:11,944 --> 01:31:13,511 never. 1527 01:31:13,555 --> 01:31:15,948 A lot of people die. 1528 01:31:15,992 --> 01:31:17,472 And... [sighs, clears throat] 1529 01:31:17,515 --> 01:31:20,475 so--so it's tragedy, 1530 01:31:20,518 --> 01:31:25,218 but I understood that this tragedy result of the war. 1531 01:31:25,262 --> 01:31:26,350 I understood it. 1532 01:31:26,393 --> 01:31:28,918 They will destroy everything. 1533 01:31:28,961 --> 01:31:32,530 People want to forget what's going on in the East. 1534 01:31:32,574 --> 01:31:36,621 Believe me, now they destroyed everything on the East. 1535 01:31:36,665 --> 01:31:40,930 [indistinct chatter] 1536 01:31:40,973 --> 01:31:42,627 We need to go and talk 1537 01:31:42,671 --> 01:31:45,848 to the soldiers who are fighting the fight 1538 01:31:45,891 --> 01:31:47,850 and spend some time on the front line. 1539 01:31:47,893 --> 01:31:50,461 - Yes, it's possible. We could help. 1540 01:31:50,505 --> 01:31:52,507 We're very interested to show the world 1541 01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:54,465 what's going on here. 1542 01:31:54,509 --> 01:31:55,858 We are fighting. 1543 01:31:55,901 --> 01:31:57,163 We destroyed a lot of Russian troops, 1544 01:31:57,207 --> 01:31:59,426 and they destroyed us. 1545 01:31:59,470 --> 01:32:01,385 That is the war between two. 1546 01:32:01,428 --> 01:32:03,692 They are not waiting, and we are fighting. 1547 01:32:03,735 --> 01:32:05,258 They will dig in. 1548 01:32:05,302 --> 01:32:06,825 So that is the problem. 1549 01:32:06,869 --> 01:32:09,611 We should press on them. 1550 01:32:09,654 --> 01:32:11,569 That's very difficult with such, 1551 01:32:11,613 --> 01:32:14,398 I think, slowly way 1552 01:32:14,441 --> 01:32:17,140 of getting weapons. 1553 01:32:17,183 --> 01:32:20,578 With such speed... 1554 01:32:20,622 --> 01:32:23,320 you can't move forward. 1555 01:32:23,363 --> 01:32:26,323 [somber music] 1556 01:32:26,366 --> 01:32:29,369 ♪ 1557 01:32:29,413 --> 01:32:31,807 - Ukraine is intent on pushing Russian troops 1558 01:32:31,850 --> 01:32:33,591 back to their border with the help 1559 01:32:33,635 --> 01:32:35,985 of advanced long-range missile systems 1560 01:32:36,028 --> 01:32:38,509 en route from the United States. 1561 01:32:38,553 --> 01:32:40,729 - The U.S. is sending artillery rocket systems 1562 01:32:40,772 --> 01:32:42,644 known as HIMARS. 1563 01:32:42,687 --> 01:32:45,734 - The weaponry includes the M142 1564 01:32:45,777 --> 01:32:48,563 high-mobility artillery rocket system. 1565 01:33:20,464 --> 01:33:22,553 - Once you fire from a position, 1566 01:33:22,597 --> 01:33:24,773 does that immediately mean you're gonna move positions? 1567 01:34:01,853 --> 01:34:05,857 I think that because of our proximity now 1568 01:34:05,901 --> 01:34:09,469 to active combat, that's where our sights should be set. 1569 01:34:22,744 --> 01:34:25,703 [tense music] 1570 01:34:25,747 --> 01:34:32,667 ♪ 1571 01:34:34,886 --> 01:34:36,496 - Let's put that in this truck. 1572 01:34:36,540 --> 01:34:38,411 - Yeah, we're gonna do this. 1573 01:34:38,455 --> 01:34:39,804 - Let's do that. - Okay. 1574 01:34:41,937 --> 01:34:43,590 - [speaking in native language] 1575 01:34:45,767 --> 01:34:47,943 Okay. 1576 01:34:47,986 --> 01:34:54,558 ♪ 1577 01:34:54,601 --> 01:34:56,342 - Up. 1578 01:34:56,386 --> 01:34:58,693 - Okay. 1579 01:34:58,736 --> 01:35:00,999 [distant explosion] 1580 01:35:01,043 --> 01:35:04,568 So that means we're getting close. 1581 01:35:04,611 --> 01:35:07,440 ♪ 1582 01:35:16,406 --> 01:35:19,670 During last ten days... 1583 01:35:23,805 --> 01:35:25,284 During last ten days. 1584 01:35:25,328 --> 01:35:28,505 Because shells are going without stopping. 1585 01:35:28,548 --> 01:35:31,334 No stop, shelling without stopping, 1586 01:35:31,377 --> 01:35:33,771 any stopping, different kinds. 1587 01:35:33,815 --> 01:35:37,862 And it's, you know... 1588 01:35:37,906 --> 01:35:40,125 that is what we have. 1589 01:35:40,169 --> 01:35:42,127 - Russia is intensifying its assault 1590 01:35:42,171 --> 01:35:44,129 in the east of Ukraine. 1591 01:35:44,173 --> 01:35:46,958 - And the Ukrainians may have to decide do they, 1592 01:35:47,002 --> 01:35:48,960 as it were, dig in in Severodonetsk, 1593 01:35:49,004 --> 01:35:50,875 or do they give up the city now 1594 01:35:50,919 --> 01:35:52,790 and leave while they can? 1595 01:35:52,834 --> 01:35:59,710 ♪ 1596 01:36:02,408 --> 01:36:03,279 [distant explosion] 1597 01:36:39,054 --> 01:36:42,840 ♪ 1598 01:36:42,884 --> 01:36:45,321 [distant explosion] 1599 01:36:45,364 --> 01:36:52,284 ♪ 1600 01:37:28,059 --> 01:37:30,888 - Can you speak to what importance it was 1601 01:37:30,932 --> 01:37:33,021 to the solidary of this fight 1602 01:37:33,064 --> 01:37:35,632 that the president stayed in Kyiv? 1603 01:38:14,149 --> 01:38:17,456 [distant explosion] 1604 01:38:23,985 --> 01:38:28,250 [chimes clanging] 1605 01:38:28,293 --> 01:38:31,818 - These Russians, they killed a lot of people. 1606 01:38:31,862 --> 01:38:33,908 And it was, for me, shock, 1607 01:38:33,951 --> 01:38:40,044 also for everybody, that they-- 1608 01:38:40,088 --> 01:38:41,872 [speaking in native language] 1609 01:38:41,916 --> 01:38:43,047 - Raped, yeah. 1610 01:38:43,091 --> 01:38:44,875 When they began, when they raped 1611 01:38:44,919 --> 01:38:47,834 some women and some children, it was fuck-- 1612 01:38:47,878 --> 01:38:50,663 I can't find, you know, right words 1613 01:38:50,707 --> 01:38:52,187 and never find. 1614 01:38:52,230 --> 01:38:57,018 I will never find for this, because it was shock. 1615 01:38:57,061 --> 01:38:59,629 So many children, so many blood. 1616 01:38:59,672 --> 01:39:03,720 ♪ 1617 01:39:03,763 --> 01:39:07,245 - Russia is bombing kindergarten schools, 1618 01:39:07,289 --> 01:39:09,726 maternity hospitals. 1619 01:39:09,769 --> 01:39:15,123 ♪ 1620 01:39:15,166 --> 01:39:17,864 - They are crimes. They're not really soldiers. 1621 01:39:17,908 --> 01:39:20,084 They did crime 1622 01:39:20,128 --> 01:39:22,695 against the humanitarian... 1623 01:39:22,739 --> 01:39:25,785 - Right. - Values. 1624 01:39:25,829 --> 01:39:28,266 - Latvian MPs have declared Russia 1625 01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:30,355 a state sponsor of terrorism, 1626 01:39:30,399 --> 01:39:32,053 saying its invasion of Ukraine 1627 01:39:32,096 --> 01:39:34,011 amounted to genocide. 1628 01:39:34,055 --> 01:39:35,708 - Ukrainian officials saying 1629 01:39:35,752 --> 01:39:39,016 there are 1,000 new war crimes investigations 1630 01:39:39,060 --> 01:39:43,325 now underway in just one newly liberated city. 1631 01:39:43,368 --> 01:39:45,675 - For those who've lived under occupation, 1632 01:39:45,718 --> 01:39:48,025 it's been hell. 1633 01:39:48,069 --> 01:39:49,940 - There is very serious erosion 1634 01:39:49,984 --> 01:39:52,334 of moral values in Russia, 1635 01:39:52,377 --> 01:39:53,988 which is dangerous for the whole world. 1636 01:40:34,463 --> 01:40:38,162 - History will remember and talk about Zelensky. 1637 01:40:38,206 --> 01:40:40,295 He went beyond the expectations, 1638 01:40:40,338 --> 01:40:45,039 went beyond what anybody could have imagined he would do. 1639 01:40:45,082 --> 01:40:48,999 But Russia's not going anywhere. 1640 01:40:49,043 --> 01:40:51,567 This toxic environment 1641 01:40:51,610 --> 01:40:56,267 doesn't go away for many, many years. 1642 01:40:56,311 --> 01:40:58,704 - What are the challenges in the short term? 1643 01:40:58,748 --> 01:41:00,793 - To fly, you need two wings. 1644 01:41:00,837 --> 01:41:04,101 Don't give me one wing and waiting, 1645 01:41:04,145 --> 01:41:05,668 when you will fly? 1646 01:41:05,711 --> 01:41:07,757 I will never fly with one wing. 1647 01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:11,587 I need two, and if you want me to fly now, 1648 01:41:11,630 --> 01:41:13,806 I need two now. 1649 01:41:13,850 --> 01:41:20,030 So we should win now, jointly, with all the world now. 1650 01:41:20,074 --> 01:41:23,425 ♪ 1651 01:41:23,468 --> 01:41:26,210 - It's already economic warfare, 1652 01:41:26,254 --> 01:41:29,431 sanctions, energy warfare. 1653 01:41:29,474 --> 01:41:33,304 It's refugee flows destabilizing countries. 1654 01:41:33,348 --> 01:41:36,220 [air raid siren blaring] 1655 01:41:36,264 --> 01:41:39,267 What happens if Russia starts to fracture, 1656 01:41:39,310 --> 01:41:40,572 Chechens start to break off... 1657 01:41:46,970 --> 01:41:49,233 It's a recipe for the Chinas of the world 1658 01:41:49,277 --> 01:41:51,409 to make territorial grabs, 1659 01:41:51,453 --> 01:41:55,370 for the Irans of the world to make territorial grabs. 1660 01:41:55,413 --> 01:41:57,285 - If you want to keep China out of Taiwan, 1661 01:41:57,328 --> 01:41:58,982 keep Ukraine in the fight. 1662 01:41:59,025 --> 01:42:00,288 Push Russia out, 1663 01:42:00,331 --> 01:42:01,811 and keep that fight from coming to us, 1664 01:42:01,854 --> 01:42:04,118 'cause if Ukraine loses, we lose. 1665 01:42:05,467 --> 01:42:08,296 If Ukraine fails, it's not just a failure for democracy. 1666 01:42:08,339 --> 01:42:11,037 It's a failure for the global economy, 1667 01:42:11,081 --> 01:42:13,692 because we're seeing how dependent we all are 1668 01:42:13,736 --> 01:42:15,738 not just on oil and gas, 1669 01:42:15,781 --> 01:42:19,176 but also, global supply chains are affected. 1670 01:42:19,220 --> 01:42:22,005 So their fight is our fight, 1671 01:42:22,048 --> 01:42:24,050 and the tip of the spear right now 1672 01:42:24,094 --> 01:42:25,748 is the fight in Ukraine. 1673 01:42:25,791 --> 01:42:28,446 - And if these people 1674 01:42:28,490 --> 01:42:31,449 are ready to kill children, 1675 01:42:31,493 --> 01:42:34,409 are ready to kill civilians, 1676 01:42:34,452 --> 01:42:37,020 why will they stop? 1677 01:42:37,063 --> 01:42:38,195 For what? 1678 01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:42,460 - If Ukraine not stop the Russia 1679 01:42:42,504 --> 01:42:44,810 and not win, 1680 01:42:44,854 --> 01:42:48,988 they not a reason to stopping in the future. 1681 01:42:49,032 --> 01:42:51,208 Next will be Moldova. 1682 01:42:51,252 --> 01:42:54,211 Next will be Lithuania, Poland. 1683 01:42:54,255 --> 01:42:59,129 It means that it will be war against NATO. 1684 01:42:59,173 --> 01:43:01,958 And it means that, once again, 1685 01:43:02,001 --> 01:43:04,569 American soldiers 1686 01:43:04,613 --> 01:43:08,182 will be sent for the new war in Europe. 1687 01:43:34,164 --> 01:43:39,169 I went many cities, Chicago, Los Angeles, Boston 1688 01:43:39,213 --> 01:43:42,433 what I could with those money I had, 1689 01:43:42,477 --> 01:43:43,913 not a lot of money, 1690 01:43:43,956 --> 01:43:46,829 to understand, what does it mean, democracy? 1691 01:43:46,872 --> 01:43:48,787 What does it mean, feeling-- this feeling... 1692 01:43:50,354 --> 01:43:52,313 I loved to run. 1693 01:43:52,356 --> 01:43:53,531 Especially in the morning, 1694 01:43:53,575 --> 01:43:55,664 you could understand where you live. 1695 01:43:55,707 --> 01:44:02,279 I wanted very much to go to the country 1696 01:44:02,323 --> 01:44:07,458 where freedom-- to find this feeling. 1697 01:44:07,502 --> 01:44:11,027 Ukrainians so long time 1698 01:44:11,070 --> 01:44:15,640 wanted to be free. - Hmm. 1699 01:44:15,684 --> 01:44:19,427 - And Ukrainians didn't understand--me also. 1700 01:44:19,470 --> 01:44:22,778 We didn't understand that we have to pay for that. 1701 01:44:22,821 --> 01:44:27,043 ♪ 1702 01:44:27,086 --> 01:44:32,353 And we didn't understand the high price of it. 1703 01:44:32,396 --> 01:44:36,661 This understanding of freedom came with a war, 1704 01:44:36,705 --> 01:44:40,970 with the fighting for this freedom. 1705 01:44:41,013 --> 01:44:44,669 For Americans to understand what's going on here 1706 01:44:44,713 --> 01:44:47,237 and to understand the price, 1707 01:44:47,281 --> 01:44:51,546 they can feel it only if they will be on the war, 1708 01:44:51,589 --> 01:44:54,679 and I don't want them to fight in the war. 1709 01:44:54,723 --> 01:44:58,640 They had already--had already many different wars, 1710 01:44:58,683 --> 01:45:01,338 many different dead guys and soldiers 1711 01:45:01,382 --> 01:45:03,253 on different wars. 1712 01:45:03,297 --> 01:45:05,864 If we will not win now, 1713 01:45:05,908 --> 01:45:08,302 Americans will fight 1714 01:45:08,345 --> 01:45:11,305 in some years with this enemy. 1715 01:45:12,567 --> 01:45:17,093 Can tyranny win or not? 1716 01:45:17,136 --> 01:45:20,531 What will be the end of this war? 1717 01:45:20,575 --> 01:45:26,363 If I fight, I should win, 1718 01:45:26,407 --> 01:45:29,671 because if you are not ready to win, 1719 01:45:29,714 --> 01:45:31,194 don't fight. 1720 01:45:31,237 --> 01:45:34,719 ♪ 1721 01:45:34,763 --> 01:45:38,984 [indistinct chatter] 1722 01:45:39,028 --> 01:45:41,204 [laughter] 1723 01:45:44,860 --> 01:45:47,297 - One year ago, we interviewed you, 1724 01:45:47,341 --> 01:45:48,342 and you said what? 1725 01:46:00,484 --> 01:46:02,921 And... yeah, yeah. 1726 01:46:12,322 --> 01:46:14,977 [train horn blows] 1727 01:46:15,020 --> 01:46:16,587 [gentle music] 1728 01:46:16,631 --> 01:46:19,677 - I hope, I really hope 1729 01:46:19,721 --> 01:46:24,987 that when he's an old man and I'm an even older one 1730 01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:26,641 that I might be sitting with him 1731 01:46:26,684 --> 01:46:30,558 in a peaceful and prosperous free Kyiv 1732 01:46:30,601 --> 01:46:32,951 laughing like a couple of kids 1733 01:46:32,995 --> 01:46:37,434 at what William Saroyan called "the infinite delight 1734 01:46:37,478 --> 01:46:42,352 and mystery of life." 1735 01:46:42,396 --> 01:46:45,311 [gentle music] 1736 01:46:45,355 --> 01:46:48,576 ♪ 1737 01:46:48,619 --> 01:46:53,363 You have a job as a head of state to lead... 1738 01:46:53,407 --> 01:46:55,626 ♪ 1739 01:46:55,670 --> 01:47:01,327 To inspire, to communicate, 1740 01:47:01,371 --> 01:47:03,808 to sacrifice... 1741 01:47:03,852 --> 01:47:05,723 ♪ 1742 01:47:05,767 --> 01:47:07,769 It's been said that leadership's 1743 01:47:07,812 --> 01:47:11,512 first responsibility is to define reality 1744 01:47:11,555 --> 01:47:15,777 in courage in the face of unspeakable terror. 1745 01:47:15,820 --> 01:47:18,257 ♪ 1746 01:47:18,301 --> 01:47:20,825 Volodymyr Zelensky has done that. 1747 01:47:20,869 --> 01:47:24,176 ♪ 1748 01:47:24,220 --> 01:47:29,268 And he's done it despite a next-level problem set. 1749 01:47:29,312 --> 01:47:32,228 He'd done it for his country. 1750 01:47:32,271 --> 01:47:34,883 He'd done it for his children. 1751 01:47:34,926 --> 01:47:38,321 And he'd done it for ours. 1752 01:47:38,364 --> 01:47:43,979 Going to Ukraine, I got filled with this feeling of unity. 1753 01:47:44,022 --> 01:47:46,460 That's not because I'm closing my eyes 1754 01:47:46,503 --> 01:47:50,072 to what the cost of it is right now. 1755 01:47:50,115 --> 01:47:52,161 It was about how they were paying it 1756 01:47:52,204 --> 01:47:55,338 in common cause. 1757 01:47:55,381 --> 01:47:59,516 The weapons and ammunition are not being supplied quickly 1758 01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,998 or completely, yet Ukrainians battle on 1759 01:48:03,041 --> 01:48:06,392 with otherworldly courage in a freedom war 1760 01:48:06,436 --> 01:48:11,310 for sovereignty and the right to dream. 1761 01:48:11,354 --> 01:48:14,270 And we in the United States, 1762 01:48:14,313 --> 01:48:17,012 if we don't find common cause, 1763 01:48:17,055 --> 01:48:20,537 then we're only going backwards. 1764 01:48:20,581 --> 01:48:21,886 And we're gonna kill each other. 1765 01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,720 [gentle music] 1766 01:49:12,763 --> 01:49:19,640 ♪ 1767 01:51:40,650 --> 01:51:43,435 [The Smile's "Free In The Knowledge"] 1768 01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:49,877 ♪ 1769 01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:56,710 - ♪ Free in the knowledge 1770 01:51:56,753 --> 01:52:03,020 ♪ That one day this will end 1771 01:52:03,064 --> 01:52:09,723 ♪ Free in the knowledge 1772 01:52:09,766 --> 01:52:15,772 ♪ That everything is change 1773 01:52:15,816 --> 01:52:19,384 ♪ And this 1774 01:52:19,428 --> 01:52:25,434 ♪ Was just a bad moment 1775 01:52:25,477 --> 01:52:32,441 ♪ We were fumbling around 1776 01:52:32,484 --> 01:52:39,056 ♪ But we won't get caught like that ♪ 1777 01:52:39,100 --> 01:52:45,802 ♪ Soldiers on our backs 1778 01:52:45,846 --> 01:52:50,807 ♪ We won't get caught like that ♪ 1779 01:52:50,851 --> 01:52:53,810 ♪ 1780 01:52:53,854 --> 01:53:00,425 ♪ A face using fear 1781 01:53:00,469 --> 01:53:04,821 ♪ To try to keep control 1782 01:53:04,865 --> 01:53:06,954 ♪ 1783 01:53:06,997 --> 01:53:13,830 ♪ When we get together 1784 01:53:13,874 --> 01:53:20,010 ♪ Well then who knows 1785 01:53:20,054 --> 01:53:23,361 ♪ If this 1786 01:53:23,405 --> 01:53:29,063 ♪ Is just a bad moment 1787 01:53:29,106 --> 01:53:34,155 ♪ And we are fumbling around 1788 01:53:34,198 --> 01:53:36,331 ♪ 1789 01:53:36,374 --> 01:53:42,903 ♪ But we won't get caught like that ♪ 1790 01:53:42,946 --> 01:53:49,518 ♪ Soldiers on our backs 1791 01:53:49,561 --> 01:53:54,523 ♪ We won't get caught like that ♪ 1792 01:53:54,566 --> 01:53:58,744 ♪ 1793 01:53:58,788 --> 01:54:04,838 ♪ I talk to the face in the mirror ♪ 1794 01:54:04,881 --> 01:54:11,583 ♪ But he can't get through 1795 01:54:11,627 --> 01:54:17,676 ♪ I said, "It's time that you deliver ♪ 1796 01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:24,118 ♪ We see through you" 1797 01:54:24,161 --> 01:54:29,950 ♪ I talk to the face in the mirror ♪ 1798 01:54:29,993 --> 01:54:36,434 ♪ But he can't get through 1799 01:54:36,478 --> 01:54:42,397 ♪ Turns out we're in this together ♪ 1800 01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:46,488 ♪ Both me and you 1801 01:54:46,531 --> 01:54:53,451 ♪ 1802 01:55:04,201 --> 01:55:06,029 - Mr. President, what's the first thing you're gonna do 1803 01:55:06,073 --> 01:55:07,639 once Ukraine wins this war? 1804 01:55:15,212 --> 01:55:17,954 [chuckles] 1805 01:55:17,998 --> 01:55:20,957 [upbeat music] 1806 01:55:21,001 --> 01:55:27,921 ♪ 1807 01:55:31,402 --> 01:55:34,275 - [singing in native language] 1808 01:55:34,318 --> 01:55:38,318 ♪