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‐ Take my phone?
‐ Sure.
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‐ Roddy.
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Yeah, I'm doing great.
How are you?
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We're just getting ready
to do an interview about you.
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A little warm down there, huh?
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You what?
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Yeah, not anytime soon,
though.
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You're holding a place for me.
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Right next to you
at the table, huh?
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Great.
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No, I...no, I'm just gonna
talk about you,
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all good things,
not to worry about it.
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Great.
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Thanks, Roddy.
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Roddy's in heaven.
Roddy's not in hell.
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‐ We'll check you
down there, guys.
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We'll check you down there.
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‐ Rowdy Ronda Rousey!
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‐ Coming to the WWE,
I really wanted to make sure
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that every single time
that I walked out there,
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everyone remembered
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
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Rowdy is the only name
I could have taken on.
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I wanted to make sure that
that next generation of kids
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knew who he was
and respected his memory
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and what he's contributed
to the business.
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‐ When I ran into Piper,
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he's the one that made
everything else possible.
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He was the key,
the cog in the wheel.
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Without Piper,
we could have never launched
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into the stratosphere.
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‐ It's as simple as this.
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When RP talks, brother,
people listen.
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‐ He was the ultimate bad guy.
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‐ How you doing, fatso?
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‐ He sold it. He practiced it.
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He was good at what he did.
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‐ Just when they think
they got the answers,
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I change the questions.
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‐ Even if you had never heard
of Roddy Piper,
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you could tell
you didn't like this guy.
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‐ Nobody messes with Piper!
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‐ He was riveting.
‐ I seen a lot of men buried...
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‐ A really good‐hearted guy,
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a really tough
son of a bitch.
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‐ He was not like
any other wrestler.
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He was in his own world,
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real strong family man.
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‐ He kept his family
completely out of the business,
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and I think he took
too much of it on himself.
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‐ Yeah!
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‐ Everything he did
from the moment
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he walked out in the ring
rubbed people wrong.
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‐ You're gonna
see something
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you never seen
in your life before.
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‐ Whatever it was,
he went against the grain,
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and he just lived
in that glory.
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‐ You know, God takes care
of fools and babies.
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Before I was a pro wrestler,
I got hit by a pickup truck.
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I was lived
in an Indian reservation.
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I had tonsillitis,
so they took out my appendix.
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I moved a lot.
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I got hurt a lot
as a little kid.
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‐ My dad, Roddy Piper,
he was born in Canada
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in a place called
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,
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which is one of the coldest
places in the world.
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He used to tell me, you know,
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the story of running uphill
both ways to school,
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right, in the snow?
He actually did that.
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His dad was a police officer
that worked for the railroad,
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and this meant
that they traveled 24/7.
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They would spend a week in
one town, a week in the next.
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I think he was
about 10 years old.
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He was on a Indian reservation
for about six months,
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and he's the only
white kid on it.
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Everybody else is Indian,
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and they don't like
white people at the time,
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so he had to learn how
to fight his way through
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and get their respect.
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So every few months,
no matter where he was going,
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he would have to start over,
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build his reputation,
and be the tough guy
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so he wouldn't get hurt.
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He would go out and get
in trouble and come home
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and face all kinds
of physical punishment.
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‐ It was a hard
Victorian upbringing,
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very strict.
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Being the youngest,
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he always kind of felt like
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he was an afterthought
in his family
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is what he would tell me.
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Like, he wasn't expected.
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Not a lot of hugs.
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Not a lot of verbal
"I love yous."
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‐ My grandpa did beat my dad.
I don't know how often,
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but he was physical enough
with him
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that it was a dark place
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that my dad never really wanted
to talk about with us.
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‐ You're 12, 11, 10 years old.
You move 10 times.
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All of a sudden,
you get into a fight,
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and you come back home
and you get into a fight
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because you got into a fight.
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You know, it's...
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I don't think that punishment,
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physical punishment,
is a way to raise a kid.
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None of it goes on
in my house ever.
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‐ There was a lot of trauma
in his childhood,
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and it followed him.
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He seemed like
the kind of person
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that always had a demon
or something on his shoulder
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and that he was fighting with
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and I think that that started
at a very, very young age
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long before wrestling.
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‐ I got into my bagpipes
a lot,
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and it kind of pulled me away
from everybody.
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I don't know how,
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but that's where I started,
when I was six years old
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playing the bagpipes.
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It was a place for me to go.
It was loud.
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People knew,
don't interrupt.
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It actually became
a hideaway for me.
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‐ One day I was in my house,
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and there was a knock
at my back door.
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And there was two friends
of mine with this new guy, Rod.
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And so they said to me,
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"Cam, you're a pretty
tough guy,
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"and this new guy, Rod,
he's a pretty tough guy.
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Why don't you have a fight?"
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I said, "Sure."
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And we went at it.
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Like in the movies,
he drilled me a good one
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and I flew overtop
of my motorcycle.
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And he won the fight.
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As I found out later,
Rod told me he was
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the light heavyweight boxing
champ of Toronto.
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And from that point on,
we became best friends.
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He was a high school wrestler,
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and he was number two
in the city.
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That was his goal
was to be a wrestler.
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‐ And the day he did
graduate school,
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he finally did leave home.
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He would have liked a better
relationship with his father.
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You know, that was
eating him up.
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As Rod became a young adult,
it just became too much
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'cause Rod wanted
to get rough back,
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but the only other choice would
be to have an all‐out brawl
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with your father.
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He left home
and was out on his own.
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‐ It was just time to go,
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so I took my bagpipes
and I just never went back.
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‐ He was really a nomad.
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He went to youth hostels,
YMCAs, anywhere.
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Usually back then,
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five bucks for the night
and you could do it.
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Or you'd get there
and it'd be full,
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so you would be
on the street that night.
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‐ I had to make money,
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and so played my bagpipes
and I'd get quarters
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or whatever they give me.
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You sleep during the day.
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It's too dangerous
to sleep at nighttime.
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At nighttime, you get cold,
you get hungry,
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and so you start
to try to feed
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some of these necessities.
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I started stealing
what I needed
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and then got
with a group of bad guys.
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And all of a sudden,
you're carrying a switchblade,
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and‐‐you know,
and then the fights.
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Now I was getting off
on this bully type of thing,
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which I hated.
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‐ He was beaten up.
He was made fun of.
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Half of those beatings
were because
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somebody was trying
to sexually abuse him,
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and you fight back.
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‐ You know, I think he did a
little robbery here and there,
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and he was terribly
ashamed of it.
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It was a brief part
of his life.
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He also would fight.
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People would pay to see him
fight on the street.
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Doing whatever it takes
to survive.
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‐ I was living
in a youth hostel.
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Father O'Malley,
you know, he says,
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"You know, Roderick,
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have you ever seen
professional wrestling?"
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I said, "No, sir."
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He says, "I can get you $25."
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Whew! You know, that was,
like, three months' rent.
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‐ He was 15 years old
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when he had his
first professional fight
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against
Larry "The Axe" Hennig.
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‐ Larry Hennig
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coming into the ring
at this time...
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‐ You know, Rod, he knew
that he needed an angle.
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I don't believe at that time
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he'd come up with
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
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His name was Rod Toombs,
so he went by that name.
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I don't know
how many wrestlers
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can play the bagpipes
and has kilt.
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And so that's what he did
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to distinguish himself
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based on the talent
that he actually had.
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‐ The announcer, he just
knew my name was Roddy.
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He had to announce something,
and he says,
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"Ladies and gentlemen
here comes...
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Roddy the Piper."
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‐ He was just
naturally good at it,
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and then that evolved
into his wrestling career,
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since it was a special skill
that he could use as a gimmick.
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People would stand up and say...
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you know, and yell at him.
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That was his goal
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was to get people
pissed off at him,
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so they're going to look
in the program:
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"Who is this guy?"
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‐ My nose was broke, you know?
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And Larry only hit me twice,
but he did a good job.
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My eye was drooping,
and he says,
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"Kid, how'd you like to go
to Kansas City?"
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And that's how I got
into pro wrestling,
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and I never stopped.
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‐ He knew that there was going
to be many days
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that he didn't know where
the next paycheck was coming,
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and so he just
threw himself at it.
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That took him
all across Canada
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and then into the States,
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just wherever
he could get a job.
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‐ When wrestling came along,
that's why I just boom!
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Because it had all the
elements without the police.
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‐ There were more
than two dozen
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wrestling territories
in North America,
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so that meant that guys
could make a living uprooting,
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going from territory
to territory.
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‐ I'm so fortunate
to have wrestling
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and the way it evolved.
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If it hadn't,
I would've been dead.
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There's no doubt about it.
255
00:10:21,121 --> 00:10:24,332
I've got a baby face
that looks 12,
256
00:10:24,415 --> 00:10:26,334
in a dress,
playing bagpipes,
257
00:10:26,417 --> 00:10:28,878
and they just beat me up.
258
00:10:29,003 --> 00:10:30,630
‐ So when you're
just getting in,
259
00:10:30,755 --> 00:10:31,965
you're breaking
into pro wrestling,
260
00:10:32,006 --> 00:10:33,091
what do you do?
261
00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:34,717
They beat you up,
262
00:10:34,843 --> 00:10:36,719
and you have to continuously
get up and keep coming back.
263
00:10:36,845 --> 00:10:40,640
‐ I got my first break
in Los Angeles,
264
00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:42,725
and holy cow.
265
00:10:42,851 --> 00:10:46,229
Really, really brutal,
brutal days.
266
00:10:50,358 --> 00:10:52,360
‐ Roddy came into the gym.
267
00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:54,863
I says, "What are you doing?"
268
00:10:54,988 --> 00:10:57,615
"You gonna sweep up
the place,
269
00:10:57,699 --> 00:11:00,577
or sell hot doggies,
chicken on a bun?"
270
00:11:00,702 --> 00:11:03,496
He says, "No, I'm a wrestler."
271
00:11:03,580 --> 00:11:07,000
And I says, "You look like
you got polio in your stomach,
272
00:11:07,083 --> 00:11:08,293
"you're so small.
273
00:11:08,376 --> 00:11:11,337
"You'll never make it.
You got to learn how to wrestle
274
00:11:11,421 --> 00:11:14,632
so you can be
a sadistic bastard."
275
00:11:14,757 --> 00:11:16,467
‐ We're gonna see things
that are different,
276
00:11:16,551 --> 00:11:19,971
that's never been seen before,
ever, ever on any film.
277
00:11:20,054 --> 00:11:21,973
♪ ♪
278
00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:25,476
Don't practice this without
a qualified instructor
279
00:11:25,602 --> 00:11:27,020
right there with you.
280
00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:31,691
‐ Judo Gene‐‐if you don't
know, look him up‐‐
281
00:11:31,816 --> 00:11:33,985
was the toughest man
in the world,
282
00:11:34,110 --> 00:11:37,488
trained Bruce Lee,
Chuck Norris,
283
00:11:37,614 --> 00:11:39,991
Rowdy Ronda Rousey.
284
00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:42,577
‐ Gene LeBell
I would consider
285
00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:45,830
the most decorated stuntman
of all time.
286
00:11:45,955 --> 00:11:51,169
He was in the first‐ever
televised MMA event.
287
00:11:51,294 --> 00:11:53,504
When I was doing judo,
he would help me a lot.
288
00:11:53,630 --> 00:11:55,215
And then when I got in to MMA,
289
00:11:55,298 --> 00:11:58,760
he was in my corner for, like,
every single match.
290
00:11:58,843 --> 00:12:01,930
‐ Judo Gene saw that these
guys were bullying me,
291
00:12:02,013 --> 00:12:04,682
and Gene would tell me
what to do on the fly.
292
00:12:04,807 --> 00:12:07,727
‐ You got to beat them
with the dark side of the moon.
293
00:12:07,852 --> 00:12:10,813
Roddy said, "What's the dark
side of the moon?"
294
00:12:10,939 --> 00:12:14,817
"Well, what the referee
doesn't see, didn't happen."
295
00:12:14,901 --> 00:12:16,152
Watch you don't
take the eyes out.
296
00:12:16,236 --> 00:12:19,155
This is the throat.
Throat's a great handle.
297
00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,365
‐ [yells]
298
00:12:20,490 --> 00:12:22,367
‐ He'd call me late at night.
299
00:12:22,492 --> 00:12:24,577
And my wife said,
300
00:12:24,702 --> 00:12:27,497
"Hey, it must be Roddy
calling again."
301
00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:31,084
So he says, "Hey, let's go
and roll for a couple hours."
302
00:12:31,167 --> 00:12:35,713
We worked out hard,
no playing games.
303
00:12:35,838 --> 00:12:37,924
He wanted to know
how to wrestle.
304
00:12:38,841 --> 00:12:40,301
‐ The LeBell family is...
305
00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:41,636
they're legendary.
306
00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:43,304
They ran
the Olympic Auditorium,
307
00:12:43,429 --> 00:12:45,640
and because Dad
had earned their respect,
308
00:12:45,682 --> 00:12:48,351
he was able then to wrestle
there in LA
309
00:12:48,476 --> 00:12:50,019
for the LeBell family,
310
00:12:50,103 --> 00:12:51,521
and that is really where Dad
311
00:12:51,646 --> 00:12:53,523
got the chance
to spread his wings
312
00:12:53,648 --> 00:12:56,359
and really become
not just another fighter
313
00:12:56,484 --> 00:12:58,987
but the one they came to see.
314
00:12:59,070 --> 00:13:05,910
♪ ♪
315
00:13:06,035 --> 00:13:07,787
‐ One of my favorite memories
with him
316
00:13:07,870 --> 00:13:10,665
is when I was, like, 15.
317
00:13:10,748 --> 00:13:13,001
He brought me to LA
to see Hollywood,
318
00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:16,129
and I wanted to be an actress
and a singer.
319
00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:18,298
And so, to me,
Hollywood was like, "Whoo!"
320
00:13:18,381 --> 00:13:21,134
Marilyn Monroe handprints,
and the glamour and all of that.
321
00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:23,970
And we get here
and he rents a car,
322
00:13:24,012 --> 00:13:25,179
he's like, "All right, kid,
323
00:13:25,263 --> 00:13:27,140
I'm gonna take you
around town."
324
00:13:28,349 --> 00:13:30,685
First thing he does is,
he goes somewhere
325
00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:32,770
into, like, the Compton,
maybe, area.
326
00:13:32,854 --> 00:13:34,439
I was a little young
to understand
327
00:13:34,522 --> 00:13:35,440
what I was looking at.
328
00:13:35,523 --> 00:13:36,816
And he was like,
329
00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:38,860
"That's where your father
slept on the streets.
330
00:13:38,985 --> 00:13:42,947
"A woman got murdered
right outside my window,
331
00:13:43,031 --> 00:13:45,074
but I didn't say anything,
'cause I'm not a snitch."
332
00:13:45,158 --> 00:13:48,995
He's just telling me
these horrific stories.
333
00:13:50,413 --> 00:13:53,666
So then I come home
from that vacation.
334
00:13:53,791 --> 00:13:55,043
My friends asked me,
they're like,
335
00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:56,586
"How's Hollywood?"
And they were like,
336
00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:58,087
"Did you see this and that?"
337
00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:00,965
I was like, "I think I got
the wrestlers' tour."
338
00:14:01,049 --> 00:14:02,216
[laughs]
339
00:14:03,593 --> 00:14:06,471
[upbeat Spanish guitar music]
340
00:14:06,596 --> 00:14:11,684
♪ ♪
341
00:14:11,809 --> 00:14:14,312
‐ I was born and grew up
in Los Angeles,
342
00:14:14,395 --> 00:14:16,064
and some of my earliest memories
that I have
343
00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:17,648
are actually about
professional wrestling,
344
00:14:17,732 --> 00:14:19,650
being a professional
wrestling fan.
345
00:14:19,776 --> 00:14:21,402
I remember going
down on the bus,
346
00:14:21,486 --> 00:14:23,780
running with my stepfather,
trying to catch a bus
347
00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:25,365
to go down
to the Olympic Auditorium.
348
00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:28,868
In 1976, one of the new faces
in the territory
349
00:14:28,993 --> 00:14:31,037
was a young lad
by the name of Roddy Piper.
350
00:14:31,162 --> 00:14:34,123
He was 21 years old.
351
00:14:34,207 --> 00:14:36,042
He was a young,
fresh‐faced kid.
352
00:14:36,167 --> 00:14:39,045
Fans gave him
polite applause.
353
00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:43,716
They start wrestling, and it
starts out as a clean match.
354
00:14:43,841 --> 00:14:46,928
But little by little, subtly,
355
00:14:47,011 --> 00:14:50,098
he starts doing these things
that only a villain would do.
356
00:14:51,682 --> 00:14:53,017
He was fighting,
357
00:14:53,142 --> 00:14:54,519
and he was giving people
kicks to the groin
358
00:14:54,644 --> 00:14:56,062
during his wrestling matches.
359
00:14:56,145 --> 00:14:58,648
♪ ♪
360
00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:01,484
It was like watching
a caterpillar
361
00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:03,152
transform into a butterfly,
362
00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:07,323
and you just saw this magic
happening before your eyes.
363
00:15:07,365 --> 00:15:09,200
People were booing
Roddy Piper.
364
00:15:09,325 --> 00:15:11,953
They absolutely hated
who he was.
365
00:15:12,036 --> 00:15:13,329
‐ I am the intelligence.
366
00:15:13,413 --> 00:15:15,623
I think the most controversial
thing I did
367
00:15:15,706 --> 00:15:17,041
was stir up controversy
368
00:15:17,166 --> 00:15:18,876
because it draws money.
369
00:15:19,001 --> 00:15:21,254
Conflict draws money.
370
00:15:21,337 --> 00:15:23,714
‐ The wheels were always turning
for him as to what can I say,
371
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,133
what can I do next?
372
00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:27,009
'cause you had
to keep them interested.
373
00:15:27,135 --> 00:15:28,928
You had to keep them
coming back.
374
00:15:29,011 --> 00:15:31,013
‐ There's no way, Piper!
‐ Hey!
375
00:15:31,139 --> 00:15:32,348
‐ Oh!
‐ Hey! Piper!
376
00:15:32,473 --> 00:15:34,267
‐ Get up, you think
you're so tough!
377
00:15:34,350 --> 00:15:36,477
‐ Anything he did,
he wanted to be good at it.
378
00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:38,855
‐ I don't plan to go in there
and make it easy.
379
00:15:38,980 --> 00:15:40,815
I don't plan to go in there
and not have some knocks
380
00:15:40,857 --> 00:15:42,483
on my own noggin, brother.
381
00:15:42,567 --> 00:15:45,069
‐ And they used him
to do the interviews
382
00:15:45,194 --> 00:15:51,159
because he would showboat
and help sell boletos, tickets.
383
00:15:51,284 --> 00:15:52,869
‐ You're a pig,
Guerrero!
384
00:15:52,994 --> 00:15:55,163
Your father was a pig,
385
00:15:55,246 --> 00:15:56,998
your brother was a pig,
386
00:15:57,081 --> 00:15:58,666
and you're a pig, Guerrero!
387
00:15:58,749 --> 00:16:01,961
‐ The Guerrero family
was one of the first families
388
00:16:02,003 --> 00:16:03,963
in professional wrestling.
389
00:16:04,046 --> 00:16:05,465
If you're of Latino descent,
390
00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:08,718
you didn't really see
a lot of faces on television
391
00:16:08,843 --> 00:16:10,344
that were like yours.
392
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:12,763
And usually if you did, they
played the roles of a gardener,
393
00:16:12,847 --> 00:16:14,474
or they played the role
of a maid.
394
00:16:14,557 --> 00:16:20,646
So for us to see the Guerrero
family in hero roles
395
00:16:20,771 --> 00:16:22,690
was very important.
396
00:16:22,773 --> 00:16:24,484
We worshiped them.
397
00:16:24,567 --> 00:16:26,152
‐ You get in that ring,
Chavo Guerrero,
398
00:16:26,235 --> 00:16:27,945
and it's going to be
all over for you, brother,
399
00:16:28,029 --> 00:16:29,614
because I don't give a damn
about nothing no more.
400
00:16:29,697 --> 00:16:31,866
‐ When Roddy Piper
would insult the Guerreros,
401
00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:34,035
we took it very personally.
402
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,996
‐ You sitting at home
with your fat bellies
403
00:16:37,038 --> 00:16:39,499
and your construction boots
drinking your beer,
404
00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:41,000
you know who I am.
405
00:16:41,083 --> 00:16:43,711
‐ Roddy really had
the whole package.
406
00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:45,421
In the ring,
he was a dirty wrestler,
407
00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:48,132
but he had all this
tremendous frenetic energy.
408
00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:51,302
But also, he knew how to get
a reaction out of the fans,
409
00:16:51,385 --> 00:16:53,012
and one of the ways
he would do that
410
00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:54,931
was to bring his bagpipes
out to the ring.
411
00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,057
[playing off‐key]
412
00:16:56,182 --> 00:16:58,059
‐ One time, he told everybody
413
00:16:58,184 --> 00:17:01,103
and silenced
the entire stadium,
414
00:17:01,187 --> 00:17:03,439
he'd play the Mexican
national anthem
415
00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:06,817
to apologize for attacking
the Guerreros.
416
00:17:06,943 --> 00:17:10,154
‐ I said, "You know,
I love you people.
417
00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:13,658
I'd like to do
something special."
418
00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:15,201
[crowd booing]
419
00:17:15,284 --> 00:17:18,746
And all the wonderful
Hispanic people came in.
420
00:17:18,871 --> 00:17:20,581
I'm in the ring.
421
00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:27,421
And, "Please stand for
the Mexican national anthem."
422
00:17:29,507 --> 00:17:33,636
[whispering] Just like this
I said to myself,
423
00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:35,930
"I'm gonna die."
424
00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:38,641
I put those bagpipes up, man.
425
00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:40,393
It's too late, right?
426
00:17:40,518 --> 00:17:42,311
‐ And Roddy starts
playing his notes,
427
00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,480
and it's not the Mexican
national anthem.
428
00:17:44,605 --> 00:17:46,899
But he starts playing
"La Cucaracha."
429
00:17:47,024 --> 00:17:48,568
He starts playing a song
about a cockroach.
430
00:17:48,693 --> 00:17:51,696
[playing "La Cucaracha"
on bagpipes]
431
00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:54,115
♪ ♪
432
00:17:54,198 --> 00:17:56,826
♪ La cucaracha, la cucaracha ♪
433
00:17:56,951 --> 00:17:58,494
[hums]
434
00:17:58,619 --> 00:18:02,456
Holy cow, chairs that were
bolted down in the cement,
435
00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:04,959
here they come.
436
00:18:05,001 --> 00:18:06,294
‐ And the fans...
437
00:18:06,335 --> 00:18:08,713
♪ ♪
438
00:18:08,838 --> 00:18:10,047
They're just shocked.
439
00:18:10,172 --> 00:18:12,633
‐ Chairs come up.
Things are being thrown.
440
00:18:12,717 --> 00:18:14,302
Stage is being overcome.
441
00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:17,138
‐ It was like watching...
watching a car wreck, you know?
442
00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:19,056
It's a horrible thing to see,
but at the same time,
443
00:18:19,181 --> 00:18:20,516
you can't take your eyes
away from it.
444
00:18:20,641 --> 00:18:23,019
‐ I was there that night,
445
00:18:23,144 --> 00:18:25,479
and I was going to...
446
00:18:25,563 --> 00:18:27,148
whiz in my pants.
447
00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:29,233
‐ You can't write
that kind of stuff.
448
00:18:29,358 --> 00:18:31,819
‐ I says,
"This guy is a natural."
449
00:18:31,902 --> 00:18:36,115
♪ ♪
450
00:18:43,372 --> 00:18:47,376
‐ You had to move around,
especially as a bad guy.
451
00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:49,378
You would run your course,
452
00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:54,050
and then you needed to go on
and find another place to go
453
00:18:54,175 --> 00:18:56,052
and stake your claim
for a while
454
00:18:56,177 --> 00:18:58,179
and then you would move on
somewhere else.
455
00:18:58,304 --> 00:19:00,973
‐ I am extremely pleased
456
00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:04,769
to take my wonderful trophy.
457
00:19:04,852 --> 00:19:07,647
‐ Once I left Los Angeles,
when I went to Portland,
458
00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:09,023
nobody knew who I was,
459
00:19:09,106 --> 00:19:10,858
so you had to start
all over again.
460
00:19:10,941 --> 00:19:13,944
[hopeful music]
461
00:19:14,028 --> 00:19:19,325
♪ ♪
462
00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:27,750
Did you find the choke?
‐ Yeah.
463
00:19:27,875 --> 00:19:31,379
‐ Okay, kick the engine over,
leaving the throttle closed.
464
00:19:32,546 --> 00:19:35,883
It's probably just new.
It needs‐‐takes a lot of kicks.
465
00:19:35,966 --> 00:19:37,134
‐ Yeah.
466
00:19:37,218 --> 00:19:39,595
‐ I met Roddy in 1979.
467
00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:43,349
I was working graveyard shift
as a waitress
468
00:19:43,474 --> 00:19:45,351
just southwest side
of Portland.
469
00:19:45,476 --> 00:19:47,395
‐ Get you something out there.
470
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,147
‐ Roderick, you're lucky
I had it high enough
471
00:19:50,272 --> 00:19:53,192
that that didn't show.
‐ [laughs]
472
00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:56,320
‐ He was the funniest
human being on the planet.
473
00:19:56,445 --> 00:19:58,864
[snickers]
‐ Is that it?
474
00:19:58,989 --> 00:20:00,491
‐ Oh, the guy...
475
00:20:00,574 --> 00:20:04,495
all the wrinkles on my face
are from him making me laugh.
476
00:20:04,578 --> 00:20:06,747
I was young,
I was 19 years old,
477
00:20:06,872 --> 00:20:09,333
and so all the other
waitresses would say,
478
00:20:09,458 --> 00:20:11,293
"You go wait
on those wrestlers."
479
00:20:11,419 --> 00:20:12,962
Prime rib was always
what he got.
480
00:20:13,087 --> 00:20:16,924
He ordered two prime ribs and
always two pieces of lemon pie.
481
00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:19,176
He started asking me,
482
00:20:19,301 --> 00:20:20,344
"Hey, can I have
your phone number?
483
00:20:20,469 --> 00:20:22,138
I'd like to ask you out."
484
00:20:23,681 --> 00:20:26,475
I thought he was cute as heck.
Thought he cute as heck.
485
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,478
But the crowd he was with
was so loud, and so I'm like,
486
00:20:29,562 --> 00:20:32,314
"Nah, you know.
Hey, hi, hi."
487
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,234
So we kind of flirted,
but after about a month,
488
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,528
his tag‐team partner,
Killer Brooks,
489
00:20:37,611 --> 00:20:39,196
got down on his knees
and he says,
490
00:20:39,321 --> 00:20:40,364
"Please give him
your phone number.
491
00:20:40,448 --> 00:20:41,657
"I'm his tag‐team partner,
492
00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:43,743
"and I'm getting
beat to heck out there
493
00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:46,162
"because he's only
thinking about you.
494
00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:47,663
He wants to get to know you."
495
00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:50,124
So I said, "Okay, I'll take
his phone number."
496
00:20:50,207 --> 00:20:52,710
And then we hit it off.
497
00:20:54,503 --> 00:20:58,215
♪ ♪
498
00:20:58,340 --> 00:20:59,717
Portland wrestling
499
00:20:59,842 --> 00:21:03,262
in the late '70s,
early '80s was huge.
500
00:21:03,345 --> 00:21:05,556
The buildings
were always packed.
501
00:21:05,639 --> 00:21:07,641
From the moment
I started dating him,
502
00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:10,144
anywhere we would go,
people knew who he was.
503
00:21:10,227 --> 00:21:12,813
Everyone pretty much
had the same reaction.
504
00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:13,981
They were shocked,
505
00:21:14,064 --> 00:21:15,775
but after they met him,
506
00:21:15,858 --> 00:21:20,488
they all understood that he
was a genuine guy and caring.
507
00:21:20,571 --> 00:21:22,406
‐ You come down here
and burn your bra
508
00:21:22,531 --> 00:21:23,532
and think you're something?
509
00:21:23,616 --> 00:21:25,075
You're getting in there
with men...
510
00:21:25,201 --> 00:21:27,411
‐ And to have to do something
511
00:21:27,495 --> 00:21:29,580
like when he attacked
a woman wrestler,
512
00:21:29,663 --> 00:21:31,665
he has to do it over the top
513
00:21:31,749 --> 00:21:34,251
because it's so hard
for him to do.
514
00:21:34,335 --> 00:21:37,379
‐ This is why men wrestle
and why women don't!
515
00:21:37,505 --> 00:21:39,507
This is why!
Get outta here!
516
00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:41,467
Get outta here!
That's why!
517
00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:45,805
‐ For Roddy in real life,
a woman is on a pedestal.
518
00:21:45,888 --> 00:21:47,139
♪ ♪
519
00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:48,974
He's very old‐fashioned.
520
00:21:49,058 --> 00:21:50,434
He would never hit a woman.
521
00:21:50,518 --> 00:21:53,771
He would never
insult a woman.
522
00:21:53,854 --> 00:21:56,315
And I decided early on,
523
00:21:56,398 --> 00:21:58,651
I was gonna love Roddy
no matter what.
524
00:21:58,734 --> 00:22:00,402
I did and I do
525
00:22:00,528 --> 00:22:03,906
and wouldn't change it
for the world.
526
00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:12,832
♪ ♪
527
00:22:12,957 --> 00:22:16,460
‐ In Portland,
it was a smaller territory.
528
00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:19,004
In Atlanta,
the business was growing.
529
00:22:19,129 --> 00:22:20,673
You had to move around,
530
00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:25,302
and you had to be able to go
from territory to territory.
531
00:22:25,386 --> 00:22:27,680
That's the way that the
business worked at the time.
532
00:22:27,805 --> 00:22:30,641
‐ They called me
on the East Coast.
533
00:22:30,724 --> 00:22:33,727
I was ready at any time to get
up and take a left‐hand turn.
534
00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:36,188
And I drove the old
yellow canary
535
00:22:36,313 --> 00:22:38,274
right across the country.
536
00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:42,236
[upbeat rock music]
537
00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:45,239
‐ WTBS in Atlanta, Georgia,
538
00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:47,825
Ted Turner's superstation,
539
00:22:47,908 --> 00:22:50,327
wrestling was a staple.
540
00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:53,831
Here's Roddy Piper.
541
00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:57,626
Very few people knew who he
was on a national basis.
542
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:59,962
He wasn't the biggest guy
in the world,
543
00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:01,755
but the one thing that he did
544
00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:04,633
better than anybody else
was talk.
545
00:23:04,717 --> 00:23:06,719
‐ It's a pleasure for you
to have me here, I'm sure.
546
00:23:06,844 --> 00:23:09,138
You see, being the expert
that I am...
547
00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:14,310
‐ The promoters realized Roddy
knew how to tell a story,
548
00:23:14,435 --> 00:23:18,480
not just his own story,
but other people's stories.
549
00:23:18,606 --> 00:23:20,149
‐ People want to get
familiar with me.
550
00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:21,692
People like yourself...
551
00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:23,110
‐ He was brought in
as Rod Piper,
552
00:23:23,193 --> 00:23:25,070
the color commentator:
553
00:23:25,195 --> 00:23:27,823
sport coat, no kilt,
554
00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:33,245
and then the color commentator
began to skew his views...
555
00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:35,831
‐ You got a big,
big, big mouth.
556
00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:37,833
‐ If they let a bald‐headed
geek like you in...
557
00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:40,252
‐ Maybe a little bit
more nasty...
558
00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:42,171
‐ You just stay out of my way,
pig face!
559
00:23:42,296 --> 00:23:45,633
‐ Maybe a little bit more
against the fan favorites.
560
00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:47,885
‐ And you won't have
to worry about nothing, man.
561
00:23:48,010 --> 00:23:49,303
‐ Pig face?
562
00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:53,349
‐ And they created another way
563
00:23:53,474 --> 00:23:55,768
to get this character over.
564
00:23:55,851 --> 00:23:57,686
‐ They say stick and stones
may break my bones
565
00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:59,355
but words will never hurt me.
566
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,148
Well, some of the words he
says about me and my family
567
00:24:01,231 --> 00:24:02,524
have hurt me deeply.
568
00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:04,234
‐ Sticks and stones
may break your bones.
569
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:05,945
You are right!
570
00:24:06,028 --> 00:24:09,198
And I'm nuts enough
to throw sticks and stones!
571
00:24:09,323 --> 00:24:11,492
‐ Now you've got,
572
00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:13,953
"I'm gonna kick
that commentator's butt."
573
00:24:14,036 --> 00:24:15,788
‐ Piper into the ring.
574
00:24:15,871 --> 00:24:17,831
‐ The commentator was
a wrestler and a tough guy.
575
00:24:17,957 --> 00:24:20,334
‐ As he gets through the
ropes, and they go at it!
576
00:24:20,459 --> 00:24:22,294
‐ Now he comes out
with the kilt.
577
00:24:22,419 --> 00:24:24,129
‐ The wild man, Roddy Piper.
578
00:24:24,213 --> 00:24:25,839
‐ Now he's Roddy Piper.
579
00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:28,801
‐ Roddy Piper, the only way
that he's really been
580
00:24:28,926 --> 00:24:32,179
outstanding in this match
is his bad sportsmanship.
581
00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:35,641
They're trying to literally
carry Piper out of the ring.
582
00:24:35,766 --> 00:24:37,726
‐ I told you Piper pays back!
583
00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:41,146
I told you, nobody‐‐
nobody messes with Piper!
584
00:24:41,271 --> 00:24:43,440
‐ When he wrestles
as a bad guy,
585
00:24:43,524 --> 00:24:45,567
that was the most comfortable
for him.
586
00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:48,612
‐ Come out here right now
and fight me like a man!
587
00:24:48,696 --> 00:24:50,614
Come right now!
‐ If you're a bad guy,
588
00:24:50,698 --> 00:24:54,076
fans aren't gonna come up
and shake your hand as much.
589
00:24:54,201 --> 00:24:57,162
He could be alone more
if he was a bad guy.
590
00:24:57,287 --> 00:25:01,667
Maybe because he was alone
in life early on so often,
591
00:25:01,792 --> 00:25:03,460
that's where he was
comfortable.
592
00:25:03,585 --> 00:25:05,629
‐ Piper has
hit him with his fist.
593
00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:08,132
He hit him in the jaw
with a roll of coins.
594
00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:11,802
‐ As a kid, he was around
some of the roughest people
595
00:25:11,927 --> 00:25:13,387
you can imagine.
‐ It's mine!
596
00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:15,014
‐ And sometimes I wonder
if that's part
597
00:25:15,139 --> 00:25:19,226
of what pieced together that
bad guy psychology that he had.
598
00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:21,854
‐ I am the legend killer.
599
00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:23,856
[pen scratching]
600
00:25:23,981 --> 00:25:25,649
‐ So my dad did
this thing.
601
00:25:25,733 --> 00:25:27,818
There were these yellow
legal pads that he would write.
602
00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:30,070
He would write
all kinds of ideas.
603
00:25:30,195 --> 00:25:32,406
‐ Just in case he had
the opportunity
604
00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:33,824
that a mic was handed to him
605
00:25:33,907 --> 00:25:35,492
so that he had something
great to say.
606
00:25:35,617 --> 00:25:36,910
‐ You know, you couldn't
get a date
607
00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:39,079
with a $100 bill
on your forehead.
608
00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:40,831
I wouldn't fight you
609
00:25:40,914 --> 00:25:43,500
if my grandma was threatened
by the Huns.
610
00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:45,711
Sometimes maybe I heard it
611
00:25:45,836 --> 00:25:47,629
in the middle
of a rock and roll song.
612
00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:52,009
I just had a knack for putting
that kind of stuff together.
613
00:25:52,134 --> 00:25:53,635
Of course, I don't have
to impress somebody.
614
00:25:53,719 --> 00:25:54,970
They got to impress me,
615
00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:56,972
because I'm Roddy Piper
and you're not.
616
00:25:57,014 --> 00:25:58,599
‐ And that's why
he was so quick‐witted,
617
00:25:58,682 --> 00:26:00,601
because he put in work
nobody else did.
618
00:26:00,684 --> 00:26:03,979
When everybody else was partying
and drinking, which he did,
619
00:26:04,104 --> 00:26:06,607
he also was thinking and writing
these things down.
620
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:08,317
‐ Like, sometimes
people say to me,
621
00:26:08,442 --> 00:26:10,319
"Oh, you just say what comes
off the top of your head."
622
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,237
Oh, [bleep] horse[bleep].
623
00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:13,489
[scoffs]
624
00:26:13,614 --> 00:26:16,825
You have no idea
how much work went into it.
625
00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:20,496
I seen a lot of men buried
wearing a $50 Stetson
626
00:26:20,621 --> 00:26:23,165
and carrying a five‐buck gun,
you geek.
627
00:26:23,290 --> 00:26:24,583
‐ Whoo‐whoo!
628
00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:26,210
[dramatic music]
629
00:26:26,293 --> 00:26:28,754
‐ There was a guy named
Ric Flair on the East Coast.
630
00:26:28,837 --> 00:26:32,424
‐ The greatest wrestling
in the whole entire wide world
631
00:26:32,508 --> 00:26:34,551
comes right out
of the Mid‐Atlantic area,
632
00:26:34,676 --> 00:26:36,804
and Roddy Piper and I
are glad to be here, brother.
633
00:26:36,929 --> 00:26:38,597
‐ Ric and I were so different.
634
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,474
You know, I wear a kilt.
Ric doesn't.
635
00:26:40,557 --> 00:26:44,061
He's blond. I ain't.
You know?
636
00:26:44,186 --> 00:26:47,314
That we got along real well
outside the ring,
637
00:26:47,356 --> 00:26:50,442
and then everything
started to get out of control.
638
00:26:50,526 --> 00:26:52,986
‐ Piper and Flair
have formed a pact,
639
00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:56,156
and where there's trouble,
we won't be hard to find.
640
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,658
‐ He's got a belt.
641
00:26:57,699 --> 00:26:59,118
‐ Well, I knew‐‐
yeah, I'd heard his name,
642
00:26:59,201 --> 00:27:01,286
but I didn't know
anything about him.
643
00:27:01,370 --> 00:27:03,664
He came in the studio,
644
00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:05,082
and I knew right away
I was gonna like him.
645
00:27:05,207 --> 00:27:08,627
He was full of himself,
and, man, I mean, talent.
646
00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:10,212
‐ Ric Flair, Roddy Piper!
647
00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:11,839
That's what it's all about!
648
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:13,465
That's what
it's all about!
649
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:15,551
‐ God, he was entertaining.
650
00:27:15,676 --> 00:27:17,970
It was so good
that it made everybody mad.
651
00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:22,141
‐ You're gonna find it's a
whole lot easier to jump on
652
00:27:22,266 --> 00:27:23,308
than it is to jump off.
653
00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:24,852
‐ Whoo!
654
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,148
‐ I had moved over there
to the East Coast with Roddy,
655
00:27:29,231 --> 00:27:32,401
and we were expecting
our first child.
656
00:27:32,526 --> 00:27:34,153
It was very rowdy times.
657
00:27:34,236 --> 00:27:37,948
Roddy and Ric
and the other wrestlers,
658
00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:40,659
they lived on a planet
that was theirs.
659
00:27:40,742 --> 00:27:44,121
They were a wild,
wild pair of men,
660
00:27:44,204 --> 00:27:47,833
lots of drinking and hotels
getting damaged and such.
661
00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:49,543
‐ Next thing I remember,
662
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:51,920
I'm in my bed,
my clothes are on,
663
00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:53,964
the door's knocked off
the hinges.
664
00:27:54,089 --> 00:27:55,632
I didn't know what happened,
665
00:27:55,757 --> 00:27:57,176
but I got the hell
out of there.
666
00:27:57,259 --> 00:27:59,636
‐ You hear things.
You know some things.
667
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,930
You don't know
a lot of things.
668
00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:05,726
Roddy was Roddy,
and that's what it was.
669
00:28:05,851 --> 00:28:09,521
‐ We like our kamikazes on ice
and our women on fire.
670
00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,064
You understand
what I'm saying?
671
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:12,816
‐ A little woman?
‐ And everywhere we go,
672
00:28:12,941 --> 00:28:17,112
we do it better, longer,
harder than anybody else!
673
00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:20,449
We were the Beatles, man.
674
00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:23,076
It was suicidal
putting us together.
675
00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:26,455
Ingesting or drinking,
anything,
676
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:28,999
Roddy could beat anybody
to the draw.
677
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:32,211
‐ It just got way out of hand.
678
00:28:32,336 --> 00:28:36,673
This is where Ric Flair started
the, you know, 99 kamikazes.
679
00:28:36,757 --> 00:28:38,383
You know, here I'm, like‐‐
whoa, you know?
680
00:28:38,467 --> 00:28:40,052
I'm pretty hard core man.
Pretty hard core.
681
00:28:40,177 --> 00:28:41,637
I'm drinking mine,
682
00:28:41,762 --> 00:28:43,639
and I'd be the one always
be getting in trouble.
683
00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:48,477
‐ It was a time to make money,
but it was go, go, go, go, go.
684
00:28:48,602 --> 00:28:50,395
And you get three days off,
685
00:28:50,479 --> 00:28:52,898
and then you come back on the
road for another couple weeks.
686
00:28:53,023 --> 00:28:56,109
And I remember we were
driving in a snowstorm.
687
00:28:56,193 --> 00:28:58,111
You know, we had beers
and everything in the car.
688
00:28:58,195 --> 00:28:59,446
So we got out,
689
00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:01,156
and we're all taking a leak
on the side of the road.
690
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,242
And all of a sudden,
Roddy ran to the car.
691
00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:05,619
And I remember it's like
we ran after him,
692
00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:06,954
'cause we knew
that Roddy was in
693
00:29:07,037 --> 00:29:08,497
one of those kind of
states of mind
694
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:10,666
where he was gonna
take the car.
695
00:29:10,707 --> 00:29:11,959
We pretty much tackled Roddy
696
00:29:12,084 --> 00:29:13,669
while he was trying to drive
off in the car.
697
00:29:13,794 --> 00:29:16,755
‐ He was a...
a tough guy to handle.
698
00:29:16,838 --> 00:29:19,466
He was a heavy partier.
699
00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:21,176
And I would scoop him up,
700
00:29:21,301 --> 00:29:23,011
and I'd make sure he got
701
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:24,721
to where he was
supposed to be going.
702
00:29:24,805 --> 00:29:27,266
Got him to his rooms.
Got him to the hotel.
703
00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:29,893
Got him to the airports.
704
00:29:29,977 --> 00:29:33,063
‐ You go out there and wrestle
for 45 minutes,
705
00:29:33,188 --> 00:29:34,898
and you come back,
take a shower.
706
00:29:34,982 --> 00:29:37,150
You're wide frigging awake.
707
00:29:37,234 --> 00:29:40,362
And a lot of times,
I'd look at the coke and...
708
00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:41,905
"Oh, I don't want to do this."
709
00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:43,907
But you end up doing it.
710
00:29:44,032 --> 00:29:46,368
‐ It was, "I need this
to wake up to wrestle."
711
00:29:46,493 --> 00:29:47,661
"I need this to go to bed,
712
00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:49,246
'cause I work in an hour
and this is all I have."
713
00:29:49,371 --> 00:29:52,666
‐ It was also
about to numb the pain,
714
00:29:52,749 --> 00:29:55,085
the physical pain,
the pain of being alone,
715
00:29:55,168 --> 00:29:57,921
always having
to be in transition.
716
00:29:58,005 --> 00:30:00,966
You know, you're never
sitting still.
717
00:30:01,091 --> 00:30:04,011
‐ It's a vicious cycle that
would just go round and round.
718
00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:06,138
It's easier to go
have a drink.
719
00:30:06,221 --> 00:30:08,473
It's easier to go take a pill
or go smoke a joint.
720
00:30:08,557 --> 00:30:10,475
‐ Back in those days,
721
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,854
like, any injury
could cost you your job.
722
00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:15,647
If you can't do it,
723
00:30:15,689 --> 00:30:18,191
they replace you a few minutes
later with somebody else.
724
00:30:18,317 --> 00:30:20,319
You learn to be
your own doctors.
725
00:30:20,402 --> 00:30:22,237
That's kind of the sad thing
is, you're your own doctor.
726
00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:25,657
Roddy was pretty
out of control.
727
00:30:25,782 --> 00:30:27,784
Lord knows what kind
of drugs and alcohol
728
00:30:27,868 --> 00:30:33,832
were being consumed.
729
00:30:33,915 --> 00:30:35,334
[chuckles]
730
00:30:37,377 --> 00:30:38,879
‐ [laughter]
731
00:30:39,963 --> 00:30:42,090
‐ Having Roddy travel so often
732
00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:46,345
and be gone so much
and having a growing family,
733
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:48,764
it was very difficult.
734
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:53,935
‐ When you live like we did,
you know, 3,000 miles a week,
735
00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:57,022
you become desensitized.
736
00:30:57,147 --> 00:30:58,774
‐ Say merry Christmas.
737
00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:01,151
all: Merry Christmas.
738
00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:03,153
‐ One thing that Roddy did,
739
00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:07,657
he kept his family completely
out of the business
740
00:31:07,741 --> 00:31:11,787
'cause he didn't want them
to see what he went through.
741
00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:13,246
He wanted them to grow up
742
00:31:13,372 --> 00:31:15,374
and be beautiful
and healthy and happy,
743
00:31:15,499 --> 00:31:19,127
and I think he took
too much of it on himself.
744
00:31:19,211 --> 00:31:20,921
♪ ♪
745
00:31:21,004 --> 00:31:23,507
‐ Sometimes when Rod
would come home from the road,
746
00:31:23,632 --> 00:31:25,050
he wouldn't come
straight home.
747
00:31:25,175 --> 00:31:29,054
He would check into a
hotel room and just get rested
748
00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:31,431
because when he got home,
he couldn't rest.
749
00:31:31,515 --> 00:31:33,683
I'd like to know
where mine is.
750
00:31:33,809 --> 00:31:35,477
‐ [laughs]
To Barnacle Bill.
751
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,020
♪ ♪
752
00:31:37,104 --> 00:31:38,855
‐ He almost had to do
a transition mentally
753
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:40,565
when he came from
the road to home,
754
00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:42,859
because he didn't want
to bring that character home.
755
00:31:42,943 --> 00:31:45,195
He had such a hot temper
as Hot Rod.
756
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,738
And he had to,
757
00:31:46,863 --> 00:31:48,240
because he had to be
on guard a lot.
758
00:31:49,449 --> 00:31:51,201
It was very separate.
759
00:31:51,326 --> 00:31:55,288
He didn't like to take us
to a lot of events.
760
00:31:55,372 --> 00:31:58,375
We were very concerned
about safety
761
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:02,838
because of how much aggression
was being put towards Rod.
762
00:32:02,963 --> 00:32:05,882
[crowd cheering]
763
00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:07,801
‐ He had been a villain
in the Deep South
764
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:10,345
and fighting fans
and, you know,
765
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:11,888
getting assault charges.
766
00:32:12,013 --> 00:32:13,390
I mean, I can think
of a few situations
767
00:32:13,515 --> 00:32:15,976
with Roddy with fans
trying to run us off the road
768
00:32:16,059 --> 00:32:18,895
and chasing us in cities
like Detroit.
769
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,565
‐ People would throw
thumbtacks in the ring,
770
00:32:21,648 --> 00:32:23,024
hit with beer bottles.
771
00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:24,359
In Asheville, North Carolina,
772
00:32:24,484 --> 00:32:26,903
they threw a rattlesnake
in the ring one night.
773
00:32:27,028 --> 00:32:28,780
Guy ran down to the ringside
with a gunnysack
774
00:32:28,864 --> 00:32:30,031
and threw a rattlesnake.
775
00:32:30,157 --> 00:32:31,992
[bell dings]
[crowd booing]
776
00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:34,619
‐ There was a lot
of crazy fans back then,
777
00:32:34,703 --> 00:32:37,914
and being a bad guy could be
a very dangerous living.
778
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,000
‐ 'Cause I'm going to shove it
down your throat!
779
00:32:40,125 --> 00:32:41,960
‐ There's certainly times
when I'd seen him
780
00:32:42,002 --> 00:32:43,170
say or do something on TV
where I'm like,
781
00:32:43,253 --> 00:32:45,380
"Oh, my gosh,
we're in for it now.
782
00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:48,049
This is gonna get worse
before it gets better."
783
00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:53,138
But I never asked him
to curtail or tone it down
784
00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:56,600
because that would hinder
his creativity.
785
00:32:56,683 --> 00:33:00,687
‐ People wanted to kill me.
786
00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:02,772
‐ I remember there was
a gentleman.
787
00:33:02,856 --> 00:33:04,399
I wasn't really paying
much attention,
788
00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:08,487
but Roddy went taking off
down this hallway.
789
00:33:08,570 --> 00:33:12,949
And the next thing,
I see them having some words
790
00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:16,286
and the police
got involved in it.
791
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:20,540
He did have a big knife,
you know, like a Bowie knife.
792
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:23,835
So finally the officer said,
"Mr. Piper, we've got him.
793
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,337
He's going to jail."
794
00:33:25,462 --> 00:33:28,882
He said, "Well, I just wanted to
have a couple seconds with him."
795
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:30,300
The officer said, "Why?"
796
00:33:30,383 --> 00:33:33,011
And he said,
"Because he stabbed me."
797
00:33:33,094 --> 00:33:35,639
And Roddy took his thumb
off of his chest,
798
00:33:35,764 --> 00:33:39,851
and the blood started squirting
in the officer's face
799
00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:41,353
at every heartbeat.
800
00:33:41,436 --> 00:33:44,523
‐ It was going tsst‐tsst,
tsst‐tsst.
801
00:33:44,648 --> 00:33:46,024
‐ And I went, "Oh!"
802
00:33:46,107 --> 00:33:47,400
‐ Sergeant Slaughter
took me to the hospital
803
00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:49,986
and held the...
held the wound.
804
00:33:50,111 --> 00:33:51,321
‐ Doctor said,
"If that would've went
805
00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:56,576
one more 1/2 inch or less,
you'd be dead."
806
00:33:56,701 --> 00:33:57,994
‐ So what was it like?
807
00:33:58,119 --> 00:33:59,829
It was a living hell.
808
00:33:59,913 --> 00:34:03,333
‐ It wasn't just, "You're a
bad guy on TV," and that's it.
809
00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:04,876
It followed you everywhere.
810
00:34:05,001 --> 00:34:06,836
Dad was stabbed three times
in his life.
811
00:34:06,962 --> 00:34:08,588
Three times they actually
stabbed him,
812
00:34:08,672 --> 00:34:10,465
to the point where
he had a leather jacket
813
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:13,385
that was Kevlar‐lined
and it was stab‐proof
814
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:15,428
because he had been stabbed
so many times.
815
00:34:15,512 --> 00:34:21,643
‐ He was the next generation
to take it to the next level.
816
00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:25,981
‐ What a tremendous match
to have live.
817
00:34:26,106 --> 00:34:27,857
Millions of fans everywhere
818
00:34:27,983 --> 00:34:30,610
can see Greg Valentine and
Roddy Piper go at each other.
819
00:34:30,694 --> 00:34:36,324
‐ Me and Piper started out
a long, long, long journey.
820
00:34:36,408 --> 00:34:39,619
We'd probably wrestled
each other for a year.
821
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:41,663
[crowd cheering]
822
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:43,331
We just walloped each other.
823
00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:46,626
♪ ♪
824
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:51,840
I took Piper's head and rammed
it into the turnbuckle.
825
00:34:51,965 --> 00:34:53,717
♪ ♪
826
00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:55,802
Every time I'd go out there,
827
00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:57,554
I'd beat on his ear.
828
00:34:57,637 --> 00:34:58,888
♪ ♪
829
00:34:59,014 --> 00:34:59,973
Blam!
830
00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:01,641
♪ ♪
831
00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:05,312
So I end up naming it
the Year of the Ear.
832
00:35:05,395 --> 00:35:07,272
‐ Watch him go to that ear.
833
00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:10,650
‐ And I'd laugh, "Ha, ha, ha,
the Year of the Ear."
834
00:35:10,775 --> 00:35:12,777
♪ ♪
835
00:35:12,861 --> 00:35:17,449
And then finally they want
to blow it off, end it.
836
00:35:17,532 --> 00:35:18,283
♪ ♪
837
00:35:18,366 --> 00:35:19,993
‐ What happened was
838
00:35:20,076 --> 00:35:22,162
Bruno Sammartino
and Larry Zbyszko
839
00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:24,831
did $500,000 in Shea Stadium,
840
00:35:24,873 --> 00:35:28,960
so it became a war of
the North against the South,
841
00:35:29,044 --> 00:35:30,420
so the South said,
"All right,
842
00:35:30,503 --> 00:35:32,464
we're gonna put on
the first pay‐per‐view ever."
843
00:35:32,589 --> 00:35:34,257
So they come to me
and they said,
844
00:35:34,341 --> 00:35:37,510
"I want you to make up
the meanest,
845
00:35:37,636 --> 00:35:42,223
nastiest, most brutal match
you can possibly think of."
846
00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:45,352
‐ And Piper came up
with this dog collar.
847
00:35:45,477 --> 00:35:48,396
‐ 40 pounds of chain.
I want you to check it out.
848
00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:49,939
You're gonna see something
849
00:35:50,023 --> 00:35:52,067
you never seen
in your life before.
850
00:35:52,192 --> 00:35:54,361
‐ Well, it was a great idea.
It was my birthday.
851
00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:56,988
Oh, what is this?
This is beautiful.
852
00:35:57,072 --> 00:35:58,323
They presented me
with this big cake.
853
00:35:58,406 --> 00:36:00,700
I love cake.
Wait a minute, what is this?
854
00:36:00,825 --> 00:36:04,579
I look at it and I see
some steel in there,
855
00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:08,166
and I reached down
and pulled out a dog collar.
856
00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:10,293
What? What are you doing?
857
00:36:10,377 --> 00:36:12,170
What are you trying
to do to me?
858
00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:15,548
He wants to have
a dog collar match.
859
00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:19,135
Piper was the best,
the best performer.
860
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:22,514
Good at the mic.
Probably number one at the mic.
861
00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:25,141
Some people said he sounded
like Daffy Duck.
862
00:36:25,266 --> 00:36:27,602
I love Daffy Duck.
[laughs]
863
00:36:27,686 --> 00:36:29,604
‐ You're talking about
the biggest thing
864
00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:32,315
that's ever gonna happen
in the history of wrestling.
865
00:36:32,399 --> 00:36:33,650
[bell dings]
‐ Ladies and gentlemen,
866
00:36:33,775 --> 00:36:37,153
our next event of the evening
is a very special match.
867
00:36:37,237 --> 00:36:39,948
This is a collar match.
868
00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:41,866
‐ It was the very first
pay‐per‐view
869
00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:43,827
ever for wrestling.
870
00:36:43,952 --> 00:36:45,495
[bell dings]
871
00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:48,832
‐ Two men linked together
like this in mortal combat.
872
00:36:48,915 --> 00:36:50,458
‐ This is a strategy.
873
00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:52,544
This is what Piper
talked to me about.
874
00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:55,296
And then, see, I'm the first
one to get nailed.
875
00:36:55,422 --> 00:36:57,882
‐ Used exactly as a whip
as we had talked about.
876
00:36:58,007 --> 00:37:00,719
‐ You could use it
to batter the guy.
877
00:37:00,844 --> 00:37:04,222
Now he's gonna get me
in the teeth right there.
878
00:37:04,305 --> 00:37:06,224
I had to go to the dentist
the next day.
879
00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:07,600
‐ You can see the concern
880
00:37:07,684 --> 00:37:09,310
of the people
watching this match.
881
00:37:09,394 --> 00:37:11,146
They really don't know
what to expect
882
00:37:11,271 --> 00:37:12,981
when two men are going at it
like this.
883
00:37:13,106 --> 00:37:14,649
‐ Now I'm going for the ear.
884
00:37:14,774 --> 00:37:16,860
‐ Look at Valentine
pounding on him now.
885
00:37:16,985 --> 00:37:18,778
♪ ♪
886
00:37:18,862 --> 00:37:20,947
‐ It was a ridiculously
hard match.
887
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:23,491
It was the toughest match,
probably, I've ever been in,
888
00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:25,201
especially with Valentine.
889
00:37:25,326 --> 00:37:26,369
‐ Used as a whip.
890
00:37:26,494 --> 00:37:28,204
Valentine on his knees.
891
00:37:28,329 --> 00:37:29,831
Hard blow to the top
of the head.
892
00:37:29,914 --> 00:37:33,460
‐ No, I'm not just selling;
I'm hurt.
893
00:37:33,585 --> 00:37:35,712
But it's all
for you wrestling fans.
894
00:37:35,837 --> 00:37:39,382
Giving you our love
in a strange way.
895
00:37:39,507 --> 00:37:41,551
[laughs]
896
00:37:41,634 --> 00:37:43,094
♪ ♪
897
00:37:43,178 --> 00:37:44,637
This is the end of it,
right there.
898
00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:46,222
He hog‐tied me.
899
00:37:46,306 --> 00:37:48,141
‐ He got the count.
900
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,810
‐ I think he was the greatest
of all time...
901
00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:52,312
♪ ♪
902
00:37:52,353 --> 00:37:55,231
A really good‐hearted guy
903
00:37:55,356 --> 00:37:57,734
but a really tough
son of a bitch.
904
00:37:59,194 --> 00:38:00,487
‐ Valentine, you say‐‐
905
00:38:00,612 --> 00:38:03,698
you say your strategy
was to take away all my hearing.
906
00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:06,826
You see, what you forgot is,
you got one more ear to go.
907
00:38:06,951 --> 00:38:10,079
♪ ♪
908
00:38:10,205 --> 00:38:13,958
‐ When you look for, you know,
attributes of a bad guy,
909
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,961
you have to be fearless;
910
00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:19,005
you have to have
the gift of gab;
911
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,175
you can say anything
that you want,
912
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:23,968
even though you know
it's gonna be controversial;
913
00:38:24,052 --> 00:38:26,262
you have to be able to
communicate with the audience;
914
00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:30,308
and you have to a certain
attitude about you.
915
00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:33,645
And Roddy had all those
attributes and more.
916
00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:35,188
♪ ♪
917
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:39,734
‐ Vince McMahon has these
plans of expanding nationally.
918
00:38:39,859 --> 00:38:42,904
What's the best way to expand
all over North America?
919
00:38:43,029 --> 00:38:47,033
You get the best wrestlers
from the individual territories
920
00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:51,037
and you bring them all to WWE.
921
00:38:51,162 --> 00:38:52,872
And Vince McMahon
wants it all.
922
00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:57,293
‐ I got a call from Roddy.
He says, "Mr. McMahon called."
923
00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:59,295
I said,
"Yeah, are you coming up?"
924
00:38:59,379 --> 00:39:00,380
He goes, "Yeah, he wants me
to come up."
925
00:39:00,505 --> 00:39:02,131
I said, "Come on up."
926
00:39:02,257 --> 00:39:08,471
Roddy was coming
to New York City.
927
00:39:08,555 --> 00:39:11,266
‐ Let me tell you
how to be Roddy Piper.
928
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:13,351
[laughs]
Have a nice [bleep] day.
929
00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:14,686
Go [bleep] yourself.
930
00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:16,479
Gimme the microphone
and get out of the way.
931
00:39:16,604 --> 00:39:19,983
Bowlegged, big, fat,
ugly penguin.
932
00:39:20,066 --> 00:39:22,193
You know what?
You both stink!
933
00:39:22,277 --> 00:39:23,528
It's as simple as this:
934
00:39:23,653 --> 00:39:26,656
when RP talks, brother,
people listen.
935
00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:30,243
‐ And New York,
936
00:39:30,326 --> 00:39:33,121
New York is big guys,
937
00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:36,374
at least 250‐pounders,
6‐foot whatever.
938
00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:37,959
That's what I was.
939
00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:39,419
You know, Piper, later on,
940
00:39:39,502 --> 00:39:41,170
I guess he gained weight.
941
00:39:41,296 --> 00:39:43,631
But when he first came in,
he was smaller.
942
00:39:43,673 --> 00:39:45,633
‐ So if Roddy's not
the greatest physical specimen
943
00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:47,302
in the world,
then don't let him do that.
944
00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:51,639
Do what Roddy does best.
Let him be a talk show host.
945
00:39:51,764 --> 00:39:53,433
In a moment,
ladies and gentlemen,
946
00:39:53,516 --> 00:39:55,184
we're going to take you
to "Piper's Pit,"
947
00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:56,769
involving, of course,
the rather controversial
948
00:39:56,853 --> 00:40:00,148
and certainly opinionated
Roddy Piper.
949
00:40:00,231 --> 00:40:02,400
‐ They put up a backdrop,
950
00:40:02,525 --> 00:40:04,819
and it was basically
a wrestling talk show
951
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:05,987
to stir the pot.
952
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:08,156
‐ You're a lousy wrestler.
It's a simple as that.
953
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,408
‐ I might be a lousy wrestler,
but I'm still in there,
954
00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:12,493
and I'm not afraid
of nobody‐‐
955
00:40:13,745 --> 00:40:15,830
‐ It was "The Tonight Show"
956
00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:19,083
where the host could end up
beating up the guest.
957
00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:22,670
It was just the most
off‐the‐walls, unpredictable,
958
00:40:22,795 --> 00:40:25,798
amazing idea that ever happened
in television,
959
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,842
in my opinion.
I'm biased, but whatever.
960
00:40:27,926 --> 00:40:29,010
[laughs]
961
00:40:29,135 --> 00:40:31,179
‐ Is he supposed
to scare me?
962
00:40:31,304 --> 00:40:33,139
‐ You had to be ready.
963
00:40:33,181 --> 00:40:34,515
He was witty, smart.
964
00:40:34,641 --> 00:40:35,808
He was like the fastest gun
in the West.
965
00:40:35,892 --> 00:40:37,185
‐ Hello, peasants.
966
00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:38,978
‐ Don't call my father stupid.
967
00:40:39,062 --> 00:40:39,979
‐ Wait, wait, wait...
968
00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:41,564
How you doing, fatso?
969
00:40:41,689 --> 00:40:44,025
‐ He could take some guys
and make them look
970
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:45,443
like heroes and superstars,
971
00:40:45,526 --> 00:40:47,820
or he could kind of like,
if he wanted to,
972
00:40:47,904 --> 00:40:50,365
he could chop you down to size
pretty quick.
973
00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:52,659
‐ I could slam you myself!
I don't care.
974
00:40:52,742 --> 00:40:55,119
You're saying John Studd
did at 520...
975
00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:59,832
[crowd cheering]
976
00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:01,292
‐ The most famous one,
of course,
977
00:41:01,376 --> 00:41:02,794
is the interview
with Jimmy Snuka.
978
00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:04,379
‐ There you go.
979
00:41:04,504 --> 00:41:06,673
‐ There were a couple
of coconuts,
980
00:41:06,798 --> 00:41:09,926
and one of them, you know, had
been what we call "gimmicked,"
981
00:41:10,009 --> 00:41:12,470
but that's not the one
Roddy chose.
982
00:41:12,595 --> 00:41:13,805
‐ Am I making fun of you?
983
00:41:13,846 --> 00:41:15,056
No, sir, no, sir.
984
00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:22,939
[indistinct shouting]
985
00:41:24,023 --> 00:41:25,984
‐ Nothing was scripted
on "Piper's Pit."
986
00:41:26,109 --> 00:41:27,402
‐ There, you sucker!
987
00:41:27,527 --> 00:41:29,278
‐ It was all off of the top
of Dad's head
988
00:41:29,362 --> 00:41:31,489
or something that he'd maybe
written down in a note before.
989
00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:33,324
And that's where
the magic happens.
990
00:41:33,449 --> 00:41:36,202
‐ Just when they think
they got the answers,
991
00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:37,996
I change the questions.
992
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,832
‐ He wasn't famous
for his technique
993
00:41:40,915 --> 00:41:43,042
or his type of wrestling
or how big his arms were
994
00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:44,460
or anything like that.
995
00:41:44,585 --> 00:41:45,753
He was just
an incredible talker
996
00:41:45,837 --> 00:41:47,505
and a guy that was taking
wrestling
997
00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:49,090
and telling a different story.
998
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:53,052
‐ You do not throw rocks at
a man who's got a machine gun!
999
00:41:55,096 --> 00:41:57,223
[Cyndi Lauper's
"Girls Just Want to Have Fun"]
1000
00:41:57,348 --> 00:41:58,474
‐ Ladies and gentlemen,
1001
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,435
I want to introduce to you
1002
00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:02,478
the female entertainer
of the year,
1003
00:42:02,603 --> 00:42:03,688
Miss Cyndi Lauper!
1004
00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:06,482
[crowd cheers]
[laughs]
1005
00:42:06,566 --> 00:42:08,651
‐ Wrestling began
to work with MTV,
1006
00:42:08,735 --> 00:42:11,487
which was absolutely
red‐hot.
1007
00:42:11,612 --> 00:42:13,531
‐ You look wonderful, Cyndi.
1008
00:42:13,656 --> 00:42:17,452
‐ Captain Lou Albano
and Cyndi Lauper were friends,
1009
00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:20,496
and Cyndi Lauper
had put Lou Albano
1010
00:42:20,621 --> 00:42:23,124
in her "Girls Want to Have Fun"
video.
1011
00:42:23,207 --> 00:42:25,460
‐ I said, "Vince, I got
this guy named Dave Wolff
1012
00:42:25,585 --> 00:42:27,086
"that manages Cyndi Lauper,
1013
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:29,088
"and they just did a video
with Albano
1014
00:42:29,172 --> 00:42:31,215
but now they wanna get involved
in the wrestling business."
1015
00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:32,925
And Vince was like, "Hmm, hmm."
1016
00:42:33,009 --> 00:42:35,595
‐ Dave thought it was going
to be good for Cyndi's career.
1017
00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:37,305
You know, here she's doing
this crossover
1018
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:39,807
in this very unusual world.
1019
00:42:39,891 --> 00:42:42,393
It's like,
"What the hell is this?"
1020
00:42:42,518 --> 00:42:46,064
‐ Would you please welcome
Cyndi Lauper!
1021
00:42:46,189 --> 00:42:48,107
[crowd cheering]
1022
00:42:48,191 --> 00:42:54,280
‐ So now there's all this
attention, suddenly, to WWE.
1023
00:42:54,363 --> 00:42:55,990
People who were fashionable,
1024
00:42:56,074 --> 00:42:59,368
people who were in
the rock and roll world,
1025
00:42:59,494 --> 00:43:02,371
they're gonna start
watching WWE.
1026
00:43:02,455 --> 00:43:05,666
So they had this ceremony
in Madison Square Garden.
1027
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:10,671
Lou Albano was one
of the primary forces
1028
00:43:10,797 --> 00:43:13,758
responsible for the
Rock 'n' Wrestling Connection,
1029
00:43:13,841 --> 00:43:16,761
and what better way
to honor a man
1030
00:43:16,844 --> 00:43:18,930
but to give him
a gold record?
1031
00:43:19,013 --> 00:43:21,808
‐ I'm so grateful
to receive this award.
1032
00:43:21,933 --> 00:43:24,102
‐ Now that's going
to provoke some jealousy,
1033
00:43:24,185 --> 00:43:27,480
and who is the most jealous
performer of all?
1034
00:43:27,522 --> 00:43:28,856
‐ There is Roddy Piper.
1035
00:43:28,981 --> 00:43:30,858
‐ This is beautiful, Cyndi.
1036
00:43:30,983 --> 00:43:33,319
‐ Maybe they have some kind
of presentation to make.
1037
00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:35,154
‐ I want to present you
with this.
1038
00:43:36,697 --> 00:43:38,116
‐ Oh! Look out!
1039
00:43:39,826 --> 00:43:42,120
Captain Lou Albano
clobbered!
1040
00:43:42,203 --> 00:43:48,459
‐ Roddy Piper shockingly kicks
the biggest pop star in America,
1041
00:43:48,543 --> 00:43:51,712
a female pop star,
in the head.
1042
00:43:51,838 --> 00:43:54,132
‐ David Wolff trying
to come to the rescue,
1043
00:43:54,215 --> 00:43:56,134
but he's no match!
1044
00:43:56,259 --> 00:43:59,095
Oh, he pile‐drived him
right down into the canvas.
1045
00:43:59,178 --> 00:44:02,890
‐ 20 minutes before
the match, I was asked,
1046
00:44:02,974 --> 00:44:05,560
"Do you think you can kick
Cyndi Lauper and not hurt her?"
1047
00:44:05,685 --> 00:44:07,478
by her manager.
1048
00:44:07,562 --> 00:44:10,314
I'm thinking,
"I hope you never manage me."
1049
00:44:10,439 --> 00:44:11,482
You know?
1050
00:44:11,566 --> 00:44:14,819
But when they saw that,
1051
00:44:14,944 --> 00:44:18,656
uh, Saddam Hussein
got nothing on me.
1052
00:44:18,739 --> 00:44:20,074
‐ Look out!
1053
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:22,827
The Hulkster's
hitting the ring!
1054
00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:24,745
‐ Cyndi wasn't a wrestler,
1055
00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:26,873
so she had to have somebody
defend her honor.
1056
00:44:26,998 --> 00:44:29,458
‐ He knew what he was doing.
He was stirring up the crowd
1057
00:44:29,542 --> 00:44:30,918
and he knew it
and he loved it.
1058
00:44:31,002 --> 00:44:32,295
All heels do.
1059
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:34,755
‐ What a disgraceful display.
1060
00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:37,300
Cyndi, look at her.
1061
00:44:37,425 --> 00:44:39,093
Tears running down her face.
1062
00:44:39,177 --> 00:44:41,304
Hulkster's hot.
Everybody's hot.
1063
00:44:41,387 --> 00:44:45,349
Boy, he wishes he could have
got his hands on Roddy Piper.
1064
00:44:45,474 --> 00:44:47,101
‐ Every dog has its day,
1065
00:44:47,185 --> 00:44:48,477
you know what I'm talking
about?
1066
00:44:48,603 --> 00:44:50,313
And that one's
gonna get his.
1067
00:44:50,396 --> 00:44:53,107
‐ She expects me to sit there
and do nothing about her,
1068
00:44:53,191 --> 00:44:54,817
so I kick her
12 yards across the field.
1069
00:44:54,942 --> 00:44:56,319
‐ But she's a woman.
She's a woman.
1070
00:44:56,444 --> 00:44:57,528
‐ Just imagine it.
1071
00:44:57,653 --> 00:44:59,697
In about a four‐month period,
1072
00:44:59,822 --> 00:45:02,825
I had the kicked Cyndi Lauper
in the head.
1073
00:45:02,909 --> 00:45:05,703
I don't know how many guys
on Piper's Pit I had,
1074
00:45:05,786 --> 00:45:08,497
whatever I had done,
all in this very short time.
1075
00:45:08,623 --> 00:45:11,876
It was getting
really heated up.
1076
00:45:11,959 --> 00:45:14,128
I couldn't go anyplace.
I was fighting.
1077
00:45:14,212 --> 00:45:15,671
I had a family.
1078
00:45:15,796 --> 00:45:17,590
I was fighting
in and out of Denny's.
1079
00:45:17,673 --> 00:45:19,675
It was crazy.
1080
00:45:19,759 --> 00:45:23,554
‐ Roddy understood
that bringing in the musicians
1081
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:24,889
brings it to a whole
nother level,
1082
00:45:25,014 --> 00:45:26,515
so he was onboard for that.
1083
00:45:26,641 --> 00:45:29,227
‐ All right, let me just
step out this way a tad.
1084
00:45:29,352 --> 00:45:32,605
‐ But he found it very hard
being the old‐school person,
1085
00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:36,484
and he tried best he could
to cooperate.
1086
00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:37,985
It was never easy.
1087
00:45:38,110 --> 00:45:41,030
‐ And the last one
is, "MTV stinks"?
1088
00:45:41,113 --> 00:45:43,282
‐ Once we got hooked up
with MTV,
1089
00:45:43,366 --> 00:45:45,117
it took us to mainstream.
1090
00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:46,577
‐ MTV...
1091
00:45:46,702 --> 00:45:48,496
[laughs]
1092
00:45:48,579 --> 00:45:51,832
Music To Vomit by.
1093
00:45:51,916 --> 00:45:53,834
‐ Tonight,
ladies and gentlemen,
1094
00:45:53,918 --> 00:45:56,003
the War to Settle the Score,
1095
00:45:56,128 --> 00:45:57,797
the hottest ticket in town.
1096
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,674
‐ The Rock 'n' Wrestling
Connection
1097
00:45:59,799 --> 00:46:03,135
helped us change the look
of the business
1098
00:46:03,261 --> 00:46:06,389
to where we get families
and kids at ringside.
1099
00:46:06,514 --> 00:46:08,766
‐ This is broadcast on MTV.
1100
00:46:08,849 --> 00:46:11,269
This is big time.
1101
00:46:11,352 --> 00:46:14,146
‐ Everybody wants
to be a part of it.
1102
00:46:14,272 --> 00:46:15,856
Well, there's something
going on here.
1103
00:46:15,982 --> 00:46:18,651
I got to see what it is.
I got to check it out.
1104
00:46:18,734 --> 00:46:21,612
‐ Piper was
the ultimate villain,
1105
00:46:21,696 --> 00:46:23,531
so you want to have
the ultimate villain
1106
00:46:23,656 --> 00:46:25,783
against the ultimate hero.
1107
00:46:25,866 --> 00:46:27,493
‐ It was
the biggest thing ever.
1108
00:46:27,576 --> 00:46:29,912
It was Hogan and Piper
going at it.
1109
00:46:30,037 --> 00:46:31,831
‐ We have got action.
1110
00:46:31,956 --> 00:46:34,166
Oh! They're at it!
[bell dings]
1111
00:46:35,376 --> 00:46:36,794
It's under way.
1112
00:46:36,919 --> 00:46:38,254
Look at this,
back and forth.
1113
00:46:38,337 --> 00:46:40,381
Oh, raking the eyes
of Roddy Piper.
1114
00:46:40,464 --> 00:46:41,799
‐ When I ran into Piper,
1115
00:46:41,882 --> 00:46:43,926
he's the one that made
everything else possible.
1116
00:46:44,010 --> 00:46:47,346
‐ Oh! Dropped
the big elbow on him.
1117
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:49,181
‐ I had to have an opponent,
1118
00:46:49,307 --> 00:46:52,476
and nobody had the air,
the arrogance, the attitude
1119
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,979
to go to toe‐to‐toe with me
and not back down.
1120
00:46:55,062 --> 00:46:56,689
Without Piper,
we could have never,
1121
00:46:56,814 --> 00:46:58,190
never launched
into the stratosphere.
1122
00:46:58,316 --> 00:46:59,942
‐ Oh!
1123
00:47:00,026 --> 00:47:03,195
‐ Piper has two confederates:
1124
00:47:03,321 --> 00:47:07,116
Cowboy Bob Orton, Jr., and
Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorff.
1125
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:08,826
‐ Orndorff going up
to the top rope!
1126
00:47:08,909 --> 00:47:11,579
‐ Oh, please.
‐ Look out!
1127
00:47:11,704 --> 00:47:13,122
‐ They interfere in the match.
1128
00:47:13,205 --> 00:47:15,416
‐ Cyndi Lauper
up on the apron.
1129
00:47:15,499 --> 00:47:18,127
Orndorff going around the side
rope now at Cyndi Lauper.
1130
00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:19,754
‐ What? Wait a minute.
Hold on!
1131
00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:21,547
‐ Mr. T over the railing!
1132
00:47:21,630 --> 00:47:22,965
‐ Oh, no!
1133
00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:25,718
‐ Here comes Mr. T,
ladies and gentlemen...
1134
00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:27,261
‐ Who was going
to save the day?
1135
00:47:27,345 --> 00:47:32,058
Well, Mr. T, the biggest TV star
in the United States.
1136
00:47:32,183 --> 00:47:36,145
Everybody in the country
knows Mr. T.
1137
00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:38,439
‐ They're inviting him
inside the ring.
1138
00:47:38,522 --> 00:47:40,232
‐ And so insert Mr. T.
1139
00:47:40,316 --> 00:47:43,486
It was Vince's way
to interject entertainment.
1140
00:47:43,569 --> 00:47:44,904
It was nothing but excitement
and electricity
1141
00:47:45,029 --> 00:47:46,530
and it sure worked.
1142
00:47:46,655 --> 00:47:47,948
‐ I don't know anything
1143
00:47:48,032 --> 00:47:49,075
about his background
as a wrestler...
1144
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,493
‐ I used to be a bodyguard.
1145
00:47:50,618 --> 00:47:51,744
I used to be a bouncer
at a disco
1146
00:47:51,827 --> 00:47:53,162
and all that stuff.
1147
00:47:53,245 --> 00:47:55,581
You know, now, I knew
how to wrestle, you know,
1148
00:47:55,664 --> 00:47:57,541
and I wasn't no fluff.
1149
00:47:57,625 --> 00:48:00,836
So I stepped into the ring,
and Piper snuck up behind me.
1150
00:48:00,961 --> 00:48:02,380
‐ Piper nailed him
from behind.
1151
00:48:02,463 --> 00:48:03,881
‐ I didn't think it would
go down like that.
1152
00:48:04,006 --> 00:48:05,341
If I'd knew it'd go down
like that,
1153
00:48:05,466 --> 00:48:06,926
I would've have did
something else.
1154
00:48:07,009 --> 00:48:08,302
So therefore I was so...
1155
00:48:08,386 --> 00:48:09,720
I guess I can say pissed.
1156
00:48:09,804 --> 00:48:11,680
‐ All hell has broken loose.
1157
00:48:11,806 --> 00:48:13,557
‐ Roddy was
the ultimate bad guy.
1158
00:48:13,682 --> 00:48:16,602
He sold it. He practiced it.
He was good at what he did.
1159
00:48:16,685 --> 00:48:18,646
‐ We've got a madhouse here.
1160
00:48:18,771 --> 00:48:20,606
‐ Security holding
everyone back.
1161
00:48:20,689 --> 00:48:23,275
‐ And it just went‐‐it just
went berserk, you know?
1162
00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:24,693
It was‐‐
[laughs]
1163
00:48:24,819 --> 00:48:26,654
I laugh at it now
'cause it's so old,
1164
00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:28,155
I think about it,
you know.
1165
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,199
It reminded me
of the Keystone Cops
1166
00:48:30,282 --> 00:48:31,534
'cause everybody
was fighting.
1167
00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:33,661
‐ What happened to our match?
1168
00:48:33,786 --> 00:48:35,538
‐ We don't have
a match anymore.
1169
00:48:35,621 --> 00:48:36,539
It's pandemonium.
1170
00:48:36,664 --> 00:48:38,082
‐ Well, back then,
1171
00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:39,875
we were still really
protecting the business.
1172
00:48:39,959 --> 00:48:41,794
"Should we tell the cops
what we're doing or not?"
1173
00:48:41,836 --> 00:48:43,587
And the standard mode was,
1174
00:48:43,671 --> 00:48:45,047
"Oh, don't tell anybody
anything."
1175
00:48:45,131 --> 00:48:46,757
Let's just get
their natural reaction.
1176
00:48:46,841 --> 00:48:48,926
‐ All of a sudden,
some policemen
1177
00:48:49,009 --> 00:48:50,719
came in the ring on me.
1178
00:48:50,803 --> 00:48:54,306
There's a cop with a gun,
and here the rest of 'em come.
1179
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:55,766
‐ Piper was fighting the cops
and everything.
1180
00:48:55,850 --> 00:48:58,185
It was just insanity.
1181
00:48:58,310 --> 00:49:01,147
‐ Hulk Hogan
was the biggest hero.
1182
00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:02,148
♪ ♪
1183
00:49:02,273 --> 00:49:05,985
Roddy Piper was the most
detested villain.
1184
00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:10,823
And now we are ready
to start our road
1185
00:49:10,906 --> 00:49:16,912
to the first WrestleMania.
1186
00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:18,914
‐ Okay, Ariel, let's go.
Whoo, whoo, whoo!
1187
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:20,499
Come on, Ariel.
1188
00:49:20,583 --> 00:49:21,834
‐ She's tired.
1189
00:49:21,917 --> 00:49:24,378
There's the proud papa.
1190
00:49:24,503 --> 00:49:26,338
Papa Piper.
1191
00:49:26,464 --> 00:49:29,800
‐ My dad often
would say things like,
1192
00:49:29,925 --> 00:49:30,968
"I can't imagine
how hard it is
1193
00:49:31,093 --> 00:49:32,136
to be Roddy Piper's kid."
1194
00:49:32,261 --> 00:49:36,098
‐ Here comes Roddy and Ariel.
1195
00:49:36,182 --> 00:49:38,642
‐ He felt guilty, like he was
some way a bad parent
1196
00:49:38,767 --> 00:49:40,811
because his career was,
in some way,
1197
00:49:40,936 --> 00:49:42,146
affecting our lives.
1198
00:49:42,229 --> 00:49:44,148
[laughter and
indistinct chatter]
1199
00:49:46,525 --> 00:49:49,445
‐ When we were starting out
as a young family,
1200
00:49:49,528 --> 00:49:52,698
he came to me and said,
1201
00:49:52,823 --> 00:49:54,283
"I really do not
want our children
1202
00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:56,660
"to grow up in a hundred
different places.
1203
00:49:56,744 --> 00:49:58,412
I want them to have roots."
1204
00:49:58,537 --> 00:50:00,414
You sure are pretty.
1205
00:50:00,498 --> 00:50:03,542
'Cause he never felt like
he had a home.
1206
00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:06,629
We chose to live
in the country...
1207
00:50:06,712 --> 00:50:07,963
‐ [laughing]
1208
00:50:08,088 --> 00:50:09,673
‐ And have a lot of land
around us.
1209
00:50:09,798 --> 00:50:12,134
It was a safe zone.
1210
00:50:12,218 --> 00:50:16,055
‐ We lived on a 10‐acre ranch
in the middle of nowhere,
1211
00:50:16,180 --> 00:50:17,598
end of a gravel road,
1212
00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:22,686
and we really kept
to just that ranch.
1213
00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:25,022
‐ Good‐bye.
With any kind of luck,
1214
00:50:25,147 --> 00:50:27,274
she'll keep going and we won't
have to feed her.
1215
00:50:27,358 --> 00:50:28,526
[laughs]
1216
00:50:28,651 --> 00:50:30,361
‐ We wanted to be isolated
1217
00:50:30,486 --> 00:50:33,322
because we had actual stalkers
who would come
1218
00:50:33,447 --> 00:50:36,951
and try and break into our house
or be on our property.
1219
00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:42,039
‐ We did not go to the malls.
We did not go to the movies.
1220
00:50:42,164 --> 00:50:45,000
I must've gotten 30 fights
in one year,
1221
00:50:45,084 --> 00:50:46,835
just because people wanted
1222
00:50:46,961 --> 00:50:49,255
to test their moxie
against me.
1223
00:50:50,005 --> 00:50:51,215
[dog barks]
1224
00:50:51,298 --> 00:50:54,009
♪ ♪
1225
00:50:54,134 --> 00:50:56,220
‐ And this kind of thing
is real life.
1226
00:50:56,303 --> 00:50:57,513
♪ ♪
1227
00:50:57,638 --> 00:51:00,808
This is the kind of thing
that makes a family.
1228
00:51:00,849 --> 00:51:02,560
♪ ♪
1229
00:51:02,685 --> 00:51:04,895
It's a great way of nature,
1230
00:51:04,979 --> 00:51:07,147
just teaching a family
how to be a family
1231
00:51:07,231 --> 00:51:08,399
and stay together.
1232
00:51:08,482 --> 00:51:11,110
♪ ♪
1233
00:51:13,404 --> 00:51:17,658
‐ I had a meeting with a small
room full of our executives,
1234
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:18,993
and I said,
1235
00:51:19,076 --> 00:51:20,119
"There is a Super Bowl,
you know.
1236
00:51:20,202 --> 00:51:21,328
There's a World Series."
1237
00:51:21,412 --> 00:51:22,621
There's this, there's that.
1238
00:51:22,705 --> 00:51:24,164
It was really common sense.
1239
00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:26,792
So why not have
one of your own?
1240
00:51:26,875 --> 00:51:28,794
Call it WrestleMania.
1241
00:51:28,877 --> 00:51:30,421
We would not have
WrestleMania I
1242
00:51:30,504 --> 00:51:32,339
had it not been for Roddy
because you have to have,
1243
00:51:32,464 --> 00:51:35,175
again, a strong antagonist
to go with the protagonist.
1244
00:51:35,301 --> 00:51:37,469
‐ Check this out, dude.
Check that out.
1245
00:51:37,511 --> 00:51:39,096
‐ You have to have
good stories
1246
00:51:39,179 --> 00:51:41,056
and you have to have
bold characters
1247
00:51:41,181 --> 00:51:42,683
and larger‐than‐life
individuals,
1248
00:51:42,766 --> 00:51:44,351
and Roddy was all of that.
1249
00:51:44,476 --> 00:51:47,271
So I knew I had Roddy,
I knew I had Hogan and Mr. T.
1250
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,815
It was like,
that was gonna work.
1251
00:51:49,857 --> 00:51:53,277
‐ How does it feel to be
portraying someone like myself?
1252
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,820
‐ Well, you ain't nothing, man.
1253
00:51:54,945 --> 00:51:56,196
‐ Oh, oh, why?
1254
00:51:56,322 --> 00:51:58,449
Oh, because I don't have
a chair with my name on it?
1255
00:51:58,532 --> 00:52:01,118
‐ Roddy Piper really did not
like Mr. T.
1256
00:52:01,201 --> 00:52:03,537
‐ Don't look at‐‐
‐ Hey, hey, hey.
1257
00:52:03,662 --> 00:52:05,164
[overlapping shouting]
1258
00:52:05,289 --> 00:52:08,959
‐ In those days, you know,
you really paid some dues
1259
00:52:09,001 --> 00:52:11,253
to be in the main event.
1260
00:52:11,337 --> 00:52:15,215
Then Mr. T walks in, not even
having a match anywhere,
1261
00:52:15,341 --> 00:52:17,843
and it's like, "What right
does he have to be in my ring
1262
00:52:17,968 --> 00:52:18,969
in the main event?"
1263
00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:20,471
‐ You want to get in there,
brother,
1264
00:52:20,596 --> 00:52:22,431
and you want to try
some fighting, huh?
1265
00:52:22,514 --> 00:52:26,143
‐ We'd never brought in
somebody from the outside,
1266
00:52:26,226 --> 00:52:27,519
and one of the biggest
problems I had
1267
00:52:27,603 --> 00:52:30,564
was the barbaric mindset
of Piper and Orndorff.
1268
00:52:30,689 --> 00:52:32,399
‐ You're looking at someone
that will...
1269
00:52:32,483 --> 00:52:33,942
‐ "He's an actor.
He's not into wrestling.
1270
00:52:34,026 --> 00:52:34,985
We're just gonna
break his legs."
1271
00:52:35,069 --> 00:52:36,445
I said, "Guys, please."
1272
00:52:36,528 --> 00:52:38,364
‐ How can I say it
without sounding cocky?
1273
00:52:38,447 --> 00:52:41,200
They didn't understand
that bringing me in
1274
00:52:41,325 --> 00:52:43,160
would broaden they thing
1275
00:52:43,285 --> 00:52:45,579
because, basically,
you know, Vince,
1276
00:52:45,704 --> 00:52:47,539
being the pioneer
that he is, he said,
1277
00:52:47,665 --> 00:52:49,958
"Wow, we gonna broaden,
bring it to the world."
1278
00:52:50,042 --> 00:52:51,460
‐ You come on down, T.
1279
00:52:51,543 --> 00:52:54,672
We'll put an X
where the T should be.
1280
00:52:54,797 --> 00:52:57,716
‐ Roddy hated the thought
of a Mr. T
1281
00:52:57,841 --> 00:52:59,802
coming into his arena.
1282
00:52:59,927 --> 00:53:03,013
It's an insult. It's a slap
in the face to the business.
1283
00:53:03,138 --> 00:53:05,015
‐ I had these two guys
1284
00:53:05,140 --> 00:53:06,725
that had this
old‐school mentality,
1285
00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:11,313
and plus I got this guy who's
got this real edgy attitude.
1286
00:53:11,397 --> 00:53:12,940
You know, he's always talking
in the third person.
1287
00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:14,316
"Mr. T don't put up with that."
1288
00:53:14,441 --> 00:53:15,818
‐ Mr. T ain't no powder puff,
1289
00:53:15,901 --> 00:53:17,903
you had to understand,
you know.
1290
00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:20,489
‐ They didn't want to lose
to Mr. T
1291
00:53:20,614 --> 00:53:22,616
because he's not
a "real wrestler."
1292
00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:24,326
[no audible dialogue]
1293
00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:27,579
‐ There I am, the hottest heel
they've ever had,
1294
00:53:27,705 --> 00:53:31,333
and now they want me
to take a dive.
1295
00:53:31,417 --> 00:53:33,460
I said, "I ain't doing it."
1296
00:53:33,544 --> 00:53:35,421
‐ I was kind of like
the babysitter,
1297
00:53:35,504 --> 00:53:37,339
the moderator,
the peacekeeper,
1298
00:53:37,423 --> 00:53:39,550
and I was ready to have
a nervous breakdown.
1299
00:53:39,675 --> 00:53:43,887
‐ The wrestling extravaganza
of all time, WrestleMania.
1300
00:53:44,012 --> 00:53:45,180
‐ The people knew
1301
00:53:45,305 --> 00:53:47,766
the wrestling business
was changing that night.
1302
00:53:47,850 --> 00:53:52,646
There was a fever pitch
in Madison Square Garden.
1303
00:53:52,771 --> 00:53:54,398
‐ Piper's gonna get it.
‐ Get what?
1304
00:53:54,523 --> 00:53:55,941
‐ Get his butt kicked.
1305
00:53:56,024 --> 00:53:57,818
♪ ♪
1306
00:53:57,901 --> 00:54:02,489
‐ What do you do to show
the world what this product is
1307
00:54:02,614 --> 00:54:04,908
and what it will be, you know,
in a really big way?
1308
00:54:04,992 --> 00:54:07,536
Liberace, how the hell
doe he fit into any of this?
1309
00:54:07,661 --> 00:54:09,496
He doesn't.
That's why I had him.
1310
00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:13,333
This is what sports
entertainment is all about.
1311
00:54:13,417 --> 00:54:15,544
It was everything we had,
we threw it in,
1312
00:54:15,669 --> 00:54:17,838
and let's roll the dice
and do it in a big way.
1313
00:54:17,921 --> 00:54:19,965
Everything I had
was on the line.
1314
00:54:20,048 --> 00:54:21,133
[playing
spirited bagpipe music]
1315
00:54:21,175 --> 00:54:22,801
‐ There he is.
1316
00:54:22,885 --> 00:54:23,969
[crowd booing]
1317
00:54:24,052 --> 00:54:25,596
‐ Rowdy Roddy Piper...
1318
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:29,349
‐ Here is what is arguably
the turning point
1319
00:54:29,475 --> 00:54:32,895
of the WWE
in just so many ways.
1320
00:54:32,978 --> 00:54:34,980
Roddy was very stubborn,
1321
00:54:35,063 --> 00:54:37,232
but you're about
to make more money
1322
00:54:37,357 --> 00:54:39,985
than you ever had
in your entire lifetime.
1323
00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:41,653
[bell dings]
1324
00:54:41,779 --> 00:54:44,323
‐ There goes the bell.
Look at the bell by Liberace.
1325
00:54:44,406 --> 00:54:45,991
‐ Fans are chanting T, T, T.
1326
00:54:46,116 --> 00:54:47,159
And they're going
nose‐to‐nose.
1327
00:54:47,201 --> 00:54:48,744
‐ Lookit, nose‐to‐nose.
1328
00:54:48,869 --> 00:54:51,663
‐ Mr. T and Rowdy Roddy Piper,
nose‐to‐nose...
1329
00:54:51,789 --> 00:54:54,917
‐ Roddy was smart enough
to know,
1330
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,210
"Yeah, I'm gonna do business,
1331
00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:57,377
and I'm gonna make it
look right.
1332
00:54:57,461 --> 00:54:59,797
You don't have to like it.
1333
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,840
‐ They're exchanging‐‐oh!
1334
00:55:01,965 --> 00:55:04,802
Piper now goes behind quickly,
takes him down to the canvas.
1335
00:55:04,885 --> 00:55:08,514
‐ At a certain point,
Roddy Piper instructs Mr. T,
1336
00:55:08,597 --> 00:55:11,141
"Pick me up
in a fireman's carry."
1337
00:55:11,225 --> 00:55:13,811
‐ Oh, nice fireman's carry.
1338
00:55:13,936 --> 00:55:15,312
‐ Even though he didn't want
1339
00:55:15,395 --> 00:55:17,481
Mr. T
to take advantage of him,
1340
00:55:17,606 --> 00:55:20,943
Roddy Piper knows
how to sell himself,
1341
00:55:21,026 --> 00:55:23,695
and he knows that's the photo
1342
00:55:23,821 --> 00:55:25,656
that will go
all over the world.
1343
00:55:25,739 --> 00:55:27,324
♪ ♪
1344
00:55:27,366 --> 00:55:28,867
‐ What's he gonna
do with him?
1345
00:55:28,951 --> 00:55:31,411
Oh, drops him like
yesterday's newspaper.
1346
00:55:31,537 --> 00:55:32,955
‐ You need to make Mr. T
the hero.
1347
00:55:33,038 --> 00:55:34,498
This is what this is all about.
1348
00:55:34,581 --> 00:55:35,999
‐ Mr. T now
in the wrong corner.
1349
00:55:36,124 --> 00:55:37,626
Here comes the Hulk.
1350
00:55:37,751 --> 00:55:39,294
‐ Mr. T should have beaten
one of those guys
1351
00:55:39,378 --> 00:55:40,879
right in the middle
of the ring,
1352
00:55:41,004 --> 00:55:42,297
preferably Piper.
1353
00:55:42,381 --> 00:55:43,882
‐ As Piper
was about to lower‐‐
1354
00:55:44,007 --> 00:55:45,425
Look out!
1355
00:55:45,509 --> 00:55:48,220
‐ But instead,
they had to have Orton
1356
00:55:48,303 --> 00:55:49,930
jump off the top rope
with a cast.
1357
00:55:50,013 --> 00:55:53,684
It hits Orndorff on the head
just so we could get a win.
1358
00:55:53,809 --> 00:55:55,936
Piper didn't want
to do the job,
1359
00:55:56,019 --> 00:55:57,855
even in WrestleMania.
1360
00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:59,982
You're the bad guy.
You're supposed to get beat.
1361
00:56:00,107 --> 00:56:01,608
That's what bad guys do.
1362
00:56:01,692 --> 00:56:03,026
♪ ♪
1363
00:56:03,110 --> 00:56:05,863
He was so protective
about protecting Roddy Piper,
1364
00:56:05,988 --> 00:56:09,908
and he didn't realize if
you just listen to our opinion,
1365
00:56:09,992 --> 00:56:12,536
I think you might find things
a lot easier.
1366
00:56:12,661 --> 00:56:13,996
♪ ♪
1367
00:56:14,121 --> 00:56:16,164
But Piper didn't like me,
you know, at all.
1368
00:56:16,248 --> 00:56:18,959
I mean, there was no rapport
at all with him and I.
1369
00:56:19,042 --> 00:56:20,377
It was strictly business.
1370
00:56:20,502 --> 00:56:22,129
We didn't talk
unless we had to.
1371
00:56:22,254 --> 00:56:25,299
But later on in life, Piper and
I got to be real good friends.
1372
00:56:25,382 --> 00:56:26,884
I said, "You screwed up, man.
1373
00:56:27,009 --> 00:56:28,719
"You could've been one of
the richest guys I've ever met,
1374
00:56:28,802 --> 00:56:31,346
but you wouldn't let me
beat you."
1375
00:56:31,471 --> 00:56:32,514
So he goes, "Damn it.
I'm so pissed.
1376
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:33,891
I wish we would've talked."
1377
00:56:34,016 --> 00:56:36,602
I said, "I tried to talk.
You wouldn't talk to me."
1378
00:56:38,061 --> 00:56:39,897
‐ Hulk Hogan, Mr. T,
1379
00:56:40,022 --> 00:56:43,275
kind of taking the center
stage of that whole event,
1380
00:56:43,358 --> 00:56:45,402
he always felt
1381
00:56:45,485 --> 00:56:46,945
they couldn't have been
the center stage
1382
00:56:47,029 --> 00:56:48,989
without him being there,
being the bad guy.
1383
00:56:49,031 --> 00:56:52,993
And he knew his worth.
He knew his worth.
1384
00:56:53,035 --> 00:56:59,333
‐ It's things like that that
made Roddy the ultimate rebel.
1385
00:56:59,374 --> 00:57:02,169
♪ ♪
1386
00:57:02,294 --> 00:57:04,046
‐ For myself to stay on top,
1387
00:57:04,171 --> 00:57:07,299
I needed to get out
of the business completely,
1388
00:57:07,341 --> 00:57:09,635
do something
in another form.
1389
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,219
♪ ♪
1390
00:57:11,345 --> 00:57:12,763
‐ I spent a lot of time
with Roddy
1391
00:57:12,846 --> 00:57:14,973
and had a lot
of big talks with Roddy
1392
00:57:15,057 --> 00:57:16,308
about that time period,
1393
00:57:16,391 --> 00:57:17,976
and I remember Roddy
basically telling me
1394
00:57:18,101 --> 00:57:22,522
that you got to have something
else after wrestling.
1395
00:57:22,606 --> 00:57:23,649
"What are you gonna do
after that?"
1396
00:57:23,732 --> 00:57:25,317
And he's like, "Hollywood."
1397
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,154
♪ ♪
1398
00:57:29,237 --> 00:57:33,241
‐ Roddy had a quality
that I could use in a movie.
1399
00:57:33,325 --> 00:57:35,410
‐ Well, first of all, he didn't
have a pretty‐boy face
1400
00:57:35,535 --> 00:57:36,995
like a Hollywood actor,
1401
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:40,332
and this role required him
to be kind of a working man.
1402
00:57:40,457 --> 00:57:42,542
‐ You, you're okay.
1403
00:57:42,626 --> 00:57:45,212
This one?
Real [bleep] ugly.
1404
00:57:45,337 --> 00:57:48,840
‐ The character of John Nada
is really based a lot on Roddy
1405
00:57:48,924 --> 00:57:50,842
and his past
and what he'd been through,
1406
00:57:50,968 --> 00:57:53,220
and he added a lot
of color to that.
1407
00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:56,098
He gave me a notebook.
1408
00:57:56,181 --> 00:57:58,600
Now, this notebook were
written all these phrases
1409
00:57:58,684 --> 00:58:00,811
and ideas he had
for interviews.
1410
00:58:00,894 --> 00:58:03,313
♪ ♪
1411
00:58:03,438 --> 00:58:04,898
And right there,
sitting there, was,
1412
00:58:04,982 --> 00:58:06,650
"I've come here to chew
bubble gum and kick ass,
1413
00:58:06,692 --> 00:58:09,069
and I'm all out
of bubble gum."
1414
00:58:09,194 --> 00:58:11,113
I went, "That's a great line.
I could use that."
1415
00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:16,368
‐ I have come here to chew
bubble gum and kick ass,
1416
00:58:16,493 --> 00:58:18,996
and I'm all out of bubble gum.
1417
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:20,080
‐ Oh, [bleep]!
[gunshot]
1418
00:58:22,708 --> 00:58:26,294
‐ That's all his idea.
That was all from his brain.
1419
00:58:26,420 --> 00:58:29,214
‐ I've never felt safer
in my life
1420
00:58:29,339 --> 00:58:32,217
than fighting
with Roddy Piper.
1421
00:58:32,342 --> 00:58:34,219
[both grunting]
1422
00:58:35,429 --> 00:58:36,930
I believe that fight scene
1423
00:58:37,014 --> 00:58:39,474
lasts literally about
seven minutes onscreen.
1424
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,893
[both grunting and shouting]
1425
00:58:42,019 --> 00:58:43,186
‐ We really, you know,
1426
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:45,063
choreographed the [bleep]
out of it.
1427
00:58:45,188 --> 00:58:48,567
But there was one time
we were both so hyped up‐‐
1428
00:58:48,692 --> 00:58:50,027
I was especially hyped up‐‐
1429
00:58:50,152 --> 00:58:52,404
and that first punch,
1430
00:58:52,487 --> 00:58:54,031
I hit him right in the face.
1431
00:58:54,156 --> 00:58:56,825
And it was‐‐and I'd be like,
"Oh, [bleep]. Oh, [bleep]."
1432
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:58,493
And he's like,
"Come on, man. Don't worry.
1433
00:58:58,618 --> 00:59:01,121
"Come on, snap out of it.
Come on, let's start again."
1434
00:59:01,204 --> 00:59:02,497
And he was great.
1435
00:59:02,581 --> 00:59:06,209
‐ Brother, life's a bitch.
1436
00:59:07,461 --> 00:59:09,129
Don't feel sorry for me.
1437
00:59:09,212 --> 00:59:10,714
My name's John Nada.
1438
00:59:10,839 --> 00:59:12,049
‐ [laughs]
1439
00:59:12,132 --> 00:59:13,925
A year and a half
we were in Los Angeles
1440
00:59:14,009 --> 00:59:15,469
while he was filming
those movies.
1441
00:59:15,594 --> 00:59:16,970
He brought the scripts home,
1442
00:59:17,054 --> 00:59:18,555
and we'd go over them.
1443
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,934
He was always leaving
to go to acting classes.
1444
00:59:23,894 --> 00:59:26,855
I mean, it was‐‐it was
a whole nother lifestyle.
1445
00:59:29,524 --> 00:59:31,568
‐ It was not
like it was today,
1446
00:59:31,651 --> 00:59:33,320
where it's a lot more flexible
1447
00:59:33,403 --> 00:59:35,447
for wrestlers
to also do acting.
1448
00:59:35,530 --> 00:59:37,324
Back then, it was,
you didn't do that.
1449
00:59:37,449 --> 00:59:39,618
It was not an easy road to be,
1450
00:59:39,701 --> 00:59:42,329
really, the first wrestler
to go into film.
1451
00:59:42,412 --> 00:59:43,413
‐ When Vince
was booking everything,
1452
00:59:43,538 --> 00:59:44,915
without Piper's name,
1453
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,709
it was real hard for us
to make that transition
1454
00:59:47,793 --> 00:59:49,836
'cause Piper was so hot
at the time.
1455
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,546
‐ If Roddy wanted to go off
and do film,
1456
00:59:51,671 --> 00:59:53,048
what am I going to say?
1457
00:59:53,173 --> 00:59:54,800
No, don't take advantage
of that opportunity?
1458
00:59:54,925 --> 00:59:56,843
As long as I know
that he's coming back.
1459
00:59:56,968 --> 00:59:59,679
‐ He loved acting
and he loved the work of it
1460
00:59:59,805 --> 01:00:01,681
but he felt alienated
1461
01:00:01,807 --> 01:00:03,558
and didn't really have
a lot in common
1462
01:00:03,683 --> 01:00:06,103
with a lot of the people
in Hollywood.
1463
01:00:06,186 --> 01:00:09,022
‐ The only people
that can understand me
1464
01:00:09,147 --> 01:00:10,357
are other wrestlers.
1465
01:00:10,482 --> 01:00:12,859
♪ ♪
1466
01:00:12,984 --> 01:00:15,821
I needed to come back
to the WWE...
1467
01:00:15,946 --> 01:00:17,489
♪ ♪
1468
01:00:17,572 --> 01:00:19,032
and walk back in
the front door.
1469
01:00:19,157 --> 01:00:25,163
♪ ♪
1470
01:00:25,288 --> 01:00:27,624
‐ Rowdy Roddy Piper!
1471
01:00:27,707 --> 01:00:32,629
‐ When I came back into
wrestling from Hollywood,
1472
01:00:32,671 --> 01:00:37,217
bringing that credibility back
was huge.
1473
01:00:38,844 --> 01:00:41,179
‐ As far as Roddy's
standpoint is,
1474
01:00:41,263 --> 01:00:42,597
well, you had to bring me back
1475
01:00:42,681 --> 01:00:44,015
because I was the greatest
star of all time.
1476
01:00:44,141 --> 01:00:47,853
You know, that would be Roddy's
point of view.
1477
01:00:47,978 --> 01:00:49,563
But it didn't matter
what you want.
1478
01:00:49,688 --> 01:00:51,606
You give the audience
what they want.
1479
01:00:51,690 --> 01:00:54,484
They want Roddy to come back,
well, let's give them Roddy.
1480
01:00:54,568 --> 01:00:57,362
‐ Standing ovation here
for Rowdy Roddy.
1481
01:00:57,487 --> 01:00:58,989
‐ And after a respite,
1482
01:00:59,072 --> 01:01:00,657
you know,
Roddy's ready to come back.
1483
01:01:00,740 --> 01:01:02,409
Great, he's fresh.
He's new all over again.
1484
01:01:02,534 --> 01:01:03,660
Different set of opponents.
1485
01:01:03,785 --> 01:01:05,370
‐ Mr. Downey?
1486
01:01:05,495 --> 01:01:07,539
‐ Yes, Mr. Piper?
1487
01:01:07,664 --> 01:01:10,083
‐ Don't blow no more smoke
in my face.
1488
01:01:10,167 --> 01:01:11,376
‐ Morton Downey, Jr.,
was a talk show host.
1489
01:01:11,459 --> 01:01:12,711
You know, he was a big mouth.
1490
01:01:12,836 --> 01:01:14,462
And Roddy had this
impeccable timing.
1491
01:01:14,588 --> 01:01:17,799
So when Downey blows smoke
in Roddy's face,
1492
01:01:17,924 --> 01:01:21,303
it's like,
"One, two, three, four."
1493
01:01:21,386 --> 01:01:23,054
Instead of
immediately doing it,
1494
01:01:23,138 --> 01:01:24,973
"Watch something's going
to happen now."
1495
01:01:25,056 --> 01:01:26,141
And then it does.
1496
01:01:26,224 --> 01:01:27,350
‐ Ya‐ha!
1497
01:01:27,434 --> 01:01:28,393
[laughs]
1498
01:01:30,353 --> 01:01:31,938
‐ He was so creative.
1499
01:01:32,022 --> 01:01:34,316
‐ I think the fire is out,
Jess.
1500
01:01:34,399 --> 01:01:35,859
‐ Very quick on his feet.
1501
01:01:35,984 --> 01:01:37,068
♪ ♪
1502
01:01:37,194 --> 01:01:40,655
But at the same time,
he was very opinionated
1503
01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:42,991
and wanted someone
to listen to his opinion.
1504
01:01:43,116 --> 01:01:45,327
I listened to a lot
of Roddy's ideas,
1505
01:01:45,452 --> 01:01:47,120
some of which were really
dead on
1506
01:01:47,204 --> 01:01:49,998
and some of which were,
whew, wow, that was out there.
1507
01:01:50,081 --> 01:01:51,958
‐ They say you shouldn't blow
your own horn.
1508
01:01:52,042 --> 01:01:53,210
Don't they say that?
Why not?
1509
01:01:53,293 --> 01:01:55,670
‐ You are the most
arrogant individual
1510
01:01:55,795 --> 01:01:57,297
I think we've ever had.
1511
01:01:57,380 --> 01:01:58,840
‐ I believe Roddy once
described our relationship
1512
01:01:58,965 --> 01:02:01,468
as a love‐hate relationship.
1513
01:02:01,509 --> 01:02:02,969
We never fought.
1514
01:02:03,094 --> 01:02:05,680
There were a couple times
when it was very close,
1515
01:02:05,764 --> 01:02:07,766
but that was the way it was
back in those days.
1516
01:02:07,849 --> 01:02:10,143
A lot of times, you settled
things in a fistfight.
1517
01:02:10,227 --> 01:02:11,645
You just did.
1518
01:02:11,770 --> 01:02:14,314
‐ Vince and I were two peas
in a pod.
1519
01:02:14,397 --> 01:02:16,274
I love the ass[bleep].
1520
01:02:16,358 --> 01:02:17,484
I do.
1521
01:02:17,525 --> 01:02:19,319
He's an ass[bleep] sometimes.
1522
01:02:19,402 --> 01:02:21,696
So am I.
1523
01:02:21,821 --> 01:02:23,448
[crowd chanting "Roddy"]
1524
01:02:23,531 --> 01:02:27,160
‐ Roddy Piper was
an attraction all to himself.
1525
01:02:27,244 --> 01:02:30,038
The fans could no longer
boo him.
1526
01:02:30,163 --> 01:02:31,665
♪ ♪
1527
01:02:31,706 --> 01:02:34,459
You came to see
Roddy Piper's intensity,
1528
01:02:34,542 --> 01:02:36,753
you came
to hear his big mouth,
1529
01:02:36,836 --> 01:02:40,632
and you came to watch
that frenzied,
1530
01:02:40,757 --> 01:02:45,262
kinetic spirit
he brought between the ropes.
1531
01:02:45,345 --> 01:02:50,058
‐ Rowdy Roddy Piper!
1532
01:02:50,183 --> 01:02:54,771
‐ Whether he won
or whether he was humiliated,
1533
01:02:54,854 --> 01:02:56,773
he was a draw,
and he remained a draw.
1534
01:02:56,856 --> 01:02:59,985
‐ We have a new
intercontinental champion:
1535
01:03:00,068 --> 01:03:02,821
Hot Rod Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1536
01:03:02,946 --> 01:03:05,782
‐ Roddy Piper was maturing,
1537
01:03:05,865 --> 01:03:08,994
and it wasn't
all about Roddy
1538
01:03:09,077 --> 01:03:14,457
and Roddy was proving that,
hey, I can make people too.
1539
01:03:14,541 --> 01:03:16,126
♪ ♪
1540
01:03:16,251 --> 01:03:19,087
‐ I wouldn't lay my shoulders
down for anybody.
1541
01:03:19,170 --> 01:03:23,216
But when I do,
I make somebody,
1542
01:03:23,341 --> 01:03:24,926
and it means something.
1543
01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:26,928
‐ This is
going to be something!
1544
01:03:27,762 --> 01:03:29,514
‐ This was a special match.
1545
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:30,807
This is the biggest moment
in my life,
1546
01:03:30,932 --> 01:03:31,975
for sure, up to this point.
1547
01:03:32,058 --> 01:03:35,061
Roddy really launched me.
1548
01:03:35,186 --> 01:03:36,980
Like, my whole career
just starting climbing,
1549
01:03:37,105 --> 01:03:40,233
and it was Roddy was the one
that gave me that first boost.
1550
01:03:40,317 --> 01:03:43,028
‐ This is the first time
these two men are meeting
1551
01:03:43,153 --> 01:03:44,654
for the World Wrestling
Entertainment
1552
01:03:44,738 --> 01:03:46,114
intercontinental title.
1553
01:03:46,197 --> 01:03:48,366
‐ I think the last time‐‐I think
I did watch this, maybe,
1554
01:03:48,491 --> 01:03:49,451
when Roddy died.
1555
01:03:49,534 --> 01:03:50,827
I always make a point of, like,
1556
01:03:50,910 --> 01:03:53,496
trying to go back
and find some good memories.
1557
01:03:53,580 --> 01:03:57,751
‐ I always felt Roddy
took a special interest in me.
1558
01:03:57,876 --> 01:03:59,294
Roddy was born in Saskatoon,
1559
01:03:59,377 --> 01:04:01,171
and my dad grew up
in Saskatoon.
1560
01:04:01,296 --> 01:04:03,965
And there was a possibility
that their name‐‐
1561
01:04:04,007 --> 01:04:05,383
like, they were in
the same family.
1562
01:04:05,467 --> 01:04:08,345
Maybe there was
some blood between us.
1563
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:10,221
When I first met him,
1564
01:04:10,347 --> 01:04:12,098
we joked that we might
be cousins.
1565
01:04:12,182 --> 01:04:13,933
Like, it was like, "Hey, cuz."
1566
01:04:14,017 --> 01:04:16,519
And I didn't mind. I never
minded Roddy being a cousin.
1567
01:04:16,644 --> 01:04:21,232
‐ I know this guy since he'd
been knee‐high to a grasshopper.
1568
01:04:21,316 --> 01:04:23,860
I remember when they were
changing your potty pants.
1569
01:04:23,943 --> 01:04:26,821
‐ I think it was a message
to the other wrestlers,
1570
01:04:26,905 --> 01:04:28,615
some of the other superstars
1571
01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:30,658
that weren't in the habit
of reaching down
1572
01:04:30,784 --> 01:04:32,243
to help the next guys.
1573
01:04:32,369 --> 01:04:33,995
Roddy was like, "Here,
I'll show you how it's done."
1574
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:36,331
‐ Eye‐to‐eye, nose‐to‐nose.
1575
01:04:36,456 --> 01:04:38,416
‐ But I was relieved
to find out
1576
01:04:38,541 --> 01:04:40,377
that this guy's really
pitching for me.
1577
01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:42,921
He's actually opening
the doors for me.
1578
01:04:44,047 --> 01:04:45,465
That match was Roddy's match.
1579
01:04:45,590 --> 01:04:46,716
‐ Now Rowdy Roddy...
1580
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,134
Oh, bulldog!
1581
01:04:48,218 --> 01:04:50,303
‐ Roddy put that match
together.
1582
01:04:50,345 --> 01:04:52,055
‐ Wide open!
1583
01:04:52,180 --> 01:04:55,683
‐ Roddy was so tuned in to
what would work with the fans.
1584
01:04:55,809 --> 01:04:57,060
‐ He's got the bell.
1585
01:04:57,185 --> 01:04:58,561
Piper's gonna
ring his bell.
1586
01:04:58,645 --> 01:05:01,898
‐ They don't want him
to brain me with the bell.
1587
01:05:02,857 --> 01:05:04,526
"No, no, don't do it."
1588
01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:06,820
‐ He's having second thoughts.
1589
01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:08,321
‐ His conscience
gets the better of him,
1590
01:05:08,446 --> 01:05:11,574
and he changes his mind here
and decides not to.
1591
01:05:13,201 --> 01:05:14,494
‐ Oh, look at that move
1592
01:05:14,536 --> 01:05:16,204
off the turnbuckle!
1593
01:05:16,329 --> 01:05:17,914
It's over!
[crowd cheers]
1594
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:19,666
‐ See that? Being a nice guy,
it cost him.
1595
01:05:19,707 --> 01:05:20,959
Idiot.
1596
01:05:22,168 --> 01:05:23,420
[laughs]
1597
01:05:23,503 --> 01:05:24,921
♪ ♪
1598
01:05:25,004 --> 01:05:27,298
Over the years,
Roddy told me many times
1599
01:05:27,382 --> 01:05:29,300
that it was his most
favorite match,
1600
01:05:29,384 --> 01:05:32,595
and, you know,
you never forget that.
1601
01:05:33,638 --> 01:05:35,348
‐ There's an old saying
that's,
1602
01:05:35,473 --> 01:05:37,809
"You need a license to hunt.
You need a license to fish.
1603
01:05:37,934 --> 01:05:39,477
"Any jerk can have a kid.
1604
01:05:39,561 --> 01:05:41,646
It takes a man to be a dad."
1605
01:05:41,729 --> 01:05:43,231
♪ ♪
1606
01:05:43,356 --> 01:05:44,607
Oh, man.
1607
01:05:44,691 --> 01:05:48,236
‐ When I look at my childhood,
my dad was gone almost every day
1608
01:05:48,361 --> 01:05:49,988
for at least
up until I was five.
1609
01:05:50,113 --> 01:05:53,825
‐ The first, at least,
12 years of my life,
1610
01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:55,660
he was gone for long periods
of time.
1611
01:05:55,702 --> 01:05:58,663
I think at one point, I didn't
see him for over a year.
1612
01:05:58,788 --> 01:06:00,373
♪ ♪
1613
01:06:00,457 --> 01:06:01,749
‐ We both made
the same choice,
1614
01:06:01,875 --> 01:06:03,126
that the wrestling business
1615
01:06:03,209 --> 01:06:05,545
took precedent over anything,
even family,
1616
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:07,130
so that's a tough choice
1617
01:06:07,255 --> 01:06:09,090
to look in the mirror
and live with.
1618
01:06:09,174 --> 01:06:15,221
‐ You were gone at least
300 days a year, every year.
1619
01:06:15,346 --> 01:06:18,725
Roddy was‐‐like me,
was a real strong family man.
1620
01:06:18,850 --> 01:06:21,519
You know, you‐‐
you commiserate together,
1621
01:06:21,644 --> 01:06:23,813
and you're missing your kids'
birthday parties
1622
01:06:23,897 --> 01:06:25,565
and you miss Halloween
1623
01:06:25,690 --> 01:06:27,859
and you miss all these little
special days all the time.
1624
01:06:27,942 --> 01:06:29,486
You see pictures,
1625
01:06:29,611 --> 01:06:31,779
the heartbreak at home
of being gone all the time.
1626
01:06:31,863 --> 01:06:34,741
You know, it's just this
very tough part of your life.
1627
01:06:34,866 --> 01:06:39,496
‐ When Roddy would come home
and have to be Dad,
1628
01:06:39,579 --> 01:06:42,290
he was always fun.
1629
01:06:42,373 --> 01:06:44,000
[kids chattering excitedly]
1630
01:06:44,083 --> 01:06:47,003
He would spoil them rotten.
1631
01:06:48,379 --> 01:06:50,256
He would pull them
out of school,
1632
01:06:50,340 --> 01:06:52,383
didn't matter
what was going on.
1633
01:06:53,468 --> 01:06:55,136
[girls screaming]
1634
01:06:55,220 --> 01:06:59,724
Christmas, he was always home,
and always lots of presents.
1635
01:07:01,059 --> 01:07:03,686
‐ Hey, you!
‐ A lot of cuddle time.
1636
01:07:03,770 --> 01:07:08,316
He was trying very hard
to create what he didn't have.
1637
01:07:08,441 --> 01:07:12,278
‐ He would come home,
and he would be so exhausted,
1638
01:07:12,362 --> 01:07:14,155
you know,
while trying to see us.
1639
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,366
And then he would want
to have fun
1640
01:07:16,491 --> 01:07:18,493
or just do something
as a family.
1641
01:07:18,618 --> 01:07:21,204
And then immediately, like,
as soon as we were having fun,
1642
01:07:21,329 --> 01:07:24,332
you could see him
getting antsy about work.
1643
01:07:24,415 --> 01:07:26,167
You could see it start to tick
like a clock,
1644
01:07:26,292 --> 01:07:27,794
going faster and faster.
1645
01:07:27,877 --> 01:07:29,420
And I think he missed it.
1646
01:07:29,504 --> 01:07:31,339
You know, he missed us
when he was gone,
1647
01:07:31,464 --> 01:07:34,300
and he missed the action
when he was home.
1648
01:07:34,425 --> 01:07:36,719
‐ He was like a runaway
as a kid growing up
1649
01:07:36,803 --> 01:07:40,807
and spent a lot of time on the
road in his own mind‐set.
1650
01:07:40,848 --> 01:07:43,268
Like, Roddy against the world.
1651
01:07:43,351 --> 01:07:46,145
He was not like
any other wrestler.
1652
01:07:46,229 --> 01:07:48,606
He was in his own world.
1653
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:51,609
I think that world
also meant going away.
1654
01:07:51,693 --> 01:07:56,114
‐ I'm gonna get 30 minutes
with my dad this month.
1655
01:07:56,197 --> 01:07:58,157
I just want to hug him,
cuddle with him,
1656
01:07:58,241 --> 01:08:00,702
kiss him, and do whatever
I can in that time,
1657
01:08:00,827 --> 01:08:01,953
because I literally get him
1658
01:08:02,036 --> 01:08:03,496
on his transfer
layover flight.
1659
01:08:03,580 --> 01:08:05,832
He wasn't an NFL player
that had a season.
1660
01:08:05,873 --> 01:08:07,083
He went 365.
1661
01:08:07,208 --> 01:08:08,501
‐ [plays note]
‐ There you go.
1662
01:08:08,626 --> 01:08:10,962
‐ They never liked
seeing him go,
1663
01:08:11,045 --> 01:08:12,797
everyone,
including myself.
1664
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,799
‐ If you could wish for
anything in the whole world,
1665
01:08:14,841 --> 01:08:16,259
what would you wish for?
1666
01:08:16,342 --> 01:08:20,138
‐ For my family to be together
all the time.
1667
01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:28,229
You know, it's hard not
to get sad
1668
01:08:28,313 --> 01:08:30,732
when he's going out the door,
but...
1669
01:08:30,857 --> 01:08:32,233
Sorry.
[clears throat]
1670
01:08:33,526 --> 01:08:34,652
[exhales]
1671
01:08:34,736 --> 01:08:38,156
♪ ♪
1672
01:08:38,281 --> 01:08:43,661
[whispers]
I need a minute.
1673
01:08:43,786 --> 01:08:44,996
♪ ♪
1674
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:49,250
‐ It's hard to live with a man
that has constant injuries.
1675
01:08:49,375 --> 01:08:54,297
Of course, they varied
from bruises to broken bones.
1676
01:08:54,380 --> 01:08:58,843
He never let on how bad
he was hurting.
1677
01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:02,889
I would beg him to sit still
and recover from an injury.
1678
01:09:03,014 --> 01:09:04,557
Yes, yes, I would.
1679
01:09:04,682 --> 01:09:08,061
But you cannot make Rod
do anything he doesn't want to.
1680
01:09:08,144 --> 01:09:09,479
♪ ♪
1681
01:09:09,562 --> 01:09:12,065
‐ Dad was injured
90% of the time.
1682
01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:13,483
♪ ♪
1683
01:09:13,566 --> 01:09:15,276
So when I say I had
to lace his boots up
1684
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,028
since I was eight years old,
1685
01:09:17,111 --> 01:09:18,905
it's because it physically
hurt him.
1686
01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:23,868
‐ He is sorely
outnumbered here.
1687
01:09:23,993 --> 01:09:27,288
‐ I remember the first time
that I really felt, like,
1688
01:09:27,372 --> 01:09:28,998
wow, he is mortal.
1689
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,168
‐ Hogan gives a whuppin'
on him.
1690
01:09:32,293 --> 01:09:35,213
‐ And truly hating Hogan.
1691
01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:36,506
[crowd cheering]
1692
01:09:36,631 --> 01:09:38,299
‐ They can't hold him down!
1693
01:09:38,383 --> 01:09:41,594
‐ The hardest thing
as a kid, for me,
1694
01:09:41,678 --> 01:09:43,388
was knowing your dad's
injuries.
1695
01:09:43,471 --> 01:09:45,139
‐ And he had just had
a hip replacement.
1696
01:09:45,181 --> 01:09:47,517
‐ Showing that scar there.
You can see it.
1697
01:09:47,642 --> 01:09:49,477
‐ He had a scar
from the hip replacement.
1698
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,105
Hulk Hogan took a chair
and hit my dad.
1699
01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:54,357
‐ Oh, no! No!
1700
01:09:54,482 --> 01:09:55,775
‐ He's not supposed
to be wrestling.
1701
01:09:55,858 --> 01:09:57,985
We were told he might not
even walk again.
1702
01:09:58,069 --> 01:10:00,113
♪ ♪
1703
01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:03,324
‐ I just remember
breaking down in tears
1704
01:10:03,408 --> 01:10:06,035
because, for the first time,
it became real.
1705
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,913
‐ Roddy! Roddy! Roddy!
1706
01:10:09,038 --> 01:10:10,498
‐ So at that point,
1707
01:10:10,623 --> 01:10:13,543
my parents stopped letting us
watch altogether.
1708
01:10:13,668 --> 01:10:16,170
‐ When we had the inside
and the outside view,
1709
01:10:16,295 --> 01:10:18,423
it was really rough.
1710
01:10:18,506 --> 01:10:20,883
‐ I mean, he was just
in constant pain
1711
01:10:21,008 --> 01:10:23,261
and yet could work through it.
1712
01:10:23,344 --> 01:10:27,640
As he got older,
he had a shoulder injury,
1713
01:10:27,724 --> 01:10:30,476
and his arm would just hang,
like, a couple inches lower
1714
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,645
than the other arm,
and he was probably like that
1715
01:10:32,729 --> 01:10:33,730
for a year or two.
1716
01:10:33,855 --> 01:10:35,148
It turned out his, like‐‐
1717
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:37,817
they pulled out something
like five or six shattered bones
1718
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:40,361
that were just, like,
floating around his shoulder.
1719
01:10:40,486 --> 01:10:43,281
‐ It was kind of fascinating
1720
01:10:43,364 --> 01:10:46,117
for me to see him
behind the scenes
1721
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,035
having a hard time
getting out of bed,
1722
01:10:48,161 --> 01:10:49,412
having a hard time walking,
1723
01:10:49,495 --> 01:10:52,206
and two hours later,
he's in the ring
1724
01:10:52,331 --> 01:10:54,250
and you'd never know
anything was wrong
1725
01:10:54,375 --> 01:10:55,460
because he loved it.
1726
01:10:55,585 --> 01:10:57,462
He loved putting on a show.
1727
01:10:57,545 --> 01:11:01,799
It really was just two
completely different lives.
1728
01:11:01,841 --> 01:11:04,969
♪ ♪
1729
01:11:05,052 --> 01:11:09,223
‐ During the time of 2003
when Dad talked to HBO,
1730
01:11:09,348 --> 01:11:11,017
it was a dark time for Dad
1731
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,977
in front of the camera
and at home.
1732
01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:14,979
‐ Everybody's dead.
1733
01:11:15,104 --> 01:11:17,440
They're all dying early,
1734
01:11:17,523 --> 01:11:20,651
and nobody cares about it.
1735
01:11:20,693 --> 01:11:23,404
‐ What the hell is he doing?
1736
01:11:23,529 --> 01:11:27,366
And what the hell is he saying?
It's like, really?
1737
01:11:27,492 --> 01:11:31,496
‐ They take them
and they screw them up so much
1738
01:11:31,579 --> 01:11:35,583
and they being the rash
of promoters
1739
01:11:35,708 --> 01:11:37,585
that I've gone through
in the 33 years.
1740
01:11:37,668 --> 01:11:39,462
‐ And a lot of times
you lash out, you know,
1741
01:11:39,545 --> 01:11:42,131
and that's what Roddy was
doing was lashing out.
1742
01:11:42,215 --> 01:11:43,633
♪ ♪
1743
01:11:43,716 --> 01:11:47,845
‐ A lot of his friends
had started passing away,
1744
01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:51,015
and it makes you worry
and it makes you concerned,
1745
01:11:51,098 --> 01:11:54,477
and so that's when he started
being vocal about it.
1746
01:11:54,602 --> 01:11:56,562
‐ I know he blamed the company
1747
01:11:56,687 --> 01:11:58,731
for just about everything
in the interviews,
1748
01:11:58,856 --> 01:12:02,276
but at that time,
he had lost so much.
1749
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,070
He wasn't wrestling.
He was hurt.
1750
01:12:04,195 --> 01:12:06,781
He was just trying
to stand up for his buddies.
1751
01:12:06,864 --> 01:12:09,575
But later on,
towards the end,
1752
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:11,160
Dad had talked to me and,
you know, he said,
1753
01:12:11,285 --> 01:12:14,413
"It's the business we get into.
We know what it is, you know.
1754
01:12:14,539 --> 01:12:16,207
"We don't get in there
thinking we're gonna live
1755
01:12:16,332 --> 01:12:17,834
to 70, 80 years old."
1756
01:12:17,875 --> 01:12:22,421
‐ What would you
have me do at 49 when,
1757
01:12:22,505 --> 01:12:25,049
like, my pension plan,
I can't take out until I'm 65.
1758
01:12:25,132 --> 01:12:28,636
I'm not gonna make 65.
Let's just face facts, guys.
1759
01:12:28,761 --> 01:12:31,639
‐ When someone says really
rotten thing about your company,
1760
01:12:31,764 --> 01:12:34,934
you know, you're not gonna
welcome them with open arms.
1761
01:12:35,017 --> 01:12:38,271
You know, you're gonna say,
"Time for us to say good‐bye."
1762
01:12:38,354 --> 01:12:40,398
♪ ♪
1763
01:12:40,481 --> 01:12:43,234
‐ He wasn't expecting
the consequences.
1764
01:12:43,359 --> 01:12:44,652
He lost a contract.
1765
01:12:44,777 --> 01:12:46,153
It was pretty bad
for our family
1766
01:12:46,279 --> 01:12:47,780
as far as, like,
our well‐being goes.
1767
01:12:47,864 --> 01:12:51,701
I think he felt very lost,
very depressed,
1768
01:12:51,784 --> 01:12:54,412
a little bit reckless
with his behavior.
1769
01:12:54,495 --> 01:12:55,496
Obviously,
with the HBO interview,
1770
01:12:55,621 --> 01:12:57,123
that's a good example.
1771
01:12:57,206 --> 01:13:00,084
And, you know, I've talked
about him having demons,
1772
01:13:00,167 --> 01:13:02,545
and I think that this was
sort of like the height
1773
01:13:02,628 --> 01:13:05,172
of his demons coming out
was this period of his life.
1774
01:13:05,256 --> 01:13:09,635
♪ ♪
1775
01:13:10,469 --> 01:13:12,054
‐ Yeah, nothing's permanent
in this business,
1776
01:13:12,179 --> 01:13:14,348
and as Piper's been fired,
1777
01:13:14,473 --> 01:13:15,516
I've been fired a couple times.
1778
01:13:15,641 --> 01:13:17,184
You know, but things change
1779
01:13:17,310 --> 01:13:20,146
and, you know,
the president or...
1780
01:13:20,271 --> 01:13:22,106
OJ or somebody
will do something
1781
01:13:22,189 --> 01:13:23,983
that takes precedent
over something that we did.
1782
01:13:24,066 --> 01:13:27,028
So I think Vince understands
that he's dealing with
1783
01:13:27,153 --> 01:13:29,822
a bunch of high,
intense personalities.
1784
01:13:29,906 --> 01:13:31,991
But Vince has been
pretty forgiving.
1785
01:13:32,033 --> 01:13:34,577
‐ Whoo! Ladies and gentlemen,
I give you‐‐
1786
01:13:34,702 --> 01:13:39,332
I give you the most
gifted entertainer
1787
01:13:39,415 --> 01:13:43,210
in the history
of professional wrestling:
1788
01:13:43,336 --> 01:13:46,464
my man, the Hot Rod.
1789
01:13:46,547 --> 01:13:49,717
[playing bagpipe music]
1790
01:13:49,842 --> 01:13:51,552
‐ I think it was huge for him,
1791
01:13:51,677 --> 01:13:53,346
you know, 'cause his whole
life was wrestling.
1792
01:13:53,429 --> 01:13:56,474
Even though wrestling
is an exhibition,
1793
01:13:56,557 --> 01:13:58,893
for us,
the Hall of Fame is real.
1794
01:13:59,018 --> 01:14:01,479
[crowd chanting "Roddy"]
1795
01:14:01,604 --> 01:14:03,981
Roddy! Roddy!
Roddy! Roddy!
1796
01:14:04,065 --> 01:14:05,232
♪ ♪
1797
01:14:05,358 --> 01:14:07,193
‐ I want to tell you this.
1798
01:14:09,028 --> 01:14:10,488
I love you s...
1799
01:14:10,613 --> 01:14:11,697
[chuckles]
1800
01:14:11,822 --> 01:14:13,074
[laughter]
1801
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:15,993
I love you so much, man.
1802
01:14:16,077 --> 01:14:19,956
I love you so much,
but I guarantee you this:
1803
01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:24,460
my name is Rowdy Roddy Piper,
and you ain't seen nothing yet.
1804
01:14:34,553 --> 01:14:37,723
[solemn music]
1805
01:14:37,807 --> 01:14:41,435
♪ ♪
1806
01:14:41,519 --> 01:14:43,604
[pen scratching]
1807
01:14:43,688 --> 01:14:45,314
‐ You can find sympathy
in the dictionary
1808
01:14:45,398 --> 01:14:47,733
between [bleep] and suicide.
1809
01:14:47,817 --> 01:14:49,860
♪ ♪
1810
01:14:49,986 --> 01:14:51,529
‐ Roddy was definitely
depressed
1811
01:14:51,654 --> 01:14:55,449
off and on during his life.
1812
01:14:55,533 --> 01:14:58,661
You know, you're either up
100%
1813
01:14:58,744 --> 01:15:00,246
or you're kind of down,
1814
01:15:00,329 --> 01:15:03,207
and it was always hard for him
to find the middle spot.
1815
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:07,545
One of the demons was
that time in his life
1816
01:15:07,670 --> 01:15:11,007
as a teenager when he was
surviving on the street.
1817
01:15:11,132 --> 01:15:12,633
He never let that go.
1818
01:15:12,758 --> 01:15:14,093
‐ I was so young.
1819
01:15:14,176 --> 01:15:16,804
I had to fight
for everything I had.
1820
01:15:16,846 --> 01:15:19,724
♪ ♪
1821
01:15:19,849 --> 01:15:21,183
Oh, man.
1822
01:15:21,267 --> 01:15:23,436
♪ ♪
1823
01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:25,021
‐ He told me some stuff
about his childhood
1824
01:15:25,146 --> 01:15:26,480
and living on the street.
1825
01:15:26,522 --> 01:15:29,150
He was in a bad spot
and used and abused
1826
01:15:29,191 --> 01:15:32,361
and just a lot of bad stuff
that I had no idea.
1827
01:15:32,486 --> 01:15:33,988
♪ ♪
1828
01:15:34,071 --> 01:15:37,158
‐ Nobody‐‐you know,
nobody feel sorry for me, man.
1829
01:15:37,241 --> 01:15:38,951
‐ You know, he had phoned me
from the road,
1830
01:15:39,035 --> 01:15:41,287
and he'd been in his hotel
room for three days
1831
01:15:41,370 --> 01:15:42,955
with the lights off.
1832
01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:44,999
He was depressed.
There was things on his mind
1833
01:15:45,124 --> 01:15:47,001
that went back
to his childhood.
1834
01:15:47,126 --> 01:15:48,836
♪ ♪
1835
01:15:48,961 --> 01:15:52,048
His mind went to spots
that weren't good for him.
1836
01:15:52,131 --> 01:15:53,841
♪ ♪
1837
01:15:53,924 --> 01:15:57,178
‐ He still had that crumbling
part inside his soul
1838
01:15:57,303 --> 01:15:59,305
that he could never mend.
1839
01:15:59,430 --> 01:16:00,848
He was so depressed at times,
1840
01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:05,019
I'm sure that he did
think of suicide.
1841
01:16:05,144 --> 01:16:06,771
He wouldn't follow through
with it
1842
01:16:06,854 --> 01:16:08,272
because, as he would
be the first to say,
1843
01:16:08,355 --> 01:16:10,900
he's not a coward,
and that's a coward's way out.
1844
01:16:11,025 --> 01:16:16,322
But he was so sad at times
inside himself
1845
01:16:16,405 --> 01:16:19,075
that I know that he did
think that occasionally,
1846
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,743
and that's heartbreaking.
1847
01:16:28,501 --> 01:16:29,835
‐ At 242 pounds,
1848
01:16:29,919 --> 01:16:33,380
the Hot Rod,
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1849
01:16:33,464 --> 01:16:36,634
[playing jaunty piano music]
1850
01:16:36,717 --> 01:16:39,386
‐ Hey, buddy!
‐ How you doing, pal?
1851
01:16:39,470 --> 01:16:41,347
Yeah. Nice.
‐ Good to see you!
1852
01:16:41,472 --> 01:16:42,848
‐ Good to see you too.
Been in jail.
1853
01:16:42,973 --> 01:16:44,892
‐ As he started
to wind down wrestling,
1854
01:16:45,017 --> 01:16:46,894
he really started to have fun
1855
01:16:46,977 --> 01:16:50,815
going into acting
as well as comedy.
1856
01:16:56,362 --> 01:16:57,822
[laughter]
1857
01:16:57,905 --> 01:16:59,824
‐ In a weird way,
I think it was a nice,
1858
01:16:59,907 --> 01:17:02,034
therapeutic thing
that he realized
1859
01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:03,828
that just because he couldn't
wrestle anymore
1860
01:17:03,911 --> 01:17:05,371
didn't mean
that he couldn't perform.
1861
01:17:11,085 --> 01:17:12,002
[laughter]
1862
01:17:15,756 --> 01:17:17,049
‐ He enjoyed telling
these stories,
1863
01:17:17,174 --> 01:17:18,884
he enjoyed connecting
with his fans,
1864
01:17:19,009 --> 01:17:21,220
and that was something that
he was very passionate about.
1865
01:17:21,303 --> 01:17:24,890
‐ May all your dreams
come true. God bless you.
1866
01:17:25,015 --> 01:17:26,600
[applause]
‐ How cool is that?
1867
01:17:26,684 --> 01:17:29,270
Rowdy Roddy Piper!
1868
01:17:29,353 --> 01:17:31,981
January of 2009,
1869
01:17:32,064 --> 01:17:34,483
his manager reached out
and said,
1870
01:17:34,525 --> 01:17:36,193
"Would you have any interest
1871
01:17:36,318 --> 01:17:40,406
in helping Roddy cultivate
a stand‐up comedy act?"
1872
01:17:40,531 --> 01:17:43,325
And I was like, "Absolutely."
1873
01:17:43,409 --> 01:17:44,743
Because here's the thing:
1874
01:17:44,869 --> 01:17:46,704
when you watch pro wrestling
with brothers,
1875
01:17:46,829 --> 01:17:48,372
that wasn't even a TV show.
1876
01:17:48,497 --> 01:17:51,208
That was an instruction guide
on how to hurt each other.
1877
01:17:51,292 --> 01:17:52,960
That's all it was.
1878
01:17:53,043 --> 01:17:57,464
I grew up the middle of three
boys in suburban Philadelphia
1879
01:17:57,590 --> 01:18:01,969
in really the Golden Age of
modern professional wrestling.
1880
01:18:02,052 --> 01:18:03,304
♪ ♪
1881
01:18:03,387 --> 01:18:07,141
I remember being a kid
when he showed up.
1882
01:18:07,266 --> 01:18:08,767
He was the worst.
1883
01:18:08,851 --> 01:18:10,227
[laughs]
Like, I remember being
1884
01:18:10,352 --> 01:18:12,813
a chubby 11‐year‐old kid
buying a T‐shirt that said,
1885
01:18:12,897 --> 01:18:14,565
"I hate Rowdy Roddy Piper."
1886
01:18:14,648 --> 01:18:19,486
Like, he could get you
to yell at a television set.
1887
01:18:19,570 --> 01:18:21,447
♪ ♪
1888
01:18:21,530 --> 01:18:24,658
And meeting Roddy
was like meeting somebody
1889
01:18:24,783 --> 01:18:26,160
out of a comic book.
1890
01:18:26,285 --> 01:18:28,913
That began a really cool
relationship
1891
01:18:28,996 --> 01:18:30,623
where I would just
listen to stories
1892
01:18:30,706 --> 01:18:35,836
and try to help him craft that
into some sort of cohesive act.
1893
01:18:42,176 --> 01:18:47,181
‐ As a comedian, I have a
unbelievable amount of respect
1894
01:18:47,264 --> 01:18:50,559
for somebody that can connect
with audiences
1895
01:18:50,684 --> 01:18:51,685
on such a deep level.
1896
01:18:51,810 --> 01:18:54,521
That was his mutant ability.
1897
01:18:54,605 --> 01:18:56,482
‐ Like that power walking...
1898
01:18:56,607 --> 01:18:58,692
[laughter]
1899
01:18:58,817 --> 01:19:00,736
‐ I got to go through
Roddy's life with him
1900
01:19:00,861 --> 01:19:02,238
on a comedic journey,
1901
01:19:02,363 --> 01:19:06,951
but hearing his life experience
was just so amazing.
1902
01:19:11,914 --> 01:19:13,707
‐ Roddy's darkness
is one of the things
1903
01:19:13,832 --> 01:19:15,376
that drew him
to stand‐up comedy.
1904
01:19:15,501 --> 01:19:18,462
[playing harmonica]
1905
01:19:19,421 --> 01:19:21,882
You can turn pain into joy,
1906
01:19:22,007 --> 01:19:26,387
and making people laugh
meant a lot to him.
1907
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:31,809
♪ ♪
1908
01:19:31,892 --> 01:19:33,811
‐ He is the WWE
Hall of Famer
1909
01:19:33,852 --> 01:19:37,648
and one of the all‐time greats,
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1910
01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:39,358
‐ When he would
get off the road,
1911
01:19:39,483 --> 01:19:41,860
he would be tired or hurt,
and he'd recover.
1912
01:19:41,986 --> 01:19:45,155
But there was never a time
that he did an interview
1913
01:19:45,281 --> 01:19:47,741
or he got on camera
and he couldn't turn it on.
1914
01:19:47,866 --> 01:19:49,702
‐ What was the question?
[laughs]
1915
01:19:49,785 --> 01:19:51,704
‐ This time was different.
1916
01:19:51,829 --> 01:19:53,455
He had this interview.
1917
01:19:53,539 --> 01:19:55,124
And he gets on and he's, like,
1918
01:19:55,207 --> 01:19:57,001
can't put his thoughts
together.
1919
01:19:57,126 --> 01:19:59,795
‐ Nah, but‐‐but what I don't
think is an honor...
1920
01:20:01,297 --> 01:20:03,799
Uh...
Let me‐‐let me try to do this.
1921
01:20:03,882 --> 01:20:05,968
‐ It's one of those things
that, as a family member,
1922
01:20:06,010 --> 01:20:07,720
when you know someone close
and you're like,
1923
01:20:07,845 --> 01:20:09,013
"They're being odd."
1924
01:20:09,138 --> 01:20:10,973
‐ I went into a‐‐
excuse me.
1925
01:20:11,056 --> 01:20:14,685
I went into a Mexican...
uh, restaurant
1926
01:20:14,768 --> 01:20:17,521
with my youngest daughter,
who's, uh...
1927
01:20:17,646 --> 01:20:20,232
‐ It was heartbreaking
1928
01:20:20,357 --> 01:20:22,735
because that was not
the man I knew.
1929
01:20:22,818 --> 01:20:24,945
There was obvious problem
he was having.
1930
01:20:25,029 --> 01:20:27,114
‐ I just think that...
1931
01:20:27,197 --> 01:20:31,201
‐ It was like the moment the
world knew something was wrong.
1932
01:20:31,327 --> 01:20:33,329
♪ ♪
1933
01:20:33,370 --> 01:20:37,166
And a few days later,
Roddy was home.
1934
01:20:37,291 --> 01:20:39,043
He was very tired that night.
1935
01:20:39,168 --> 01:20:40,961
We were gonna go see
his doctor the next day.
1936
01:20:41,086 --> 01:20:43,255
We decided to do that.
1937
01:20:43,339 --> 01:20:44,965
And we went to bed
1938
01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:47,343
and he passed away
in his sleep.
1939
01:20:47,426 --> 01:20:48,677
♪ ♪
1940
01:20:48,802 --> 01:20:50,429
‐ His heart failed.
1941
01:20:50,512 --> 01:20:53,307
As far as the specifics
as to what was causing it,
1942
01:20:53,390 --> 01:20:57,144
it probably was a combination
of his entire life.
1943
01:20:57,186 --> 01:20:58,604
♪ ♪
1944
01:20:58,687 --> 01:21:02,816
‐ I am so grateful
that he was home because,
1945
01:21:02,900 --> 01:21:05,027
even at that age,
1946
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:09,156
so many days of the year,
he was gone away from home,
1947
01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:10,949
and he could have been alone.
1948
01:21:11,033 --> 01:21:13,077
Sorry.
[clears throat]
1949
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,497
And I'm just very grateful
that he was home with me
1950
01:21:16,622 --> 01:21:17,831
when he passed.
1951
01:21:17,956 --> 01:21:22,294
♪ ♪
1952
01:21:22,378 --> 01:21:25,756
‐ You know, the news came
that he passed away, you know.
1953
01:21:25,839 --> 01:21:28,675
I felt like I got shot in the
chest with a cannon, you know.
1954
01:21:28,801 --> 01:21:33,013
And it kind of like knocked me
off track for a couple days,
1955
01:21:33,138 --> 01:21:36,058
and now all of a sudden,
I get this voice message.
1956
01:21:36,141 --> 01:21:37,518
It was really weird
because either
1957
01:21:37,643 --> 01:21:39,061
my phone was messed up,
1958
01:21:39,186 --> 01:21:41,814
sometimes you'll get
a text message at that night
1959
01:21:41,897 --> 01:21:43,315
when it was sent to you
in the morning.
1960
01:21:53,075 --> 01:21:54,701
‐ That really spooked me out.
1961
01:21:54,827 --> 01:21:57,496
Like, hmm, alien thing, you
know, like "Close Encounters."
1962
01:21:57,579 --> 01:22:00,999
It was just crazy to get
a voice message from somebody
1963
01:22:01,125 --> 01:22:03,335
after they passed away,
and especially for him to say,
1964
01:22:03,419 --> 01:22:05,462
"I'm loving you and walking
with Jesus, my brother.
1965
01:22:05,587 --> 01:22:07,464
Just loving you
and walking with Jesus."
1966
01:22:07,548 --> 01:22:09,633
I was like, "Wow."
1967
01:22:09,758 --> 01:22:11,593
Totally screwed me up.
1968
01:22:14,054 --> 01:22:17,307
[wistful music]
1969
01:22:17,391 --> 01:22:23,647
♪ ♪
1970
01:22:23,689 --> 01:22:25,149
‐ All right, guys.
1971
01:22:27,818 --> 01:22:30,946
[overlapping chatter]
1972
01:22:32,489 --> 01:22:33,449
‐ It is.
1973
01:22:43,375 --> 01:22:45,169
‐ Hey, nice to see you again.
How are you?
1974
01:22:45,294 --> 01:22:47,087
‐ So good to see you.
Oh, my God.
1975
01:22:47,171 --> 01:22:48,797
When I first started doing MMA,
1976
01:22:48,881 --> 01:22:50,466
I was trying to think
of a fight name,
1977
01:22:50,549 --> 01:22:52,468
and, of course, the first thing
that everybody thought of
1978
01:22:52,509 --> 01:22:54,136
was like, "What do you think
as a fight name?"
1979
01:22:54,178 --> 01:22:55,554
"Well, Rowdy.
Rowdy Ronda Rousey."
1980
01:22:55,679 --> 01:22:56,972
Like, I know, but it's like
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
1981
01:22:57,097 --> 01:22:58,682
And he has that.
I don't want to steal it
1982
01:22:58,807 --> 01:23:03,562
until I happened to see
the original rowdy one
1983
01:23:03,687 --> 01:23:06,023
and got his blessing
1984
01:23:06,148 --> 01:23:07,483
and, yeah, he was very
sweet about it.
1985
01:23:07,566 --> 01:23:09,651
He was like, "Yeah, sure, kid.
No problem.
1986
01:23:09,735 --> 01:23:11,612
Better do the name proud."
Or something like that.
1987
01:23:11,695 --> 01:23:13,155
I don't know.
[laughs]
1988
01:23:13,238 --> 01:23:14,907
‐ And then Kitty, my mom.
‐ Hi.
1989
01:23:14,990 --> 01:23:22,039
♪ ♪
1990
01:23:35,594 --> 01:23:36,803
No one can do it better.
1991
01:23:36,887 --> 01:23:38,013
‐ [laughs]
Thank you so much.
1992
01:23:38,138 --> 01:23:39,264
Thank you so, so much.
1993
01:23:39,348 --> 01:23:42,768
‐ He was a loner and a wolf,
1994
01:23:42,851 --> 01:23:47,022
and he was often
misunderstood.
1995
01:23:48,232 --> 01:23:50,901
‐ I was so wild,
1996
01:23:51,026 --> 01:23:53,237
scary wild.
1997
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,949
‐ But he was always 100%
in your face.
1998
01:23:57,032 --> 01:24:01,245
‐ You do not throw rocks at
a man who's got a machine gun!
1999
01:24:01,328 --> 01:24:04,289
‐ This is what you get.
I am who I am.
2000
01:24:04,373 --> 01:24:07,042
‐ What you got here
is all man.
2001
01:24:07,125 --> 01:24:09,294
‐ He didn't change
for anybody.
2002
01:24:09,419 --> 01:24:12,214
‐ We are the most popular
wrestlers in the entire world.
2003
01:24:12,339 --> 01:24:15,300
‐ I haven't found anyone
that has what Roddy had.
2004
01:24:16,677 --> 01:24:18,053
Loved life.
2005
01:24:18,178 --> 01:24:19,471
Lived it to its max.
2006
01:24:19,596 --> 01:24:20,764
‐ Ya‐ha!
2007
01:24:20,847 --> 01:24:24,059
‐ He came in spitting fire
and crapping thunder.
2008
01:24:24,935 --> 01:24:26,979
‐ I'm not afraid
of nobody‐‐
2009
01:24:27,062 --> 01:24:29,106
♪ ♪
2010
01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:30,816
‐ I am the legend killer.
2011
01:24:30,857 --> 01:24:33,402
‐ He started with so little
and ended with so much
2012
01:24:33,485 --> 01:24:36,572
and had every hardship
thrown at him along the way.
2013
01:24:36,697 --> 01:24:38,156
That's my dad's legacy.
2014
01:24:38,282 --> 01:24:40,158
I hope it is one
that gives people strength.
2015
01:24:40,284 --> 01:24:43,996
‐ I still hear new stories
about him all the time,
2016
01:24:44,121 --> 01:24:47,165
and I realize how lucky I am
to have a father
2017
01:24:47,291 --> 01:24:50,460
that has impacted
so many people in the world.
2018
01:24:50,544 --> 01:24:53,255
♪ ♪
2019
01:24:53,338 --> 01:24:55,716
‐ Best part of my job:
2020
01:24:55,841 --> 01:24:59,845
when you come with your daddy
and your mommy,
2021
01:24:59,970 --> 01:25:01,221
and you're all excited and...
2022
01:25:04,182 --> 01:25:08,103
We can put a smile
on a little boy's face.
2023
01:25:10,022 --> 01:25:11,315
That's the greatest reward
2024
01:25:11,398 --> 01:25:13,358
a guy can ever have
in his life.
2025
01:25:14,776 --> 01:25:16,486
Thank you.
2026
01:25:16,570 --> 01:25:17,863
I love you too.
2027
01:25:17,988 --> 01:25:22,492
♪ ♪
2028
01:25:22,618 --> 01:25:24,661
‐ I have come here
2029
01:25:24,786 --> 01:25:26,204
to chew bubble gum.
2030
01:25:26,330 --> 01:25:30,208
‐ I have come here to chew
bubble gum and kick butt.
2031
01:25:30,292 --> 01:25:32,544
‐ And I'm all
out of bubble gum.
2032
01:25:32,669 --> 01:25:34,421
‐ And I'm all out
of bubble gum.
2033
01:25:34,504 --> 01:25:36,840
‐ Just when they think
they have the answers...
2034
01:25:36,923 --> 01:25:39,635
‐ Just when they think they
have the answers...
2035
01:25:39,718 --> 01:25:41,303
‐ I change the questions.
2036
01:25:41,386 --> 01:25:43,180
‐ I change
the questions.
2037
01:25:43,305 --> 01:25:45,682
‐ You do not throw rocks...
2038
01:25:45,807 --> 01:25:47,976
‐ You do not throw rocks
2039
01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:51,271
at a man with a machine gun,
brother.